Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hi guys, welcome back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how's everyone doing?
Speaker 3: Still recovering from Thanksgiving? Not gonna lie?
Speaker 1: Yeah you had a house ful?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: We have a house mess and then but yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I kind of always have a house full, just
Speaker 3: because we have a big family. We didn't host the
Speaker 3: big event.
Speaker 2: We just oh you didn't. No, you went to someone
Speaker 2: else's home.
Speaker 3: We generally host Christmas and my sister in law host Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: So still and Cortney, you drove, We drove, drove.
Speaker 1: My son passed his driving test on Monday and we
Speaker 1: left Tuesday, so we drove up to northern California and
Speaker 1: he drove the first three hours.
Speaker 2: How did he do?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 3: Just right up that five freeway, it's a nice straight line.
Speaker 1: He did the grape vine. He did absolutely great. I
Speaker 1: was just sitting there my lap covered in dogs, chatting away,
Speaker 1: and then it was my tre and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping that he would love it
Speaker 1: so much that he would want to try the whole way,
Speaker 1: but no, I had to take my turn. But it
Speaker 1: was great. We stayed at Cavola Point, which is gorgeous.
Speaker 1: You know that it used to be for Baker just
Speaker 1: over the bridge in Saucelito. They're super dog friendly, so
Speaker 1: we brought the dogs and had such a great And
Speaker 1: it still.
Speaker 3: Feels like homped me up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you grew up up there too, right, daf.
Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I grew up in Berkeley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we looked at UC Berkeley. We went and
Speaker 1: walked through really Berkeley. We walked around Stamford. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I used to skateboard and run around there. My dad
Speaker 2: was going to school there, so we kind of like
Speaker 2: were two kids running around. It was our backyard all over,
Speaker 2: going up the camp and neely, just sneaking into lecture halls,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff you do as a kid.
Speaker 1: It was fun. Yeah, my mom used to live there,
Speaker 1: so we lived in Male Valley. My mom used to
Speaker 1: live in Berkeley. So many men, right, I'm always surprised.
Speaker 1: We went to Stanford Shopping Center to meet my step
Speaker 1: mom for lunch, and it's so different, Like I couldn't
Speaker 1: even recognize where we used to go. The whole parking
Speaker 1: lot is stores now. It seems like the only mall
Speaker 1: that's still thriving a lot of development. The bigger going.
Speaker 3: Back to where your childhood was or where your memories where,
Speaker 3: and everything's changed.
Speaker 2: It's so bizarre.
Speaker 3: I definitely have that out of body, like I don't
Speaker 3: recognize it feeling when I go back home. Have you
Speaker 3: guys been back to Santa Clarita since we shot in
Speaker 3: Santa Clarita. Well, we drove through twice and it's but like,
Speaker 3: have you tried to like find your way around. We
Speaker 3: used to drive to the sets like on autopilot. We
Speaker 3: knew our way so well. We drove there all the time.
Speaker 2: And built up a lot of those warehouse built up
Speaker 2: all those warehouses. Like back when we were shooting Melrose,
Speaker 2: we were the only really ones. I mean there were
Speaker 2: some on I forget that street, but yeah, they've built
Speaker 2: up a lot of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just found it like, oh, just it doesn't
Speaker 3: seem like I should be not able to recognize it,
Speaker 3: but it just feels so different and new.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that Marie calendar is still there. I
Speaker 1: been for tuna salad.
Speaker 3: All right, we had a research research.
Speaker 1: God, I know, wouldn't that be sweet? Now, Daphne, what
Speaker 1: did you do?
Speaker 2: I went to Texas. I went to Dallas. My brother
Speaker 2: married a lovely woman from Dallas, so we were there
Speaker 2: with her family. We had a roast turkey and a
Speaker 2: fried turkey, because you do that in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I guess, Wow, how was it?
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't need me. I don't need turkeys.
Speaker 2: The mom made sherry, made peacampi and all kinds of candies,
Speaker 2: like just she made them, you know, bars and like
Speaker 2: caramel and all this stuff. Was like there's lots of
Speaker 2: forms of sugar that I never knew about. Amazing, amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was really fun. It was very different. It was
Speaker 2: really great.
Speaker 1: My cousin made sweet potatoes and there was like an
Speaker 1: inch of sweet potatoes and then maybe two inches then
Speaker 1: the equal amount of brown sugar, butter and pecans. Wow,
Speaker 1: like I'm pretending this is a vegetable and it's the
Speaker 1: best one I've had in my entire life. Like the
Speaker 1: offer is pie, and I was like, what pie could
Speaker 1: be better than the sweet potatoes?
Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, it's really true.
Speaker 3: Well, I do feel like it's like the season for it,
Speaker 3: and I do feel like I'm still recovering from everything
Speaker 3: I over ate on Thanksgiving. But I rolled right into
Speaker 3: Christmas season already, I'm like, oh, you know, my god,
Speaker 3: game on.
Speaker 2: It's literally like baking. And the day all the Turkey
Speaker 2: designs came down and I helped Lindsay put up all
Speaker 2: the Christmas and you know, all over Christmas trees and
Speaker 2: Barkley things, and I'm like, well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on is Christmas.
Speaker 1: Mine's already up. I put mine up three weeks ago.
Speaker 1: But I did put out like the little trees and
Speaker 1: the other decor. And then I had a dinner party
Speaker 1: last night and everybody brought me out, just pointing it
Speaker 1: out again without you, and I did realize that I
Speaker 1: would hear about it, but but you mentioned it any
Speaker 1: do it. I mentioned it anyway because they brought me
Speaker 1: points stadi Is and it was so lovely. So we
Speaker 1: will get something on the books so that next time
Speaker 1: I mention it and you guys then mention it, actually.
Speaker 2: We'll say, yeah, it was so great.
Speaker 3: All right. So on that note, we have another recapped today,
Speaker 3: our Reach episode sixteen, Episode sixteen.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this, Daphne and I both make
Speaker 1: out with someone in this episode, just just putting that
Speaker 1: out there, getting the interest up.
Speaker 3: It happens it is really sex in this show. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think right about now, So if this episode was
Speaker 3: airing November eighteenth and nineteen ninety two, I think I
Speaker 3: was actually filming my first episodes as Sydney in November
Speaker 3: of nineteen ninety two, So right around now, I was
Speaker 3: probably filming Wow. And the only reason I sort of
Speaker 3: remember this well because Sydney's gona appear in a episodes,
Speaker 3: But so I remembered that after I was done with
Speaker 3: my two episodes, I was like giving a Christmas gift
Speaker 3: or a Christmas something to Josie and and like I
Speaker 3: was just I think I was probably baking at that time,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, do my little Christmas stuff.
Speaker 3: But I feel like I it was right before the
Speaker 3: Holidays that I was doing these two episodes anyway, So
Speaker 3: while you guys are having fun making out and being
Speaker 3: on the show, I was like, you know, hiking.
Speaker 2: Out and fighting. It's like, we're gonna see this, but this,
Speaker 2: this like most gorgeous guy is after me, and all
Speaker 2: I do is yell at him and push him away
Speaker 2: and like a million different forms, like every time he
Speaker 2: makes an offering, I'm like, yeah, no, I mean I
Speaker 2: just can't I'm like, I hope she like gives in soon.
Speaker 1: Now you know how I feel with Billy?
Speaker 2: I know, do you not have eyes?
Speaker 1: I felt exact same way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe's kind of a tough nut.
Speaker 1: Us be a female fantasy that these gorgeous guys that
Speaker 1: were like, no, no, no, because our audience was primarily female,
Speaker 1: it must be these gorgeous guys guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And by the way, first you turned down another gorgeous
Speaker 1: guy before you turn down, right, Jake. So let's get
Speaker 1: to the episode.
Speaker 3: All right, So episode sixteen. The title of this one
Speaker 3: is The Whole Truth. This is directed by Charles Braverman,
Speaker 3: and it opens in Alison and Billy's apartment at night.
Speaker 3: Billy walks out of his bedroom and tells Alison that
Speaker 3: he's headed to Shooters for night out, and seeing as
Speaker 3: he's dressed in a sport coat with something like a
Speaker 3: Hawaiian print shirt underneath, it looks like he's really ready
Speaker 3: for good night out, and he tells Alison he doesn't
Speaker 3: want her to come along because he's planning to hopefully,
Speaker 3: you know, pick up a girl. So she all right
Speaker 3: jokingly calls him Fido. He barks, and he leaves, but
Speaker 3: not before Alison sniffs him and teases him that he
Speaker 3: has sent it himself for his night out in something
Speaker 3: called love Spice.
Speaker 1: Do you think that was an actual cologne name where
Speaker 1: I was naming it?
Speaker 2: I think the writers might.
Speaker 1: I think it was a very bad, I mean, very
Speaker 1: imaginary smell. But you know, Andrew is like, so I
Speaker 1: bark like a dog and I smell bad.
Speaker 3: He's like, bye, going out anyway, I got this.
Speaker 1: Exactly like this handsome.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so funny how these writers create Andrew's
Speaker 2: shoe to be like this duft is at times like
Speaker 2: this puppy dog, little kid. And all the women were
Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, Andrew, I'm crazy for him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he tells Alison don't wait up, and when
Speaker 3: the door closes behind him, he sneakily retrieves a bottle
Speaker 3: of champagne and two glasses hidden in the bushes right
Speaker 3: outside his apartment door. He takes those items straight upstairs
Speaker 3: to Joe's apartment and knocks on the door. She answers,
Speaker 3: and Billy asks Joe if she's interested in a little
Speaker 3: champagne and conversation, and then she says her. He's like,
Speaker 3: oh what and uh, he ignores that. But anyway, and
Speaker 3: you know, do you want to hang out? And she says, no, Bill,
Speaker 3: I was planning to do nothing tonight. And he's like, well,
Speaker 3: let's do it together. Let's do nothing together.
Speaker 2: He and I love how she keeps calling him billious
Speaker 2: so we all know him as Billy and it's like Bill.
Speaker 2: And then later she calls Michael Mike. Thanks Mike.
Speaker 3: She's got her own thing going on.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: And so he says, let's do nothing together and justice
Speaker 3: now some other time Bill and closes the door in
Speaker 3: his face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that, Daphne. You never say who is it? Or
Speaker 1: look through the people. You just didn't notice that your door.
Speaker 1: You did not I noticed it. I'm like, you just
Speaker 1: swing your door open to anybody who know.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so funny.
Speaker 1: I remind woman with a frightening pass just opens her door.
Speaker 2: I know. And if she's really from a frightening past,
Speaker 2: she should have like like nine locks on the inside
Speaker 2: of the door, right like every movie you see in
Speaker 2: New York City, they all have like all these locks. Well,
Speaker 2: she gets in trouble with a lot of guys, she
Speaker 2: should have had locks on that door at.
Speaker 1: Least say who is it? That would be nice.
Speaker 3: So then we cut too from there shooters that night,
Speaker 3: where Jake and Billy are drinking that bottle of champagne together.
Speaker 3: Billy has decided to drink it with Jake instead, and
Speaker 3: Jake tells Billy his line to Joe about doing nothing
Speaker 3: together was really lame, and then he tells Jake that
Speaker 3: he's giving up on Joe, and he warns Jake that women.
Speaker 2: Like that will never ever give.
Speaker 3: You a chance, and Jake sniffs the air and says, well,
Speaker 3: maybe Joe turned you down because of that.
Speaker 1: After Shape, I think Billy's having trouble taking responsibility. Women
Speaker 1: like that won't give anyone a chance.
Speaker 3: Not me, not you, Jake, don't even think about it,
Speaker 3: because what do you have going for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I stink, But what do you have going for Yeah?
Speaker 2: What do you have? And don't count the six pack
Speaker 2: because I have one too.
Speaker 3: So then we cut to Michael and Jane's apartment. They
Speaker 3: are kissing in bed and the phone rings. Jean answers it,
Speaker 3: and after a brief conversation, she hangs up and tells
Speaker 3: Michael that she no longer has a job. That was
Speaker 3: her ex boss, telling her that the clothing shop has
Speaker 3: been sold and that Jane should come by in the
Speaker 3: morning and pick up her personal stuff.
Speaker 1: Interesting way to shoot it. Right, they're naked in bed.
Speaker 1: They're clearly either they've just had sex or they're about
Speaker 1: to have sex, and she gets fired. I thought that's
Speaker 1: an interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: She could be making coffee and get the call and
Speaker 1: they said.
Speaker 2: Now, maybe there was like an editorial direction, like, remember,
Speaker 2: we're spicing up this damn show, so I want them
Speaker 2: to start naked in bed and right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like it could be like a random, you know,
Speaker 2: call or something, but it's like, let's start her in
Speaker 2: bed or end them in bed.
Speaker 1: Maybe there was a scene before this and they cut it.
Speaker 3: And it's also I think maybe a pre to what
Speaker 3: their storyline is going to be, where they're having conversations
Speaker 3: about trying to have a baby and trying to get
Speaker 3: pregnant again and like that. It does seem to be
Speaker 3: a theme in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: You're always Then we're back with Alison and Billy in
Speaker 3: their apartment in the morning. Billy's in the kitchen. He's
Speaker 3: looking for aspirin in the cupboard and Allison comes in
Speaker 3: the kitchen dressed for work, tells Billy he looks miserable.
Speaker 3: He tells her it's his tooth acting up again, and
Speaker 3: she says, you know, you should see a dentist now
Speaker 3: it'll go away. He says, but is it swollen, and
Speaker 3: Allison says, yeah, maybe it is. He should make an
Speaker 3: appointment with doctor Estrin, who's the best dentist in La.
Speaker 1: She says, such a sweet scene. I think it's such
Speaker 1: a sweet scene. And all I thought was, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can tell we're dating because I realized sweet way, I'm like, Alison,
Speaker 1: hanced yourself.
Speaker 2: You say to him. Allison says to Billy, you look
Speaker 2: like a mess. But what she really meant to say
Speaker 2: is she was adorable.
Speaker 1: You're adorable.
Speaker 2: Because he was adorable.
Speaker 3: So yeah, she's taking good care of him and getting
Speaker 3: him a doctor's appointment. And he ends up saying, going,
Speaker 3: thanks mom, of course, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2: She has the best done just in the city. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then we got to the courtyard. During the day,
Speaker 3: Joe is lying on the ground taking photos of Jake's
Speaker 3: motorcycle for her portfolio. Jake walks up and jokes that
Speaker 3: he charges two dollars a shot and Joe tells Jake
Speaker 3: he has a beautiful bike, especially from the pipes up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did a nice little crane shot or something.
Speaker 2: Did you notice that when I come up, I'm lying
Speaker 2: down on the ground that I come up and I
Speaker 2: go it comes up, especially from the pipes side.
Speaker 1: I feel like you were doing that a lot. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's something you laying down to get a
Speaker 1: shot on the show. Don't you feel like because I
Speaker 1: saw that, I was like.
Speaker 2: That or like climbing a ladder. It was always so
Speaker 2: difficult for her to get an angle.
Speaker 3: How do we make this interesting? Let's put Joe somewhere
Speaker 3: on the ground or upside that oily bike.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they put a bag. I felt like
Speaker 1: that bag was there to rest your head on. You
Speaker 1: think probably donore you know all the track.
Speaker 2: I probably rabbed it. They probably had nothing for me.
Speaker 2: And you know, you're always when you're the one lying
Speaker 2: down in the dirt or something. I've done tons of
Speaker 2: like you know, Lifetime movies, and they're always like you're
Speaker 2: running around the dark and I'm just like, could I
Speaker 2: get a little padding please? I know I'm about to
Speaker 2: blow him away or we're gonna have a fight.
Speaker 1: But and so you find I don't have to be
Speaker 1: uncomfortable while I'm killing him.
Speaker 3: And that career is pretty filthy, like yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: everybody walks through it, and yeah, I know instruction and yeah.
Speaker 1: Didn't you think this is spicy? You were spiky? Yeah,
Speaker 1: full of double on taundres.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, And that's that she's starting to play with him,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so she like gets she says something
Speaker 2: double on tundra like especially from the pipes up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then and then he goes, you want to go
Speaker 2: for a ride and she's like no, she.
Speaker 3: Says, yeah, he asked, do you want to go for
Speaker 3: a ride, and she says she was planning on doing
Speaker 3: nothing today. So Jake takes that opportunity to suggest they
Speaker 3: do nothing together. And then that sort of is that
Speaker 3: cute smile between him.
Speaker 2: Because it's like, oh, it worked for him and then
Speaker 2: the other gorgeous guy in the bed.
Speaker 3: So then because we got to the street out on
Speaker 3: the motorcycle, Joe and Jaker sharing, Joe is loving it
Speaker 3: and Jake warns her watch out, you could swallow a
Speaker 3: bug and uh. Then they pull over to the side
Speaker 3: of the mountain road overlooking a rocky ravine and Jake
Speaker 3: asks Joe where she learned to ride?
Speaker 1: Like that, do you think for a second that Jake
Speaker 1: would let a woman drive his motorcycle. I mean, I
Speaker 1: liked it, but I thought, wow, that seemed out of character. Also,
Speaker 1: seems were super tight.
Speaker 3: And she was in the front like she was riding
Speaker 3: and he was behind she instead of Yeah, So that
Speaker 3: was surprising that the first time we see them on
Speaker 3: the bike together, well.
Speaker 2: Wasn't they doing it? Like were his arms around on
Speaker 2: the handles as well? I felt like he was like
Speaker 2: like trice like bike like training a child or something.
Speaker 2: I mean, like he wasn't just on the back. But
Speaker 2: maybe I felt.
Speaker 3: Like I have to look at like later later year,
Speaker 3: behind him and he's he's riding, he's steering. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: it seemed like if you're in front, I mean, you
Speaker 3: tell me you're you're the one who had a motorcycle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but if you're in front, it seems like you're you're
Speaker 3: in control, like you're yeah, you're responsible sort of.
Speaker 2: But I think the way we got to look at
Speaker 2: this again because the way that he was, I feel
Speaker 2: like he was in control because I could be sitting
Speaker 2: on the long seat and then put my legs up
Speaker 2: on the there's the you know, little I don't know
Speaker 2: he could have somehow like a father would do with
Speaker 2: the child. But I have to look at it again
Speaker 2: because it would be very weird to put me on
Speaker 2: in front if she wasn't right.
Speaker 3: She doesn't really were, But he says, where'd you learn
Speaker 3: to write like that? And she goes prison joking, and
Speaker 3: then he says, I.
Speaker 1: Went one second, Daphne, where did you learn to write
Speaker 1: a motorcycle? Did you know how to ride a motorcycle?
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is yeah. I was gonna share all this.
Speaker 2: So this starting to ride on the show got me interested,
Speaker 2: and Grant and I on the weekends, I would go
Speaker 2: with him and ride on the back, so he would
Speaker 2: I would ride with him with who else went? The
Speaker 2: Teamsters and Tony went. We had a bunch of us,
Speaker 2: sometimes maybe Greg Lacova or makeup guy, but we would
Speaker 2: go for these rides. Later, remember Jerry, she got a bike,
Speaker 2: but I loved it. But I was like, I want
Speaker 2: my own bike. So I went to Pasadena City College,
Speaker 2: took a weekend motorcycle safety course, got my own little
Speaker 2: sportster Harley and had the handlebars, got the high handlebars,
Speaker 2: added some chrome, and then I would go out and
Speaker 2: we'd all go up, but i'd have my own bike.
Speaker 3: But I got interested.
Speaker 2: On this show, so I didn't do it before, and
Speaker 2: I really just loved it. I just loved it. I
Speaker 2: had it for years because when Laura came on the
Speaker 2: show and then later she would go on with us
Speaker 2: with Grant, and it was really it was really fun
Speaker 2: and it was something that bled into my real life.
Speaker 1: And I would just like to point out, as you
Speaker 1: guys are talking about high, I haven't had you over dinner.
Speaker 1: Never even knew about these rides. Apparently everybody okay, busted. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Jake and Joe are looking out at the very
Speaker 3: desolate view and they both share that they like to
Speaker 3: be alone, and Joe reveals that when she was young,
Speaker 3: she spent a lot of time alone and learned to
Speaker 3: love it. He says he wants to show her a
Speaker 3: cool part of the road up ahead, but Joe says
Speaker 3: she has an interview at Wilsher and hunt for a
Speaker 3: photo assistant job. Jake says he'll take her there. I
Speaker 3: just want to point out the dynamic once again. The
Speaker 3: last scene he says oh, and and she says, no,
Speaker 3: I don't want to do and then turns up day
Speaker 3: takes her for a ride and she goes, oh, I
Speaker 3: want to you know, I want to take you off
Speaker 3: for a beautiful another beautiful ride, and she goes, no,
Speaker 3: I I God something meeting so and but he keeps
Speaker 3: this whole episode, you know, yeah, And then he tries
Speaker 3: and things get even worse.
Speaker 2: So mine heart to get Jesus, I was never like
Speaker 2: that in real life.
Speaker 1: But I.
Speaker 3: Move in.
Speaker 2: Here's frush so funny.
Speaker 1: We're acting your pants off all right, backing your pants
Speaker 1: on right.
Speaker 3: And the lawyer tells Matt that the Halfway House is
Speaker 3: offering his job back, but they're not offering anything else.
Speaker 3: She says the Halfway House won't admit that they have
Speaker 3: fired Matt because he's gay, and they won't discuss a
Speaker 3: monetary settlement, and Matt feels like that sends the message
Speaker 3: that he was imagining the whole thing. He does admit
Speaker 3: that he misses the Halfway House and he thinks about
Speaker 3: the people there every day, not to mention the Burgerstan
Speaker 3: job is getting kind of old. His lawyer says she
Speaker 3: thinks that Matt should reject this offer and force the
Speaker 3: Halfway House to do the right thing. And so Matt
Speaker 3: agree telling his lawyer reject the offer, and I am
Speaker 3: up for the fight, he says, which is very.
Speaker 1: Doug So I like that this happened, Like he's like, no,
Speaker 1: this is the right thing to do. I'm doing the
Speaker 1: right thing.
Speaker 2: And they know they have a strong case.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then we cut to the fashion work room during
Speaker 3: the day, where Jane has gone by the to pick
Speaker 3: up her things and the new designer, Kay Beacon played
Speaker 3: by Sidney has.
Speaker 1: Been in everything tough as nails in.
Speaker 2: This Oh she's I mean that's putting it nicely. She's horrible.
Speaker 3: She was poopooing everything she sees and Kay gives Jane
Speaker 3: a backhanded compliment on her dress and tells and Jane
Speaker 3: tells Kate, oh, I design all my own dresses, and
Speaker 3: another backhanded sort of cases everything about Jane's dress is
Speaker 3: actually knockoff of her designs, but it's okay. Everyone does
Speaker 3: it and imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and
Speaker 3: it comes on really strong, and she says to Jane, well,
Speaker 3: at least you used my ideas in a smart way.
Speaker 3: See immediately sort of annoyed. But then Kay turns around
Speaker 3: and asks, Jane, do you think you could do better
Speaker 3: if you used my new ideas under my supervision? And
Speaker 3: because I guess k Beekont is some hot shot designer,
Speaker 3: Jane is intrigued, and Hay tells her to come by
Speaker 3: the studio in the morning at nine. So long, Jane, Mancy,
Speaker 3: you see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jane is so nice and you're just going like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's being treated so like crap by this woman. But
Speaker 2: she takes the job and she, you know, obviously.
Speaker 3: Sees it as an opportunity, but like, wow, this is
Speaker 3: going to be a challenge to work with this personality.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope it's getting better. But that's why there's
Speaker 1: been so much abuse in creative industries, right, because we're
Speaker 1: so desperate for a shot that people on the top
Speaker 1: have been allowed to behave very badly. I think it's
Speaker 1: turning a little bit like there has been a shift.
Speaker 1: But we've been called though on our set, but we've
Speaker 1: all been on sets where people were allowed to behave
Speaker 1: very very badly. But every everybody wants to be in
Speaker 1: the industry so badly that they put up here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, plus there. It kind of goes along with this
Speaker 2: narrative that you know, the genius, Oh we can't you know,
Speaker 2: he's moody or she's just like that, or there are
Speaker 2: two when as if that's supposed to be an excuse.
Speaker 1: There were so many producers in our day who would
Speaker 1: throw things and yell and scream, and they were famous
Speaker 1: for being awful, and it was sort of like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're so awful, and I think now there's finally been
Speaker 1: a comeuppance and that doesn't fly anymore.
Speaker 2: Not ex cell phones cell phones.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, that's true.
Speaker 3: So we go for pumpkin pie once at somebody, you
Speaker 3: threw a pumpkin pie, like out of anger, out of behavior?
Speaker 2: Oh please, that's a whole other podcast. Are you waiting?
Speaker 2: Me threw a pumpkin pie? But I was such a
Speaker 2: moron that I didn't. It wasn't baked, it was raw.
Speaker 2: It was a tofu pumpkin pie, so it was all
Speaker 2: full of the sloppy orange tofu and I just threw it,
Speaker 2: hit the wall, dented it and it slid down orange
Speaker 2: and I'm like my boyfriend at the time goes, you
Speaker 2: might want to bake it first. Its time because that's
Speaker 2: gonna be a mess.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, little bad behavior from daff
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nice ended up in his orange stain on
Speaker 3: your own wall.
Speaker 2: Maybe you guys should keep the bumpers on my crib
Speaker 2: over here when I start to go off in the
Speaker 2: future and I really want to expose everything, Okay, but
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. All right, So Jake and Joe, we
Speaker 3: cut to their on the bike. They're arriving at Joe's destination.
Speaker 3: She gets off the bike, thanks Jake for the ride
Speaker 3: and turns him down when he offers to wait until
Speaker 3: she's done, because he says, you know, I'll wait and
Speaker 3: then I'll take you for the best tacos in town afterwards.
Speaker 3: No thanks, she says, turning him down one more time.
Speaker 3: Enough culture shock for one day. I'll take a cab.
Speaker 3: So she heads into a pond chop where Joe hands
Speaker 3: over a bracelet, asking to the appraiser how much she
Speaker 3: can get for it. Salesman inspects the bracelet says he
Speaker 3: will offer full market value of seven thousand dollars. She
Speaker 3: says it was worth more, but he says this is
Speaker 3: what happens. So he asks for a photo. I d
Speaker 3: Joe tells him that she searches in her purse. I
Speaker 3: forgot my wallet in the car, but he's not having it,
Speaker 3: so Joe has to leave the store without getting that money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she paid twelve. She said she paid twelve four
Speaker 2: years ago. And I'm just saying this because there's another
Speaker 2: scene coming up at a pawnshop and you just see
Speaker 2: the numbers. So he says seven.
Speaker 1: She's like no, and I just looked up because I
Speaker 1: don't know why this fascinates me. But in today's dollars,
Speaker 1: that would be sixteen, nine hundred and six dollars in twenty.
Speaker 3: Sixteen, which sixteen seven seven. It was fourteen back then,
Speaker 3: all right, so that's twelve a lot from a pawn
Speaker 3: shop too. It seems like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That didn't look like it didn't look like a pawn shop.
Speaker 1: I thought it looked like a jeweler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first one was a jeweler.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a jeweler.
Speaker 2: It goes into a pawnshop next. But they all play
Speaker 2: that numbers game, you know, they go low, you go high,
Speaker 2: and you're supposed to meet in the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's always so sad to sell jewelry. It's
Speaker 1: so much. It's like driving a car off the lot,
Speaker 1: like this second you buy it, it drops in value
Speaker 1: so bad, so much Yeah, appreciation.
Speaker 3: H So she's counting on that money, but she does
Speaker 3: not have an ID to get it.
Speaker 1: She's fluffling, Oh no, I left it. So we know
Speaker 1: something's going on with the ID right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there looks like she's not exactly in possession of
Speaker 3: an idea or something, but we're not really sure she's getting.
Speaker 2: What she says is well, I when I go to
Speaker 2: the bank, I'll bring it back. Like she is used
Speaker 2: to making up stories and covering. Do you notice that,
Speaker 2: like she's it just comes out so naturally, which says
Speaker 2: a lot about Joe, Like yeah, he's like, well I
Speaker 2: need idea, Well, I'll bring it when I come back
Speaker 2: from the bank. You know, she just makes up these stories.
Speaker 2: It's very natural to her.
Speaker 3: She goes out to find that Jake is sitting on
Speaker 3: his motorcycle outside the shop waiting for her, And Joe
Speaker 3: comes out and sees Jake sitting there, and she's like,
Speaker 3: are you following me? She's kind of pissed, and Jake says, hey,
Speaker 3: I thought you were looking for a photography job just says, well,
Speaker 3: that's none of your business, and if you want to
Speaker 3: know something about me, she just ask and Jake offers
Speaker 3: to bring her home on his motorcycle, and Joe refuses,
Speaker 3: saying no, I'll find my own way home.
Speaker 2: One of those guys three rejections now, she said, yes,
Speaker 2: I'll take you up on that.
Speaker 1: I think are we at three or four?
Speaker 2: Let's call this fourth. I think it's kind.
Speaker 3: Of every time.
Speaker 1: So sure the scenes recounting rejections.
Speaker 2: Of yeah, let's get on that.
Speaker 3: He keeps coming back.
Speaker 1: I know that's what I'm saying. I think it's a
Speaker 1: female fantasy that this guy's.
Speaker 2: So she says, no, I'll find my own way home,
Speaker 2: like you know.
Speaker 3: So then we cut to Jane and Michael's apartment at night.
Speaker 3: Michael is porn champagne to toast Jane's new career opportunity
Speaker 3: is a junior design associate to K Beacon, the hot shot,
Speaker 3: and then he says, wait, who's k Beacon and Jane
Speaker 3: explains that Kay Beacon is one of the hottest names
Speaker 3: in fashion and everyone including her, knocks off K's designs,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: Wonder if they paid attention, if they got feedback about
Speaker 1: stuff we talked about about. She's always like this beautiful
Speaker 1: woman is always trying to get his attention. Because such
Speaker 1: a turnaround in this episode. Right when he's paying attention
Speaker 1: to her, she's getting busy and he's following her. It
Speaker 1: was such a nice change.
Speaker 3: Well, it's sort of the story right that she's having
Speaker 3: this career moment that she's really going after. It looks
Speaker 3: like it's going to be a challenging career moment for her,
Speaker 3: but she's like sort of determined to do it. And
Speaker 3: but Michael, you're right, is like really supportive and loving
Speaker 3: all throughout. He's like, hey, I'm thrilled for you, and
Speaker 3: they toast to her new job, and he's he just
Speaker 3: seems to be really supportive.
Speaker 2: And Michael still hasn't made that turn that character one eighty,
Speaker 2: you know, which he will be for years to come,
Speaker 2: but not fully No, uh huh, he's not there yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's super sweet and attentive in this which is nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a feeling that turn is very near around.
Speaker 1: Right around the corner, right.
Speaker 3: Around the corner. So then we're back in Joe's apartment
Speaker 3: during the day, Alison and Joe are eating pizza over
Speaker 3: the bathroom sink, just a little bit more painting setting.
Speaker 2: We're turning it into it.
Speaker 3: At the beginning, you can't even tell that they're painting.
Speaker 3: They're just eating the pizza in the bathroom, right, I thought.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's her dark room.
Speaker 1: It's going to be dark, and so we deal right
Speaker 1: through us. We want to eat it right here in
Speaker 1: the bathroom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just opens up like we've decided pizza
Speaker 3: and we couldn't wait, and so here we are.
Speaker 1: Because pineapple, pepperoni and goat cheese. You can't trust that
Speaker 1: that's not good.
Speaker 3: There's something special about that. Allison's ordered it.
Speaker 1: I want to know whose idea was it.
Speaker 3: I don't know this was enjoying.
Speaker 2: It, you guys. Wasn't this era? Maybe it was a
Speaker 2: few years later, that whole kind of California gourmet pizzas,
Speaker 2: remember like Rolfame Pucks. So maybe Rugola and go California.
Speaker 1: I don't think that just started.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think that's what this was, but that
Speaker 2: was this era, you know.
Speaker 1: No, I think you're right, got cheese, remember go Cheese big?
Speaker 3: You know, Rugula, all kinds of just discovering that and
Speaker 3: they thought the bathroom, that's a perfect place to eat
Speaker 3: this fancy pizza. But and it's not quite clear what
Speaker 3: they're doing yet in the bathroom, but they are having
Speaker 3: a conversation where Alison asks Joe, Hey, where did you
Speaker 3: meet your ex husband, the one you never talk about?
Speaker 3: And Joe says, sort of dismissively, matter of factly that
Speaker 3: they met while she was in college New York doing
Speaker 3: a project at the end of subject and then Alison, uh,
Speaker 3: she basically tells Alison, you know, interrogation over.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the way she says it is take the light
Speaker 3: out of my eyes and put the rubber hose away.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, a lot. I guess she has been
Speaker 2: in jail.
Speaker 3: Just in just did say just no more questions.
Speaker 1: But I love this friendship. Don't you love this friendship? Back?
Speaker 2: Like I've forgotten it? Court to tell you the truth?
Speaker 2: Did you had so much to.
Speaker 1: Both of us, we forgot it.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm going to reject this hot guy.
Speaker 2: You're going to reject the hot guy you're living with.
Speaker 2: Let's be Beth days too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like fast friendship, Like I really it's
Speaker 3: very sweet, it's very cute. And it's like, imagine moving
Speaker 3: into a new apartment complex and like finding a great
Speaker 3: friend that you hang out with and eat pizza in
Speaker 3: the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, right away, I don't have anybody eat pizza
Speaker 1: in the bathroom with.
Speaker 2: I mean, my apartment isn't even unpacked yet.
Speaker 3: So Allison goes on to ask Joe about her job hunt.
Speaker 3: Joe says it was total wash out, and Alison is sympathetic,
Speaker 3: saying she wishes she had a talent like photography, and
Speaker 3: then Joe shares that her mom was the one who
Speaker 3: taught her photography and that they had been very close,
Speaker 3: and Joe abruptly ends that subject. When Allison asks if
Speaker 3: Joe's mom is still back east, she just says yep.
Speaker 3: And then the subject of the painting comes up. Allison
Speaker 3: comments she surprised Michael let Joe paint the bathroom especially black,
Speaker 3: and Joe starts to apply black paint to the walls
Speaker 3: and windows. Joe jokes, well, didn't I tell you that
Speaker 3: I slept with them? Alison believes it for a second
Speaker 3: before realizing that Joe was joking, and they laughed together
Speaker 3: and finished painting the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Aha.
Speaker 1: The fact that I looked the By the way, I
Speaker 1: had to hold that shocked expression for about five minutes.
Speaker 3: Because they want to make sure how slow is Alison?
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm just realizing. I'm just realizing she may
Speaker 2: have said that because he's married and you just told
Speaker 2: us the show before you left a married man. Do
Speaker 2: you think she was like chiding him, like her like saying, oh,
Speaker 2: did I tell you I slept with him? Or is
Speaker 2: that just me going oh, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: No, I think you're just joking like you got you
Speaker 1: can paint, like.
Speaker 3: That's the way you got what you wanted.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just saying, all right, married, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Layers I like it.
Speaker 2: Thirty years later, they're so useful. These layers were added.
Speaker 3: And then, speaking of Michael, we cut to the courtyard
Speaker 3: where he is cleaning the pool, lamenting to Billy that
Speaker 3: he doesn't get days off, and the new tenant is
Speaker 3: leaving her paint cans in the trash, and Ronda makes
Speaker 3: her really only appearance in this episode walks Now.
Speaker 1: Where was she?
Speaker 3: She was just here for this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's always hard when you're in the background
Speaker 2: and you have to time it for your entrance to
Speaker 2: the scene, you know, because I saw her back there
Speaker 2: and then you know, you just have to come in.
Speaker 2: But she's no, I heard all that. But can we
Speaker 2: just talk about how big and baggy Michael's shirt and
Speaker 2: Billy's pants, Like they had so much fabric in the
Speaker 2: nineties and they just made these everything. Just go back
Speaker 2: and look at it again. His T shirt is hanging
Speaker 2: down to his knees, Michael's and then Billy's pants are
Speaker 2: like zoot suit kind of. I don't know it was.
Speaker 2: I just love that about this show. I'm going, wow,
Speaker 2: so different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew just didn't care. It's like whatever they put
Speaker 1: in his room he would just put on. So sometimes
Speaker 1: it went around. I remember, I think last week he
Speaker 1: had the pink pants on.
Speaker 2: Well in the overalls with no shirt.
Speaker 3: I think that made no opinion about it.
Speaker 2: Take the case, don't forget the overalls with no shirt.
Speaker 2: L Oh my god. That was that just creeped me out.
Speaker 3: But then Ronda walks In started defending Joe, saying, well,
Speaker 3: at least maybe she's just cleaning up a few earth
Speaker 3: cracks in the paint, and Michael says, well, yeah, she's
Speaker 3: using black paint, guys, to which Billy responds, at last
Speaker 3: a little diversity around here. As Ronda exits the scene,
Speaker 3: it's like, what what did just look at him like
Speaker 3: you will never get it, will Yeah? She's like, this
Speaker 3: doesn't even like warrant a line in response, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and I'm out, dumb white boy, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gone, and so they h They all turned. As a
Speaker 3: woman is walking down the stairs, Michael notices she's a
Speaker 3: locksmith and asks which apartment were you working in, but
Speaker 3: before she can answer, because obviously she wasn't being paid
Speaker 3: to action, that's extra yeah, Joe appears at the top
Speaker 3: of the stairs and tells Michael that the locksmith was
Speaker 3: changing her lock. My lock, she says. Michael runs up
Speaker 3: and says, well, as the manager, I'll need a duplicate key,
Speaker 3: and just as no, no, you won't, and Michael races
Speaker 3: up the stairs to her door and saying wait, wait,
Speaker 3: let's let's not get off on the wrong foot here.
Speaker 3: He then mentions the black paint, saying, I realize it's
Speaker 3: probably for your dark room. I know you're a photographer,
Speaker 3: but we should you know, maybe discuss these things first.
Speaker 3: Just says okay, Mike. As soon as it came Mike,
Speaker 3: we'll discuss it, okay.
Speaker 2: Mike, Okay, Mike, you go back to Bill and you
Speaker 2: guys clean the pool and get back to you.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to remember this, but of course that's true, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've lived in California for so long ago,
Speaker 1: like as many apartments as New York. But did they
Speaker 1: always see key?
Speaker 2: You never the super has a key, The super always
Speaker 2: has a master key room.
Speaker 1: I lived in those big, huge, like Oakwood complexes when
Speaker 1: I lived in apartments here, and of course they all
Speaker 1: had master keys. But you didn't think about.
Speaker 3: It well, and you and you're not really allowed to
Speaker 3: repaint without asking first. So he's Michael saying reasonable things, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: and he's.
Speaker 1: Trying to be inside. You can't paint the inside.
Speaker 3: Well think, I mean, I think there's like a I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: It depends on the building. I'm sure it depends on
Speaker 2: the rules. But black.
Speaker 3: He is trying to be reasonable and just saying, hey,
Speaker 3: I get it, but maybe just let's discuss it first,
Speaker 3: and she is just not.
Speaker 2: Think about it. If I'm just putting this together. She
Speaker 2: wants black paint, and she's locking and changing the locks.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's big for a little apartment building there,
Speaker 2: you know, to like, what is she doing in there?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it's his responsibility if
Speaker 2: she sets the place all fire, So it's you know,
Speaker 2: she's pushing the boundaries there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so before every week, Michael reminds her, you know,
Speaker 3: you'll just need to get me a copy of the key,
Speaker 3: or else you'll have to consider living elsewhere. And she says,
Speaker 3: all right, I'll get you a copy and closes the
Speaker 3: door in his space. Yeah, not getting it right now, clearly, No, No,
Speaker 3: they're bossy pants, that Joe right now. So then we
Speaker 3: cut to the fashion work room where Jane is there
Speaker 3: inspecting clothing and Kay corrects Jane's work, telling her that
Speaker 3: she's doing things all wrong. She missed this, she missed
Speaker 3: that the sleeve pleat is crooked. Everything needs to be perfect.
Speaker 2: Kay says.
Speaker 3: Jane says, okay, I understand, and Kay scoffs at her
Speaker 3: and sort of sarcastically says, oh, because you're a designer too,
Speaker 3: totally condescending, and Kay says Jane needs this job and
Speaker 3: Jane's should study every move that k makes and maybe,
Speaker 3: just maybe someday Jane will be successful. Then She turns
Speaker 3: around and offers Jane anything she wants to wear from
Speaker 3: last year's line in the back of the store, and
Speaker 3: Jane's banks like totally whiplash. And then Ka tells an
Speaker 3: off camera Moira to show Jane how to inspect the clothes,
Speaker 3: show her again, show her the k Beacon weigh and
Speaker 3: she walks off.
Speaker 1: Now is this set in Malibu where the surfboard shop.
Speaker 2: Is so big? It could be? Yeah, it looked familiar. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: look like that.
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of ho went You saw the
Speaker 3: exterior establishing shot? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Of that?
Speaker 3: Is that why you're asking Court?
Speaker 1: I just remember it. I got it all just now
Speaker 1: as we were talking, when I just had a flash
Speaker 1: of thinking it was that that I must have had
Speaker 1: a scene there because thinking it was there, there's a
Speaker 1: establishing shot.
Speaker 3: Is it that there's a Malibu Yeah, there was a
Speaker 3: Malibu set that served as this shop.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the reason I know that is because when Sydney arrives,
Speaker 3: she has some scenes in there and right mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 3: and that building is still there. I believe it is
Speaker 3: something else entirely. I don't know what it is. But anyway,
Speaker 3: so we go from here to Bikini Burger, where Matt
Speaker 3: is delivering food to a table at his waiter job
Speaker 3: and he accidentally spills food on a customer. The customer
Speaker 3: hops out of his seat but immediately recognizes Matt, and
Speaker 3: Matt realizes this kid in a shirt and tie is
Speaker 3: Pete from the Halfway House.
Speaker 1: Pete tells Matt Pete in the Halfway House scene, we saw.
Speaker 2: Or I think it, so I didn't.
Speaker 3: It was just saying that, yeah, that Matt knew him
Speaker 3: and from there, but he wasn't there.
Speaker 2: He was so cute and a funny laugh and everything yep.
Speaker 3: And he tells Matt that he's now in sales, and
Speaker 3: Matt notes that Pete still has the same goofy laugh.
Speaker 3: He asks Matt how everyone is doing at the house,
Speaker 3: and Matt covers and says everyone is fine, and Pete
Speaker 3: tells Matt how their talks really helped him, and Matt
Speaker 3: tells him he's proud of him for staying clean and
Speaker 3: staying away from drugs, and Pete asks, Hey, what are
Speaker 3: you doing here Bikini Burger and Matt again covers and
Speaker 3: says it's just for extra money, and he tells Pete
Speaker 3: to keep up the good work. So this scene is
Speaker 3: really Matt covering and not telling Pete the whole story,
Speaker 3: but it's again like reminding him how much he's sort
Speaker 3: of miss is the work.
Speaker 1: He loves the kids there, and how much he impacted
Speaker 1: the kids.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: So then we're back at Joe's apartment during the day Jake.
Speaker 3: Joe is showing Jake her dark room slash bathroom, and
Speaker 3: she apologizes to him for how she acted in the morning.
Speaker 3: Joe complains that Michael's being so uptight, but she says,
Speaker 3: you know, I know, I'm a bitch, and then.
Speaker 1: She told this line. I wrote it down and liked
Speaker 1: it so much. Yeah, you're right, I'm a bitch. I
Speaker 1: need a favor.
Speaker 3: Yea loves straight from I'm a Bitch.
Speaker 1: I was a loane. I was watching it while I
Speaker 1: was working out. I just kept saying it. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: I'm a bitch, and I need a favor. I want
Speaker 1: to say that.
Speaker 2: I love I didn't even pause.
Speaker 1: I love so much for her. She yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, Jake says, all right, Well, do you have something
Speaker 3: to drink besides water? Joe offers him a beer. He
Speaker 3: takes one, and Joe tells Jake her favorite. She needs
Speaker 3: to sell a bracelet, but she can't because she doesn't
Speaker 3: have a photo I D. Joe says she's flat broke
Speaker 3: and not used to that experience and asks Jake if
Speaker 3: he'll help. Jake asks Joe, well, why didn't you have
Speaker 3: a driver's license? And Joe says, well, who drives in
Speaker 3: New York So then he offers to maybe loaner a
Speaker 3: couple bucks. She rolls her eyes and says, all right,
Speaker 3: come on, we help me. Yes or no?
Speaker 1: Because she's an adult person going through life without a
Speaker 1: photo ID. You know, we're just gonna go with it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So, well, don't have that in New York.
Speaker 1: City because you have an ID. The other I have
Speaker 1: a license, but you can't cash it walking it. At
Speaker 1: the time, for the kids at home, a check was
Speaker 1: a piece of paper. We wrote money now.
Speaker 3: And you needed an ID, and we used to put
Speaker 3: it in the mail with a stamp on it in
Speaker 3: and all these.
Speaker 1: Days and you'll know this, they don't even want cash,
Speaker 1: like I'll give you like a cat. Jack went on
Speaker 1: a trip with his class and I handed him cash.
Speaker 1: You just looked at me, like, just take it, because
Speaker 1: I need to know you have it, and he's like,
Speaker 1: what would I possibly.
Speaker 3: Where do I even put his?
Speaker 2: Venmo?
Speaker 1: Do you do with cat?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What is this weird thing? Yeah, it's just gonna appen
Speaker 1: back and have a credit card. He's going to give
Speaker 1: it away. He's going to hand it to somebody along
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: Funny.
Speaker 3: So, speaking of cash, we cut to the pawn shop
Speaker 3: where Jake is. There different pawn shop and an appraiser
Speaker 3: is telling Jake that the bracelet is worth four thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: but it'll give him forty five hundred. Jake says he
Speaker 3: knows the bracelet cost over ten thousand, but it's worth
Speaker 3: eight thousand, so he'll take seven. He gives him the
Speaker 3: number he wanted to get for Joe. The appraiser tells
Speaker 3: Jake he's wrong, so Jake picks up the bracelet starts
Speaker 3: to walk away, and the appraiser says, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 3: all right and agrees to pay him seven. So Jake
Speaker 3: brings out his ID and the appraiser asks who's Beth,
Speaker 3: and Jake has no idea what he's talking about. An
Speaker 3: appraiser mentions that Beth is engraved on the back of
Speaker 3: this bracelet, so Jake explained, stole it from Beth. He's
Speaker 3: selling it for a friend, but the appraiser says, I
Speaker 3: can't do this transaction because.
Speaker 2: This bracelet is stolen. Who's Beth?
Speaker 3: Who's Beth?
Speaker 1: Which is so funny based on an engraving, right, I
Speaker 1: know he's on it. This is a very honest pom broker.
Speaker 2: But he didn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't have an answer like you know that, huh.
Speaker 3: I don't even know that it's on there. He didn't
Speaker 3: even know that, yeah, was there. So he walks outside
Speaker 3: where Joe is sitting on Jake's motorcycle waiting for him
Speaker 3: to come back out, and she's disappointed to see that
Speaker 3: the bracelet is still in Jake's hand. He hasn't managed
Speaker 3: to get the seven thousand dollars, so Jake asks Joe
Speaker 3: who's Beth, and asks Joe if the bracelet is stolen.
Speaker 3: Joe is offended but doesn't answer the question, and Jake says,
Speaker 3: I hate being used. Worse, I hate being lied to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, vainly finally mad, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And this is all being filmed down by the Santa
Speaker 2: Monica Pier. It's Palisades Park, which a lot of them
Speaker 2: all on Santa Monica.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, which we know there's not a pawn
Speaker 3: shop right across the street like they are, right, So
Speaker 3: they've done the pawn chop scene on one day and
Speaker 3: in the sixter year scene that supposedly.
Speaker 1: Happened, probably did Kay Beacon and Malibu right, probably, and
Speaker 1: did this one right up the Yeah, yeah, it's right
Speaker 1: on the beach where she's hanging out.
Speaker 2: Just because it's beautiful. It's a beautiful place to film.
Speaker 2: That's a great shot. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: So but Jake is pissed. He says he doesn't like
Speaker 3: being lied to and Joe. Joe gets sort of defensive
Speaker 3: and says, why should I answer your questions if you're
Speaker 3: not going to believe the answer, And he says, try me.
Speaker 3: And Joseah's to Jake that she's sick of everyone's questions
Speaker 3: and you should just mind your own business. And Jake
Speaker 3: is pissed and a half he gets on his motorcycle
Speaker 3: and he drives away, leaving Joe alone in the park
Speaker 3: with her helmet in her hand and her really cute
Speaker 3: bob haircut.
Speaker 1: And she her haircuts gorgeous. But this broke my heart
Speaker 1: when you started crying.
Speaker 3: Starts to cry and the camera pulls all because it's
Speaker 3: all her facade, her lies, her stories are just coming,
Speaker 3: you know, apart vulnerability.
Speaker 1: It was really sweet.
Speaker 3: And her anger didn't really surf her here, push pushed
Speaker 3: him away.
Speaker 1: Finally she's like, wait, that's the word. The fifth time
Speaker 1: he leaves went he rejected him five times?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and each yeah, each time is asking for more
Speaker 2: and not telling him enough. And what comes up This
Speaker 2: next montage is so cool. It's this jazzy kind of
Speaker 2: we haven't really seen that, I mean, very kind of jazzy,
Speaker 2: you know montage with I don't know if it looked
Speaker 2: aged or what, you know, handheld vision, you know, pictures
Speaker 2: of Melos Avenue. Yeah, kind of yeah, kind of.
Speaker 3: Felt old more old just because of the tone of
Speaker 3: the music and stuff.
Speaker 2: Pianos and they feel like a director's choice. It just
Speaker 2: felt like that direct I thought of the director like
Speaker 2: he probably because I uh, we don't see that often.
Speaker 2: You see a little bit of the taste of that
Speaker 2: in the beginning and the credits, but this was very
Speaker 2: cool and kind of lasting.
Speaker 3: Styley kind of over all those stores on Melrose, including
Speaker 3: Johnny Rockets, the Burger Place. But then we go from
Speaker 3: there and it lands shooters the exterior, and then we
Speaker 3: pushed in and Jake and Billy again are shooters having beers.
Speaker 3: Jake is telling Billy that Joe is trouble and I
Speaker 3: don't trust her, and Billy says, you know, Jake, you
Speaker 3: should keep your distance from Joe, and jake advice is Billy, well,
Speaker 3: you should do the same. You should stay away. No, no,
Speaker 3: you you really should stay away. No, no, but you
Speaker 3: should know you should not even try and Billy Billy's
Speaker 3: works about that and tells Jake that he thinks that
Speaker 3: Joe got under his skin, and Jake says no, and
Speaker 3: Billy gives him a knowing smile. Yeah, I think she
Speaker 3: kind of did. Jane and Michael at their apartment at night,
Speaker 3: Jane and Michael are eating dinner at their coffee table
Speaker 3: on the floor in the living room and Jane tells
Speaker 3: Michael that Kay is manipulative, arrogant and she's humiliated Jane
Speaker 3: at work and then she turned around and sent Jane
Speaker 3: home with a free outfit. And Kay is totally meaning
Speaker 3: to everyone, and Michael cuts her off.
Speaker 2: And says, hey, can we stop talking about Kay Beacon.
Speaker 3: And he then starts to rub Jane's neck, telling her
Speaker 3: she's sexy and she should relax, and they start kissing,
Speaker 3: and from there, Jane gets up and says, hey, give
Speaker 3: me give me a sec she leaves the room.
Speaker 1: Didn't you in that moment though, like you know, we've
Speaker 1: all had that moment before. Didn't you want to say,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you something like did you want to say,
Speaker 1: like a wander to go, don't give me a massage
Speaker 1: right now. I'm trying to I need to do it
Speaker 1: up my day. I need to vent, Like give me
Speaker 1: a minute. Yeah, I was a but no, sweet lovely
Speaker 1: Jane's like, oh, all right, I guess we're doing this.
Speaker 2: I guess we're doing this. Don't get my Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we we follow her into the bathroom and
Speaker 3: where she's getting her birth control and Jans Michael huge.
Speaker 1: Diaphragm Chrit's very laned up on the in the foreground
Speaker 1: nine by eleven diaphragm case.
Speaker 3: And Michael shows up in the door.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a blast of the past.
Speaker 2: It's such a movie. Also, it's such a movie or
Speaker 2: t TV that shot through the medicine cabinet, like the
Speaker 2: camera's here and you know, so it's behind and that
Speaker 2: that diaphragm sitting.
Speaker 1: Right up with both hands because it's so bitt this
Speaker 1: huge thing.
Speaker 3: But in case the audience didn't understand what it was,
Speaker 3: Michael shows up in the door. We're saying, hey, I
Speaker 3: thought we agreed about trying to get pregnant again, and
Speaker 3: Jane says, yeah, but does it have to be tonight?
Speaker 3: And Michael says, well, is this change of heart about
Speaker 3: your new job now that you've got great job? And
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, our you know, conversations and
Speaker 3: our feelings about having a child has gone out the window.
Speaker 3: But Jane says, actually, she's having doubts about whether or
Speaker 3: not she wants to have a child now or anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Which I was all alone in my room going yeah,
Speaker 1: because I love that she's finally getting her voice and saying.
Speaker 3: Seeing what she's thinking and feeling.
Speaker 1: Yes, saying what she's thinking and feeling with him. I
Speaker 1: love it. And he's suddenly in the position of he
Speaker 1: has time, he has days off of work, which he
Speaker 1: never does, and he's listening to her and trying to
Speaker 1: get her attention. I was so happy to see this shift.
Speaker 2: Yes, she says, it's kind of like being a young doctor.
Speaker 2: He's like, you're always at work, you know, Oh, your
Speaker 2: boss taking all your time. And also now he's like,
Speaker 2: I thought you want a child. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: reverse and it's kind of like Michael just not getting
Speaker 2: what he wants. But we'll move on.
Speaker 3: And it's only for a second. And it's only for
Speaker 3: a second.
Speaker 2: I know what I clocked it.
Speaker 3: It's for this episode, Michael. Don't get used to this.
Speaker 2: Everything changes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we cut to Jake's apartment in the morning.
Speaker 3: There's a knock at the door. The police are knocking
Speaker 3: on Jake's door, asking if he owns a sixty eight
Speaker 3: Triumph and if he loaned it to anyone. He's no,
Speaker 3: he knows he didn't. But then Joe appears right behind
Speaker 3: the cops of the door, saying, of course he loaned
Speaker 3: it to me. Do I look like a motorcycle thief.
Speaker 2: She's all grumpy with the cop too, like she's just like,
Speaker 2: I have cars. She's just like thinking she can just
Speaker 2: lie and steal and do whatever, and everyone else is
Speaker 2: just a pain in my.
Speaker 3: Ass and they'll just go along, right, yeah, the she
Speaker 3: just go along, Yeah, And Jake defiantly tells the cops, No,
Speaker 3: I've never seen her before, and Joe protests Jake X yes,
Speaker 3: he is telling the police, yeah, all right, I let
Speaker 3: her borrow my motorcycle.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: And then they promptly give Jake a ticket for loaning
Speaker 3: his bike to an unlicensed driver. Don't and then they leave,
Speaker 3: and as Joe was walking into Jake's apartment, we see
Speaker 3: that Matt, Alison and Ronda are just very small figures
Speaker 3: in the barred in the background. They've just watched the
Speaker 3: whole cop drama. So like you guys had to be
Speaker 3: there just to listen in and over here and like
Speaker 3: you were just like to be there for the background.
Speaker 2: What's going on with a strange new girl? What's happening?
Speaker 3: The cops are here, Yeah, this new girl, Jake.
Speaker 2: It's the scene where it's like you just go, okay,
Speaker 2: there gonna end.
Speaker 3: Una lying next they want to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're quick, You're you're kind of ahead of
Speaker 2: the rest of us. Uh.
Speaker 3: So they go inside and Joe tells Jake that she
Speaker 3: He's like, how did you? What the how did you?
Speaker 3: And she says, I used the spare house key from
Speaker 3: under the plant to steal is motorcycle. Borrow whatever, and
Speaker 3: Jake is pissed and tells Joe you're out of control.
Speaker 3: So they're having a fight here. Joe says, you know, wait,
Speaker 3: you were right about getting out into the wind to
Speaker 3: clear my head and it was great. And he says, yeah, well,
Speaker 3: next time, get a fan. He's pissed and Joe swears
Speaker 3: to Jake the bracelet.
Speaker 2: No, Jake, believe me.
Speaker 3: The bracelet is mine and I want things to be
Speaker 3: right between us, and.
Speaker 2: She goes, even share the ticket with you.
Speaker 3: You know I need and I need friends, and I
Speaker 3: think you do too. And meanwhile, Jake is angrily pouring
Speaker 3: a cup of orange juice. He's dunking his doughnut in
Speaker 3: and he's taking a big bite and Joe says, I'll
Speaker 3: split the ticket with you. He's absolutely flabbergasted, like what
Speaker 3: do you Yeah, Jake tells Joe that no, you owe
Speaker 3: me big time and for starters, he'll be taking me
Speaker 3: to dinner tonight.
Speaker 2: And she goes, I pick where. I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: building up. You just know they're going to be a
Speaker 2: couple and they're going to do this day in and
Speaker 2: day out, you know. And by the way, I'm having
Speaker 2: fun Alison and Billy had the same fight.
Speaker 1: I'll show you.
Speaker 3: You have to take me to dinner, dinner, like yeah,
Speaker 3: and this is how we get there.
Speaker 2: We can't just go to dinner. That would be boring.
Speaker 3: Drive this date that you and taking me to dinner.
Speaker 3: So she's like, fine, but I picked the place. And
Speaker 3: he dunks his donut and his orange juice and he
Speaker 3: eats it, and Jo says, that is an extraordinarily disgusting habit.
Speaker 1: And that's what they Grant did. Did Grant did they
Speaker 1: get that from? Did he did?
Speaker 2: Think so? But he took to it really naturally, didn't he?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because then he deliberately another really slow like a
Speaker 3: double bite bite bite, and then.
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh man, I'm gonna come for you. Boy.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember resenting so much that he and
Speaker 1: Andrew could eat all day every day. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: take their shirt off and it and have their as yes. Yes,
Speaker 1: people like what do you do? How hard you work
Speaker 1: out to get those?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Nothing, just born with it. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well eat a lot of donuts.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, dipping an orange jese. So then we cut
Speaker 3: to Brack in the lawyer's office, where Matt is coming in,
Speaker 3: and the lawyer tells Matt that his former employee has
Speaker 3: now upped the offer, offering ten thousand dollars plus his
Speaker 3: job back if they settle out of court. Matt is
Speaker 3: thrilled and says, we won, but his lawyer tells him
Speaker 3: that's not exactly a win, and she thinks they should
Speaker 3: take the case to trial, which would mean upwards of
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars minimum, she says, since it's such
Speaker 3: a slam dunk of a case of discrimination. Matt tells
Speaker 3: his lawyer that he misses the kids at his old
Speaker 3: job and he can't help them if he's in court
Speaker 3: for another year, and that nothing matters more to him
Speaker 3: than getting back to work and making a difference.
Speaker 2: Because of her. I've seen that, we saw where he
Speaker 2: runs into that kid. He right, and she's thinking dollar
Speaker 2: signs and how famous she'll be and how good it
Speaker 2: will be for her firm, and maybe she'll make partner,
Speaker 2: you know, if we go to trial.
Speaker 3: So she's disappointed and she tells Matt, well, I hope
Speaker 3: you're satisfied, and Matt replies that he's static, thrilled. So
Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars and his job back and he is
Speaker 3: super excited, and then we cut to Alison Billy in
Speaker 3: their apartment. Billy is lying on the couch during the day,
Speaker 3: recovering from his visit to the dentist. When Alison comes
Speaker 3: home asking how it went.
Speaker 2: Bill is such a cute is dentist novacane drunk guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's more than a little lapy, he's so cute
Speaker 3: loopy and he tells Alison that they had to drill
Speaker 3: so deep he could hear people speaking Chinese. Thought that
Speaker 3: was fun, and that he had novacaine, he had headphones,
Speaker 3: he had gas and pills to alleviate the pain, and
Speaker 3: so it was less painful than a New Kid's concert.
Speaker 3: Allison says, well, maybe I came home early for nothing.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're fine without me, gives him another pain pill.
Speaker 3: Billy asks Allison, wait, wait, can you turn on the
Speaker 3: TV for me? Can you grab a blanket for me?
Speaker 3: And oh, maybe run to the video.
Speaker 2: Store for me?
Speaker 3: And just like being all needy and you know, trying
Speaker 3: to get her come back, and he's loopy Billy, and
Speaker 3: Allison suggests, maybe Billy, you should go to your parents'
Speaker 3: house to recover. Yeah, and Billy reminds Allison, you know,
Speaker 3: I just got you through a broken heart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a really good point because she's like,
Speaker 1: get you a blanket, go to your parents' house.
Speaker 2: I know, step it.
Speaker 1: Up a little.
Speaker 3: I took care of you at your worst and I
Speaker 3: just had a little.
Speaker 2: Novacaine through a broken heart.
Speaker 3: But she agrees, she agrees to put on her metaphorical
Speaker 3: nurses uniform. So that's super cute. They're super cute. And
Speaker 3: then we cut to another couple, Jake Joe in the
Speaker 3: parking lot at night. After their dinner. They ride up
Speaker 3: on his motorcycle to happen in hotspot and parking lot.
Speaker 2: I was spending my time noticing that his arm is
Speaker 2: now around my shoulder. Yes, like IMA's girl. Yeah. And
Speaker 2: so they're at that point where she's like not moving it,
Speaker 2: but they haven't like, you know, officially hooked up yet.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought that was really interesting their body language. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So as they get off the bike and walk toward
Speaker 3: the building's and he's like just casually got his arm
Speaker 3: draped around her, and Joe says that she wants to
Speaker 3: take some dark and moody photos at this cool place
Speaker 3: for her portfolio.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 3: There's a Oh, by the way, did I mention him
Speaker 3: a photographer? There is a large sign right out front
Speaker 3: of the restaurant saying no drugs, no cameras, and so
Speaker 3: Joe promptly photographs it. She's like, let me take a
Speaker 3: picture of that. No drugs, no cameras. Joe then tries
Speaker 3: to hide her camera and Jake's jacket and things get
Speaker 3: a little flirty. They're teasing each other and it's a
Speaker 3: little bit of a tussle. It looks like Jake is
Speaker 3: maybe trying to sneak a kiss, and jo says, Jake,
Speaker 3: you have to have every woman you meet fall over you,
Speaker 3: and Jake sort of spins her around. He's teasing her back,
Speaker 3: and he says, oh, look, I think I see Madonna
Speaker 3: entering the club. He's like trying to steal a kiss,
Speaker 3: and then a guy suddenly comes up to them and says, hey, Beth,
Speaker 3: when did you hit La? And Joe's stopped in her tracks,
Speaker 3: so you have the wrong lady, But the guy says, Beth,
Speaker 3: it's me Jerry, and Joe loudly repeats wrong lady, and
Speaker 3: she tries to walk away and the guy reaches her
Speaker 3: arm as she goes Jake sort of swats away the
Speaker 3: guy's hand away from Joe, telling Jerry back off, dude.
Speaker 3: The lady says she doesn't know you, and then Jerry
Speaker 3: hauls off and punches Jake. Jake punches him back with
Speaker 3: one swing to the gut in one of the face.
Speaker 3: Jerry ends up on the ground. He's out cold. Jake
Speaker 3: is calling for Joe, but she is gone.
Speaker 2: Joe is wow. I mean this is now I would
Speaker 2: say the extreme. He's literally hit another guy. He's put
Speaker 2: up with so much friend, this is like God the defense.
Speaker 3: But she's disappeared, completely disappeared, all right. So then we're
Speaker 3: back with Alison and Billy at their apartment where Billy
Speaker 3: is sleeping on the couch and he is calling Alison's
Speaker 3: name in his sleep and calling her name, and then
Speaker 3: Alison appears next to Billy on the couch. She's wearing
Speaker 3: a silky lacy robe and lingerie and she's asking what
Speaker 3: can I do to make it better? She then leans
Speaker 3: down and kisses him and they make out finally.
Speaker 1: Like Andrew having a thing about they don't get to
Speaker 1: like sneak in the Billy and alson. So we did
Speaker 1: this really sort of exaggerated the dream sequence dream kiss,
Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't like. As an audience member,
Speaker 1: I would have been like, they don't look like they
Speaker 1: like each other very much.
Speaker 2: No, I thought.
Speaker 3: Still the audience is like cheering at this point, going yay, finally.
Speaker 1: Something something throw it's a bone.
Speaker 2: Even though it's a fantasy, it's.
Speaker 3: Not real, and yeah, it's obvious that it's a dream dreams.
Speaker 1: At the end of the scene, Andrew very hilariously like
Speaker 1: brings a pillow over his lap.
Speaker 2: I just think it's so cute. Billy's like Alisons, Allison, Allison,
Speaker 2: and you're like, yes, hello, wake up.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Because the dream fades and Alison, that version of
Speaker 3: Alison disappears. Billy's still sleeping on the couch and still
Speaker 3: calling out Alison's name, and he's like clutching at his blanket,
Speaker 3: and real life Alison is just nearby, like leaning over
Speaker 3: in her big fluffy robe, her real life robe, and
Speaker 3: she wakes Billy up from his dream and she's smiling.
Speaker 3: She's pretty amused, and Billy is kind of flustered about
Speaker 3: being awakened from the stream and there she is, and
Speaker 3: he almost tells her why we were uh, but then instead,
Speaker 3: he says it was just a disturbing dream, and he says,
Speaker 3: you know that I should have been warned about the
Speaker 3: side effects of these pain pills. And Alison is just
Speaker 3: sort of cutely smiling, wishes him good night and walks
Speaker 3: back to her room smiling. I thought that was super cute, like,
Speaker 3: I know what you were dreaming, And then we cut
Speaker 3: to Joe's apartment later that night, Joe Jake knocks on
Speaker 3: Joe's door. Joe answers, and Jake says, what happened to you?
Speaker 3: And here again. Joe tries to close the door on Jake,
Speaker 3: pushing him away, but he pushes the door open. Joe
Speaker 3: says she just doesn't like fights and that Jerry was
Speaker 3: mistaken when he called her Beth. Jake points out that
Speaker 3: some coincidence that Beth is also the name inside the bracelet.
Speaker 3: That he doesn't care what the truth is, he just
Speaker 3: wants to hear it. It's simpler, The truth is simpler,
Speaker 3: and there is nothing. Yeah, she says, there's nothing simple
Speaker 3: about my life right now, and she slams the door
Speaker 3: in his face. I just might I just want everything.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, like, because she's so extreme.
Speaker 2: It comes across that there's something bigger than she's letting
Speaker 2: on right in her life, very clearly. Okay, good, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: once we find out what really went on, we're dying.
Speaker 1: I was dying to know at this point, like at
Speaker 1: this point in the story, because they've dropped so many
Speaker 1: bread crumbs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it we all need to know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because there's no other explanation for why she's
Speaker 3: turning down Jake Hansen so many times.
Speaker 1: Cut to the next she goes, I got my period.
Speaker 3: That was it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Was it? Here's the big explanation. Instead, we cut to
Speaker 3: Jane and Michael's apartment in the morning. Jane is checking
Speaker 3: her teeth in the reflection of the stainless Steell toaster,
Speaker 3: and Michael comes into the kitchen groggy asleep, and Jane says,
Speaker 3: go back to bed. I just have to go to work.
Speaker 3: She complains to Michael about Kay, saying, Hey is just rude,
Speaker 3: she's vain, she's opinionated. Michael points out that the collective
Speaker 3: term for that is bitch, and it's the second time
Speaker 3: we've said bitch, and yes, Jane says that she just
Speaker 3: wants Kay to know that she too is good at
Speaker 3: her job. But Michael says, Kay's type is never going
Speaker 3: to admit that Jane is a good designer. Michael says
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to see Jane heard. Jane doesn't need
Speaker 3: this woman to tell her that she's great, and then
Speaker 3: they kiss and they exchange I love yous, and Jane
Speaker 3: says they'll spend the next day, which is going to
Speaker 3: be Sunday, together and they can pick up where they
Speaker 3: left off a couple of nights ago. But right now
Speaker 3: she's got to get to work, so off she goes.
Speaker 3: And we're back with Alison and Billy in the apartment
Speaker 3: in the morning, where Alison is reading the paper in
Speaker 3: the kitchen. Billy walks in and asks him, did you
Speaker 3: sleep okay?
Speaker 2: He says, how still you are? You just wait like
Speaker 2: the cat waiting for the little mouse to make the
Speaker 2: wrong move, you know. He's like, oh, like mm hmmm yeah,
Speaker 2: and then she pounces.
Speaker 3: He says yeah. He says something about like thawing after
Speaker 3: being cryogenically frozen, which I think is his metaphor for
Speaker 3: saying he's starting to feel more normal, and Alison presses
Speaker 3: him about his dream last night. Following him into the kitchen,
Speaker 3: asking him what was happening in that dream? Clutching your
Speaker 3: pillow and screening.
Speaker 2: She sits up on the counter right next him, right
Speaker 2: in his face. But what's going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Billy says, I can't remember. She insists that he
Speaker 3: tell her. So. Then Billy says, well, a Tyronosaurus rex
Speaker 3: showed up dream and it snatched you away, and and yeah,
Speaker 3: that's why I was calling your name.
Speaker 2: That's why I was clinging to the pillow and yeah, and.
Speaker 3: She says to the pillow, Well that was because uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: in the dream he was holding on I was holding
Speaker 3: onto the dinosaur's tail and trying to get the dinosaur
Speaker 3: to drop you, like the silly scoofiest story. And Alison
Speaker 3: is not buying.
Speaker 1: You know, like he's nine. There's a dinosaur and another dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: The dinosaur albathin so big it was green.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then so he turns around and says, well, do you
Speaker 3: ever dream about me? And Allison says no, but very
Speaker 3: coyly says well, if I did, it wouldn't be something
Speaker 3: we could talk about. And she hops down off the counter.
Speaker 3: She brushes by Billy, saying something about like something should
Speaker 3: be kept private and leaves the kitchen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's all but admitting to dirty dirty dream.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well this one again, this is happening.
Speaker 1: Game on, we should bet on dinner sometime.
Speaker 2: It is happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So back in the courtyard, Ronda and Matt are coming
Speaker 3: down the stairs from Ronda's apartment in. Ronda is thrilled
Speaker 3: for Matt that he's going to be getting ten thousand
Speaker 3: dollars for his settlement, and Randa suggests mutual funds buy
Speaker 3: some land without all that money. Matt says he's going
Speaker 3: to start a legal aid fund for victims of discrimination
Speaker 3: based on sexual orientation, and Ronda says that's a great idea,
Speaker 3: great investment, and she's very happy for Matt.
Speaker 2: Because he's such a good guy. She's likeness all of
Speaker 2: it away, and he's like, yep, yeah, amazing, okay.
Speaker 3: And then back at the fashion workroom at the store shop,
Speaker 3: Kay is barking orders to all the employees. While walking
Speaker 3: around the workroom, Kay says the new k Beacon collection
Speaker 3: is smart, flattering, and perfect, and she notices that Jane
Speaker 3: is not fawning all over her, and she says, well,
Speaker 3: how did I know my brilliance wouldn't satisfy everyone? What
Speaker 3: is wrong Jane? And she asks Jane her thoughts on
Speaker 3: the designs, and then Jane tells her a couple of things,
Speaker 3: and Kay very condescendingly dismisses everything that Jane said.
Speaker 2: Did you notice those dresses were so big in the nineties,
Speaker 2: Maxie dresses were just everywhere. I mean we wore them
Speaker 2: and press and they were just everywhere. Those dresses just
Speaker 2: brought it all back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those were everywhere, somewhere between your knee and your ankle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, God, but Jane is she's had it, and she says, tokay,
Speaker 3: if becoming a successful designer means turning into a rude,
Speaker 3: egomaniacal bitch like yourself, third, bitch, I must be in
Speaker 3: the wrong business.
Speaker 2: That's a bitch. Can spicy this show?
Speaker 1: Yeah you mean, and it's way before the Mondays are
Speaker 1: a bitch?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Advertising campaign no, Kate Beacon, Joe and Kay Beacon is
Speaker 3: a bit.
Speaker 2: The guys are just going like, what the hell's happening?
Speaker 2: Or women, We're all starting to turn.
Speaker 3: And to all of that, Kay just rolls her eyes
Speaker 3: and says, see me in my office. So we cut
Speaker 3: to Kay's office, where Kay admits to Jane that she
Speaker 3: has been thoughtless and insensitive, and Kay goes on to
Speaker 3: tell Jane she thinks Jane is talented and she would
Speaker 3: hate to see Jane leave. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: Michael shows up. He's got even lunch basket and he
Speaker 3: is there to have some.
Speaker 2: Lunch with Jane.
Speaker 3: Jane introduces Michael to Kay and Ca says, oh, good
Speaker 3: looking and a doctor. I guess your mother sleeps like
Speaker 3: a log.
Speaker 2: Jane.
Speaker 1: See a completely different person in this episode, Yeah, completely
Speaker 1: see It's like, wait, what what just happened?
Speaker 3: Loving doting husband with a cute little little print.
Speaker 1: Like needy husband.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, remember that it wasn't too long ago
Speaker 2: that she was coming to the doctor to the hospital
Speaker 2: with lunch. He was like all like, what are you
Speaker 2: doing here? And you know, she's like he has a
Speaker 2: different reaction. He brings her lunch. They go up to
Speaker 2: the roof and have a NYE lunch in the middle.
Speaker 3: And then, quite out of character, Ky suggests that they
Speaker 3: go up onto the roof right like that. She's suddenly
Speaker 3: nice because he's there. Is that why she's nice?
Speaker 1: Then she's well, she started apologizing, which doesn't seem very
Speaker 1: in line with her bully character, but maybe yeah, Jane
Speaker 1: standing up to her shifted something.
Speaker 3: And it was also like even her apology comes with well,
Speaker 3: I hate I would hate to see leave. Yeah, almost
Speaker 3: like you know, try that, Good luck with that. But anyway,
Speaker 3: So Michael and Jane go up to the roof to
Speaker 3: have their lunch at a table on the roof with
Speaker 3: a view of the ocean, and Michael tells Jane that
Speaker 3: her new job has pushed some buttons for him that
Speaker 3: he didn't know he had, but that he really does
Speaker 3: support her in her career, and Jane says she knows
Speaker 3: that Michael and Jane, that she knows that they both
Speaker 3: want to have a baby, that right now she wants
Speaker 3: to focus on her career, and she asks if that's
Speaker 3: okay with Michael, and he says, I love you too
Speaker 3: much to say no, who are you?
Speaker 1: Real life? Wasn't Josie like twenty two at this point?
Speaker 2: At most two? I think twenty one because when I
Speaker 2: came on she I remember being in her trailer and
Speaker 2: talking to her and finding out like she was twenty one,
Speaker 2: so h yeah, very young.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then we cut back to Joe's apartment during
Speaker 3: the day. She's in her dark room bathroom developing some
Speaker 3: photos and Jake knocks at the door, walks in, telling
Speaker 3: Joe that he's not the kind of guy that Joe
Speaker 3: needs to run away from. Jake tells Joe, I care
Speaker 3: about you, and Joe says, why why do you care
Speaker 3: about me? And Jake says that Joe uh. He thinks
Speaker 3: Joe's desperate to have someone care about her, and he
Speaker 3: says he wants Joe to trust him and he just
Speaker 3: wants to be around her.
Speaker 2: It's just come in with this force. He's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not taking this anymore from you. It's not like it's
Speaker 2: and it's a different kind of energy. It's not like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to force you to talk about
Speaker 2: things you don't want to talk about. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I got to set it straight. You think I'm you know,
Speaker 2: taking things from you, and you think I'm a bad person,
Speaker 2: and you think you can't trust me. But I like
Speaker 2: how he finally puts down his foot, he gets in
Speaker 2: that thing, and that's you're like, oh, finally, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he does, but in a really supportive way, really
Speaker 2: supportive way, I don't care about all this stuff, your lies.
Speaker 3: I care about you. And it does force her to
Speaker 3: sort of feel comfortable enough to start opening up, and
Speaker 3: she then starts to tell him that her mother died
Speaker 3: by suicide when she was seven years old, and that
Speaker 3: her father remarried. She tells him that she met her husband,
Speaker 3: Charles Reynolds, in college and he was from a disgustingly
Speaker 3: wealthy family and it was pretty good for a while,
Speaker 3: she said, but she dropped out of college to be
Speaker 3: a socialite for her husband that eventually that felt like
Speaker 3: she was fading away in the marriage and just losing herself,
Speaker 3: and so she left without a note or even a goodbye,
Speaker 3: and she started she wanted to start living her life,
Speaker 3: her life, she emphasized, and she explains the Beth, Yeah,
Speaker 3: she tells her. She tells Jake that her full name
Speaker 3: is Joe Beth and that her mother had called her Joe,
Speaker 3: and so Joe is who she really is.
Speaker 2: But everyone else called her Beth in her husband's life,
Speaker 2: than her old daughter that bracelet, and so this is
Speaker 2: her going back to the name Joe, but really she
Speaker 2: has been Beth all those years.
Speaker 3: Joe then apologizes to Jake for all the lies, and
Speaker 3: Jake says he knows a way to get them to
Speaker 3: both stop running from whatever their past, and then he
Speaker 3: kisses her.
Speaker 1: She kiss him back, right, she kisses and how surprised
Speaker 1: for you? I was like, oh, oh, we're here, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, we're kissing.
Speaker 3: He just like he leans in, it's very sweet, kisses
Speaker 3: her on the cheek and Joe's oh no, we're doing this,
Speaker 3: and she leans in and kisses him back, and then
Speaker 3: they start making out and they stop for a second
Speaker 3: just smile at each other, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was earned, Like we've seen them
Speaker 1: go back and forth, right, it's really earned. But I
Speaker 1: was still surprised because they're very emotional connected scene then
Speaker 1: they're kissing. Were you surprised after? Did you remember it?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: I was surprised because we're on my second episode and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I didn't know that I was
Speaker 2: besties with you starting the first episode and then I'm
Speaker 2: start making out with Jake the second episode. She's like,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, jump right in. But once I really
Speaker 2: liked and it did bring up I always looked forward
Speaker 2: to my scenes with Jake, you know, with Grant and
Speaker 2: we always had fun, and I like they caught that
Speaker 2: moment after the kiss. It was a very real moment
Speaker 2: of like smiling, like, oh, we're actually kissing, you know.
Speaker 2: They ended the episode, and it just reminded me how
Speaker 2: much fun we always had and I always just loved
Speaker 2: playing with them, you know, when I first came on.
Speaker 2: This also reminded me. I first came in and I
Speaker 2: asked him if he wanted to rehearse. No one rehearses
Speaker 2: in TV. There's not time to rehearse, but he said yes,
Speaker 2: and he came over to my house on the weekend.
Speaker 2: We didn't rehearse making out or anything that's like not.
Speaker 2: We just rehearsed and we talked about it and we
Speaker 2: you know, we both were really into it, and I
Speaker 2: think that really shows that there was a comfort with
Speaker 2: each other and a playfulness. So yeah, and we had
Speaker 2: a real nice that started and lasted years to this day.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you knew that there was going to
Speaker 3: be like a big relationship on the show, and you
Speaker 3: really wanted to get it right and like establish that
Speaker 3: relationship and wanting to rehearse that and stuff.
Speaker 2: Grant always says this thing about how before I even
Speaker 2: came on the show. He saw me in New York City.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys remember this story, but
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, he would always say this in interviews.
Speaker 2: It made me sound like such a jerk. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: saw you. I saw a dad in New York City
Speaker 2: and we both went to UCLA together. And I come
Speaker 2: up to her in this Mexican restaurant. I know it
Speaker 2: because I've heard this so many times, and I don't
Speaker 2: remember it, I promise you. But he comes up and says, hey,
Speaker 2: I went to UCLA too. We know people in common.
Speaker 2: And apparently I look at him and go no oh,
Speaker 2: and he's like she said that to me and nah,
Speaker 2: and so he's like okay, and he walks off. I
Speaker 2: guess and so here we are there's already kind of
Speaker 2: guess that thing going on.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but so anyway, don't remember it at all.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't remember it. I clearly do you
Speaker 2: do you think it's possible that and I don't remember
Speaker 2: him at UCLA, but we did have people, but we
Speaker 2: did have people in common. I know who those people
Speaker 2: are in the theater department. Yeah, but anyway, there.
Speaker 3: Was this time.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't you like if you came up to
Speaker 1: some random brunette and the story, Yes, but.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what you think we all look alike? No,
Speaker 2: but I felt bad retroactively powerful.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I don't remember it all right. Well,
Speaker 3: we've got a couple of fan questions here.
Speaker 2: Was there ever a character that you wish you had
Speaker 2: interacted with more, shared more scenes with? That's to all
Speaker 2: of us. I think I never had much with you,
Speaker 2: did I?
Speaker 3: Laura?
Speaker 2: Did Joe and Sydney have scenes?
Speaker 3: No? It's interesting, like I was, I was noting it
Speaker 3: from this episode that like the Allison character had so
Speaker 3: much going on in the early episodes, right, like you
Speaker 3: were such the onngnoon and such the lead character, Like
Speaker 3: you not only had this rich, rich and robust story
Speaker 3: and then this billy thing that's brewing your own stuff
Speaker 3: going on, and then you get to be the character
Speaker 3: that's going to be the best friend of the new
Speaker 3: character coming in, so like you really sort of everywhere.
Speaker 3: And then I was thinking about it, like when my
Speaker 3: character came in, I was very isolated in my own
Speaker 3: little storyline, and then Michael and Jane World.
Speaker 2: Jane and you, and then Marshall when she came on yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't that like you guys' group.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then late like in later episodes I I had,
Speaker 3: I got to have scenes with Heather and and I
Speaker 3: had with Grant and things like that, and sometimes with
Speaker 3: with Doug. But I didn't really interact with I know,
Speaker 3: I didn't really have scenes like our characters really didn't
Speaker 3: overlap or intertwine. And and yeah, yeah I was. I
Speaker 3: was often my scenes.
Speaker 2: I liked my scenes with Heather because I liked, at
Speaker 2: least for a while, at least for a while, Joe
Speaker 2: was very strong. I feel like then they got into
Speaker 2: kind of like these men would come and take advantage
Speaker 2: of her, just like beat her down and kind of
Speaker 2: or something. She became less strong. I noticed that. But
Speaker 2: I would have liked it with Sidney, I think, and
Speaker 2: I liked it with Heather because Heather was strong and
Speaker 2: I would meet her there. I remember in a few
Speaker 2: scenes that we had what about you, Core, you seemed
Speaker 2: to any one that you wish you worked with are.
Speaker 1: I got to have scenes with almost everybody but except Laura.
Speaker 1: Same thing because you and in the beginning, I had
Speaker 1: scenes with Josie. But then you guys sort of had
Speaker 1: your own storyline. I think it's when the medical office
Speaker 1: opened with Jack Wagner. So I would have liked to
Speaker 1: play more with you guys, with Jack and Heather and you,
Speaker 1: although Heather and I for a long time I had
Speaker 1: scenes at D and D. Yeah, I think Jack Wagner
Speaker 1: and you are the two people I would have had
Speaker 1: fun working with. We had great storylines together Daftney. I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't remember the beginning one, but we had great
Speaker 1: ones in the future. So they kind I wonder too
Speaker 1: if it's part of double ups that they had to
Speaker 1: separate the storylines because we had two crews, so we
Speaker 1: had less group scenes with all of us. In the beginning,
Speaker 1: we had that a lot more and it sort of
Speaker 1: faded away.
Speaker 2: So I think the writers probably, like, you know, they
Speaker 2: see something that's working and they got a confused. Don't
Speaker 2: you think it would confuse the audience if they criss
Speaker 2: crossed us a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because like I think the whole Sydney Michael Jane world,
Speaker 3: it was like I feel like Sydney especially was like
Speaker 3: on Planet Sydney, like there was a whole, like she
Speaker 3: was unlikely to be like even moving in and getting
Speaker 3: her own apartment, she was never going to be that
Speaker 3: character that was like on the same wavelength or level
Speaker 3: as everybody else at the thing. She was always like younger,
Speaker 3: you know, imaginary younger as a character, lest I think
Speaker 3: she was a different planet.
Speaker 2: Well, she was also like wanting to really get at
Speaker 2: her sister, and I think she was so manipul and
Speaker 2: so pulling all this stuff that I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: she knew she wouldn't have gotten away with that with
Speaker 2: the rest of us, Like yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I just think there's only so
Speaker 3: much they could write, you know, Like, yeah, but it'd
Speaker 3: be really hard to like intertwine this totally different universe
Speaker 3: with that universe. And you know, there was the D
Speaker 3: and D universe, and then there was the Burnsvancina universe
Speaker 3: and the Beach House universe and all that stuff, and
Speaker 3: like the Jake and Joe I feel like, is a
Speaker 3: universe too, you know, Like and so I think it's
Speaker 3: hard to intertwine all of those. Yeah, the universes, I
Speaker 3: don't know. That's but it would have been fun, would
Speaker 3: have been fun to work together. So maybe maybe sometime
Speaker 3: in the future.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious to see if we had scenes together.
Speaker 1: I remember hanging out with you in the makeup trailer, Laura. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that being fun, but I don't. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember when we would have had scenes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then only only big group scenes where you know,
Speaker 3: inevitably Sydney's doing something wrong and making you know, a
Speaker 3: mess of things or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well I'm excited to see and I like
Speaker 1: what they did in this in this show, Daffy, they
Speaker 1: really brought your character in strong, and they're really focusing
Speaker 1: on you so that the audience is getting to change
Speaker 1: because it already feels like you're a part of it.
Speaker 1: She's great. They really did this in a smart way.
Speaker 1: So only your second episode, they got around you're already
Speaker 1: a part of the show, but very well intertwined with it.
Speaker 1: They really did, so.
Speaker 3: There's a There's another question that asks us, all, how
Speaker 3: do we like to rewatch these episodes as we're rewatching
Speaker 3: to prepare for our podcast. Do we watch with a
Speaker 3: glass of wine at home or with friends, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Would we consider doing a live recap together?
Speaker 2: That would be cool.
Speaker 1: Characters are fun, That would be so fun.
Speaker 3: When I watch Melrose out like the episodes, I get
Speaker 3: to watch with Doug. Sometimes I make him sit down
Speaker 3: and watch with me. But it would be super fun
Speaker 3: if we all had a night the three of us
Speaker 3: wait and where we watched all together.
Speaker 2: I've been known to have a spritzer and and David
Speaker 2: brings it to me and and then he goes, you're
Speaker 2: watching yourself on TV again, And I'm like, yep, I
Speaker 2: want to, Like, he's just not interested. I want to watch,
Speaker 2: but uh but and then he comes in and he goes,
Speaker 2: what you're doing? I go working watching TV?
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Doing these podcast episodes is kind
Speaker 3: of like the rewatch together, Like we do our little
Speaker 3: rewatch on our own, but then coming together to talk
Speaker 3: about it is like having the shared experience. So it
Speaker 3: feels like that's almost what we're doing is having this
Speaker 3: shared experience by doing these podcasts recaps every week together.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it would be really fun if we
Speaker 1: could get everybody together to be determined dinner party.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that'd be really fun party.
Speaker 3: I just want to show that'd be really fun.
Speaker 2: Just invite us, please, Let's just have a damn dinner party.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for coming to listen to another episode
Speaker 3: of Still the place, yes, thanks everybody, Gay Week.
Speaker 2: I fine,