1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: The volume, Molly, Okay, if I picked the song to 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: start the episode today, sure, Rory. 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Spinning through them with the fortune like say, Jack, you'll 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: pump your break scratched. 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: I only spin it for y'all and. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 4: Niggas like my nigga. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: Mall eating space back y'all niggas fumped. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 4: Me a fit. 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Why didn't you tell us that Beans rapped about that situation? 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: Because I don't. I don't know if that was about that, all. 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Right, rap genius, tell how else could that bar be taken? 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 5: I'm just saying I don't know. I mean, if you 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 5: want me to make it about me, sure, no, make it. 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: I didn't make it about you. Beans made it about you. 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, probably, but that was so long ago, ok, 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 5: I can't remember. 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: I just cannot believe that you've held all this information 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: from us for so long. For those that didn't listen 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: to our last episode, Maul explained the time that he 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: ate way too many weed brownies, Oh my god, and 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: then Beanie Siegull called to him, I. 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 5: Got anxiety talking about it, like I started getting the 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 5: shakes just talking about that. 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: BINGI c called you space cakes. And then what does 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: he say in this verse? Space What space packs? Okay, 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: you what a whole pack? Wasn't even mister Brownie, it 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: felt like a pack. When was the first time you 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: heard heard your name over the airwaves? 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: First time ever? 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: When did you hear this song? 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: Oh? 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: Were you in the studio when they do this? 33 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: Nah? I mean, I don't know. That was what two thousand, 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: two thousand and one. 35 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: Two thousand and two, I think that was. 36 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I heard so much music I 37 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: can't remember. 38 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 5: But that's why when we were talking about what came out, 39 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 5: whether it was The Blueprint or Dynasty, you hear songs 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 5: getting recorded in two thousand comes out in two thousand 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 5: and one. 42 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Ah, you're one of those like, oh you finally hearing this. 43 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: Glad the world can finally hear this record. 44 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: I mean, anybody that's in the studio feels like that 45 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: after you hear a song for. 46 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Oh, y y'all finally hearing that. Yeah, it just came 47 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: out today with. 48 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 3: That old thing, like yeah, we want something new right now. 49 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: I also find it funny that like Beans, Beans only 50 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: does this rap shit for you, Like he only spits 51 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: it from all. Maybe I'm the only one that found 52 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: that baring alaryos that. 53 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: Why is that that funny? 54 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: Because beans, just doing this ship for you is funny. 55 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: That's not what he said, Like he really got into 56 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: this rap shit, like just to do it for you. 57 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 6: Y'all. 58 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: First, so you completely deleted that bar. 59 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: Wait so you're not y'all? No, it's just you and 60 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: then them. 61 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: Well, I could be included in, y'all. I'm allt of y'all. 62 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: I guess it depending on who's talking. 63 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: Yo. 64 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: That's that's hilarious. I'm gonna make that your ringtone like 65 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: when you call ring tones back. No, but I'm sure 66 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: I could make it somehow on my phone. 67 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 6: Okay, they still got ring tones, You can still get 68 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 6: ring tones. 69 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: Having your phone ring period, to me is weird. Like whoever, 70 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: whoever has their. 71 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 5: Only thing worse than your phone ringing is when your 72 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 5: phone doesn't ring but it does that crazy flash shit. 73 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 5: Oh yes, I hate that, Like that is the crazies 74 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 5: shit ever to. 75 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Have your phone you're a psychopath? 76 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: You have that? 77 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, that that might trigger I don't even have seizures, 78 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 5: but that might that might trigger a seizure for me. 79 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: You know, you know what group of people we should 80 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: place on an island The people. 81 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 6: That are. 82 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: That because I could have answered that for you. 83 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: We were doing so good. 84 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: I didn't. 85 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: I didn't so good everything. 86 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 5: Answered it for you. But then you answered it, you know, 87 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 5: I mean you just went ahead because you was like you. 88 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: Know the people that are on the speaker auxiliary bluetooth 89 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: that keep their phone on loud too, like you gave 90 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: when they got a text yes, yeah, and then just 91 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: keep letting it rock like it's no. 92 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: That's when you just go and just take their phone 93 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: and just unplug it. 94 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: No, unplugged, get out of my house. 95 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you on that. 96 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: But how's your week? 97 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: Ben? 98 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: I've seen you every day this week, Rory. How do 99 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: you think my week is? 100 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. Yeah, coffee has me jittery. I'm I'm I'm exhausting. 101 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: Productive though productive week, busy but productive. I love busy, 102 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: productive weeks. 103 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: I've been kind of outside too. On top of us 104 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: being so busy, I look at its being out these streets. 105 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, never mind all the beans state property. Like, let's 106 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 5: talk about you and Draymond Green and Steph Curry. Let's 107 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: talk hanging out with the mono warriors. It I told 108 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: you it was a man warrior went out with them people. 109 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 5: Why are you saying like that? No, not like that, 110 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: but like the people. 111 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 6: That he named, the people that he named, you went 112 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 6: out with those people. 113 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: I went to Draymond Green's birthday? 114 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 6: Did that happen? 115 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: When was that Tuesday night? 116 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: I love when you do that, when you scratch your 117 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: scalp like you don't know. 118 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 6: He lying, it's been a busy week. 119 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: I can't remember it was Monday. 120 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: I think it was Tuesday. 121 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: We recorded with Lexi Tuesday, so yeah, that was Tuesday. Listen. 122 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: He's our label mate. So you know, I just wanted 123 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: to go out shout out to Draymond. 124 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Draymond Green. 125 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: So after we had Lexi on the pod available now great, 126 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: great conversation Lexi Brown. 127 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: Shout out to Lexi Brown. 128 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: So her and I went to the birthday party. I 129 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: must be pussy like I have to be. Me and 130 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Lexi are sitting there kicking it kind of by the 131 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: DJ boost, chilling, having a good time. An NBA player 132 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: that I will not name, walks up to us, boxes 133 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: me out in whispers in Lexi's ear, Yo, I love 134 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: your game. 135 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: I did. 136 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't with Lexi, but I could have. 137 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: Been yeah, but don't you don't know that. 138 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 6: He don't know that. 139 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, nah, well he's sixty five sixty six. No, he 140 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: was the point guard. Okay, so six four tall than me, 141 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: but that's, you know, not that difficult. He could probably 142 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: he probably didn't see you. This is the elevation was. 143 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: It was just her and I, right, did you stand up? No, 144 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: we were standing. 145 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: Up, damn standing up and he still couldn't see. 146 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: You, and like we were like this, and then he 147 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: just kind of moved his shoulder in and then whispering there. 148 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, she's not with me, but you could 149 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: have at least like checked first. 150 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 6: Did she giggle? 151 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say what her reaction was because it 152 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: wasn't favorable. And it was kind of funny because we 153 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: talked about how men approach her on the actual episode, 154 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: so to see that shit in person and like dudes 155 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: only complimenting her game as a way to try to 156 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: hit on her, it was one of the funniest things. 157 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 158 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 5: He saw you trying to set a screen. He just 159 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: got over the screen. That's all he saw you. You're 160 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 5: trying to set a screen. He was like, watch out, man, 161 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 5: I'm getting over that. Get over that easy. 162 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: No, I was really I was not mad because I 163 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: had no right to be. But I started thinking, oh, 164 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: I must be pussy like how confidently he did not 165 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: give a fuck about me standing there talking to her 166 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: was like, all right, man, I have to air this 167 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: ship out. 168 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 5: The energy, the body language probably wasn't that of people 169 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 5: that are in a relationship or you know, you probably 170 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: felt the just friends. 171 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: Energy and trying to say me and like you could 172 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: never have chemistry. I mean you didn't feel it during 173 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: the episode. No, that's crazy, it's tangible. 174 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 6: Did you put your Sunday's Best on? Though? When Sunday's 175 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 6: Best is crazy? When you got on, they said, damn, 176 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 6: you got that ship on. Let me not have that 177 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 6: ship on. This is more dressed up than I was 178 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 6: dressed up with. You wear a T shirt everywhere else. 179 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 6: I had a T shirt on underneath a little The 180 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 6: match said, have been shirtless. You had a little matches 181 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 6: if I showed them shirt episode. 182 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: You gotta go shirtless under this, under the track suit. 183 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 6: That's what you gotta do. You gotta show the chest. 184 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 6: He said, you cross your legs. They said, you don't 185 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 6: never cross your legs in that cheer. They said you 186 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 6: had your legs crossed. 187 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said, first of all, with that couch, it's tough, 188 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: like because you kind of like dip into it, and 189 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: the only way to get comfortable. Wait, first of all 190 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: is like leg crossing is supposed to. 191 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like this, that's the thing body language. 192 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 5: If your leg has crossed the same way that her 193 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 5: leg is, that's what means that. 194 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: It's it's no, it's a real thing. 195 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: An NBA player noticed that because y'all was standing, you 196 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: didn't have your legs cross up like that. Yeah, you 197 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: should have been like a flamingo, like a karate kid 198 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: me doing crane kicks at Draymond Green's barty. 199 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 5: That's what you should have been doing, practicing your crane. 200 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 5: That's your problem. 201 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: Now, if you practice practice, you are you can see 202 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: in the dark exactly exactly. And we we uh. We 203 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: interviewed another player for Don't Know Balls, you know Banking 204 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: some episodes and we discussed Chris Mullen for like most 205 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: of the episode. 206 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: Shout out to the legend, the legend Chris Mullin and 207 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: New York City legend. 208 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: You know, you know, my social anxiety whatever, I just 209 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: i'd be kind of out the mix in the mix. 210 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: So I found a nice cozy spot after I got 211 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: boxed the funk out and lost the lector. 212 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: Had to go find your pride. 213 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you want to go find your pride in a 214 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 5: bottle of whiskey? 215 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, I get it. 216 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: Don Julio. Yeah, So I go to the bar. Happens 217 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: to be another white person there. We make eye contact. 218 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: It's just an understanding two Republicans. Yeah, I get it, 219 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: I understand. I know what type of nat We had 220 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: some thoughts we weren't gonna say out loud, but we 221 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: both we we both knew yeah, and we just got 222 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: the talking, you know, hit it off in like a 223 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: man way. As I leaving, my friend was like, oh, 224 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, you know what that was, right, I was like, no, no, idea, 225 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: it's Chris Mullen's son. I was like, dog, we just 226 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: talked about him for two hours. Yeah, fucking five minutes ago. Yeah, 227 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: that was the weirdesthit in the world for me. 228 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: That's the that's the that's the universe. You know. 229 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 5: You put that put that energy out and to find 230 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 5: you Chris Mullen's son found. Yeah, Chris Mullins manifested the 231 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: moment he found he found you, Okay, well you. 232 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Been outside too, what are you talking about? Didn't you 233 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: go somewhere last night? 234 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 5: I went home, I got invited. Uh Vonna hit me 235 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 5: and invited me to uh what's that Girl's low karaoke? 236 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: Is that the name of it? 237 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great party. 238 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 3: So he invited me to that. 239 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 5: But it was rain, it was pooring, it was nasty 240 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 5: outside last night. I was like, nah, it's nothing worse 241 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 5: than having to walk to the spot and he going 242 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 5: in and everything is your jacket is wet, And. 243 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: I was like, nah, I just wasn't feeling that. 244 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Draymond's party. I hadn't really been like 245 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: outside outside in a little bit. I feel bad for 246 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: these young guys. 247 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: Man. 248 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: The new hoes are boring as fucked Like they're just boring. 249 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: When you say boring, what do you mean? 250 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: Like they literally just sit there and look pretty. They 251 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: offer nothing. Remember when hoes used to be fun, like 252 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: ho would get a party started. H They just they 253 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: literally just sit there. 254 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: That's because they only speak Zell. You got you ain't 255 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: speaking Zell. 256 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That's how you got to 257 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: introduce yourself. My name is Zelle and yours listen. 258 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: I probably should go to more NBA parties like that, 259 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: because all the hoes just think I'm like one of 260 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: their lawyers or something like, oh, he must be he 261 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: must be Draymond's manager. 262 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, put that vibe in a room 263 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: foot ball player. 264 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 6: Weren't they young? Hose though? 265 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? Now, well twenty four twenty five is young. 266 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were definitely early twenties. Fifth and of course 267 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: you know Draymond and Steph far away from the hose. Yeah, 268 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: hose weren't getting they know, Steph Curry walked in with 269 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: a mink on. 270 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: Gangster like that period in the Rain, Yes, gangster like that. 271 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: I never thought I thought Steph Curry was going to 272 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: be like in this jersey. I could never picture him 273 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: and like clothes outside he was. 274 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 5: Under like exactly, Steph being a club underrest. 275 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: Any guy that doesn't even get a shape up for 276 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: his wedding. I could never picture going to a party 277 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: in a mick. 278 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 5: I mean after you finished doing what he did in 279 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 5: the Guard on Tuesday night, Yeah, I mean you have 280 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 5: to show up to Draymond's birthday with a mink on 281 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 5: it's only right. 282 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was a little a little bitter 283 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: even being in there. I kind of felt like somewhat 284 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: of a trader. But why listen, man, I'm the Knicks. 285 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 5: He owns the Knicks, and me he owns the New York. 286 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 5: New York is steps like he lost one time I 287 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: think in the guard. 288 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: Really in his basketball he's won every single time in 289 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: his basketball career. 290 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: Davidson included he's lost one time. 291 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: And Davidson included his great in. 292 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: Madison, He's lost one time in Madison Square Guarden. He's 293 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: like thirteen and one to think it something like that. 294 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: That's wold crazy. Oh then yeah, I mean I'm definitely trader, 295 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: and I couldn't be seen next time the regular night 296 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: for Steph Man. 297 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 6: Where were you last night when the gang was outside? Though? 298 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 6: Because I was waiting on you it's going on. 299 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 5: Well we oh you didn't pull up on. I thought 300 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 5: you was pulling up on ganging them. 301 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Nah, because our meeting went over and Marlon Craft had 302 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: had his residency. 303 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: Oh yes, shout out. 304 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: That was, by the way, incredible. If you can make 305 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: Marlon's residency, it's what I feel like. The New York 306 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: music scene has been missing for quite some time. Actual 307 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: live fucking music people actually rapping, like just jam session fans, 308 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: like a real unity. It was. Yeah, it felt like 309 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: New York and shit felt like village underground Sundays. I 310 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: forgot the name of the venue. It's in Alphabet City, 311 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: and I feel bad because the venue was fucking fire. 312 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe I had never even heard of it 313 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: or that new show. It's a new venue, not it's 314 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: been around forever. That's what I was asking for. I'll 315 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: find it maybe maybe posted. But it was great. I can't. 316 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: I can't say enough of how good that show is. 317 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: Bam Blue, New Blue, Yeah, yes. 318 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: Oh New Blues. 319 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, my man, my man for Docman telling me 320 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 5: about New Blue because they do jam sessions in there. 321 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 5: They have like a lot of producers going in on Mondays. 322 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's what the manager was telling me that, 323 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: like right after the show. 324 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, my man, Docman telling me to slide through. I gotta, 325 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 5: I gotta, I gotta go check it out with him. 326 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: And now he sent me a video. It looked like 327 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: a vibe in there. Oh I'm definitely down. You know, 328 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: that's my type of ship. But you know, Marlon smoked 329 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: that ship. It was it was a really fun, fun 330 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: fucking time. So shout out to malin Man highly suggests 331 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: people go to that. But yeah, that's like back to 332 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: back to back nights out. And then I mean I 333 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: hit the Maris after the show. I was helping her 334 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: and you Alma was still in the streets, but. 335 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 6: She was home in my bed. 336 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: There's nothing like going I figured Yomi had her out. 337 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 6: Now Yomi went to another spot. I went home. I'm 338 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 6: not running. I'm not playing with Yomi. Ass like I 339 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 6: went home. 340 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 5: Yomi outside they moved. When they moved to the A, 341 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 5: by myself. 342 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 6: You tried it. I went by myself. What did I try? 343 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 6: I had to go upload ram radio or do ram 344 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: radio and go to sing. 345 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah that's what you had to go home and work 346 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 3: and go to sleep that ram that ram. 347 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Do get rams. 348 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 6: But it was nic seeing Yom Yomi was. She told 349 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 6: me to tell y'all how end she's doing. 350 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: Well, you don't even text a nigga no more. See 351 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 3: how they do move to the A and just of 352 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: that's how it goes though. Yeah, man, it's all good. 353 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: And I go to the A. I'm gonna just post 354 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: mad pictures in Atlanta. Not hit Yomy at all. 355 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: She's gonna keep scrolling past single now you don't go ahead. 356 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: I kind of felt away. Was it yesterday two days 357 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: ago when Yomi text you to tell what's up? 358 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: Like? 359 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm right, which she want to say? What's up to me? 360 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 6: It's crazy you sex her and say what up to her? 361 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 6: Looion reaches out? You reach out? 362 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean I don't like to just you want people like. 363 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna start started on. I'm gonna be like, yo, 364 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 5: what's so? Why are you don't like say what's up? 365 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 5: Say hello when you come to the city. 366 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 6: No more? 367 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: What's going on with you? 368 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: Yo? 369 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: I don't like that. 370 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 6: She says she might slide through today, but I don't know. 371 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 6: She was out drinking last night, so I doubt she 372 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 6: said that yesterday. But I don't think she's still sleep. 373 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: You almost can hang in Atlanta. Last time we were there, 374 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: only hung with us till like three o'clock in the morning. 375 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 5: You're telling me that's what me peag You know, we 376 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 5: was all in the lobby and Peach gave us a 377 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 5: fucking show. 378 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: He was the magician for the night. 379 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: That ship was so completely forgot did we ever talk 380 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: about that on that episode? 381 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: Yes, we did. Yo. 382 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 5: When I went up to the room, I was still 383 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: laughing at Peach. I'm like, Yo, he just a fucking 384 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 5: idiot man. He had those bers. 385 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: Gotten full characters. 386 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yo, we have. 387 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: To have a magician on the pod. 388 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: See we do have one p he made. He made 389 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: the nick bit. 390 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: Right, He'll have to multitize then, did you see? 391 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 6: Uh? 392 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I forgot what the magician's name was. I feel bad. 393 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: But he just did a segment with Taylor Rooks and 394 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: he threw like all the cars on the ground or whatever, 395 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: shuffled them and then took out her phone number with 396 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: each card. Like I'm starting to believe, like like magic 397 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: might actually be real. 398 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: That's crazy, Like it's not. 399 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: Just you know, if I see something like that, I 400 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 5: might be like, you know what, that was crazy. I 401 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 5: might be on board, Like I might be on board 402 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: with certain certain magicians, like because to see somebody do 403 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 5: that is like you have to explain to me how 404 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 5: you did that or I'm gonna believe that you're just 405 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 5: a sorcerer. Absolutely, you have to break that. What was 406 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: the mass dude name that reveals all the magic? Massic 407 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 5: Mass magician has to he has to reveal how that's done. 408 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: You have to tell me how you do that. 409 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: What is what is it about magic that makes black 410 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: people run? 411 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: Like? 412 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: Why is that your immediate reaction when trick happens? 413 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 6: We run when we're entertained. 414 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: That's why we run for anything. We run when we're scared. 415 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 5: We wont we run when you run fair? Yeah, like 416 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 5: we just run, we're runners. 417 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: That's always it's always fun to watch black people watch. 418 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 7: Magic, magic Johnson or like magic because magic as well, 419 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 7: Magic Johnson because you got to see it when we 420 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 7: watch the show Tom Lake as we go crazy. 421 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: We've talked about what careers we would have liked to 422 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: have besides this. I think I had set a chef, 423 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: but a magician would definitely be up there. Being a 424 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: magician would be cool as shit, Like job, you really 425 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: knew how to do magic, that's definitely cool. Yeah, I'm 426 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: just saying, if you know, if you could do that 427 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: with Taylor's number, like you could throw a deck of 428 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: cars and for him pick up the number, it would 429 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: be more impressive. And he just picked up his phone 430 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: and called her. That's the real magic. Like we say, 431 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: we say that, but I don't know. You can find 432 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: anything on the internet these days. Maybe he subscribes to 433 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: like Yellow Pages or some shit. 434 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: That's magic. Subscribing to Yellow Pages is magic. 435 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: That's a monthly subscriptions. He could get tailor's number. 436 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: That's crazy as hell. 437 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: You'll be super funny if he just wasn't a magician 438 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: at all. He's just seen tailors like, yo, magician, let 439 00:16:59,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: me get your number. 440 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy, But we got to find out who 441 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 5: is that? You don't remember his name? 442 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 3: Did she post it? 443 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 4: Uh? 444 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 6: No, I was looking for it. I can't find it. 445 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes like they just be putting ship on 446 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: your feet of things you don't even follow. I think 447 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: it was one of those. But no, I would definitely 448 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: want to have a magician on this podcast. I'll do 449 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 1: a whole segment with a magician. Yea, we should get 450 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: we should get a magician on. 451 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 452 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: I can't find it. Damn, I'm doing so bad with 453 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: plugging shit today. Kid can't find the venue name, can't 454 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: find this magician. But you know, yeah, oh GS Magic, GS. 455 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: Magic, GS Magic. We would love. 456 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: To have you on the show. Yeah, you're not you're 457 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: not jacking that GS. 458 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 3: He gotta get a better magician name that is. 459 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 6: His name is George Stanton, So George Stanton magic, but 460 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 6: his name is George George Stanton. 461 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: Stance sounds like a magician. 462 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking accountant. 463 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: Well yeah that too. Well those are magicians as well. 464 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: Listen. 465 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 3: They know how to make a lot of things disappeared 466 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: through the exel sheets. 467 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: Lloy on the grade over there, you don't put that on? 468 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 6: Does everything above the book of course? 469 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, he legally makes things disappeared. Yeah, that's 470 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: really all it was. 471 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: I loved Matt. I loved Ben Affleck in that movie. 472 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: Which movie they're counting? 473 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 474 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: Part two is coming out? So is it really? Yeah? 475 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: I'm excited for that. 476 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: Did he just spend the block again? 477 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 5: Nobody said he would. He said, he said, if if 478 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 5: he could get another chance with Jennifer Gardner, he would. 479 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 6: Oh that's oh Jennifer Garner. 480 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 5: Say yo, Ben is going crazy. He spun twice on him, 481 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: didn't he He's trying to spend. 482 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: A third time. 483 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: I've given Jlo a lot of shit of her maybe 484 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: being the problem and the common denominator and a lot 485 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: of things. But Ben Ben might be the problem too. 486 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 5: No, Ben's crazy. Ben Afflick is absolutely out of his mind, insane, 487 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 5: great actor, but I think I think he's still I 488 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 5: think he really believes he's Batman at this point, because 489 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 5: only Batman spends more than that. 490 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: What are you doing? Man? Method? 491 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Acting a little too far? 492 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: Come on, I've seen the dunkin Donuts commercial? 493 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: All right? Anyways, what do we actually have as far 494 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: as topics today? So Casey Anthony's losing her fucking mind, 495 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: but what else is new? Did you subscribe to her 496 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: her legal TikTok show? 497 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 5: I don't have TikTok and this is probably another reason 498 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 5: why I don't, because if you're telling them Casey Anthony 499 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 5: is a legal advocate on TikTok, I don't even know 500 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 5: what that means. I don't even know. I didn't even 501 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 5: know TikTok had advocates. I mean, what is that? 502 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 3: What is her role? 503 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 6: What she's giving legal advice on TikTok oh? 504 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: Which, okay, I get it could be offensive people, But 505 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: don't you want to hear from the person? 506 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: Man? 507 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: Yo? 508 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: She don't you want to hear from a teflon donnan 509 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: that case. 510 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: She got out of that thought that was open and shut. 511 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: Yo, I will say I did watch that Casey Anthony 512 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: doc when it did come out. I have a whole 513 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: different perspective on that that case. Now, I honestly do 514 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: not think she killed her her child. 515 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, man. 516 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 5: I just think her looking at like body language, and 517 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 5: you know, if somebody kills your child and they're like 518 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 5: saying you did it, I just think your natural reaction 519 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 5: would be a lot more uh aggressive, like yo, y'all 520 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 5: trying to pin this on me. Like I didn't feel 521 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 5: none of that from her. I felt that I felt 522 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 5: to prove it energy from her. She deserves to be 523 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: in jail for life. I just don't think she actually 524 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 5: killed her child. I think, yeah, I think her. I 525 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: think her and her dad buried their the child. 526 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: I think the child drowned in the pool and they 527 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: did some weird shit and her dad helped her get 528 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: rid of the body, which you deserve to be in 529 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: fucking jailed for Oh. 530 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 531 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: I just don't think she actually like sat and like 532 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: killed her. 533 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: You think it was an accident that happened and they 534 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 3: tried to cover it up. 535 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, but her dedication to not stand out the spotlight, 536 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 6: just like if you get away with accidental murder just 537 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 6: like kind of get away with it. She just refuses 538 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 6: to get away, like I don't understand. 539 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, even accidental, like if your child drowned in the 540 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 5: pool accidentally, I still feel like if you bury a body, 541 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 5: that's still like insane to me, Like. 542 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: If you bury your child's yes, you should go to jail. 543 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean accidental death is an accidental death, especially 544 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 5: a pool drown but that. 545 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 6: Makes me feel like it's not accidental. Yeah, if you 546 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 6: really love your child and your child accidentally drowns, like 547 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 6: you're gonna I would be. 548 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: They would find me holding my child's body screaming if 549 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 5: that was the case. 550 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: Like, Oh, she's definitely sick in the fucking head, Yeah, 551 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: that's for sure. 552 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: But now she's on TikTok and you know, she. 553 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 6: Says she's been in the legal like she's been in 554 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 6: the field like for all of these years. Like but 555 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 6: like the date is like the day that she had 556 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 6: to go to jail. Yeah, she's sick. It's definitely sick. 557 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, everybody on TikTok, if you need some 558 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 5: legal advice on whatever it may be, I mean, Casey 559 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 5: Anthony is available at your disposal. I mean, you know, 560 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 5: just follow her and I don't know. I don't know 561 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 5: how you do you DM on? Do you message on 562 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: TikTok as well? I've never been on TikTok. I can't 563 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 5: tell you if you could message somebody. I don't know 564 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 5: nothing about it. 565 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: Sliding sliding in Casey's DMS is fucking nuts, But if 566 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: you need legal advice is not. Yep, you know what's 567 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: kind of sick. There's definitely been a couple people that 568 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: are probably fucked Casey Anthony after the case Like that's 569 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: wild to me. 570 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, a lot of people probably don't even know 571 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 6: who like that she's fucking probably don't even know who 572 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 6: Casey Anthony is. 573 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: Imagine meeting her at the bar and not knowing who 574 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: she is, have a little quick one night, staying next morning, 575 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: like I don't even catch your last name anything, don't 576 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: google me. You get in the car and realize who 577 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: you just fucked her because she doesn't have a Like 578 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: if Casey Anthony walked in here right now, I don't. 579 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: Think I would recommenc. 580 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. 581 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: I don't think I would know that that's Casey Anthony, 582 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 5: Like I don't remember her face like. 583 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: That, Like I don't remember wanting to have sex with her, 584 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: but I don't remember her. Yes, I don't think she 585 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: would be one that i'd give the pass for. Yeah, 586 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 1: but I mean, I don't know. 587 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: And she looks a lot different now is that the 588 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: current video on the left? 589 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, she's older if she's like what ten fifteen years older? 590 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, a while ago. All right, Well, if you need 591 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: some legal advice on TikTok, she's an influencer. She's an 592 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: influencer on how to how the body and no beat 593 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: the trial. I guess what is it with people that 594 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: have like crazy high level murder cases that just won't 595 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: like leave us alone, like oj because the moment he 596 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: got out, he was he was on Twitter every goddamn day. 597 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, the world is obsessed, well especially America is obsessed 598 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: with murder and crime and things like that. Some of 599 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 5: the biggest podcasts in the world murder podcast, Murder Mysteries, 600 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 5: some of the best documentaries, murdered documentaries. People are have 601 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 5: this obsession with who did it, Who done it? Where's 602 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 5: the body? You know what I mean that type of thing. 603 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 5: It's just because it's it's a story. I mean, it's 604 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 5: a tragic story, but it is a story, and people 605 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 5: want to get to the end and feel like, Okay, 606 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 5: I knew that person did it, or damn that person 607 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 5: didn't do it. So I think that's what people are 608 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 5: obsessed with, just the story and the suspense of a murder. 609 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: Are you on the side of the theory that OJ's 610 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: son actually did it and OJ just you know, helped 611 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: helped him clean up. 612 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: I've heard that. 613 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I could see it happening and we just 614 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 5: I just watched the what was the Gabby Patino Patito. 615 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 5: I just watched that documentary in Clear's day and her 616 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 5: and the guy's text messages. The mother was ready to 617 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 5: help him get rid of hide the body. So we 618 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 5: know that parents will go to extreme measures to protect 619 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 5: their children, even if it means, you know, helping them 620 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: hide the body that they, you know, a person that 621 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 5: they just killed. So I can I can see that. 622 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: I don't know if I ever subscribe to that theory. 623 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 5: In the OJ case, I always felt like OJ didn't 624 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 5: do it, but I did always feel like he knew 625 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: who did it. 626 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: I don't think I never felt like he did it, 627 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: though I was always on the side that he did it. 628 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: And then I watched one piece that was the theory 629 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: about the sun, and I believe that one it made 630 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. So I don't know. 631 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could listen this. 632 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: He either did it or no. 633 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 5: So that's what I'm I'm with you in that. I'm no, 634 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 5: I don't think he did it. I don't think OJ 635 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 5: did it. I never felt like that, but I believe 636 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 5: he knew. Obviously he's no longer with it, so he 637 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 5: knew who did it. 638 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: I just think it's crazy after you beat a murder 639 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: case like that, you just get on Twitter every day 640 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: and say ooh it's the juice baby, like we didn't 641 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: remember that trial. 642 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 3: People don't care. Man, he was he was. 643 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: Giving like sports takes, rite. 644 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 6: Your own history. You can't let the last thing that 645 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 6: somebody say about you be something that you don't want 646 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 6: to be remembered for. So you got to rewrite your 647 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 6: own history. 648 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: OJ did not rewrite it on it. His history is 649 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: still his history. Remember that Twitter video now, I was like, 650 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: remember that murder case. 651 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: I remember you in the back of that bronco. Remember. 652 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 6: But his personality and who he continued to be after 653 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 6: that case now is why y'all can sit and laugh 654 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 6: when you say his name instead of just remember him 655 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 6: like a Casey Anthony because he has come out and 656 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 6: he made a joke of it. He leaned into it, 657 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 6: so it made it funny to other people. 658 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: Which is crazy because somebody actually died. 659 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean I was two people does I wasn't even 660 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: alive when OJ was playing. I'm aware just off stats 661 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: that he was one of the greatest running backs, but 662 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't have my thoughts about OJ actually aren't really football. 663 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: It's the case, yeah, absolutely, and he is like one 664 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 1: of the greatest running backs ever, but I don't even 665 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: think about football. 666 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: I mean, Naked Gun is a classic, though I. 667 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: Don't think I haven't seen that since I was a kid. 668 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: Naked Gun. I remember classic series, classic movie series. 669 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 6: So Rory, I looked up your question when you asked 670 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: why are people so obsessed with like murder docks and 671 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 6: things like that. One of them is the controlled fear, 672 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 6: Like apparently we really like fear as humans. We like fear. 673 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 6: We like having an adrenaline rush, but we're safe. So 674 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 6: it's it's that that thrill, but we're safe from it. 675 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 6: So it's like watch it's the same people white people 676 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 6: slow down and watch car crashes, like the brain is 677 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: naturally wired to want to investigate death in harm and fear, 678 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 6: but at the same time stay stay from it. So 679 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 6: as long as it's not happening to us, we like it. 680 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 6: And then women, women are obsessed with the No, it's 681 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 6: called the know your enemy effect, Like we're obsessed with 682 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 6: the person, the danger that is to us, and how 683 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 6: we can watch it from afar. 684 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 5: That's why people pull their phones out when they see 685 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 5: some wow shit happening, like to. 686 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: Watch and instead of helping the situations, want to keep 687 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: watching it. Yeah, I get it. 688 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: Oh cooked in the brain. 689 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: Are you guys caught up on Paradise? 690 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: Yes? 691 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I watched it. You watched it? I 692 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 6: loved it. I was obsessed. 693 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: What is Paradise the show on Hulu? What will be 694 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: the best way you think to describe the show without 695 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: giving away too much. 696 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 6: It is a end of the world tale. Yeah, end 697 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 6: of the world tales. 698 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: Essentially everything blows up, but they the elites build like 699 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: a society under a mountain to survive it. 700 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: Yes, everything in the world blows up. 701 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 6: Yes, a big catastrophe like they always are saying, is 702 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 6: coming for us, like an end of the world Tale, 703 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 6: but there's one of the bunker cities. There's a bunker 704 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 6: city that's created. Okay, but the first episode, which I 705 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 6: don't feel like this is giving it anything away because 706 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 6: I feel like this would be in the description, the 707 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 6: president of this bunker city is killed, and the first 708 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 6: season goes through why what happened? How like it just 709 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 6: keeps flashing back to how they got to where they are. 710 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: It's really good, though, No, it's it's an incredible show. 711 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm in Paradise. 712 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 4: Yep. 713 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 6: It's headed by Sterling K. Brown, who was if you 714 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 6: guys don't know him, that's Randall from This is Us, 715 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 6: the Black Guy and This is Us. He's an amazing actor. 716 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: He was also in The People Versus O J. 717 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: Simpsons. 718 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he played what's what's the other prosecutor? That 719 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: was with Marshall Clark. No, Cochran's on the other side, 720 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: Carl the guy with the glasses bullhead. Yeah, and he 721 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: just represents somebody and then dropped the case uns killer, yes, 722 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: which which we should revisit. That was fucking weird. Christopher Darden, Yeah, 723 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Christopher Darten. That was really really odd. 724 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 5: Wasn't there another Darden that like killed like the police 725 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 5: or something like that. 726 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Christopher Darden, say his name. 727 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: Is Christopher Darton Okay, I knew that name sounds familiar. 728 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: Or Donner Christopher Dorner Dorner Yeah, okay, Why Llo COOLJ 729 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: has not made the limited serious about that? I do 730 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: not know. 731 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 5: They did resemble a little bit, Yeah, Llo would smoke 732 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 5: that roll. Yeah, it's Ll the greatest rapper turn actor. No, 733 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 5: probably Will, I mean, but Ellll is a better rapper, 734 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 5: has better music, Yes, so that attribute is up, and 735 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 5: Ella has. 736 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: Great movies under his belt, great roles. 737 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: Of the best in both categories. 738 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: Yes, Will is obviously the better, but Will Hollywood. 739 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 6: Will is a way better actor than Ll. COJ is 740 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 6: a rapper. 741 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Llo cooj is a way better rapper than 742 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: Will Smith. 743 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 6: Yes, but Will's if you're gonna do even for even. Yes, 744 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 6: one is good at one and one is better at 745 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 6: the other. But Will is such an amazing actor that 746 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: he will always be the best when it comes to 747 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 6: those two categories, because he's a better actor than Ll 748 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 6: is a rapper. 749 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Do we count Mark Wahlberg? 750 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 751 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: Why not? 752 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: Ddy was kind of nice? 753 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, Mark Warburg is definitely in that conversation. 754 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: I just I just was googling Queen Latifa is definitely 755 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: has to be up there. 756 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: The equalizer might be ruined in the corrido. That's just 757 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: guys here. I love I love the queen. 758 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 5: I love the queen, but she she could have passed 759 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 5: on that role and that let Denzel be to equalize it. 760 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 4: That's it. 761 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: Why is Andy Samberg on this list? 762 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: Andy Samberg? 763 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: He rapped. 764 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: I don't know about that one dick in the box, 765 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 766 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he wrote the those funny like songs. I never 767 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: considered him a rapper. 768 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: Though, yeah, I'm yeah, we can get him off the list. 769 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 6: Most people would try to say that it was Tupac. 770 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Park might be number one. 771 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 6: I don't think is number one. 772 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: Number one. 773 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: He has iconic. 774 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 6: Gridlock really did it for That's what Gridlocked? It took 775 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 6: you there, that that was the that was the. 776 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: Pac And Jim Belushi is like, that's that's my north 777 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: star of Gridlock? 778 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: Did it for you? 779 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: All right? Come on? Juice Poetic Justice both we could 780 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: consider classic movies. 781 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 5: Correct Juice and Poetic Justice. You get no debate from me? 782 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 3: Yes? 783 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: On top of Park's catalog, Yes, you can definitely debate 784 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Llo cool J verse Tupac in this category ll cool 785 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: J versus Tupac. Yeah, because you can't debate will because 786 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was the best ever. 787 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: But you just said one. 788 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: What I'm saying the one B the Llo cool J 789 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: verse Pac. I think pok takes that I ain't deliver 790 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: l movies Swat. 791 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I don't like that great movie. I like 792 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: great move. We're not doing that. 793 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 5: I love Swat. I mean and too deep mm hmm 794 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 5: classic to me as a. 795 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: Class I'm trying to think cool Jay. 796 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Deliver us from Eva as a Black classic. 797 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 6: I don't know if y'all on that from Them Come 798 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 6: is also a black classic? 799 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: Deep Blue c I was scared back to this fair thing. 800 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: I haven't been in the water. 801 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: I haven't been on vacation since Deep Lucy came. 802 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: Out and give it a Sunday. You already know how 803 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I feel about that movie. 804 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 6: Damn Last Holiday with Queen Latifa. Damn you think that 805 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 6: was gonna bar for bar When I might walk, I 806 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 6: may walk back my table. 807 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: He's got some classic fucking. 808 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: And I mean, and uh, what was his sitcom name? 809 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: Was it? In the House? In the House, I didn't 810 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: watch that. You didn't watch in the house. 811 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 6: Damn, I'm old iceed tea. 812 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: Iceedy is definitely definitely on that list. 813 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: I gotta put him up there. 814 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 6: He was keeping the lights on that fucking long order. 815 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: He's on that list. 816 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh, ship and ThReD three thousand. He doesn't have a 817 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: lot of movies, but. 818 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 5: I four Brothers Classic, I love I Love Idle wow 819 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 5: d MX. 820 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: Ice Cube up there for sure, Yeah, up there? How 821 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: do we not even mention q? 822 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 6: Ice Cube is probably the greatest wrap See, I think 823 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 6: ice Cube is above Tupac. Yeah, ice Cube, yeah, pressure, 824 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 6: he said, fuck the police. 825 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: No. Ice Cube has an insane desography plus a bunch 826 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: of classic movies classics. Yeah. Now, I think the debate 827 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: would be ice c versus. 828 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 6: Smith, ice Cub versus Will Smith. 829 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. 830 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. What was the ice Cube movie? When they was 831 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 3: in the Whitehouse. 832 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 5: And they got locked in, they was trying to find 833 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 5: the uh, the hidden like the jewelry, like the gold 834 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 5: and stuff that was in the all. 835 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: About the measurements. 836 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 6: Trespass. 837 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 5: Trespass, y'all don't know nothing about trespass classic movie. 838 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: How could we not bring up the game and Belly two. 839 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: We're not doing that, please, we're not game. 840 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: This game have a classic desography no, yes, music, yeah, absolutely, okay, 841 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: but not film. 842 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 5: Plus the classic movie Belly two is terrible. Well, I 843 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 5: don't even talk about that movie. I don't know why they. 844 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 6: What about though? We bring up what Aboutnas? You know 845 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 6: what's crazy to say something bad? One of my favorite 846 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 6: rappers not only did one movie though, right, thank godh nah, 847 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 6: So you got Elevator above this madness R because that's 848 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 6: one of your favorite movie. 849 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh, it's incredible, but it's one of the worst acted 850 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: movies ever as well. That's the genius of Hey Williams. 851 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: We talked about that incredible movie with awful, awful fucking actor. 852 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 6: I don't know, but I think DMX. DMX is a 853 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 6: good actor. That's an incredible death. Raid is a grave. 854 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 6: No X is amazing. 855 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: That's what made it even crazier because you have an 856 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: incredible actor in every scene with some of the worst 857 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: actors of all time. Like the difference in the range 858 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: was hard to watch. 859 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 5: Belly is the best worst movie ever. Yeah, it's a 860 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 5: it's a cult classic without a doubt. 861 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: But is TVAS and NAS the worst acted couple of 862 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: all time. 863 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 6: I mean, like, what the fuck? That was a spot on? 864 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 5: Nah, I kind of believed that when she walked in 865 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 5: the house and the niggas were sitting in the living room, 866 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 5: I kind. 867 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 3: Of was like, T boys got in her acting bag 868 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:06,959 Speaker 3: on that ship. 869 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 6: For real. 870 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 3: That was a good scene. We ain't gonna do T 871 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 3: boars like that. That was a good scene. She looked. 872 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: She did greater in that scene. 873 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: She did great magic getting shot in the leg and 874 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: just going home and being like Africa, we out give 875 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: a fuck, Let's go to the hospital. 876 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 3: Now, Nah, we out go straight to the airport. 877 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 6: I think, yeah, it's just that that first opening scene 878 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 6: really get people because it's the greatest opening scene of 879 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 6: a movie of all time. And then some bullshit. It's 880 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 6: some bullshit. 881 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: Ice Cube might be it, though he might be the 882 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: greatest rapper turned actor. 883 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 6: I'm still gonna go well. I think Will Smith is 884 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 6: a way better actor than ice Q. 885 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, could I rule Fast and Furious 886 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: No Monica best line ever? 887 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 6: Listen, bow Wow and Fast and Furious bow. 888 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: Wow kind of smoke lottery ticket too. 889 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 6: Bow Wow got a couple on him. 890 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 3: Ludacris got some good films too, though. 891 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I ain't think it yet. 892 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 6: Looted? Damn? 893 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: Can we pull up bow Wowser filmography. 894 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 3: Like Mike roll Bounce did it for you? 895 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: I like Robounce? 896 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: I do too. 897 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 6: Lottery Ticket was good, Johnson's family vacation like Mike. Obviously, 898 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 6: Madia's big happy family. 899 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go Will Smith, Ice, Cube, Tupac, Queen, Latafa. 900 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who to put from my five. Maybe 901 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: L's there. I think that's my top five. 902 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 5: I'm not mad at that, as long as Cube and 903 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 5: will Pop got classic movies, though, I gotta put Park there. 904 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: Uh machine Gun, Kelly. 905 00:36:52,719 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 5: Ll I said, Cube right, Cube, Will Uh method Man. 906 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie what he's doing with the Power series? 907 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I'm with you. 908 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 3: Good acting. 909 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 910 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: I mean. 911 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: Does all of State property count? 912 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: Don't put them all together? 913 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean they have classic movies. Yeah, put Hope in 914 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: there too. 915 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: He didn't even say nothing in else he was in 916 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: the studio. He No, they got that one scene with 917 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 3: with Dame in the car, like when. 918 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: They robbed the same house. 919 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. But I feel I feel like Jay wasn't acting. 920 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 6: I feel like I had talked to Bigs. 921 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 5: I feel like that scene, no, I feel like he 922 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 5: was like, I don't even want to be able. Fuck it, eye, 923 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 5: I played myself. 924 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: And I mean, streets Is watching that some terrible fucking acting. 925 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 3: But that suspected he was young and just had a 926 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: camera in the projects. 927 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: Like, oh no, they smoked. It was an incredible movie, 928 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: but at some of the worst actings. 929 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 5: Streets Is watching is such a brilliant idea though, like 930 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 5: she actually felt rapper to do that at that time. 931 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 5: I don't think we still haven't seen another rapper do 932 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 5: something like that. 933 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we know Jays has been a shooter before, 934 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: but well he was trying to back out in the project. 935 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: Shooting was one of the funniest seas up the Switch Hands. 936 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: Jay can't do anything athletic at all. He if that 937 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: was a shootout, he was getting shot for sure, and 938 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: at the worst fucking aim ever. All the fake shots 939 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: going against the project, like who is shooting right? 940 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: Spray this whole shit up. 941 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: I feel like, that's that's crazy that Vaughn got to 942 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: be in that and they didn't, you know, bring you 943 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: in the mix. I know they did it in Marcie, 944 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: but I felt like Vaughn's role should have went to you. 945 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm not from Marcie, Yeah, but I mean Damon Biggs 946 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: pulled up like they could have brought you from Harlem. 947 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 3: Nah, it was a Massie. That was a Massie movie. 948 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,959 Speaker 3: Made sense. 949 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: Why was the internet killing our guy? JD saw yesterday? 950 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: They was tearing them. 951 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: Up, disrespectful to the legend. 952 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess he was just asking a rhetorical question. 953 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: Wasn't suggesting the otherwise. 954 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 3: But he said, I'm a little lost. Well, he tweeted, 955 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 3: I'm a little lost. 956 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 5: Can somebody tell me what the goal of being an 957 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 5: independent artist is today? Because all of the things that 958 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 5: people are chasing is made is shit that major artists do. 959 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 5: What's the thing that indie artists do that make it special? 960 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 5: And I saw a Larussell chimed Dan and he said 961 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 5: I think he said own the music. You know, if 962 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 5: you know anything about Russell, makes sense that he was 963 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 5: chiming on that. But I understand what Jad was saying. 964 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 5: I think he was kind of saying, you know, you 965 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 5: want to be independent, but then you want to, you know, 966 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 5: do the things that major artists do. You want the 967 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 5: things that major artists want. You want the lights, the glitch. 968 00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 3: The glamour. You don't want the grind. 969 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 5: Don't want to You want to be on the same 970 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 5: stage as a major artist when you're independent, and it 971 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 5: takes a lot a lot more work when you're independent 972 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 5: to kind of be on the same you know, field 973 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 5: and the same level as a major artist and get 974 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 5: the same looks that major artists get. So I think, 975 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 5: you know, it was a rhetorical question that Jadi was asking, 976 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 5: like how do you want to be Say you want 977 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 5: to be independent, but you want to look like a 978 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 5: major artist. 979 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get it because it's not like 980 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: people say, I want to go be indie, but I 981 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: don't want to be successful. Like the goal is to 982 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: get your music to as many possible people that you 983 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: can absolutely make money off it hopefully change change people's lives. 984 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't understand what major and independent even has to 985 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: do with what the end goal for most artists is, 986 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: which is to be a star and to get your 987 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: music heard by as many people as you can at 988 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: a price that makes you rich. 989 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,479 Speaker 5: Like again, I think it's subjective though, Like what what's 990 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 5: the start as far as you're concerned as an artist 991 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 5: to the specific artist. 992 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: What is a star to you? What does a star 993 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: look like a star? I don't know these stars that 994 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: are independent. I know extremely successful artists, Like I watched 995 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: Russ sell out Radio City and Barclay Center independently. 996 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 6: Mm hmm. 997 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: Russ, I wouldn't say he's a superstar. He's he's definitely 998 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: up there as far as popular popularity. But I don't 999 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: know if I know any superstars that are independent. 1000 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 6: Sure is independent now now? Now? 1001 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's you know, but. 1002 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: You hope is independent now? 1003 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1004 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 5: Like it's you know. But again, Russ is a great example. 1005 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 5: Russ is somebody who you might not be. You know, 1006 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 5: you don't think about when you start talking about superstars. 1007 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 5: But if you go to a Russ show, yeah, and 1008 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 5: you see it, so the venues that he's able to 1009 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 5: sell out, that's superstar shit. 1010 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: But why would JD not understand that some artists just 1011 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: don't want their music owned in perpetuity forever. Like even 1012 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: the way he's seeing people sell their catalogs, Like, well, 1013 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: he's you can't sell your full catalog if you're not 1014 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: completely independent. 1015 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 5: But he's asking, but he's asking, what's the goal of 1016 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 5: being an independent artist today? Because all the things that 1017 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 5: people are chasing is what the major artists get. 1018 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's just it's just a weird point because 1019 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: everyone is changing. That's the way it successful. Like it's 1020 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: very I just don't get it. It's a bad question. 1021 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 6: The way he asked the question doesn't even make sense, 1022 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 6: Like it's a bad question. 1023 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 5: Well, he did started with I'm a little lost, so 1024 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 5: let's let's start there. He did start with I'm a 1025 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 5: little lost, and then he said, can somebody tell me 1026 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 5: what the goal of being an independent artist is today? 1027 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 5: Because all of the things that people are chasing is 1028 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 5: the ship that major artists have. So what is the 1029 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 5: thing that independent artists do that make it special? Well, 1030 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 5: somebody I understand the question. 1031 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 6: Crooked I responded and said, freedom. And I'm not against 1032 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 6: majors as long as the deal has beneficial for everyone. 1033 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 6: But being India is the freedom to choose the what, when, 1034 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 6: where and how? And Jermaine de preresponded to Crooked I 1035 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 6: and said, so you're saying freedom is the perk? So 1036 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 6: I think JD is wondering what's the perk of being independent? 1037 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 6: But I feel like that's such an easy question to answer, 1038 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 6: even if that is what he's asking. 1039 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, the answer is pretty obviously, even 1040 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: like Ransom reply to own their masters, own their name 1041 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: and likeness, own their creative direction, own their freedom. We 1042 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: don't have to wait for someone to tell us when 1043 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: we can release a song, album, mixtape, tour, interview. We 1044 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: do what we want when we want. Yeah, and to me, 1045 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's pretty obvious. 1046 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. I think JD is probably saying like it's like 1047 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 6: you're chasing When he says they're chasing the things that 1048 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 6: major artists have or get. I'm assuming they mean like 1049 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 6: Grammys or things like that. But it's like, yeah, it's 1050 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 6: going to be harder for me to get these things, 1051 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 6: but I'll keep more of my money in the long run. Yeah. 1052 00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously we know JD still hip hop legend, 1053 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: but a lot of JD's biggest stuff is been popping 1054 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: R and B, which is not typically ever an independent 1055 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: worlds at all. Like JD is very much used to 1056 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: that system because to create superstars you do need a 1057 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: major label to some degree, So that's probably I'm just 1058 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: sure JD has seen the benefits of what a major 1059 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: can actually do and provide for you because he's you know, 1060 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: so so deaf with universal and I'm so Sonya rather 1061 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: has helped a lot of his artists to become superstars. 1062 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: So maybe he just doesn't see the value in the 1063 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: indie thing because his goals are more on the superside, 1064 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: superstar side. I guess, yeah, I don't know. 1065 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: See, I know what happened. He was in the studio. 1066 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 3: One of them conversations came about. 1067 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: JD's good good for this. At least once a month 1068 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: he does stir up the timeline with no. 1069 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 5: But I like it though, because obviously we're talking about, 1070 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 5: you know, one of the most legendary producers and that 1071 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 5: we have in our culture. So I like the fact 1072 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 5: that you know, this is to me, this is what 1073 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 5: social media is about, Like you know, somebody like Jermain 1074 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 5: Duprix who has accomplished all that he has in the 1075 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 5: music industry and entertainment industry, you know, just having you know, 1076 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 5: those conversations in the studio that I've been or that 1077 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,919 Speaker 5: we've been privy enough to be around in real time 1078 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 5: and just go to social media with it and just 1079 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 5: pose the question where it reaches a bunch of different people, 1080 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 5: because it's like, Okay, if it's five of us in 1081 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 5: here having this conversation and we're all arguing and yelling, 1082 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 5: it's like, you know what, let me tweet this. Other 1083 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 5: artists that you know, someone who are independent will see this. 1084 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 5: They'll chime in and they'll you know, respond to it, 1085 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 5: which is what Ransom and Crook and obviously l Russell 1086 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 5: and others have done. 1087 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 3: So I like this. I like this type of. 1088 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 5: Question posing from an artist or you know, a producer 1089 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 5: such as Jamaine Depris. 1090 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: I can't think of an example right off the top 1091 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: of my head right now, but have you ever had 1092 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: like a convo with your friends or even like when 1093 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: we're off Mike in the studio having a great debate 1094 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: or make a great point like I should tweet this 1095 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: thinking like you really smoke something because in the room 1096 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: at that time it felt like you were winning. And 1097 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: then you know, Timeline, you don't sem to think otherwise. 1098 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 5: You don't know how many times I've had that situation 1099 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 5: and somebody said, yo, mal you got the most tweet 1100 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 5: it right now and ask and I'm like, hell no, 1101 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 5: because I know I know what reading it versus having 1102 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 5: somebody ask you, Yeah, like this question that Jamaine tweeted. 1103 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 5: I know if he actually you actually could hear him 1104 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 5: asking the question, the context is totally different. 1105 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and give more points and more context to it. 1106 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 5: You only have so many Well, now you can tweet 1107 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 5: as much as you want, right, there's not a character 1108 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 5: limit on tweets anymore. 1109 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 3: No, I just see porns. I'm guessing there's no, no. 1110 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 6: There's character limits if you don't pay for Twitter. 1111 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, gotcha, I deliver right to Elon's pockets. 1112 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can put it right in there. You head 1113 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 3: it to it. 1114 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: When I saw it, they like changed it to two 1115 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: eighty and then to unlimited. I thought I was gonna 1116 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: like be happy about that. I don't really go above 1117 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: one forty anyway. That was a good note. 1118 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 3: That's why I never paid for because I'm like, I 1119 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 3: don't tweet that much. 1120 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 6: It rory. Do you ever regret not being like regret 1121 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 6: being independent? No, not at all, because you are fully 1122 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,240 Speaker 6: independent right completely. 1123 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: It's I will say, because compilation albums are very tough 1124 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: because everything is feature based, and getting features is tough, 1125 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: and you're waiting on other people's time. It would be 1126 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: way easier if I was on a major the resources 1127 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 1: of one money because you know, a lot of what 1128 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: I do, my project is based off personal relationships with 1129 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: people that are doing it to make the song. They're 1130 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: not looking for like a verse fee or anything like that. 1131 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: I could probably get some bigger features if I was like, Yo, 1132 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: I have a butt, do you need fifty K? Yeah? 1133 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 6: And not. 1134 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: You know, I don't believe the rumor that major labels 1135 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: can just hit a button and make your song go crazy. 1136 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: But they definitely you don't believe that. I think it's 1137 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: way more complicated and way more factors than just going 1138 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: this is a hit in your superstar because I'm universal, 1139 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 1: I think. 1140 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 3: They have that's exactly how easy it is. 1141 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: Then why wouldn't they do it all the time? Because 1142 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: it was why is rare them? 1143 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 5: It would be way too is a superstar rare? Yes, 1144 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 5: I don't know why Why can't they just still? I 1145 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 5: still don't understand the Playboy Cardi thing. 1146 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: Still that But to me, that's not major label ship. 1147 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: That's him building a cult and core fan base that 1148 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: like that type of ship. 1149 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 6: Play will Cardi showed them niggas it is mobbing and 1150 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 6: he's agreement, and but. 1151 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: Otto built a crazy community and I don't think it 1152 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: was a major going what was the song? Just tell 1153 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: when you're asking the wrong person. 1154 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. 1155 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 5: I don't even know what the song like and point 1156 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 5: to me this is this is no knock to Cardi, 1157 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 5: But I'm just saying when you have it, because he's 1158 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,720 Speaker 5: a superstar. As far as I'm concerned, I can't attach 1159 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 5: it to a like what was the record, what was 1160 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:51,280 Speaker 5: the moment? 1161 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 3: What was the I just can't see it. 1162 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that kind of proves the 1163 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: point then, because we don't know what that major label 1164 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: button moment was. It was over time. He built that community. 1165 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: And if major labels could do that, why when Rihanna 1166 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: has clearly retired, they didn't go new Rihanna. 1167 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 3: Because Rihanna doesn't want to put out music she could know, why. 1168 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: Can't they just create an Rihanna? Then if they can 1169 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: just hit a button. 1170 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like Tyler's on the way. 1171 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: I now you disrespect rihal I like Tyler too, but 1172 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: let's not even put certain people in a sentence. 1173 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 3: You know you miss you miss what I'm saying. I'm 1174 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 3: not saying. 1175 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 5: I'm just saying that I could the same package, the 1176 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 5: same way Rihanna came out, and people kind of were 1177 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 5: like a little hesitant on deciding, you know, if they 1178 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 5: liked her or not, because I remember that, I remember ponder, ponder, 1179 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 5: replaying all that I was did for that, I remember 1180 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 5: those moments. I'm just saying it got to a point 1181 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 5: that with Tyler's smashed with her water record smash, right, 1182 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 5: But I could see them kind of putting her through 1183 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 5: the same type of you know, that's kind of like 1184 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 5: she's a She's obviously a beautiful, a beautiful woman. I 1185 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 5: could see her at some point in time getting into 1186 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 5: the beauty space. Okay, the music the same type of 1187 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 5: you know, Caribbean, afrocentric, that type of vibe. I could 1188 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 5: see her than now them pushing her more into like 1189 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 5: real R and B lane at some point, Okay, I 1190 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 5: could see it. I'm sitting here with certain writers, R 1191 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 5: and B writers, producers getting her real R and B sound, 1192 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 5: getting her away from the African just afrobeats type of vibe, 1193 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 5: and I could see I could see that for Tyler. 1194 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 5: I could see the music industry absolutely pushing her through 1195 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 5: the same type of gauntlet that they did Ranne. At 1196 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 5: one point and shout out to Tyler because she's obviously 1197 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 5: talented and she's dope. But you can see it, like, Okay, 1198 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 5: I've seen this, seen this play before. 1199 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean how that mean when she makes anti? 1200 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're talked about but how long? How long 1201 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 5: unto Rihanna's career did that happen? 1202 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 4: Oh? 1203 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: Later on? 1204 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 3: But exactly so it's the same thing. 1205 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 5: The point I'm making to you, give it time, let's 1206 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 5: watch it, but I can see it early, like, Okay, 1207 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 5: they're gonna sit Tyler with a real R and B producer, 1208 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 5: get her real R and B album project, and it's 1209 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 5: gonna Now she's into the R and B lane. 1210 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 3: I would dominate. 1211 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say R and B because R and B 1212 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 6: singers are not really successful these days. Like R and 1213 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 6: B is not the successful Rihanna wasn't even R and 1214 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 6: B Rihanna as a pop artist. 1215 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean yeah, but R and B pop 1216 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 5: pop is just popular, like we know R and B 1217 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 5: is pop music. 1218 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm actually shocked this take is coming from you, because 1219 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: you are typically the person that has so much respect 1220 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 1: for actual like legends that you hate when we even compare, 1221 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: like the person. 1222 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,240 Speaker 6: That hates Jello. 1223 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: When we say it's a good record to even compare 1224 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: to other legitimate artists, you rightfully so get upset. So 1225 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: that's why I think it's kind of nuts that you 1226 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: would put Tyler, even in a sentence off a hypothetical. 1227 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 3: No, but I'm you're you're making it too much. 1228 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 5: You'regging it a little bit because you're making it too 1229 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 5: much of a comparison thing. I'm not saying Tyler. I'm 1230 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 5: saying the same thing that they did for Rihanna. They 1231 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 5: started out with her roots, her sound, her culture. It 1232 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 5: was that heavy. It was Caribbean heavy with Rihanna at first. 1233 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 5: It then transitions into shit her with Neo. Let's get 1234 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 5: these records, get with the dream, get the umbrella and 1235 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 5: all of that. Let Jake put a verse on that, 1236 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like I could see them 1237 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 5: doing the same thing with Tyler milliare. 1238 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: Definitely invested in going to make sure she continues to 1239 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: be a very popular artist. But I just don't think 1240 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: it's just a label thing at that point. Like Water 1241 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 1: was successful, yes, because the majors did get behind it 1242 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: and you could not fucking escape that song. Water is 1243 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 1: also an incredible fucking song. 1244 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm not saying it's not. 1245 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: Yes, major labels know how to push the button on 1246 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: incredible records to get them in front of more eyes 1247 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 1: and ears. Like, let's not just say they hit a 1248 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: button on anything. It takes two to get to that 1249 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: superstar level. They'll put some bullshit out that'll just play 1250 00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: on radio. 1251 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 5: You worked in it industry, You mean to tell me 1252 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 5: you don't think that is It's just a simple phone 1253 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 5: call for them to say, you know what, we're going 1254 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 5: to get her on the view with Whoopee, We're going 1255 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 5: to get her on this with her, We're going to 1256 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 5: put this artist on this show with that daytime TV. 1257 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 3: It's literally just phone calls. 1258 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 6: But that doesn't make you a superstars. 1259 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 1: I agree that the major system back to the superstar shit. 1260 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: You need a major to have those connections. Yes, with 1261 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 1: a major, you'll probably get on fallin easier, but that 1262 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're going to stay on if the music sucks. 1263 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: That's what makes superstars. Yes, they get buttons. 1264 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 6: Pushed again, but they delivered. 1265 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 5: But the button pushing is literally Yo, get her in 1266 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 5: the studio with Mike Dean, get her in the studio 1267 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 5: with this person, it's literally just the label making calls 1268 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 5: that they already have with people they already have relationships with, 1269 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 5: like this is the next superstar. Label, you can create 1270 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 5: the next superstar. You can absolutely push a button to 1271 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 5: say this is the next superstar. 1272 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: I agree, But what is the deciding factor that makes 1273 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: them a superstar and keep them in the game for 1274 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years. It's their talent level as well. They 1275 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 1: have given plenty of artists an opportunity to be on 1276 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 1: Foulin and do a live performance on late night TV. 1277 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they become superstars. Yes, the majors give you 1278 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: the opportunity. Yeah, but how much a lot of people 1279 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: don't deliver from. 1280 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 3: How much talent do you need today to be a superstar? 1281 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 6: Well, who are this super about to say? And we 1282 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 6: have a lot? 1283 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 1: Because isn't there isn't. 1284 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 6: No, you don't need a lot of this hand, don't 1285 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,760 Speaker 6: need a lot this superstar title. 1286 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 5: You do not need a loperstar right now. I'm whoever 1287 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 5: you want to name is a superstar. I'm saying you 1288 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 5: today in twenty twenty five, to be a superstar in 1289 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 5: the music business, you do not need a lot of 1290 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 5: talent because a lot of superstars that we can name 1291 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 5: are not great vocalists. I'm not gonna put no names 1292 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 5: on it with y'all. They're not great vocalists Without all 1293 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 5: of the bells and whistles and tricks and shit on 1294 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 5: the mixing board, they do not sound that good. They 1295 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 5: cannot dance that good. So what are we talking about? 1296 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 5: Whilere you acting like it's so hard to make it? 1297 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 5: If a label decides this is the person we're investing in, 1298 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 5: and we're putting the house behind that person is going 1299 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 5: to be successful. We've seen it Tom and Tom again, 1300 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 5: and then we see people that are like them. She 1301 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 5: sings better than her, or he sings better. How is 1302 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 5: that he dances better than him, she dances better than her? 1303 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 5: How is she not a superstar? 1304 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 6: There's things that go into being so first of all, 1305 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 6: that's why I said, what's a superstar? 1306 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 5: A superstar somebody that just has that. It's a confidence thing, 1307 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 5: It's a it's a you elude this type of energy. 1308 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. 1309 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 5: Why you may not be the greatest singer or greatest 1310 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 5: dancer when you walk in the room. It's something about 1311 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 5: you that people say I like this. 1312 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: That's definitely a factor. For sure. That's a talent and that, 1313 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: but it's a movie star. It's not the acting. I 1314 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: agree with you, that is definitely so it's the same 1315 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: thing in movies. It's the same thing you can't you 1316 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: can't name. I don't need to be able to hit 1317 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: that note. 1318 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 5: If I sing it to this mic and you do 1319 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 5: what you have to do behind that board, I hit 1320 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 5: that note by. 1321 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 3: The time you hear it. 1322 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: I'm not saying every superstar is Christina Aguilera when it 1323 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: comes to singing, but you cannot name me one superstar 1324 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: that is not extremely, extremely, extremely talented, not one. 1325 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 6: I think the only one that people will argue would 1326 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 6: be Rihanna. And that's not Shaye to Rihanna, because I 1327 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 6: absolutely love Rihanna. But it's been well known that people 1328 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 6: have doubted her vocals over the year, so that she 1329 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 6: wasn't a strong vocalist, said that she's not a strong dancer. 1330 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 6: Rihanna is just going a for aura. You can't out. 1331 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 6: She was born to be a store. She was born 1332 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 6: to be a star. 1333 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 1: And what did Rihanna do her entire career deliver incredible 1334 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,760 Speaker 1: classic music Despite agree not being the best vocalist spirit 1335 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez is not a good vocalist. 1336 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 5: What's the part of the superstar. What's the part of 1337 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 5: delivering those those records? What's a major part of delivering. 1338 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,720 Speaker 6: Those records is the people writing them and producing them. 1339 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 6: I mean, he's not lying about that. 1340 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 3: Why are you acting like this right now? 1341 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: You make music, bro, the amount of references with Rihanna records, 1342 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: I've heard and we know. 1343 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 5: People that I don't want to delivered this better. I 1344 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 5: don't want it more of a wait wait, wait, I 1345 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 5: do not want to make this a Rihanna thing. I'm 1346 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 5: not trying to make the surrianite. I'm talking in general. 1347 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 5: Why are you acting like you can't just take this person, 1348 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 5: this artist, and once you put them in a room 1349 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 5: ry Right now, if you put me in the room 1350 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 5: with Dream and whatever fucking other producer you want to 1351 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 5: put me in a room with, I could make a 1352 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 5: fucking hit record. 1353 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: Moll, I guarantee you there are thousands and thousands and 1354 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: thousands of songs that labels sent to the Dream that 1355 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: did not work out. 1356 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 5: Of course, I'm not saying it's not I'm just saying 1357 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 5: when it label decides that they have this person, like, damn, 1358 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 5: this person right here, this is the next. 1359 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: So why don't they do that? Why is Tanashi not 1360 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: a star? 1361 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 6: Why they tried very hard and everything. 1362 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: World for her, every opportunity, And I do think she's talented, 1363 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: not the best vocalist all the time either does kind 1364 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: of have an hit factor? 1365 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 6: Why why didn't that work out? Why didn't read the 1366 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 6: oral workout? It's not foolproof, Like I get what Maul 1367 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 6: is saying, like it does help, but you have to 1368 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 6: be that girl. If you not or that boy, if 1369 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 6: you not that, then there's no button in the world 1370 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 6: they can press that will give you. You might have 1371 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 6: one hit, but it's not gonna give you longevity. Like 1372 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 6: it's just not gonna happen. You can't fake that, especially 1373 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 6: for too long. You can't fake it for too long. 1374 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,919 Speaker 6: The reader or is a perfect example because they put 1375 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 6: the fucking house behind. 1376 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: Her, and that is what separates it. Anyone can get 1377 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,479 Speaker 1: the opportunities from the majors. They themselves are what keeps 1378 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: them on. Yes, of course there's help, there's right as 1379 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: a producers. But so there's plenty of people that get 1380 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: those shots and put out bullshit. Plenty of people have 1381 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: worked with Dream, have had Timberland Beats, had every fucking 1382 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: publication look that you could get, and did not make 1383 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: it because they weren't a superstar. Like I won't say 1384 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: dogect superstar, but she's a star. 1385 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 3: Y'all. 1386 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 6: Just hold on wait, y'all just called Playboy Cardi a 1387 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 6: superstar if you can call it Playboy Cardi a superstar. 1388 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 6: Called Playboy Cardios, y'all did? That was how this whole 1389 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 6: entire conversation came. 1390 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: About star thing. But I think Playboy Cardi is a superstar. 1391 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 4: I do. 1392 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 6: I think that that that's super one that said that different. 1393 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 6: He has a literal coach. That's not when I think 1394 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 6: super can You can't. 1395 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 3: Have a coat following and not be a superstar. 1396 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is a superstar. Beyonce is a superstar. Justin 1397 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: Bieber is a superstar. Think that guy is a superstar. 1398 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 6: Beyonce is a mega star. Is a little bit different, Beyonce, 1399 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 6: Michael Jackson, you and entering into mega I think Usher 1400 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 6: Usher is a superstar. Yeah, I don't think Playboy cart 1401 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 6: is a superstar. Usher is a superstar. Rihanna is a superstar. 1402 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 6: Bruno Mars superstar, Playboy Carti is not a superstar. He's 1403 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 6: a star, but he's not a superstar. I think there's 1404 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 6: a little bit of a difference. 1405 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: And so back to the Dojakat thing. 1406 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 5: If Playboy CARDI tweet right now that he's a Union 1407 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 5: Square Park, it's gonna be pandemonium on Fourteenth Street. 1408 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: What all right? What if Ariana Grande tweeted that they 1409 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: got a city down superstar. 1410 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the same ship would have with Playboy Superstar. 1411 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 6: If Playboy CARDI tweets I'm in Union Square Park right 1412 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 6: now playing my album, it's going to be pandemonium uptown. 1413 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I agree. 1414 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 6: He's a very popular I. 1415 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 5: Don't say popular, he's a superstar. Bro, we're not doing 1416 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 5: that he's in I don't understand it. I'm gonna be 1417 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 5: the first to tell you. Maybe it's outside of what 1418 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 5: I'm my algorithm. I don't understand it. 1419 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 3: But I recognize a superstar when I see one. Playboy 1420 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 3: Card is a superstar. 1421 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: He's a list in hip hop. 1422 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 3: That's not however you want to. 1423 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Listen, it's playable pretty much. 1424 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 5: Cut you want to put on that dope, Rory, do 1425 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 5: what you gotta do. Playboy Card is a superstar. 1426 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: What's the biggest venue that he's gonna sell out? 1427 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 6: Oh, don't do that because Playboy Card. 1428 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything Cardi. I'm aware of how poper 1429 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: I believe you could sell out the Garden. I wouldn't 1430 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: be shocked if he sold out the Garden. 1431 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 3: But that's a superstar. 1432 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's a star. 1433 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 6: Bro. 1434 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: You when he sells out MetLife, then talk. 1435 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 6: To me, Well he has two shows. 1436 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Nah if I Met Life like that's insane. There's a 1437 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: handful of people that could do. Travis Scott is a superstar. Yes, star, 1438 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 1: he sold our Met Life. He's a star. 1439 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 2: Yo. 1440 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 6: You tripping? What ain't talking about? Nobody gonna fuck you? 1441 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 6: Squabble up that nigga. Playboy Carti is a superstar. Bro, 1442 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 6: I'll fight you one on one. I don't give a fuck. 1443 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 6: I don't need no help. Playboy Catti is a superstar. How 1444 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 6: you take that far? 1445 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't need help. 1446 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 2: I don't. 1447 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's like that. 1448 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 6: I'll take the I'll take. 1449 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 3: The one on one. Playboy Card is a superstar. 1450 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: If this podcast breaks up because of Playboy Cardian. 1451 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, Playboy Carti to me is a superstar. 1452 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 5: I think if you have a coat following the side 1453 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 5: that he has, bro, that's superstar. 1454 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 3: Shit, Bro, that's not easy about star. 1455 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 6: I think of talent, So I won't agree with you 1456 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 6: on that because I think that talent is a factor 1457 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 6: no matter how popular you are. I think it ordered 1458 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 6: to be a superstar, you have to have the company 1459 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 6: and talent to back it up. 1460 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Which which one of these does not belong Taylor Swift, Beyonce. 1461 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 6: Joe, Taylor Swift is a megastar, Leeve, g. 1462 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: GA, Madonna, Rihanna, Ari, you on Grande? Playboy CARDI which one? 1463 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: Which one is not belonged? 1464 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 5: Because I don't even like your tone in the way 1465 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 5: you drop your tone when you said his name and 1466 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 5: all of that. 1467 01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 3: Don't do that. 1468 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 5: Because I think that all of those artists that you 1469 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 5: just named, I think they'll do They'll do a song 1470 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 5: with Playboy Cardy. I think he can get a feature 1471 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 5: with all of them. I Spike's got a record with 1472 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 5: Taylor Swift, We're not doing that. Playboy card could get 1473 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 5: a record with Taylor Swift, We're not doing that. 1474 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, he he just got a song win a superstar 1475 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: the weekend exactly. 1476 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 6: He's on tour with the weekend Actually the weekend superstar 1477 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 6: is a superstar. Yeah, playboy card is right there. 1478 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 1: You've never seen a tour with two superstars except for 1479 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: jay Z and Beyonce. And I don't even know if 1480 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: jay Z would be consider a superstar. 1481 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 6: We're not doing that another one that was a superstar tour. 1482 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 3: Jay Z is a superstar. We're not doing that. We're 1483 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 3: not doing that. Jay Z is a superstar, y you 1484 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 3: cat in. 1485 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 6: I mean, we don't need to, we don't need topics. Stop, 1486 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 6: just stopper. 1487 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 3: Jay Z is not a superstar. Just stop, yo, what's up? 1488 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 6: Star? No, Jalen Brunton is a star. Jay Z is 1489 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 6: a He's a mega star. In my world, jay Z 1490 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 6: is a fucking superstar. We are you talking about star? 1491 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 6: Are you crazy? 1492 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 1: I just reserved that for people that I named. 1493 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 6: He started a billionaire walk like he walks with billionaires 1494 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 6: in the morning just to get his steps in. 1495 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 3: That's superstar shit are you talking? 1496 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: No, that's a that's a superstar business man. 1497 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 6: What however, you. 1498 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 3: Want to again put as much cut on the dope 1499 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 3: as you want, jay Z. 1500 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 1: You know I'm a whole avenger that I would say 1501 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: that Michael Jackson and jay Z should be in the 1502 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: same sentence. But if somebody was being objective and put 1503 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: up the stats of both of those people, they do 1504 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: not belong in the same sentence. 1505 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 6: But do you keep saying, Michael Jackson ain't no superstar, 1506 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 6: fucking god, like that's what I'm saying, Like you care 1507 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 6: about Michael Jackson, Taylor Swift, Beyonce are not superstars there 1508 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 6: they are surpassed that. That's what that's why they bring. 1509 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 1: Maybe that's where our disconnecting this conversation is done. If 1510 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: going off the definitions you guys are saying, then yes, 1511 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: jay Z's is a superstar. If we're having the level 1512 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: of megastar in this mix, jay Z is a superstar. 1513 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: Cardi is still just a star even if we're adding 1514 01:03:58,760 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 1: megastars in this mix. 1515 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 6: Yeah I don't. Yeah, I'm not really going with that. 1516 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 6: But again, I'm using an old school definition. So but 1517 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 6: I think this is our a list conversation all over again, 1518 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 6: and I think that we just all. 1519 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't want to get back to the point 1520 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 1: of if labels can just do that, why don't they 1521 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: do it more? That was my original point too. 1522 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 5: Yes, well again because everybody doesn't have that thing about them. 1523 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 5: They don't have that air about them, they don't have 1524 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 5: that presence, they don't have that you know, that thing. 1525 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 5: Sometimes they try it with certain people and it just 1526 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 5: doesn't work. But again when you have certain people, sometimes 1527 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 5: they get it right. And I just think that, you know, 1528 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 5: we got to start just acknowledging, like, yeah, no, definitely 1529 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 5: they push the buttons on that artist to make it 1530 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 5: a little Artists are talented artists, you know has that thing. 1531 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 5: But the labels definitely do a thing where they're like, yo, listen, 1532 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 5: we're going to pull out all the stops for this person. 1533 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 6: But it's usually because that person absolutely do that. 1534 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 3: But it's because that person, again, we have that thing. 1535 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 6: So then so then the deciding factor is not the labels, 1536 01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 6: because again the labels try it with some people and 1537 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 6: it doesn't work. Then this deciding factor is that artist, 1538 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 6: which goes back to the labels. Cannot just push a 1539 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 6: button and make an artist a star. This the artist 1540 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 6: has to have star quality already. 1541 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we are actually kind of all agreeing 1542 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 1: with each other in a weird argumentative way. No, I 1543 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: don't call that, but even like I will say Eminem 1544 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 1: would probably not be a superstar if he did not 1545 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 1: have Jimmy Iveen, Interscope, doctor Dre. He would still be 1546 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: an extremely talented, talented rapper, one of the greatest people 1547 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 1: to pick up a pen. But yes, the majors made 1548 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: him a superstar, but that came with his talent as well. 1549 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 1: I think there is deciding factors where people wouldn't have 1550 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 1: been superstars if they didn't have a major, but they 1551 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: still would be talented. 1552 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a lot of people that are talented. 1553 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 5: Talent is something that a lot of people, you know, 1554 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 5: in music or film and things like that, that they have. 1555 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 3: But again, sometimes talent is just not enough. 1556 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 5: I know a lot of talented people and I'm like, damn, 1557 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 5: why are you not You way more talented than this person. 1558 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 3: Why your shit ain't And there's other things. 1559 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 5: Work ethic, you know, things like that, that factor, and 1560 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 5: you know, little attributes that. 1561 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 3: You need as well. 1562 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 5: When you're talking about superstar shit, you have to be 1563 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 5: you know, you have to go literally, you know, blackout 1564 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 5: into what your art, your craft, lose friendships, not speak 1565 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 5: to your family. You got to be willing to go 1566 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 5: down those type of holes to just become who you 1567 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 5: want to become, and some people are not willing to 1568 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 5: do that. But more times than none, if. 1569 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 3: A person has that air, that quality about them and 1570 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 3: they have just a little talent, labels will push a 1571 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 3: button to magnify that little talent that that person has 1572 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 3: because they believe this person is a star. Why they 1573 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 3: might not be as talented as they may not be 1574 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 3: able to sing like Whitney. 1575 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 1: But and to me, outside of Rihanna's taste level, her quality, 1576 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 1: to me, her real, real raw talent is hard work because, 1577 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 1: as were saying, when she first came out, it wasn't 1578 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: like obvious that she was gonna be the next one. 1579 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: She worked her fucking ass off to even get to 1580 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 1: that point where her vocals weren't the best but could 1581 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 1: make number one records. Like I went to early Rihanna 1582 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: show and then I went to the was unapologetic to her. 1583 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 1: The difference in her performances was insane. There's no way 1584 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 1: you do that and improve like that if you're not 1585 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: one of the hardest working people. 1586 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 5: I mean, we yeah, that's part of it, but again, 1587 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 5: you know, we've seen what Cassie looked like early and 1588 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 5: we thought it was going to be something we thought, 1589 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 5: I mean, we. 1590 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 3: Thought she was on her way. 1591 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 5: What Ryan Leslie was doing with her, the music that 1592 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 5: they were creating, undeniable records. 1593 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Me and You was there another undeniable Castie record. 1594 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 1: Me and You was a class. 1595 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 6: I missed your girl, I miss you girl. I'm gonna 1596 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 6: make you my official girl and long long way Togo, 1597 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 6: but official girl with Lil Wayne. She had some for sure. 1598 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 6: I think at one point Tierra Marie might have had 1599 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 6: a bigger record than Rihanna. 1600 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So this is what I'm saying. So you know 1601 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: she was a priority at before. This is when I'm 1602 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: playing they were there at the same time. Yeah, but 1603 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 1: kream where I stopped. Look at the difference in that, 1604 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 1: you can't Rihanna's undeniable with her hard work, and even 1605 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 1: if she wasn't. 1606 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 5: Understand it for sure she did that. I ain't mean 1607 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 5: a scream at you. I don't know if, but I 1608 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 5: ain't mean to do that to you. 1609 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 6: I mean, but to Ma's point, Tiera Marie might to 1610 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 6: Tierra Marie might be on that side of it's not 1611 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 6: about how work. They came and saw this, this light 1612 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 6: skinned girl, and they pushed the button on her and 1613 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 6: I was left in the dust even though I had 1614 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 6: the talent. 1615 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Listen, So I'm not saying that you can't push the 1616 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,840 Speaker 1: button and have your moment. A label can create a 1617 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: moment an artist once not fucking deserve it all. I'm 1618 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 1: not saying that, but you see, when they're not talented 1619 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,720 Speaker 1: or have that edge factor, it was just a momently 1620 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 1: because they pushed that button. Of course, Tia Marie, she 1621 01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,600 Speaker 1: was like, what's seventeen eighteen? Like, I don't want to 1622 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: like say this if she did write the record, but 1623 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 1: I'm assuming like she was given that record. They put 1624 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: a crazy budget behind the video of course, serviced one 1625 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 1: or six of Park Trol put jay Z in the 1626 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,719 Speaker 1: fucking video. Like yeah, those were button pushing shit. Yeah, 1627 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 1: but you see that that's not the only thing that 1628 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,679 Speaker 1: can keep someone around. But also, to her credit, label 1629 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 1: politics fucked her shit up as well. It wasn't I 1630 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 1: don't want to say, like, yo, she didn't work hard 1631 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,360 Speaker 1: and that's why she didn't make it. A lot of 1632 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,639 Speaker 1: funck shit was happening. Timing is a huge thing too. Timing, 1633 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 1: luck and politics also are factors and all that. 1634 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 5: You know, it's other things that play into being you know, 1635 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 5: getting to that superstar level, but you know, the label 1636 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 5: recognizing that, you know, we have something here. 1637 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 3: Let's kind of like amplify this. Let's kind of like 1638 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 3: put the nitrous oxide in the front. Like I think 1639 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 3: it works. 1640 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: I think a Mill had some of the worst timing ever. 1641 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Like I feel for her. I think she was on 1642 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 1: her way, but what was going on at Rock of 1643 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: Fell around the time she was starting to have her 1644 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: moment moment was fucked up. Yeah, so even though she 1645 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 1: was super talented, no buttons could be pushed at that time, 1646 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,599 Speaker 1: and everything broke off and she was, you know, only 1647 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 1: relying on them to put the music out. So timing 1648 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: is a huge thing as well. 1649 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, timing is everything. 1650 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 1: But with that said, Playbook Cardi is nice. 1651 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 3: He tripped. I can't wait. 1652 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 5: I can't wait for play with Cardi to announce a 1653 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,880 Speaker 5: surprise show and then you just see exactly how Yeah 1654 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 5: it'll be nuts and then he won't show up. That's 1655 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 5: superstar shit. Only the superstars could do that. That's reserved 1656 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,679 Speaker 5: for the superstars. I got a show and I won't 1657 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,760 Speaker 5: be there and it's still sold out. Yeah, superstar shit. 1658 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,639 Speaker 1: Outside of like money, legacy and all that I do 1659 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 1: envy that I can't do superstars. She like when Mariah Carey, 1660 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 1: the rumors would be like she needs like a hundred 1661 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 1: puppies on her rider in the green room, like only 1662 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 1: yellow Eminem's. 1663 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 3: And shit, yeah superstar shit. 1664 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: Like I kind of wish I could get some of 1665 01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 1: that shit because I feel like I'd get really really 1666 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: creative if I had the juice where somebody like, well, 1667 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:03,679 Speaker 1: we have to get your hundred puppies. 1668 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 3: Exactly, superstars that have. 1669 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 6: To get hundred puppies reserve for select few. 1670 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: I forgot what artist it was that kind of explained 1671 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 1: insane riders. That did make sense because there was always 1672 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 1: articles about like artists is being super divas and like 1673 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: look how weird these people are what they make venues 1674 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,759 Speaker 1: go through. He said, yeah, I only put yellow Eminem's 1675 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: on my rider because when I walk in the green room, 1676 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: if they did that, I know everything else is covered. Yeah, okay, 1677 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 1: they put little weird detail ship and that would be 1678 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 1: the same fact that they cover. But they did that, 1679 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 1: then the ship I really need, like the right water 1680 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 1: where like they did it. Then it's just to force 1681 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 1: people to pay attention to details, which makes sense. 1682 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 3: I understand that. I could definitely understand that. Yeah, yeah, 1683 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 3: but my bad. 1684 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I gave the little animated you 1685 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 5: look excited and you know, my guy, my friend, I 1686 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 5: don't want to listen. 1687 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I forgive you on Mike and then 1688 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 1: hold in my actual resentments and just be passive aggressive. 1689 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 1: But talk to my therapist about it and not ever 1690 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 1: to you. 1691 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 5: No, but do you think that because it is it 1692 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 5: is healthy for I think friends to debate and argunion. 1693 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,639 Speaker 1: Of course I don't know. I never take that ship. 1694 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 5: No, no, no, I know that. But have you ever 1695 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 5: like physically fought one of your friends? 1696 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1697 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 3: And are y'all still friends? 1698 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1699 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 1: We're friends since like real friends. 1700 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 3: But when did y'all fight? 1701 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 1: I was about saying it was in high school, like 1702 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: when I was okay, yeah, I'm talking about it was. 1703 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,719 Speaker 1: It was over a fucking bed at a sleepover. We scratched, 1704 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 1: like we That was like the first time I really 1705 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 1: felt like like sore as fuck after a fight the 1706 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 1: next day was a lot to. 1707 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 6: JOA was probably fighting for mad long too, just dumb. 1708 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:44,080 Speaker 5: I don't think you could ever really well as teenagers. Yes, 1709 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 5: I can understand, but as an adult, do you think 1710 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 5: that you could fight, like physically fight a friend and 1711 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:52,680 Speaker 5: go back to being friends. 1712 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: Not not as an adult. 1713 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't think I don't. As an adult, I don't 1714 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 3: think so. 1715 01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 1: I think high school younger, like that is kind of 1716 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 1: part of growing up, like you definitely fight with the 1717 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: people in your neighborhood that are your friends, Like I 1718 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 1: don't know, just growing up with kid emotions that that 1719 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: can happen, and as long as you know there's no 1720 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,040 Speaker 1: grinding shit, you can move on and just be friends. 1721 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 1: As an adult, though, I think that's kind of weird, yah, 1722 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 1: because I feel like if I even think adults should 1723 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,599 Speaker 1: really fight like that, if it's not a legitimate fucking reason, 1724 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 1: so let alone with a friend, Like I'm not fighting 1725 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: my now, yeah, thirty four years old, I'm not going 1726 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:24,640 Speaker 1: to do no. 1727 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 5: I just think that you know, younger, you don't understand. 1728 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 5: We don't well, we didn't understand how to express certain 1729 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,799 Speaker 5: emotions and certain things we was feeling, you know, as 1730 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 5: young males. But as a grown man, I think if 1731 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,840 Speaker 5: you get into like you go to blows with like 1732 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 5: one of your. 1733 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 3: Friends, I don't think that y'all are real friends. 1734 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 5: I think that there's something that one of y'all would 1735 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 5: kind of like harboring and it just came to a head. 1736 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 5: And sure, because I've been down that road, Like you 1737 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 5: have like little debates with a friend and they'll say 1738 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,639 Speaker 5: something and you'd be like, I just need a reason, 1739 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,760 Speaker 5: like you just holding like you tell when they was 1740 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 5: holding that, Like, Yo, you've been waiting to get that off? 1741 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:03,759 Speaker 3: Because what we're. 1742 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 6: Talking about right like Playboy cart Yeah? Yeah, Like because 1743 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,759 Speaker 6: what we are Playboy KARTI ain't gonna bring that emotion 1744 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 6: out of you, like you ain't gonna tell me like yeah, 1745 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 6: and I ain't like what you just like wait, what 1746 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,160 Speaker 6: was this party? 1747 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:14,360 Speaker 2: Shit? 1748 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:14,679 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1749 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,760 Speaker 5: But like nah, as grown men, I don't think that 1750 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 5: you could come into like a physical blows with your 1751 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,719 Speaker 5: friend and it'd be like, nah, were back homes. 1752 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 1: I just don't like when I've seen a new feeling 1753 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 1: for me. Though, I will say I never fought any 1754 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,719 Speaker 1: of my friends in my twenties or the early thirties 1755 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 1: and anything, but I would probably if you asked me 1756 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 1: that question a couple of years ago, I would say, yes, 1757 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 1: it would have to be a legitimate, real reason to fight. 1758 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 1: And I think you guys can go back to being 1759 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: friends at thirty four going on thirty five. No, I'm 1760 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 1: not going to. 1761 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 3: A friend of mine. 1762 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm not having an altercation physically with my friends. 1763 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,719 Speaker 5: A friend of mine called me out for a fight 1764 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 5: one time. Well he didn't call me out, but it 1765 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,799 Speaker 5: it almost came to like we almost came to blows. 1766 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 3: But I knew. 1767 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 5: I knew what it was because we had conversation like 1768 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 5: a couple of weeks before, and I knew what he 1769 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 5: was dealing with and going through. So in that moment 1770 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,040 Speaker 5: where he was like it seemed like he wanted to fight. 1771 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,759 Speaker 5: If you were there, I looked like I got pumped 1772 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 5: because I was. 1773 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 3: Like, yo, you know what, you got it? But I 1774 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 3: knew why he was. 1775 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,599 Speaker 5: You know, those emotions was there because we had had 1776 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 5: like a real talk. He was going through some things, 1777 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 5: you know, financially, he wasn't in the greatest space. So 1778 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 5: it got a little but I recognized it, and I 1779 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 5: was like, you got it, bro, you know what I'm saying, 1780 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 5: And that's my you know, that's like a friend. But 1781 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,680 Speaker 5: I knew in that moment if I responded with aggression, 1782 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 5: we would have came to blows and it would have 1783 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,800 Speaker 5: been whacked because I know what he was really going 1784 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,920 Speaker 5: through at the time, and that energy wasn't for me. 1785 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,799 Speaker 1: No, of course, of course it wouldn't be in that regard. 1786 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: You just have to learn how to carry your emotions 1787 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 1: because fighting you wouldn't get him out of that financials 1788 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: is that? 1789 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 3: No? 1790 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 1: No, there was no grandpa at the end of the fight. 1791 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 1792 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean unless he like robbed you for your debit 1793 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,920 Speaker 1: card and ran right to the ATM before you could 1794 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 1: cancel it. That's the tree after he beat you up live. 1795 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,000 Speaker 3: Maybe that's different. 1796 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 2: Yo. 1797 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 5: JD is calling me, Yo, my brother, j D. How 1798 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 5: you feeling what's happening? 1799 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 3: I'm good, bro. 1800 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 5: So we was just in there talking and your tweet, 1801 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 5: you know, came up that you tweeted out last night, 1802 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 5: and me and Rory were talking. I said, I know 1803 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,680 Speaker 5: JD was probably in the studio having one of them 1804 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,840 Speaker 5: conversations and just wanted to get the feeling, the vibe 1805 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 5: of the outside world and see what they were they 1806 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 5: were feeling. 1807 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 4: But uh so. 1808 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,719 Speaker 5: About the tweet, how did that? How did that come about? 1809 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 5: What was you in in the studio talking about? Because 1810 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 5: I know that's where he was at. 1811 01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in the studio actually by myself though 1812 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 2: I was actually I saw something that said Instagram had 1813 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 2: they made a new function. That is the guy the 1814 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,960 Speaker 2: commercial said it could be the greatest thing. 1815 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 4: For independent artists. 1816 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,519 Speaker 2: And at that at that second, I'm like, okay, So 1817 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 2: he left out major artists, he said independent artists only. 1818 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,040 Speaker 2: So then I'm like, okay, so let me So I'm 1819 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:06,600 Speaker 2: checking it out and looking and see what it is. 1820 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,799 Speaker 2: And it says that you know, you could play independent 1821 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 2: artists could play their new music for their fans for 1822 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 2: thirty seconds in the DM and it helps the algorithm 1823 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 2: at Spotify, right. So so I mean at that point 1824 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 2: I'm just like okay, cool. So then I just want to, 1825 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 2: like I said, I this is just made me ask 1826 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 2: like what is the special thing. 1827 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 4: About being independent? Like the special thing? Right? And I 1828 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 4: was just. 1829 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 2: Reading right now waiting on you to call me that 1830 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 2: you can go this way. That that Steve Stout wrote ownership, control, 1831 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 2: freedom of all all the things that have been taken 1832 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 2: from artists since the beginning of time. 1833 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:50,800 Speaker 3: I mean that that was his response. That was his 1834 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 3: response to you. 1835 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's his response that from artists. That's the answer. 1836 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:57,759 Speaker 4: That's the answer. 1837 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 2: I just was saying, like, you know, and in anything 1838 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,280 Speaker 2: that we do, it's a special it's a special thing 1839 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,960 Speaker 2: or reason why you want to go to the NBA. 1840 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,639 Speaker 4: If you're in college, it's. 1841 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,480 Speaker 2: A special reason that you want to go to the NFL. 1842 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 2: If you play Pop Warner, it's a special reason that 1843 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,000 Speaker 2: you go to Paris for. 1844 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 4: Fashion Week. 1845 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,680 Speaker 2: It's a special reason, right, I just wanted to I 1846 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 2: was asking what is a special reason. 1847 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1848 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 2: And it's crazy that people got so mad about the question, 1849 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:36,160 Speaker 2: because yeah, but I'm saying, when people get mad, it starts. 1850 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 4: It lets me know that there's. 1851 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,639 Speaker 2: Something else going on because you can't. 1852 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 4: You can't. 1853 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 2: You can ask me a question. 1854 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:43,120 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get. 1855 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 2: Mad like you asked me any question you want to 1856 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 2: ask me. I'm not gonna get mad and start saying 1857 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:48,680 Speaker 2: crazy shit to you, like. 1858 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 4: Well, because well you know what I mean. 1859 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:53,680 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do I don't have a reason to 1860 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,639 Speaker 2: do that. And it's it's like and ultimately, like I said, 1861 01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,639 Speaker 2: I wasn't picking at nobody. 1862 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,639 Speaker 4: That's independent. If that's what you do, that's cool. 1863 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,040 Speaker 2: But I'm also saying, if I was a person that 1864 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,600 Speaker 2: just was coming a bud, coming into the world, and 1865 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 2: I was like, I want to I want to go independent. 1866 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,320 Speaker 2: And I ask somebody, what's the special what's what's special. 1867 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 4: About me being if I go independent? 1868 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:20,880 Speaker 2: And you told me ownership, control and freedom, I'm I'm, 1869 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna be left with looking for something. I 1870 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,880 Speaker 2: maybe I'm maybe I'm maybe my goals are too high, 1871 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 2: but that that doesn't give me enough because I know 1872 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:36,240 Speaker 2: people who are going to masters, they get their ownership myself. 1873 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,280 Speaker 2: I know people who's going to to to to the 1874 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 2: to the to the majors, and they get control myself. 1875 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 2: I know people that's going to majors and they get 1876 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 2: the freedom to put out whatever. 1877 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 4: They want myself, right. 1878 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 2: And and I've seen other people do this, right. I 1879 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 2: have seen it where these labels hire people who get in. 1880 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 4: The way, right, and they get in a way. 1881 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,439 Speaker 2: Of people like myself, and then it's a problem. But 1882 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,759 Speaker 2: it's all business, right, It's all business, and it's all 1883 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 2: that's the part that I'm trying to make sure people 1884 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,480 Speaker 2: and a younger generation of people understand. 1885 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:13,839 Speaker 4: It's all business. 1886 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 2: Right. 1887 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,440 Speaker 4: And you say better contracts. 1888 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 2: I don't, that's not that's not a specialty of going independent, 1889 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:26,080 Speaker 2: because better contracts is based on your business mindset, the 1890 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,760 Speaker 2: lawyer that you have, and how you create a deal. 1891 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 4: It's all about you know what I mean. 1892 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 2: Like Magic Johnson was offered stocking to Nike and he 1893 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:35,360 Speaker 2: didn't take it. 1894 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan did deal. 1895 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,799 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's mother made the Nike deal. 1896 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,280 Speaker 4: And Michael Jordan's a billionaire. 1897 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 2: Right, It's all about business. It's not and even in sports, 1898 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,920 Speaker 2: right when you look at sports and you look at fashion, right, 1899 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 2: I looking at for real? 1900 01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:49,400 Speaker 4: Right. 1901 01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 2: Pharell became the creative director of Louis Vuitton. That's a 1902 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,080 Speaker 2: company that he doesn't own. He works there now he's 1903 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 2: a creative director. He has a deal with mo Ed, 1904 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 2: he has to deal with Tiffany. Why ain't nobody saying 1905 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,679 Speaker 2: why ain't for real creating his own clothing and doing 1906 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's interesting to me that 1907 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:15,479 Speaker 2: only in the music business we have this mentality, and 1908 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:16,719 Speaker 2: every other. 1909 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 4: Business in the world is the same. It's just business. 1910 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,439 Speaker 2: So that's all I was asking. I would I wasn't 1911 01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,320 Speaker 2: really trying to what did y'all think when y'all ready. 1912 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 5: Well I said, I started with well JD did say, 1913 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 5: I'm a little lost. So I started with that. I said, 1914 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,800 Speaker 5: I think that people read that the you know, they 1915 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,479 Speaker 5: read it out of context. I thought that if you, 1916 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,640 Speaker 5: if they if you posted a video asking it, I 1917 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 5: think people would have understood the context. 1918 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 2: I went. I did. I went to that's what I'm saying, 1919 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,240 Speaker 2: that's what the Steve Stout coming is on my on 1920 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:48,040 Speaker 2: my Instagram page. So I posted I went live because 1921 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,759 Speaker 2: somebody on there said, JD you tripping and I said, Okay, 1922 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go live so you can tell me why 1923 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,599 Speaker 2: I'm tripping, because all I did was ask a question. 1924 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 4: I didn't even say nothing. 1925 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how I'm tripping by asking question. 1926 01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 3: No, I totally understand that. 1927 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,479 Speaker 5: And we was in here saying, like, you know, I 1928 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,759 Speaker 5: think that it got what you asked was out of context. 1929 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 5: People didn't understand the context of it, because I did 1930 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 5: feel like you were just trying to figure out, like, well, 1931 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,680 Speaker 5: what is it that y'all want? And you know, if 1932 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,559 Speaker 5: y'all want to be independent, but y'all want the same 1933 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 5: thing that the majors want, So what is it that 1934 01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:22,679 Speaker 5: y'all want on the indie level? 1935 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,599 Speaker 3: Like what are y'all after? What are y'all chasing and 1936 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 3: like you say, you. 1937 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 5: Know, you've gotten control of your own your masters, and 1938 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 5: gotten all of this creative freedom and to do whatever 1939 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,559 Speaker 5: you want on a major as well. So again it's 1940 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 5: all up to how you structure your deal and go 1941 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:36,599 Speaker 5: after what you want. 1942 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,639 Speaker 3: But you can do that on a major level. You don't. 1943 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 5: You can't because you can have a terrible indie deal 1944 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,679 Speaker 5: as well. You can have a terrible situation independent as well. 1945 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,200 Speaker 2: Like I look at like like Saint Fancis Kanye deal 1946 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,400 Speaker 2: that was at def Camp. From my understanding, Kanye had 1947 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 2: one of the most glorified deals that Universal has ever 1948 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 2: given an artist. 1949 01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 4: Period right. 1950 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:03,720 Speaker 2: It's just one of the biggest favor any artist period right. 1951 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,960 Speaker 2: And and as a as a as a person, if 1952 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 2: you're good and your music is great, like Kanye's music, 1953 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,639 Speaker 2: you can get whatever you want. I think that that's 1954 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:15,920 Speaker 2: a I think that's another thing. 1955 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,640 Speaker 4: That people don't understand, you know. 1956 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 2: And I, like I said, when I when I first 1957 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,719 Speaker 2: started making music, the goal was to make a demo 1958 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 2: hit the streets, run around New York, go to l 1959 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,600 Speaker 2: a meet, have meetings and talk to. 1960 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 4: People and see if you're gonna get signed. 1961 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 6: I get it now. 1962 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 4: It's just like you just put the music out. I 1963 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:36,599 Speaker 4: get it. 1964 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,679 Speaker 2: So I mean but that, but like I said, none 1965 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,040 Speaker 2: of that was what my question was. 1966 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:44,440 Speaker 4: I'm just asking what is the perk of being independent? 1967 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 2: And I guess, like I said, Steve stopped being you know, 1968 01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,360 Speaker 2: United masters him saying that, I'm I just posted what 1969 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,920 Speaker 2: he said because I guess that's the that's it. You 1970 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:58,760 Speaker 2: just get freedom and creative control and that's it, right, 1971 01:23:58,880 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 2: So cool. 1972 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 3: But you had that, You've had that on the major yourself. 1973 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, like I'm saying, I've seen by the way 1974 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,439 Speaker 2: I've seen rest in Peace. My brother got it. Erv 1975 01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 2: got it own Murder inc. That's why he sold it, 1976 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He got big bag this 1977 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,320 Speaker 2: and the third he owned it. If you write your music, 1978 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 2: you own all your publishing. 1979 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 4: Anyway, right, So that I don't even have nothing to do 1980 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,040 Speaker 4: with a label or majors or not. 1981 01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 2: Right. I'm a guy that's been writing songs since the 1982 01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,840 Speaker 2: beginning one hundred percent of I don't know nothing about people. 1983 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,960 Speaker 4: Taking my royalties, right, it ain't. 1984 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 3: Put on that. 1985 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, I'm saying, it ain't no 1986 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 2: other names for me to put on the records for 1987 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,960 Speaker 2: it to go that direction. If you writing your own 1988 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,479 Speaker 2: music and you're sitting in the studio every night, the 1989 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:45,440 Speaker 2: credit automatic. 1990 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,960 Speaker 4: I mean, you know it's an automatically coming. You gotta 1991 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 4: fight for what you got to do. 1992 01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,080 Speaker 2: It's just part of business. And like I said, I 1993 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,840 Speaker 2: wasn't trying to shoot on nobody. I was really just 1994 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,680 Speaker 2: asking a real question. I didn't know that niggas is 1995 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 2: gonna get mad at you. But I'm like God, because 1996 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying I still don't understand why the guy on 1997 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 2: Instagram said this is be the. 1998 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,000 Speaker 4: Thing for independent artists. Why can't just be the thing 1999 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 4: for everybody? 2000 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,760 Speaker 3: Right right, Okay, I'll see what you're saying. 2001 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:11,680 Speaker 2: What is what is? 2002 01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 4: What is it? What is it? What is like? 2003 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,280 Speaker 2: That's that's what really made me say, Okay, so wait, 2004 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,400 Speaker 2: why is this special for independent artists? And he's not 2005 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 2: saying this could be crazy for musical artists period. 2006 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:23,720 Speaker 3: I get it. 2007 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,960 Speaker 2: And then somebody then last night, somebody told me when 2008 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,720 Speaker 2: they got on the phone, they was like, you know, 2009 01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 2: JD is because an independent artist, we need everything that 2010 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,280 Speaker 2: we can get, so any little thing that we can 2011 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,560 Speaker 2: get is a special thing for us. And That's what 2012 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,840 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like it's all worth conversation and talking. But 2013 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,760 Speaker 2: people just get mad about you asking a question. 2014 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,720 Speaker 5: It's crazy they taking it, they taking it personal, like 2015 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 5: you asking them directly why you want to be independent? 2016 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,880 Speaker 3: Like that's how a lot of people took that. 2017 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 4: I don't care. 2018 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:58,680 Speaker 3: I was offended, he said, he. 2019 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:00,679 Speaker 4: You got offends. 2020 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm saying, not for real, I don't. 2021 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:05,920 Speaker 2: I don't that part. 2022 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 4: I don't get. 2023 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,479 Speaker 2: I don't understand that because I'm like, all I did 2024 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:08,960 Speaker 2: was ask. 2025 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,679 Speaker 4: You, like, what is the special thing? 2026 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:17,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like niggas, niggas bought Louis Vaton Timberland's special, right? 2027 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 4: Right? 2028 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 2: I remember a time in my life when I said 2029 01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,840 Speaker 2: I would never pay two thousand dollars for a pair 2030 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:23,320 Speaker 2: of shoes. 2031 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,320 Speaker 4: It was a time in my life. 2032 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:29,400 Speaker 2: When I said this, right, But then I start chasing special, right, 2033 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 2: you start chasing special. Niggas want niggas buys niggas got 2034 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,960 Speaker 2: sneaker collections. Niggas buying two thousand dollars Jordans. 2035 01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:37,919 Speaker 4: Why because they special? 2036 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 2: So that's all I'm asking, what's special about being independent? 2037 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:43,639 Speaker 3: Right? 2038 01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 5: I totally understand that before we let you go. We 2039 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 5: had another conversation. Do you believe that Playboy Carti is 2040 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:50,920 Speaker 5: a superstar? 2041 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 4: Yes, but without the music. 2042 01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,080 Speaker 3: I still don't understand it. 2043 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,760 Speaker 5: Like I believe he's a but I can't attach it 2044 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,880 Speaker 5: to the like I don't know the music. 2045 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:09,960 Speaker 2: Because SUPERSTARUM SUPERSTARUM is not musically connected all at all times, right, 2046 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 2: Like I thought Chris Klass from Superstars when I first 2047 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,800 Speaker 2: saw them, and then we didn't have. 2048 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,400 Speaker 4: No music, right, that's what made me. That's what there 2049 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:18,719 Speaker 4: was something to work. 2050 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I believe that people can be superstars without 2051 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,240 Speaker 2: the music, you know what I mean? I think that 2052 01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 2: I think that we connect the two together. I don't. 2053 01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,200 Speaker 2: I don't because, like I said, I can see an 2054 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 2: artist walking down the street, or I can see a 2055 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,040 Speaker 2: person moving around and just be like, okay, I see 2056 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:35,720 Speaker 2: how people. 2057 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:36,479 Speaker 1: Paying attention to this person. 2058 01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 2: They start, they got something about them, and then then 2059 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,719 Speaker 2: if you put the music for them, that the right music, 2060 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 2: then it all it all adds up. I think that 2061 01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,719 Speaker 2: that's what from what from what I. 2062 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,120 Speaker 4: Hear, right, because I never really. 2063 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 2: Go to Rolling Loud and see Playboy Cardi perform and 2064 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,360 Speaker 2: all that, but from what I hear and when people 2065 01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,720 Speaker 2: tell me to his performances and all of this type 2066 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 2: of stuff. The way that people react. They're reacting as 2067 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 2: if he's a superstar. 2068 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,400 Speaker 5: Right, but it's yeah, but you can't connect it to 2069 01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:06,480 Speaker 5: the music necessarily. 2070 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,600 Speaker 3: It's something about him. It's a quality about him. 2071 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a musical thing to me. It's more 2072 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 2: it's got to be all about his personality, his swag. 2073 01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 4: The way you know, his aura aura. 2074 01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. 2075 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,040 Speaker 1: You be feeling his aura? 2076 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 3: No, not me, all right, Bro, just wanted to get 2077 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:25,760 Speaker 3: some clarity on that. 2078 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:31,000 Speaker 5: I appreciate you for calling me back, man. 2079 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:34,760 Speaker 1: Bro, all right, I want to have that conversation with 2080 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,559 Speaker 1: him in person, because I wasn't gonna I'm gonna let 2081 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 1: him get a ship off yelling. 2082 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 3: About the independent thing. 2083 01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm lost how he would be lost in that? 2084 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,080 Speaker 1: If whatever this programming was talking about that he saw 2085 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 1: the ad for. It's harder for independent artists to get 2086 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 1: in the algorithms, to get on the Spotify playlist, to 2087 01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,600 Speaker 1: get all that. It is much easier for someone on 2088 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,760 Speaker 1: a major to get that. So if there's a program 2089 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,479 Speaker 1: that is allowing artists to get into those algorithms without 2090 01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:06,000 Speaker 1: having to be on a major, that's only important for 2091 01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:11,920 Speaker 1: independent artists because that program people on Majors already have. 2092 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 1: It's called it the entire Digital Team. But no, I know, 2093 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,200 Speaker 1: I agree that Majors will get you on a playlist 2094 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,360 Speaker 1: before independent all day. It's harder for independent artists do that. 2095 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,960 Speaker 1: So of course I see why whoever was advertising that 2096 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,160 Speaker 1: would try to cater it to the people it would 2097 01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:32,639 Speaker 1: matter the most. 2098 01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:32,800 Speaker 4: Two. 2099 01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,680 Speaker 1: So that's where I'm confused with JD has confused that. 2100 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:43,080 Speaker 1: And also yes, JD owns his masters. IRV Gotti owned 2101 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,679 Speaker 1: half his Masters. They had joint ventures with major labels 2102 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:51,880 Speaker 1: because they had a proven track record that was undeniable. 2103 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,559 Speaker 1: There is no risk if I do a deal with 2104 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,320 Speaker 1: IRV Gotti. Look at what he's brought this building. But 2105 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 1: IRV didn't get any percentage at all when he brought 2106 01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,799 Speaker 1: DMX to the building, when he brought JA to the building. 2107 01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,840 Speaker 1: But they said, oh, IRV has brought our last two 2108 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,320 Speaker 1: superstars and he's got this Godjy rule, we should do 2109 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,760 Speaker 1: a joint venture. And IRV had the leverage at that 2110 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,920 Speaker 1: point to say, dog, no, you need to give me 2111 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,920 Speaker 1: proof of this is a fifty to fifty joint venture 2112 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,439 Speaker 1: that we're doing and because IRV had proved himself. JD 2113 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,160 Speaker 1: before he did the Soco Deaf joint venture, had proved 2114 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:29,080 Speaker 1: himself to be a fucking genius. So JD speaking from 2115 01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 1: a deserved, privileged place, like not everybody is. IRV and 2116 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,280 Speaker 1: JD they had leverage, which is tough to have and 2117 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,160 Speaker 1: it takes time and you've to sign a shitty deal usually. 2118 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,160 Speaker 3: Before and so they had they had movie about. 2119 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:45,920 Speaker 1: Talent, undeniable talent, and proof that they were profitable. Fuck talent. 2120 01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,080 Speaker 1: We know you can make hit records. Absolutely, So I 2121 01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,200 Speaker 1: don't really understand what JD was saying at all. Still, 2122 01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 1: even in. 2123 01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 3: Context, I'll text him and telling that, so you can 2124 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:55,559 Speaker 3: have a. 2125 01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 1: No, I love to over some vegan ice cream. I 2126 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,840 Speaker 1: would love to which I need to get a They 2127 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,560 Speaker 1: saw it at Walmart Target, I gotta get it was 2128 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:05,960 Speaker 1: really good. 2129 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,599 Speaker 3: It might be another stores now, but I know at 2130 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,719 Speaker 3: the time it was and it was definitely a Walmart. 2131 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Even if you're not a vegan but you like ice 2132 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 1: grade ice JD has amazing ice cream, great ice cream. 2133 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a pause somewhere in there, but 2134 01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:22,160 Speaker 1: I just can't find it. No, I was pausing myself 2135 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:28,599 Speaker 1: by saying JD is good ice cream. 2136 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:27,120 Speaker 3: He was being gay. 2137 01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,240 Speaker 5: Roy speaking of Playboy CARDI, he has one week left 2138 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,439 Speaker 5: to drop Iron Music or his label will have to 2139 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,800 Speaker 5: refund all of the pre orders. I don't know if 2140 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,519 Speaker 5: we think that's gonna happen. I think the music will 2141 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,719 Speaker 5: end up coming out. I don't see the labels refunding. 2142 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,360 Speaker 1: If he was independent, he would never do that. 2143 01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 3: Points are made, But I do think the album will 2144 01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:52,679 Speaker 3: come out. I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't 2145 01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:54,360 Speaker 3: see them ever letting go there. 2146 01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever gonna put music out ever again, 2147 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:58,600 Speaker 1: like in life. Yes, I think he like kind of 2148 01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,040 Speaker 1: enjoys what this mystery is now, or he'll put out 2149 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:02,840 Speaker 1: like a blank CD. 2150 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,320 Speaker 3: He might be able to sell a blank CD. 2151 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,479 Speaker 1: Oh, he would definitely sell a blank city Superstar ship. 2152 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 3: See see how. 2153 01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:12,120 Speaker 5: I wrote, I rerilled you right into that. Only superstars 2154 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 5: can do that. 2155 01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:14,920 Speaker 3: I rerilled you right in it. 2156 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,600 Speaker 1: Not only could he do that, he also has the 2157 01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,919 Speaker 1: ability and a fan base that would call it genius classic. 2158 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,040 Speaker 3: I could hear it, yeah, y'all, don't hear it, y'all? No, 2159 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:25,559 Speaker 3: that could be. 2160 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,120 Speaker 5: That would be a thing on Twitter like Yo, y'all 2161 01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 5: really don't hear the music? 2162 01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 6: People like, wait, went over your head? 2163 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, y'all really no, I really hear the music. Ya, 2164 01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,040 Speaker 5: y'all don't hear yah, you're your your ship is blank. 2165 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:36,680 Speaker 5: Like I could see people getting into a back and 2166 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:37,280 Speaker 5: forth about that. 2167 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,960 Speaker 1: I wish that happened with Playboy Cardi's music. I'm mad, 2168 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:41,640 Speaker 1: I have to hear it. 2169 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,400 Speaker 5: Really I I don't really like I said, I don't. 2170 01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:47,519 Speaker 5: I can't connect it. But he is a he is 2171 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:51,479 Speaker 5: a superstar. As far as unclecterned other music coming out tonight, well, 2172 01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 5: if you're reading this, you listen to this is already 2173 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,280 Speaker 5: out jell On Glorilla. 2174 01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long Friday from all because you 2175 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 1: know that's a bona fide hit, jel On Glorilla. I 2176 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,320 Speaker 1: don't even need to hear it. It could be a 2177 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,080 Speaker 1: blank CD. That's a fucking record. 2178 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,400 Speaker 3: That's the labels pushing the button. Back to what I'm. 2179 01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:11,960 Speaker 6: Saying, invested seven million, they pushing noted, that's their button, 2180 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:12,599 Speaker 6: seven million dollars. 2181 01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 3: That's how much a button costs. How much your buttons costs. 2182 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 1: So you're telling me you don't think jell is put 2183 01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,000 Speaker 1: in the necessary even put the work hours to get 2184 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,200 Speaker 1: that global fat No, I. 2185 01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,160 Speaker 5: Don't think he did at all. I don't think he did. 2186 01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,599 Speaker 5: But whatever it is, I ain't hated. Get your money, Gunner, Turbo, 2187 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 5: Classy Girl, Wu Tang has a Mandingo. 2188 01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:33,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know who listen. 2189 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,600 Speaker 5: We gotta talk to to the brothers of Is it 2190 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,280 Speaker 5: an hour? I don't know what it is, but whatever 2191 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,639 Speaker 5: it is, I don't want no parts of man Dingo now, 2192 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,080 Speaker 5: but I'm assuming it's an album though. 2193 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,479 Speaker 1: I feel like there'd be more promo than Wu Tang. 2194 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I know they're going on tour, but I 2195 01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:50,560 Speaker 1: just feel like there'd be more promo putting ot the 2196 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 1: full project. 2197 01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, but whatever it is, I'm I'm 2198 01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,800 Speaker 5: checking it out. Benny the Butcher, The Outcome, Little Dirk, 2199 01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,360 Speaker 5: Deep Thoughts Uh and those are just some of the 2200 01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,240 Speaker 5: projects dropping already out now. If you're listening to this, 2201 01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,880 Speaker 5: so a lot of new music coming out. Good Friday 2202 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:06,360 Speaker 5: for music. 2203 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,400 Speaker 1: I feel crazy even saying this. Benny is gonna be 2204 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,000 Speaker 1: the first album that I hit play on, but I 2205 01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,760 Speaker 1: think Jello and Gloilla is gonna be the first thing 2206 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:14,439 Speaker 1: I go to him at. 2207 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,439 Speaker 5: Night yeah, because you just want to hear if I'm right, 2208 01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 5: just so you can text me and be like, yo, fam. 2209 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:21,599 Speaker 3: You don't want to walk that take back. 2210 01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 1: Anytime Nas puts anything out, I drop what I'm doing 2211 01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,920 Speaker 1: to go listen. You don't think I give a goat 2212 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:28,799 Speaker 1: like Jello the same. 2213 01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 3: Respect, same respect as Nas. I like that for you. 2214 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:32,679 Speaker 1: Is Jello superstar? 2215 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:38,439 Speaker 3: No? Absolutely not, absolutely not, not even. 2216 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,519 Speaker 1: He's on his way like Tyler though. No, he's not 2217 01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:41,160 Speaker 1: the same thing. 2218 01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,519 Speaker 5: It's no, it's not water and what's the name of 2219 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,719 Speaker 5: the other record with Jello's record tweaker? 2220 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,559 Speaker 3: Water and tweak is not the same thing. I mean 2221 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,280 Speaker 3: not smoke. You ain't listen to tweakers. 2222 01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:54,719 Speaker 6: Kissing. 2223 01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:57,400 Speaker 1: You get so mad when I get crazy, bars off 2224 01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,560 Speaker 1: like it's starting to feel like jealousy at this point. 2225 01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 6: Of you, nigga, I mean, man, sir, episode, it's been 2226 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:10,320 Speaker 6: a rough week. 2227 01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:12,479 Speaker 1: I smoked you at the top of the week. 2228 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,800 Speaker 6: So I at the top of the week. By the way, 2229 01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,479 Speaker 6: you were saying, your Instagram comments were saying that you won, 2230 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,400 Speaker 6: but the YouTube comment said and the Twitter comment said 2231 01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:20,680 Speaker 6: I won. 2232 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,200 Speaker 1: No. I went to the YouTube comments after you said that, 2233 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:24,840 Speaker 1: and you misleaded me. You chied to me and they 2234 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:29,920 Speaker 1: played me. No, they don't okay, they say I want okay, everybody, everybody. 2235 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:30,920 Speaker 6: Well, we all see the best. We all see what 2236 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:31,320 Speaker 6: we want. 2237 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,120 Speaker 1: To Wait, wait till the major push that button. 2238 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,519 Speaker 6: From we all see what we want to see. 2239 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,040 Speaker 5: Either way, man, some good music coming out. I am 2240 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,599 Speaker 5: excited to hear what Benny did with this project, saying 2241 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:45,000 Speaker 5: so yeah, definitely listen to that. Support these artists, support 2242 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 5: all dope artists. Man, we need to continue to support 2243 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,479 Speaker 5: dope music. So a lot of good music out this Friday. 2244 01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,760 Speaker 5: What you got going on this weekend? I'll be in 2245 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:52,800 Speaker 5: chilling up in the house. 2246 01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,679 Speaker 3: You can relaxing. Reset. 2247 01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,320 Speaker 1: The way I was outside this week at thirty four 2248 01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:58,639 Speaker 1: is not the same as when I was twenty. 2249 01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,960 Speaker 5: Recovery and you recovery to cover. Yeah, take it, take 2250 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,640 Speaker 5: a nice shower, bath, whatever you gotta do. Soak and 2251 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:05,160 Speaker 5: he plans baby d No. 2252 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,000 Speaker 6: I'm gonna start what's the new show Surrender, Severance. I'm 2253 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,479 Speaker 6: gonna start Severance is great, and we'll start that it's 2254 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:12,440 Speaker 6: dropping Sunday. 2255 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start that Paradise show that you've been talking about. 2256 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,840 Speaker 1: What's what's this blog on this week on My Week 2257 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,280 Speaker 1: and got the special guest Yoms in it. You know 2258 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:22,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna go crazy. 2259 01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:23,800 Speaker 3: Oh your young she shot it. 2260 01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean I assume she's a creative director. 2261 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:28,679 Speaker 3: Shout out to your shout out to Yoming. 2262 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,759 Speaker 5: All right, well, have a safe weekend, be safe, be blessed. 2263 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,320 Speaker 5: We'll talk to you in a couple of days. I'm 2264 01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:33,800 Speaker 5: that nigga. 2265 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,040 Speaker 3: He's just Ginger Peace.