1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. This is the best of with 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. I had mentioned this too. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: I thought this was so interesting that the timing of it, 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: and it brings up some broader, broader issues and concerns. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: I think energy is one of the weak points of 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: the Biden regime. There's no question about that energy policy, 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: fossil fuels. They have an ideological obsession with limiting and 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: pushing back as much as possible fossil fuel development in 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: favor of renewables, even when they're more expensive, even when 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: it has massive geopolitical implications. I mean, look at how 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: the Russian economy has collapsed. Oh wait, no, it hasn't. 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: But that was what was going to happen right when 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: we started. Oh but we actually can't stop them from 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: selling their oil, and that's not even hasn't even been 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: shut down by the sanctions. Venezuela, though, is a country 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: that the Left does not want to talk to you 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: about out very much. You know, I spent a lot 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: of time in Florida and South Laorde, in particular in Clay. 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: The Venezuela refugee population in the United States is very, 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: very considerable, very large, especially in South Florida and Venezuela 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: has been You've had about six million people in the 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: last decade fleeing Venezuela. You have six million people who 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: are just couldn't deal with it anymore. They've seen the 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: every aspect of life in Venezuela economically, socially, politically. There's 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: not enough food on the shelves, the economy is destroyed, 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: hyper inflation is happening. All this has been going on, 27 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: and it's because you have the Maduro socialist regime of 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: thugs who are very quick to talk about social justice 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: and redistribution of wealth. They've destroyed, but was the second 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: wealthiest country in Latin in South America. Yes, I've lived 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: a second wealthiest country, and even per capita when you 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: add in the oil revenues. It was a place that 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: was doing quite well up through the nineties, but then 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the socialists took over. This is interesting because you have 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: the Biden administration right before Thanksgiving cutting back on the 36 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: sanctions that we have on Venezuela, and we do. We 37 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: could do a whole deep dive into you have the 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Venezuela in some of the top government officials are actually 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: officially sanctioned as narco traffickers. To give you a sense 40 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: of how things are going there. I think the vice 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: president of Venezuela, he certainly was at one point a 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: sanctioned narco trafficker by the US Treasury Department. These are 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: people that are making millions, perhaps even billions over the 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: long haul, selling cocaine heroin into the US, poisoning our 45 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: cities and our people. The Biden administration decided that they 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: were going to take more oil from Venezuela. And what's fascinating, 47 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: they did this right before Thanksgiving. To nobody who pay attention. 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: There's also a country right next to Venezuela, Guiana. My 49 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: sister's husband's family is from Guiana, and Guiana just had 50 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: the discovery of a considerable I think it's eleven billion 51 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: barrels they estimate offshore. So this is a huge boon, 52 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: a huge economic game changer for the country of Guiana, 53 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: which is a US ally aligned with our aligned with 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: US ideologically capitalist in its approach. And at the same time, 55 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: the Biden administration saying more oil from Venezuela, that sounds good. 56 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: They vetoed a loan that the US government. The US 57 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: government was in a position through a public private one 58 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: of his public private vehicles to make so that Guiana 59 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: can't develop its offshore reserves. So we'd rather buy oil 60 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: right now from the evil commies running Venezuela than help 61 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: an Ally and Guiana develop considerable resource versus natural fossil 62 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: fuel resources over the next ten years. Because Clay, why 63 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: the Green New Deal, and also the Biden regime lacks commis. 64 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, they totally slid this under the radar. Look, 65 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: they begged Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, and Saudi Arabia, 66 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: Mohammed been Salman in particular, basically gave him the back 67 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: of the hand. Remember Biden traveled all the way to 68 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. They didn't want to shake hands, so instead 69 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: he did a fist bump. And they also kind of 70 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: slid late at night the story, by the way, after saying, oh, 71 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: they're a pariah state, we're not going to treat Saudi 72 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: Arabia well. In the wake of the Jamal Kashogi murder, 73 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: they then said, oh, yeah, Mohammed been Salmon, he has 74 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: diplomatic community, which feels to me like buck even more 75 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: of an attempt to try to get oil out of 76 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, and so given what's gone on with Russia, 77 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: they have made the calculated decision we are not going 78 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: to increase production in the United States because we don't 79 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: want to upset all these crazy environmentalist Green New Deal people. 80 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: But instead we're going to allow Venezuela to increase its production, 81 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: and we're going to give more money to them instead 82 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: of putting more money into our own countries coffers. So 83 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: this is just infuriating because it presumes, first of all, 84 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: that somehow the economy, sorry the overall environment is better 85 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: off because we're getting oil from those places as opposed 86 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: to the United States, when in reality, Buck it's actually 87 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: worse for the environment because they don't have the same 88 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: safeguards for oil and gas pumping that we do here. 89 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: And most in the media just totally don't pay attention 90 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: to it, and as you mentioned, they drop the news 91 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: right and going into a holiday weekend, know that most 92 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: people are not going to focus on it, and it 93 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: just completely vanishes. It's to me emblematic of how broken 94 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: American energy policy is under the Biden administration. But I 95 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: think it's significant. I think it needs to be talked 96 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: about and they don't have to do. It is just 97 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: so transparently wrong. You don't have to go that far 98 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: back to read editorials in places like the New York 99 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: Times that were really optimistic and very defensive even of Chavez. 100 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: And now now obviously it's the Maduro regime took over 101 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: for Chavez. Because this had all the makings of the 102 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: usual social justice narrative. Oh, there's the rich elites and 103 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: they have access to the oil wealth, and if only 104 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: we had a government that was more consider more considerate 105 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: about sharing the wealth and spreading it around the lift 106 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: everybody out of poverty. And what they did is they 107 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: then seized. They nationalized a lot of assets. They seize 108 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: the factories, they seized obviously the oil assets. First a 109 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: socialist regime, they effectively destroyed private property and also started 110 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: instituting price controls. And the price controls mechanism is what 111 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: really drives things into the dumpster because they say, oh, 112 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: well we can't get washing machines made, or you can't 113 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: find any washing machines in the store, you can't find 114 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: name any consumer good, We're just going to set the 115 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: price lower. Well, that creates a death spiral in the 116 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: markets that creates massive shortages. It is an economic case 117 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: study in why you don't actually have people who are 118 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: so concerned with ending poverty and social justice making determinations 119 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: about capital flows, making determinations about supply and demand, because 120 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: they ruined this country. And I mean I speak to 121 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: I actually have some friends who are Venezuelan in the 122 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: Miami area, and you talk to them and they say, 123 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: why doesn't r why doesn't our crisis ever? I mean, 124 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: obviously the Cubans in the Miami area have been living 125 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: this situation for many decades now, but six million people 126 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: had to flee Venezuela, many of them just with the 127 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: clothing on their back, because of what has been done 128 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: in that country and because of idiotic policy decisions both 129 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: internally and externally. I just feel like there's a much 130 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: bigger story here. But we'd rather get the oil from 131 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: the evil Madua regime that help Guiana with its eleven 132 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: The only country in the world clif per Kappa that 133 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: they think has more oil than Guiana is quaint. Just 134 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: to give everyone a sense of it, that's what a 135 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: massive find it is. But it'll take some time and 136 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: that'll be a big new source of nearby secure energy 137 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: for the global market, for the US market. They don't 138 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: want it. They'd rather make the evil dictators in Venezuela 139 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: rich than actually have a capitalist ally with a longer 140 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: term horizonal fossil fuel production. Because they're crazy. I don't 141 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: know what else to because they think the earth is 142 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: gonna melt, and you know, we're gonna be undersea and 143 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: the polar bears are remember when the polar bears, We're 144 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: all gonna drown without gore. You Now, you talk to people. 145 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: We have people live in an anchorage listening to us 146 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: right now. The polar bears are everywhere. They're like squirrels. 147 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: The other aspect of this buck that is so important, 148 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: and you're talking about it from South Florida. Venezuelans are 149 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly Republican voters. Now, I love it because they more 150 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: than anybody else. You have all these Americans who are 151 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: on the left in this country saying, no, you just 152 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: don't really understand what socialism is, and the Venezuelans say, actually, 153 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: that's why we're here. We've seen what happens when a 154 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: country goes to socialism. Because to your point, Venezuela was 155 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: a very wealthy country. They were doing fantastically well in 156 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: the Latin American overall economic rankings. And now the other 157 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: thing about the inflation buck is it's been so bad 158 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: that as soon as you get any money, you feel 159 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: like you need to run out and spend it because 160 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: the next day the value is going to be so diminished. 161 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: You kind of get into that inflation death spiral where 162 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: you feel compelled to get as much value for your 163 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: money as you can, which means you have to spend 164 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: it immediately because whatever you're going to try to buy 165 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: is going to cost more the decks day or the 166 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: day after. So the last thing you want to be 167 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: doing is sitting around with that money as it continues 168 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: to depreciate based on collapsing inflation. And what is among 169 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: Venezuela's closest allies Iran? How is the Iranian regime able 170 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: to pay its security services in military, the oil revenue? 171 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: How is Venezuela's Maduro regime of thugs and imbeciles? How 172 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: are they able to pay their bills and continue to 173 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: steal from the people and oppress that you know Venezuela, man, 174 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: it was like you talk to people I haven't been 175 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: obviously because it's been a mess for the last fifteen 176 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: years or so. But it was a beautiful place with 177 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: tremendous natural resources and great people, and it has been 178 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: ruined by socialist idiocy. And if you were to ask 179 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: most kids these days who think they're really politically active 180 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: and savvy, college, high school, you name it, they have 181 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: no idea what is going on in that kind true, 182 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: because ultimately there's a sensitivity about it the Biden administration. 183 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: There are two things that collide in the Venezuela story 184 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: that mean that the regime, our regime doesn't want us 185 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: to know the truth, the fossil fuel climate change narrative, 186 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: but then also the socialism and social justice component. So 187 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: it never really get it, neverly gets attention. Cuba has 188 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: been ruined by these things. Venezuela has been ruined by 189 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: these things, and the Iranian regime, the Venezuelan regime, the Russians. 190 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: The best thing we can do to deal with those 191 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: opposition governments, perhaps even enemy governments, is to drill, baby, drill, 192 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: get as much domestic US energy production as possible, depress 193 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: the global price of oil and energy, beat them in 194 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: the marketplace with our much more efficient production. By letting 195 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: the price of gas run up, you keep Maduro putin 196 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: the Mullahs, you keep them in charge. And that used 197 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: to be actually something that people agreed on. Buck and 198 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: the Green New Deal and the aocs of the world 199 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: and the environmentalists totally took control of the Democrat Party, 200 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: and as a result, we're now having to just give 201 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: tens of billions of dollars of what would otherwise be 202 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: United States money to these petro ditater ships. Beyond a 203 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: shadow of a doubt, he asked if I had finished Dahmer. 204 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: I got two episodes into the Dahmer Show. I just 205 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: I can't do it. It's just too depressing and dark, 206 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: and like I know that evil is real and there 207 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: are evil people, I just don't. I don't know. I'm 208 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: not a true crime guy as a general thing, I 209 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: find I think true crime unsettles me much more than 210 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, even like a horror movie will scariest music 211 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: out there, the Unsolved Mysteries soundtrack like that still gives 212 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: me chills from when I was a kid. For people 213 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: who remember the Unsolved Mystery Show, like the way that 214 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: they would terrify you back in the day, I haven't 215 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: watched Dahmer. But the reason why I was asking if 216 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: you were watching is it's like the most popular show 217 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: in Netflix history. Now I can remember two behind your 218 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: What's Yes The Kids Stranger Things, UM, which is great. 219 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: I just need to go back and watch that one. 220 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: But Kerry and I were looking for something non political 221 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: last night to sort of take us out of that. Uh. 222 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: It is subtitled, so for those who are anti subtitles. 223 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: But if it's subtitled for a good reason, you know, 224 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: if it's sometimes it really actually works. It does work 225 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: better when it's something is subtitled. Um. The All Quiet 226 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: on the Western Front movie, obviously on the on the 227 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: novel is really well made about the first about It's 228 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: about Germans in the First World War on the front 229 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: lines of their Western Front. It is I think it's 230 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: better than that, I know, people getting mad at Me, 231 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: better than the nineteen seventeen movie that came out. It's 232 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: about the same period in history. That's obviously from the 233 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: from the perspective of British soldiers. I thought that was 234 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: kind of ponderous and a little um this is it 235 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: is very um, very very visceral, very realistic. Uh, it's 236 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: kind of what what saving Private Ryan did for the 237 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: Second World War in that scene that we all do 238 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: you remember that. I still remember being with my mom 239 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: in the movie theater. My mom took me to cool 240 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: movies when I was when I was a kid, she 241 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: took me to Braveheart, she took me to a saving 242 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: Private Ryan Blackhawk Down. My mom was amazing. But Clay, 243 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit like that some of the 244 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: scenes in the First World War in all qua on 245 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: the Western Front on Netflix, so I will I think 246 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: it's in theaters two in some places, but it's also 247 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: available on Netflix simultaneously. Really good. I don't know if 248 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,359 Speaker 1: you're if World War One history is something you particularly 249 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: enjoy reading about, but it's a fascinating period and it's 250 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: really well done. I must say it was a good movie. 251 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: What was the good World War One movie that came 252 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: out a few years ago, nineteen seventeen. That's what he 253 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: hadnteeneteen seventeen. Now that's all shot as one shot, which 254 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: was which was it was a cool concept. Um. It 255 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: did sort of bring you along and almost felt like 256 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: documentary style because you were following along these guys the 257 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: whole time. So I did like like that aspect of it. 258 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: But this man, I'm just gonna say, like's you could 259 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: do this with a lot of things. No matter how 260 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: bad of a day you may be having, You're not 261 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: having up to your knees in mud on, you know, 262 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: three months into your deployment to the front lines in 263 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: World War One and hoping your gas mass is close 264 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: enough bad Like it's it was rough stuff, what people 265 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: went through. That's why I always find history to be 266 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: so settling. Maybe in a way when we're constantly living 267 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: in an unsettled perspect gives perspective for sure, we've been 268 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: in so much worse positions than whatever we are in 269 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: right now. And if most people don't have any knowledge 270 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: of history, but I always say, and just as an example, 271 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: we had an election during the Civil War and during 272 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: World War Two about whether those wars would continue. So 273 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: for anybody out there who says, oh, we've never had 274 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: a situation like this or we've had to have an 275 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: election before, we heard it a lot in twenty twenty, 276 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, actually, we had an election in eighteen sixty 277 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: four and nineteen forty four in the middle of the 278 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: two biggest wars this country has ever fought and managed 279 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: to make it through those. So whatever you think about 280 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: the current tumult that we're in, things have been far 281 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: worse than this country before. Welcome back in Clay Travis 282 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I hope all of you are having 283 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: fantastic days. Our producer Ali said, you know what we 284 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: need to do. We need to get your mom and 285 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: Buck's mom on the show to answer questions from the audience. So, 286 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: for the first time ever, Jane Sexton is in studio 287 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: in New York City with her son Buck, and my mom, 288 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Liz Travis is in studio here in the Nashville area 289 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: with me. And first of all, thank you both for 290 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: being fantastic moms. And we hope that you have a 291 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: good Mother's Day weekend. And my mom is so nervous 292 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Buck to be on the radio show. I don't think 293 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: she's called in before. Are you nervous? Yeah? So so 294 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: can I can I ask your mom play the first 295 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: so we so just of her knows what we did here. 296 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: We we asked her emailed questions in and we also 297 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: took some voicemail questions in so we could uh so 298 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: we could kind of push, you know, push the questions 299 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: back and forth to our to our mom. So I'm 300 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: here in New York City with my mom Jane. Clay's 301 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 1: in Nashville with his mom Liz, And so can we 302 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: start with with Liz and first question away? Um. I 303 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: keep wanting to call her missus Travis, but she's told 304 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: me to call her Liz, So I've gotta call her Liz. Um, Liz. 305 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: This is from can she hear me? This is from 306 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: Callie in North Carolina. She wants to know what was 307 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: Clay's and then for me too, But we'll start with Clay's. 308 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: What was Clay's favorite book growing up? Okay, Oh, we can't, Clay. 309 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: We gotta get her over to your mic. We can't 310 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: actually hear her on that mic, So you know what Clay's. 311 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: That's by the way, Mike, and I should just I 312 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: should just point out, by the way, there are probably 313 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: eighteen people who worked to have a second mic to 314 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: make sure that it worked when my mom came in 315 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: studio here, and so it's par for the course that 316 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: it that it would immediately bail. So bring her over, yeah, 317 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: here to the mic. Okay, so you can ask my mom. 318 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: You could ask my mom? Go ahead, Yes, Jane, What 319 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: was Buck's favorite book when he was growing up? What 320 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: do you remember him loving to have read or read himself. 321 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: I think what really changed his whole thinking on reading 322 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: was The Three Musketeers. And he was about eight or 323 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: nine when he read that. Yeah, and then that sort 324 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: of sparked his love of reading. And then he moved 325 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: on pretty quickly to like Michael Crichton and Tom Clancy. 326 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: And he was an avid reader. So reading was has 327 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: always been a big part of Bucks. I ripped through 328 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: my mom remembers because I had all these paperbacks I 329 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: used to take to our grandparents' house of summer. I 330 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: mean I ripped through Jurassic Park, Congo Sphere, Rising Sun, 331 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: and Dramedist Strain all like, just ripped through those books. 332 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: But Alexandro Duma The Three Musketeers, that was the first 333 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: book that I ever read that wasn't assigned in school 334 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: that I just absolutely loved. So can Liz hear me now? 335 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: And can she? Oh? Now, we can't hear I don't 336 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: hear Clay at all now. So this is our mother's 337 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: back a copy She brought in a copy of the 338 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: very first book, you know, back in the day Walden books. 339 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: If you grew up in Nashville, was like the only 340 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: place you the only bookstore, right, It wasn't New York 341 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: City where you had all the Barnes and Nobles and 342 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: everything else. And so at a very young age, I 343 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: loved this book called Lookout for Pirates. And she brought 344 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: the copy of Lookout for Pirates. How many times do 345 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: you think I read this book? Mom? Well, you read 346 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: it until you memorized it. You memorize this whole book. 347 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: It's like sixty three pages long. They're like twenty words 348 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: per page. And so he was six years old. This 349 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: was really the first book that he just really read 350 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: and he memorized it, so you know, he could just 351 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: walk around just say in the book, by the way, 352 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: people love I'm sure who are listening right now. When 353 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: I was in college, Buck, I went to school in 354 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: the East Coast. When my mom would call and leave 355 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: answering machine messages, my roommates would make me save them 356 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: just so I could push and they could hear this accent. Right. So, 357 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: my mom born and raised in the South, and I'm 358 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: sure people are listening right now and saying, you know, 359 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: that is a real Southern accent, much like Julie Talbot, 360 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: who is our boss at Premier? Who is who's also 361 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: got the same accent? You know what, It's a dying art. 362 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: This voice, this voice is a dying art. So I'll 363 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: go now, we'll flip the order. So Liz Ross in 364 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: New York City wanted to know what did Clay want 365 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: to be growing up? And did you ever think he'd 366 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: become a radio host? Well? Growing up? What did you 367 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 1: want to be when you were really little? I mean, 368 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: I think every every kid who likes sports wants to 369 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: be a pro athlete. But actually we were talking earlier 370 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: about Top Gun. When Top Gun came out, I was 371 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: like six years old, Buck, I wanted to really badly 372 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: be a fighter pilot, also because of Robotech and Star Blazers, 373 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, So I think when when you know, 374 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 1: when I was super young, the idea was growing up 375 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: and being a fighter pilot. I mean, we can get 376 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: Carrie's dad to take you up in I know he 377 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: got my dream job top Gun retired, but he's he's 378 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: the real deal. Um, all right, mom, what was mom? 379 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: What did I want to be? Because this is a 380 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: weird one, this is true. When Buck was little, he 381 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: really wanted to be an animal conservationist and that's pretty specific. Yeah, no, 382 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: he was kind of an old little dude for her, 383 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: For a little kid. He was always like a wise 384 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: old soul, even at age seven. But that kind of 385 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: faded away. I realized you don't really like make money 386 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: or like that's not real. But I was like, everybody 387 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: wants to be Every girl I knew when she was 388 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: like twelve or thirteen when you're in school wanted to 389 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: be a marine biology just did that stage exists in 390 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: New York City where everybody wanted to be a lot 391 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: a lot of women wanted a lot of young women 392 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be like, you know, taking care of the dolphins. 393 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, I wanted I wanted to save the elephants 394 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: and uh and the whales. I actually think I I 395 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: think I don't. When I was a kid, um, one 396 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: of my grandparents donated in my in my name to 397 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: like this whale conservancy. So I went through this phase, 398 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: um and I don't know, and then like got interested 399 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: in girls in junior high and all of a sudden, 400 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be an animal conservationist anymore because 401 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: I want to be able to, like, you know, earn 402 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: a living um. All right, Liz, did they ever let 403 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: me hold on a second? Um? What did they ever get? 404 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Did they ever have a completely crazy idea that you 405 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: had to talk them out of? That's from Issy in Massachusetts, Liz, 406 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: you first a crazy idea you had to talk Clay 407 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: out of. Oh my gosh, I have batten Brian here, 408 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: where's that easter Benny? Um? I don't know. You know 409 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: when when they were teen nagers they rode a lot 410 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: of yards? Don't know? Yeah, we once, Uh that was 411 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: not so we would you know, it's kind of a prank. 412 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: You'd roll everybody's yard, you would toilet paper at whatever 413 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: you would call um and uh. I remember my dad 414 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: would always say, because in the South, some of those 415 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: people are crazy. Somebody's gonna shoot at you. And somebody 416 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: shot at us when we were we were senior, shot 417 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: the car twice. Uh. I mean, it's a crazy story. 418 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: I probably should tell this on the air long form 419 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: at some point with you Buck. But my parents had 420 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time saying, hey, maybe stop with 421 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: the pranks, like you're and I would always kind of say, 422 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: you're crazy. There's nothing that's gonna come from this. That's 423 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: bad and the car got shot twice, Like we could 424 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: have gotten killed for for rolling? Where te being somebody's yard? Well, 425 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: this is where I'm my This is really boring. I mean, 426 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: I asked my mom. So I tell you, I just 427 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: I never liked I'd never got into trouble. I don't 428 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: have an answer for this. I never I never got 429 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: into trouble. Was what about his brothers? How would you 430 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: so I've got three boys, Jane, where did Buck rank 431 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: in terms of difficulty of raising compared to his two 432 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: brothers and his sister? Like, how would you rank the kids? Honestly, Clay, 433 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: I got off real easy. They were all terrific. And 434 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: if people say, oh, that can't possibly be true, but 435 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: I really didn't have any issues with any of them. 436 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: They were really they were fun. No, they weren't angels, 437 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: and they weren't nerds either. They just were well balanced. 438 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Told you, you know, they really they they studied, but 439 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: they also had lots of friends and played and did 440 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: all kinds of fun things. And you know, I was 441 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: very very lucky, really really really, Mom was there for 442 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: the for the Avanca prom junior problem. Yeah, what did 443 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? For them? Why did you think Blanka 444 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: used to come by the house when we were like eighth, 445 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: ninth grade or whatever, and so she would hang out 446 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: with my mom and my dad, come and sit at 447 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: the kitchen table, and she was just just a regular girl. 448 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: The most popular thing we put on the website has 449 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: been your television commercial, Jane. So for people out there 450 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: who haven't who have seen it yet, first of all, 451 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: I think you can still go track it down at 452 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck and I believe they're also are photos 453 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: of both Buck and I when we were young that 454 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: our moms have provided. You feel like a sizeable creatium now. 455 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: But like, my head is ginormous. Did you have a 456 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: big head as as a kid or not? I think 457 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: I think I did. And honestly, I'm looking at some 458 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: of the photos my mom shared, and uh, you know, 459 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: because I've got the three boys now, it's fun to 460 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: see like I can almost see, you know, just kind 461 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: of a shadow of what the boys look like now 462 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: looking back at myself at a young age. But Jane, 463 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: what about what about this, uh this television commercial? And 464 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: then also you had an audition for an iconic movie 465 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: role that you potentially could have gotten. What was that like? 466 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: Tell people those stories. Well, okay, Well, going back to 467 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: the commercial, I used to do commercials. I worked as 468 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: an actress. I was a trained professional dancer as well, 469 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: and so this was just another job. But it was 470 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: a great job. It was a Bubble Yum commercial and 471 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: it was with Ralph Maccio before he became you know, 472 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: the big karate kid star. This is before that, and 473 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: it was just for me another It was a great job. 474 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: I had to audition like three or four times to 475 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: get it, and it was a three day shoot and 476 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: it ran a lot on Saturday morning, so that was great. 477 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: I was already married with a child at that point, 478 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: and everybody else in that commercial was probably and I 479 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: was young. I was twenty one at that time, and 480 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: everybody else was maybe sixteen or seventeen. He was a 481 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: couple of years so I was definitely the oldest in 482 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: that on that set, and uh, you know, I had 483 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: a different mindset about it for sure. And in terms 484 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: of the movie you're talking about, that was The Exorcist, 485 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: and I'm really glad that I wasn't cast in That's so, 486 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: how do you audition for The Exorcist? Did they make 487 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: you scream? Did you like what was that what was 488 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: that experience? Like, I was really just they gave you sides, 489 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: which is a script, and I just read from it. 490 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: I was quite young at the time. I was maybe eleven, 491 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I really didn't understand some of the 492 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: things that were in the script. And I'm I'm really 493 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: glad that I didn't have to deal with that and 494 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: that wasn't part of my legacy. So so so yeah, Mom, 495 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: Mom wasn't that. She was also obvious gonna say this. 496 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: She was starred in a Hallmark movie of the week, 497 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: Summer of My German Soldier, which you supporting roles. She's 498 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: always the start of me. Summer of My German should 499 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: So that was a World War Two themed a Hallmark movie. 500 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Really it's a really lovely movie. It actually is about 501 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: German POWs that were actually moved to Georgia here in 502 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: this country, and it's a true story. So it's it's 503 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: really a worthwhile movie. It actually got some awards. I 504 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: also was on a soap opera for a while, just 505 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: after my first child was born. I was on The 506 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: Doctors and that was out of NBC, and she played 507 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: Moonchild who had been in a cult. It's amazing you 508 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: learn this mom was mom had quite range, a lot 509 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: of range. I want to ask Liz when we come 510 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: back play in a second. I gotta ask Liz, because 511 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: you're the sports guy Clay. We're gonna dig into Clay's 512 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: initial sports history. What was his first sport? What was 513 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: his best sport? That's a question from producer Mark. Actually 514 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: that got into the list here. We'll come to that 515 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: in a second. We're gonna keep Clay and Bucks moms 516 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: here on the Clay and Buck Show to finish us 517 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: up for Mother's Day, So stick around more questions and 518 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: more of your We actually have some some of your 519 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: voice messages to play too. Maria from Phoenix, Arizona. My 520 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: question is for both mothers. I would like to know 521 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: what was your reaction the first time your son got 522 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: in trouble at school and what if anny punishment did 523 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: you give him? Welcome back to Clay and Buck Show. 524 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: That was one of our listeners Marie and Phoenix asking 525 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: both moms. I'm gonna pose this to Clay's mom, Liz. First, Liz, 526 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: was was Claid troublemaker? I don't know if you know this, 527 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: but your son was banned from one of the biggest 528 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: cable news networks as an adult later on. So there 529 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: might be a might be a little bit of a 530 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: street where he presses the boundaries and the rules a 531 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: little bit. When he was a little boy, was he 532 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: was he breaking rules? Did he get in trouble at school? No, 533 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: let me tell you, Clay was always the teacher's pant. Always. 534 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: He never got into trouble. He made gray days, He 535 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: never got into trouble. Just perfect kid. I mean he was, 536 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean he was such a good kid. And at 537 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: home we never knew he was a round because he 538 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: was always reading, just reading and reading. But when he 539 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: would watch the UT football game and they would lose, 540 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: now he would be a door slammer. Wow, around slamming 541 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: out of doors. That's that's been around a lot of cursing. 542 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: She once told me, this is the University of Tennessee 543 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: which I grew up. Herd, my mom's dad, my grandfather 544 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: played for General Neelon. But she I remember after one 545 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: particularly tough loss, Uh, you you said, hey, you're not 546 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna be in harrd to Sorry to disparage Tennessee football 547 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: fans here, but you're not going to be the kind 548 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: of fan who grows up and beats his wife when 549 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: the when your favorite team loses, which honestly sometimes happens 550 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: in the South. So I'll take Maria's question here to 551 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: to my mom and we'll make it short because I 552 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be boring. I mean, I mean, mom, 553 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: I was. I was the president of the school. Like 554 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think there are a lot of the 555 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: way a couple of nerds. Yeah, president of his senior class. Yes, 556 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of similarities here between 557 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck something, and that's why they grew up 558 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: to be radio hosts. I think I was. I was 559 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: the one who when my friends would get arrested for 560 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: fake IDs or underage drinking, would would try to like either, 561 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: we would try to convince the officer not to arrest them. 562 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: Like I was the one they called on to be like, 563 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: excuse me, sir, that officer, that's not a marijuana cigarette 564 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: my friend has. Like I was that sixteen year old, 565 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, So that was my role. Um. But yeah, anyway, 566 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Liz sports, What was Clay's first sport? What 567 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: was his best sport? Well, when you grew up in 568 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: the South, you have to play baseball, you have to 569 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: play that, and he played that until he was maybe ten, 570 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: and then he kind of dropped out. And when we 571 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: went to high school played soccer and he made one goal, right, 572 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 1: I scored a goal from mid midfield. That's probably my 573 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: all time sports highlight. Buck. I was a I was 574 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: a fullback and I caught one literally at the midfield 575 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: and popped it over the goalie who had gotten out 576 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: too far. So that that is my high school sports highlight. 577 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: Very nice, like the Maldini if you will of there, 578 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: you go go back there at Eddie soccer fans. Mom, 579 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean you can answer the same question. This is 580 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: my mom now, Jane Oh. I'd say that Buck actually 581 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: was quite good at basketball when he was young, and 582 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: I think you were like MVP at one of the tournaments, yes, 583 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: one of the big city tour into school tournaments, very well. 584 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: And then he played soccer in high school and then 585 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: went on to coach soccer because he had in a 586 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, an ability and he's actually a very good 587 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: tennis player. And another thing about Buck's kind of interesting 588 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: is that he had an interest when he was young 589 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: in Capuera, which is an Afro Brazilian martial art, and 590 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: that was kind of unusual, kind of walk on my 591 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: hands and do kip ups and do all these things 592 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: when I was in the grade because I wanted to 593 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: be good at capewara. I can't believe my mom even 594 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: remembers that, but that's amazing. I wanted to classes. I 595 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: was the youngest kid in the class. People are probably 596 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: googling this, what the heck is capalwara? But true story. Yeah, 597 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: I went with him because I was worried. I was 598 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: worried I was going to break my neck, but I didn't. 599 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: I was okay quickly. For both the moms. The question 600 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: that is out there and I can't even see who 601 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: asked it, who would you like to see us interview 602 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: that we haven't already? My mom first, and then Jane, 603 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: you hop in I'd like to see you interview my 604 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: musk elon must moms. Yes, that's pretty awesome, Um, I 605 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: would say, Um Thomas soul I'm I'm a big fan 606 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: of his and good one. Answers for them answers, Liz 607 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: honored to meet you. Thank you so much. Clay's mom 608 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: and my mom Jane love you. We love our moms 609 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: to all the moms out there,