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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.

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Speaker 3: Name is Noah.

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Speaker 4: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 5: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 5: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.

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Speaker 4: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 5: It is time for some strange news. If you are

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Speaker 5: listening in the evening this program publishes Welcome to February seventeenth.

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Speaker 5: This is the week of our big show at National

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Speaker 5: Sawdust and Brooklyn is part of on AirFest, so get

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it's coming up so soon. Oh it's crazy,

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Speaker 3: but it's going to be a good time. Make sure

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Speaker 3: Me in to see stuff they don't want you to

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Speaker 3: know to say, you know Ben cool for you, you

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Speaker 3: You may know the show the podcast the music podcast

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Speaker 3: featuring Malcolm Gladwell and Rick Rubin on the Pushkin Network,

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Speaker 3: really great source for all things music, and we're going

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Speaker 3: It'll be a good time.

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Speaker 5: And we're also crossing the borders of fact and fiction,

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Speaker 5: conspiracy and speculation. Yes, I deft with that. If you

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Speaker 5: In the meantime, guys, I thought we could kick off

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Speaker 5: tonight's Strange News by uh. I just want to share

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Speaker 5: with you my favorite headline I read this week. Ready,

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Speaker 5: you probably already saw it, Okay, actually surprised me.

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Speaker 5: Goes Man claimed he was warming up his chicken in

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Speaker 3: Going on there, why just keep some unfolding?

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Speaker 2: And is it actually chicken that were talking about?

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Speaker 4: That is a great question, great question. It is indeed

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Speaker 5: Okay, Now, bringing a snack into an unusual place is

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Speaker 5: We've seen plenty of well, I've seen plenty of people

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Speaker 5: But it's an excellent question. It is a literal chicken.

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Speaker 4: It did take a.

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Speaker 5: The at the Tom Husband Leisure Center at Salford University,

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Speaker 5: Some fat bergs, some droning and ongoing Bitcoin saga, and

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Speaker 5: then get to a heist? Yay, and we have returned

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Speaker 5: over one million dollars worth of olive oil has been

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Speaker 5: have heard, fellow conspiracy realists some scuttle butt about a

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Speaker 4: Did you guys, hear about this.

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Speaker 3: This is a joke.

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Speaker 5: state of Georgia. The Representative Buddy Carter of Georgia introduced

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Speaker 5: Greenland to red Comma, White Comma, and Blueland, Bluelands being

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Speaker 4: I would have said this was a clear prank.

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Speaker 5: Here's what Carter said in a statement on Tuesday, said

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Speaker 5: with the addition of Red, White, and Blue Land. President

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Speaker 5: Trump has correctly identified the purchase of what is now

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Speaker 5: Greenland as a national security priority, and we will proudly

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Speaker 5: When our negotiator in chief inks this monumental deal, Here's

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Speaker 4: Is going on.

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Speaker 5: I am certain that Representative Carter, whether or not you

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Speaker 4: Do, and it was curious to It was curious.

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Speaker 3: put together some sort of proposal to buy open AI

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Speaker 2: Go fund for him. That's a that's a service or

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Speaker 2: a website, give send to Go, and there was a

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Speaker 2: goal of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars set for

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Speaker 2: Luigi Mangioni's legal fees. They smashed through that really quickly,

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Speaker 2: and now it has been capped at five hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars and today, as we record, it is sitting at

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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty nine thousand, nine hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: two dollars at least as I the last time I

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Speaker 2: checked the website.

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Speaker 3: Is this like a gofund me?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: When we say capped, does it mean it cannot exceed

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Speaker 5: five hundred k or does that just mean like that's

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Speaker 5: their stretch.

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Speaker 2: Goal, that's the goal. The goal is five hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: right now. Surely it can become much much huger if

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Speaker 2: they wanted to. But it is just nuts because the

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Speaker 2: reporting that came out recently was that donations had kind

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Speaker 2: of topped off and slowed down a lot for Luigi's funds,

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Speaker 2: and now they're going back up like gangbusters.

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Speaker 3: Ah. And it is a site that I'm not familiar with.

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Speaker 3: It's called give Send Go, which is very similar to

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Speaker 3: gofund me situation. But I don't know what differentiates them

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Speaker 3: why I would be used instead of that. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: man Wow five hundred K goal three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: four to twenty two raised.

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Speaker 4: YEP.

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Speaker 2: It is headed by the December fourth Legal committee, which

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Speaker 2: is apparently connected with Mangioni's attorney Karen Friedman and Jiffiloh.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to say that name. And this

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Speaker 2: is all this is in the actual news. This is

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Speaker 2: like a real appears to be a real thing. ABC

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Speaker 2: News is confirming that this is the actual you know,

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Speaker 2: funding site and everything.

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Speaker 5: And I could answer the question why it's not go

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Speaker 5: fund Me, which I'm sure I just.

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Speaker 4: Want to get in front of the emails folks.

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of our fellow listeners are probably

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Speaker 5: shaking their headphones right now. Go fund Me was originally

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Speaker 5: the crowdsourcing apparatus or platform for Luigi Mangioni until in

477
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Speaker 5: December twenty twenty four they canceled all pro Luigi campaigns.

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Speaker 5: So this other platform is fighting the power there. And

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Speaker 5: this was This came amid the big move by mainstream

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Speaker 5: media and a lot of platform owners to scrub discourse

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Speaker 5: about mangion or to shift the narrative, which we discussed

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Speaker 5: in previous previous episodes, as well as strange news can.

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Speaker 3: I also just say that maybe this is something that

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Speaker 3: go fund me offers. But I'm seeing there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of comments attached to folks who have donated, along with

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Speaker 3: the dollar amounts that they have contributed, and some of

487
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Speaker 3: them are very interesting. Here's one from anonymous giver. Jury

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Speaker 3: nullification refers to a jury's knowing and deliberate rejection of

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Speaker 3: the evidence or refusal to apply the law, either because

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Speaker 3: the jury wants to send a message about some social

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Speaker 3: issue that is larger than the case itself, or because

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Speaker 3: the result is dictated by law is contrary to the

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Speaker 3: jury's sense of justice, morality, or fairness. Team Luigi, nothing

494
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Speaker 3: more need to be said. Freedom for all those the

495
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: system has failed miserably. If we keep this as another one,

496
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Speaker 3: we keep this momentum, we can easily be the biggest

497
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Speaker 3: fundraising campaign on the site. Free Luigi. We need to

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Speaker 3: make a change. Good luckilyuis Luigi for president. Those are

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Speaker 3: all different ones.

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, hey, And speaking of eating the rich and

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Speaker 2: the rich in general, remember a company called Bear b A.

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Speaker 3: Y e R.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love Bear.

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Speaker 2: Right all the chemical folks. Of course, they make this

505
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Speaker 2: other thing called round Up, round Up. Ready or whatever

506
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: all that other stuff, the weed killer round up specifically, Well,

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Speaker 2: we've talked before and very recently about how their product

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Speaker 2: round up appears to be causing cancer, at least according

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Speaker 2: to scientists who are studying the stuff who are not

510
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Speaker 2: directly hired by Bear or paid by Bear. And uh, well,

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Speaker 2: Bear is fighting back, you guys.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: There are protesters all over the place in Iowa, especially

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Speaker 2: outside the Iowa Capitol Building this this Monday, specifically as

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Speaker 2: we're recording this week, because there is legislation being proposed.

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Speaker 2: They're in Iowa at the Capitol Building as well as

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Speaker 2: in seven other states that would protect pesticide companies like

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Speaker 2: Bear from claims they failed to warn their customers that

519
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Speaker 2: their product causes cancer, because this is what this legislation says,

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Speaker 2: because their labels on their products complied with the US

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Speaker 2: Environmental Protection Agencies regulations. So what they're saying is, what

522
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Speaker 2: this legislation is saying is that Bear and other companies

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Speaker 2: who make these weed killers that do cause cancer put

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Speaker 2: on their labels the stuff that the EPA required them to,

525
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Speaker 2: and one of those requirements is not this may cause cancer.

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Speaker 5: Right, So the question isn't the science that it's the

527
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Speaker 5: amount or the threshold of legal compliance, and these exactly right, okay,

528
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Speaker 5: and these grassroots activist whatever, I'll take the applause.

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Speaker 4: I'll take the check for that one. Get it? Grassroots pesticide.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, the people who are saying, hey, this is

531
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Speaker 2: the right legislation. Bear didn't do anything wrong. But you've

532
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Speaker 2: also got protesters who were saying, what the heck, guys,

533
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Speaker 2: Bear definitely did something wrong, and then you get signs

534
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Speaker 2: and they're all like, no, you're wrong.

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Speaker 4: So this reminds me of a previous episode, Matt.

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Speaker 5: Do we know if whether Bear is paying the pro

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Speaker 5: bear activist or pro bear protesters.

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Speaker 3: I do not know. I do not know.

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Speaker 2: I know they're paying the you know, the firms essentially

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Speaker 2: that are on the PR side, that are working to

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Speaker 2: fight against us.

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Speaker 5: And it is legal to do that. It's just it's

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Speaker 5: very ethically fraught. But it wouldn't be the first time

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Speaker 5: large companies or even political groups have have paid people

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Speaker 5: to be sort of astro turf protesters.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And let's jump really quickly to ap news.

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Speaker 2: This was written on April sixteenth, twenty twenty four, so

548
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Speaker 2: a while back, but specifically back then when we were

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Speaker 2: talking about Bear. It discusses how they are about one

550
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty seven thousand legal claims against Bear and

551
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Speaker 2: specifically round Up at that time last year in April.

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Speaker 2: They've settled several of those, but they've lost several others

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Speaker 2: where there are huge judgments. We talked about one I

554
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Speaker 2: think it was ten billion dollars that was awarded for

555
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Speaker 2: plaintiffs against Bear because of this whole roundup cancer thing.

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Speaker 2: And then you jump to now and there's still a

557
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Speaker 2: ton of these lawsuits. So basically Bear is attempting to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: none of these lawsuits are worth their salt anymore because

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Speaker 2: of this thing. Right, we didn't do anything wrong according

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Speaker 2: to the EPA regulations specifically for our labels.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which I've just said again, and far be it

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Speaker 5: for me to accuse anybody of conspiracy. It sounds like

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Speaker 5: a really weird and specific, hair splitting legalistic point for

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Speaker 5: people to get organically fired up about, such that they

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Speaker 5: would go protest, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like

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Speaker 5: I don't see the occupy EPA warning labels take it

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Speaker 5: a big move in this direction exactly.

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Speaker 2: A couple other stories coming out that are worth your

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Speaker 2: time to check out there is a weird one that

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Speaker 2: CNN Science reported on about the shape of Earth's core

571
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Speaker 2: and how it is changing and altering, and then it

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Speaker 2: connects back to previous reporting again, kind of like that

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Speaker 2: last story reporting for twenty twenty four that talked about

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Speaker 2: Earth's core slowing down its spin compared to the spin

575
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Speaker 2: of the exterior of the Earth that we experience, you know,

576
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Speaker 2: that's how we get our days. But the Earth's interior

577
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Speaker 2: core seems to have slowed down and is now rotating

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Speaker 2: the opposite direction that Earth is rotating. And now scientists

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Speaker 2: have discovered, just through studying earthquakes and a bunch of

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Speaker 2: other a bunch of other stuff that is a little

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Speaker 2: over my head, they are noticing that the actual shape

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Speaker 2: of that solid metal, extremely hot ball that is the

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Speaker 2: Earth's core is like altering. It's not a sphere, and

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Speaker 2: it is moving in weird ways and causing volcanic activity

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Speaker 2: in different places on the Earth's surface because of its

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Speaker 2: weird shape. Just strange stuff.

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Speaker 3: Check it out, we'll do.

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Speaker 2: And also check in on that artificial sun ben that

589
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Speaker 2: I think you brought to us, the one in China

590
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Speaker 2: that is potentially going to change the entire planet with

591
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: infinite energy. They just broke another record, they smashed it

592
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Speaker 2: and just came out today. So just keep your eyes

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Speaker 2: and ears open for stuff about the core and the

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Speaker 2: sun and the cancer and.

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Speaker 4: Oh and just by the way, by the way too.

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Speaker 5: To add on to that, also check out our previous

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Speaker 5: episodes from years ago. Yes, sometimes the magnetic bulls just switch. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so that's.

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Speaker 4: On the way too. We don't know when, but you know,

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Speaker 4: keep your wits about you.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with that pole a shift rabbit hole you're

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Speaker 2: about to go down. All right, We'll be right back

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Speaker 2: with more strange news.

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Speaker 3: And we have returned with more strange news. Got a

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Speaker 3: couple of handful of fun ones. I thought i'd start

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Speaker 3: with one relating to some kind of landmark international case

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Speaker 3: precedents involving the flying of drones. Dateline, Sweden. Man convicted

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Speaker 3: of drunk driving a drone in Sweden's first case of

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Speaker 3: its kind, Ben, have you heard about this one?

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Speaker 5: This one is new to me, Noel, and I think

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Speaker 5: the first question everybody has just to clear things up.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure I know the answer. This guy who

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Speaker 5: got convicted is not physically himself on the drone, right, because.

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Speaker 3: That's why This is important, Ben, because this is a

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Speaker 3: first of its kind case in terms of the penalty

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Speaker 3: on a fifty four year old ratvik Man just a

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Speaker 3: town in Dalarna in central Sweden. He was at a

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Speaker 3: classic car event flying a drone in a temporary no

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Speaker 3: fly zone, and police flying their own drone that was

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Speaker 3: monitoring the event happened to notice this, you know, invader,

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Speaker 3: this electronic invader. They then traced it back to the

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Speaker 3: spot where this man was piloting the drone and determined

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Speaker 3: that he had a blood alcohol content of point sixty

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Speaker 3: nine parts alcohol per one thousand parts blood. I've never

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Speaker 3: heard it quite put that way. Maybe this is a

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Speaker 3: Guardian piece, by the way, so maybe I don't know, Ben,

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Speaker 3: Is that the same way we measure blood alcohol content here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could.

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Speaker 5: It's it's not the it's the same concept, but it's

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Speaker 5: not the same threshold.

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Speaker 3: Didn't think so, So that makes sense why it's a

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Speaker 3: little unfamiliar to me. So under Swedish law anything above

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Speaker 3: point two parts alcohol and when that in Bart's blood,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. I think that's funny. It is

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Speaker 3: very specific is punishable for d w I d uy

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Speaker 3: one point oh is a mega serious crime. Drunk driving

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Speaker 3: laws in Sweden are a little bit stricter than they

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Speaker 3: are in other parts of Europe. In the UK the

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Speaker 3: limits point eight. In France and Belgium point five. In

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Speaker 3: Spain it is point five as well. In Romania and

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Speaker 3: Hungary it's zero. I don't understand. How is that less

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Speaker 3: strict than point eight? Isn't zero? Like no, no zero

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Speaker 3: alcohol content? Yeah, right, sorry, maybe it requires a little clarification.

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Speaker 3: But they do point out in this article in the

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Speaker 3: Guardian by Miranda Bryant, who is a Nordic correspondent for

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Speaker 3: The Guardian, that Swedish law is a little bit more

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Speaker 3: strict than other parts of Europe. However, the paragraph referencing

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Speaker 3: those different blood alcohol levels ends with in Romanian Hungary

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Speaker 3: it is zero. Romanian Hungary would be the strictest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that seems like it might be possibly a typo.

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Speaker 3: It does seem that way.

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Speaker 2: It's oh, actually, dope, Nope, it's in comparison.

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Speaker 5: Any blood alcohol at all, any blood alcohol at all

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Speaker 5: over like just the tiniest drop, you know, they'll take

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Speaker 5: your robtuscin or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a crime.

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Speaker 3: Romania and Hungary serious business. They did determine again that

658
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: this man had a point sixty nine part parts alcohol

659
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: per one thousand parts blood. He admitted to find the drone,

660
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: he claimed that he did not fly, later on claiming

661
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: he didn't fly the drone under the influence and he

662
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: actually blamed a friend who was at presence when the

663
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 3: police arrived. He was fined thirty two thousand Swedish kroner

664
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Speaker 3: or two three hundred and forty one pounds or euros,

665
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: to be paid across eighty days daily, with daily allotments

666
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: of four hundred Swedish croner or about twenty nine euro

667
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: The big deal about this is that they imposed the

668
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: same penalty on this dude who is flying a remote

669
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: controlled aerial device as they would if he were driving

670
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: an automobile or you know, a scooter some other kind

671
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: of road faring vehicle. Jenny Holden Nystrom, who's the prosecutor,

672
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: told SVT, which is a Swedish broadcaster, I have not

673
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: seen a case like this before. I am satisfied with

674
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: the verdict. Karen Holmant, who is the district court president,

675
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: said that they chose to apply the same punishment scale

676
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: as it would for drunk driving to the drone case

677
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: because quote. It is an aircraft. Even though it is

678
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: flown by itself, it is controlled by someone down on

679
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: the ground and can fall from a high height and

680
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: injure someone. As you said, I'm behind all of this, guys,

681
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: I think it makes a lot of sense. You can

682
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: wreak a lot of havoc even if you're sober and

683
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: flying a drone, let alone, if you are under the influence.

684
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: I think this is a precedent that maybe should be

685
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: adopted elsewhere in the world.

686
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes sense because you can even if you

687
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 5: yourself are not in the vehicle or in the device,

688
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 5: you can create a crash, you can make a collision.

689
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 5: There's a reason drones are such a huge part of warfare,

690
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 5: and with the economy of scale, they're going to continue

691
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 5: to become more sophisticated and more affordable. So regulation or

692
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 5: further regulation, I should say, is inevitable.

693
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: It has to be on the.

694
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: Way and potentially larger, wouldn't you say, I mean, like,

695
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: the type of drones that we see in warfare are

696
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: the size of like, you know, a small aircraft, a

697
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: very small aircraft, but they are much larger than the

698
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: consumer drones that we see. And as we know, technology

699
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 3: that the government and the military gets first over time

700
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 3: does seem to inch its way into consumer availability.

701
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, absolutely, we know that we'll see early adopter

702
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 5: behavior play a huge role in what kind of laws

703
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: get made for the rest of us. So, just like

704
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: just like with any other technology rolling out, it just

705
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 5: takes a few knuckleheads to ruin it for everybody else, right,

706
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: And this guy was being a little bit knuckleheaded, especially

707
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 5: with the uh the story of the invisible disappearing pilot

708
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: friend that Oh yeah, yeah, that's like, yeah, I think

709
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: you've had to You had to have a few drinks

710
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 5: to think that one was gonna work.

711
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: Isn't that also very similar to like if you're drunk

712
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: driving and you've got a passenger who's sober trying to switch,

713
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: you know, switch seats at the last minute to fool

714
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: the coppers.

715
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, but at that point you have to wonder, like,

716
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 5: why wasn't that person driving in the first place?

717
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: Right?

718
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: It is a very very good point then, But we

719
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: know humans are very interesting and complex creatures and often

720
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: quite idiotic ones as well. It's very interesting. There's another

721
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: article about this on The Independent by Jane Dalton Man

722
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: find for a drunk driving drone. I love drunk driving

723
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: drone in Sweden. It does point out that very few

724
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: countries have outlawed drunk drone driving, but Japan, in a

725
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: forward thinking move as they are wont to do, did

726
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: this way back in twenty nineteen. So that's pretty interesting,

727
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: and I feel like this case may well be noticed

728
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: by other countries and adopted, you know, as a precedent.

729
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: It It just makes sense because we know drones already

730
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: are always in the news for nuisance type behavior, and

731
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: this just kind of adds maybe another layer of protection,

732
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: you know, to regular folks who might be being menaced

733
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: by drones.

734
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 5: Right, and then we'll see early or we'll see later

735
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 5: iterations of regulatory policy come out, like the kinds of

736
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 5: licenses you may need to obtain when there are larger

737
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 5: drones that are more affordable for people. Do you have

738
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 5: something like the equivalent of a drone trucker license? When

739
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 5: drone deliveries become or if they become a normalized thing,

740
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 5: then you would have to have a license to operate

741
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 5: that commercial drone in that way, Should you have to put.

742
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: In hours like you would as you know Ben with

743
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: trying to get a pilot's license, you know, have to

744
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: kind of prove that you are qualified to make those

745
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: kinds of maneuvers, especially as we start seeing areas getting

746
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: denser with these drones, like we were seeing in New Jersey,

747
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: right with all of these crazy sightings that turned out

748
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: to largely many of them being drones. And then when

749
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: there was talk about oh maybe they're UFOs, that caused

750
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: more people to send their own drones up, adding to

751
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 3: the chaos. Yeah, well put thanks Ben AnyWho. I think

752
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: this is something to keep an eye on and hopefully,

753
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: you know, as we know, the law often most always

754
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: lags behind the exponential improvement and availability of technology. So

755
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: maybe this will be a lesson to be learned throughout

756
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: the world. I'm going to move on to another story

757
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: if you guys don't mind. This one involves a Brian

758
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: Adams concert. Remember Brian Adams Summer of sixty nine. Oh,

759
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: she also recently did an interview I think as he's

760
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: doing this tour, this kind of like legacy, you know,

761
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 3: nostalgia tour, where he said to an interviewer that the

762
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: song Summer of sixty nine is actually about doing the nasty,

763
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 3: It's about like the sex position what not. The year

764
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: it was the summer where all he did was sixty

765
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 3: nine baby uh dude, guys, Yeah, he's definitely big uping himself.

766
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 3: Maybe he was being coy, but you know, there certainly

767
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 3: are some interludes implied in that song, which I have

768
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: to say. There was a fabulous headline that summed this

769
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: whole thing up the story here, and that came from

770
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: the website rte dot Ie Plumber of sixty nine. Sewage

771
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: blockage halts Brian Adams concert in Perth, Australia. A series

772
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: of fat bergs, which we've talked about before and we'll

773
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: talk about outside the context of this story. So these

774
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: are of course fat grease, toilet tissue rags all built

775
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: up into this kind of whole other thing that can

776
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 3: cause massive chaos and sewer systems. So these massive fat

777
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: bergs created a huge blockage that caused a sewer backup,

778
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: a sewage backup in Western Australia. The Canadian singer songwriter

779
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: Brian Adams concert was set to take place at a

780
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: local arena and the organizers, the proprietors of the arena,

781
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: shut it down while people were already waiting in line

782
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: to get in due to what they referred to as

783
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: the risk of sewage backing up within the venue's toilets.

784
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 3: Actually that came from the State Water Corporation. They said

785
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: that their crews were working to clear the blockage of fat,

786
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: grease and rag, which has caused several wastewater overflows at properties.

787
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: This came from a statement according to the water authority

788
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: the blockage could not be easily dislikes and venue management

789
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: took this information very seriously and made the tough call

790
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: to cancel the Brian Adams concert. This was of course,

791
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: very disappointing to the Brian Adams fans set to attend

792
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: Brian Adams Roll with the Punches tour as it made

793
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: its way across Australia. Unfortunately, the venue was not able

794
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: to reschedule the concert. I would imagine and hope that

795
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: concert goers would get a refund wherever they made the

796
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: purchase for those tickets, and yeah, we'll call it a day.

797
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: But this caught my eye, Matt, because you've been teasing

798
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: us with a story for weeks now that you keep

799
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: holding back on and into this idea that somewhere in

800
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: the world I want to say in the UK, these

801
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: fat bergs. These absolutely disgusting, massive globs of congealed grease,

802
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: cooking products and other ways that are often kind of

803
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: ratking style, held together by wipes and rags and toilet

804
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: tissue and can cause all kinds of chaos and municipal

805
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 3: sewer system are actually being used. Like what is it

806
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: amber grease or something like that? That disgusting whale, you know,

807
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: fatty goo, that is such a sought after material to

808
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: make perfume. What is the deal with that, Matt, I've

809
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 3: got to know, dude.

810
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: It's even cooler. Yeah, I do apologize guys, this this

811
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: story has been stuck in the pipes ha ha for

812
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: a long time. Take Hey, this is it's actually really awesome.

813
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: I think we found it in January of this year

814
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: early on. It was posted in the BBC. You can

815
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: look it up right now. The title is Fatberg's Turned

816
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: into Perfume Inside Britain's Bizarre New Industrial Revolution And when

817
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: you check this out, it's crazy. There are people from

818
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: the University of Edinburgh who are they're in a specialized

819
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: program there that they're attempting to find ways to use bacteria,

820
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: and mostly bacteria, but other biological life forms like that

821
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: to break down stuff that we need as a species

822
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: to break down because it's mostly trash or waste or

823
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: something that we can't make use of right now, how

824
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: do we turn it into something else? Well, it's pretty incredible.

825
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: Professor Stephen Wallace is one person that was interviewed for

826
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: this story. He specifically and his team take these fat bergs,

827
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: apply bacteria to them, and it the bacteria breaks the

828
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: fat berg all the way down into this chemical that

829
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: smells a bit of pine, like a lovely pine smell,

830
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: and then you can sell that product to somebody who

831
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: is either making a perfume or is attempting to let's

832
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: say scent. There are other chemical products, right, so, like

833
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: think about something as simple as pine sal which is

834
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 2: a very it was for a long time a popular

835
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: cleaning product here in the United States. But anything else

836
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: that has that pine smell, there's there's a different chemical

837
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: that is a synthesized chemical that is currently made from

838
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: fossil fuels like petroleum oil. But if you could instead

839
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 2: make that from the waste, right the leftover fat burg

840
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: that would be revolutionary. And that's exactly what's happening.

841
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, And just to jump in here on the note

842
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 5: about ambergriss, the waxy substance made from those sperm whales,

843
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: civilization does need replacements because I think, obviously due to

844
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 5: some environmental regulations and due to just you know, the

845
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 5: nature of hunting sperm whales, it is exceedingly rare to

846
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 5: find natural amber grease use the way it was in

847
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 5: the past. So these kind of alternative products, even if

848
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 5: they might sound a little gross for some people, I

849
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 5: think we all find the science fascinating and these are

850
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 5: really cool innovations.

851
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, come on, if you could find the stuff

852
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: you need to smell good in a fat burg, great,

853
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 2: because ultimately it is just it's a biological process breaking

854
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: down a chemical into a different chemicals. There a little

855
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: chemical change going on there, but it's also being done

856
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: on plastics, you guys, to break them down to make

857
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: stuff that smells like vanilla. Like, think about that. Instead

858
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: of recycling the way we know recycling to be, what

859
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: if you just break down those plastic bottles into vanilla

860
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: that you could then put into again, think about how

861
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: many candles have vanilla in them somewhere?

862
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: Right? Sure?

863
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that reminds me of like kind

864
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: of repurposing graywater for example, or you know, we've talked

865
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 3: about how certain types of graywater may well be able

866
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: to be purified. I can't remember what municipality was doing this,

867
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: but there was some work being done to figure out

868
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: how to do that, and there was just what was

869
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: referred to often in the reporting as kind of the

870
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 3: ick factor of it all. This I think would carry

871
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: a very similar ick factor, like is someone really gonna

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Speaker 3: be cool with using a product doing them smell good,

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Speaker 3: putting it on their body that came from a giant,

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Speaker 3: greasy ball of fat and poop and toilet paper.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I mean I would like to think that people could

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Speaker 3: could you know, see the greater good and get their

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Speaker 3: heads wrapped around? And I think I certainly could.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if the n product is just in a little

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Speaker 2: vial or something, especially if it's used in industrial things,

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Speaker 2: the end consumer never sees that stuff, right, You just know, oh,

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Speaker 2: it smells of vanilla or it smells of pine. So

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Speaker 2: I think the K factor kind of goes away because

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Speaker 2: we don't have any K factor thinking, Oh, that pine

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Speaker 2: I currently get in the candle or in the whatever

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Speaker 2: it is I'm using at home that came from the

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Speaker 2: stuff that I put in my car pretty much.

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Speaker 5: Or food coloring or any any number of additives. One

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Speaker 5: of the big takeaways here, at least from my perspective,

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Speaker 5: is that if this gives you a nick factor, it's

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Speaker 5: time to sit down give yourself real honest inventory of

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Speaker 5: the other things that you run into that should give

893
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Speaker 5: you a nick factor much more so, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But be careful when you open that door, folks. It's

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Speaker 5: the equivalent of having a UV light with you at

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Speaker 5: your next hotel room.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: Hell, even like factory farming and stuff, and like the

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00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: way the conditions in which chickens are kept, you know,

901
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: and beef and things like that, it does seem like

902
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 3: people are able to kind of ignore that. But then

903
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: things like this that actually could help with conservation might

904
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Speaker 3: be a little tougher for them to swallow.

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Speaker 2: There's another thing, as article, guys, that I think would

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00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: be that kind of tough to swallow thing. There are

907
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Speaker 2: folks making like designer handbags out of microbes like that

908
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't require you know, high end materials or a bunch

909
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: of other stuff. You basically three D print and then

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Speaker 2: sew together a bag that looks like one of these

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00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: high end bags. You know, the people would spend hundreds,

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Speaker 2: if not thousands of dollars on, but it's it's made

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Speaker 2: by a startup like biology company. I just I wonder

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Speaker 2: if people would actually do that.

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Speaker 4: Someone would do it.

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Speaker 5: They're too many people statistically, someone would for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, guys, I'm gonna keep this one quick because speaking

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Speaker 3: of blockages, I actually have a plumber that just showed

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Speaker 3: up to help me with some leakage from my zewer

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Speaker 3: line and my garage. So yeah, I'm actually gonna bop

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Speaker 3: out a little early on this one. But I think

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Speaker 3: we mainly got to what we wanted to get to

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Speaker 3: on these stories. But I will be back shortly for

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