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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody excited to be back on the grass

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Speaker 2: Have you done have you guys had, if it's you

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Speaker 2: or somebody on the analytics, done a study that you know,

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Speaker 2: do you think these teams are just not going to

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, is there a major

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Speaker 1: twenty five and that's going to be a deterrent to them?

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Speaker 2: Or do you think, look, you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have to have a lot of returns because they're

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Speaker 1: just not going to want to keep it to us

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Speaker 1: on the thirty. Yes, So there's always been studies based

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Speaker 1: field position with special teams. It's undeniable that it is

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Speaker 1: it's your team score points. So there are obviously yard

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Speaker 1: when you kick a touchback, how that feels. Let's say

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Speaker 1: What does that feel like to you? That's where this

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Speaker 1: game is going to be very, very revealing, you know,

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Speaker 2: They're real stuff in some ways, too right to try

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Speaker 1: Right in a sense, I think everybody has this notion

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Speaker 1: and that will ultimately tell you, you know, how obviously

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Speaker 2: Has there ever been a situation where you've gone into

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Speaker 1: Maybe not. I think when you have an open mind

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Speaker 1: it is changing, and it's our jobs as coaches to

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Speaker 2: How much kind has gone into you from your perspective

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Speaker 2: You almost have to teach it over right from scratch

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Speaker 3: Where are your players right now, the ones who need

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Speaker 1: So I think they're in a really good spot because

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Speaker 3: Scale of one to ten, how much of a change

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Speaker 1: One to ten, I mean I would say a seven

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Speaker 1: They are and they truly are pressing themselves to give

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Speaker 1: I think you ultimately accelerate the learning process, because it's twofold.

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Speaker 3: Have there been any conversation with any of the players

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Speaker 1: I certainly haven't had any conversations with guys, so I

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Speaker 1: It just kind of curious, like what your thought processes

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Speaker 2: Imagine I would imagine when you're looking at your core

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