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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, we are back with part two of Our

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Our Friends Giving. Everybody welcome Brian, Joe, Kendall, Eric,

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Speaker 1: Taysha and Katie. We're gonna flip this around a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the legendary Bachelor feuds. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start off with the most recent season, Luke P

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Speaker 1: versus basically everyone in the house. What side are you on, guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, does anybody Luke P? I'm just confused how

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Speaker 1: he has so much power in that house that I

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Speaker 1: feel like he had all the power amongst all the guys.

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Speaker 1: Definitely a power. Yeah, I didn't understand that. I was

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Speaker 1: there the first night, and I mean barely there, but

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Speaker 1: he was captivating and I thought he was going to

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Speaker 1: take it to the end. So I can see how

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Speaker 1: it was immediate threat type of power. Because when I

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Speaker 1: saw him with Hannah, I was even shocked. And I

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Speaker 1: feel like I have a pretty good intuition of about people,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, he's going to the end.

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Speaker 1: Immediately their connection was just like a no brainer. So

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Speaker 1: maybe that's how I don't know. Also, remember like five

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Speaker 1: guys met Hannah. We had a time and you could

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Speaker 1: totally see that there was like something there between Luke

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Speaker 1: he's going to the end. Oh he was a cat.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't watched the seat obviously the season how it

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Speaker 1: started yet, but yeah, so maybe like everyone had seen

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Speaker 1: that prior to even going to the show, and so

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Speaker 1: they knew that there was already a little connection. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know he was one of the guys that met

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Speaker 1: her before he came up and like went like this

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Speaker 1: to Chris Harrison, like right in between. And I think

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Speaker 1: I think he was an easy target. Yes, basically, I

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Speaker 1: think he just he was you know, it was easy

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Speaker 1: to mess with him. And I think he would wear

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Speaker 1: eventually it just snowball. Then it just became he was

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Speaker 1: He took it so seriously and he put all of

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Speaker 1: think he really loved her. Like I think even when

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Speaker 1: but I actually believe him. I really think he believe him. Joe,

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Speaker 1: you didn't believe Tasia. Yeah, the air conditioning was on

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Speaker 1: sixty five. I believe. Um. I think that there's not

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about when you're in the bachelor bubble.

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Speaker 1: So that is why he was such of like polarizing.

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Speaker 1: Well he is a polarizing figure, but there's just like

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Speaker 1: what else you're gonna talk about. You're talking about Hannah,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about your feelings, and you're talking about Luke

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Speaker 1: p because he was just so much drama like that

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Speaker 1: is he was very He was very bold, basically saying

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Speaker 1: I think there's a different way, like when you he

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Speaker 1: got the first impression roles. Correct, so I got the

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Speaker 1: first impression roles, but I think there's a different way

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Speaker 1: to handle it. I was very low key, I was humble.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't boasting about getting the first impression roles or

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Speaker 1: anything to the other guys in the house. I think

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Speaker 1: so the fact that he got the first impression roles,

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Speaker 1: he was a target. And then you add on that

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Speaker 1: he's basically gonna let you know about it. Yeah that

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Speaker 1: is oh sorry, I think that is what rubbed the

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Speaker 1: that he went into one of her interview rooms or something,

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Speaker 1: he was expecting her to give like even more attention.

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Speaker 1: He was like, well, I'm entitled to this now because

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Speaker 1: I know I'm at the top. And I think that

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Speaker 1: they started nitpicking because all you gotta do is guide

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Speaker 1: chats in that house. So you're gonna guid chat about

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Speaker 1: Luke p you have nothing else to talk about. Well,

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Speaker 1: I do believe just to feed off of Joe because

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Speaker 1: he went home win well when home came back, but

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Speaker 1: I think he was he was like, yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: final four on four, but if he was like final two,

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Speaker 1: I believe the final three he probably would have because

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Speaker 1: final four is it, the attention would no longer be

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Speaker 1: the top. Absolutely, So are you team Lucy or everyone else?

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Speaker 1: It's hard because he was definitely ostracized, and because of that,

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Speaker 1: I think everyone jumped on the bandwagon of I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a defense mechanism to try to be a part

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Speaker 1: feel like it was he was unjustifiably ganged up on.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, he did not react the best. Um,

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Speaker 1: But how do you react when you're backed into a corner.

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Speaker 1: It's like the fight or flight. Either you're gonna back

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Speaker 1: some scenes. I feel like there was more because they

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Speaker 1: the good said but she said it's yeah. She came

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Speaker 1: like I saw, I know my relationship with him, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty to things that you guys aren't. So it goes

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Speaker 1: both away. Hannah's not stupid. She wouldn't kept him around

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Speaker 1: and he kept on disappointing her, and she's like, stop it,

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Speaker 1: Santorini that they went? To make that up? It's grease.

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Speaker 1: They weren't Greece. Um, And she took him on the

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Speaker 1: flew to Santorini. I don't know if I'm making that up,

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Speaker 1: but okay, they flew to Santorini. The way he was

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Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, he's different with her than he

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Speaker 1: So I guess no team, because I can't really truly

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Speaker 1: we all did I guess what about did anyone? Did

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Speaker 1: anyone watch my season happen intelligent. I remember that night

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Speaker 1: so in Wisconsin and it's freezing cold and we're outside

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Speaker 1: she brought up this emotional intelligence and Karine was like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what that meant at that time, and

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Speaker 1: I think there was a line. I kept saying, what

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Speaker 1: of it that night. Um, but that's what triggered it.

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Speaker 1: But I guess there really was no basis. There were

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Speaker 1: the season, people would allow someone else's behavior to become

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Speaker 1: just think that at the time, just Taylor just let

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Speaker 1: And I think Karinn knew that she had to hold

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Speaker 1: I have a real question before we go to the

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Speaker 1: next few. When you guys want to show, did you

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Speaker 1: see it as a competition, because I was always asked

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Speaker 1: or you I was like, I don't see it as

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Speaker 1: a competition, no, because when it comes to the real dating,

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Speaker 1: like real world, when you're dating, um, it's not so

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Speaker 1: more so like a test for me. But I did

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Speaker 1: like the whole two on one with Crystal. I was like,

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Speaker 1: think it was an indictment on me. I just thought,

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Speaker 1: so it is what it is like. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: she would kill me if she heard me say that,

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Speaker 1: But like Demi was very similar character in our house. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think like kind of like Demi and Tracy. It

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Speaker 1: was like a similar situation. Like Demi knew she could

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Speaker 1: so affected by it in that moment. So like Demi

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Speaker 1: think I commented on that. I was like, whatever I

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Speaker 1: was saying, I was like that, how does Demi she's

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Speaker 1: like twenty three years Like that is twenty three year

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Speaker 1: old has that thirty year old crying at a closet? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like, she really has a hold on her

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Speaker 1: twenty four dim twenty four um a more recent feud,

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Speaker 1: And I'd really like to get you guys opinion on

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Speaker 1: this one, especially those who know them. Nicole and Clay,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Yes, what happened? I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: speak on I didn't even know there was At the

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Speaker 1: same time, I even told Nicole like, I'm staying out

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Speaker 1: of this, Like, in my eyes, yeall are being petty.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna bout doesn't she have a man? No?

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Speaker 1: It's just it's like a weird place because the show's

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Speaker 1: he talked about you on the podcast. No no, no, Yeah,

427
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: I had or listen to that too. Joe and I

428
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: are too close in a good way. Any argument Joe

429
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: starts playing the podcast. Oh he, Joe's on any sort

430
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: of interview or podcast he like. I'll see him like

431
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: listening to it again, and then we'll listen to it

432
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: and listen to it a few times. It's cute. That's

433
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: not true. I don't listen to all of it. In

434
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: the beginning. Yeah, in the beginning it was even worse

435
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: because I used to give some bad interviews. Yeah, well,

436
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: I think in general, I think men in general, it

437
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: takes us time to emotionally mature, and some guys that

438
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: get in that space, their life changes. And you have

439
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: all these opportunities, and you have distractions, and if you're

440
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: not emotionally mature, mentally mature, and you don't understand life

441
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: for relationships. You might not be in it for what

442
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: it is because in the moment, let's be clear, we're

443
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: in a fantasy world of dating on the show, even

444
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: though we're in love or we're But when you get

445
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 1: outside of that, you gotta look at real life and

446
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: what's real and what's not. What's this because I was

447
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: in a state of love, this is why I fell

448
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: in love? Or is this something I really want? Because

449
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: you don't know until you know. And I think most

450
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: men were just not emotionally mature at what twenty five,

451
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty eight, maybe thirty two, thirty three, maybe

452
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: some younger, depending on how they were raised. But it

453
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: takes time. I got you know you guys, Brian Rachel

454
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: like I grew on a show, like she grew up

455
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: my beard and everything. My life changed. But I learned

456
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: so much about myself and just opening up and being vulnerable.

457
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: And I think the date right before Hometowns, I was

458
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: so afraid to tell her where I grew up. I

459
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: was like, She's like, she's not gonna like I was

460
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: all in my head and then she's like, oh fine,

461
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: I was like wow. And so it's those parts of

462
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: a man and being vulnerable and opening up that we're

463
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: insecure about because we don't know and whom were like,

464
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: just tell me everything. Yeah, okay, yeah, and you're like,

465
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: really we are. And so men just need more time

466
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: to develop, I believe, and when you put on a

467
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: big stage like that is hard. So to the guys,

468
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: that's you know, the recent Bachelor is about, you know,

469
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: hopefully you guys, if you're still in relationships, you stay.

470
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: But if not, you know, I just got work to do. Yeah,

471
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: And to the Bachelor, I being more successful you were saying,

472
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: I think it's tough. I think like kind of piggybacking

473
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: on what you were saying, Eric, is that people men

474
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: come out of their shell and egos. I think for

475
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: men lower tremendously on the Bachelorette because they're not guys

476
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: are not used to having to like kind of fight

477
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: for that attention. They're like, what bounce? But on the

478
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: Bachelor you're forced to do that. I feel like girls

479
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: in some sense kind of feel like they're in a

480
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: constant state of that. I don't know. Sometimes I feel like,

481
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: and maybe not for every Bachelor, sometimes I feel like

482
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: the Bachelor gets a bigger ego because he's got all

483
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: these girls chasing after himarette it's like such an opposite

484
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: experience because all these guys lower their egos and have

485
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: to like put that completely aside and go for this

486
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: woman and respect her and now be vulnerable, and they

487
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: grow so tremendously. As for the girls, they're almost like

488
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: and not to say this was every bachelor, but almost

489
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: like chasing someone who is their egos growing. Yeah. Yeah, well,

490
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: I think I think for women women we talked about

491
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: this before, but for women, they look at it like

492
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: it kind of lost my trade of thought. Women women

493
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: look at it like can this work in the real world? Yeah,

494
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: where guys look at it like who's the hottest? Yeah,

495
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: and that that's just the truth, Like you're like, who

496
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: am I the most attracted to? You know? And I

497
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: think that's why the women of the show The Bachelorette

498
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: seems to be more successful in my opinion, or let's

499
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want to,

500
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, if age is a fact, they're having kids

501
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: at a certain age. I feel like women have a

502
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: timeline where I want to get married by this time

503
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: and I have kids, because if I don't have kids

504
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: at before thirty five or whatever, then I can't have them.

505
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. Men, we're like, I can get married

506
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: at thirty five, forty five, forty so it's no rush

507
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: to get into Yeah, women were fighting the clock right

508
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: now we're like, we gotta go. We gotta go everyday

509
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: marriage to have a year of like the funny moon phase.

510
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: Then we got to have the baby and then yeah,

511
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: we're like, man, if you could do this all over again,

512
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: would you no, what do you mean in terms of

513
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: like if you if you could do like, yeah, if

514
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: you could from where you started on this bachelor journey,

515
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: if you could go all over again, dar do it

516
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: all over again? Would you have done it? Would you audition?

517
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: Would you go through casting? Would you go on the show? Yeah?

518
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I think it changed everyone. I

519
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: mean I think for most people, even if you are

520
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: the villain on a season, it changed your life for

521
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: the better. Maybe you self reflected in different ways. You know,

522
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: I found a man, so in that way, and it

523
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: also like I feel like amazing, man. I think I

524
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: think it allowed me to have more of a long

525
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: term relationship because I would usually end relationships around the

526
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: eight to ten month mark when and I would kind

527
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: of give up on relationships and not want to put

528
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: a lot of work into it. And with Joe, it

529
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: was such a different relationship because I was a different person,

530
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: and I think he grew in a lot of ways too,

531
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: because I'm like your first girlfriend pretty much in a

532
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: lot of ways. Yeah, so I mean you change, you change,

533
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: definitely grew up. And also the one thing that I

534
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: really like about the show is I feel like everyone

535
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: is afraid to say I want marriage, I want something serious,

536
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: I want that, and the show applauds that and celebrates

537
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: people wanting commitment and wanting long term relationships. And in

538
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: the real world, you feel like if you want that,

539
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: it's too vulnerable or it ends up being like too much,

540
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: too soon. And the show's like, you should be in

541
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: love the next day, so you're not afraid to put

542
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: yourself out there. You almost feel like there's something wrong

543
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: with you if you're not there right. And I think, like,

544
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can ask this question we're

545
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: asking Eric in the dating world. Now. I am trying

546
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: to imagine it because it must be how do I

547
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: say this? It must be tough in the dating world

548
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: because on the show, You're so likely to ask these

549
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: hard questions. And I feel like whenever I would ask

550
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: hard questions on like a second date, scares people away.

551
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: But those types of questions or like the questions were like,

552
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why you didn't ask that already on

553
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: the show. So in the dating world, now, do you

554
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: find that you're now more readily available to open up?

555
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: I think for me, women are. They're even shocked. They're

556
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: intimidated because I'm so emotionally available and so available just

557
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: listen to talk. I'm like, I'll tell you whatever you

558
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: want to know. I'm spiritual. So since I've been young,

559
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: it's always been you're different. Okay, what does that mean?

560
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: You're different? So that's been a struggle. But I think

561
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: most people are not used to an emotionally available guy.

562
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah man thinks about you, that calls you like, okay,

563
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: you need anything about Yeah, I'm on it. You're ready

564
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: to have those conversations, so it's like too much too soon,

565
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: or like oh hold on, pomp the Brinch brother. Yeah.

566
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: They're used to the person checking on, not motivating them

567
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: in the morning, not caring about it. Does that help you,

568
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: like read them out because maybe they're just not ready

569
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: for what you're ready for, and you're looking for somebody

570
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: that is, well, say next. But I think also the

571
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: challenges if you do like someone like I was telling

572
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: you off off Mike that you know, I felt hard

573
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: for someone they just wasn't really ready, but I was

574
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: willing to, you know, pace it out and see what.

575
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: But I realized it's just not gonna work right. And

576
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: somebody girls think they're ready, yeah, and what they're ready

577
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: for is the guy to text them back, not a

578
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: guy to ask them to hard. That was the conversation.

579
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: I said, do you really think you want to be

580
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: in a relationship and she was like, I really don't

581
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: know when I think about it. And I said, that's

582
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: okay because I felt you running, I can feel your energy,

583
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: but I still care about you. I love you, Like

584
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: it's okay, so we're still friends. But it's it's like

585
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: I think, Brian, you set off Mike when it's time,

586
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: it's time. So for me, it's not all about timing.

587
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: You're not afraid to confront that. Yeah, And I think

588
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: the show helped me, yeah, to be conversation or opportunity.

589
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: And it's times when I'm running as well, but that

590
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: makes you different though, quote unquote different. That's a good thing. Yeah, yeah,

591
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just saying, like it's been that

592
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: since I wish. I wish more guys were like that.

593
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: I think they say that didn't get it. It's like whoa, Yeah,

594
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: like for some women from yeah experience, yeah, don't get that,

595
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, whoa, you are everything I want, But

596
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I want that right because it can

597
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: be too much. So it's it's just it's been different,

598
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: but it's been good. I've learned a lot, and sometimes

599
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: in general, people have all the check boxes on paper

600
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: and it's still not what you want. And it's just

601
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: because there's something that doesn't click. And that's okay. Yeah,

602
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean I can speak on you can't. Sorry, go ahead,

603
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm thinking, well, I think the reason why

604
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: I was out an watching him and he's like blowing

605
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: bow said um anyway, I feel like there's the fear

606
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: of putting too much and committing to someone that you

607
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: feel like, UM doesn't want those same things. So I

608
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: think the reason why I didn't work out for Joe

609
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: and I, at least on the show, is because there

610
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: was the fear that, um, there's a fear that maybe

611
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't be reciprocated, you know, in the same way. And

612
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: I would say guys coming off the show maybe have

613
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: a completely different experience than girls coming off the show. Um,

614
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: And so maybe for a guy's like, oh, I can

615
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: like you know, go around date and everything, and then

616
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: for a girl's like, oh, man, like I've just learned

617
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: all this about myself and I want to put it

618
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: into like one person. I'm not trying to generalize women

619
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: and men, but it's a fear. It's a fear to

620
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: think like when you get off of this, and it's

621
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: a female based audience. So um, when girls come off,

622
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: it's more so like celebrating relationships. When guys come off,

623
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, there's such a field of like options,

624
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: And so that is also something that's contributed to different experiences,

625
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: as a fear to change your mind about how you feel. Yeah,

626
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: because like we've done this for so long, how can

627
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: you not being I'm like, I just don't feel that anymore.

628
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: And I think people are free and so people stay

629
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: in it because it is comfortable and it is right.

630
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: Why would I get out of it? Look at our

631
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: life but that's not always icing them a right. Yeah,

632
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: it looks good, but it doesn't feel good. What's interesting, too,

633
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 1: is that you can tell the difference of change in

634
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: people from the people that left in the first three

635
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: weeks and the people that stayed on after that. Yeah. Yeah,

636
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: like the people that traveled together or whatever the case

637
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: may be. At one point it's like a cutoff and

638
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: the learning and how much people grew. You can kind

639
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: of see even in the conversations after the show. I

640
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: guess you'll talk to people from like week two or

641
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: three and you're like, whoa, there's just a disconnect. Yeah. Yeah,

642
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: speaking of the people in like week one, two, and three,

643
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: and you're talking about relationships with those people and beyond

644
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: after the show, Do y'all conclude them in the group chat?

645
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: Because there is the group chat, the infamous group chat. Yeah,

646
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: I think there's some, don't But we stopped a group

647
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: chat a long time ago for Paradise. Oh well, no,

648
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: there was a Bachelor group chat too. I was in

649
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: it and I was a Week one guy, but I

650
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: never participated. I think there was, so there might still

651
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: be a group chat. It's just not Yeah, there was

652
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: some I think it was selective kind of With Bachelor,

653
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: I actually asked I didn't want to be on the

654
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: group chat, so I didn't. I'm not in that, but

655
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: Paradise I was in that one. Yeah, it's just like

656
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: too much sometimes, you know, Yeah, it's too much. And

657
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: it's usually the people except you, Joe. It's usually people

658
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: who did not make it longer, who are like clinging

659
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: on to, you know, ready to tell what happened. I

660
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of opinions, so you know, we're all

661
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: we all come from the same world, and we talk

662
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: about questions of people ask us. And I know one

663
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: of the questions I get all the time is what

664
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: do you do in the mansion all day? What do

665
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: you do? And I'm like, we do interviews, we eat,

666
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: we tan, we lay out, we work out. Like it's

667
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: pretty much like a eat, sleep, shit type thing, right,

668
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: Like it's like everything. But one of the things you

669
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: could do is play games. I don't know if you

670
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: guys play games. We played drinking games and that those

671
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: were some of the most wild nights wild. But one

672
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: of the games we would play is never have I Ever?

673
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: So I want to play the Bachelor edition never Have

674
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: I Ever? You guys everybody's played this game before, right,

675
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: so we all know the rules. I don't know the rules. Yeah,

676
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: I don't know the rules. I've done, So if you've done,

677
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask a question. Never have I ever you know,

678
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: had a threesome? Yeah? Okay, we played this on my season.

679
00:34:54,200 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: I just realized answer the truth. I remember if we

680
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: did the boat party in South Hill. Yeah, if you

681
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: have done, then never have I ever. You have to

682
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: take a sip of your drink and you are empty,

683
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: so you need to fill up drink if you have. Okay,

684
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: so we're gonna get real close and learn a lot

685
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: about each other really quickly. So here we go. Oh,

686
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: right in line, We've already talked about this. Never have

687
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: I ever slid into another member of bats Nations DMS

688
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: in general? Did you know them before? Because I Katie,

689
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: I feel like you're trying to rationalize at drink and

690
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: just for all of you out there, those who are

691
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: drinking are Eric, Katie, Ohia, Brian, I'm looking at you

692
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: real quick to make sure you're not drinking on this one.

693
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: Never have I ever hit in the bathroom to avoid

694
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: being filmed? Oh yeah, everybody drank except Eric. Look at

695
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: the camera. We were all so tired of talking. Oh okay,

696
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: never have I ever cried on camera? Everyone will I

697
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: didn't cry? Oh okay, right, everybody, So everybody took a

698
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: sip except for Brian. I didn't take a sip. I

699
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I thought you cried in Paradise.

700
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: For some reason, you can't. Maybe I stepped away from

701
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: the camera. That count. Really, you never cried on camera.

702
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: I remember it was in Spain and we were doing

703
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: b roll and it was down to the last two

704
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: and just the thought of losing her or not having

705
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: her moving forward, I got a little tear eyed, and

706
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I just stepped away. I was actually about to round

707
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: a corner where they were going to be filming me,

708
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, give me two minutes, which is

709
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: actually because Brian is emotional so like and he's like

710
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: very in touch with emotions. So I'm actually shocked. You

711
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: didn't cry on camera. Oh and I cried on camera.

712
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: My producer was crying. So everybody was crying. It was

713
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: a crime party. Oh here's a good one. Never have

714
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: I ever hooked up in Paradise? Wait, let me break this.

715
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: Never have I ever hooked up in the Paradise boom

716
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: Boom room, Katie's taking a sist. How do you think

717
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: I got a fiance? I made it Joe and I

718
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: made it a point not to go in the boobom room.

719
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it was more so my decision not to go

720
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: into speak for yourself. Yeah, I was like, I'm not

721
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: going to pressure you, but if you want to, I'm

722
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: not gonna say no. First of all, I knew that

723
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: if I was alone in a room with leaving with Joe,

724
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: it was going down, and I did. I did not

725
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: want it to be where cameras were present. But are

726
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: cameras in the boom boom Yes? So I just didn't

727
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: trust myself alone. But they don't air that right, like

728
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't. There's a rustling. What's going on? Yeah? I

729
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: know they aired other people in our our season. Well,

730
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: that was an intense boom bo room situation. What happened?

731
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: They had a lot of passions for each other, Yeah,

732
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: there was as Yeah, it was cute. It was cute.

733
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean you passion. I mean you're you're dating for

734
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: a while and you have like that sexual tension building

735
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: up and U I believe me. I wanted to. I

736
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: definitely wanted to go with Joe. But um, I think

737
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: I was just so worried about there being video evidence.

738
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't I started worrying about it after it already happened,

739
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, well yeah, I mean this

740
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: is in my head. Um okay, wait, Eric Tasia, no

741
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: boom boom y'all never went in the boom boom room

742
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: or you just want to be quiet? No, not a

743
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: good one. You are. You are not a good liar.

744
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that you have to be in a

745
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: relationship to go boom boom. I mean how actually going

746
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: to boom booe with you? Oh? I thought. I mean

747
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: I've never been to Paradise. I just everybody's wildly it's hot.

748
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: Well I never had room. One of them was air conditioned,

749
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, gotta go in there. Yeah,

750
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: when you get air conditioning, something happens changed. You're like,

751
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: where this is life? Now? Wow? Amazing? Okay. Never have

752
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: I ever had to go to the hospital while filming?

753
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: It's none of us, right, Yeah, no I don't. I

754
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: don't know if that'll happen again. Um okay, never have

755
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: I ever been in a hot tub in an obscure location?

756
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: Oh well, what do you mean by that? Oh, I've

757
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: never Oh, I never haven't done that either. I was

758
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: like in a hallways, um, pretty much did everybody drink? No?

759
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: Not jo is gonna be the host of everybody not Joe? Um? Okay.

760
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Never have I ever won a group date? Rose, I've

761
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: never won a group day. I've never won a group date. Rose,

762
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: take a drink, Katie. Oh wait oh wait no really never, gosh,

763
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: I keep joy. Actually, if you know three one counts,

764
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: it's a group The three on one count as a

765
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: group date. It's totally a group what. Yeah, that counts?

766
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: That aroup before Okay, I'll take it. I'm gonna skip

767
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: around here. I'm gonna skip around. Um. Never have I

768
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: ever kissed a celebrity? Oh, Joe's a celebrity. So true

769
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: that bachelor people don't count. Never have I ever kissed

770
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: the celebrity? What's considered? What is considered? It? What Instagram celebrity?

771
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Instagram celebrities don't count? An actual like a like an actor,

772
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: actress who's popular? Yeah, somebody somebody who's okay, wow, who's

773
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: a Rachel? Still? Um? I I was going to say

774
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 1: something and then I was like, wait, that's not don't worry.

775
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: It's not anything you don't know, Bran Rangel anybody else. Um,

776
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Never have I ever done it in a public place?

777
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: What's public outside the home? Oh? Has everybody's drinking? Come on?

778
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 1: I know, I know we're right everybody. I have a risk.

779
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: Never have I ever skinny dipped? I have never show goes.

780
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure I was younger, seven year old, I'm sure.

781
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure, like a summer in high school or something. Um, okay, oh,

782
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: this is a good one. Never have I ever dined

783
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: and dashed? Oh? Never? Oh my god? Where you eat?

784
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Where you eat? So Jo like grew up in Chicago.

785
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Where was it? Hold on? What restaurant? Um? And we

786
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: did it at um? I think steak and shake? Okay, okay,

787
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: late nights for you. I mean it was it was

788
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: a chain. It was corporate against the man. Yeah, I mean,

789
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: you know you were a kid. Here's like sixth seventh

790
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: grade and so like it was just for fun. Yeah,

791
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: I was like, let's get out of here, scram Did

792
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: they realize? Yeah, but they can't you do it. You're

793
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: not condoned dine and dash on this podcast. Yeah, I

794
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: mean we're talking about like ten year olds. Like, I

795
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: don't do that anymore. Have you been back there since?

796
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: I've actually I spent way too much money on really,

797
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: be honest with you, if you actually looked, I looked

798
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: at my American Express card, I'm what I spent this year,

799
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: and I'm sick. No, I'm not going, but I mean restaurants.

800
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: I've made it up to them, trust me. Okay, here

801
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: this is this is the last one. So this is

802
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: a good one. Never have I ever had a one

803
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: night stand? Yeah? The only sex I knew for a

804
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: while that knows that would be drinking our Joe, Eric,

805
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: all the guys, Grand Rachel, Katie. We are done with

806
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: the game playing portion of the show, so can everybody

807
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: put on their headphones. We have a special person joining

808
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: us on the podcast for our Friends Giving. Everybody have

809
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: their headphones on? Yeah, hello, Hello, Hello, Oh my god?

810
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: Is that Peter the Bad what's going on? Guys? What's up?

811
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate you joining our Friends Giving. No, thank you

812
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: guys for having me. Nobody knew you were coming on.

813
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: This is a surprise. Has anybody in the room met Peter? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

814
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: So who's all who's all here? Yes? Okay, so you've

815
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: got Rachel, my husband, Brian, Joe grocery store, Joe, Ken, Eric, Taysia,

816
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: and Katie. Okay, yeah, very cool. How are you guys

817
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: doing good? How are you I am? I'm definitely enjoying

818
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: life right now. It's it's pretty good. It's quite the

819
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: journey so far. Peter. You sound in love. If I

820
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: must say yes, I mean as there is love in

821
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: this room. But I'm telling you you really sound yeah.

822
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: I've been trying my absolutely best to stay so open,

823
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: not get too you know, too too invested in just

824
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: one relationship and then close myself off a little too early.

825
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: I remember talking about your season and we said, I

826
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: was like, he's probably gonna fall in love with five women.

827
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: He's just such a lover like it's just definitely going

828
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: to get something out of him this season, and I

829
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: don't know it's going to be a happy ending. So

830
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: we're excited for you. Since we are doing Franks Giving

831
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: in the spirit of Thanksgiving, what are you most grateful

832
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: for so far as the Bachelor? I mean, I'm just

833
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: just for this entire experience. I've been feeling just so

834
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: grateful for the last couple months that, for whatever reason,

835
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, I was chosen to have this amazing, you know, experience,

836
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: an opportunity to go find love in such a fun way,

837
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: a once in a lifetime, you know, a type of way.

838
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: I feel so grateful for honesty, all the women that

839
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: I've been able to meet on this on this journey,

840
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: and literally, like you guys are going to see such

841
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: an amazing group. I can just tell like, for the

842
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: most part, they're just all here, you know, for me

843
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: and really giving this a shot. And I've just been

844
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: so thankful for that. I will tell you from one

845
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: lead to another while you put a phone in your hand,

846
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: run Google something, take it away. I'm gonna let you

847
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: go right now. Thank you for so much, Thanks so much.

848
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: Well you guys, how happy to hate her? Sound? Who's madam?

849
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: You met him after the Medium Paradise reunion? Oh yeah,

850
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: I met him like a Demi's Paradise reunion. I was

851
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: like on them back. Oh yeah, I've pictures of him

852
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: and he's in the sweater and I'm like, that is

853
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: so did Ben Higgins up that star pass down? Is

854
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: it like a good duck sweater? Just totally looks like Yeah,

855
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: he looks like me, acts like him. He sounds like him.

856
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: I felt like I was talking to him. I'm excited

857
00:46:53,600 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: that it'll be secret is double, that it'll be a

858
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: season where we like, I know he's going to get engaged,

859
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: and so I'm excited that, like, that's what we're going

860
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: to get to see at the end of this. Yes,

861
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: it's you know, we need we need a happy, happy

862
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: ending in the Bachelor franchise exactly. There's been a lot

863
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 1: of crazy endings recently. We're gonna wrap this up before

864
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: we let you go, I just want to ask everyone

865
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: at the table, what is the one thing that you

866
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: are most grateful for coming out of the Bachelor franchise.

867
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: I'll start my lovely girlfriend and moves. Yes, I am

868
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: also thankful for those dance moves. Um, I would have

869
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: to say, I am most thankful thankful for the ability

870
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: to have a second chance with my relationship with Joe,

871
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: because there was a time when it was maybe not

872
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: going to happen, and I feel like I would have

873
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: been making an incredible mistake. But no, now, knowing where

874
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: we are now, I'm so happy that I'm able to

875
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: have the experience of our relationship and to celebrate that.

876
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: I would say, just perspective on relationships and dating and

877
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: all the relationships built throughout this ranchise, producers, castmates, and

878
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: people at this table. I'm grateful for you guys, so

879
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: thank you. I agree, I have to say the people.

880
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I probably would not have met any of

881
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: you guys otherwise. And a lot of the friendships that

882
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: I've built, there are friendships that I, you know, put

883
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: effort into every day. I still talked to a lot

884
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: of the girls, and I feel like I've grown so

885
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: much because of the friendships I've made. So I'm really

886
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: grateful for the people I've met. Yeah, I would say

887
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: the people I've met and like learning about myself. I'm

888
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: really thankful because I feel that I thought I was

889
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: already self aware, and it putting the camera on you,

890
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: like you really learn to look inward and recognize where

891
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: your faults are too, And so just being able to

892
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: do that and even finding empathy with others has been

893
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: something I've been really grateful for. Yeah, It's it's so

894
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: hard to put it to one thing. Like, I truly

895
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: am grateful for the entire experience because it's changed my

896
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: life completely, Like my life is a complete one eighty

897
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: in every single way and coming into the show and

898
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: being so skeptical to coming out of it with a

899
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: marriage is it's still insane to me. So I'm just

900
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: so grateful that I did it. I was open to it,

901
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: and I'm just thankful for everything that it's brought me. Bran. Yeah,

902
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: I think the people not only on the show, but

903
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: you know, the people that this show has been able

904
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: to put me in front of after the show, I

905
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: think has been really great. The experience, of course, and

906
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: the personal growth. I would say I think everybody can

907
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: relate to that, just the personal growth, all the positive

908
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: that comes from this, and of course my lovely wife.

909
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry, I didn't mention my fiance. So grateful

910
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: for you. I took to what you were saying. You

911
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: were talking about him, Okay, but yes, give him that

912
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: shout out for sure. You guys, it has been so

913
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: much fun. Thank you so much for being a part

914
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: of the first ever Bachelor happy hour of friends giving.

915
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: Um could not have done this without you, and I'm

916
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: so glad that we're in great places, like just going

917
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: around the room and hearing the growth that everyone has

918
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: experienced because of this crazy Bachelor. You know, you call

919
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 1: it crazy, but it is really a grow, a growing

920
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: and learning process. So anyways, everybody seems to be in

921
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: such a great place, so we have to cheers to that,

922
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: Rightagno cheers to love, but just cheers to I was oh,

923
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: I was just about to say that. Cheers to life,

924
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: you guys, my guy. Oh, Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you all

925
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: for our friends for coming on Bachelor Happy Hour to

926
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: do our first ever friendsgiving. Thank you for helping Brian

927
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: and I host it today, and hopefully we can make

928
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: this an annual thing. Love to have you back. Don't

929
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: think just because you did one you're done. You can

930
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: come back Okay, And next week we will be talking

931
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: to Ari and Lauren. Can't wait to catch up with

932
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: them and see how life is with little Lessie. So

933
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: tune in next week to Bachelor Happy Hour. In the meantime,

934
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: you can get all the latest Batchelornation news on batchelnation

935
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: dot com right now. And if you have something that

936
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: you want to tell us, good, bad, whatever, We're open

937
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: to constructive criticism. You can email us at happy Hour

938
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: at bachelornation dot com or visit batchelnation dot com and

939
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: click podcast. Thank you so much guys for listening.