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Speaker 1: Ben Higgins and Ashley.

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Speaker 2: I bring you Infamous. Sometimes roses are red flags.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Infamous. Sometimes roses

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Speaker 3: have red flags. Today our story continues with Tino Franco.

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Speaker 3: You remember him as Rachel Rekie's short time fiance after

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Speaker 3: her season of the Bachelorette. Welcome to the show to you?

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Speaker 1: Now, how's it going? Glad to be here?

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Speaker 3: We're good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Couldn't be ready?

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Speaker 3: Great? So we want to do on Infamous because you

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Speaker 3: know your story, as so many are, are unique. You

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Speaker 3: were one of the instances in which you kind of

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Speaker 3: had broken up before hitting the after the final rose

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Speaker 3: couch or you were in a very strange spot in

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Speaker 3: your relationship when you hit that couch? Was did it?

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Speaker 2: What did it?

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Speaker 3: We see is what this show wants to cover. No.

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Speaker 1: I think you guys saw everything.

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Speaker 3: Really thing you need? Yeah, what do you mean? Everything

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Speaker 3: you need?

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Speaker 1: There's there's not a whole lot like to really expand on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't like love how everything

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Speaker 1: went down. I don't like the you know, I heard

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Speaker 1: her feelings and kind of let down the group. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think we can all agree. I got

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Speaker 1: a pretty noteworthy punishment for it, and we all, I think,

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Speaker 1: are better off that that relationship ended when it did.

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Speaker 1: What was the punishment, Well, after the final rose, they

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Speaker 1: had one of the guys who got eliminated come out

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Speaker 1: and ask her out in front of me, And at

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Speaker 1: that point we had already been broken up for a

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Speaker 1: little bit, so I was kind of like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's none of really my business. I mean, we already

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Speaker 1: broke up, so I don't know why I'm here, but

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Speaker 1: I think the fans took some pretty heavy offense to it.

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Speaker 1: It certainly wasn't like a nice thing, even though it's

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Speaker 1: not like it was like, you know, actively my somebody

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Speaker 1: I was involved with it. I think at that point

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Speaker 1: we hadn't talked for a month.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the hopes of Infamous Tino is to

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Speaker 2: get on and let the contestants tell their story, knowing

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Speaker 2: now you know production, the team of producers at the

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Speaker 2: Bachelor and Bachelortt have switched over. If you went back today,

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Speaker 2: you would know very few people that are still on

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Speaker 2: the show working from behind the scenes, and so Infamous

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Speaker 2: is here to explain the situations that feel confusing to

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Speaker 2: the audience or feels like the whole story wasn't shared.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted to bring you on today

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Speaker 2: because I know that your hope coming off of your season,

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Speaker 2: even with everything going down, was to kind of have

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Speaker 2: that redemption moment, to share your side of the story,

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Speaker 2: to get people to see that there was two there's

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Speaker 2: actually three ways to it. There's the truth, there's Rachel's side,

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Speaker 2: and there's your side. But what you're saying off the

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Speaker 2: bat here is that the audience saw what they saw

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Speaker 2: and it's all true. So what Rachel was upset about,

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Speaker 2: what the audience was upset about, is the truth to

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Speaker 2: the situation for you as well, and they just are

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Speaker 2: fine being upset.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I like it's forgive me. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit like I haven't been doing podcasts lately or

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Speaker 1: like really thought about any of this. In fact, like

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Speaker 1: most of the time I say no, like the few

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Speaker 1: times people want to have me on. But as I

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Speaker 1: told Hannah, anything for Ben, Ben, you took so many

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Speaker 1: of my calls. I still have you a big time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so the situation was really tough, and looking

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Speaker 1: matter is, you know, whether or not it was crystal

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Speaker 1: I did what I did.

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Speaker 3: Which, let's just say it out loud, you kissed a

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Speaker 3: with Rachel. Okay, you were at a house party. Story

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Speaker 3: and the I think you guys had an unclear, undefined

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, please edit me as to protect

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Speaker 1: me from getting sued when I say things like this.

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Speaker 1: But what I think the audience might not understand that

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Speaker 1: what they see versus when things happen. Right, So whether

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Speaker 1: I would have done differently later, whether there was a

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Speaker 1: there were moments you know that I think somebody who's

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Speaker 1: and it was feeling like it was waiting till said

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Speaker 1: the after the final rows that I had to suffer

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Speaker 1: my gosh, that is the most humiliating thing that could

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Speaker 1: ever happen to me. No, but the the just the

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Speaker 1: and you know, whether or not, like Ben said earlier,

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Speaker 1: think there's like certainly her side, and whether it agrees

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Speaker 1: did what I did. Now, my version or my feelings

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Speaker 1: it's the worst thing ever I've I've been cheated on

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Speaker 1: And I hate that I ever made somebody feel like that.

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Speaker 1: I kind of went on some tangent then so reeled

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Speaker 1: There's other realities outside of what was going on. Real

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Speaker 1: You know, I take myself out of situations where I

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Speaker 3: So are you saying that when you were, like the

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Speaker 3: Rachel were probably broken up, but like you weren't really

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Speaker 1: That's probably the closest thing so I felt at the time,

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Speaker 3: And she was probably like, no, we're gonna be together

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And like I mean, in hindsight, shit, I

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing here, Tino, if I remember right, it's

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Speaker 2: kept quiet like you said, you don't say yes to interviews.

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Speaker 2: But I remember this season kind of during the show

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't I think you can say yes,

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Speaker 1: It was a bad decision that I didn't feel right about.

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Speaker 1: It was close enough to cheating that I wanted to

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Speaker 2: The time has now passed, and infamous is about getting

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Speaker 2: stories are still unfortunate, ugly and chaotic. But you had

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Speaker 2: time now removed. You've already mentioned the decision making that

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Speaker 2: But I'm more interested in the emotions now a few

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've actually like gotten off of social

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Speaker 1: but no Instagram, right, And that was, for better or worse,

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Speaker 1: that rarely do I ever get recognized now, Like it's

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Speaker 1: it really has gotten to allow me to walk away

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Speaker 1: really cleanly. I think the experience really made me appreciate

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember the way I felt was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my goal is to know we're spending the rest

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 1: If I still got to convince her, you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: keep working on it, but I think it's it's definitely

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Speaker 1: more than reciprocated.

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Speaker 3: And I was going to pull her up on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: but you don't have one.

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Speaker 2: Can we know who this is?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Is this a secret?

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Speaker 1: Sorry? It is? You know, maybe schol post about me

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Speaker 1: and you all see it.

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Speaker 2: But how long have you been together?

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Speaker 1: And she's like, you don't have an Instagram?

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Speaker 2: How long have you been together?

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Speaker 1: We're coming on two years pretty.

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Speaker 2: Soon here, Okay, two years together?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well not that soon, but you know about a

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Speaker 3: In Yeah, is there a right? Not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's been designed nay, let's go. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's she's so good to me. It's like, I feel

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Speaker 2: And she knows all this right, We're not going to

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Speaker 2: like release something here that she's gonna be like, wait,

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Speaker 2: what's happening?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to. I want this to be the

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Speaker 1: first time she hears it and gets all embarrassed and flusty. No,

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Speaker 1: I tell her every day, Okay, that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: You know, we love Rachel here. And you may have

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Speaker 3: made your mistakes on the show and with the whole experience,

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Speaker 3: but I just feel like, you're a very sweet, sweet guy.

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Speaker 1: She's hey, and she's she's a cool girl. She was

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Speaker 1: putting into a really shitty situation largely because of me,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I I haven't watched anything since, but

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Speaker 1: I think she's kind of shown everyone that it seems

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Speaker 1: like and yeah, you know, that's that's good. I have

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Speaker 1: no like thought of her ever, unless like somebody brings

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Speaker 1: something negative, I'm like, hey, you know, you guys didn't

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Speaker 1: see the right person because she was really rad. I

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Speaker 1: would not have gone to the lengths I did if

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Speaker 1: she was not super rad. It's just you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: gets all played out.

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Speaker 2: That's true. We love Rachel here, but Tina, were very

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Speaker 2: happy for you, were thankful that you came on here,

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Speaker 2: thank you forgiving us the time. In summary, here is

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Speaker 2: what happened. Tino's owned his decisions. He had a really

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Speaker 2: terrible finale that a lot of us felt where it

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Speaker 2: was unnecessary, the Aven situation in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: I believe dig kind of save Tino because it took

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Speaker 2: the focus off of him and made it this weird,

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Speaker 2: awkward moment. Yeah, it was very weird at every level.

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Speaker 2: But Tino, out of all of this, out of all

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Speaker 2: of this, the thing that's always been impressive that should

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Speaker 2: not go unnoticed is that your hope and your desire,

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Speaker 2: And what's happened is you did not want to throw

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Speaker 2: Rachel under the bus and blame it on her. You

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Speaker 2: also wanted to take the ownership for the decisions made.

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Speaker 2: And I think that shows a lot of character. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's done a lot on reality television. It

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Speaker 2: maybe didn't make you the most famous person of all time,

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Speaker 2: but what it did do, as you said, is it

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Speaker 2: taught you a way of life that will pay off

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Speaker 2: in so many great ways. Life comes. Yeah, Tino Franco,

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Speaker 2: thank you for coming on Infamous. Appreciate it for you.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it man. Thanks Benny, I've been Ashley and I've

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Speaker 2: been Ben. We'll talk to you soon.

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