1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Bengals beat the Steelers twenty seven seven team. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: It was less than a month ago we were comparing 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: this year's Steelers to the seven Patriots, wondering that they 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: go undefeated. Now we're wondering will they win a playoff game. 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's dropped three in a row, including last night's shocking 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: loss to the Bengals. If I just said, look at 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: the stats and tell me who won that game, you go, well, 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh did, because Bengals didn't do much, but neither did 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers. This is a Bengal team the Steelers had 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: beaten eleven consecutive times. You got a veteran coach, you 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: got a Hall of Fame quarterback. It's hard to understand 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: what's gone wrong. We can say COVID, we can say 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: injuries on the defensive side of the ball. We can 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: say there is no running game. You're the Pittsburgh Steelers 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: playing the Bengals. Joe Burrow wasn't playing. It was Ryan 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Finley receivers dropping the ball. No running game. But you 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: know what was more alarming, The Steelers got pushed around 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: physically by Cincinnati you don't expect that with the Mike 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: Tomlin team, and the Steelers don't get a break in 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: the final two weeks. They got the Colts and I 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: believe they're underdog against the Colts, and then they got 23 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: the Browns to end the season, so they're gonna go 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: against two playoff teams. They got to rediscover some energy 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: here that they had earlier in the season. We talked 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: about this a while ago where I said, you can't 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: throw the ball forty or fifty times, you just can't. 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: And you know Ben is not capable of doing that 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: weekend in week out. He doesn't look sharp. I know, 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: he said. You know, the timing's not great that he 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: said he wants to come back for another year. But 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: they got to find something here, and they got to 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: find it quickly because they could be headed towards a 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: very very short postseason, and here we are talking about them. 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Could they go undefeated. I don't think anybody thought they 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: were great, but I think people thought, well, maybe there's 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: some magic here. But you know, they lost two really 38 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: good young defensive players there, and without any running game 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: and the receivers not holding onto the football, you know, 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Ben needs help to look good. You know, it's like 41 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers with the Colts. You know, you need a team. 42 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: It takes a village here and Ben did not look 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: good last night. They just looked like they were mailing 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: it in. They went through the motions, and I kept thinking, 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: don't let a young team that has no business winning 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: this game almost become emboldened like they You could see 47 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: the confidence level rising with the Bengals, and all of 48 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: a sudden, the Steelers are then trying to match them, 49 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, seventeen ten and I go, okay, maybe here 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: they go and they never they never had that extra gear. 51 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: But give credit to the Bengals. They have nothing to 52 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: play for and they went out and won that game. 53 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Here is Mike Tomlin after last night's loss, talking about 54 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: sort of where is this team confidence wise? Like what's 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: your sense regarding your team's confidence level? And are you 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: concerned it's getting a little fragile? Should we better not 57 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: be confident after performance like that? I'm not concerned about 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: our confidence. We just we got work to do. Yeah, 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: and you got two weeks to kind of figure this 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: out before you get to the postseason. But we'll talk 61 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: to Tony Dungee coming up like what happened? Because the Steelers, 62 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, they were winning games, they may not have 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: looked impressive. I go back to that game against the Ravens. 64 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: What was that like a Wednesday morning game? I forget, 65 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, this NFL season's been crazy. Might have been 66 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, you know, like a seven thirty kickoff, and 67 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm watching, going the Ravens have no business being in 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: this game. Steelers were dropping the football. They just kind 69 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: of went through the motions. Again, this time of the year, 70 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: you look for these teams that are peaking, that there's 71 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: that up chick on them, the teams that are really 72 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: fighting to get into the postseason. And it felt like 73 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers got to a certain level and then they 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: leveled off. And you can't let that happen. And they're 75 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: paying the price right now. All right, mclub, and what 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of poll question you have for me? Okay, off 77 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: the Steeler's loss, who is the least scary AFC playoff team? 78 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: If I gave you these choices, the Bills, the Steelers, 79 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: the Browns, the Ravens, the Cults or the Titans. I'm 80 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: not putting the Chiefs in there. Who's the one team 81 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: you want to face in the first round of the playoffs. Well, 82 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: I would say Pittsburgh. I know it's recency bias, but 83 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: I think it's not just last night recency. It's the 84 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks where you look at them and 85 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: you go the kind of paper lions here, they don't. 86 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: They don't strike me as formidable, and you know they 87 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: it kind of proven that. Yeah, McClellan, but if we 88 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: put that pull up, don't you think the Browns still 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: win that? Just because of history? I wouldn't pick. I 90 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that because the Browns to me are peaking 91 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: like they're they're doing what you're supposed to do. To 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: close out a regular season. You know, you beat a 93 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: Giants team that you might say, Okay, they're the Giants. 94 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: You went to the Giants, and that's a Giants team 95 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: that's played well, played hard, and could still win that division. 96 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Winning those games is really important. That's why when you go, well, 97 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: they're playing the Giants, Well, the Steelers were playing the Bengals, 98 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: So I have to use, you know, the same thought process, 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: same formula to go where they're playing the Giants, you're 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: playing the Bengals, and you couldn't beat the Bengals. So 101 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: what's you know? If you look at the who's more formidable, Well, 102 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: the Giants are more formidable, and the Browns ended up 103 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: winning that game, So I would the Browns are not 104 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: going to be an easy out. And I might be 105 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: in the minority here. It comes down to Baker May. 106 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: If Baker plays the way he's played, don't try to 107 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: do too much. You don't get style points in the NFL. 108 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: You just want points. Run the football, play some good defense, 109 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: don't make mistakes, and you're going to be a tough 110 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: out in my opinion. But if Pittsburgh is one sided, 111 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: one dimensional, I mean imagine being one dimensional. Your receivers 112 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: don't hang onto the football. You've got a quarterback who 113 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: he wasn't mobile, he's really immobile now, and you've got 114 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: suspicions about his knee and his arm other than that, 115 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: and your defense isn't going to win games for you 116 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: the way it once did Pittsburg. Pittsburgh got a lot 117 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: of They got a look in the mirror and go, 118 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: who are we now? Or can we reclaim what we 119 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: once were? Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 120 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 121 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox 122 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Dan Patrick 123 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 124 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f 125 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: s R, or stream us live on the Peacock Act. 126 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Through week twelve, the Steelers had a one game lead 127 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: on Kansas City for the number one seed. They held 128 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker over Kansas City. Now Steelers have dropped to 129 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: the number three seed behind Kansas City and Buffalo, with 130 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: only a tiny chance of being number one. As we 131 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: bring in the whole of Famer Football Night in America, 132 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: analyst Tony Dungee, Tony, what happened to the Steelers as 133 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: if late? Well, I thought it could possibly happen four 134 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: or five weeks ago. I think they lost their identity 135 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. They're winning games, not winning them in 136 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Steelers style, and I think it's caught up with them. 137 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: But you know, Dan, it really it's so reminiscent to 138 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: me of our team in Indianapolis in two thousand and six. 139 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: We were nine and ozo off to a great start. 140 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: We're winning games close but finding ways to win, and 141 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: then we hit a stretch in November and December where 142 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: we really struggled. In fact, in December we lost the 143 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: game to Jackson go forty four to seventeen. Felt from 144 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: the number one seed all the way to number three, 145 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: everybody said the season was over. Six weeks later, we're 146 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: hoisting the Super Bowl Trophy. We were able to get 147 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: it corrected. But these guys, they're gonna have to start 148 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: running the football. They're gonna have to get some confidence 149 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: in their offensive line where they can throw some deep balls. 150 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: I think people have caught up to this five and 151 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: six hour passing game and they're gonna have to do 152 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: something different on offense. I think it starts with getting 153 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: that identity. Hey where the Steelers. We gotta be able 154 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: to run the ball. In December, well, that's what stood 155 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: out more than anything else. The Bengals were more physical 156 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: than the Steelers were last night, and I never thought 157 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: that I would see that. I mean, this is a 158 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: Bengal defense. I mean, we really don't know the Bengals. 159 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: Steelers got household names and it didn't matter. Last night. 160 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: The Bengals were far more the aggressior. Bengals could not 161 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: or would not throw the ball. It felt like they 162 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: didn't have to. It threw for about eighty yards. They're 163 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: controlling the game, controlling the line of scrimmage, and then 164 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: defensively the same way. They just Hey, we're gonna rush 165 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: the passer, we're gonna sit down and play tight coverage. 166 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: We don't think you're gonna run. We don't think you're 167 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: gonna throw deep. So it's can you get these balls 168 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: off before our pressure gets there? And can your guys 169 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: get open in a five or six yards space? And 170 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: it was too difficult. Okay, but what Mike Tomlin do, 171 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: because there's something it's not magical, Like, what do you do? 172 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: You got two games left against the Colts and the 173 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: Browns and then you go into the playoffs. Well you 174 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: can get it back. Well, I'll tell you what I 175 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: did in two thousand and six. I said, we aren't 176 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: making any changes. We aren't bringing in any new people. 177 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: There's no saviors. What we're gonna do is get back 178 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: to basics. We're gonna cut down on our defenses. We're 179 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna cut down on offensive play. But we were able 180 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: to practice back then. You could put pads on and 181 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: you could practice tackling, you could practice blocking. I'm not 182 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: sure they can do that now, and that's part of 183 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: the problem. Bench says he's coming back next year. Is 184 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: that good for the Steelers. I think it hands on 185 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: the way this season ends up. If he plays like 186 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: they played at the beginning of the end, Ben can 187 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: be very very good. At the beginning of the year, 188 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: they're balanced and James Connor's running the ball and they've 189 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: hidden deep shots to Chase Claypool and everybody's saying Ben's back. Well, 190 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: somehow that's been gone. They've lost the confidence that they 191 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: can run the ball. And for some reason, I think 192 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: maybe it's because of the past protection. It was not 193 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: very good last night of both edges, and maybe he's 194 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: been like, I can't sit in the pocket and wait 195 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: on these deep balls. So they've just become very limited 196 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: on offense right now. But also, if you're looking at 197 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: this defense, you lose Bud Dupree, you lose Bush. I mean, 198 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: these are two really, really good players. So you can't 199 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: win games with just your defense. You are not the 200 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: same defense. And I know Mike Thomlins is not going 201 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: to make excuses. I wouldn't make excuses as a coach, 202 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: But you take out basically for your best playmakers and linebacker. 203 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: You take out Bush, who was a tremendous player, and 204 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: then his replacement guys help me with the Spillane comes 205 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: in and we don't even know him, and he plays 206 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: good ball, and now he's out and they've got a 207 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: backup safety man playing there and he gets hurt. Last night, 208 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: Bud dupre your second best pass rusher, and you had 209 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: that double edged effect, and now you don't have it 210 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: coming off the other side. So they're missing some elements 211 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: that make the Steelers defense. I can understand their defense. 212 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: Their offense has to step it up and say, you 213 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: know what, we are missing those guys. We've got to 214 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: score more. We've got to control the ball, we've got 215 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: to run it and control the clock. And that's not 216 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Right. He's Tony Dunge, the whole famer 217 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: and Corse andalist for Football Night in America. All right, 218 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: let's look at all of these teams in the AFC, 219 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: because the AFC is stacked. Once we get to the playoffs. 220 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: You know, everybody's got a flaw here. But let me 221 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: start with Kansas City. I mentioned his stat that they 222 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: really allow you to stay in games here, and that's 223 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: going to come back and haunt him. I look at 224 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: these last wins Tony, their last six two point four 225 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: three six six three come playoff time, it may not 226 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: get that lucky. Dan. I am worried about the Chiefs, 227 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: I really am. I think they're bored. I think they're 228 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: playing with fire. I think they feel like they can 229 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: do whatever they want to do. You look at that 230 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: game Sunday, and you're never gonna see Drew Brees play 231 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: as badly as he played. They had the ball for 232 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: forty minutes, They outgained them by two hundred yards. New 233 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: Orleans has a ton of penalties that keep things going. 234 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: Just their best pass rusher gets kicked out of the game. 235 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 1: All these things, and then it's a three point game 236 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: at the end and they've got to make a play 237 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: to win the game. The ABN bill has got to 238 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: make a run to run the clock out. That game 239 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: should have been a three score game. And we've seen 240 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: it over and over and over again, and they always 241 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: on that last drive when they need it, they turn 242 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: it on, they make a play. But in the playoffs, 243 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: one game knockout all of a sudden, that ball gets 244 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: tipped on third down, or you know, something happens. I 245 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: just think they're playing with fire. And then you start 246 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: to look at these other teams, that team that would 247 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: have the best chance to knock off Kansas City, because 248 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go to Kansas City to knock 249 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: them off. So who would have the best chance in 250 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: your opinion in the AMC. Well, forget about defense, because 251 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: the Saints played the best you can play. They harass 252 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: Mahomes and they got thirty two points. So if you're 253 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: going to knock them off, you have to score points. 254 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: So who can go in there play a semblance of defense, 255 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: rush the passer with four guys, but move the ball 256 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: and score points. Tennessee can move the ball and score 257 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: points in that ground game could be effective. I don't 258 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: know if they have the defensive personnel to really hold 259 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: them down. Maybe Buffalo has the best chance that you know, 260 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: they're scoring and Josh Allen's playing great, Maybe they can 261 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: match them with big plays and just get enough of 262 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: a pass rush to do it. But Kansas City went 263 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: into Buffalo and dominated that game running the football early 264 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: in the year, so I'm not sure it's well Kansas 265 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: City play up to their standard. If they play up 266 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: to their stand for two games. I don't think anyone 267 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: can beat them. Yeah, I was wondering about the Titans, 268 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, because you got Derrick Henry, and you know, 269 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: can he keep his defense off the field long enough 270 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: so they're fresh every time they go on there against 271 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I like the Colts. I think the Colts 272 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: are really balanced team. I just don't know about Philip 273 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Rivers in a big moment Tony Well, the Colts would 274 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: have a chance to because they can move the ball. 275 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: They've got a good offensive line. They could protect Rivers enough. 276 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: They can hit some deep shots. Kansas City is going 277 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: to give you a chance on some deep balls because 278 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna play bump and run. They're gonna blitz to 279 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: t Y, Hilton, Pascal, those guys have a chance to 280 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: make some big plays. They can rush the passer justin 281 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: Houston and DeForrest. Butckner could pressure without blitzing. Now you 282 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: can make a couple of plays. You can hang in 283 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: there in a high scoring game. They would have an 284 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: opportunity at thing. Let's look at the NFC. Feels like 285 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: everybody's flawed here. Green Bay, my looks like they're gonna 286 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: have home field advantage here, But a run defense concerns 287 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: me here Tone I don't I don't know. Run defense 288 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: is going to get tested this week. Yes it is. 289 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna get a good idea of how good they 290 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: are against Derrick Henry. Will really be interesting because it's 291 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: strength against weakness. The Titans do not really have a 292 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: great secondary. They don't rush the passer well, that is, 293 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, terminal against Aaron Rodgers. But they're Achilles held. 294 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay is run defense, and Derreck Henry is going 295 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: to pound it up inside and keep those pass rushes 296 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: at Bay. I think we could see a real entertaining, 297 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: high scoring game. But Green Bay in that weather, they 298 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: get the cold weather, what team can go up there? Really, 299 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Are they going to go up there and 300 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: light it up in cold weather? I doubt it. But 301 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: even like Seattle, I could see them with Russell Wilson 302 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: and you know, traveling and pulling off an upset there. 303 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about the Rams, I am you know. 304 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: Every time I think I understand the Rams, you know, 305 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: they surprised me here. I was touting them as the 306 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: best team in football three weeks ago. I thought their 307 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: defense was coming around. They can pressure the passer. They 308 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: played physical, and then that run game just kept really 309 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Jared Golf in good situations where he was thrown outside 310 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: the pocket to open receivers. But when you take that 311 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: runaway and you make them really push the ball down 312 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: the field, that they struggle, and then you know, the 313 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: Jets game just did not look good on any front. 314 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: So if you're capable of playing a game like that 315 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: when you're fighting for home field advantage, that was disappointing. 316 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: How many stockings do you have behind Utah? That is 317 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: actually that should be twelve to Lauren and I and 318 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: all the kids. You didn't even know. I had to recount. 319 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: You have twelve stockings back there, so you and your 320 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: wife and then twelve days of Christmas? Yeah, ten kids? 321 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. You ever forget anybody's name? I do. 322 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking about that, asked me, everybody, Can I 323 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: get them all? And I could get them all. I 324 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: don't know if I could get him in order, but 325 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: I could get them all. The Kevin Green passing away 326 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: at the age of fifty eight, you know, that seems 327 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: like the last generation of those that just played football 328 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: and they weren't worried about their health I don't know, 329 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: you know what Kevin died of, but at age fifty eight, 330 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: and he was one of the great pass rushers. There 331 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: was almost a WWE field. He was a wrestler out there. 332 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: He embraced it, the hair. He didn't mind being a 333 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: bad guy. He was entertaining. What comes to mind when 334 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: I say Kevin Green, Oh, just a warrior, And that 335 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: one really hurts Dan. We all went in the two 336 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: sixteen class, and when you go in as a Hall 337 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: of Fame class, you become close. You're like brothers and 338 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: you stay in touch with each other. And to to 339 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: have one of our classmates pass away, it really really 340 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: it hit hit hard. Yeah, good to talk to you, 341 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: and uh, merry Christmas hopefully it's great. How young is 342 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: your youngest five? O? Okay, so we're still over to 343 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: Christmas presents and went through that. Yeah, the oldest daughter 344 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: is thirty five now, so we've got a nice thirty 345 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: year spread. Oh my god. Unbelievably, there's a special place 346 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: in heaven for you. Tone would say, well, I'll tell 347 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: you what. Keep the cheat warm from me, But I 348 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: don't know if I'll join you, but you know, well, 349 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. We'll talk about how to get 350 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: you up. I love the outfits. I love the set. 351 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: Tell those guys they did a great job with the set. 352 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Thank you buddy, uh Mary Christmas, thank you again. All Right, 353 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: that's dp great to talk to you, Tony Dungee, Hall 354 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: of Famer, Hall of Fame Dad as well. To catch 355 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 356 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 357 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: and the iHeart Radio app. I was watching the Eagles 358 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals and I was enjoying the commentary 359 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: by Keep Talib, the Fox Sports analysts. Five time pro 360 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: bowler won a Super Bowl with the Broncos and now 361 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: working for Fox and Keep Talib joining us on the program. 362 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: How would you rate your performance so far? Keep, I 363 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: don't have to rate it, man, And you know, I 364 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: just I just go out and try to have a 365 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: little fun. So you know, I got pretty good feedback. 366 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I rate it off the feedback, So you know, I 367 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: got pretty good feedback from the guys over at five, 368 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: so I guess it was decent. But also it's really 369 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: important to get people who are going to be honest 370 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: with you because a lot of people just say, hey, man, 371 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: sounded good. And if they say that, then say, well, 372 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: what did you like? Like you? I don't if you 373 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: really want to know if you approach this the way 374 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: you did as a defensive back, hey, I want to 375 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: be great? How do I be great? You have to 376 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: approach it the same way? And hopefully you got some 377 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: people who won't just go, yeah, that was good, man, 378 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Ask them or was there anything that 379 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: I you didn't like? Because if you, if you do 380 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: ask those questions, you might get some answers that can 381 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: really help you, right right, that's and I do I 382 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: do that, rich a man, Damn sorry, I do that 383 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: all right. I got some people on my team who 384 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: brutally honest. So I think from week one, from the 385 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: first game to the second game, I think I improved. 386 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: And I think it had a lot to do with 387 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: the criticism that I received from people who I asked. 388 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: But also, you're looking at this from a defensive perspective, 389 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: or at least I get that feeling. A lot of 390 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: analysts are offensive, you know, players, former quarterbacks. Are you 391 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: purposely looking at it from a different perspective because you 392 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: played defensive? Well, I think I look at it. I 393 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: just watched the game and talk about it as I 394 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: see it, so naturally, I see it as a defensive 395 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: person a defensive perspective, So I think I called a 396 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: game that way. So I think I think that just 397 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: comes naturally. And then you start to break things down, 398 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: like it's weird to watch a game that way. Are 399 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: you watching off the monitor? Are you watching the actual 400 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: game itself? Well, I watch. I watched the actual game itself, 401 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: So I watch. I just watch and see what coverage 402 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: than in. Once the play starts, I see what coverage 403 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: thing m I kind of moved to the quarterback and 404 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: I see where he threw the ball, and I know 405 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: kind of what are he's throwing the ball into, you know, 406 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: because I know what coverage stands. So I always start 407 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: with the defense, see what they're playing first, and then 408 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: my eyes moves to the offense. But I'm watching the 409 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: game off the field itself, and I love that you 410 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: just tell it as it is. That I feel like 411 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm watching a game with a former player, but not 412 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: a former player who went to broadcast school. You're just saying, Hey, 413 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: this is what I see, and this is what I'm saying, 414 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: and it's refreshing and I hope you're able to still 415 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: be yourself because a lot of times the executives come 416 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: in or producers and directors and then they want to 417 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: change you a little bit. I like that. It's it's 418 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: not polished, but I didn't expect it to be because 419 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: you're still you're starting out and trying to figure all 420 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: this out. But it feels honest to keep. That's probably 421 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: the best compliment I can give you. It feels honest 422 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: in what you're telling me when you're breaking things down. 423 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: Are you worried about being too honest in that position? 424 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just I go off the audition during 425 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: a pandemic. I had an audition and we kind of 426 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: did it over the Zoom call. We caught a game, 427 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: Me and Kevin Burkhardt caught a game over Zoom and 428 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: I just however, I called a game on there. It 429 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: was good enough for me to sign a three game 430 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: deal with Fox Good So you know, uh, if it 431 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: was good enough to do that, then it was it 432 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: was good enough to get me a second game, you know. 433 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: So I only know one way to do it, you 434 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Dan, I don't I don't know 435 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: how to not be myself, and then executive having came 436 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: in and told me to not be myself and not 437 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: be honest yet, so I'm only I only know one 438 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: way to do it. So that's the way I'm doing it. 439 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: Who's picking up the game day outfits there for you? 440 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: How I am? I am? I'm doing all the all 441 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: the wardrobe. I've always been a dresser of myself, you know. 442 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: But but I have a suit lady. I have a 443 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: suit lady at the company Elevate, and she always does 444 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: a great job. I kind of give her to feel 445 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: what I'm kind of going for and she always do 446 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: a great job bringing it to life. Who would you 447 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: rather face? Kyler Murray or Jalen Hurts. Oh, that's a 448 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: tough question. They both so similar. They bring a lot 449 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: of stuff to the table as far as man, when 450 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: that pass play breakdown, they can turn the running backs 451 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: and they both throwing the ball super good right now 452 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: as well? Man, that's a tough question. Man, you're gonna 453 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: have your hand for it with either one. Dan, Yeah, 454 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: but you gotta pick though, Okay, come on, you're an animalist. Now. 455 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: I'd rather play, I'd rather play I'd rather play Jalen Hurts, 456 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, he just got another year of experience under 457 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: his belt. I think he had a little further along 458 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: and in his progression right now. So as of right 459 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: now today, Yeah, I take Jalen Hurts. What was the 460 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: play against Jane Hurts. What was the scouting reporter on 461 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger when you when you played, Uh, that he'll hold 462 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: the ball, create that extra second. He was in that 463 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: category with those quarterbacks, the ones that you gotta instead 464 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: of two and a half seconds, we gotta guard our 465 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: receiver for three and a half seconds because big being 466 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: he to shake his eye off and h he'd create 467 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: the extra second. What else we had on big being, Uh, 468 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: he had a great deep ball. If a guy covered, 469 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: he's still trying with a great deep ball. And us 470 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: as far as big being not Pittsburgh, as far as 471 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: big being, that was probably the main two things that 472 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: I had in my notebook. Yeah. Uh. And then you 473 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: played against and with Brady what definitely? But what is 474 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: that book still accurate of if you were facing Tom 475 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: now as opposed to you know, five seven years ago, 476 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: it's different. It's different, it's changing a different offense. Man. 477 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: It was a lot of quick game a lot of 478 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: over the middle inside the numbers teams. It was a 479 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: lot of those kind of passes. Now it's it's the 480 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: field is definitely stretching with that Bruce arians offense. So 481 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: it's it's you have some adjustments. It's something. It's something 482 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: still vintage Tom Brady still in that offense, but it's 483 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: definitely a lot more a lot more passes downfield for Tom. 484 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: Didn't you stay back in March? I think that Brady 485 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: was leaving the pain matrix? Is that right? I'm m love, 486 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: I mean this, this is what y'all doing. Y'all be 487 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: able to bring the record and uther, But I definitely 488 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: I had to. I had to feel the news over. 489 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: I remember I remember me saying, I think that the 490 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: marriage is over. Man, It's it's burnt out. I remember 491 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: saying it's burnt out, I think, and I remember predicting 492 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: that time was gonna move on. Yeah. And it's a 493 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: weird thing though, just to see him. You know in Tampa, Um, 494 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: did you get yelled at by Belichick? Uh? I did? 495 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: I think just about everybody got yelled Alick. So yeah, 496 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: practice definitely, definitely in practice a few times in the game. Yeah, 497 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: Bill he's not gonna bite his tongue. So if you're 498 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: in the mix, if you're in the game, in the mix, 499 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get yelled at from him, and him 500 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: saying sooner or later he should keep to leave the 501 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: Fox NFL analysts. Five time pro bowler won the Super 502 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: Bowl with the Broncos Super Bowl fifty. This Friday, the 503 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: Vikings take on the same special Christmas Day matchup. Coverage 504 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: begins at three thirty Eastern on Fox NFL Network and 505 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: streaming on Prime Video. Do you have any beef leftover 506 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: with somebody that you know that's not going away even 507 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: though you're not playing anymore? Are you still? Are you 508 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: mad at anybody? Nah? No, I've never really played mad 509 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: at mad at nobody. I mean, somebody do something disrespectful 510 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: in the game. I usually handled it, but no, I 511 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: kind of kind of leave leave it where it's a 512 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, beef for nobody in the NFL right now. Man, 513 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: A lot more friends than enemies in Who's the wide 514 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: receiver that you lined up and you knew this's gonna 515 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: be a long day? Calvin Johnson? Yeah, I followed him 516 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: around I think three times or two times in my career, 517 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: and I think I played against him, uh maybe four 518 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: times in my career, and every time and watching it 519 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: on tape, I'm like, this guy is the best. Then 520 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: when we got to the game, it definitely translated and 521 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: he was definitely the best in the game. Who's the 522 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: quarterback you loved to face? Quarterback? Who I loved to face? Oh, 523 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: let me go back, take you Jason Campbell. I'm gonna 524 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: go back a little bit. Man. I enjoyed playing against 525 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: Jason Campbell. Uh, fel like he was on my team 526 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: some of the time. No, I definitely, I definitely love 527 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: He threw me three interceptions one game. Man. I've seen 528 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: him in the lobby. I've seen him in the lobby 529 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: of the hotel one time in Miami Super Bowl time. 530 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: Told him he was my favorite quarterback. Definitely, definitely Jason Campbell. 531 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: Oh that is so good. Wow. Did he think that 532 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: it was a compliment or did he know? I don't know. 533 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't know it was. It was Super Bowl time, 534 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: so you know it was a young Leaves Super Bowl time. 535 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Man had a couple of guys with me. My brother 536 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: was with me. Man, who's hanging out? Man into the room, 537 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: So that is really I think I think coming from me, 538 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: he probably knew what I was talking about. Well, I 539 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: think he would remember he threw three picks and uh 540 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: so if you walk up to him and it's like 541 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: you're my favorite quarterback man, yeah exactly. Hey, well, good 542 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: luck with u, you know, the rest of the year. 543 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully you got some more games in there. And we 544 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: appreciate your time and keep appreciate too. Thank you. I'll 545 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: take care all right, Let's keep to lee. Thanks for 546 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 547 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern 548 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you 549 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or 550 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. I always love 551 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: listening to Nick Wright, first things first on Fox Sports one, 552 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: and I agree with a lot of things that he says. 553 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: And then Fritzie goes, uh, Nick, Right's got a problem 554 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: with you. I go, oh, okay, So what's the problem. Nick? 555 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: I hear you don't like the picture we use when 556 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: we're promoting the fact that you're going to be on 557 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: our show. Well listen, I mean, I've been on TV 558 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: a few years I've been a semi public person for 559 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: the better part of a decade. You have a lot 560 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: of pictures to choose from, yet you choose one where 561 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: I have a shaved head and a double chin, and 562 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: I feel like this is intentional. I mean, you have 563 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: a you have an army of team around you, mountain 564 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: of resources. There's a lot of images, some flattering, some not, 565 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: and some the one you chose. So yeah, I do 566 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: have a bit of a problem with that. Okay, So 567 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: you think that I went out of my way to 568 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: make you look bad, Yeah, I think. I'm not gonna 569 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: name names here, but there is an all time pantheon 570 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: great sports radio host who I believe, once upon a 571 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: time back in the day, used to intentionally choose bad 572 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: fill in hosts. So when he came back, people were like, 573 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're the gray I think Dan Patrick 574 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: chooses ill fitting pictures for his guests. So it's like, man, 575 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: even in his older years, that Dan Patrick, that's a 576 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: good looking guy. Nick, you chose baldness. I didn't. You 577 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: chose in my head to add an edginess to me, 578 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: and it rose me to the heights I am said, 579 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: And then I grew my hair I was afraid of 580 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: bald Nick. I'm not afraid of this. Nick. Yeah I'm soft. 581 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah it's true. Yeah it's true. Yeah, you are soft. 582 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: I just would. I got on a rant here. I 583 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: was wondering. And let's say when Durant is done, Steph 584 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: Curry's done, like, are they top ten players of old times? 585 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: And if so, who are we taking out? Because we 586 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: can't have fifteen guys in a top ten? That is Dan, 587 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: What a wonderful question. Because I just completed I haven't 588 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: yet released it a project I'm more going on for 589 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: a year the fifty best players of the last fifty years, 590 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: so Kareem to now so Will Russell, Elgin, Oscar, Jerry, 591 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: Mike and those guys are not being included. And on 592 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: that list, durant Is twelve step is thirteen, so ahead 593 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: of them, Doctor Jay, Moses Shack, I'm going kind of 594 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: in reverse order, twelve to one Shack, Aqeem Bird, Kobe Duncan, Magic, Kareem, 595 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: Michael Lebron. There might have been one name I left, 596 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: so I'm doing off the top of my head. But 597 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: d Durant's twelve step is thirteen according to that, No, 598 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't And if you include Wilt and Russell and 599 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: Jerry Weston Oscar. You got to move each of those 600 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: guys down another four spots. So no, I don't think 601 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: it's likely for either of these those guys have become 602 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: top ten of all time. And if we're just doing 603 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: the modern era, I think they could. But like, you 604 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: got to move past Doctor J and Moses Malone, and 605 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: then you got to move past Shack or a team 606 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: just to get to the top ten. At least in 607 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: my eyes, I think Doctor J is totally underrated, but 608 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: that's neither here with it. I saw him play against 609 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Colonels and ABA. Yeah, and that's why he's underrated. 610 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Like I and I whenever he would 611 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: play against the Nuggets, I always felt bad for Bobby Jones. 612 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: Bobby Jones was supposed to be this defensive star and 613 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: Doctor J left his great game on the playgrounds and 614 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: in the ABA, and then what we got in Philadelphia. 615 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: You got to see glimpses when they lost to the 616 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: Blazers in the NBA Finals, and Doc was so unbelievable 617 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals. But I'm with you, I just 618 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: don't I don't know why he doesn't get recognized as 619 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: one of the top ten fifteen players of all time 620 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: because because listen, he was in the ABA, and it 621 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: is off top of my head, I think he won 622 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: three ABA MVPs. Think he won the They didn't have 623 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: a ABA Finals MVP Award. They had a playoff MVP Award. 624 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: He won two or three of those. He won championships there, 625 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: and when he got to Philly, he did take them 626 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: two four NBA finals, at least three NBA finals. They 627 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: couldn't get over the hump, but they were up against 628 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: awesome teams and then once Moses joins him, that might 629 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: be the greatest team ever. Eighty three six Ers, eighty 630 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: six Celtics, oh one Lakers, twenty seventeen Warriors are like, 631 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, all in the argument and probably I'm probably 632 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: leaving out one of the showtime Lakers. So yeah, but 633 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: it's because his careers split ABA the NFL comp I 634 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: would give not that this is a top ten guy 635 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: twelve guy of all time. Warren Moon is historically underrated 636 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: because we just were like, ah, he played in the 637 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: CFL and was great there. It's like, no, he was 638 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: the best player in the league by a mile. When 639 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: he was there. That's what doctor J. Wilk. Yeah, Doctor J. 640 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: It's almost like he got to the NBA. It's like 641 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: Kareem in the seventies. Kareem in the eighties. It was 642 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: a different player. And you don't realize how dominating Kareem 643 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: was when he first got to Milwaukee. A couple of things. Here, 644 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: better chance to reach the NBA Final. I'm gonna bounce 645 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: around here, please, better chance to reach the finals? The 646 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: Nets or the Sixers. Sixers. Here's the thing with the Nets. 647 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: The Nets are going to have the number one offense 648 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: in basketball. I would be I'd be shocked if they 649 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 1: even have the number two offense. Their offense is going 650 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: to be so dynamic, and Joe Harris is going to 651 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: become a household name because he's gonna hit a million 652 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: open threes. They are going to have a bottom five, 653 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: not ten, not fifteen, a bottom five defense, and I 654 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: don't know how you solve it. I just don't know. 655 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: And you can't win multiple playoff rounds with that type 656 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: of defense. There's no historical precedent for it. The six 657 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: on the other hand, I think are going to be 658 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: good right off the bat, but their plan b is 659 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: acquire James Harden. So it's like they're either going to 660 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: be really good or if they're not, you just go 661 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: acquire James Harden because there's not gonna be a package 662 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: for him better than Ben Simmons. So I really and 663 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: Ebid if you look at himbiad statistical profile and remove 664 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: last year, he looks like he's gonna be a thirty 665 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: and fifteen guy. Two years ago, Ebid was twenty eight fourteen, 666 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: two and a half blocks, went to Game seven, you know, 667 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: against Kawahi and the Raptors. They lose on a bucket. 668 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: He could have made the finals a couple of years ago. 669 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: Last year was a down year for him. He is. 670 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: Luca is who I would bet on and who I 671 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: did bet on. The NBA won't give me a vote 672 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: for awards, which is really criminals. Should be an investigation, 673 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: but since I don't have one, I can gamble on it. 674 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: So I bet a lot of money on Luca. But 675 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: if Luca doesn't win it, my pick would be Durant 676 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: and then in Bad would be the top three. Yeah, 677 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: I might go Durant as well, And I don't know 678 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:07,479 Speaker 1: if there's Greek freak fatigue. He can't win it no way. Well, 679 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm guessing he probably can't because, okay, let's say he 680 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: averages what he averaged or improves a little bit and 681 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: their best record in basketball. We've seen all of these things, 682 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: and it feels like the voters wants something new and like, 683 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: in the last fifty years, the only guy to win 684 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: three in a row was Bird, and Bird was doing 685 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: it in the midst of winning titles. Yeah, and it's like, wow, 686 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: he's really he's just the best player in the league 687 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: on the best team. I think that one of the 688 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: reasons I like Luca Is, I think Jannis is. I 689 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: think Yannis could average thirty four, seventeen and six and 690 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: won't win it. Harden no chance at winning it. He's 691 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: in it every year. But I feel like his nobody's 692 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna reward. How that's going right, Yeah, Lebron is going 693 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: to play fewer games this year than maybe he has 694 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: at any point in his career. Anthony Davis, It's hard 695 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: for me to believe voters at the end of the 696 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: year are going to be like, you know what, the 697 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: most valuable player in the league is a guy I 698 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 1: know isn't the most valuable player on his own team, 699 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: so that hurts Anthony Davis for step. The Warriors are 700 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: going to be fighting to make it to the playoffs. 701 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: So now who are we talking about? You know what 702 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, You're like running out of people. I think 703 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: KD is a really good option. But I think Luke 704 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: is going to average thirty ten and nine, and if 705 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: that team's a top four seed, that that'll win the MVP. 706 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: I like to watch bad teams, Nick, but I have 707 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: to invest in a bad player on a bad team 708 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: or a good good player on a bad team, I 709 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: should say. So, LaMelo Ball has come to my rescue. 710 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm all in on LaMelo Ball. I'm all in. I 711 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: think he is. He makes them the Hornets not musty TV, 712 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: but must stop to watch a little bit of them, 713 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: which would be a new phrase here. But I don't 714 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: know where you stand on LaMelo Ball, but I'm all in. Well, 715 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: you know you haven't asked me about gambling, so I'll 716 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: bring it up a second time. Not that I have 717 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: an issue. I bet a lot of money because I 718 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: think that I think people are going to consume the 719 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: Hornets just like that. LaMelo's gonna have knights where he's 720 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: three for seventeen. Guess what, no one's gonna know. But 721 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: he's gonna have knights where he shows up all over 722 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: Sports Center and we'll sports Center, that's the thing people 723 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: used to watch First Things first on FS one is 724 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: where they sports information, highlights, um, and he's gonna be 725 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: top of mind. The Warriors want to win, So I 726 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: don't think Weissman is gonna get, you know, necessarily, all 727 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: the minutes, all the touches, and then we I know 728 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: Obie Toppin is like a popular pick with the Knicks, 729 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think LaMelo is gonna have good 730 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: numbers and good highlights, and it's not an overwhelmingly strong 731 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: rookie class. I know that's unfair to say they haven't 732 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: played a game yet, but in my eyes it's not. 733 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: I think LaMelo is a good pick. I think LaMelo 734 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: also is gonna be better than his brother. He's gonna 735 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: be no. I do too. I mean, I think he's 736 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: a legitimate matchup problem. He can get to the hoop 737 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: right hand, left hand his shot, while it's too low 738 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: for me, at least it's you have to at least 739 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: acknowledge it on defense. But I like him now. The 740 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: reason why I was going to have you on, believe 741 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: it or not, was you said something about the Kansas 742 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: City Chiefs where you talked about them this might be 743 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: the best road performance that we've seen. No, I'm paraphrasing 744 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: here because I'm usually combing my hair and putting makeup 745 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: on while i'm you know, listening to first things first, 746 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: because I like to see gen and Wolf on there. 747 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: The Chiefs are having historically one of the greatest road 748 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: seasons of all time, right, yeah, okay, I mean so 749 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: they're eight No on the road. Eight teams have ever 750 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: done that. And what they've done on the road is 751 00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: beat preseason Super Bowl co favorite Baltimore at the beginning 752 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: of the year, before Baltimore had shown some weaknesses. Went 753 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: to Miami, scored thirty consecutive points when Miami was playing 754 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: at its best. Went to Tampa when Tampa was playing 755 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: its best, beat them. Went to New Orleans, and I 756 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: understand Breeze was obviously not himself, but controlled that game 757 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: and take away what the Saints offense did. The Saints 758 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: defense had been number one in football for six weeks, 759 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: hung thirty two on them. Went to Oakland when Oakland 760 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: was six and two, or six and three and avenged 761 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: that loss their one loss the year and went to 762 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo and beat them and their other two road games, 763 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: or the divisional games Chargers game very early in the 764 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: year and annihilating Denver. I mean, you've got six road 765 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: victories over playoff caliber teams and three over the five 766 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: Super Bowl co favorites essentially, or the five or the six. 767 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I feel like it's hard to 768 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: show me a season where someone had a better road performance. 769 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: These numbers concern me, though. Nick and Tony Dungey was 770 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: on First Hour and he said, I think the Chiefs 771 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: are bored. They won by two, four, three, six, six 772 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: three in their last six games. They won the games. 773 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: They allow teams to hang around, and that's what's interesting 774 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: come playoff time for me, So allow me. I'm gonna 775 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 1: glance down because I have this saved on my phone. 776 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: The final margins are not overly impressive. What is impressive 777 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: is they're never in jeopardy. So by that, I mean 778 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: the last time the Saints had the ball with a 779 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: chance to take the lead midway through the third quarter. 780 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: For the Dolphins, it was in the second quarter. For 781 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks, it was in the first quarter for the Bills, 782 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: it was in the third quarter. For the Ravens, it 783 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: was in the second quarter. So they certainly take their 784 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: foot off the gas get bored a lot, but they 785 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: they seem to They never There hasn't been a moment 786 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: in the last two months where it's like, man, if 787 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs they have to get this stop or they lose. 788 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: The only game that came close that was Carolina when 789 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: Joey Slide was kicking a sixty seven yard field goal 790 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: to try to beat him, like that wasn't a real thing. 791 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: And I do think Dan, if the Saints game listen, 792 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have been as close as it was. And 793 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are just just addicted to letting teams backdoor cover. 794 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they've won six in a row and didn't 795 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: cover any of the games that never happens. But I 796 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: the Saints scored that touchdown with two h six left 797 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 1: and two timeouts. Against every team in all of NFL history, 798 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: you kick off and try to stop him. I do 799 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: wonder if against the Chiefs you have to consider onside 800 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: kick there if it's like, if we give it to Mahomes, 801 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: he needs a first down, he's gonna get it like 802 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: he's just gonna get it. So I just I think 803 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: this is team is not going to lose until next season. 804 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes he's Nick right Fox Sports one, and you've angered 805 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: the bald community because you can grow hair. You wanted 806 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: an edge, and you shaved your head and now you're 807 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: kind of thumbing your nose at the bald Nick right, 808 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: here's poor Todd fritz Todd. Todd wants look like Mark 809 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 1: Ruffalo and take the hat off time, like Nick should 810 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: understand that. Like the Dan, somewhere in America, there is 811 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: a bald man who loves the Los Angeles Clippers and 812 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: lives in Buffalo, New York and roots for the Bills. 813 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 1: And if I ever show up missing, he's the number 814 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: one subject. There's someone who all of my sports commentary 815 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: and my follicle greatness if we will has it just 816 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: it represents everything he hates in the world. I don't 817 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: think that's Todd Friz, but Fritzie's from Brooklyn and he 818 00:44:55,080 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: roots for the Broncos. Oh I'm sorry, Broncos in Astro. Yeah, 819 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: Extro's fine. It's top to win when you're on cheat, 820 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: but it's fine next time you're on. Yeah, we're gonna 821 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: show this right here, this look right there. That's great. 822 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: I hope you're wearing the same sweater. You know what, 823 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: maybe you got a baby picture. Maybe you send in one. 824 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: You know that your wife has one that you you know, 825 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: like little baby Hot Takes. We'll just say Nick Wright's 826 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: joining us for baby hot takes, Little baby hot Takes. 827 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Thank you, Nick, you two, thank you, Bud, 828 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: thank you Nick. That's Nick right. Fox Sports one. 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