1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory, presented by Fox One. I'm Sahade 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your Cubs 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. The Cubs are 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: on the brink of elimination. The Milwaukee Brewers have just 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: thoroughly embarrassed this team with their performance there. They did 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: everything that the Brewers do well in Game one, and 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: then they took what the Cubs do well in Game 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: two and flipped the script on them and started hitting 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: battles out of the park. Just you know, so far, 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: two games in, it's been a dismantling the Cubs have not. 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Cubs have seemingly grabbed the momentum in each game and 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: then quickly lost it. Whatever night that was, Monday night 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: it was. That was one of those where you thought 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: the Cubs offense was gonna get going, and they just 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: three run homer, an impressive three run run homer by 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Say Suzuki, and the Brewer's answer with their own three 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: run shot at another one later, and they just demoralized 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: that team and surely the fan base no doubt. 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: Walking into the visiting clubhouse at American Family Field around 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: eleven fifteen, pm ish Monday night, completely silent. I think 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: I heard a laundry cart kind of rolling through at 22 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: one point, but you could tell they were coming to 23 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: grips with the reality that they had just been absolutely 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: dismantled and that their season was teetering. 25 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: On the cliff. 26 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: And this, I think embarrassing is the right adjective. And 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: it's not just like one person. There's not just like 28 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: one sort of goat here who has to wear it. 29 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: But when you poach Craig Counsel from the Brewers, you 30 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: got to be thinking like, hey, this could be this 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: could be the blow that really uh knocks them off, 32 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: and they've gotten better uh without Counsel. 33 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: You know. 34 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: The I think the payroll stuff goes both ways, right 35 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: of like you can point out, hey, you know, the 36 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: Cubs don't really seem to maximize their advantage, like they 37 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: give the Brewers sort of chances by not going all 38 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: out and say signing in Alex Bregman or or spending 39 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: like the top teams in the National League. And then 40 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: from the business side, they look at it like our 41 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: payroll is, you know, roughly eighty to one hundred million 42 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: dollars more than the Brewers every single year. Why are 43 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: they finishing you know, five to nine games better than 44 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: us over the last few years. I just totally running 45 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: the division and just you know, in every phase of 46 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: the game here, uh, Game one, it was defense. The 47 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Cubs did not execute, and that's been their their calling 48 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: card offensively outside of uh those leadoff you know, first 49 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: inning home runs, it's been very quiet, almost no pressure 50 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: on the Brewers. And then just pitching wise, the Brewers 51 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: did it with a traditional ace and Freddie Peralta, and 52 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: then after then the Cubs led them off the hook 53 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: for using an opener. I don't know what uh, you know, 54 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: sort of collaborative decision that was. But the Brewers regrouped 55 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: and just were lining it up the miz there throwing 56 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, one hundred hundred and one, three hundred and 57 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: four over and over again. Just in every which way, 58 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: the Brewers have dominant, and I think to the disappointment 59 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: has to be for fans here. I think we and 60 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: media rightfully pump this up of like, oh, this could 61 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: be like a classic, just a great matchup between two rivals. 62 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: They had the proximity, they have the animosity, and really, 63 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: these have been two games where we have to write 64 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: these takeaways with our buddy Andy McCullough that are due, 65 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: you know, final out and everything's held up. And that's 66 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: normally almost it feels like every regular season game when 67 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: we go up there, it's back and forth. It's crazy, 68 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: you know, as Justin Steele would say, the games are 69 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: drunk up there. This has not been. This has been 70 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: just the Brewers imposing their will over and over. 71 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's you know, the power output. And Game two. 72 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: Don't know if that trend will continue. It doesn't matter 73 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: really because it showed up for a huge game for them, 74 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: a huge win for them. We'll talk more about the pitching. 75 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: I think that's obviously critical to this series. But the 76 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: Cubs offense has not showed up. You know, you know 77 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: how much I've been talking about. I believe they'll show 78 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: up this postseason. There are three games and three runs 79 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: in every game except for the one that they were 80 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: shut out in two for seventeen with runners in scoring position. 81 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: The only game that they had more than three at 82 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: bats with runners in scoring position was the Darvish game, 83 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: the Game three against the Padres. Otherwise it's two or 84 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: three at bats with runners in scoring position. Last night 85 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: it was one for two. That one obviously being says 86 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: three run homer. They're just Craig Council says it all 87 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: the time. He said it during the regular season. Put 88 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: pressure on the other team. Eventually you'll break through. It's 89 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: a good philosophy. You just keep putting men on base, 90 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: get runners in scoring position. You do that, you know 91 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: six out of nine innings, you're gonna win a lot 92 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: of games because you know that means you have a 93 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: good offense, and eventually you'll break through and have a 94 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: big inning. They had one big inning, and that's great. 95 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: They didn't They didn't do anything else after that. A 96 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 1: one batter uh, one one hit after the second inning, 97 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: no runners reaching second base after the second inning. Uh. 98 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: It just was, you know, a meager offensive performance yet again. 99 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: And it's you know, they they threw out their opener 100 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: and then they dominated with a bunch of relievers. It 101 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: comes to like you can go down the list. Ian 102 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: Happs had a really bad postseason. Jackson Curio hits this 103 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: three run homer, backbreaking the three run homer that that's 104 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: what put the game out of reach, really and and 105 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: he he was a question mark coming into the game 106 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury and he's out there doing his job, 107 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: looking great. And Kyle Tucker has a calf injury and 108 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: you know he's singling every you know, every other game. 109 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: No power to be found from you know, their superstar bat. 110 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Pete's had a rough time. He kind of bounced back 111 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: in Game three and then in Game one of this 112 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: series with a couple hits, but no, look that they 113 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: need to hit for power. They're not doing it enough. 114 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: Solo home runs aren't going to get the job done, 115 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: not not more often than not. You know, you can 116 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: score runs. Sure, hit some solo home runs, but they 117 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: needed They just need to do more, and they haven't. 118 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: It's a it's it's been I guess it hasn't been shocking. 119 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: This Brewers team is really talented. And I kind of 120 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: said that it's like maybe that's just the bottom line. 121 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: This is a better team, uh, and like nobody should 122 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: be surprised by what the Brewers do. Sure, winning with 123 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: home runs is a little bit of a surprise, but 124 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: this is not like some scrappy underdog like they like 125 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: to present themselves. They are ninety seven win team, had 126 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: the best record in baseball. They are a very good team. 127 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: And right now, like you said, they're imposing their will 128 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: on the Cubs. They're showing the Cubs that, hey, we're 129 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: we're the better team. Uh, Patrick, let's uh, let's let's 130 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll we'll hear from Fox one, 131 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: our new sponsor. All right, I will, I will read 132 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: this properly, but I'm not ready yet. Okay. All of 133 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: our playoff coverage is brought to you by Fox One. 134 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: Fox one is now live stream all your Fox favorites 135 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: together in one place, including all a AL playoff games 136 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: in the World Series. We got two AL playoff games today, 137 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Seattle versus Detroit. I mean, that's those aren't fun, you know, 138 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: the biggest cities and then most of the biggest markets. 139 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: But that's been a fun series. The Mariners are an 140 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: exciting team they have even that series is up, that's 141 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: probably the best series going right now as far as uh, 142 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, competition wise. I mean the rest of them 143 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: are two oh right, uh. And in the other game tonight, 144 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: Toronto versus the Yankees. That you want to talk about 145 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: the Cubs getting blown up in the first two games. 146 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of shocking how badly the Yankees have been beaten. Uh, 147 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: that's an offense that lives and died by the home 148 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: around the Yankees and the Toronto's just stumped them. Uh 149 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: just been really impressive. How good? Uh Toronto has looked that? 150 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Did you see Patrick, the youngster Trey is Savage dominate 151 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the other night? Multiple like what was it? Six and 152 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: a third? No hit for this kid? Uh? The Cubs 153 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: could shoot. 154 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: Sure you starting pitchers are allowed to throw more than 155 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: like two innings. Yeah, and I covered the Cubs. I 156 00:09:58,559 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: hadn't hadn't seen that. 157 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So make sure to catch the Ale playoffs 158 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: on Fox Fox one and from MLB postseason to NFL 159 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: on Fox to Big News Saturdays with Fox one. You 160 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: get it all live. Start your seven day free trial today. 161 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: Offers are subject to change. Go to foxwe dot com 162 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: for complete terms and conditions. Fox one streaming. Now, all right, Patrick, 163 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: pitching is it is not been there for the Cubs, 164 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: and look this team. I think it all starts with 165 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: Kate Horton. I think everything fell apart with Kate Horton 166 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: not not being healthy and Craig Council had to go 167 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: to his emergency plans starting Matthew Boyd on short rest 168 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: did not work. It looks like a bat decision, obviously, 169 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: with the result showed in Managa twelve home runs in 170 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: his final six starts, thirty one homers over the course 171 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: of the season. I believe I wrote that twenty five 172 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: of those were solo shots. And now you know, now 173 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: he gives up this three run homer in the first 174 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: like he started. It started at the last regular season start. 175 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: He gave up a three run homer, then a two 176 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: run homer to Manny Machado, now a three run homer 177 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Andrew vaugh of all people, the pitching's not it's not fresh, 178 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: and and they just they don't have enough right now. 179 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: And it's showing up against the Breweries. They got through 180 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: that Padres game. They you know, pretty damn well in 181 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: that Padres series. It's not it's it's it's coming back 182 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: to bite them now. And like I think it all 183 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: starts with Horton, but also you need guys like Boyd 184 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: and showed it to step up, and they just haven't 185 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: showda like I didn't. I don't know if this is 186 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: what bit him, but his splitter, he barely went to it, 187 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: and when he did, he was just leaving it up 188 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: over the plate. He must not really trust it. And 189 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: and you know they were hitting his fastball. I think 190 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: what got hit out was the fastball and a sweeper. So, 191 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, just a tough night for Showda in Monaga 192 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: and Cubs pitching plans are not working right now. 193 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there is like no path back here, 194 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: Like there's no pitching plan per se that makes you 195 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: feel good. This isn't the zero four red Sox of 196 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: like a Pedro Martinez, Kurt Chilling. This is not the 197 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen Cubs where they're down three to one. But 198 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: you know you've got some. 199 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,119 Speaker 1: You know, the. 200 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: Amazing starting pitchers like those pitchers barely exist anymore in 201 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: the game him for forget the order of what was 202 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: it Lester Arietta Hendrix, Uh. And then you know you 203 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: piece it together with just ah other worldly performance from 204 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: a role as Chapman there to get it to back 205 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: to Cleveland and eventually a game seven. And you know, 206 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: I you made a great point you pointed out last 207 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: night we're sitting next to each other, uh Monday night 208 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: in the in the press box in Milwaukee of council 209 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: just going out there without even showed as interpreter of 210 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: just like buying time to get Palencia ready. Uh showed 211 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: a through his interpreter in the clubhouse, just said, I 212 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: ruined the game. There's frustration and it's kind of it's 213 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: tough to watch, Like just after seeing showed a pitch 214 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: with so much joy and conviction, UH, to see him 215 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: go through this rough stretch at the worst possible time 216 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: after almost two full seasons of very good to greatness. 217 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: Matthew Boyd similarly, like, You're just fantastic in the first 218 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: half and you know, really well regarded by his teammates, 219 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: but like that was your plan a after Horton's injury, 220 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: and like, as great as Horton was, he was sort 221 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: of baby all season and he's a rookie like you, 222 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: you have to be able to withstand stuff like that, 223 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: and you know, we'll get into it. I'm sure this 224 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: offseason will try and dig in more on those prices 225 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: at the trade deadline. I don't know if there was 226 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: a surefire starter out there, and maybe your best pictures 227 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: would have cost you Kate Horton and or Matt Shaw 228 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: and that was obviously see a non starter. But for 229 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: a team that has pieced it together so well since 230 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: justin Steele went down in April. The Cubs have left 231 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: them open for a lot of first and second guessing here. 232 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they you know, they talk about pitching depth and 233 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: the importance. It's it's fascinating because the Dodgers were injured 234 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: for most of the year, banged up with their pitching staff, 235 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: and now all these guys are healthy at the right 236 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: time and kind of like locked in and doing it 237 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: and pitching well. The Cubs, you know, they lead on 238 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: these guys. Matthew Boyd, you know, he's great, and it 239 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: seems like he's kind of run out of gas. I 240 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: don't know, like it's it's you know, the results suggest 241 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: as much. You're right the way how good Imnaga was 242 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: and now it's just he has major home run troubles. 243 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: And we knew that that was going to be the case, 244 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: that there are going to be moments he just had 245 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: to limit them. A solo home run in the first 246 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: is so much different than that three run shots stucking 247 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: all the air out of the you know, the if 248 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: you want to if you believe in momentum, and I 249 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: believe in monum in a game, you know, it doesn't 250 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: carry over for the next game because it all depends 251 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: on you know, things can change so quickly. But it 252 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: felt like the Cubs were about to do something, and 253 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: I think I and hafn't even said as much. He thought, 254 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, he thought this that that was the beginning 255 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: of Oh, here we go. Uh the offense, Uh needs 256 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: to you know, it's going to wake up here h 257 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: and say it kind of said, you know, for him personally, 258 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: it was one and done. He didn't do anything after 259 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: that game. After that home run, he said they need 260 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: to believe through his interpreter, he said they need to 261 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: have more tenacious at bats. Ah, he's not wrong, you know. 262 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: I I thought the relievers they brought out there are 263 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: perfectly fine. The Cubs needed to put up better, better 264 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: offense against those guys. But I don't know, you know 265 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: that they're able to do send out how many do 266 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: you remember how many relievers the Brewers sent out. 267 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: Six six, six and they went. 268 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: Six relievers within so seven pitchers. They're able to do 269 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: that and really limit the Cubs offense. You know, there's 270 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: no reason the Cubs can't match them. That that group 271 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: was was, it was fresh, but the plan didn't work. 272 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: These guys are gassed and the starters are gassed clearly, 273 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: and and it just kind of like it it was 274 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: a domino effected that started in April with Justin Steel 275 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: going down and and then and continued into September. Like 276 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: just bad bad timing, bad injuries. These things did not 277 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: work out for the Cubs, and it looks like it 278 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: could be what cost them their season. 279 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: And like, I have not fully looked at all of 280 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: the Brewers coverage yet. It was a late late night 281 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: and a quick turnaround here. But the Brewers are totally 282 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: lined up for Game three too. I mean, Quinn Priester 283 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: hasn't thrown yet. He had an excellent season. He grew 284 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 2: up in a Cubs fan in the northern suburbs of Chicago. 285 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: I believe he went to some of the twenty sixteen 286 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: World Series games because his family had some connections through 287 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: work to the Cubs organization. And then yet this series 288 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: was set up for relievers too, with all these off days, 289 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: to the point where you're probably gonna use your a 290 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: relievers more than your starters anyways, And so they were 291 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: Walkee's best relievers were not pushed in Game one. They 292 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: get an off day, you have Monday, Game three off day, 293 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: Game two, Like, you gotta think Pat Murphy and his 294 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: staff will be going forward to put the Cubs away 295 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: in Game three. They're gonna have the pitching to do it, 296 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: whereas the Cubs are really kind of gasping for air. 297 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: Here and in the next segment we can get into babe, 298 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: talk yourselves into being optimistic if you're Cubs fan. But 299 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: I guess you know, warning like it's gonna kind of 300 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: strain credibility. 301 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick break talk about game October. 302 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: Baseball is here, the pressures on, the lights are brighter, 303 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: and with Drafting Sportsbook, you're right there in the middle 304 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: of every moonshot moments. 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He looked 326 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: really good for four innings, the type of outing that 327 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: you said, you know, if it wasn't that short series, 328 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: and the way they were looking at how they wanted 329 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: to use their bullpen and really lean into it that series. 330 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: He could have gone six or seven innings. He was 331 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: dominant and he looked really good to end the season. 332 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: I think he feels really good right now. He's feeling confident, 333 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: he feels like his stuff is at its peak. That's 334 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that's where your optimism has to stem from. 335 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: If you want to believe. Obviously, this team is going 336 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: to believe and say the right things. I think what 337 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: if Pete say is like, I'd be an idiot if 338 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think I'd be a fool if 339 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: I didn't think we could come back. He's right. If 340 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: any of those players or any of those coaches are 341 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: telling the media that we're done when you're not done, 342 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: when the season's not over yet, it would be embarrassing. 343 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: So that's what they have to do. That's what they 344 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: have to say. And obviously it's possible it has happened before. 345 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: It is highly unlikely. We just explained what's going on 346 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: with this team right now. I wouldn't be surprised if 347 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: the offense showed up suddenly, because that's that's how offense 348 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: works in baseball when you have some talent. But it's 349 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: just really gonna be hard to piece together into pitching. 350 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Tyon could get them to a game. Four boy will 351 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: be rested. I guess four days rest, but I just 352 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: don't know we we can like second guess all the 353 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: pitching decisions. I just you know, like they ran out 354 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: of it. And now you've got to lean on on 355 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Tyon and hope that he hope that he is at 356 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: his best and can extend this series a little further. 357 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you start with going back to Wrigley Fields, Tyon 358 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: on the mound, I don't know, a rainy day off 359 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: to clear your head. The sense of routine and trust 360 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: in the process that the Cubs have exhibited all year 361 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: when you get into our tober every day, it is 362 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 2: precious and I'm sure those players in the clubhouse will 363 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: you know, appreciate the chance just to keep running it 364 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: back out there for howevery many hours are left in 365 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: the season. But like we talked about previously, you can 366 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: sometimes just sense it when a team is just kind 367 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: of out of gas. I go back to when we 368 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: were there ten years ago. Cubs looked awesome and then 369 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: the NLCS hit they're pitching was sort of running on fumes. 370 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: They're playing a team that was just like totally locked in, 371 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: a pitching staff that just kind of knew every hole 372 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: to exploit. Just the momentum just kind of wore a 373 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: team down and that doesn't last, like the Mets didn't 374 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: win the twenty fifteen World Series. But at this particular moment, 375 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: the Brewers are just so dialed in and they are 376 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: not quite a Cinderella team at this point. I mean, 377 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: William Contreras, with the celebration you mentioned, I mean, you 378 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: just made a great comparison between Cheerio and Tucker. You'd have, 379 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: if necessary, Freddie Peralta in a Game five waiting in Milwaukee. 380 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: I just don't see it. I'm sure there'll be forty 381 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: thousand fans at Wrigleyfield hoping otherwise. But yeah, for the Cubs, 382 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: you just got to survive Game three. You know, they're 383 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: going to expend everything they have in terms of pitching 384 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: resources to try and force the game fo. 385 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: But just. 386 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: It's like the Cubs said, I Bee, it was Michael 387 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 2: Bush after they lost Game two in the Padres in 388 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 2: the Wildcard series. It's like, this is a series, and 389 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: that's always important to remember of like you kind of 390 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: have to take a little bit wider angle at times, 391 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: and the Cubs have been good at that of just 392 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: the managing a three game series and avoiding a sweep 393 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: or you know, kind of taking game one and then 394 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: setting themselves up for Game three. Like that's kind of 395 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: the rhythm of the baseball season. It's not the Bears, 396 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: where every week is like the super Bowl. But when 397 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: you apply that logic here, like, there's no no case 398 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: to be made for the Cups. 399 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I feel it. It's tough to make 400 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: a good case for them to win this series, you know, 401 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: push it to four. Sure, if you want to believe, 402 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: I am not going to tell you not to. I'm 403 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: struggling to find the optimism with this group. You need it, 404 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: Like the optimism was you needed to take one of 405 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: those first two and then then you can see a 406 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: path obviously, But with Freddy Perolta looming, I assume they 407 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: hold him off to Game five. Maybe, like I I'm 408 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: be surprised if Murphy just says, like, let's let's finish 409 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: them off, because that's a risk a like you have 410 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: a chance to like have shown they can beat them 411 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: without pretty Parolta like. But maybe maybe he just goes 412 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: with him in Game four and says, I don't want 413 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: to overthink this and let me like, I don't want 414 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: to risk uh sending this to a game five, and 415 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to rip, and I don't want to 416 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: overthink it and say like, oh, I can save him 417 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: for game one. You shouldn't. That's it's a dangerous way 418 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: of thinking, you know what I mean. But we'll see, 419 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. If he even gets to a 420 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: Game four, Wriggly will hopefully the energy will be back 421 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: to Wrigley. I don't think the fans are going to 422 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: be all solid just because they're down. Duoh, it's a 423 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: playoff game at Wrigley. They'll they'll be trying to will 424 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: their team to come back in this series. They've seen 425 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: it before with this organization. It has been a while. 426 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: It has been a long time. Twenty sixteen was actually 427 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: a long time ago. So yeah, it's tough to feel optimistic. 428 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: And that's, you know, dot. I don't blame anyone for 429 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: hanging their head and thinking that this season is over, 430 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: because that's, you know, it's very fair for fans to 431 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: feel that way. And I'm gonna let the optimists feel optimistic. 432 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: But I think we've watched these first two games and 433 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear what kind of brand of baseball the 434 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: Brewers play, and they're they're a really strong team. The 435 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: Cubs played them evenly all season long, so it is 436 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: a little disappointing to see these first two games and say, Okay, 437 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: they look overmatched, because I don't think they are purely 438 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: overmatched by the Breweries, but clearly they have work to 439 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: do and they're not at their best right now, and 440 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: when they're not at their best, they aren't able to 441 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: piece it together. Sorry, go ahead, I. 442 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: Was said, no doubt, there's nothing, nothing, nothing else left 443 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: to uh be said. It's like how some of the 444 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: players when they found it's just like thanks guys, and 445 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: then just turn around. 446 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, all right. Thanks for listening 447 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: to Northside Territory presented by Fox One. This is File 448 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: Territories Cubs podcast. Make sure to rate, review, subscribe, subscribe 449 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: to the YouTube channel, and subscribe to The Athletic where 450 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: Patrick and Arra a cup of all things Cubs. Thanks 451 00:28:31,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: so much for listening to everyone,