Speaker 1: I'm not a no Mexicans, you know, we're a foreign monster.
Speaker 1: I'm your own monster, born and raised in Chicago. And
Speaker 1: it's easy to blame people from other countries. I'm here
Speaker 1: in American cider. In order for this drug trafficking to exist,
Speaker 1: it takes complicity in all.
Speaker 2: Levels, every aspect of life.
Speaker 1: Immigrants, you know, our own people here, you know, contribute,
Speaker 1: even the agents getting you know.
Speaker 2: But I think that.
Speaker 1: Certain news media and everyone likes to blame the brown people.
Speaker 1: It's always someone else, you know, in this country. Is
Speaker 1: just the way it feels. Get to blame people.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's the.
Speaker 3: Descent and I'm Charlie Webster. This is Surviving l Chapo.
Speaker 4: The Twins who brought down a drug lord Season two.
Speaker 2: I recorded some hits in my time, but nothing. They
Speaker 2: brought down the drug kingpin.
Speaker 5: Yet, the recording that Pete Flores made in November fifteen,
Speaker 5: two thousand and eight, was the only recording the government
Speaker 5: ever had to could pinned our chapel on drug trafficking
Speaker 5: in the US.
Speaker 4: Almost exactly ten years later, Pete, known in the prison
Speaker 4: system only as PF two two seven zero one four
Speaker 4: two four, walked into a pat courtroom to testify against
Speaker 4: the man he betrayed, a man he once saw as family.
Speaker 5: It took ten years from the Flores twins surrendering to
Speaker 5: the US authorities to get our chapel in.
Speaker 2: Front of a jury.
Speaker 4: A week before Christmas twenty eighteen, Pete sat in the
Speaker 4: witness stand nervously waiting for Hackeing Guzman Luera El Chappo
Speaker 4: to walk in.
Speaker 1: Let's see that they're they're learning chap point, and my
Speaker 1: stomach is just like I can see him. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he has like a glose so dark soup
Speaker 1: kind of a red tie. He comes in and he's
Speaker 1: shaking his he'll turning his hands and everyone and he's
Speaker 1: waving to the sketch artist, you know, like I don't
Speaker 1: know why he's comfortable, and he's still not looking at me.
Speaker 2: He's just like, you know, seeing him.
Speaker 1: Really he looks very pale to me, like I've used
Speaker 1: to see him in his content.
Speaker 2: He looks pale.
Speaker 1: He has harry and he's kind of like we can't
Speaker 1: have the tenth same text airing negat It just doesn't
Speaker 1: come right to the side, you know, I can see
Speaker 1: that he just looks like funny to me, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm getting glimpses of him and he smiling, saying,
Speaker 1: hurt everybody. Then he comes and he turns wrong and
Speaker 1: he stares right at me. I looked back at him.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him and he's standing me. He looks
Speaker 1: funny to me. For that moment in my my home vision,
Speaker 1: he looked like like one of those funny digital kind
Speaker 1: of like things like where his face looked blurred to me,
Speaker 1: and I kind of like almost pil it. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: look at him again and then he just stands, keeps
Speaker 1: his chest on. He's just he's just staring at him,
Speaker 1: and he won. I turned around. I looked away, and
Speaker 1: my nerves were at the worst, like and I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's doing that on purpose, now, you know, He's just
Speaker 1: I'm trying to intimidate you. Yeah, what was going through
Speaker 1: your haste? It wasn't really just it was him and
Speaker 1: it was just everything, you know, like this is real.
Speaker 1: I'm here, This is not a bad dream, Like this
Speaker 1: is so real. And I remember I look at him.
Speaker 1: He gold and when he looks at me, he he
Speaker 1: hits his fingers like that like with his two fingers,
Speaker 1: he kind of hits the table. You know, he's just
Speaker 1: staring at me and look away again he sits dound
Speaker 1: and no matter what when every time I love, he's
Speaker 1: still staring at me.
Speaker 2: He's just staring at me the whole time. He wouldn't
Speaker 2: stop staring.
Speaker 1: So then I see the courts filling up and all
Speaker 1: the prosecutors are there, and you know it's busy, and
Speaker 1: they bring in like the the legal secretary gets the
Speaker 1: judge's clerk. That's the first time when the judge comes
Speaker 1: in and we all rise, and I remember standing up
Speaker 1: and everyone's staying at it, like everyone's just waiting for
Speaker 1: us to look at each other, you know, to kind
Speaker 1: of like see what we do our interaction. He had
Speaker 1: that same serious face on him that he has a
Speaker 1: real black stare. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 6: How did it make you feel? Especially when he went
Speaker 6: like like you tell you, like, what do you think?
Speaker 7: That? Was?
Speaker 2: Crossed my mind? Like what the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I got to a point where I started getting
Speaker 1: little fusher the way I felt like, man, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm past this, you know, scary, like I can't
Speaker 1: tell you like scared, like I'm not like I was
Speaker 1: scared of him alone.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, like, but everything he represents, yea, and everything
Speaker 6: that party is.
Speaker 2: A little bit big.
Speaker 1: But really I think that it was internal of what
Speaker 1: I did, you know, what I was a part of
Speaker 1: what I turned my back on and it seems to
Speaker 1: be in my face again and the worst possible way,
Speaker 1: and thinking like, yeah, man, like you.
Speaker 2: One day night, you probably do some horrific things if
Speaker 2: you had to change.
Speaker 6: Did you feel guilty?
Speaker 2: Guilty?
Speaker 6: Mm, get guilty about the fact that you couperate against him.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel good being there, But he wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: feel sorry for me, you know. If he had the chance,
Speaker 1: he would have killed me or like, he would have
Speaker 1: done worse things.
Speaker 2: That's the truth. That's not justifying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, but it was so ugly and
Speaker 1: just to be in that court room, be in a situation.
Speaker 1: And if you would have told me that that thing,
Speaker 1: you could do it a year more, an avoided two
Speaker 1: years and more to avoid it. I would have foosen
Speaker 1: to do two more years and avoid that, yeah, or
Speaker 1: maybe longer. Who knows that you would My wife would
Speaker 1: have probably killed me. Should have belinked you about it,
Speaker 1: you know, But they just they stays with me like
Speaker 1: I'm still like reliving in it being me like ugly feeling.
Speaker 1: I remember the courtroom, like starting the judge comes in,
Speaker 1: we all stand. Let me take an old lease, state
Speaker 1: your name and spell that. You know, the court I
Speaker 1: felt like I was gonna ps two two seven zero
Speaker 1: one fortune for it. You gotta remember how to spell
Speaker 1: your name again. And you know, having my the prosecutor
Speaker 1: beginning his question and kind of introduction.
Speaker 2: Of who I had, and I'm answering your questions.
Speaker 1: But not taking them all the way in, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it's kind of like I'm still
Speaker 1: having recovered from the this feeling of them just staring
Speaker 1: at you, just staring at you down stop and part
Speaker 1: comfortable with that, you know, when they admiring he was wanting,
Speaker 1: but when they're just staring at.
Speaker 6: You, judging you, and you're like, is it hard to
Speaker 6: know why to put your own eyes?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look around, I'm looking at I'm trying not
Speaker 1: to stare at you know, nothing you know and everything
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, but it's hard not to.
Speaker 1: And then looking over Chap he's still staring at you.
Speaker 1: And then he's whispering to the laws, you know, beside him,
Speaker 1: and I can see the translators facing him, and I
Speaker 1: can see her talking to him. Everything I'm saying, she's translating,
Speaker 1: you know, the questioning begins, and I never get completely comfortable,
Speaker 1: and I'm nervous because I'm saying, like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: nervous already, and I'm speaking a kind of to a
Speaker 1: person I've talked with before, and I'm saying the man,
Speaker 1: and who's the man, and like chapel, yeah, because we
Speaker 1: were used to call him senor.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you were saying the man the man to
Speaker 6: to people like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, my brother, and I wouldn't say that caravel,
Speaker 1: you know then, you know, you know, oh yeah, like
Speaker 1: with respect. You know. A couple of times I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm messing up a little bit because I'm nervous, and
Speaker 1: a couple of times, I mean kind of the prosecutor
Speaker 1: kind of messes up his question a little bit.
Speaker 2: And it's not boutique. Everything we went through was like
Speaker 2: out the window.
Speaker 1: So when I talk about things like my crimes and
Speaker 1: me testifying and cooperating gainst you know, so many people,
Speaker 1: and that was hard. I was embarrassed because we were
Speaker 1: talking about the crimes that committed again in my world.
Speaker 1: You know, they praise you for the bad stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know eyes of very regular people.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 1: And you're telling your stories to these people or judging you,
Speaker 1: and it's it's a lot of emotions you deal with,
Speaker 1: you know. I try to tell my story like as
Speaker 1: normal as I could, bet but it's not normal, and
Speaker 1: just answer the question and move on the conversations of
Speaker 1: you know, how he started and my dad and all
Speaker 1: that comes up, and the kind of stays with you know,
Speaker 1: thinking of those things while he's staring at me. And
Speaker 1: it was like, I'll comforble, you know, think you know,
Speaker 1: the threat to thinking what he's thinking of his mind,
Speaker 1: who knows, you know, but it seemed like he was
Speaker 1: entertained telling a story. And we had a lot of
Speaker 1: like times where everyone just laughs because you're telling the
Speaker 1: story you're confused with the meaning and stuff was you know,
Speaker 1: they tell me the keys, where'd you where were the keys?
Speaker 2: Like in the back of the land.
Speaker 1: That no, that's the king the car keys, Oh those
Speaker 1: keyters like you know, laughing, you know, the stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, it was like at the moment, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to describe a situation as best as I could, and
Speaker 1: the whole time he's staying at me. One of the
Speaker 1: weirdest things that I felt while I was out there,
Speaker 1: and besides the nervousness and I wanted to throw up
Speaker 1: right there, was that the prosecutor pulled out of evidence
Speaker 1: back and he holds it up with both hands.
Speaker 2: Do you see this? And it's much like evidence, and
Speaker 2: he's holding it up for the whole courtroom to see.
Speaker 1: The prosecutor is holding it up and and he's like
Speaker 1: permission to approach the witness he called it. He puts
Speaker 1: the scissors on my right in front of him. He
Speaker 1: grabs the cisor back and he cuts the envelope open
Speaker 1: and I could see it's like a plastic bag and
Speaker 1: some cellophane or something wrapped up, and he's going through
Speaker 1: the bag and he goes out.
Speaker 2: A phone and he's like here.
Speaker 1: He hands it to me, and after all, in years
Speaker 1: or not, I like a phone in my he gives
Speaker 1: me a phone Because that little moment, I'm lost, like
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the phone like, wow, I wonder if
Speaker 1: I could call Avian on it.
Speaker 2: But it's the phone that that chap called me. Then
Speaker 2: I had probleb with me.
Speaker 1: And it's like I couldn't get over that, like that
Speaker 1: I'm holding this phone again, you know after so long.
Speaker 2: That was just like shocking to me. And the things
Speaker 2: like that phone signed even.
Speaker 1: Stright ten years and he's like, can you turn it on? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so it's not gonna work. It be the end
Speaker 1: of a ten years then. But they have all put
Speaker 1: up on the screen. They have the the call list
Speaker 1: and all that, and I remember I would always put
Speaker 1: me like thore my own number on the phone, just
Speaker 1: okase that needed it, and I had stored signor I
Speaker 1: put Sennora as a contact on the number you called me.
Speaker 1: And then the call log and they went just randomly
Speaker 1: went through some numbers and the like who's you know,
Speaker 1: there's another call, there's a call on this day? Do
Speaker 1: you can you tell me the date? And like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the day. And they're like, what's the number three one, two, five,
Speaker 1: eight eight, two three hundred? Can you play to the court,
Speaker 1: like bout that number? Did you recognize them?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, and what is it? I'm like, it's the number,
Speaker 2: it's the number for Empire Carpeting Fiday day two three
Speaker 2: hundred Empire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to explain that when I would set
Speaker 1: up these phones, like new phone burning phones that would
Speaker 1: just to check the phone make sure they're working like internationally,
Speaker 1: that I would call Empire carpeting.
Speaker 2: I don't care what time it was. I just called.
Speaker 8: Empire calls there your knife.
Speaker 1: And as soon as I heard the Empire's carpeting whatever,
Speaker 1: a little recording and all my numbers would that I
Speaker 1: set up would have this three and two eight two
Speaker 1: three hundred, and they all laughed.
Speaker 9: You know, So what did that tell you when you
Speaker 9: did that? I told you that the frame works. So
Speaker 9: every time you call that number of different perm Yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Phone, the phone was working properly and I could give
Speaker 2: it away to someone. And and that was the phone
Speaker 2: that the chapel called me, and I recorded the conversation with.
Speaker 8: H.
Speaker 1: I think that that that was like towards the end
Speaker 1: of that of the evening, like it was getting late
Speaker 1: and we're going to bring till the next day, and
Speaker 1: I was just like exhausted and tired of being nervous
Speaker 1: and sick and everything.
Speaker 2: I remember when we get up, I don't even turn
Speaker 2: around just the open door. I just walk up, go
Speaker 2: back to the.
Speaker 1: Jerry room, and my prosecutor comes in, like, you're doing great,
Speaker 1: You're doing great, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: You know tomorrow will continue.
Speaker 1: We should finish up by tomorrow sometime in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna start early.
Speaker 2: So by the time I get back to the isn't
Speaker 2: that evening?
Speaker 1: Like everyone knows that. Just Bro, we see you on TV.
Speaker 1: You testified, blah blah blah. Yeah, allow the news and
Speaker 1: don't local news and what was your own reaction. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about it. I just want to
Speaker 1: call my family, my kills and check on the meal
Speaker 1: and try to get some sleep.
Speaker 2: I remember the next thing, it was just even a
Speaker 2: little more nervous iking thinking that and eventually we're gonna
Speaker 2: come to cross examination, you know, yeah, expecting the word
Speaker 2: from me, Like, if it's hard to do it with
Speaker 2: the people that you've gotten comfortable with, can I imagine
Speaker 2: doing it with people who are there to attack you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking to my head like, regardless of what
Speaker 1: anyone says, I mean, you could say whatever you want
Speaker 1: about me, and I'm not I enjoy I made mistakes
Speaker 1: and the baby A Bentley, the billboard and all those things,
Speaker 1: and and I was in trouble while I was in prison,
Speaker 1: did no different things. And that's his voice on that recording.
Speaker 1: There was a massive amount of the drug season by
Speaker 1: the government money. And you can't get away from that.
Speaker 1: You know. It's hard to like to tell, you know,
Speaker 1: a recording that it's lying. I would be like, they
Speaker 1: don't even need me. They just prescially play on that recording.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: So we go back the next day, same routine, you know,
Speaker 1: and same nerves. Nothing got easier. A lot of people
Speaker 1: man just packed. Everyone just in there, you know. And
Speaker 1: those days I went wife was in a quirtum. There's
Speaker 1: only turn today. His wife was in a quareum. We
Speaker 1: kind of finish off, like some of my testimony for
Speaker 1: the governmently they placed some tas.
Speaker 2: Of course we get to the tips a yeah, so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, because they're telling you, like, what does it
Speaker 1: mean when you said this to him and said that Tom,
Speaker 1: and you're explaining.
Speaker 4: Tom Pete had to explain to an anonymous Durry exactly
Speaker 4: what the discussion on the tapes meant and how he
Speaker 4: had to lie to El Chapo to keep.
Speaker 3: Him on the phone.
Speaker 4: The call was the smoking gun, the evidence that demonstrated
Speaker 4: El Chappo's connection to the supply of drugs coming into
Speaker 4: the US.
Speaker 3: Pete had to lie about the quality of.
Speaker 4: A shipment of heroin he'd received, saying it was a
Speaker 4: bad batch, so that El Chapo wouldn't be suspicious about
Speaker 4: why Pete was asking for more.
Speaker 7: So soon imagine if.
Speaker 2: How you.
Speaker 1: He goes she was a.
Speaker 2: Girl thinking, so I had a like, explained to the girl.
Speaker 1: I already picked him up, but I wanted to tell
Speaker 1: you that I wanted to renegotiate the practice. It was
Speaker 1: weird because I already had them on mind possession.
Speaker 7: You know, Okay, just get them, yeah, wins, don't care.
Speaker 2: But he was open to it, you know. And I
Speaker 2: had a light and explained him that.
Speaker 1: I had received very poor quality killed the heroine and
Speaker 1: doubt his were super good. In reality, all the heroines
Speaker 1: we picked up was over ninety pure.
Speaker 2: And he hurted me out. And I remember.
Speaker 1: Discussing with him that not only those twenty kilos of
Speaker 1: here when I had already picked up but telling him, look,
Speaker 1: if you could send me like forty a month, that
Speaker 1: would work fine. And I need some right now, do
Speaker 1: you have something? He's like, Look, I don't have some
Speaker 1: right now, but next week got gimmt it. And me
Speaker 1: having to say, well, I was lying to him. It
Speaker 1: just gave him to talk about it right in front
Speaker 1: of his face was not easy. I felt sh like wrong,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying I did. I felt like
Speaker 1: sh shitty about it.
Speaker 6: Was he still staring at you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was staring at me the whole time.
Speaker 1: I could see him like mo moving his lips around.
Speaker 1: He never stopped staring at me. Her Glass speak to
Speaker 1: his attorneys and the without taking his gaze off of me.
Speaker 1: He didn't win any star contest. And for maybe they've
Speaker 1: bellion cancers and you want you want again, I'm playing
Speaker 1: with my kids sometimes. Yeah, And you know that was
Speaker 1: hard going to that whole conversation explaining and then only
Speaker 1: that was I was wondering what he was thinking, what
Speaker 1: he was feeling about that.
Speaker 4: Assistant US Attorney Adam Fels led Pete's questioning, then turned
Speaker 4: him over to the defense to be cross examined. Jay's
Speaker 4: ex attorney, Jeffrey Littman, was not allowed to cross examine
Speaker 4: Pete because of the conflict of interest, so Instead, another
Speaker 4: of El Chapo's three man defense teams stepped up, William Papora.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. I'm like, okay, this is the rule.
Speaker 1: This is now, we're really getting into this. His defense
Speaker 1: was that I somehow altered and take myself. I remember
Speaker 1: feel like you should give Chape the money back. You
Speaker 1: knew this was coming for years, and that's how you
Speaker 1: could have said.
Speaker 2: You've claimed me.
Speaker 1: Back to Rolling Stone interview that Ruins magazine interview with Champagne, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Metro it if the voice is sounded exactly alike,
Speaker 1: I'm mgnon.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was a weak argument.
Speaker 4: The focus of El Chapo's defense was that it wasn't
Speaker 4: El Chapo's voice on the recording that Pete made, and
Speaker 4: that there was a conspiracy against him. Everyone else was corrupt,
Speaker 4: including US drug agents and even two Mexican presidents. His
Speaker 4: defense claimed that El Mayo was the actual boss of
Speaker 4: the Cineloa cartel and had overseen operations for the last
Speaker 4: two decades, and that actually El Chapo was a nobody
Speaker 4: with a second grade education and for years had just
Speaker 4: been used as escapegoats.
Speaker 1: The argument that travel was in the real boss, that's
Speaker 1: dressing anything. It's Mario Sambala. I'm trying to explain something.
Speaker 1: I believe that they're both the Roal boss and that
Speaker 1: they ran the organization with my brother and I did
Speaker 1: that whatever it was they benefited. Both was and whether
Speaker 1: you talk to my brother, you talk to me, it
Speaker 1: was the same thing. And that's why I view both individuals,
Speaker 1: you know, and explain that like my brother and I
Speaker 1: were like part of the business part of this, you know,
Speaker 1: this car told there's different tiers of different you know,
Speaker 1: positionship people, and not everyone's a soldier and not everyone
Speaker 1: was a boss. I'm trying to explain that to the jury.
Speaker 4: The defense was throwing everything they could at Pete, even
Speaker 4: questioning him about the deal he got for his cooperation.
Speaker 4: They specifically brought up the fact that it's part of
Speaker 4: his cooperation, his wife, Viv received an immunity deal, which
Speaker 4: meant that she couldn't be charged for anything relating to
Speaker 4: her husband's criminal activity.
Speaker 2: I'm quite it probably my wife and immunity, like your
Speaker 2: wife was in charge. No, she wasn't. She was given
Speaker 2: immunity because she wasn't charged for a reason.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: We we have the debate out.
Speaker 1: I don't think that anybody would come in to cooperate
Speaker 1: and not protect her own family at.
Speaker 4: First, and they brought up one of the three bees,
Speaker 4: the baby, and how Viv became pregnant while Pete was
Speaker 4: in prison.
Speaker 1: When he started trying to bring up the pregnancy things,
Speaker 1: everyone laughed like, like you should so, like how long.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it wasn't long, I promise you. Everyone's laughing.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a man in prison with a chance
Speaker 1: to go and be with his wife. How many little things,
Speaker 1: you know, like that they would bring up that felt
Speaker 1: had no relevance to helping the case, you know, But
Speaker 1: I guess he has to try something. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of tension, like you've seen something. They feel like
Speaker 1: I was the only one that testified against them, but
Speaker 1: there's fourteen of us. One of the guys testified that
Speaker 1: he had one hundred and forty people killed, and he
Speaker 1: had sold like a million kilo's cocaine and had a
Speaker 1: fortune like fifteen billion dollars. Ultimately, all I had to
Speaker 1: do is just go in there and tell the truth.
Speaker 1: Testified for two long days. I remember the last thing
Speaker 1: walking and the doors closed where I leave, and they're
Speaker 1: like everyone that came up. And Shavel gets up and
Speaker 1: me and him are standing across from each other at
Speaker 1: this time. We're both just looking at each other and
Speaker 1: he's looking at me. I'm staying at him back, just
Speaker 1: looking at him, and he's looking at me, and we
Speaker 1: both kind of turned around at the same time. He
Speaker 1: worked out that door and I worked out this door.
Speaker 1: We go back and I, you know, get to speak
Speaker 1: with the prosecutor real quick. He said, you did great, man,
Speaker 1: and wish your best luck. And I'm seeing it kind
Speaker 1: of helped me. It's like that, well the times right well,
Speaker 1: and he kept his word. He wrote a letter thing
Speaker 1: that he felt that they should give me the two
Speaker 1: years off.
Speaker 4: Adam Fels, the lead prosecutor, wrote that letter to Judge
Speaker 4: Ruben Castillo, requesting a sentence reduction for the twins because
Speaker 4: of how great they'd be as cooperators. US attorneys Adam Fels,
Speaker 4: Thomas Shakeshaft, and Michael Ferrara had been with the twins
Speaker 4: from the beginning, often spending more time with Jay and
Speaker 4: Pete over the past decade than their own family, and
Speaker 4: all advocated for the shorter recommendation of the twins sentence.
Speaker 3: The sentencing reduction was denied.
Speaker 4: Pete didn't get any further benefit for testifying in court
Speaker 4: against El Chapo.
Speaker 1: Leaving there and just thinking I'm glad, I God throw
Speaker 1: it if I did the right thing, and thinking like that,
Speaker 1: I thought it was behind me, and it's.
Speaker 6: Like, hey, did you feel like it was done?
Speaker 1: Then you know, it's like you sell something for a
Speaker 1: price and then you got to keep coming back in
Speaker 1: pain somewhere. It's not easy, man, This wasn't an easy
Speaker 1: situation with my brother and I and for our family.
Speaker 1: It's took a humong as hmongers tons and the price
Speaker 1: rep is huge.
Speaker 6: How un did chapoget I.
Speaker 2: Think our life sentence plus thirty years?
Speaker 4: The trial against El Chapo lasted three months. He was
Speaker 4: sentenced on July seventeenth, twenty nineteen, to life in prison
Speaker 4: plus thirty years, and was ordered to pay twelve point
Speaker 4: six billion dollars in forfeiture. It took thirty one different
Speaker 4: agencies worldwide to take l Chapo down. He's now in
Speaker 4: ADX Florence Administrative Maximum Penitentiary known as Supermax in Colorado.
Speaker 4: Supermax has been described by its own ex warden as
Speaker 4: worse than death The prison is designed to keep every
Speaker 4: inmate in near total solitary confinement.
Speaker 3: You shower and eat in your cell. Meals are slid
Speaker 3: through small holes, so.
Speaker 4: You have no contact with anyone and you only get
Speaker 4: one fifteen minute phone call a month. Inmates have been
Speaker 4: diagnosed with insanity while being incarcerated there. It's considered escape proof.
Speaker 4: No one has ever escaped. While he may not get
Speaker 4: to meet them, El Chapo shares a prism with some
Speaker 4: of the worst of the worst criminals, the Boston Marathon bomber,
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Olympics bomber, the World Trade Center bomber, and
Speaker 4: the co founder of al Qaeda, an advisor to Bin
Speaker 4: Laden even Dodor Death resides there. On the fifth of
Speaker 4: January twenty twenty two, El Chappo appealed for release or
Speaker 4: a retrial, stating he had denied the right to a
Speaker 4: fair trial an alleged Dura misconduct. A year later, he
Speaker 4: sent an SOS appeal to the Mexican President andres Manuel
Speaker 4: Lopez Obrador for release back to Mexico on humanitarian grounds
Speaker 4: due to the alleged psychological torment he's suffering. With El
Speaker 4: Chapo's trial done, the Flores Twins only had two years
Speaker 4: left in prison, but there was one completely unexpected challenge
Speaker 4: about to hit.
Speaker 8: The latest on COVID nineteen virus. The updates on our
Speaker 8: response to the COVID nineteen pandemic.
Speaker 10: Things are moving very very quickly.
Speaker 2: When it comes to the coronavirus, the coronavirus outbreak. Coronavirus
Speaker 2: is a critical governmental situation.
Speaker 8: It's a public health crisis.
Speaker 1: The Federal Prison Bureau is reporting which facilities have, how
Speaker 1: many coronavirus cases and the death set those facilities.
Speaker 8: Nearly four hundred and fifty inmates currently have confirmed positive
Speaker 8: lab for COVID. Sadly, there have been fifteen COVID nineteen
Speaker 8: related and make deaths.
Speaker 10: I was so thankful for not being's sake, for being
Speaker 10: held to most of my time in prison, and for
Speaker 10: me to get to that point in Queen Sick, especially
Speaker 10: during COVID just made everything even harder.
Speaker 2: And Jay almost inside in prison. You know, he spent
Speaker 2: fifty six days in the hospital. He had three surgeries.
Speaker 3: Surviving l Chapo The Twins Who Brought Down a Drug Lord.
Speaker 4: Season two is hosted by Curtis fifty cent Jackson and
Speaker 4: me Charlie Webster. Produced by myself and Jackson mcclennan. Assistant
Speaker 4: producer and research support by Kasey Hurtz, Edit and sound
Speaker 4: design by Nico Polella.
Speaker 3: Theme music and original score by Ryan Sorenson.
Speaker 4: It's executive produced by Curtis fifty cent Jackson and me
Speaker 4: Charlie Webster. Curtis fifty cent Jackson presents a Lionsgate Sound
Speaker 4: and G Unit audio production exclusively for iHeart podcasts, Never
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