WEBVTT - Friendsgiving: Part 2 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.440 Hey, guys, we are back with part two of Our 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:15.240 Bachelor Happy Our Friends Giving. Everybody welcome Brian, Joe, Kendall, Eric, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:19.120 Taysha and Katie. We're gonna flip this around a little bit. 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:25.720 We're gonna talk about the legendary Bachelor feuds. So we're 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.800 gonna start off with the most recent season, Luke P 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.240 versus basically everyone in the house. What side are you on, guys, 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.040 I mean, does anybody Luke P? I'm just confused how 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.559 he has so much power in that house that I 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.320 feel like he had all the power amongst all the guys. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.839 Definitely a power. Yeah, I didn't understand that. I was 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.440 there the first night, and I mean barely there, but 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.000 he was captivating and I thought he was going to 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.320 take it to the end. So I can see how 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.360 it was immediate threat type of power. Because when I 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.600 saw him with Hannah, I was even shocked. And I 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.720 feel like I have a pretty good intuition of about people, 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:04.640 and I was like, yeah, he's going to the end. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.880 Immediately their connection was just like a no brainer. So 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:13.360 maybe that's how I don't know. Also, remember like five 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.720 guys met Hannah. We had a time and you could 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:18.680 totally see that there was like something there between Luke 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.000 p and Hannah. The second I saw that, I was like, 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:22.400 he's going to the end. Oh he was a cat. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.480 I hadn't watched the seat obviously the season how it 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.120 started yet, but yeah, so maybe like everyone had seen 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.240 that prior to even going to the show, and so 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.399 they knew that there was already a little connection. I 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:33.800 didn't know he was one of the guys that met 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.600 her before he came up and like went like this 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.560 to Chris Harrison, like right in between. And I think 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.280 I think he was an easy target. Yes, basically, I 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.960 think he just he was you know, it was easy 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.600 to mess with him. And I think he would wear 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.840 his emotions on the sleeve and everyone knew it and 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.040 eventually it just snowball. Then it just became he was 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.160 He took it so seriously and he put all of 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:02.440 himself into it, and I think in that way, I 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.120 think he really loved her. Like I think even when 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:07.240 he said it at the beginning, I'm like, this guy's crazy, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.680 but I actually believe him. I really think he believe him. Joe, 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:19.880 you didn't believe Tasia. Yeah, the air conditioning was on 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:29.360 sixty five. I believe. Um. I think that there's not 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.359 a lot to talk about when you're in the bachelor bubble. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.200 So that is why he was such of like polarizing. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:37.960 Well he is a polarizing figure, but there's just like 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:39.760 what else you're gonna talk about. You're talking about Hannah, 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.359 you're talking about your feelings, and you're talking about Luke 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.760 p because he was just so much drama like that 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.240 is he was very He was very bold, basically saying 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.640 like this is my woman, right. So I think there's 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.400 I think there's a different way, like when you he 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.800 got the first impression roles. Correct, so I got the 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.960 first impression roles, but I think there's a different way 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.440 to handle it. I was very low key, I was humble. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.880 I wasn't boasting about getting the first impression roles or 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.520 anything to the other guys in the house. I think 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.200 so the fact that he got the first impression roles, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.200 he was a target. And then you add on that 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.760 he's basically gonna let you know about it. Yeah that 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:20.840 is oh sorry, I think that is what rubbed the 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.040 people the wrong way. Yeah, he almost expected a little 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.320 bit more after getting that first impression roles. I think 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.680 that he went into one of her interview rooms or something, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.519 he was expecting her to give like even more attention. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.079 He was like, well, I'm entitled to this now because 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.000 I know I'm at the top. And I think that 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.280 started really rubbing people the wrong way. And then so 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.280 they started nitpicking because all you gotta do is guide 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.800 chats in that house. So you're gonna guid chat about 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.320 Luke p you have nothing else to talk about. Well, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.640 I do believe just to feed off of Joe because 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.680 he went home win well when home came back, but 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.160 I think he was he was like, yeah, he was 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.120 final four on four, but if he was like final two, 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.720 I believe the final three he probably would have because 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.880 she was convinced. Yeah, I was like, wow, I think 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.600 if you would have been separated from the guys, how 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.760 final four is it, the attention would no longer be 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.480 on him and he would have just taken it to 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.200 the top. Absolutely, So are you team Lucy or everyone else? 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.520 It's hard because he was definitely ostracized, and because of that, 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.280 I think everyone jumped on the bandwagon of I mean, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.360 it's a defense mechanism to try to be a part 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.760 of a group because we find safety and groups. I 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.320 feel like it was he was unjustifiably ganged up on. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.320 At the same time, he did not react the best. Um, 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.560 But how do you react when you're backed into a corner. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.320 It's like the fight or flight. Either you're gonna back 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.279 down or you're gonna puff up your chest and you're gonna, 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.320 you know, show them for the man that you believe 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.919 the new environment with all these people you don't even know, 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.680 and to prove yourself like a blue he would be 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.480 judged in a different way, so there really was no 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.800 winning for him. I feel like we missed out on 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:56.040 some scenes. I feel like there was more because they 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:00.400 were the guys were so like passionate about their feelings 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.720 towards him. I'm like, we're missing something, yeah, right, like 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.920 there's something that someone from there that season and it 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.719 was so passionate about him that we're missing some of 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.200 the good said but she said it's yeah. She came 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:11.919 out and said, we're missing some of the you know, 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.719 like I saw, I know my relationship with him, I'm 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.720 pretty to things that you guys aren't. So it goes 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.880 both away. Hannah's not stupid. She wouldn't kept him around 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.920 if it was only that exactly, and I think she 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.400 wanted it to be him at the end for so long, 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.760 and he kept on disappointing her, and she's like, stop it, 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.960 just cool, yeah, stay cool, yes, stay cool, calm down. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.880 I see her side. I just like you stop it 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:37.360 right now. I will say that remember when he went, um, 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.599 she took him on the date and um, was it 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.719 Santorini that they went? To make that up? It's grease. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.280 They weren't Greece. Um, And she took him on the 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.560 date and they flew. I think they did it. They 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.040 flew to Santorini. I don't know if I'm making that up, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.360 but okay, they flew to Santorini. The way he was 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.200 with her, like when they were walking around town, I 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.720 was like, wow, maybe this is what she sees that 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.360 we don't, because he was really nice and really sweet, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:02.919 and I thought, okay, he's different with her than he 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:07.480 is with everyone else. Not a good characteristic But yeah. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.440 So I guess no team, because I can't really truly 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.120 judge the situation because, like I watched the edit, I mean, 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:19.080 we all did I guess what about did anyone? Did 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:30.360 anyone watch my season happen intelligent. I remember that night 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:37.840 so in Wisconsin and it's freezing cold and we're outside 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.120 and it would have been beautiful. We could have enjoyed 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:41.839 it if it hadn't been so cold. So anyways, it 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.160 was that night that Taylor decided to confront Karine and 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.480 she brought up this emotional intelligence and Karine was like, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.600 what is that? I have that with none of us. 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.200 I didn't know what that meant at that time, and 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:53.880 I think there was a line. I kept saying, what 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.479 the fuck is emotional intelligence? We were like so out 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.800 of it that night. Um, but that's what triggered it. 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.440 But I guess there really was no basis. There were 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.920 people who and I think you just have to be 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.440 one or two ways now, so there were people who 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:10.200 allow certain people's actions to affect them. Rather than to 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.920 quote Hannah, staying in your own lane and just being 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.600 you like the way Brian you said you were on 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:19.560 the season, people would allow someone else's behavior to become 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.360 to affect their behavior, and so that is what Taylor 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.920 allowed Karinn to do. I really think Taylor could have 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.360 gone a lot farther in the season if she had 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.880 not let karinne get to her, and then it ultimately 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.840 ended up being her demise and going home. I mean, I, 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.600 honestly at the time was team Karnne because I was 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.640 really close with Karann. It's just a relationship you just 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.120 didn't see on camera. I understood her, I felt like 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.240 better than most people and also took the time. People 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.400 would have girls chats about Karnne and she wouldn't even 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:50.800 be there, you know, and I was just like, I'm 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.520 not participating in this mass. This is ridiculous. But I 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.720 just think that at the time, just Taylor just let 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.400 Karrene get the best of her, and she let her win. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.080 And I think Karinn knew that she had to hold 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.440 on Taylor, and so she would poke a little bit 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.960 when it would come to her, and you know, it worked, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.600 it end up getting her sent home. Yeah, dang, well, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.080 I have a real question before we go to the 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.040 next few. When you guys want to show, did you 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.320 see it as a competition, because I was always asked 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.120 or you I was like, I don't see it as 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.160 a competition, no, because when it comes to the real dating, 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.840 like real world, when you're dating, um, it's not so 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.280 much the person's going to like whoever they want to, like, 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.400 there's nothing you can say or do or manipulate that's 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.360 going to get them to choose you over some other person. 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.440 So yeah, for the way I saw it, is like, 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.320 if this is the person that I'm actually meant to 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.240 be with, They're not going to let what other people 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.480 say affect the relationship with me, don't it. It was 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.600 more so like a test for me. But I did 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.800 like the whole two on one with Crystal. I was like, 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:44.840 either what she says is going to affect you when 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.160 you're not the kind of person I want to be with, 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.760 or it's not and we're gonna, you know, move on 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:56.480 with our relationship. Yeah, there you go. Yea. In my head, 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.360 I always thought Rachel's going to choose the best man 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.000 for her, yes, And if it wasn't me, I didn't 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.360 think it was an indictment on me. I just thought, 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.439 you know what, my person is out there and it's 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.960 not her, and it is what it is like. I 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.600 gave my all to the process and she didn't pick me, 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.480 so it is what it is like. Yeah, I would 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.160 have been heartbroken, but at the same time I knew 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.680 that I gave it my all, so eventually time would 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.200 have healed that. So I think speaking on like a 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.600 person like Karen, and not to say Demi's like Karann, 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.640 she would kill me if she heard me say that, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.720 But like Demi was very similar character in our house. Yeah, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.800 I think like kind of like Demi and Tracy. It 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.319 was like a similar situation. Like Demi knew she could 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.720 poke at Tracy in that moment, and she wouldn't have 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:43.120 done it if Tracy didn't allow her or didn't feel 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.240 so affected by it in that moment. So like Demi 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.200 was like, yeah, let's keep going. She's like that type 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.080 of person. I think Karen had the same attitude. I 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.520 think I commented on that. I was like, whatever I 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.600 was saying, I was like that, how does Demi she's 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.040 like twenty three years Like that is twenty three year 0:09:56.040 --> 0:10:00.000 old has that thirty year old crying at a closet? Yeah, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.960 I was like, she really has a hold on her 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.880 twenty four dim twenty four um a more recent feud, 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.640 And I'd really like to get you guys opinion on 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.840 this one, especially those who know them. Nicole and Clay, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:18.839 what's going on? Yes, what happened? I'm not going to 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.360 speak on I didn't even know there was At the 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.719 same time, I even told Nicole like, I'm staying out 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.600 of this, Like, in my eyes, yeall are being petty. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.400 So I'm just gonna bout doesn't she have a man? No? 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.960 The room at the reunion, right, Okay, so she did 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.480 had a boyfriend. Okay, so she was like talking to 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.840 a guy that was in Miami. Yes, okay, so we 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.559 can clear that up. I thought she had a man, 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.319 And this whole time I was like, No, what is 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.960 her man saying about this? Okay? No, well, what's it was? 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:52.480 I don't even know what's this? Who are they? Well, 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:53.760 I mean I know who they are, but I know 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.240 I know towards the end they broke up. So they 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:58.880 broke up, so it should be done and over with. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.400 Right now, they're in this social media feud and I'm 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.239 paraphrasing here, so correct me if I'm wrong, But basically 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.760 they're just going at each other. I guess he's made 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:13.000 some sly comments about her because the issue was that 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.360 he wasn't ready to take their relationship to that level, 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.880 and so he's made comments that play into that. And 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:23.680 then she's made comments about him and his career and yeah, 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.600 and now all the comments are simming from places of 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:32.719 her and like it's people are starting to take low blows. Yeah, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.880 I'm just talking to it in front of every phone call. 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.520 I mean, real conversation. Drama. It's a it's a fire 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.720 that's only fed if you if you like, feed it 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.360 like fuel. Right. I always talk about this when it 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.240 comes to drama. Either you feed into it and you 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.120 stoke the flame, or you just kind of don't react 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.360 and it sizzles out, like it's such a refreshed Like 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.640 in the social media world, everything's so refreshed and the 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.679 next thing so quickly. It's like, you know, if you 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.680 want it to keep going, you want there to be 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.880 people talking about you keep going with it. And in 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.559 certain ways, not that I have a lot of knowledge 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.400 about the topic, it seems like maybe it's something that 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.280 people are maybe holding onto. Yeah, you know, and I 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.800 think that even if they don't want it to be drama, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.720 there's a sense of pride in both of them and 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.480 like one person, yeah, you don't want to back down 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.800 because now you you made a huge point or a 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.000 huge statement. Both of them have made large statements and 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:29.960 it's like you don't want the other person to seem 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:34.680 like they won over you, per se, So yeah, they 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.960 both look I just don't understand how people feel so 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.800 big and bad by fighting with people over social media, 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.520 Like how how like so you send an angry tweet 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.920 or Instagram message or whatever, and you're like, ha, I 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.400 told that case and no one would ever say it 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.040 to your face exactly, Like that's like like, come at me, 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:58.800 you know what I mean. I just I just don't 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:04.640 understand the principle of arguing over social media. I really don't. Um. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.240 So I hope they stop. I hope they figure it 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.079 out and they just separate. There's a reason it didn't 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.600 work out. Now we're seeing it all play on social media, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.000 and I just hope that they can like, yeah, we'll 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.600 talk without a lot of piece. YEA talk without an audience, 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.120 because I feel like when you are talking in front 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.000 of an audience, there's a need to perform and to 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.679 showcase like your strength and also to protect your ego. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.160 And if you don't perform quote unquote in front of 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.679 an audience, then you can become real people. Yeah. I 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.480 don't think they've ever spoken like they haven't spoken, not 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.079 truly because they did it through union in front of games. 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.400 It's like, that's not real. They haven't like why didn't 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.080 we say they would just talk? It would be one thing. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.400 I think Nicole's hurt. I think Clay has his own feelings, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:47.680 and I just feel like if they just were to 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.200 like pick up phone just figure it out. Yeah, but 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.319 did they not air them when they weren't aired on 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.200 the They weren't aired on the But I think maybe 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.040 because of that, because the audience didn't have like a 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.000 button to end it, maybe they feel like they can't 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:01.360 end it. They have to end it in front of 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.800 an audience. You'll get a drink and talk about it, 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.760 drink some wine. I feel because I get to prove everything. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.120 You feel like you have to almost prove yourself and 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.720 prove your story to everyone who has an opinion about 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.000 your story. Right, So like if there's things that you 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.760 maybe if you solve argument with someone and it's all 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:25.960 figured out, then the audience that fans haven't seen you 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.480 figure see I haven't seen you figure it out. So 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.160 you almost feel like you owe it to them, to 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:32.800 them to like put this thing to bed. Yeah, and 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.080 you will never win that game. Or maybe you just 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.800 want at tension so you talk about it on social media, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.000 you know. But I was in a I was in 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.680 a feud with Vanessa and it wasn't aired, and but 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.840 then it like kind of became um when I was 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.480 on nixt season, and then it kind of became known 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.680 because certain people from the season would talk about it, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.120 but neither one of us ever went on social media 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.880 and went at each other. And actually she messaged me, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.760 like after time had passed and I had the bacherette, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.160 she messaged me. We got on the phone and we 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.000 didn't even hash out We didn't even hash out what 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.440 had happened because we're so many years past that. We 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.520 just picked up where we were and had a conversation 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.520 about it and wished each other the best and we're 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.040 totally friendly and cool now. And I mean, like what 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:22.840 a concept. Yeah, which, but time had to pass, we 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.080 had to separate. It had to be the right time 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:26.600 for us to be able to come to each other 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.880 and work that out. Um, I just thought about something, Okay, 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.920 So I'm switching. I'm moving on from the unless anybody 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.440 else wants talk about it. I just thought about something. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.040 So one of the things I was told. We get 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.240 a lot of questions from people, you know who watched 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.520 the show and are super fans, and one of them 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.400 is always how do we know each other? How do 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.800 we all meet? Because we always say this Bachelor nation 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.280 world is small. And I remember as I was going 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.880 to be a contestant on nixt season, a producer saying 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.240 to me, and maybe it was after that film, be 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:03.080 careful full. Past contestants will slide in your DMS and 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.120 talk to you. So if anybody's feeling a little frisky, 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.560 I want to know one did pass contestants from the 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.880 office the opposite sex slide in your dms? And if so, 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:23.680 who was it? Yeah, but I don't know. Yeah fine, 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:28.400 Oh my god, I feel bad. They said they know 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:35.360 it was just really nice. Um I forty Alex Alex Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.840 he was so cool, but um yeah. He was like 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.960 hopefully this you in paradise and I was like, yeah, same, 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:49.720 I don't know you all right, anybody else the takers, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.200 I was like, oh, I don't know. I think at 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:53.840 the time I was like this with Caroline, this is 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.600 weird anyway, Okay, Well can you just say this. Do 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:02.760 people slide in your dms? Yea Eric slid and your 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.760 DM's about an event but that's also how we meet 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:12.400 a lot of these people, right, Like, yeah, um, I'm 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.639 really upset nobody who wanted to talk about who slid 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.760 in my DMS. I'm trying to think it was. I 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.840 honestly don't remember. They were contestants who didn't make it 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.080 as far, but I remember when it happened, and I 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:26.160 was like, they were right. It's almost as if they Cam, Well, 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:30.440 it's easier because you said that. I'm like, Cam didn't slide. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.240 What happened was I when Joe and I did straight 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.160 hand and Sarah and I we were talking about ABC 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:40.280 always became his thing. I said, ABC stood for another 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:49.280 bad comb over? Remember that credit to Cam. He actually 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.040 took that really well. And he wrote me and he said, 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:53.960 you know, like another back come over and like showed 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.920 himself from the TV and like laughed about it. And 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.359 I was like, wait to be a good sport and 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.119 realize it's all in fun and it's very personal. So 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.680 it wasn't like a like that. I think people are 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.879 at this point. People are afraid to slide an idea 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.600 because they're afraid not just because I'm married, because I 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.359 don't know, they think maybe I'll use it as content 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.720 on the podcast or something like I just did, Alex. 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.160 I think there is like you feel like you are 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.080 connected to the people who are on previous seasons, and 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:21.639 if you've gone through it and you see other people 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.240 go through it, then you, I mean there's a need 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.359 or a want to like reach out and to be 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.840 like it's gonna be okay. So yeah, yeah, it's easier. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.760 It's easier to flirt. Okay, that's what it is. It's 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.600 easier to flirt because honestly, if you slide into somebody's 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.520 DMS that's been on the same show as you, the 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.960 odds are they're probably going to get back to you 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.880 opposed if you just slide on some random person's DM. Yeah, 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:45.760 so that's really what it is. It's just it's just 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.720 an easier way to say hello. Yeah, the ice is 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.159 broken up. Yeah, the ices are exactly. I saw you 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:56.320 kiss someone on TV. Yeah. But piggyback on what you 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.000 said though about you know, you see these people come 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.479 through the show, they have have had your experience. Do 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.120 you feel that because we're about to have a whole 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.080 new crop of girls. I'm talking to the ladies in 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:07.800 the room right now, a whole new crop of girls 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.399 come in with Peter season. Do you feel like you 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.639 need to reach out to them? No? I mean no, 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.320 I feel like I usually don't. I'm the kind of 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.240 person that unless I meet you in person, it's hard 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:22.919 for me to kind of like open up and to 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.920 speak on messages and stuff like that. Um And also, 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.760 I don't really look at the hidden dms because you know, 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.080 and I wait to follow people until, like I get 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.240 to know them a little bit more. Um So, in 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.840 that regard, I don't feel like I do feel like 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.400 maybe some of the girls would reach out to people 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.680 that they saw had similar circumstances, you know, and the 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:49.400 hidden dms it could be some business opportunities. For a year, 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.560 I didn't even know they existed. I know. Yeah, it 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:54.719 took me a good whole year to even know about that. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.760 And that's after the show. So I'm like, I probably 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.480 missed out on a ton of opportunities because I didn't 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.840 know about that these people. Yeah, yes, yeah, and then 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.480 I realized that later as well. Oh it's hard for 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:09.040 me because when I when contestants that are coming up 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.040 do reach out, it's it's weird. It's like I want 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.600 to give advice, but at the same time. I think 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.880