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Speaker 1: the twenty Men in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft.

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Speaker 1: And it is Week twelve of the NFL season. You

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Speaker 1: know what that means. It is Thanksgiving week for the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I am here with Ben Raven does a

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Speaker 1: great job with Kyle Mike for m Live covering everything

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions and Thanksgiving Week is always a fun week,

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Speaker 1: right Ben. And for Detroit it's Turkey Day. It's the

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Speaker 2: No, it's a special day. And I'm thankful for my

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Speaker 2: You know, this this year was kind of like looking

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Speaker 2: looking forward to that Ford Field crowd tomorrow Thursday. Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: so I asked.

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Speaker 3: I've got it doing these these things. It seems like

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Speaker 1: It was funny. I had so many comments when Taylor

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Speaker 1: you say, is the Benito Jones style?

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Speaker 4: My style?

432
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,440
Speaker 5: So that's I mean, that's pretty much my style right there.

433
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Speaker 5: You know, yeah, that's very you know, simple right there.

434
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Speaker 5: That's all I do. I don't address up. I ain't

435
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,760
Speaker 5: too fancy. I'm just old comfort ball.

436
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Speaker 1: It seems like that fits here a little bit like lunch, pale,

437
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 1: hard work, you know, wake up early, go to bed late.

438
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean, does does this does this city does? I

439
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,360
Speaker 1: know you're a country guy, southern guy, but but that mentality,

440
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,880
Speaker 1: that Detroit style seems to fit what you do. Are

441
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 1: you good fit here?

442
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

443
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 5: I think I'm a great fit here. You know, it's

444
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 5: just the mindset I think, you know, the organization is

445
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 5: that we haven't right now. It's all about hall work

446
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 5: and being dedicated to what we're doing right now, and

447
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,720
Speaker 5: you know that's just one week at a time, and

448
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Speaker 5: it's being relentless on what we're doing.

449
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 1: Speaking of relentless and getting it done, you guys showed

450
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Speaker 1: last week against the Bears that you can win in

451
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Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. Just how important is that, Benito?

452
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 1: You had to shoot out the week before this one.

453
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Speaker 1: You don't play your basketball, but you still win. Is

454
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Speaker 1: that important for a team to to to show itself

455
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Speaker 1: that it can win in a lot of different ways

456
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Speaker 1: because it is a week to week league and you're

457
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Speaker 1: gonna have to win games like that, right.

458
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a it's very important, you know.

459
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Speaker 5: Uh As a team, you know, we didn't want to

460
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Speaker 5: be in that position. You know, we would have liked

461
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 5: to just you know, won that game without any you know,

462
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 5: second chances, third chance of trying to win that game.

463
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Speaker 5: And you know, we had a few adversities and you know,

464
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 5: we just stayed together as a team because we we

465
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 5: knew what we were capable of doing. And you know,

466
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Speaker 5: just just uh that game, You know that that game

467
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 5: just showed a lot that you know, we're just you know,

468
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 5: going to compete to the you know, last second on

469
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Speaker 5: the clock.

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Speaker 1: You got a bunch of defensive stops in that game.

471
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Speaker 1: Just how how much is that defensive line coming together?

472
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Speaker 1: And you guys playing a lot better. You've been terrific

473
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,239
Speaker 1: all year against the run. Hutch was able to end it.

474
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Speaker 1: Like I said, you had those big stops. Just that

475
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Speaker 1: front seems to be coming together. Leam's playing really good

476
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: ball right now, You're playing good ball. Do you have

477
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 1: sense that it's kind of coming all together right now?

478
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Speaker 4: Yeah? For sure.

479
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Speaker 5: You know we up front, you know, we take care

480
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Speaker 5: of each other. You know, we we want to stop

481
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Speaker 5: and run rush the passer. And you know, Matt doing

482
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 5: really well and rushing him in Hutch, and you know,

483
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 5: we we're playing really good ball up front collectively, and

484
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Speaker 5: you know we're just trying to get out to the quarterback.

485
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Speaker 1: What do you say your strength, what do you bring

486
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Speaker 1: to the table up front, and how does your skill

487
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Speaker 1: set mixing well with with Hutch? And a Lean and

488
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Speaker 1: some of the other guys on the other side on

489
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Speaker 1: the edge.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, especially in the run, you know, just

491
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 4: being a double team.

492
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Speaker 5: You know, big guy like me, you know, the one

493
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Speaker 5: person you know it's gonna be a little trouble and

494
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 5: try to block me. So you know, try to get

495
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 5: in one on one blocks and you know how fast

496
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 5: Hutch and a Lean and Pascal Hills on the edges,

497
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Speaker 5: so you know, just try to get eliminate most double

498
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Speaker 5: teams we can.

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Speaker 1: You're the guy that does something a lot of the

500
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Speaker 1: dirty work, and that just kind of fits, right.

501
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Speaker 4: I see, you got to wear a hard head.

502
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you a little bit about

503
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Speaker 1: off the field because I think it's very interesting. You

504
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: grew up, like I said that down south. You have

505
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,239
Speaker 1: a trucking company, right, I mean you have nine to

506
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: five farms, which is huge. I mean you buy cows

507
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I mean, just tell me a

508
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: little bit about what you do in the off season

509
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Speaker 1: and how much that's a passion of yours.

510
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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean my season.

511
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Speaker 5: You know, when when I get back and I want

512
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Speaker 5: to be around my kids. But you know, I drive

513
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Speaker 5: a truck when I'm home. But you know that that's

514
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 5: a big passion. You know, I love to work on

515
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 5: the field, but when I get off the field, I

516
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 5: don't worry about the field no more. I try to

517
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 5: worry about the things that I love to do away

518
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 5: from the field. And you know that's farming and being

519
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 5: a father, being around my family, and you know, just

520
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 5: you know, actually just seeing myself like running my own

521
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 5: business one day. You know, I never saw that coming.

522
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 5: And I always saw my dad. He drove a truck,

523
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Speaker 5: a low truck as.

524
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Speaker 4: Well, and uh, I always you know, watched him do it.

525
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: I didn't never wanted to do it.

526
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 5: I just wanted to hunt. And yeah, he passed away

527
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 5: my freshman year in college, and I just you know,

528
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 5: the things he had always wanted I got him now.

529
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 4: I made sure I had him. I got him.

530
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 5: And that's like, you know, tractors with calves, and uh,

531
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 5: we couldn't afford cab tractors at the time, so I

532
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 5: got you know, I bought a Cab tractors, new new

533
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 5: Duly trucks and stuff like that, and uh, you know,

534
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 5: and that that kind of stuff, right, they just drives

535
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 5: me to like, you know, show my father, you know,

536
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 5: he'll be proud of me, you know for like doing

537
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 5: what we always talked.

538
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: About, your way of paying it forward a little bit.

539
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 4: That's it?

540
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Speaker 1: How much is it is that? That that that lifestyle,

541
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: that off the field stuff so important to you to

542
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: give you just a little bit of balance to and

543
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: to get away, you know, and have the peace of

544
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: mind of football. Here you're here every day, right, it's grind,

545
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: it's eighteen weeks. It's all about ball. But you got

546
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: to have kind of that thing that you do that

547
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: you can get away from the game, recharge the batteries

548
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. Is that the way that you recharge

549
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: a little bit?

550
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like you know, Thursday games, you get to go

551
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 5: home Friday, Saurday, Sunday.

552
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Speaker 4: You know, I make sure I go back home and

553
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 4: I enjoy my.

554
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 5: Family, my time and that right there, like brains, you know,

555
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 5: football to like just an end for a second, you know,

556
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 5: just get it off my mind just for you know

557
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 5: a little while, because like you know, you burn yourself

558
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 5: out on it, you know, you you know you'll be

559
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 5: in a dark place. Yeah, So you know, I just

560
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 5: try to balance it well. Anytime I get you know,

561
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 5: I try to go back home, be around my family

562
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 5: and my kids.

563
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: Hold the kids how how six and five?

564
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: Six and five? So that's a good age. Now they're

565
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: just starting to get into sports doing some of the

566
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: those things. Are they they football players?

567
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 4: She plays softball, My little boy playing football.

568
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: Football and softball. I want to talk about Ford Field

569
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: a little bit and just what that atmosphere has been,

570
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: Like it's going to be crazy on Thursday again like

571
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: it has been. These fans have been traveling. Just how

572
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: much of a home field advantage does that give you guys?

573
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: And do you talk about that amongst yourselves a little

574
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: bit when you start to look at the bigger picture

575
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: in the NFC and wanting to, you know, play games

576
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: at Ford Field because of that advantage.

577
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 4: Oh, I think we got a heck of a crowd.

578
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 4: You know. You know, I ain't gonna lie. You know,

579
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 4: the brain chields over me.

580
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 5: Uh you know, you know Ford Field is like, you know,

581
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 5: it's a really good atmosphere.

582
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: The fan.

583
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 5: Like the DJ, he keep you into the game, like

584
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 5: you know, it's just never a dull moment, you know,

585
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 5: and you know, just just playing in Ford Field, you know,

586
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 5: just you know it'll be a good one and then

587
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 5: you know it's a Thursday night game on Thanksgiving, so

588
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 5: you know everybody gonna be full of dressing in turkey

589
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 5: if you watching the game.

590
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: How loud does it really get on the field because

591
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: you play defense obviously, so I mean it's at its peak.

592
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: Just could you maybe put it into words just how

593
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: deafening it might get when you're fourth quarter of a

594
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: close game against Chicago, you guys are down by five points,

595
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: you need that stop. Just how loud that was with

596
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: two some minutes left on Sunday, that.

597
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 5: Stop, like the stop that we had when they had

598
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 5: the ball like two minutes and when we were steal down.

599
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: Like that stought was loud.

600
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 5: But the stop that was like really really caught mynd

601
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: that game when Hutch had this script sack, oh yeah,

602
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 5: and did turn it too a safety?

603
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 4: Yeah? That that thing was rocking.

604
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: So do we have when when Benito strips the ball

605
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: it's a big sack, you score a touchdown, do you

606
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: have something in mind, some kind of celebration, some kind

607
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: of dance.

608
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 4: I'm probably looking for aving a pumping, I gotta run

609
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: through the.

610
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: That is such a mento answer. Green Bay on Thursday

611
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: playing a little bit better ball of late offensively They've

612
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: been pretty explosive with some big plays. Dan talked about

613
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: that being important this week, just your preparation on a

614
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: short week for them and the challenge that they pose

615
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: on Thursday.

616
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 5: You know what we you know, what we gotta do

617
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 5: is just rest our bodies mentally and physically, you know,

618
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 5: just be locked in on small things. Yeah, and you

619
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 5: know it's gonna be a good game Thurs. Green Bay

620
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 5: playing really well. The quarterback he's a really good athlete

621
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 5: and he can beat you with his legs. You know,

622
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 5: just got to keep him contained and then making good plays.

623
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: Well. It should be a fun one. Happy Thanksgiving to you,

624
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: to your family. I know you get to go home afterwards.

625
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: You're enjoying that, get to get away a little bit.

626
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: Hopefully you're getting away at nine and two with a big,

627
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: big win. Bedeo, thanks for taking the time out after share.

628
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Thank you