1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,440
Speaker 1: The after after parties at s n L. Well, I've

2
00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,720
Speaker 1: been lucky enough to go to a few. Yeah, And

3
00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,000
Speaker 1: I think it was probably good that I never never

4
00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,680
Speaker 1: was a cast member on that show. I don't know

5
00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,480
Speaker 1: that I could have done twenty of them, just the

6
00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,720
Speaker 1: stamina wise, I mean definitely, like when you start out,

7
00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,200
Speaker 1: you want to go to as many as you can

8
00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,200
Speaker 1: possibly can, and then you kind of grow out of

9
00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,960
Speaker 1: them quickly. By the time I got there. I don't

10
00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,800
Speaker 1: think Bill Hater even went to like the first after

11
00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,120
Speaker 1: party and it was like, what, you're crazy, man, this

12
00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,120
Speaker 1: is the best job ever. We're never gonna die. Uh.

13
00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,720
Speaker 1: And then like halfway through season two, Bill was right.

14
00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:46,160
Speaker 1: It was right. Hi, I am Taran kill him, and

15
00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,879
Speaker 1: I am so excited to talk to my brand new

16
00:00:49,920 --> 00:01:02,040
Speaker 1: friend Brian all about me. Hello there, everybody, and welcome

17
00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,560
Speaker 1: back too off the beat. I'm your host, Brian baum Gartner,

18
00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,160
Speaker 1: my guest today. Well, you just heard Arn kill him.

19
00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,240
Speaker 1: An actor who has lived many, many lives. If you

20
00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,199
Speaker 1: consider yourself a film buff, you'll probably recognize him from

21
00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,320
Speaker 1: twelve years a slave. If you were a Disney or

22
00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,360
Speaker 1: a Nickelodeon kid, you might remember when he was still

23
00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,039
Speaker 1: just a teenage heartthrob. You might recognize him from on

24
00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,000
Speaker 1: stage in Hamilton's as King George the Third, or if

25
00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,440
Speaker 1: you're big into comedy you will know him for sure

26
00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,120
Speaker 1: from his time on SNL or his new Amazon show

27
00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:49,040
Speaker 1: The NFL Pylon. What can this guy not do? Okay,

28
00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,960
Speaker 1: he can sing, he can act, he can rap. Yes,

29
00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,600
Speaker 1: this is true. He's wrapped with many people, including both

30
00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:01,240
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg and Rob Wriggle. And on top of that,

31
00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,840
Speaker 1: he is a master impersonator, which actually helped him get

32
00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,080
Speaker 1: one of his first big breaks. So yeah, it's safe

33
00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,600
Speaker 1: to say, Taren, well, he is skilled at the art

34
00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,800
Speaker 1: of entertaining and that's exactly what he's come here to

35
00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,519
Speaker 1: do today. Well that and talk about the off the

36
00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,400
Speaker 1: beat moments in his life. Of course, with all that said,

37
00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,440
Speaker 1: I am very excited to bring on Well the great

38
00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:38,440
Speaker 1: and Powerful Taran kill him. Bubble and Squeak. I love it,

39
00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,800
Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cooking at every

40
00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:59,920
Speaker 1: month left over from the night before. What's up? Karen Brian?

41
00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,680
Speaker 1: How are you buddy? How good? How are you good? Good?

42
00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,320
Speaker 1: I am in a hotel room in Atlanta, Georgia, so

43
00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,720
Speaker 1: not the ideal not the ideal lighting situation at least understood.

44
00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,440
Speaker 1: I didn't. It was either going to be hotel room

45
00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:20,920
Speaker 1: in Atlanta or like leftover Halloween mood lighting. Yes, speaking

46
00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,440
Speaker 1: of which I do have to comment on the art

47
00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,679
Speaker 1: behind me. Yes, is it? Is it an open pomegranate

48
00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,919
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at? It is congratulations? Yeah, I'm a

49
00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:39,800
Speaker 1: big Yeah, I don't. It seems weirdly disturbing to me.

50
00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,720
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Yeah. Yeah, there it's a

51
00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:49,640
Speaker 1: it's a gruesome the the amount of magnification upon said pomegranate, Yes,

52
00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,240
Speaker 1: too intense, it is. I I have named the piece

53
00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,400
Speaker 1: of art gruesome Fruit. So, by the way, not a

54
00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,280
Speaker 1: terrible tie. It's for a horror movie. No, it's not

55
00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,400
Speaker 1: dart writing Brian copyright me. Um, I think that's all

56
00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,280
Speaker 1: I have to do, right, That's how the guilds work,

57
00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,200
Speaker 1: that is. How are you doing? I'm very well, thank you. Yeah,

58
00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,560
Speaker 1: My my wife and I were actually for the first

59
00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,240
Speaker 1: time you heard about the pandemic. Yeah, so for the

60
00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,359
Speaker 1: first time since the pandemic. Um, my wife and I

61
00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,359
Speaker 1: were invited to like, you know, grown up Halloween parties

62
00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,440
Speaker 1: without our kids and we went to two over the

63
00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:39,240
Speaker 1: weekend and we've aged out. We showed up, We showed up,

64
00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,640
Speaker 1: we got a drink, We like made a beeline for

65
00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,120
Speaker 1: people we knew, We said hi, and then literally did

66
00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,320
Speaker 1: not know what to do with ourselves. We're like, I

67
00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,680
Speaker 1: I miss home. Now I have to ask you a question.

68
00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,800
Speaker 1: Did you dress up? We did? We did. I was

69
00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,920
Speaker 1: sort of like, uh, we both kind of went classic.

70
00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,200
Speaker 1: She was like a vampress and I was a wolfman.

71
00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,640
Speaker 1: All right, I mean that's a that's a d I

72
00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,200
Speaker 1: will say my daughter's friends came over to hang like

73
00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,440
Speaker 1: Friday night to do a little like early Halloween party,

74
00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,520
Speaker 1: and one of her friends showed up in an FBI

75
00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,200
Speaker 1: jacket with a with a warrant to search mar Lago.

76
00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,240
Speaker 1: This is a This is a thirteen year old child

77
00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,440
Speaker 1: who is hipper, funnier, more clever than any costume I

78
00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,040
Speaker 1: have ever or will everwhere. Well you, I mean, obviously

79
00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,919
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about your career and your variety

80
00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,039
Speaker 1: of elaborate costumes. You've had lots of lots of dressing.

81
00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,320
Speaker 1: See that's my thing. I don't dress up. I feel

82
00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,640
Speaker 1: like I dress up. I fulfill that itch. At other times,

83
00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,920
Speaker 1: and when it comes to Halloween, No, it's just me.

84
00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,320
Speaker 1: And other times you just mean like within your career,

85
00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,320
Speaker 1: there's there's enough dress up, there's dress up. Yeah, yeah,

86
00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean I I did. I was in I did

87
00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,680
Speaker 1: put on makeup and get my hair done yesterday on Halloween,

88
00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,560
Speaker 1: and I wasn't gonna go home and do it different. Yeah.

89
00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,160
Speaker 1: Do you know what you did? Do it? You did?

90
00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,320
Speaker 1: You got Yeah, you got your voucher. Yeah. Um, all right,

91
00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,520
Speaker 1: I want to go back. You're a California boy, Yes, sir.

92
00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,960
Speaker 1: Your parents this is fascinating to me. Your parents both

93
00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,200
Speaker 1: dabbled in the entertainment industry. Your mom singer songwriter with

94
00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,920
Speaker 1: the Charlie Daniels band. Question, how many times have you

95
00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,919
Speaker 1: heard Devil went Down to Georgia? I mean even just recently,

96
00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,280
Speaker 1: many times? Because I feel like that's on a lot

97
00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,680
Speaker 1: of Halloween playlists a lot of times. A lot of

98
00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,520
Speaker 1: times she toured as a as a background singer, UM

99
00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,760
Speaker 1: for Charlie Daniels. Uh, two or three summers before I

100
00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,159
Speaker 1: was born, something like that. So I am from Georgia.

101
00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,240
Speaker 1: So I feel like that song is like, I don't know,

102
00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,120
Speaker 1: it's one of those things when you're young you're like

103
00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:04,200
Speaker 1: they said, pere job. It was Charlie Daniels and like

104
00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:10,080
Speaker 1: Ray Charles right right, that's exactly, Um, your dad part

105
00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,440
Speaker 1: of a theater group. How how much do you think

106
00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,760
Speaker 1: their influence are you know, their participation in the arts

107
00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,280
Speaker 1: and performing that influence you as a kid, massively, massively.

108
00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,240
Speaker 1: They were like we we attended Manhattan Beach Community Church,

109
00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, the first decade of my life. Um, and

110
00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,239
Speaker 1: they would do the sort of community church plays there.

111
00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I was in theaters, I was watching rehearsals.

112
00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,440
Speaker 1: I was surrounded by the idea of like putting on

113
00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,560
Speaker 1: a show before I could even kind of conceive of

114
00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,440
Speaker 1: it or or an you know self analyze what that

115
00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,440
Speaker 1: meant and what that what that required. And then my

116
00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,760
Speaker 1: mother took me and my my two younger siblings to

117
00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,840
Speaker 1: a commercial agent because she thought we were cute and

118
00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,040
Speaker 1: precocious enough that maybe that would be a thing we

119
00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,800
Speaker 1: would do well at. And of the three of us,

120
00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,880
Speaker 1: I think I was the only one that was willing

121
00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,160
Speaker 1: to go into a room full of strangers and be like, Hi,

122
00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'll talk about milkshakes. Um. So so absolutely,

123
00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, incredibly influential and encouraging, you know that that

124
00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,600
Speaker 1: was It was like unconditional support before I was really

125
00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,960
Speaker 1: even asking for it. Um. But it wasn't until like

126
00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,480
Speaker 1: middle school for me and like getting involved in theater

127
00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,360
Speaker 1: drama with my peers, with my own group, where it

128
00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,200
Speaker 1: became a sort of a self passion where I was like, oh, no,

129
00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,720
Speaker 1: I I do like this, and I I can excel

130
00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,400
Speaker 1: at this too, but I'm I also enjoy the process,

131
00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,480
Speaker 1: and to me, I'm sure you agree. Just if you

132
00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,760
Speaker 1: enjoy doing it, the end results don't become as um precious,

133
00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, right. So it started out it sounds like

134
00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,400
Speaker 1: as I don't know, hobby, maybe the wrong, but like

135
00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,800
Speaker 1: an activity, I think it's fair. Yeah. It was like

136
00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,800
Speaker 1: recreational pastime. Yeah, absolutely, and and just always around like

137
00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was in productions at the

138
00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,839
Speaker 1: church from the age of four or five, um, because

139
00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,480
Speaker 1: it was fun to go hang out with kids. And

140
00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:23,600
Speaker 1: I think my parents, having five children, needed extracurriculars to like,

141
00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, find a moment to breathe. Um. So yeah,

142
00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,959
Speaker 1: so it started that way. But in my own sort

143
00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,560
Speaker 1: of history for myself, in my heart, in my mind,

144
00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,319
Speaker 1: it was around six or seventh grade when I really

145
00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,640
Speaker 1: started going like, oh, I love this, you know, and

146
00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,800
Speaker 1: maybe maybe slightly earlier, just I remember seeing Tim Burton's Batman,

147
00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,320
Speaker 1: the First Batman in like eighty nine and going, I

148
00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,000
Speaker 1: love the way that movie makes me feel. That movie

149
00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,240
Speaker 1: makes me feel like things that I only thought were

150
00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,840
Speaker 1: pretend before could be real. And that's I want to

151
00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,520
Speaker 1: do that. That sounds awesome. Well, it sounds like right

152
00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,600
Speaker 1: about this time, you were twelve years old, you made

153
00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,240
Speaker 1: your first film appearance. Yes, Naked Gun thirty three and

154
00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,920
Speaker 1: a third, the Final Insult. What do you remember about

155
00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,680
Speaker 1: being cast on that? I was just through this commercial

156
00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,160
Speaker 1: agent this, you know, I think we'd moved on from

157
00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,920
Speaker 1: from the first one and then and then they're like, um,

158
00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,760
Speaker 1: the thing I was it was like Cunningham was the

159
00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,920
Speaker 1: first commercial agency I was with, and then moved to

160
00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,600
Speaker 1: a sort of more boutique agency off senset called the

161
00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,240
Speaker 1: Sanders Agency, and I think that that's who this was through.

162
00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was just an audition and you know,

163
00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,440
Speaker 1: you have to you have to get your vouchers, you

164
00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,760
Speaker 1: have to become taft heartly before you can become SAG eligible.

165
00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,760
Speaker 1: And Naked Gun is the thing I think is the

166
00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,880
Speaker 1: job that got me taft heartly that like made me

167
00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:58,000
Speaker 1: union eligible, and then doing a re enactor reenaction moment

168
00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:04,120
Speaker 1: in an Unsolved Mysteries episode got me my card. Yeah,

169
00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,199
Speaker 1: but the Naked Gun was so exciting and fun. The

170
00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,720
Speaker 1: director of that movie directed Tommy Boy, Like his next

171
00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,359
Speaker 1: film was Tommy Boy, which is like a cool factoid

172
00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,679
Speaker 1: for me. Had I but known, I would have been

173
00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,240
Speaker 1: much more of a kiss up one of my favorite

174
00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,120
Speaker 1: same same. We just showed it to our daughters and

175
00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,080
Speaker 1: it holds up and they were laughing throughout. You know,

176
00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,000
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's timeless, it's it's one of the

177
00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,559
Speaker 1: best comedies ever, I think. But it was fun to

178
00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,720
Speaker 1: like be on set and my role was in a

179
00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,679
Speaker 1: parody of Jurassic Park, so like they'd kind of recreated

180
00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,520
Speaker 1: a Jurassic Park set and that was cool. And I

181
00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,720
Speaker 1: had a stand in who was like twelve years older

182
00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,720
Speaker 1: than me, like a full adult man who just happened

183
00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,560
Speaker 1: to be short enough to be my stand in, and

184
00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,800
Speaker 1: that was very exciting, and I was like, are we brothers?

185
00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,360
Speaker 1: Now we best friends? We ended up not being Unfortunately

186
00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,760
Speaker 1: he's he ghosted me. I mean, it's so so interesting

187
00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,320
Speaker 1: because you started so early started performing. Did you feel

188
00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,760
Speaker 1: a specific affinity for comedy at this point or was

189
00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,800
Speaker 1: it was it just about performing or finding whatever job

190
00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,959
Speaker 1: you could get, or you know, yeah, I I loved comedy.

191
00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,120
Speaker 1: I always as a as an audience member, always skewed

192
00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,240
Speaker 1: towards comedies. You know, the works of Jim Carey were

193
00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,720
Speaker 1: incredibly influential to me and and inspiring. But in terms

194
00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,160
Speaker 1: of like what I could do, I definitely came at it,

195
00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, in the first third of my life or career,

196
00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,840
Speaker 1: just from trying to do as many different things as possible.

197
00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,319
Speaker 1: You know, I really love musical theater, I really love drama,

198
00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,360
Speaker 1: I love Shakespeare, I love I love a good mystery

199
00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,839
Speaker 1: and thriller. And so the sort of goal or or

200
00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,320
Speaker 1: career path into comedy was not decided until I was

201
00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,080
Speaker 1: I was kind of a college that's when that. Yeah,

202
00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean I saw some of your your earlier roles

203
00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:13,640
Speaker 1: not decidedly not comedic, judging Amy, Touched by an Angel, Roswell.

204
00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,920
Speaker 1: You start booking at a number of pretty big shows

205
00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,640
Speaker 1: at that time. Was this difficult for you to continue

206
00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,160
Speaker 1: to go to school where you schools where you set schooling?

207
00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,760
Speaker 1: Were you good? Question? And and and there was a

208
00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,160
Speaker 1: moment in time where like kind of coming out. I

209
00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,559
Speaker 1: went to a performing arts high school here in Los Angeles,

210
00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,080
Speaker 1: and as I was finishing school, I was auditioning a

211
00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,960
Speaker 1: lot more and I was getting these guest roles and

212
00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,920
Speaker 1: doing well. But then was accepted to u c l

213
00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,280
Speaker 1: A for Musical theater and the agency I was with

214
00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,560
Speaker 1: actually disbanded, like they close shop, they just sort of

215
00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,199
Speaker 1: shut down. And I was like, that's great. I'm just

216
00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,280
Speaker 1: gonna focus on school. I'm gonna be a college student.

217
00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here for four years. I'll train and

218
00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,880
Speaker 1: then hopefully pick things back up once once I graduate.

219
00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,760
Speaker 1: But a show I had done on Nickelodeon, The Amanda Show,

220
00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,080
Speaker 1: called back halfway through my freshman year at college and

221
00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,160
Speaker 1: they're like, we want to do more episodes with you,

222
00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,120
Speaker 1: which was very flattering, very exciting. UM, and I said, well,

223
00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't have an agent. I've sort of stopped. I'm

224
00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,640
Speaker 1: just kind of going to school. And the producers were like,

225
00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,120
Speaker 1: we'll help you get all that, and they did. They're like,

226
00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,280
Speaker 1: they got me an agent, they got me, they got

227
00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,760
Speaker 1: me a manager, and which I've never had before. UM,

228
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,360
Speaker 1: so that's sort of like relaunched it. And then by

229
00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,480
Speaker 1: the end of that freshman year sort of as a fluke,

230
00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,920
Speaker 1: I've gotten I was allowed to audition for Mad TV,

231
00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,520
Speaker 1: the sketch show that was on Fox, and got it.

232
00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,520
Speaker 1: It's still funny that that happened to me because I

233
00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,560
Speaker 1: had not taken an improv sketch stand up class, like

234
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,720
Speaker 1: no training. Um, but just was loud and obnoxious and

235
00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,560
Speaker 1: a good mimic I think you know, um and and yeah.

236
00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,080
Speaker 1: So that that is when I became like comedian Taran

237
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,880
Speaker 1: kill him. Okay, so I gotta I gotta ask you

238
00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,160
Speaker 1: about that. So for first off, isn't it crazy? My

239
00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,400
Speaker 1: manager and I we still have a joke about this,

240
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,760
Speaker 1: right that all if you're if you're having trouble getting

241
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,160
Speaker 1: a job, all you need to do is book a vacation,

242
00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:26,800
Speaker 1: right like book something that was likely nonrefundable, or you

243
00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,760
Speaker 1: have or you have dozens of people counting on you,

244
00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, plan a wedding. You're gonna get a job. Um.

245
00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,520
Speaker 1: So that that's fascinating to me. Where you consciously say

246
00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a little break, I'm gonna go to

247
00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,400
Speaker 1: U C l A, I'm gonna train, and then everything

248
00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,840
Speaker 1: starts hitting for you. And now I read here that

249
00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,680
Speaker 1: first off the Amanda Show, you almost missed your graduation. Yeah,

250
00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,960
Speaker 1: yeah I did. Technically I was. I did. I wasn't

251
00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,080
Speaker 1: allowed to walk because I had to miss the rehearsal.

252
00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,280
Speaker 1: Like I booked that job initially and it was very exciting,

253
00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,640
Speaker 1: and the shoot dates overlapped with the graduation rehearsal Loxa,

254
00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,560
Speaker 1: which is the name of my high school at that time.

255
00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,520
Speaker 1: Graduation took place at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, which is

256
00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,080
Speaker 1: where the officers used to happen before they build the

257
00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,200
Speaker 1: Dolby Place, which is really cool, really fancy, nice, nice honor.

258
00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,280
Speaker 1: But the school was saying that it was the theater's

259
00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,040
Speaker 1: policy that you had to be present for the rehearsal

260
00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,480
Speaker 1: and if you weren't there for the rehearsal, you were

261
00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,920
Speaker 1: not allowed to walk on the stage. And I was like,

262
00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,200
Speaker 1: oh shoot. So I went to I said to the Amandage.

263
00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't do this job. I'm sorry,

264
00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss out on my graduation and they were

265
00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,840
Speaker 1: so they'll they said, we'll do everything we can to

266
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,400
Speaker 1: make sure you're there for the show to do you know,

267
00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,800
Speaker 1: we can, we'll show you the dates ahead of time

268
00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,800
Speaker 1: and if they can reschedule. And they were so accommodating,

269
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,880
Speaker 1: and the high school for which I was being trained

270
00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,200
Speaker 1: to be a professional actor was not that I Eventually

271
00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,280
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what I'm gonna They're they're

272
00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,560
Speaker 1: paying me money. So what happened was true to their word.

273
00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,119
Speaker 1: The producers um shot me out early the day of

274
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,800
Speaker 1: my graduation, sent me in a limousine downtown l A

275
00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,920
Speaker 1: to the Dorothy Chandler. But then I had to sit

276
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,040
Speaker 1: in the audience for my high school graduation and all

277
00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:26,320
Speaker 1: my classmates walking stupid. It all worked out, all right.

278
00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,200
Speaker 1: You and this guy by the name of Keenan Thompson

279
00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,480
Speaker 1: I here had the same manager. Mad TV calls for Keenan.

280
00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,400
Speaker 1: You get pitched. You did twenty three impressions during your audition.

281
00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you have twenty three people at this point

282
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,639
Speaker 1: that you can do. Yeah, it's again the mimicry thing,

283
00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,399
Speaker 1: like you know, my party trick was too good in

284
00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,399
Speaker 1: whatever movie was in theaters, and then come back and

285
00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,159
Speaker 1: kind of recreate it, satirize it. So at that point,

286
00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,040
Speaker 1: like the WB network was a huge thing, so all

287
00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 1: the Dawson's Creek people, all the Buffy the Vampire Slayer people,

288
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,680
Speaker 1: cruel intentions, your varsity blues, like that was sort of

289
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,040
Speaker 1: my wheelhouse and knowing you know, if Matt TV was

290
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna hire a nineteen year old kid, they probably want

291
00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,040
Speaker 1: to capitalize on a more youth oriented point of view.

292
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 1: It was those. But then you know you're thrown in

293
00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 1: a bono from you two or um at that point,

294
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,440
Speaker 1: Jimmy fallon, Like I did a follon for them, But yeah,

295
00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:36,560
Speaker 1: for my like official audition, it's it's so kind of

296
00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 1: like juvenile but charming upon reflection. But I like made cards.

297
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 1: I made, I like did craft cards with like name

298
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 1: titles as if you know, there was a lower third

299
00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,199
Speaker 1: on the screen. But I was gonna be in an office,

300
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,280
Speaker 1: so I made twenty three different cards and I wore

301
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 1: them around my neck and I would just take one

302
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,119
Speaker 1: off and then do the impression, and take one off

303
00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 1: and do the impression, and so like it and it

304
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 1: and it helped it. It did help it, I think

305
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,679
Speaker 1: because it required me to do less work. But the

306
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,639
Speaker 1: best part always like even then I was so embarrassed

307
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 1: because the audition ends and then I got to take

308
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 1: a solid thirty seconds to collect all these paper cards

309
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,440
Speaker 1: like these. He's a file eleven pieces of paper that

310
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 1: have scattered all over the floor of this office at

311
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,159
Speaker 1: at Fox Studios. Um. But yeah, but it worked, it worked.

312
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 1: It was. It was a very very fortunate, lucky thing

313
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 1: and and an incredible learning experience for me. I talked

314
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: to Kevin Pollock, who he's actually an amazing impressionist. Yes,

315
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 1: I mean his walking his phenomenal. His walking is really good,

316
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: he said. He also says like he helped Dana come

317
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: up with his George Herbert Walker Bush. He's yeah, Kevin

318
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 1: was at one of those Halloween parties I was at. Okay.

319
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 1: He talked to me about just finding that one hook.

320
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 1: Is that how you operate as well? Are you looking

321
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,199
Speaker 1: for one characteristic or speech pattern or what do you? Sometimes? Yeah,

322
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: sometimes of physical affectation helps it, you know what I mean,

323
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: like a mouth shape or I I squinted, you know, like, um,

324
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 1: it usually starts outward in for me, for you, okay,

325
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: or if there is a melody to it, if there

326
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: is a sound or or a certain rhythm of speech,

327
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: that's that's another way in for me. Like when when

328
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: I started doing bread Pitt again. It was that thing

329
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: where I'd seen the movies and then just quoting it

330
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 1: with friends, people be bold enjoying, going like, oh my god,

331
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 1: yeah you sound like him, um with with no jokes

332
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: at that point. But um like for Brad Pitt, I

333
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: really really loved and still love seven And there's this,

334
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: there's a speech he does with Morgan Freeman at the

335
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: bar and he goes, you know what, um, I don't

336
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: think you're quitting because you believe that. I think you

337
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: want to believe that. Because you're quitting. You want me

338
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: to agree with you and say, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

339
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 1: it's funked it's all funked up. We should all live

340
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 1: in fucking lord Cabins. But I don't agree with you.

341
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: I do not. Thanks for the drink, and just like

342
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: the rhythm of the Buddhaud but like and then twelve Monkeys,

343
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 1: he's much more frenetic, and that he's much more physical

344
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: and he does always touch his face. He's always kind

345
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 1: of licking his lips and his lips moist and there's

346
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: a little like bounce, you know, a little shake to

347
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: the head, a little like I can't even I don't

348
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 1: even have the energy to be this cool. And then

349
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: in Twelve Monkeys he does a lot of that. You know,

350
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, cham yeah, there's like a lot of these

351
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 1: like on them on a pia sounds. So I started

352
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: just button ing like Lou, great to meet you, very

353
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: happy to meet you. And that's that's just sort of

354
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 1: how that how that one in particular developed and and

355
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: it just always brought me great joy because he's just

356
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: undeniably the most handsome, cool, most unique performers in terms

357
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: of the types of roles he chooses. But at the

358
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: same time, he has a very um limited vocal range.

359
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: He always sounds like himself, you know what I mean.

360
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: He's not like Tom Hardy, who's always gonna make some

361
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: big vocal swing, always bred right right. I see, that's jenious.

362
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: I love that. I also love that for you. Physicality

363
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: is so important for you. For me in terms of

364
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: creating a character, I always said that is equally as

365
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: as important how the character moves, how how they hold

366
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: their body, where their holds are lets you know so much. Yeah,

367
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: like I find it. I don't get as self critical

368
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: when I start with the physical, right, like a bad example,

369
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: someone who walks with a limb. You know what I mean.

370
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: You can feel you're feeling, and it's very real, it's

371
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: very tangible, as opposed to journaling from the point of

372
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: view of somebody or you know, all these internal exercises

373
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: people do. If I start there, it feels false to me,

374
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: like it like I I can get in my head,

375
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I? Why am I writing that? What?

376
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: You know, these things didn't happen, This wasn't really I'm

377
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: making this up. But if you go in physical and

378
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: you start to feel that, then the thoughts behind it

379
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: become a little bit more, become validated in a way

380
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: to me, I just as I've always found that to

381
00:23:54,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: be more helpful. You know. Yeah, and and shoes are

382
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: really important to me, just because different shoes, different types

383
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: of shoes ground you to the ground in a different

384
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: way and literally creates different body postures, right like, And

385
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: this isn't a job. I'm not even making a joke

386
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: right now, I'm wearing I'm wearing cowboy boots. I appear

387
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: to be a different person when I'm walking down the

388
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: street in these shoes. As my second favorite type of

389
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: shoes a flip flop. You know, it's the dude in

390
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: the Big Lebowski versus put Jeff Bridges in boots and

391
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: he immediately becomes somebody else, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

392
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: So even if you know, I try, it doesn't always happen.

393
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be totally high maintenance about it. But

394
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: even like if I'm off camera or something and I'm

395
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: trying to be there for somebody else, having the shoes

396
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: is always important for me. Absolutely puts my body in

397
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: a specific position and the way that it affects others too.

398
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: That so, I mean, I've never thought of that, but

399
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: it immediately makes sense to me. Because if you enter

400
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: a room in cowboy boots, people here, you coming in

401
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: a different way than coming in and flip flop. Like

402
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: there's just the sound that those two different kinds of

403
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: shoes make effect. Like flip flops is like, who's this dude,

404
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: you know? And cowboy boots is like, oh do I

405
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: need to be on my guard? You know? Here comes something,

406
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: here comes Here's comes the possibility of authority, right, And

407
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: that's that's the great dichotomy of me. I wear both

408
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: there you go sometimes the same day. It's great love

409
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: that I don't mind that one bit, not to like

410
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: dig in on feet stuff. But I now have inflamed

411
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: plantar fasciitis. You know. Oh boy, I shot I shot

412
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: a film in Europe this summer. Came home with like

413
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: a chronically sore foot. I was like, I tore something,

414
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: I ripped something. I need surgery. I need to do it.

415
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: And I go into the pedietry and he's like, well,

416
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: now as you get older, and I didn't hear anything

417
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: he said after that, are you over it? Now? It

418
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: went away? But it it. I've now had like two

419
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: bouts of it. Like I was able to kind of

420
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: curb it and it's excided and then I reaggravated it.

421
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: And apparently it has everything to do with being an

422
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: old dummy. Yeah kind of. But I will tell you this.

423
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: I was shooting something for NFL Network and this has

424
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: been I don't know, six seven, eight years and was

425
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: there with two young NFL players at the time, and

426
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: I was talking about flip things. I don't know why

427
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: we weren't. It wasn't sexual, I promised, and they said, well,

428
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: you get pedicures, right. I was like, oh, I don't

429
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: get pedicures. They're like, why not? Literally, you're walking around

430
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: on those things every single day of your life. You

431
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: gotta take care of them. Wow. And I was like,

432
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys get pedicures, and they're like absolutely,

433
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, It's totally changed my life. Interesting enquire

434
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: about frequency. I mean, ideally we're talking every month to

435
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: six weeks. Okay, that's very reasonable. And I you know,

436
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: I play. Everybody's tuning out now. I talk about this

437
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: too much, but I play a lot of golf, and

438
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: I like to walk, and I play golf tournaments and

439
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes golf shoes are a little pointed at

440
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: the end. It can cause can cause issues. Since I

441
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: started this, it is it is night and day for me.

442
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about playing three, four, five times walking.

443
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you feet are gonna get so,

444
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, tired or whatever. But the pain that I

445
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: had before it doesn't exist anymore. Phenomenal. All right, you're

446
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: giving me. That is the gift I am giving you today. Um.

447
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: Now back to Mad TV in the Groundlings. You start

448
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: studying at the Groundlings. Yeah, So many of the people

449
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: that I really loved working with it Mad had come

450
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: from there, had trained there. Michael Hitchcock in particular, Jennifer Joyce,

451
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald and I had obviously heard of the Groundlings

452
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: and knew of it, and actually even had a buddy

453
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: from college going through it, mikey Day who's now on

454
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. But because I did come in so

455
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: inexperienced but fell in love so deeply with the format

456
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: of sketch and the people who I looked up to

457
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: almost consistently across the board happened to be Groundling, you know,

458
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: so kind of just for fun more than anything. I

459
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: signed up for a class with my buddy Kyle and

460
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: the Seam who was also on SNL and me, and

461
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: it was not, uh, result oriented. It was more like,

462
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: let's just experience what this is like and what we

463
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: can learn from it. And thank goodness because everything that

464
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: has happened since I joined up with the Groundlings Theater

465
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: is because of that that establishment. Wow, um, you're doing

466
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: a show at the Groundlings and you get an opportunity

467
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: to perform for Lauren Michaels, Now did you know he

468
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: was there? Know? What happened was I was in the

469
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: Sunday Company, which is sort of like the Junior Come.

470
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: This is prestigious people, the Sunday Company at the ground. Yes,

471
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: for my money. If if you happen to be in

472
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and want to see good sketch comedy, for

473
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: my money, the Sunday Company shows the one most worth

474
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: seeing because what you're doing is writing a brand new

475
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: show every week. Um, so we were, so we were

476
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: doing the show comeback at intermission, and they've written on

477
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: the dry race board. By the way, Lauren Michaels was

478
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: an audience tonight, and the dry race board in a

479
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: sketch comedy theater very frequently is used for stupid bits

480
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: and not for any since your messaging, so I kind

481
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: of laughed it off. It wasn't like toward like later

482
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 1: in the second half where people like, no, he was

483
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: he left, He he was here, but he left. And

484
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I believe he had come to see the seam in

485
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: particular because she had put it. She had done a

486
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: one woman show, she put together a tape. So he

487
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: came and and that was Yeah, that was the first

488
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: chance that I had to be seen by s n L.

489
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: And then they flew four of us and seeing myself,

490
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: Gillian Bell and Greg Roman out to audition, like less

491
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: than a month later, was this another opportunity, another job

492
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: for you or did this hold a special significance for

493
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: you at that time? I mean, I my my process

494
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: with SNL was I had auditioned twice that year, didn't

495
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: get it, audition a third time a year later, and

496
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: that's when I got the job. By the time I

497
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: was working my way up in the groundlings, in the

498
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: writing lab and advanced class s, n L had become

499
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: like the dream goal, right like that, And and I

500
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: had confidence that if I have had the opportunity to

501
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: be seen, because there's a little bit of circumstance, right

502
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: It's like some some of the most talented, funniest sketch

503
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: performers in the world just didn't fall in a window

504
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: where SNL needed people or needed that type, or happened

505
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: to be looking whatever. There's so much luck and circumstance

506
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: in this industry. But I did know if I got

507
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: seen and if I was able to audition, I would

508
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: have a good shot. I just felt confident about that.

509
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: And so the first audition was like validation of that.

510
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Like it was kind of a party. It was like

511
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: me and three of my favorite people to perform with

512
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: flying to New York, which was so exciting, Like I

513
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: even paid for a limousine to like pick us up

514
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: from the airport and drive us into Manhattan. And I

515
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: made a mix c D of all New York theme songs,

516
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: um and it was just it was a party. It

517
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: was just like I've been invited there to perform, you know,

518
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: in this inside, this hallowed ground to me, this like

519
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: this institution, this temple of comedy, if you will. So

520
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: the first time was just fun and just about soak

521
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: it all in and no matter what, they saw you

522
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: and they said that, yes, you're good enough to be considered,

523
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, and that was enough. And truly I was

524
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: had already made peace with that before I even auditioned,

525
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's just like great, great,

526
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: that that's that's a thumbs up from a show that

527
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: truly has shaped my sensibilities. They're going like, yeah, we

528
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: like what you do good enough. Then I find out

529
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks after my audition they like you

530
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: and they want to bring you back. And for whatever reason,

531
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: that like just changed the molecular structure of it for me,

532
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: because then it became like, oh, now it's mine to lose.

533
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: Now they they said yes, but now they're they're like

534
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: on on a razor's edge of whether or not to

535
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: do it. So if I give everything I can, then

536
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: then it's it's within my grasp um. But also I've

537
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: got to give them five new minutes of material, and

538
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: so it's all gonna be the stuff I cut out

539
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: of the first audition, right, And the second one went

540
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: fine ish, and they even said after it like, it's

541
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: not now, but it's not never, and he's on our radar.

542
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: And I took that with a grain of salt, and

543
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: then true to their word, a year later they called

544
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: out of the blue. Really, they hadn't even seen me

545
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: perform again. They just kind of called me up and uh.

546
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: And the third time was a charm. What was your

547
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: favorite character you created on this? And now? I mean

548
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: I really loved the French dance sketches we would do,

549
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: which was like a really weird warped like what is

550
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: the CW for France based off if you had to

551
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: design what a teen show is in France based off

552
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: of American stereotypes? Those are like putting on a show.

553
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: They were like a little different because they weren't like

554
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: written joke sketches. They were performative, physical pieces. So they're

555
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: always so joyful to perform. Um. A character that I

556
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: had done at Groundlings, like was this character Eddie who

557
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: we did it with Justin Bieber, and like, he's this

558
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: insecure older brother who's trying to intimidate his younger sister's

559
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: boyfriend who's nothing but impressive, and the only thing he

560
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: can hold onto is that the guy says, it's glass

561
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: to meet you. Sorry, glad to meet you, Nice to

562
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: meet you, and he won't let up about that. Just

563
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: the pettiness of that. Um and then and then I

564
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: loved the Meryville Brothers that we did, which was kind

565
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: of like based off of a physical thing I've done

566
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: a Groundlings, but we kind of created its own structure.

567
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: Rob Klein and Ken Sublett and I did like these

568
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: possessed animatronic creatures that like if you go to like,

569
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, a state fair carnival, the poor manufacturing is

570
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: horrifying in itself. It's like even if it's the sweetest

571
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: little like you know, like hey, come to Lollipop Land,

572
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: it's somehow more terrifying than if it was like a

573
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: killer clown, your favorite impression or person you impersonated. Coming

574
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: onto the show, I was I was always proud out

575
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: of my Brad Pitt, but like, you put something on

576
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: a national stage and it's a very good indicator of

577
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: how subjective something like I love it, and there are

578
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: groups of people who love it, but it was not

579
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: like widely received. Um. But one that I kind of

580
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: like developed on the show was Christoph Waltz. Was always

581
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: really really fun to do and just such a great

582
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: character in him in and of himself, and he hosted

583
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: while I was there, and then I got to do

584
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: him for Celebrity Jeopardy at the fortieth anniversary, and that

585
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: was that was really cool. That was genius. You got

586
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: to meet so many incredible people who hosted who surprised

587
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: you the most with how funny they were. It was

588
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: always the like former kid performers, like anybody who came

589
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: from like multi Cam Disney Show or Nickelodeon show who

590
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: then most likely transitioned into music. So I'm thinking like

591
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Timberlake or Miley Cyrus or Dre even Drake had done

592
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: Degrassi Junior High before becoming Drake as we know him now.

593
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: But they just have it built into their d NA,

594
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: like how to perform for a crowd, how to cheat

595
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: out how to play to the fourth wall, how did

596
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: it you know, the timing of a joke. So they

597
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: were always the most fun, just because you could tell

598
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: that they got it, you know, right away, and they

599
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: made things better. You didn't have to write around them.

600
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: You could write something for you to do together and

601
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: know that they would pull it off or make it

602
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: even better. I also hear Drake hosted a big after party, yeah,

603
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: because he hosted a few times. I think he even

604
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: hosted once after I was on the show maybe. But

605
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: the one I think you're talking about is he rented

606
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: out the David Busters and Times Square and free drinks

607
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: and everybody got like a cup full of tokens to

608
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: play games. But he also flew in I guess, a

609
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: bunch of dancers from a strip club that he's like

610
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: a co owner of in Toronto. So there's a very

611
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: wrong divide of attendees at that after after. This isn't

612
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: the after party, this is the after after. So this

613
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: is getting going at like three am, and it's like

614
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: half of the David Busters is filled with like comedy

615
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: performer writers who are actually playing the games, and half

616
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: are just like very attractive stripper girls who are just

617
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: doing everything they can to position themselves close to Drake,

618
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: who's standing with his buddy at the DJ booth. So

619
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just a really great kind of

620
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: like dichotomy of of people with different goals. Yeah, the

621
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: after after parties at SNL, well, I've been lucky enough

622
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: to go to a few. Yeah. I think it was

623
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: probably good that I never never was a cast member

624
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: on that show. I don't know that I could have

625
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: done twenty of them, just the stamina wise. I mean definitely,

626
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: like when you start out, you want to go to

627
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: as many as you can possibly can, and then you

628
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: kind of grow out of them quickly. By the time

629
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: I got there, I don't think Bill Hater even went

630
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: to like the first after party and it's like, what,

631
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: you're crazy, man, this is the best job ever. We're

632
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: never gonna die. Uh. And then like halfway through season two,

633
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: Bill was right, it was right. So did you do

634
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: you've done like after afters? Like, oh, no, I've done it.

635
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: Do you remember what locations they were? Because it changes

636
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: the after after especially well the after after. Yeah, I

637
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: will never be able and probably shouldn't pull the name

638
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: of that. But very dark bar, Very Dark and I'm

639
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: sure that's all intentional. One of them was it was

640
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: a season finale, so I think it was like there

641
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: in Rockefeller Center was the after and then there was

642
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: somewhere else. And here's the thing. You have to understand.

643
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: You don't leave the show until after midnight, and so

644
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: you're like, have dinner at one thirty in the morning,

645
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: and suddenly things get later. But it doesn't. It weirdly

646
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: doesn't feel that way because it's the whole energy of it.

647
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: And they it's always it's like this dark, dark bar

648
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: and suddenly you're like, okay, it's time to go, and

649
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: you open that door and it is bright. It is bright,

650
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: bright on the streets of New York and everyone is

651
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: moving fast. It's uh, it's a it's a thing like

652
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: what what other job ever? Is it like that? And

653
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: that's that's a weekly occurrence too. I know, yeah, I know,

654
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I know. It's it's insane. Around the time you were

655
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: leaving us an l you took on another just such

656
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: an exciting project, writer director star killing Gunther with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

657
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: How did Arnold get become part of this project? Again?

658
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: Just just sort of random circumstance, um like we just

659
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: overshot the mark, like that film was conceived and and

660
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: always intended to be like scrappy production, let's put on

661
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: a show. We'll put on a show. And the benefit

662
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: of snl IS is that it's such a respected place

663
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: people will listen to you and and I was not

664
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: used to that in any of my previous job. So

665
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: I in the script in its original form, there was

666
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: always going to be this cameo at the end of

667
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: the movie, and I was like, Oh, it would be

668
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: fun to like casually get a name, Like could you

669
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: imagine if we got Jeff Goldbloom, Like how cool would

670
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: that be? And I we sort of went down the list,

671
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: and Bruce Willis had hosted and I'd had a really

672
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: good week, good experience with him, so we reached out.

673
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: He took a while to consider it and then ultimately passed.

674
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: But his reps were also Arnold's reps, and they're like,

675
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, Arnold hasn't been doing a ton of acting,

676
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: and he says he's ready to kind of get back

677
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: into it, and he loves doing comedy and he thinks

678
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: that this place do his strang like they're selling me

679
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: on Arnold Schwartzeneger like, let me think about it. Um,

680
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: so yeah, so he read it and said yes, and

681
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: him coming on board was like the biggest, most exciting

682
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: thing ever. But I also, I know, in hindsight now

683
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: like was not prepared enough to pivot the project when

684
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: you have the world's biggest action star agreeing to do

685
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: your silly, little scrappy hitman comedy. If I knew then

686
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: what I know now, I definitely would have like used

687
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: as him as in a much larger capacity, you know,

688
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: not necessarily with more shooting days or whatever, but you

689
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: want to build it around him because I think what

690
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: I what I hear from the biggest criticism of it

691
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: is like, we love Arnold, but we do have to

692
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: wait an hour and fifteen minutes before we see him.

693
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yep, that's fair, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um.

694
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: But he was the best. He was a pro man.

695
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: He was like the pro of all pros. And I

696
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: don't just mean prepared, which he was such a pleasure

697
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: to work with, the graciousness with every person he crossed

698
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: paths with on the street and from our crew, from

699
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: our cast. He's he is a movie star, capital M

700
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: capital s and it was so so fun to work

701
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: with him. How great is that to hear? I love

702
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: to hear that. Yeah, you see it, you see the

703
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: extra gear. Like that's what it was for me, is

704
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: that it was It was a master class. And like

705
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: complete authenticity, that was the other thing. Like it never

706
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: felt contrived, never felt forced, And he was very good

707
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: at also setting boundaries and limits and like good to

708
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: see good, Like he just clearly had been in a

709
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: thousand bajillion interactions and had really honed how to be

710
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: a man of the people. You know, obviously also through

711
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: his political career. But yeah, but just a just loving

712
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: the process. Again, Like if you just love the process

713
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: of hanging out with a group and collaborating and being artistic,

714
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: all the all the money for status, fame stuff ultimately

715
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: becomes less important because you're already so fulfilled in in

716
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: just the craft of creating. And and he had that.

717
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: He was awesome. You have this experience you direct killing

718
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: guntherer you then now I'm I'm really gonna fanboy here

719
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: for a second. And also I think that one of

720
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: the greatest comedic, powerful characters on the stage over the

721
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: last twenty five years is King George the third in Hamilt,

722
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: in which you have the opportunity to go and play

723
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: on Broadway. I cannot tell you how much I love

724
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: that role. I love it so much. Talk to me

725
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: about that, Like, what was it like for you after

726
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: all of this time on SNL to kind of go

727
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: back to those theater roots and play a part that

728
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: quite frankly has a really low lift job night tonight,

729
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: yet consistently steals the show. Yeah, I mean, there's certainly

730
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: was symmetry to it of like I achieved this dream goal,

731
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, I can't believe how fortunate I am and

732
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: then found my way back to musical theater. Did not

733
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: just any musical theater, but the most popular, beloved musical

734
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: theater production certainly of the last twenty years, but but

735
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: arguably in history like that shows is just a masterpiece.

736
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: In my humble opinion, it was certainly surreal. I suddenly, um,

737
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: I hadn't felt that level of nervousness because it was

738
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: such a beloved piece, because the reputation of this show

739
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: was bigger than any part in it any person. Like

740
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, my daughters at school and there's six and

741
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: seven year old kids with like a dot Ham hats

742
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: and a dot burr. Um. It just it just penetrated

743
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: culture in a way that few things have on that level,

744
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: and you were constantly surrounded by reminders of that. So

745
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: jumping into this well, well oiled machine, I put a

746
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on myself to to kind of, you know,

747
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: step up and match the caliber of quality that Hamilton's deserves,

748
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: and and worked really hard at that and eventually was

749
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: able to settle into the joy of doing eight shows

750
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: a week, and and that you go okay, and you

751
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: get more confident, and you can try new things, and

752
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: you discover new moments that, oh, that's good and that

753
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: always gets a laugh, and you discover a thing where

754
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: you go like, no, that's off game. We tried that

755
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: once and we'll never go back to it. Um. I

756
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it. And you know, I did

757
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: the show for three months, which was like a really healthy,

758
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: very short period of time comparatively because sort of like

759
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: the minimum run anyone doesn't in Broadway shows about six months.

760
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: So but it was just it was just rewarding on

761
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: a daily basis to work with such a talented group

762
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: of people in such new ways, you know what I mean.

763
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: These incredible dancers, these incredible musicians, the designers, the directors,

764
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: that everybody, and then to create an experience eight times

765
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: a week for people. Each show never lost its um.

766
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: It was always emotional, quite honest, like you'd finished the

767
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: show and you'd feel emotional. It never felt like a

768
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: grind or it never felt not special. Each performance there

769
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: was always something happening either in the audience or on

770
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: stage with with with the cast that just made made

771
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: it so special and that will forever be like what's

772
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: your favorite job you've ever had? It's hard not to

773
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: think of that one first. You know, I don't know

774
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: Lenn Manuel Miranda, and I certainly don't mean any disrespect

775
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: about this. This may this may be the craziest theory

776
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: in the history of of anything. Here's my theory. Okay.

777
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz,

778
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: the Scarecrow, the ten Man, these were all I had

779
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: zero interest in. These characters. I had zero in And

780
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: by the way, there they maintain most of the screen

781
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: time of The Wizard of Oz spoiler alert for those

782
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: of you who haven't seen The Wizard of Bryan. No,

783
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: the Wicked Witch, to me is the greatest role. But

784
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: more than that, I want to talk dis these early

785
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Disney movies, The Little Mermaid, Ursula, the Sea Witch, to

786
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: me is hilarious, and these were the always the parts

787
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: that we're fascinating to me, like the evil villain roles,

788
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: because you know, to me, comedy always brings a complexity.

789
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: That's my problem with so much like straight drama, if

790
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: you will, is just like wait a second, like people

791
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: do make jokes occasionally or like use sarcasm or whatever.

792
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: I love that and I see that role in that history.

793
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: There's no question here. By the way, I'm just telling

794
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: you this is the theory that I have. I think

795
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: you're right on the money. It's there's a there's an

796
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: archetype there, and you know, Ponscious Pilot from Jesus Christ.

797
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: Superstar was always something that I referenced. But Little Mermaid

798
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: and Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin. This is Howard

799
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: Ashman and Alan Mankin seemed to really um understand the

800
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: necessity of exactly what you're saying, of of of brevity

801
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: within darkness, right of humor, within the shadow that exists

802
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: in all of us. And Little Shop of Horrors has

803
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: that in in the dentist, the dentist, Yes, totally yeah,

804
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: so yeah, No, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, yeah,

805
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: that Ursula's song is so phenomenal because it's really your

806
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: first intro to her, to that character. This is not

807
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: a character as you you know, you pointed out with

808
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: the Wicked Witch of the West. You don't spend as

809
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: much time with that character. But by the end of

810
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: Poor Unfortunate Souls, you know everything and want more from

811
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: this character from her, you know. Yeah, Well, anyway, and

812
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: I love that you said that will always be the

813
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: favorite role you ever played. Um. But out of that,

814
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: your first time headlining a sitcom, Single Parents, Latent Meester

815
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Brad Garrett, what was it like for you after spend

816
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: so much time creating new shows and new characters week

817
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: after week Mad TV S and L specifically, was there

818
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: a difference for you in terms of exploring that singular

819
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: character week after week. Absolutely, yeah, the consistency of it,

820
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: and as opposed to starting from scratch every week, you

821
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: kind of got to create a collage, you know, and

822
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: you kept adding PC, kept discovering new things about this character.

823
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: From the performance standpoint, I mean, I got I love

824
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: that job so much because we all just really liked

825
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: each other off camera too, which is I'm important hopefully

826
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: you've been. Yeah, it's a shame that it needs to

827
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: be said that that special, but it is, you know, um,

828
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: we really it was really a great group. And I

829
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: just love the premise when when Liz Meryweather pitched me

830
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: the idea originally she's like a group of single parents. Figure,

831
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't believe that hasn't been a world

832
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: explored in a show yet, because I think that there's

833
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: no or admirable plight than a than a single parent,

834
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, trying to work and trying to raise and

835
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: the balance of that is it's hard enough with two parents,

836
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, and just really really enjoyed it

837
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: and and you're I mean, your question kind of hit

838
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: the nail on the head. It was definitely a different

839
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: sensation to like, oh, I'm playing this guy all the time.

840
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: I found it very comfortable. I found like, I really

841
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, and I found there's such an endearing nous

842
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: to a network sitcom where you know what they're trying

843
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: to appeal to sort of the broadest audience possible. But yeah,

844
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: I loved it, and it was also like moving back

845
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, new city, trying to get settled. That

846
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: job really held me. It's like the consistency of it

847
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: and the stability of it was such a beautiful gift

848
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: for me and for my family. And I would have

849
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: done it if they'd let us do it more of it,

850
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: I would have done it for forever. Yeah. Uh, youth

851
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: sports fan. I'm a very big football fan. Okay, Um,

852
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: that's my new my new job. And I know you

853
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: just you let me trans just well, yeah, I give

854
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: it up as an open ended question. This is not

855
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: Jay Leno. This is this is I grew up playing

856
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: sports Los Angeles. What's the deal with I hear you've

857
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: been in Los Angeles but primarily football. Yeah, I grew

858
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: up playing baseball and soccer mostly like for you know,

859
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: a solid decade. Um. Always really enjoyed the culture surrounding football,

860
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: the gathering on Sundays, the Super Bowl parties, the rooting

861
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: for your team. Um. I just was always drawn to

862
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: that and surrounded by that. But being from l A,

863
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: did not have a team of my own to identify

864
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: with for for most of my life. So always promised

865
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: that when we got a team back, which I was

866
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: confident we would that I was going all in from

867
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: the new ground ground floor, which one the St. Louis

868
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: Rams were, you know, obviously a huge part of the

869
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: franchise history, and then Los Angeles before that. But um,

870
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: I've been I've been all in since they returned in

871
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: two thous You can't watch football now without seeing this

872
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: guy talking about his new show, The NFL Pylon. It's

873
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: a brilliant idea. I have worked in the world of

874
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: sports as well, and here's the thing that I find

875
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: so amazing is how engaging, fun personable, funny, talented so

876
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: many of the players are. Um. Have you had any

877
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: opportunities to meet players that have surprised you thus far

878
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: or have been some of your favorites that maybe you

879
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: didn't know before from working on We've had some people.

880
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Initially we had like more casual players turned commentators, UM,

881
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: rich Orneberger, UM, UM, Jered Quick Campbell. Claius is younger

882
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: brother who did actually you know, he played on a

883
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: practice team professionally, Um. But then we got DeMarcus Ware,

884
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: which was fantastic and intimidating and what's this going to be?

885
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: And he set the precedent of as you said, in

886
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: your setup, Like there's so much charisma and there's so

887
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: there's there's so many other uh facets to the to

888
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: these professional athletes where you think they're driven, you think

889
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: they're jocks and singular focus and win win, but I

890
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: think more often than not, they need to have a

891
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: flip side to that, right, Like because they're so driven

892
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: in their athletic career, they they want to laugh and

893
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: make fun of themselves and a football more than anybody.

894
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Um and DeMarcus was phenomenal and he hated DeMarcus Is.

895
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: Remarkus Is was the segment we wrote for him, and

896
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: he was just a huge Anglio Anglo file and very

897
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: excited that that he loves he loves England first and

898
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: foremost in football second and was really funny. And then

899
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: we had Ricky Williams come on and he killed it.

900
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: He was amazing. And then people we've had Sherman, Richard

901
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: Sherman's done stuff for us, Andrew Whitworth, we had Jimmy

902
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: Johnson code you know. So we have found in our

903
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: very new eight episodes of this NFL produced comedy show

904
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: that particularly athletes and coaches are very excited to participate

905
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: in something ridiculous because everything else is so laser focused

906
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: and buttoned up. So it's, uh, it's cool to be

907
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: that outlet for them. It's it's genius too, because look,

908
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: the NFL, if they're not taking over the world, they're

909
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: taking over live television for sure. And you know, nobody

910
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: watches anything sports included, uh, like they watch the NFL.

911
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: And so you know, I've been saying forever giving alternative programming,

912
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: that's fun, that focus is still on the key storylines

913
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: and people of the NFL, that people eat it up.

914
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for your success on that. I is

915
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: really really fun, and just keep keep killing it, keep

916
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: entertaining football fans. But here's the thing, you don't even

917
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: have to be a football fan to enjoy you and that, yeah,

918
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean you know that that's the weird juxtaposition of

919
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: my interests, right, Like I am a I'm a legitimate

920
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: football fan. That's that's why Prime reached out to me,

921
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: just because I'm If you happen to follow me on

922
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: social media, it's pretty much the most dominant topic in

923
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: my Instagram feed. It's my passion for the RAMS. So

924
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: they knew that there was a legitimacy to my interests

925
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: and my love and knowledge of football. But listen spoiler

926
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: alert exclusive. We're opening up with a Sweeney Todd bit

927
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: this week, So I gat to you there's no other

928
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: football focus show on television or in the streaming universe

929
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: that is doing that is mixing so on time with

930
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yes, that is that is amazing. Tarn, thank

931
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time and coming to

932
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: talk to us. Your career is fascinating. You are hilarious.

933
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: I hate you for playing that role. I there's so

934
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: there's so much here, but I will continue to enjoy

935
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: you and watch both the NFL and you. Thank you

936
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: for the NFL pylon. Thank you so much. The enjoyment

937
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: is mutual and I so appreciate you having me and

938
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: making this time awesome. Thanks Taren, Thanks Brian, take care, Tara.

939
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for stopping by. Awesome to get

940
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: to know you just a little bit better. And I

941
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: cannot wait until December ninete when the Packers beat the

942
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: Rams again. Listeners, I hope you enjoyed today's episode. And

943
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: if you're wondering where I'll be next Tuesday, the answer

944
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: is will here of course, and who will be joining me? Well,

945
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: let's just say they're a master of all things mathematical

946
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: and savage. I'll see you then. Off the Beat is

947
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: hosted an executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our

948
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: executive producer Lang Lee. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia.

949
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: Our producers are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr.

950
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: Our talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary and are In

951
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: Hearn is Sammy Cats. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak,

952
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: performed by the one and only Creed Bratton,