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It's presented by our sponsor, Interactive Brokers. 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm. 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: we're following today. 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: We begin with the high stakes meeting between Presidents Joe 16 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: Biden and she Jinping. They met for more than four 17 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: hours on the sidelines of the APEX summit in San Francisco. 18 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: President Biden called his discussions with China's leader some of 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: the most productive he's ever had. 20 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: I've been meeting with President Sheeshu's both us for vice 21 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: president over ten years ago. Our meetings have always been 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 4: canda stradeforward. We haven't always agreed, but they've been straightforward, 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: and today build on the groundwork related over the past 24 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 4: several months of high level diplomacy between our teams, We've 25 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 4: made some important progress, I believe. 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: And President Biden's words were echoed by President she. 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 5: China is ready to be a partner and friend of 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 5: the United States. The fundamental princippos that we follow in 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 5: handling China US relations are mutual respect, peaceful co existence, 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 5: and wing wing corporation. 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: China's president spoke there through an interpreter, but after the gathering, 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: President Biden was asked whether he still considers China's leader 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: a dictator. 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 6: Look, he is. 35 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: I mean he's a dictator in the sense that he 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 4: is a guy who runs the country. That is collin 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: Cocu based on formagart totally different than ours. 38 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: And after President Biden's remark, China's Foreign ministry called the 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: statement extremely incorrect and irresponsible political manipulation. 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: Well Nathan asked for the actual meeting, Both Biden and 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: Shi jinping Is say they reached a number of agreements. 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's ed Baxter has that part of the story. 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 6: As well as fentanyl. High on President Biden's list is 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 6: opening communication between the country's militaries. 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: We're reassuming military to military contact direct contacts. As a 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 4: lot of you press know follow this that's been cut 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: off and it's been worse, and that's how accidents happened. 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 6: Biden also saying the two agreed on finding ways to 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 6: control ai Biden also says he was assured that China 50 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 6: has no plan to invade Taiwan. Now. She did say 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 6: that he told Biden that the US should not have 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 6: plans to suppress China and also ask for sanctions to 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 6: be removed. In San Francisco, I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Radio. 54 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 7: And thank you. 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: Some of Wall Street's elite attended dinner with Si Jinping. 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: Black Rocks Larry Fink and Stephen Schwartzman of Blackstone were 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: among the top executives seated at the Chinese leader's table, 58 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: according to a program seen by Bloomberg News. Other big 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: names and attendance were Apple's Tim Cook, Bridgewater associates Ray Dalio, 60 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: and Pesla says Elon Musk also met with President she yesterday. 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: Well Nathan some major developments out of Washington to avoid 62 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: a government shut down. In a late night vote, the 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 2: Senate overwhelmingly approved the House's short term spending bill. Bloomberg's 64 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Amy Morris reports from Washington. 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 8: President Biden is expected to sign the bill that will 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 8: extend government funding at current levels through two deadlines, one 67 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 8: in mid January, the other in early February, but the 68 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 8: bill did not include aid for Israel nor Ukraine. Senate 69 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 8: Majority leader Chuck Schumer says that will be lawmaker's next 70 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 8: priority after the holiday break. 71 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 9: Both sides genuinely care about approving aid to Israel and 72 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 9: Ukraine and helping innocent civilians in Gaza, so I hope 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 9: we can come to an agreement even if neither side 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 9: gets everything they insist on. 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 8: And now the risk of partial government shutdown moves to 76 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 8: January as House Speaker Johnson faces criticism from within his 77 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 8: own party because he did not include deep spending cuts 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 8: or changes to immigration policies. In Washington, Amy Morris Bloomberg. 79 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Radio, Thank you. We now turned to the latest developments 80 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: in the war in the Middle East. The Israeli military 81 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: says it found a Hamas command center, weapons and technological 82 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: assets at the Alshifa Hospital in Gaza City. Middle Eastern countries, 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: including Jordan and Turkey, have condemned the raid. Israeli Prime 84 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, speaking through an interpreter says he makes 85 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: no apologies for sending troops in. 86 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: But we were told that we would not reach the 87 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: outskirts of Gaza city. We arrived. We were told that 88 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: we won't end to Shifa, but we entered, and in 89 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: this spirit we say simple thing. There is no place 90 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: in Gaza that we will not reach. 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Natanya, whose comments come as The Washington Post 92 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: reports discussions are underway on a potential deal that would 93 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: see Hamas free fifty women and children hostages in exchange 94 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: for an extended pose and fighting, and the release of 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: some Palestinians held in Israeli prisons. 96 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, we turned to the markets now, and shares 97 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: of Cisco plunging, the drop coming after it gave a 98 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: disappointing forecast. We get more from Bloomberg's Doug Prisner. 99 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 7: CEO Chuck Robbins, who's trying to rea doue Cisco's dependency 100 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 7: on one time sales of equipment by pushing deeper into 101 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 7: software and services such as security. But the transition isn't 102 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 7: complete enough to cushion Cisco from smaller corporate budgets, and 103 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 7: the company is now projecting the weak environment. Will Linger 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 7: because customers are taking a break from new orders to 105 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 7: installed gear they've already received. In New York, I'm Doug Prisner, 106 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 7: Bloomberg Radio. 107 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: All right, Doug. 108 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: Thanks, and Cisco's shares are down nearly eleven percent in 109 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: the pre market. Earnings continue this morning, with the nation's 110 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: biggest retailer reporting. Get a preview of that from Bloomberg's 111 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: Tom Busby. 112 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 10: Walmart's expected to report that sales growth slow to four 113 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 10: percent last quarter. That's less than half the pace from 114 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 10: just a year ago as consumers pulled back on their 115 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 10: discretionary spending, but sales of food and healthcare products should 116 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 10: be resilient and outpaced demand for that general merchandise adjusted 117 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 10: ernis per share estimated to be a dollar fifty two 118 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 10: total revenue of one hundred and fifty nine point one 119 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 10: three billion dollars. Tom Buzby, Bloomberg Radio. 120 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: All right, Tom, Thanks. Well. In Europe, shares a Berber 121 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: down almost nine percent. The UK luxury retailer is warning 122 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: this year's revenue target maybe out of reach after sales 123 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: barely grew in the most recent quarter. 124 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: And Karen, we have a big deal for chocolate lovers 125 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: this morning. US Candy company Mars, has agreed to buy 126 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: the UK's Hotel Chacalott Group for more than six hundred 127 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: and sixty million dollars. That price tag represents one hundred 128 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: and seventy percent premium to Hotel Chachalot's closing price yesterday. 129 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: All right, Nathan, thanks, it's time now for a look 130 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: at some of the other stories making news around the world. 131 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: For that, we're joined by. 132 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Amy Morris. Amy, Good morning, Good. 133 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: Morning, Karen. 134 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 11: US. 135 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 8: Capitol police officers say one person was arrested following protests 136 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 8: outside Democratic National Convention headquarters in Washington, DC as part 137 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 8: of a pro Palestinian rally. Protesters got into a shoving 138 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 8: match with Capitol police officers that arrest being made for assault. 139 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 8: Six Capital officers also suffered minor injuries. Pepper spray was 140 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 8: used on protesters and DNC members were evacuated. Billionaire Elon 141 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 8: Musk endorsed an anti Semitic post on x the social 142 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 8: media site that he owns, that attacked members of the 143 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 8: Jewish community for pushing dialectical hatred against white people. Musk 144 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 8: said in his reply to the post, quote you have 145 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 8: said the actual truth. Musk has repeatedly been criticized for 146 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 8: promoting content attacking Jewish people at a time of rising 147 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 8: anti semitism. After a year of strikes in Hollywood and 148 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 8: the auto industry, now it's Starbucks turn. The union representing 149 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 8: thousands of Starbucks workers is staging a one day walk 150 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 8: out today, coinciding with the Red Cup Day. It's one 151 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 8: of the coffee chain's busiest days of the year. Daisy 152 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 8: feederspiel Bayer is a supervisor in Seattle. 153 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 11: I really wish that I could be in there serving 154 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 11: you coffee. I do, but with the drastic understaffing and 155 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 11: the toll that that takes on our barista's Unfortunately, we 156 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 11: have to push for better and we aren't getting that 157 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 11: from Starbucks right now. 158 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 8: Starbucks Workers United represents nine thousand employees at three hundred 159 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 8: and sixty stores. They want better wages, benefits, and the 160 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 8: right to bargain. The Thanksgiving travel rush is about to begin. 161 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 8: Bloomberg's Nancy Lions with the latest The. 162 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 12: Transportation Security Administration says the official travel window lasts twelve days, 163 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 12: beginning Friday and running through to the Tuesday after Thanksgiving. 164 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 12: During that time, the TSA expects to screen twenty eight 165 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 12: million passengers. John Bush is Federal Security Director for the TSA. 166 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 13: The best tip we can offer is to ask everyone 167 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 13: to arrive early for your flights. The recommendation is always 168 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 13: two hours before domestic flight three hours before an international flight, 169 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 13: and that's going to be even more important this coming 170 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 13: holiday weekend. 171 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,479 Speaker 12: Bush says they do have the staffing and the technology 172 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 12: in place to ensure that everything runs smoothly. In Washington. 173 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 12: Nancy lyons Bloomberg Radio. 174 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 8: Global news twenty four hours a day and whenever you 175 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 8: want it with Blueberg News Now, I maybe Morrison, this 176 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 8: is Bloomberg Karen Amy. 177 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: Thank you well. We do bring you news throughout the 178 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: day right here on Bloomberg Radio. But now, as Amy said, 179 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: you can get the latest news on demand whenever you 180 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: want it. Subscribe to Bloomberg News Now to get the 181 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: latest headlines at the click of a button. Get informed 182 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: on your schedule. You can listen and subscribe to Bloomberg 183 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: News Now on the Bloomberg Business app, Bloomberg dot Com 184 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: plus apples, Spotify, and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 185 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update. Here's John stash Hour. 186 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 14: John Daren should be a good Thursday night game to 187 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 14: kick off Week eleven in the NFL. It's an AFC 188 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 14: North battle between the Bengals and Ravens in Baltimore. Both 189 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 14: teams at four game winning streaks come to an end 190 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 14: this past Sunday, losing right at the end of their game. 191 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 14: Cincinnati beaten by Houston, and the Ravens blew a two 192 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 14: touchdown lead and lost to Cleveland. The Baltimore quarterback is 193 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 14: Lamar Jackson. 194 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 15: Every game is a musk win for us, you know, 195 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 15: not just cousin is in a division game, but we 196 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 15: we definitely, I believe our team is definitely a lot 197 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 15: hungrier just for more happened Sunday in a division loss 198 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 15: in the closed game. We definitely hungry as well. 199 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 14: So the Clinton Browns had that big win in Baltimore, 200 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 14: led by their quarterback Deshaun Watson. He was fourteen to 201 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 14: fourteen of the second half. He battled an ankle injury, 202 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 14: and yesterday it was learned that his season is over 203 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 14: because of a fractured shoulder. He needs surgery. He's had 204 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 14: shoulder problems before. Justin Fields has been out three games 205 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 14: with the thumb injury in Chicago. He's expected to return 206 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 14: on Sunday NBA in Philadelphia, Battle in the East and 207 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 14: the Celtics beat the Sixers one seventeen to one oh seven. 208 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 14: Facing Tatum led the way twenty nine points, eight rebound, 209 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 14: six assists. The Celtics are nine and two. The Sixers 210 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 14: were eight and one. They've now lost their last two. 211 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 14: Milwaukee beat Toronto for the new Buck Damian Lillard thirty 212 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 14: seven points thirteen assists. The Wizard struggles continue a home 213 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 14: loss to Dallas one thirty to one seventeen. The MAVs 214 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 14: are nine and three. The Wizards are two and none. 215 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 14: The Knicks but one by two in Atlanta. John stash 216 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 14: That were Bloomberg Sports. 217 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 16: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 218 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 16: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Syrias Exam, the Bloomberg 219 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 16: Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 220 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. We've 221 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: made some important progress. We heard those words from President 222 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: Biden after his first meeting in more than a year 223 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: with the leader of the People's Republic of China, Shi Jinping. 224 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: President says two leaders are restoring military to military communications 225 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: and they plan to keep talking at the highest levels in. 226 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 4: The United States, will continue to compete vigorously at the PRC, 227 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: but will manage that competition responsibly so doesn't veer into 228 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: conflict for accidental conflict. 229 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: That was President Biden after his more than four hours 230 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: sit down with China's leader on the sidelines of the 231 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: APEX summit in San Francisco, and joining us with more 232 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: from Singapore is Berg News Managing editor Derek Wallbank. Derek, 233 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: it's good to have you back with us this morning. 234 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: Going into these talks, the White House said just talking 235 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: would be a deliverable. What kind of deliverables can we 236 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: say We're gleaned from this gathering between Presidents s Biden 237 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: and shape Well. 238 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 17: Nathan, they certainly talked. 239 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: You know. 240 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 16: Yeah. 241 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 17: It's funny because in that relationship here, we've seen ebbs 242 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 17: and flows between real, real static, real problems, and and 243 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 17: times when it has seemed maybe a little bit sunnier, 244 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 17: maybe a little bit more placid. I borrow an observation 245 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 17: that Singapore's Foreign minister made last week at the Bloomberg 246 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 17: New Economy Forum here in Singapore, which was that you 247 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 17: shouldn't on US China relations confuse weather with climate. Things 248 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 17: might look a little bit more peaceful right now, certainly 249 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 17: in the face of this meeting that seemed to go 250 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 17: mostly okay, But the for all climate of the US 251 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 17: China relationship is still one with a lot of tension points. 252 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 17: There were not major fundamental issues resolved here. This is 253 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 17: not like we have a giant breakthrough on Taiwan, for example. 254 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 17: So so whether a little bit nicer climate overall still 255 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 17: very much progressing in the in the in the ways 256 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 17: that it was. 257 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Sticking with the weather analogy, I guess maybe one dark 258 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: cloud in that otherwise sunny gathering could be that question 259 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: that the President received from a reporter when asked whether 260 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: he still considers China's leader a dictator, and he basically said. 261 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 17: Yes, he did, he said, he said emphatically yes. And 262 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 17: and look, this is one of those things where China 263 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 17: does take offense to this. You know, they don't like 264 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 17: the term, they don't like it being used about them. 265 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 17: But at the same point, the thing I think that 266 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 17: bears watching is whether or not China blow it up 267 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 17: into a whole big thing and says, right, well, this 268 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 17: is some offense and we want to change the tenor 269 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 17: of our leader to leader engagement or the relationship more broadly, 270 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 17: it doesn't initially seem like that is happening. Remember Joe 271 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 17: Biden said this before, and we're still on a path 272 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 17: where they've gone to me, she went to the United States. 273 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 17: That's actually something that's a big symbol for this meeting. 274 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 17: So I'm not sure that that's necessarily going to derail 275 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 17: everything here. Where I think it's much more likely if 276 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 17: you were looking for risk problems is to look in 277 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 17: the South China Sea, specifically off the coast of the Philippines, 278 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 17: and some of the territorial disputes that are there, some 279 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 17: of the trade disputes that are there. Those are places 280 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 17: that I think are potential fracture points. But look, if 281 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 17: you're sitting there saying are things a little bit better 282 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 17: in the relationship between China and the US than they 283 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 17: were this time yesterday, the answer is yes, they are 284 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 17: a little bit better. You're going to see maybe some 285 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 17: small tangible things including possibly, let me say, you might 286 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 17: see some pandace come back to the US. 287 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: We did hear that mentioned right by the leader of China. 288 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: But when it comes to those small steps in our 289 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: last minute here, Derek, what are some of the broader 290 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: issues that could still lead to some of these overarching 291 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: tensions that we do continue to see between the US 292 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: and China. 293 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 17: Well, I think, you know, on the good side, you've 294 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 17: seen that the US and China are trying to do 295 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 17: a little bit more on reducing fentanyl. On the good side, 296 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 17: you are seeing Biden said they're agreeing to talk a 297 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 17: little bit more military to military, and Biden said that 298 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 17: they had an open line between the two of them. 299 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 17: If one calls the other, they'll pick up the phone. 300 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 17: But I do think on that broad thing, that the 301 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 17: broad issue of trade, the broad issue of of China's 302 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 17: state craft and military ambitions, those are real fracture points, 303 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 17: and those are as I say, structural climactic fracture points, 304 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 17: and that's going to be something that these two countries 305 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 17: are going to have to very carefully manage going forward 306 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 17: to make sure that they don't actually escalate. 307 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg day Break Today, your morning brief on 308 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: the stories making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 309 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed at six am 310 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you 311 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. 312 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 313 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: am Wall Street Time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 314 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to one in Washington, 315 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg one six to one in Boston, and Bloomberg nine 316 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: sixty in San Francisco. 317 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 318 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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