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Speaker 1: guess what is scheduled for SmackDown. But first from the
Speaker 1: front page Pressing Observer dot com the wrestling world this morning,
Speaker 1: the passing of Adam Bernie Arski, wrestled as the Royal
Speaker 1: stud Adam Windsor, at just forty one years old, slam
Speaker 1: rustling reporter. He died due to a heart issue, the
Speaker 1: details of which are not known. Worn in England, trainee
Speaker 1: of Neil Adams Dory Funk Jr. Top starring champion in
Speaker 1: his Florida based Bank promotion from through two thousand five.
Speaker 1: Also champion of the nw A Florida promotion run by
Speaker 1: Howard Brody. Later married Jade Adams, the daughter of Chris
Speaker 1: Adams and Jeanie Clark. Neil was Chris's brother. They had
Speaker 1: three children. Worked three w w E Florida House Show
Speaker 1: matches in two thousand one, had one match in the
Speaker 1: then n w A t n A in addition to
Speaker 1: n w A wild Side Day Meltzer Road. After his
Speaker 1: original training and Funk Junior putting him over as a
Speaker 1: local champion by two thousand two, became a coach at
Speaker 1: Funk Junior School, producer local television show, was co booker
Speaker 1: the promotion until the two split up in two thousand five.
Speaker 1: Funk Junior got him some outside dates during that period,
Speaker 1: including the match in Calgary for Stampede Wrestling Revival promotion
Speaker 1: in two thousand two, where Funk Junior, the age of
Speaker 1: sixty one, team with Windsor against Teddy and Bruce Hart.
Speaker 1: I had not heard his name in a long time.
Speaker 1: Turns out his last match was back in two thousand eleven.
Speaker 1: But certainly heard the name Adam wins Or a lot
Speaker 1: in the early part of the two thousands. No details
Speaker 1: has noted, but a hard issue forty one years old.
Speaker 1: So all the best to his friends and family. And uh,
Speaker 1: if you have anything you want to write about Adam
Speaker 1: Windsor you welcome to do so. Seven eight zero seven
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Speaker 1: Observer dot Com. Well, does anyone want to guess what
Speaker 1: they're advertising for SmackDown tonight? Anybody? Can I go out
Speaker 1: of limb go for it? Contract signing? Eight contracts signing
Speaker 1: has been added to tonight's SmackDown. Head of Wrestle Media Backlash.
Speaker 1: Tonight's SmackDown will feature Charlotte Flair and Ron Da Rousey
Speaker 1: taking part in a contract signing for their match at
Speaker 1: the pay per view. We've already had a match at
Speaker 1: the pay per view. I feel like we've already had
Speaker 1: a contract signing for this exact same match. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we got a contract sighting between Charlotte and Runda Rousing.
Speaker 1: Riddle will face j Usso this week, Drew m Guitar
Speaker 1: faces Sammy Zane in a lumberjack match, and Mad decap
Speaker 1: Moss faces Angel It does not have a last name.
Speaker 1: I think they should do, and like that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's why you know, w w E beats the NFL
Speaker 1: and social media whatever their latest gimmick was. I think
Speaker 1: the NFL needs to drop everybody's last name. They only
Speaker 1: all the players need to only have a first name.
Speaker 1: That I think is is what the NFL is is
Speaker 1: need in the NBA as well. Can you imagine? I mean,
Speaker 1: actually it's true. You know, he got over because he
Speaker 1: was Shock, not because he was Shaquille O'Neil. We all
Speaker 1: knew I was his name, but he got over because
Speaker 1: of Shock dropping that last name. Lebron you know Magic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these guys are all in a first name basis. So
Speaker 1: I think That's that's what's going on right here. But
Speaker 1: it needs to happen more in the NFL. I just
Speaker 1: need to drop everybody's first name golf. Nobody calls him
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods. He's just Tiger right for for all the
Speaker 1: people out there, just you know, it's you've got multiple
Speaker 1: you know, Mike's and Peter's and you know things like that,
Speaker 1: multiple Brian's. Are you going to insist now everybody also
Speaker 1: have a a unique way to spell their name to No. No,
Speaker 1: if there's there's multiple Brian's on a team, one of
Speaker 1: them is got just changed his name. That's all there
Speaker 1: is to it. That's true. That's how Lancecade became Garrison
Speaker 1: Cade because Lance Storm was standing in his way with
Speaker 1: his first name. See Larry Bird, for example, would have
Speaker 1: been much more famous if he was just Larry Larry Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then Saturday, let's sit down and watch Larry. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but maybe if somebody might think you want to
Speaker 1: watch like Frees Company and like Larry hanging out with
Speaker 1: Jack at the Regal Beagle, you know, won't this cause
Speaker 1: confusion in the marketplace? I don't know. Or Bird. They
Speaker 1: could just call him bird, you know, but not bird Man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some tickets to go see Bird. Are
Speaker 1: we going to the zoo? No basketball game? Bird is playing? Okay? Wow? Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's get to the actual news here. More important than
Speaker 1: ever FTR I I there's a lot going on. This
Speaker 1: is FTR thing. FDR says they pitched the idea of
Speaker 1: facing each other in an own Heart Foundation tournament qualifying match,
Speaker 1: but are not interested in ever breaking up their team.
Speaker 1: Appearing on the three episode of the Arresting Perspectives podcast,
Speaker 1: Cash and Dax spoke about having to fight for being
Speaker 1: able to face each other in the tournament. It was
Speaker 1: our idea, Hartwood said, we had a fight for it,
Speaker 1: but that was completely our idea. We've always wanted to
Speaker 1: have a match, but we didn't want to just have
Speaker 1: a match just to have a match. There to be
Speaker 1: a reason, and this is the perfect reason to do it.
Speaker 1: The Heart Family means a lot to both of us
Speaker 1: personally and professionally, and so being able to show respect
Speaker 1: tow and Heart of his whole family. What better way
Speaker 1: to do it then allowing the two biggest Heart Family
Speaker 1: fans in the world to compete like how everybody thinks
Speaker 1: they're the biggest Heart family fan. And by the way,
Speaker 1: does anyone not know the finish of that match? I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say it here, but I think it's patently
Speaker 1: obvious what's gonna happen. And then he discusses more about
Speaker 1: how they don't want to break up in etcetera, etcetera,
Speaker 1: And then of course there is this Brett Hart is
Speaker 1: believed to have signed a deal with w W E
Speaker 1: and that prevents him from appearing in a e W.
Speaker 1: Hart is advertised to be an FDRs corner for a
Speaker 1: Big Time Wrestling show on June tenth. He is not
Speaker 1: expected to play the same role in a W However,
Speaker 1: our own Dave Meltz reported in Friday as Observer newsletter,
Speaker 1: Hart is believed to assign a deal with w w
Speaker 1: E that prevents him from appearing in a W but
Speaker 1: allows him to take independent bookings. The reason this is
Speaker 1: on an indie show and not a W is that
Speaker 1: those in a W over the belief that Heart quietly
Speaker 1: signed a lucrative w W E deal that would ban
Speaker 1: him from appearing on a e W shows, but he
Speaker 1: is allowed to do indie shows, so that loophole allowed
Speaker 1: this to happen. So yes, a W announce and Owen
Speaker 1: Heart Foundation tournament. They had all of those teases on
Speaker 1: television about Brett Hart, and so w W E throw
Speaker 1: a bunch of money in him and more power to him.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the game. It's business here, I mean,
Speaker 1: and they don't need him to be there to celebrate
Speaker 1: Owen Hart. This is about Owen Heart, the Foundation, Martha,
Speaker 1: her kids, what they are doing. Everybody else. You know,
Speaker 1: it would have been nice if he was there, but
Speaker 1: that's okay. This is about Owen anyway. And I don't
Speaker 1: blame Brett. I don't blame w w E, you know,
Speaker 1: or really anybody any of these parties here. They all
Speaker 1: are individuals who do have themselves to look out for.
Speaker 1: You know. F trs with a W for quite a
Speaker 1: while now, I believe at least a year to two
Speaker 1: more years. I think I got another year than a
Speaker 1: one year option. And there was that story out a
Speaker 1: week ago about how w W was really interested in FTR.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I mean, fel so funny about
Speaker 1: this story. There's a lot of things, but so they
Speaker 1: had FTR. FTR was in n x T having incredible
Speaker 1: wrestling matches. FTR gets called up to the main roster.
Speaker 1: Their gimmick is that they are wrestlers. Deb of WU
Speaker 1: has no clue what to do with them. They had
Speaker 1: that thing on the that one show where they were
Speaker 1: humiliated by d X or whatever just taken off television.
Speaker 1: They just desperately want out w W E. Finally, you know,
Speaker 1: they end up going a W. And then you know
Speaker 1: they do in a W. They have great tag team
Speaker 1: wrestling matches. They didn't get new gimmicks, they didn't get anything.
Speaker 1: They're the exact same team doing the exact same thing
Speaker 1: that they were doing, but a W let them do it.
Speaker 1: Now they're super over with the a W audience and
Speaker 1: now w w WE wants them back for what to do,
Speaker 1: what you could have done with them before they left.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about this yesterday and it was
Speaker 1: just it's actually mind blowing to me. I mean, you
Speaker 1: add them, it's not like you know, you you let
Speaker 1: somebody go and then they get a new look, a
Speaker 1: new makeover, a new character, a new whatever. Cody, for example,
Speaker 1: you know, they they had Cody doing star Dust and
Speaker 1: all this other stuff those day. W becomes a big star.
Speaker 1: He's the American Nightmare. Cody Rhodes and they let him
Speaker 1: come back with everything he was doing in a e
Speaker 1: W which is also funny by the way that you
Speaker 1: know he got over there and you want that guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's fine and all, but like FTR are
Speaker 1: doing nothing different than what they absolutely could have done
Speaker 1: the exact same thing with you, and you wouldn't let
Speaker 1: him do it, and you froze him off television and
Speaker 1: you humiliated them, and now you want him back. I
Speaker 1: was just like, okay, whatever, I'm sure they don't want
Speaker 1: him back. But this is why it is a you know,
Speaker 1: no matter what they do with Cody, because you talked
Speaker 1: about that how important it is that they treat Cody
Speaker 1: in trying to bring over other people, and you are
Speaker 1: right about that, But there's also the underlying piece of
Speaker 1: if they want you back and they point to Cody
Speaker 1: and say, see, you know everything's gonna be fine, No,
Speaker 1: it may not be for you. And with FTR, with
Speaker 1: the type of wrestlers that they are, the fact that
Speaker 1: they are wrestlers, not sports entertainers, and that's the whole
Speaker 1: part of it. That's only going to go so far.
Speaker 1: So they are far better off where they are. And
Speaker 1: there are another group now that things are opening up worldwide.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they would like to travel.
Speaker 1: Tellan Arn didn't travel that much and go to Japan,
Speaker 1: but they did go, and I would love to see
Speaker 1: f TR take a trip over there. I love to
Speaker 1: see even go to the UK and continue to do
Speaker 1: what they do best. A moment of Deserver Live. You're
Speaker 1: listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Albarez and Mike
Speaker 1: Semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. Right in the show.
Speaker 1: Brian Elbarez here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike sembur Viv also
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer dot com. Dynamite Wednesday nine thousand of viewers,
Speaker 1: down four from last week. As far as total audience,
Speaker 1: it was the second lowest of the year eighteen forty nine. However,
Speaker 1: point three seven same as last week and uh most
Speaker 1: watch show on cable excluding the NBA, because the NBA
Speaker 1: is killing every show. Dynamites numbers were even with last
Speaker 1: week and most categories, so uh compared to the same
Speaker 1: week in viewer, but steady in the eighteen to nine demo.
Speaker 1: That's the update on the Dynamite numbers. Darius Martin out
Speaker 1: of action for qude a lengthy period due to injury.
Speaker 1: According to report from Fightful Select, two year old sustained
Speaker 1: a leg injury fairly recently. The nature of the injury
Speaker 1: not currently known, but he will be out a significant
Speaker 1: amount of time. Second time in fourteen months he will
Speaker 1: have been sidelined for an extended period of time. February
Speaker 1: he suffered a torn a c L. Just returned on
Speaker 1: March second, so it's been about six weeks. And actually
Speaker 1: his last match was on April fifteenth, so it was
Speaker 1: about five weeks before he seriously injured his leg again.
Speaker 1: So best of luck with him, and uh, that's the
Speaker 1: update there. And also the Observer this week noted that
Speaker 1: there have been talk of Daniel Garcia joining the Blackpool
Speaker 1: Combat Club. However, Chris Jericho personally picked Garcia to join
Speaker 1: the Jericho Appreciation Society, and so that's how he ended
Speaker 1: up with that group. If you recall, UH, Daniel Brin
Speaker 1: and John Moxley, Bryan Danielson had been talking about wanting
Speaker 1: to form a faction and they had thrown out various names,
Speaker 1: including Wheeler Utah, and one of those other names was
Speaker 1: Daniel Garcia. So uh, it's I mean, I I have
Speaker 1: no idea I mean, if I have no idea if
Speaker 1: it would have been better if Garcia had been with
Speaker 1: the Blackpool Combat Club and Wheeler you to have been
Speaker 1: with the Jericho Appreciation Society. But I do both of
Speaker 1: them with the Blackpool Combat Club and somebody else with
Speaker 1: Jericho that would have probably jelled better. Well, I'll say this,
Speaker 1: hold on, here's the thing. I think that Daniel Garcia's
Speaker 1: style it works better in the Blackpool Combat Club based
Speaker 1: on what he had already been doing. However, the idea
Speaker 1: that you've got a guy like Daniel Garcia who just
Speaker 1: does a total you know, shoot style pro wrestling style,
Speaker 1: plane trunks, plane boots, plane hair like plane everything, and
Speaker 1: he's the guy in the group that brags about being
Speaker 1: a sports entertainer and not a wrestler. I like it.
Speaker 1: So I think it's working out. It should yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean his his sports entertainment aptitude should go up being
Speaker 1: around uh, Chris Jericho, that is for sure. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. I guess it's six of
Speaker 1: one half dozen of the other there. As long as
Speaker 1: they're featured more, both he and Utah, you know that's
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Lee Moriarty, you know, got some shine
Speaker 1: this week before getting beaten up by the rest of
Speaker 1: the Blackpool Combat Club. But he's another one in that,
Speaker 1: you know, realm of guys to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: as they continue to move forward. Alright, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: through all of the feedback. I may even open up
Speaker 1: the phone lines, and you've been a long time since
Speaker 1: we did that. That would be fun to seven eight
Speaker 1: zero seven five six six is the text message line.
Speaker 1: Don't try calling yet. I'll open up those next. Brian
Speaker 1: at Wrestling Observer dot com at Brian Alvarez on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many of these questions will be about
Speaker 1: font Leroy and your treatment of font Leroy. None. I
Speaker 1: treat him great, Brian. Did Brett Hart sign a new contract? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just talked about that. That came in. I got
Speaker 1: a better question for you, Brett Verse, Shawn, all this
Speaker 1: stuff right now taking place, everybody loading up behind Brett Hart.
Speaker 1: You don't find many Shawn Michael's backers anymore. When people
Speaker 1: ask who the greatest of all time is? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Year? A lot of people saying that
Speaker 1: if you really yeah, I don't know. Everybody seems to
Speaker 1: be talking about Brett right now, yeah, the own Hard
Speaker 1: Cup tournament is coming up, and you've got see him
Speaker 1: Punk and FTR doing a bunch of matches. Uh. And
Speaker 1: that's that's led to a lot of people talking about
Speaker 1: Brett by Far always being better than Shawn Michael's. It's
Speaker 1: never been. Well, the problem is poor Shawn Michaels is
Speaker 1: running n x T which sucks right now. Poor Shawn Michaels, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't want this job at all. He was talked
Speaker 1: into doing this job by Triple H. Triple H begged
Speaker 1: for a favor from his friend. So Sean goes to
Speaker 1: help his buddy, and then the whole thing that he
Speaker 1: signed up for, they they they they rebrand it. They
Speaker 1: take out all of the great wrestlers, They fire a
Speaker 1: Triple H and all of his friends, and now Sean's
Speaker 1: running a thing that he never wanted. Are you say sucks?
Speaker 1: Are you saying he is as broke as Stephanie McMahon
Speaker 1: said he was And that's why he had to come back.
Speaker 1: He was just he wanted to help out his buddy.
Speaker 1: Why doesn't he just stop helping out now? Then? If
Speaker 1: you well, I mean he's being paid, he's it's his job.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he enjoys the people he's working with. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he liked it were the old way. I mean,
Speaker 1: trust me, if you think listen, I've never spoken to
Speaker 1: Shawn Michael's I don't even think in my life about anything.
Speaker 1: Maybe I did once, but anyway, I can tell you
Speaker 1: for a fact that that there are among the people
Speaker 1: that are still working there that we're there before. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're rejoicing in n x T two point Oh.
Speaker 1: They're longing for the days the back in the day.
Speaker 1: It is the past and it's gone, alrighty. I feel
Speaker 1: Bird would have been a better name than Larry Well,
Speaker 1: take your pick, dude. I mean, Riddle is probably better
Speaker 1: named than Matt, but perhaps others would have been better
Speaker 1: the other way. No shock on w W E approaching
Speaker 1: Brett trying to undercut something the fans want, plowing forward
Speaker 1: with their nonsensical box of gimmicks, b S booking, Bruce Vinska,
Speaker 1: bro Listen, guys, let's get in the real world. If
Speaker 1: a W is doing an Owen Hart tournament and they
Speaker 1: are constantly teasing at heart, and you find out that
Speaker 1: Brett Hart is not signed with a W, what do
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna do. Like obviously Bret Hart would
Speaker 1: be of great value to a w and this tournament
Speaker 1: and the promotion managing FTR. They don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1: So they threw the guy a lot of money. Of
Speaker 1: the guy, and he's signed with them, and now he's
Speaker 1: making a lot of money, so all the best of
Speaker 1: him as well. This is business. Is what happens in
Speaker 1: a company that he is always identified with, and he
Speaker 1: has always wanted to identify himself with. You know, it
Speaker 1: just I I don't know I the timing of whatever.
Speaker 1: I just people. I I guess he's just a pawn.
Speaker 1: This particular move is just a pawn in the in
Speaker 1: the game of people that we'll just continue to battle
Speaker 1: this back and forth. I just look at this as
Speaker 1: separate entities with Owen Hart and what they're doing. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at it in that direction. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to add in every other Heart member to this, even Brett.
Speaker 1: It doesn't at the end of the day, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter he's in the match with ft ARE for Big
Speaker 1: Time Wrestling or wherever it is. They will probably do
Speaker 1: the same somewhere in the South. I wouldn't be fall
Speaker 1: over shocked about that. If they do that, that's good enough.
Speaker 1: Isn't that enough? I mean, really, does Brett really have
Speaker 1: to be there on a w TV every week? Why
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter At the end of the day, none
Speaker 1: of this matters. I got a pull here who is
Speaker 1: better Brett Harder Shawn Michaels here on the twitch feed
Speaker 1: and it's currently Bret Hart and five percent Shawn Michaels,
Speaker 1: which is actually a lot farther part than I would
Speaker 1: have thought, but even better. In the chat, people are
Speaker 1: angry at the people who had the temerity to vote
Speaker 1: for Is this what this world has come to? So
Speaker 1: you've been missing all of this. I tried to tell listen, hey,
Speaker 1: if you think that Brett Hart was better than Shawn
Speaker 1: Michael's like, that's fine, But what happened in this world
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden it is an insult to
Speaker 1: believe that Shaun Michaels was a better worker than Bret Hart. Dude,
Speaker 1: back in the nine these there were a lot of
Speaker 1: people that they thought that Sean Michaels was a better
Speaker 1: worker than Bret Hart. This is not like saying who's
Speaker 1: the better worker, Brett Hart or a great Collie and
Speaker 1: then you're like, who voted for Collie? That I can
Speaker 1: understand Bret Heart and Shawn Michael's here, you'd always get
Speaker 1: egghead Japanese guy in there too, where it's like, well
Speaker 1: you're both wrong, it's Mussa or somebody like that, where
Speaker 1: it was just like, it's not muddying the whole thing. Oh,
Speaker 1: now now the Shawn Michael's votes are all coming in.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna blame me for skewing the poll? Now?
Speaker 1: That fr things It's like Michaels FTR thing is like
Speaker 1: when a child doesn't want to play with their toy
Speaker 1: until they see some other child playing with their toy. Well,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'll give you a great example a
Speaker 1: lot of Okay, I realized he didn't do a great
Speaker 1: interview the other day. But if you guys ever saw
Speaker 1: Juice Robinson when he was in an XT and he
Speaker 1: was named after Pamela Anderson's character on bay Watch. I
Speaker 1: don't even know why. And then then he went to
Speaker 1: to New Japan and it was like a total transformation.
Speaker 1: I mean, way more charismatic, way better worker, way better matches.
Speaker 1: Everything about him was multiples better when he went to
Speaker 1: New Japan. If they would have saw him and went, guy,
Speaker 1: we want this guy back. Is great, that's one thing,
Speaker 1: But there was no gimmick change. There was literally they're
Speaker 1: doing exactly what you didn't want them to do when
Speaker 1: you had them. Now you want them back. I mean, bro,
Speaker 1: if I read in the place, I'd wanted back too.
Speaker 1: But I'm just baffled, Like, what did it do when
Speaker 1: you get him? Do you remember when they wanted the
Speaker 1: Young Bucks? Remember that that's totally different. They didn't have
Speaker 1: the Young Bucks before. They said about the same teams
Speaker 1: doing the same thing, with the same look and the
Speaker 1: same gimmick. They did nothing with them nels and they
Speaker 1: want to do something with them. Well, why did you
Speaker 1: do someone in the first place, same philosophy, the same
Speaker 1: reason you would never sign those guys. You didn't want
Speaker 1: anything to do with him. You can't teach him anything. There, this, that,
Speaker 1: and the third. But oh now we want you. Look,
Speaker 1: you know what this is. It's business, it's pettiness, it's
Speaker 1: trying to get one over. It's just basically trying to
Speaker 1: hurt the other guy. And I don't think FTR is
Speaker 1: down with them back. In the moment of is ever
Speaker 1: live come game come come by name. Freaking people may
Speaker 1: range and I think it's me that can give my gosh,
Speaker 1: it's nothing that I won't track, but I'm imagine you
Speaker 1: were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and
Speaker 1: Mike Semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. M Back
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Speaker 1: Mikes and Berviv also Wrestling Observer dot com. I'd like
Speaker 1: to give us a call here today. The phone lines
Speaker 1: are open eight four four nine one three twenty seven
Speaker 1: twenty seven, eight four four nine one three twenty seven
Speaker 1: twenty seven, and in fact, the phone lines here we go.
Speaker 1: Tony are on the air. What's happening, Brian, Mike? What's
Speaker 1: going on? Guys? So Hey, So, before I get to
Speaker 1: my main point, I want to give a w some credit.
Speaker 1: With Stottenham Singh, they at least used his real name
Speaker 1: when they listed his accomplishments. They didn't give him a
Speaker 1: sake name and say he was drafted by the Dallas
Speaker 1: Mavericks like they did with what's his name, Damon kemp
Speaker 1: Gable stepson's brother. That's good. The others thing is uh, Seriously,
Speaker 1: when it comes to n x T two point. Now,
Speaker 1: I personally, this is my personal opinion, Brian. I know
Speaker 1: you have your opinion on it, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it should be on television anymore. I think that they
Speaker 1: should really just move it back to the network because
Speaker 1: you really can't get any emotional investment in characters that
Speaker 1: are just gonna get new gimmicks and get new name
Speaker 1: changes constantly. There's no real point in washing it if
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be like O E W when it
Speaker 1: was on some local Kentucky station UH in the mid
Speaker 1: two thousands. I just don't think there's any value of
Speaker 1: being on television when it could just go back to
Speaker 1: the network. And I just want to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that. Well, Bro, there's a big problem with your theory, brother,
Speaker 1: And that is the reason it's on the USA network
Speaker 1: is because they're making thirty to forty million dollars a
Speaker 1: year for it, and on Peacock they already got their money.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what they do. When when they're going
Speaker 1: to promote a pay per view and they do all
Speaker 1: their angles and everything, you're like, I don't care. I
Speaker 1: mean they don't care either. It doesn't matter if if
Speaker 1: you and a hunter of your buddies sign up for
Speaker 1: Peacock w w EC is none of that. They got
Speaker 1: paid up front. So if they take it off television
Speaker 1: and they put it on Peacock, they're just out thirty
Speaker 1: to forty million dollars a year. They get no extra
Speaker 1: money for people watching it on the network. So I mean,
Speaker 1: by the end of the day, this is all about money.
Speaker 1: That's it. It's all about we need to make the
Speaker 1: most money. Are we gonna make more money with raw
Speaker 1: at two hours or three hours? The question is not
Speaker 1: is raw gonna be better at two hours or three hours?
Speaker 1: Raw will be better at two hours, but they make
Speaker 1: more money at three hours. So we suffered through three
Speaker 1: hour ras. We got a developmental show, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: when you mentioned O v W back on those Kentucky stations,
Speaker 1: those developmental shows were multiples better than these n x
Speaker 1: T shows. These people are so green, the booking is whatever,
Speaker 1: but they're making thirty to forty million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: and so that's differences. You know, he wasn't Leviathan when
Speaker 1: he came up to the main roster. Now he was
Speaker 1: a deacon when he came up to the main roster first,
Speaker 1: but we'll forget about that. He became Batista, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And there was where in theory. What
Speaker 1: they're doing now is really what they want to do
Speaker 1: with the main roster because they want braun Breaker to
Speaker 1: be braun Breaker, And I know they change where kel
Speaker 1: Gonzalez name they are they are. They're going through a
Speaker 1: little phase there, but for the most part, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what they want on n x T. That's what they
Speaker 1: want these people to be when they come to the
Speaker 1: main roster, and some cases they're not gonna last as
Speaker 1: long as others. You know, again, we're going into May here,
Speaker 1: and I cannot believe we're not going to have some
Speaker 1: series of cuts, including some people that may have been
Speaker 1: featured in the last couple of months on n x
Speaker 1: T that you know, we're only gonna give you X
Speaker 1: amount of time and you're gonna be gone, you know.
Speaker 1: I uh, I think I've mentioned this before, but you know,
Speaker 1: the ideal length of Arresting Show is is probably about
Speaker 1: ninety minutes. It is about the perfect length. And if
Speaker 1: you guys watch Raw on Monday night and you skip
Speaker 1: through every video package and uh not even every entrance.
Speaker 1: But if you skip through every replay, video package and commercial,
Speaker 1: you literally can watch an hour of Raw in thirty
Speaker 1: minutes and the show ends up being ninety minutes. So
Speaker 1: that's something you can and it's actually it's uncanny that,
Speaker 1: like every every single hour on Raw, as long as
Speaker 1: I've been tracking this, there is exactly thirty minutes of
Speaker 1: viable content in each hour of the show. If you
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't even know how they do it.
Speaker 1: It's timed quite frankly, it's time perfectly where you're gonna
Speaker 1: get thirty minutes and the other thirty minutes is gonna
Speaker 1: be filler and commercials on every single hour of every
Speaker 1: single Raw, in every single SmackDown. I think n x T,
Speaker 1: TWOUP n x T has that overrun. So it's a
Speaker 1: little bit more. And uh, you know who did the
Speaker 1: best version of Raw besides obviously w w E when
Speaker 1: they were at their peak Memphis Memphis ninety minutes show,
Speaker 1: which would feature wacky things and longer interviews and interactions
Speaker 1: would beating, you know, between people at the desk. And
Speaker 1: obviously you scale this for what you know things have become,
Speaker 1: but like that is the ultimate in a ninety minute
Speaker 1: perfectly timed wrestling show. I mean as far as getting
Speaker 1: your fill of a little bit everything. So I wonder
Speaker 1: if we have anybody else calling in, go to the
Speaker 1: phones on the air. What's going on? He going once, Yes,
Speaker 1: what's up? Hey? How's it going? Good? It's going than sure,
Speaker 1: it's not going right now? What's going on? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No really, fact, I would just like to talk about
Speaker 1: how how great they only put the cap on the
Speaker 1: story of um the black the Blackpool Combat Club, I
Speaker 1: believe after acquiring after Tony acquired ro O h and
Speaker 1: you sign a guy like Samore Joe to come and
Speaker 1: back you up. Booking a match like him versus Monoral
Speaker 1: Suzuki was a great decision, not only for a w
Speaker 1: but for even the thought of UM ringa barn are
Speaker 1: doing more shows like the ones that they're planning in
Speaker 1: Chicago in June, And honestly, if you think about the
Speaker 1: tag team division and where it is right now, you
Speaker 1: would think the best thing to do would would be
Speaker 1: to put the Blackpool Combat Club uh. And it's uh
Speaker 1: newly invigorated for him through weirder utah and how he's
Speaker 1: been is tremendous honestly appreciate Uh. Um. Actually I feel
Speaker 1: honored to watch that match with him in John Motley
Speaker 1: because that was just beautiful the way that ended. It
Speaker 1: didn't have to end that way. He didn't have to
Speaker 1: tap out, but it happened. Um. And honestly, I believe
Speaker 1: that you put them up against the Young Bucks soon.
Speaker 1: I believe we could finally move on from seeing UH
Speaker 1: matches over and over and over again, because I'm think
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind that's what I'm afraid
Speaker 1: of seeing out of a w moving forward, seeing the
Speaker 1: same things. And you know, now we're thinking about who's
Speaker 1: getting pushed for what, who's on their way out the
Speaker 1: door and everything like that. And if you think about
Speaker 1: who's deserving of a championship opportunity at tag team championship opportunity, UM,
Speaker 1: I believe the Blackpool Combat Club would definitely be a
Speaker 1: front runner. UH next the names like the Young Bucks
Speaker 1: again and who else would you rather see? Well, let
Speaker 1: me say this, let me say this. I want to
Speaker 1: I want to thank you very much for the call.
Speaker 1: So listen, the other day we were doing Observer radio
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Dave was saying, you know, he's
Speaker 1: a big fan of the Blackpool Combat Club. Their matches
Speaker 1: have been great, and we need to get the belts
Speaker 1: on those guys as soon as possible. And uh and
Speaker 1: when he said that, I I I also thought no,
Speaker 1: And here's the deal. Listen, you should get belts on
Speaker 1: them as soon as possible, but it should be the
Speaker 1: six man titles, which we don't have yet. But we
Speaker 1: need a s A P. Because the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is, you know who's a hot tag team right
Speaker 1: now is f TR and they got FTR, and they
Speaker 1: got Red Dragon, and they got um FTR, Red Dragon
Speaker 1: and Durastic Express obviously the champions. And I got all
Speaker 1: these ideas in my mind leading to the pay per
Speaker 1: view of a three way feud, all three belts, Triple Crown,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if they're gonna do any
Speaker 1: of this, but when I think of all of these
Speaker 1: things that they could do with those three teams and
Speaker 1: all of these random sets of belts that they have,
Speaker 1: they don't need multiple tag team champions. Unify those titles
Speaker 1: at least for the time being, and then Blackpool Combat
Speaker 1: Club it's one of like fifty six man teams that
Speaker 1: they've got, so do the Triple Crown of the tag
Speaker 1: team titles. If you need to give the Triple A
Speaker 1: belts back or whatever, you can, but I mean Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor. If they're gonna tour, they need to sell tickets.
Speaker 1: So oh, I don't see any reason why FTR can't
Speaker 1: be regulars on Dynamite. And also new matches in a
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor is the Double Crown Champions or Triple
Speaker 1: Crown or whatever. And then your other set of belts
Speaker 1: is the six man titles. We have so many six
Speaker 1: man teams. Blackpool Combat Club first ever six man take
Speaker 1: team Champions great solves that problem. So that's what I
Speaker 1: would do, but ain't my company, and I disagree with
Speaker 1: a little bit of a caller and that we we're
Speaker 1: scared to see too many repeats. I think that's been
Speaker 1: one of the problems I've had with FTR is one,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them wrestle and tag team matches enough
Speaker 1: on you know, the main shows. And two we didn't
Speaker 1: get a whole lot of young bucks in FDR. We
Speaker 1: didn't get a whole lot of FDR and anybody. Because
Speaker 1: they have so many people, things get spread around a
Speaker 1: little bit and sometimes you forget about things. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: the whole field. The feud with Serena Deep and her
Speaker 1: car rush has been good. But I forgot they were
Speaker 1: actually feuding when they did the video package because they
Speaker 1: have so much other stuff going on, So I don't
Speaker 1: think that's really as much of a concern of seeing
Speaker 1: the same things over and over again. First, here wants
Speaker 1: to know if I'm going to the Forbidden Door show
Speaker 1: with Dave if so I can treat you to some
Speaker 1: real Chicago food. Well, first off, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm going. I might. It actually sounds like a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. But I had real Chicago food last time.
Speaker 1: Where did you go? I went to a lot of
Speaker 1: different places, went to Domino's, Burger King, different places. They're shameful,
Speaker 1: horrible person, horrible. Let's see, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: this person wrote. Sometimes like to go to the phones
Speaker 1: because these text messages just like gobbledegook. It's like they
Speaker 1: you know, I hate about phones. What's that? God, It's
Speaker 1: been a long time since I've gone off on something
Speaker 1: I and it's weird. It's weird because I just hate phones.
Speaker 1: So you know, I got the phone tape on it
Speaker 1: write a text message that stupid key and uh and
Speaker 1: this stupid, absolutely stupid auto correct. Okay, but you know
Speaker 1: it's worse than auto correct when it doesn't auto correct.
Speaker 1: I hate them. I hate them both. Never in my
Speaker 1: life if I ever wanted to use the word ducking,
Speaker 1: what am I gonna write? Some guys shooting at me?
Speaker 1: I'm ducking? Why would I ever use the word ducking
Speaker 1: ever in my lifetime? And no matter how many times
Speaker 1: I fix it, it doesn't save what I fixed. And
Speaker 1: then I turn off auto correct, and then oh it's
Speaker 1: a real mess because then it doesn't correct any of
Speaker 1: my mistakes. God, I hate these phones. Oh man, I
Speaker 1: think if you, if you put those words as a contact,
Speaker 1: it will make it much easier and it won't auto court.
Speaker 1: That's in a bunch of my context. That doesn't work.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Fayette Vili're on the air.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Well? I am not hope hope here?
Speaker 1: Do you know yesterday was National to Get off my
Speaker 1: Grass Day? Because it was Hey, I feel assuming you
Speaker 1: I understand the frustration of autocorrect and that kind of thing. Also,
Speaker 1: when you have big fat fingers, you cannot use one
Speaker 1: of those keys. But I have skinny, womenly, womanly fingers, dainty.
Speaker 1: I'm like a skeleton with skin. But are you nimble
Speaker 1: like everybody else? I guess can you do needle point
Speaker 1: and things like that you have? I don't try needle point,
Speaker 1: but the fact is I have perfect fingers for using
Speaker 1: that keyboard on the phone and it still doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, John, you're pain. I totally fail your pain.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I love this upcoming Forbidden Door thing,
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be good for all parties
Speaker 1: with things opening up again. And I'm with Mike on
Speaker 1: the FTR thing. I think there's probably a chance that
Speaker 1: they will entertain the idea of venturing over to New Japan,
Speaker 1: and I'm all for that. I am all for seeing
Speaker 1: more of them, And I'm with you on the Blackpool
Speaker 1: Combat Club thing. They don't need to be the tag
Speaker 1: team champions. Six man is fine. We need to get
Speaker 1: that thing going, like you said, because we've got multiple
Speaker 1: endless arrays of trios and multi man factions that can
Speaker 1: make this thing work, and it would be an exciting
Speaker 1: way to to boost up different things within the shows
Speaker 1: of Dynamite and Rampage. All right, Well, thank you, so
Speaker 1: much for the call. We gotta have to break everybody
Speaker 1: Observer alive. Mm hmm. You are listening to Wrestling Observer
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Speaker 1: Byline Broadcasting Network. You know, I do remember that. Um
Speaker 1: about a week ago, my wife and daughter went to
Speaker 1: the zoo, and of course I was here working and
Speaker 1: not spending time with my family and they went to
Speaker 1: the zoo and I'm trying to call him and they
Speaker 1: were over by the waterfowl. Anyway, it was so loud.
Speaker 1: I finally just hung up and I just texted, would
Speaker 1: you shut that duck up? Solve that problem? So, hey,
Speaker 1: we got more? Do we have to na? It's its
Speaker 1: what a week everybody. I hear the gym Valleys in Vegas.
Speaker 1: So tomorrow Wrestling Observer Live with Jim Valley, Teddy and
Speaker 1: Pacific one Eastern is gonna be a great show. I
Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna talk about, because he certainly
Speaker 1: had nothing to talk about today. Even Dave's hoping for
Speaker 1: big news for once. We got a contract signing tonight,
Speaker 1: so we do that contract braining. So make sure you
Speaker 1: check that out because that's gonna be really exciting. They're
Speaker 1: gonna go to sign a paper and then a fight's
Speaker 1: gonna break out, and Ron is gonna look like she
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be there, is gonna talk, Charlotte's gonna
Speaker 1: take a bad bump, and we can talk about all
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