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Speaker 1: in going. All right, let's dive into a lot of

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Speaker 1: the activities that are taking place right now. But let

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Speaker 1: me give you a little bit of a roadmap. Congressman

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan going to join us at twelve thirty he

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Speaker 1: has uncovered emails suggesting yet another conspiracy was correct, which

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Speaker 1: is the COVID shot was hidden from voters in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Now we know that ultimately the COVID shot became to

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Speaker 1: a large extent worthless, but it would have likely swung

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Speaker 1: the election. If there had been an opportunity for people

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Speaker 1: to know in November, hey, we think we have a

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Speaker 1: COVID shot vaccine. Trump would have surged in the polls.

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Speaker 1: I really do believe this, and that, among many other aspects,

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Speaker 1: might well have decided the election given how close things

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Speaker 1: were in twenty twenty in Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that story with Jim Jordan.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to be joined by our friend Nicole Parker,

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Speaker 1: former FBI agent. Big news coming out from cash Ptel

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Speaker 1: about the choices that he is going to make regarding

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Speaker 1: the FBI jag Or Hoover headquarters building, but also the

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Speaker 1: story that I wanted to start with that happened yesterday

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Speaker 1: in the afternoon. James Comey, former head of the FBI

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Speaker 1: from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen, who effectively out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: helped to create the idea of Russia collusion as it

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Speaker 1: pertained to Trump's election victory. In twenty sixteen, posted a

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Speaker 1: Instagram message photo of seashells arranged so that the numbers

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Speaker 1: eight six four seven were shown. He claimed that he

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Speaker 1: had just been walking on the beach and seen it. Interestingly,

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Speaker 1: buck and this is me going full Sherlock Holmes. I

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Speaker 1: was on with Jesse Waters last night, and my prep

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Speaker 1: for that was something I didn't expect that I would

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Speaker 1: ever end up doing, which was going through James Comey's

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Speaker 1: past Instagram posts, and prior to that, he had found

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Speaker 1: a seashell also on the beach that miraculously was painted

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Speaker 1: I am not the greatest investigator who has ever lived.

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Speaker 1: But if you are posting multiple seashell stories to give

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Speaker 1: political opinions, it would suggest to me that the former

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Speaker 1: head of the FBI did this eight six four seven,

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Speaker 1: or some of his friend's family whoever he was hanging

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Speaker 1: it's just a super weird thing to post. And he

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction, Buck, And for those of you

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Speaker 1: who don't know and may not have seen this story,

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Speaker 1: eight six is basically, take somebody out. Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: obviously the forty seventh president of the United States. In

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Speaker 1: pretty much any parlance that would be associated I would

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Speaker 1: imagine with any sort of investigative branch, this would be

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Speaker 1: a call to arms, a suggestion that Trump, who has

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction when you saw it? Were you

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Speaker 3: I think that James Comy was the single worst bureaucrat

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Speaker 3: the headlines again. I would say this is so shockingly stupid,

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Speaker 3: But if you've actually spent any time thinking about, learning

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Speaker 3: about reading about James Comy, he is truly, I think,

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Speaker 3: a pathological narcissist and has created this narrative in his

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Speaker 3: orchestrated himself. I mean, just to take a step back

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Speaker 3: he is a shmo of the first order. He is

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Speaker 3: the absolute worst, and he got right alongside Fauci. And

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Speaker 3: you also, just for those who want to take a

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Speaker 3: little trip down memory lane with me on this clay,

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Speaker 3: you know that he was the US attorney who pushed

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Speaker 3: the ultimate prosecutorial show boat, which is a menace, a

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Speaker 3: menace in a free society. Somebody who thinks I'm going

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Speaker 3: to ruin someone else's life and take away their freedom

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Speaker 3: because of how it will make me look in the newspapers.

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Speaker 3: That is the last person that you want to be

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Speaker 3: the state. Fauchi, I mean se Fauci Komy is a

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Speaker 3: really malignant force in America. He knew exactly what he

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Speaker 3: implications of Your buddies aren't calling the shots at the

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Speaker 3: and they don't think you're a little subtle threat to

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Speaker 2: To do here.

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Speaker 1: It's super weird too, a guy sixty four years old.

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Speaker 1: So the idea that you would decide I.

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Speaker 3: Remember all the Instagram photos he used to post of himself,

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Speaker 3: like staring at lakes during the Russia collusion thing. The

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Speaker 3: guy's is in love with himself. He's a weirdo. Clay,

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Speaker 3: a weirdo. Sorry I was gonna say. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: understand when you're a nineteen or twenty year old influencer

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Speaker 3: This whole thing is very strange to me. I thought

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Speaker 3: of me is thinking, is he begging to be arrested.

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Speaker 1: Because it's so awfully dumb for someone who has been

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Speaker 1: and to do it with seashells on the beach.

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Speaker 3: It's just a very It's like a beta male threat

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Speaker 3: te terrorist extraordinaire.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: It's insane, But Clay, it's also a reminder of these

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Speaker 3: people who who threw their everything they had into destroying

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Speaker 3: and they had a lot of power in government before

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Speaker 3: Trump came along. Some of the people that he has

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Speaker 3: Trump has on us a huge favor because all these

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Speaker 3: wackados at the top of the government bureaucracy showed us

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. It has led to a

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Speaker 1: great collection of memes of people posting their own seashell

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Speaker 1: messages on the beach. But I just like, if you're

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, what is going on in your world?

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Speaker 1: What is going on in your mind? And to have

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Speaker 1: there's a seashell photo of a call to kill Trump

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Speaker 1: and you claim that you just took a photo and

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Speaker 2: And I just I don't I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: And I hope that he is already being questioned about this.

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Speaker 1: But part of me thinks that it does. He want

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Speaker 3: No, he's so used to playing these little sanctimonious games

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Speaker 3: I mean he really he presents himself like a blameless

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Speaker 2: He's like, Oh, I was just doing a Russia collusion.

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Speaker 2: I just pursuing the Bureau's prerogatives.

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Speaker 3: I just you know, he is such a phony boloney

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Speaker 3: and now he's doing this. Oh, I didn't think about

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Speaker 3: what the implications of this would be. You're the FBI director.

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Speaker 2: That's my thing.

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Speaker 3: It's so weird, Like what there's what leeway should you

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Speaker 3: get for Iden? First of all, did he give anyone

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: And secondly, you would know this.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, this is a free speech.

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Speaker 3: And it doesn't actually what those are just numbers, just

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Speaker 3: like the uh, what is the marijuana plant? Smiley face

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Speaker 3: one three on the guys. It's just a coincidence, Clay,

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Speaker 3: It's a one inten It's a one in ten trillion

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Speaker 3: I think I know what you're doing here, But but

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Speaker 3: they're a coincidence. Theorists and and Komy is so used

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Speaker 3: to getting away with insulting our intelligence, and that's what

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Speaker 3: he's doing once again.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know what what should the concert?

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Speaker 1: So let's pretend you are in charge of investigating this,

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Speaker 1: which is unfortunately it should be totally unnecessary, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: He's going he's going to I can tell you what

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Speaker 3: he's gonna do. He's not going to get criminally, they're

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Speaker 3: And don't get mad at me if I'm wrong, I'll

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Speaker 3: come on and apologize. I'm just telling you what's going

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Speaker 3: They are charging him and they're taking seriously.

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Speaker 2: Should they? Yeah? But should they? And will they?

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Speaker 3: Is not the same question, right, I think, Clay, what

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Speaker 2: Want to know how sanctimonious Comy is? You ready for this? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: If this was any kind of threat against Trump, Comy

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: I wonder, usually you don't take only one photo on

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Speaker 3: The one, the one that I think is the is

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Speaker 3: the toughest for the Komy defense is what you told

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Speaker 2: And this is how comy. This is like finger painting

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Speaker 1: full Sherlock Holmes, here buck, how many seashell photos have

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Speaker 1: How often when you post something on Instagram. I only

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Speaker 2: We head up to Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 1: Did you be joined by our good buddy, Congressman Jim

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Speaker 1: Jordan of Ohio? Lots to get into with him on

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Speaker 1: a variety of different subjects.

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Speaker 2: But let's start off right off the top.

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Speaker 1: Here, big beautiful bill making its way through the House

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think in the end, good be

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Speaker 6: we don't taxes, and if we don't get this pass,

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Speaker 6: So I think in the end we get there. We

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Speaker 6: the Budget Committee. But we'll keep working and I think

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Speaker 3: What's the most beautiful thing in the big beautiful bill

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Speaker 3: or the most beautiful thing if you're just giving us

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Speaker 3: because let's be honest, very few people out there are

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Speaker 6: Two things? One that it just what I talked about.

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Speaker 6: There'll be tax cuts for American families and business, R

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Speaker 3: Helps not to interrupt you new tax cuts not you

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Speaker 3: just like making old tax cuts that Trump had permanent.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: Both of those, Both of those will happen. So I

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Speaker 6: think that is I think that is huge. Second, work requirements.

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Speaker 6: of the one of the things you guys all know this,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it would have been close. What happened?

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Speaker 2: What have you uncovered?

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Speaker 6: We understand that so and those kind of things just

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Speaker 2: Cox and Jordan, I know you only have a minute

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Speaker 3: of the day, which is you've dealt with Comy in

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Speaker 2: You're familiar with this fellow. What the heck is he.

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Speaker 3: Thinking sharing this eighty six forty seven seashells thing? Like,

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Speaker 6: what are you doing this for? And then I'm surprised

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Speaker 6: that he said, well, I think he said that it

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Speaker 6: was just on the beach. I took a picture of it.

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Speaker 6: It had come on. He probably arranged this thing. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you gotta be kidding me. So, but then you think

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Speaker 6: about it. Comy I probably deposed I said this earlier

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Speaker 6: to someone today. I probably said in more deposition, more

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Speaker 6: transcribed interviews than just about any member Congress over the

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Speaker 6: last fifteen years. And certain people, when they're in a deposition,

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Speaker 6: their attitude is they're arrogance. You just see it. You

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Speaker 6: just like Comy was almost like, how dare some country

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Speaker 6: hillbilly from western Ohio asked me, Jim Comey questions in

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Speaker 6: a depth. It's like he was like Clapper and Brennan

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Speaker 6: frankly certain people. So I just think he wants attention.

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Speaker 6: It was stupid, It was wrong, and God bless Christie

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Speaker 6: know him for in secret service for investigating the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: One last question here is I know you're busy, and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming on today all of the revelations

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Speaker 1: that are coming out about Joe Biden, and suddenly Democrats

456
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Speaker 1: are saying, how could we have possibly known? A Democrat

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Speaker 1: media like Jake Tapper is saying, boy, were we ever

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Speaker 1: snookered here? We had no idea this was going on?

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Speaker 1: Why would it not make sense? And you can tell

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Speaker 1: me if I'm crazy on this. Given the fact that

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Speaker 1: Democrats had primetime hearings on jan six, and that may

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Speaker 1: have been beneficial and impactful for them in the midterms

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Speaker 1: because enough people paid attention and were willing to buy

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Speaker 1: the story that they were telling, why would it not

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Speaker 1: be beneficial to bring all these Biden aids in, put

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Speaker 1: them under oath, question them about what they actually saw,

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Speaker 1: and hold Democrats responsible for the question that I think

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Speaker 1: you probably still have too, Who the heck's been running

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Speaker 1: the country for the past few years, given that Bayen

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Speaker 1: didn't have the mental or physical capability.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well we know who was running it that we

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Speaker 6: know who was running it in foreign policy. It was

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Speaker 6: the whole darned team that Clinton and Obama had, you know,

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Speaker 6: Jake Sullivan, Wendy Sherman, Bilburns, Tony blinketn But we never

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Speaker 6: really kind of knew who was running domestic politic. He

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Speaker 6: was really making the call over there. But yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 6: Jake Tapper lied to us for four years and now

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Speaker 6: he writes a book and is making money telling us

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Speaker 6: the truth. I mean, you can't make this.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 6: So I do think that makes sense. But I think

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Speaker 6: step one in this process is getting the her tapes.

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Speaker 6: And this is why we were asked him for. You know,

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Speaker 6: we were after him for the last year and a

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Speaker 6: half whenever Robert Hurt testified and conveyed to us just

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Speaker 6: you know, he wasn't going to prosecute but just how

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Speaker 6: bad that interview was. He told us it. But we'd

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Speaker 6: like to we'd actually like to have the audio tapes,

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Speaker 6: which we know exist, and the Justice Department refused to

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Speaker 6: refuse to give to us. We think we're going to

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Speaker 6: get those public here soon. I think that's step one,

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Speaker 6: and you we'll see how they play out. But if

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Speaker 6: it's anything like the transcript. I think it's it's going

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Speaker 6: to be pretty good or pretty interesting, i should say,

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Speaker 6: and then we can go to some of these people

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Speaker 6: after that. But I think that's that's sort of step

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Speaker 6: one in any investigation that we do.

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Speaker 2: Good stuffs. And Jordan, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 6: Sir, you bet, thanks, thanks for all you guys do.

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Speaker 6: Take care.

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Speaker 2: Well there we have it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean I appreciate him making the time

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Speaker 1: because I think as always super impactful to hear from him.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk about what exactly is taking place on the uh

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Speaker 1: on that bill.

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Speaker 2: But I feel pretty good. And I'm sure you.

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Speaker 3: See the breaking news break news in the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 3: big beautiful bill stalled after being blocked by conservative House Republicans.

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Speaker 1: But I feel a little bit like this with this,

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Speaker 1: like I do about the what do they always get

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Speaker 1: shut down?

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Speaker 2: Or the debt debt government.

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Speaker 1: Shutdowns, debt ceilings. I would be stunned beyond belief if

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Speaker 1: this doesn't end up getting passed at some point in

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Speaker 1: the near future.

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Speaker 3: Are you suggesting Clay that in the Congress sometimes there

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Speaker 2: We're joined by our friend Nicole Parker.

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Speaker 3: She's a Fox contributor and a former FBI special agent. Nicole,

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Speaker 3: great to have you back. It's my understanding that you

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Speaker 3: at one point were at the Bureau while Comy was

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Speaker 3: the director. What was that traumatic experience like for you?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, thank you for having me. I

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Speaker 4: always love to join y'all. I can tell you that

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Speaker 4: I love being an FBI special agent. But the moment

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Speaker 4: that I knew that things were going downhill at the

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Speaker 4: FBI was July fifth of twenty sixteen, and it was

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Speaker 4: when Jim Comey got in front of the American people

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Speaker 4: and said that no reasonable prosecutor would charge Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 4: for her mishandling of classified information on her personal server.

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Speaker 4: And at that moment, it was just downhill with Comy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was an absolute train wreck. And then

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Speaker 4: you go into Operation cross By or Hurricane and his

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Speaker 4: involvement with that, and he, I think single handedly destroyed

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Speaker 4: the FBI. And I think that many of my FBI

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Speaker 4: colleagues would certainly agree with that. The FBI has never

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Speaker 4: recovered since his destruction. I can tell you that under

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Speaker 4: Robert Muller, you know, he left the FBI, Comy comes

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Speaker 4: in and we're thinking, Okay, let's see what this new

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Speaker 4: director is all about. And he purported himself as being

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Speaker 4: very moral, a strong moral compass, and he does the

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Speaker 4: right thing. And I'm this great guy. And I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you that at first we were a fool, like we

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Speaker 4: were like, wow, this guy seems really cool, Like he

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Speaker 4: seems very you know, gregarious, and you know, for the agent.

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Speaker 4: But I can tell you it went downhill very quickly,

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Speaker 4: and I'd say most FBI agents, current and former see

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Speaker 4: him as the root cause of the FBI's problems and

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Speaker 4: a total narcissist.

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Speaker 1: All right, Nicole, this post eighty six forty seven. I

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Speaker 1: am maybe spending too much time trying to delve into

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Speaker 1: James Comy's head, But based on the way that he

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Speaker 1: initially posted it, and the fact that he's previously posted

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Speaker 1: shells that show or a shell that shows a suggestion

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Speaker 1: that you should vote for Kamala Harris, I do not

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Speaker 1: find it persuasive that he was just walking along the beach,

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Speaker 1: took a random picture of four numbers spelled out on

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Speaker 1: the beach, decided to share that with his audience, and

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Speaker 1: had no idea what the significance of the four numbers

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Speaker 1: was and nothing to do with the creation of the

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Speaker 1: four numbers in seashells. You're a former FBI agent? Am

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Speaker 1: I crazy for that analysis?

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Speaker 2: Point one? Point two?

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Speaker 1: I want you to analyze this further as as if

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Speaker 1: this were an investigation. I would think that this could

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Speaker 1: lead to his phone being seized, because we know the

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Speaker 1: evidence of this photo presumably came from his phone. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he was walking around with an iPad or

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Speaker 1: with a laptop outside taking photos, right, And I think

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Speaker 1: he likely has other photos that might suggest who did

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Speaker 1: this or what the intent was. Am I crazy to

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Speaker 1: you for either of those aspects of analysis?

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm very impressed with your investigative skills. I

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Speaker 4: would say you're spot on. First of all, Comy is

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Speaker 4: playing ignorance right now. Oh, I have no idea. I

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Speaker 4: had no idea. Okay. First of all, Jim Comy, you

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Speaker 4: were the FBI director. You should know better. Anyone that

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Speaker 4: knows anything about crime, you know terminology, you know better.

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Speaker 4: He knew exactly what he was doing. And I think

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Speaker 4: the fact that you first are going to look at

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Speaker 4: the individual as an investigator. You're going to look at

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Speaker 4: the person, and I'm going to look at Jim Comey,

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Speaker 4: and you're immediately going to draw a profile. Jim Comy's

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Speaker 4: not some random guy off the street who was in Butler, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 4: some no name kid. He was the former FBI director, Okay.

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Speaker 4: And then you're going to look at his track record.

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Speaker 4: What is his relationship to President Trump? Forty seven? Okay?

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Speaker 4: He got fired by President Trump in May of twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 4: His ego has been bruised so badly and he has

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Speaker 4: never recovered from that. That firing was absolutely justified. But again,

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Speaker 4: he is the former FBI director and his track record

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Speaker 4: is that he was fired and that he's actually said

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Speaker 4: that President Trump is a threat to America. He believes

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Speaker 4: that Trump is a danger to our country. The chance

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Speaker 4: of this being a coincidence is absolutely zero. And again,

657
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: as an agent, you're going to go in, Yeah, You're

658
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: going to gather all of the evidence. You're gonna look

659
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 4: at what he did, did he take the picture, how

660
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: did that shell formation occur? The Secret Service will be

661
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: visiting his house. You have to remember Secret Service falls

662
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: under the Department of Homeland Security, which is Christy Nomes Realm. Obviously,

663
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: Cash Puttel and the FBI will be there to provide

664
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Speaker 4: any support necessary. I think it is fair at this

665
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: point that this is fully investigated. I think that Jim Comey,

666
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: for too many years has skated by on things and

667
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: you know, gotten right up to the edge. He doesn't

668
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 4: know when to stop. He likes to be in the spotlight.

669
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: He likes the attention, and he doesn't have a plan

670
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 4: to be in the spotlight. He just likes to create problems,

671
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: and he's creating problems for himself right now. I know

672
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: that he has a book that's coming out. Maybe he

673
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 4: thought it would be a good move to have some

674
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 4: you know, media bullets. If anything, this is to be

675
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 4: disastrous for his media appearances. This is going to hurt

676
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: him drastically. But again, from an investigative perspective, I do

677
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 4: think the Secret Service is going to delve into this

678
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: quite deep, especially considering the fact that President Trump has

679
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: already had two assascination attempts on him, and they do

680
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: they take that rhetoric very seriously. And I've worked closely

681
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: with the Secret Service. Do I think that he's definitely

682
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 4: going to be prosecuted. You know, that's up to the

683
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Speaker 4: agents and the prosecutors. It is very difficult to prove,

684
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: you know, some of these threat cases in intent. But again,

685
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: for him to say he didn't know, he absolutely knew.

686
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: He knew. He don't just stumble across a shell formation

687
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: on the beach and then you take a picture of

688
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: it and you choose to post it on your social media.

689
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 4: That quite insulting to the American people and frankly to

690
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 4: the law enforcement agency that he used to be the

691
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: director of And again, let me just note he was

692
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: not respected at the FBI. He was disgraceful, and he

693
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: has recently talked about potential threats against public services. I

694
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 4: believe this was a few months ago. You know, there's

695
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: these ongoing threats and pull workers in the election, but

696
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: yet you choose to post this photo. And then he says, oh,

697
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. You know eighty six implied violence.

698
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: How does everyone else know this but not you? And

699
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 4: so again, I think he's he's definitely in some hot

700
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 4: water right now, and I think it's catching up to him.

701
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 4: He is skated by for so many years on things

702
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 4: that were just inappropriate. He has never been federally charged

703
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: or charged with anything. Again, I'm not saying I think

704
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: a charge is going to come of this, but I

705
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 4: do think a very thorough investigation and a reasonable prosecutor

706
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: will give it a very good look and see what

707
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Speaker 4: they've got.

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Speaker 3: So, Nicole, I don't know how this is going to go, right,

709
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Speaker 3: I don't know how this is going to go. But

710
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: certainly there's a possibility here that Komi can go full

711
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: Tapper and his book could be if I rigged the

712
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: whole Russia collusion thing. This is how I did it,

713
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: and then you know, put it forward for everybody so

714
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: that we could all see there out and say, so, wait,

715
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Speaker 3: are you Are you saying that you're responsible for that

716
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: or are you? Because apparently that's how the Democrats roll

717
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: these days. They do a really bad thing and then

718
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: they write a book truth telling about the bad thing

719
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: that they did. But let me ask you about the

720
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Speaker 3: FBI and what's going on internally there to degree that

721
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Speaker 3: you're hearing from former colleagues who are are still inside

722
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Speaker 3: the bureau. I know Cash, Mattel, I know Clan. I

723
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: both know Cash and both know Dan Bongino. These are

724
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Speaker 3: very competent people. They're patriots. Deputy Director Bonino has been

725
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: pretty regularly updating everybody with some of what they are

726
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: up to internally. Can you give us any insight into

727
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: how the FBI is being cleaned up and what is

728
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: going on over there now that this administration finally is

729
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 3: in a position to do something about all the deep

730
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Speaker 3: state Shenanigan's corruption and malfeasans that we have seen.

731
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Speaker 4: Right, So again, going back to the original statement that

732
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: I made on air with y'all, you know, for me

733
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen julyfe at the twenty sixteen is when I

734
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: started seeing the very deep corruption. This corruption did not

735
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: start overnight. We're now in twenty twenty five. This has

736
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: been going on for a very long time. And Director

737
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Speaker 4: Patel has a lot of work cut out for him.

738
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Speaker 4: You know, I myself am working on a book right

739
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: now and just laying out all the reasons when I

740
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: was making the decision to leave and to walk away.

741
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just overwhelming, one thing after another after

742
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: another for another. And as you come in as the

743
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: FBI director, first you have to get up to speed

744
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: on the organization itself. He has to determine who can

745
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 4: I trust here, who is legitimate and who is part

746
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 4: of the problem. Like I've said, there's two fbis. FBI

747
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: one are the good folks doing the good work on

748
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 4: its hard workers. FBI two deep corruption problematic and they

749
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: need to be you know, gotten rid of. And I

750
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: think the goal for Director Paateel is to make it

751
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 4: one FBI. But he's got to determine where are the

752
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: underlying issues. And I think he started at the top,

753
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 4: right on the seventh floor. It's the executive management. Those

754
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 4: individuals were all you know, they are all gone and

755
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 4: he's brought in new people. That's a very good first

756
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: step looking at each individual field office. The special agent

757
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: in charge of all the fifty five field offices around

758
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 4: the country, he's looking at every single one, and then

759
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 4: you've got to go under that layer the assistant special

760
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: Agents in charge. Then you have to go under that

761
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: layer the supervisory special agents, and then you get down

762
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: to the field agents. So I think what he's doing

763
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: is taking the overwhelming problems. For example, like we've spoken before,

764
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: the kneelers to you know, the BLM protesters, they got

765
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 4: promotions that is unacceptable. Those people have been moved out

766
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: to other assignments. And you know Elvis Chan, who is

767
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: heavily involved with big tech collusion out of the San

768
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: Francisco field office. There's other individuals that I know are

769
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: being you know, looked at, reassigned. And again it's not

770
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: because of you know, oh, well, they support Trump or

771
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: they don't support Trump, or they supported Biden or don't.

772
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: No one cares who you voted for. Did you do

773
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: the right thing with your law enforcement power when you

774
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: were at the FBI. Are you using your power to

775
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 4: push your own Polish political and social agendas, and unfortunately

776
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: a lot of people at the FBI did. And so

777
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: he's got a big task in front of him because

778
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: what he has to do is he has to eradicate

779
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: FBI two people that were doing the wrong thing, abusing

780
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 4: their power. Simultaneously he has to build up FBI one

781
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: because people like myself, an amazing colleague I worked with,

782
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: they're doing good work, and so you've got to continue

783
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 4: to build morale and maintain that while saying FBI two

784
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: you are going to be gone. And so I commend him.

785
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: I think he's doing a very good job for the

786
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: naysayers that say, well, I haven't seen this happen, or

787
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: this or this, this problem didn't happen overnight, in solving

788
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: it isn't going to happen overnight either. But I think

789
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 4: with Cash, Betel, Dan Bongino, the Attorney General, Pam Bondi,

790
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a solid team of individuals and

791
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: they will make the FBI great again.

792
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 6: I truly believe that, Nicole.

793
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: I'm continuing with my Sherlock Holmes moves. Here.

794
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: Here's what Jim Comey actually posted. I wrote after he

795
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Speaker 1: posted I posted earlier a picture of some shells I

796
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: saw today on a beach walk, which I assumed were

797
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: a political message. I didn't realize some folks associate those

798
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: numbers with vie ailance. It never occurred to me, but

799
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: I oppose violence of any kind, so I took the

800
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: post down. Now again, I think the odds that he

801
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to do with these seashells is very,

802
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: very low. But he's acknowledging that he knew the forty seven,

803
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: and he's acknowledging that he knew eighty six meant something bad, right,

804
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: because otherwise it could be eighty six forty seven could

805
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: mean that you're a huge.

806
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: Fan of Trump. What is his real defense here?

807
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: I think Buck maybe right that it's just going to

808
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: be I thought it just meant like Trump stinks. But

809
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: given that he's an FBI agent, what percentage of FBI

810
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: agents in your experience would know that eighty six meant kill?

811
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Speaker 4: Again, I work violent crimes, so I look at things differently.

812
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 4: If you're a white collar agent, that's like crunchy numbers

813
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: and bank records.

814
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: In Oh yeah, that's a good point.

815
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Speaker 1: So first, people who are in the FBI, and he

816
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: would have worked as an FBI super at all different things.

817
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: But yes, for your point, for people who were engaged

818
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: in investigating violent crime, obviously that's different than somebody who's

819
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: an accounting that's trying to figure out whether there's a

820
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, drug running in that way. What percentage of

821
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: people that have been involved in violent crime investigations do

822
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: you think would have recognized that.

823
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Speaker 4: I would say a large majority. I would say a

824
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: large majority because we have to understand and know the lingo,

825
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: the verbage things that people are saying, what that means,

826
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: how you interpret it. But again, it can be noted

827
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: that Jim Comey was never an FBI agent, and that's

828
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 4: very obvious the way that he ran that FBI. He

829
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 4: was a dooj guy through and through, but began to

830
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: play the ignorance cards. He knows very well. You know,

831
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: turning a blind eye is not that's just not a

832
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 4: great defense. And the problem that I have is that

833
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: he's he's gotten away with these types of things for

834
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 4: so long, like such such a gregious activity, and you know,

835
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: it's just it's going to up to him. I think

836
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: my recommendation with Jim Comey is I would suggest you

837
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: stay quiet, keep yourself out of trouble. Trump stop trying

838
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 4: to be in the spotlight. But to play ignorance again,

839
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 4: you've got to look at intent and looking at how

840
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 4: that even transpired. And like you know, Clay mentioned the phones,

841
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: looking at what else might be on there. But again

842
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: I do not think that he did. He did not know.

843
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: I mean, whether it's to kill, to get rid of,

844
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: even to say to get rid of Okay, let's say

845
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: he didn't mean, oh, to kill. He knew it was

846
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 4: a political statement. He clearly admitted that, you know what

847
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 4: the political statement. So what did you think it was

848
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 4: a political statement of oh, to just get rid of Trump? Okay, Well,

849
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: then what does that mean? How is that any different.

850
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Speaker 2: You want to get rid of, particularly you as you

851
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: know that Charrector.

852
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the wake of double assassination attempts, getting rid

853
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: of Trump has quite a different connotation than it might

854
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: have before. Nicole, keep up the good work. We appreciate you,

855
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: and thanks for coming on and breaking all this name

856
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: for us.

857
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: All Right, y'all have a great one, have a great weekend.

858
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: We will for sure.

859
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: That's Nicole Parker, former FBI agent, fantastic at what she does.

860
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: You guys can find her on social media. I'm sure,

861
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: we'll tager for some of those clips. As Sherlock Clay

862
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: is on the case, I'm sorry, I don't buy anything

863
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: that Kobe is saying. All through the South southeast Northeast,

864
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: people getting pounded with rain.

865
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: This week.

866
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: We're about to have some big storms roll through here

867
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: in Nashville potentially as well. If your gutters have leaves, branches,

868
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: or my case, woffleballs and also nerve footballs, you're gonna

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Speaker 7: People have said they've never seen anything like's taking place

889
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Speaker 7: over the last four days in terms of investment, in

890
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Speaker 7: terms of the kind of money coming back into the

891
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Speaker 7: United States and all that money and the money is

892
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Speaker 7: a nice word, but it's really jobs. We have jobs

893
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Speaker 7: that are at a level that we very soon will

894
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Speaker 7: not be able to Nobody can duplicate it. And people

895
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Speaker 7: want to be our partner.

896
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Speaker 8: They want to be investing in the n United States,

897
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Speaker 8: and they weren't doing that. They weren't happy with the

898
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Speaker 8: United States well pretty long period of time. So we've

899
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Speaker 8: done something that I'm very proud of.

900
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Speaker 3: He's managed to have an incredibly successful trip through the

901
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Speaker 3: Middle East, and I think that's really by all accounts

902
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Speaker 3: thus far, at least anybody who's trying to be even

903
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Speaker 3: vaguely honest about it. He has gotten a tremendous amount

904
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Speaker 3: of investment commitments. He has managed to move the ball

905
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Speaker 3: downfield on.

906
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Speaker 2: Negotiations with Iran. He has opened up.

907
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Speaker 3: A pathway for Syria to become a somewhat normal country

908
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Speaker 3: that has a future instead of the war torn nightmare

909
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Speaker 3: that has been for over a decade now. So yeah,

910
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Speaker 3: there's some very good stuff going on. I just want

911
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Speaker 3: to tell you all as I'm sitting here, Jesse Kelly,

912
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Speaker 3: who you all know is an excellent host on Premiere

913
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Speaker 3: Radio Networks in the evening, he has let me know

914
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Speaker 3: that he and Comy are in fact the same height.

915
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Speaker 3: I thought that Jesse might be a little smaller than Comy.

916
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Speaker 3: Turns out no, they're both six foot eight. So he

917
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Speaker 3: didn't want me to get that one wrong. Thank you, Jesse,

918
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Speaker 3: just making sure that is enormous. By the way, like

919
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Speaker 3: this guy, how could you be that tall and not

920
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Speaker 3: be in the NBA? I bet Comy. I bet Comy

921
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Speaker 3: throws a baseball like a girl and shoots a basketball

922
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Speaker 3: like he grew up you know, in Siberia or something.

923
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Speaker 2: Well, actually they may be pretty good at basketball these days.

924
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Speaker 3: But anyway, Yeah, that's where we are on the Mid

925
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Speaker 3: East trip for Trumpet's going very well. Things are really

926
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Speaker 3: starting to click with this administration. Hopefully the Big Beautiful Bill.

927
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Speaker 3: That's not the official name, is it.

928
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Speaker 2: It might be. I don't know it's Trump it could be.

929
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Speaker 3: I mean, if they can call the Biden team can

930
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Speaker 3: call the Inflation Reduction Act, something that doesn't reduce inflation

931
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Speaker 3: at all, if anything makes it worse, I think we

932
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Speaker 3: called the Big Beautiful Bill. Senator Ram Paul who was

933
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Speaker 3: with us a few days ago, this has cut twelve.

934
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Speaker 3: He is not so thrilled about the Big Beautiful Bill

935
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Speaker 3: when it comes to the cuts though. Let's take a

936
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Speaker 3: look at this plate twelve.

937
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Speaker 9: The problem is it's asking conservatives like myself to raise

938
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Speaker 9: the debt ceiling five trillion dollars.

939
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Speaker 3: That's a that's historic.

940
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Speaker 9: No one's ever raised the debt celling that much. It

941
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Speaker 9: will be a record for Congress to raise the debt

942
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Speaker 9: five trillion dollars. But also an indicates that this year

943
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Speaker 9: the deficit will be over two trillion, but it means

944
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Speaker 9: they're anticipating close to three trillion for the next year.

945
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Speaker 9: It's really a slap in the face that those of

946
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Speaker 9: us who are excited about Elon Musk and Doze and

947
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Speaker 9: all the cuts. Where are the cuts? If the cuts

948
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Speaker 9: are real, why are we going to borrow five trillion?

949
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Speaker 2: I have been asking the same thing.

950
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Speaker 3: I had so much hope for Doze, and I think

951
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Speaker 3: Elon has shown a lot of what is absurd within

952
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Speaker 3: the government. But there has to be action taken by

953
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Speaker 3: those in a position of power in government to do

954
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Speaker 3: something about it, to get to those cuts. This is

955
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Speaker 3: about It's not just Center Ram Paul who is concerned

956
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Speaker 3: about this bill. Senator Ron Johnson, this is thirteen. He's

957
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Speaker 3: a little bit unhappy with it.

958
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Speaker 2: Play it.

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Speaker 10: My calculations were going to actually increase the debt, so

960
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 10: that that's we're going to go from thirty seven trillion

961
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 10: dollars in debt to over sixty trillion dollars in debt

962
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Speaker 10: over the next ten years. It's completely unsustainable. So we've

963
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Speaker 10: got to get this under control. But give the president

964
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Speaker 10: the border funding, extend current tax saw, take an automatic

965
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Speaker 10: tax increase off table, make sure we don't default under debt.

966
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Speaker 10: We could have already had that done, but now we're

967
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Speaker 10: into this very complex, very difficult negotiation on one big,

968
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Speaker 10: beautiful Bill. This is not getting the job done again.

969
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Speaker 10: I ran in twenty ten because we were more jarre

970
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Speaker 10: at Shildon's future. We were fourteen trillion dollars in debt.

971
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Speaker 10: Now we're thirty seven trillion dollars in debt and Republicans

972
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Speaker 10: aren't fixing the problem, We're exacerbating it. That's unacceptable.

973
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not what I like to hear.

974
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Speaker 3: And you know, we have Senators Paul and Johnson on

975
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Speaker 3: the show regularly. I think they are there are two

976
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Speaker 3: of the best we have on our team. It's been

977
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Speaker 3: a while, you know, we have it at Ted in

978
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Speaker 3: a while. Can we reach out to Ted? Reach out

979
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Speaker 3: to Ted's team? Senator Cruz, I just feel like it's

980
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: been a while. We got to check in on him,

981
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Speaker 3: see how he's doing. And he's been busy. But you know,

982
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Speaker 3: we've got we've got these great senators who I think

983
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Speaker 3: are saying what needs to be said on this one.

984
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Speaker 3: And here's what I would offer up though, where should

985
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Speaker 3: the cuts be? It's one thing to talk about cuts

986
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Speaker 3: and be the principled person. And I'm not casting any

987
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Speaker 3: aspersions one way or the other here, but to be

988
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Speaker 3: the principal person who says we need to make more cuts.

989
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Speaker 2: Tell me what those cuts are.

990
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Speaker 3: We have to know what they're what they are if

991
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Speaker 3: we're going to hold anybody in the Congress to account

992
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Speaker 3: for doing it.

993
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Speaker 2: And with Doge, you know the cuts are.

994
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Speaker 3: Even if they do what we've seen so far, I

995
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Speaker 3: think it might be in the hundreds of billions, which

996
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Speaker 3: would be very nice. But if we're raising the debt

997
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Speaker 3: ceiling five trillion dollars, we got to figure out where's

998
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Speaker 3: all this money going and where can we pull back

999
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Speaker 3: some of the money. We don't want to do tax increase.

1000
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Speaker 3: This is of course fine, Well what are we going

1001
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Speaker 3: to do? That means there has to be less spending somewhere.

1002
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Speaker 6: You know.

1003
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Speaker 3: This is where I get a little bit frustrated because

1004
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Speaker 3: even among conservatives, even among people on the right, we

1005
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Speaker 3: talk in circles on this. And this is why every

1006
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Speaker 3: time there's a debt ceiling fight, I mean, this is

1007
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Speaker 3: the most boring thing. This is brinksmanship with no brink

1008
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Speaker 3: and they're gonna raise the debt ceiling and it's not

1009
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Speaker 3: gonna change, you know.

1010
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Speaker 2: Oh there's gonna be a default. No, there's not.

1011
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Speaker 3: This is where we have to really get our hands dirty.

1012
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Speaker 3: Doge is about efficiency and finding fraud and inefficiencies in

1013
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: Government's very important. But that's a I think best case

1014
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Speaker 3: hundreds of billions of dollars of cuts. Now we should

1015
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Speaker 3: clearly make those cuts. And so when Senator Paul says

1016
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Speaker 3: where are the cuts? I agree?

1017
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Speaker 2: But what are the other.

1018
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Speaker 3: Cuts that can be made so that we don't go

1019
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Speaker 3: a trillion or two every year for the next five

1020
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Speaker 3: or ten years in today deeper into debt.

1021
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Speaker 2: What are we going to do? You know, this is

1022
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Speaker 2: where we get into the all right.

1023
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Speaker 3: I mean, if it really is just that we can't

1024
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Speaker 3: you know, we need to spend basically what we're spending

1025
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Speaker 3: on the military, because that's very important, and we're not

1026
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Speaker 3: going to do any substantial cutch to the military, which

1027
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Speaker 3: I'm not advocating for. And then we can't touch any entitlements,

1028
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Speaker 3: you know what we're saying, and I mean even reform,

1029
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Speaker 3: not touching the entire Like if someone's getting their Medicare now,

1030
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Speaker 3: that doesn't get that doesn't change. But if you don't

1031
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Speaker 3: change it to some you know, to something else for

1032
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Speaker 3: the generation that's you know, years below that or decades

1033
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Speaker 3: below that. What we're really saying is we know we

1034
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Speaker 3: can't afford this, but we're going to keep spending it anyway.

1035
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Speaker 3: And if that's where we are as a country, I

1036
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Speaker 3: think it's just better for us to say that out

1037
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Speaker 3: loud and understand it so we can stop wasting time

1038
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Speaker 3: pretending like we're going to reign in spending. Because if

1039
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Speaker 3: we can't reign in spending right now with Trump and

1040
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: the team around him that he has and with the

1041
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: mandate that he got in this election, because Congress just

1042
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Speaker 3: won't do it, when is Congress ever going to do it? Well,

1043
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: the answer is they won't until it's too late, when

1044
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: there's a true financial catastrophe and a true reset, which

1045
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: would be very painful and not something we would really

1046
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Speaker 3: want to contemplate. We don't know why it will happen,

1047
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Speaker 3: but I just want there to be greater honesty on this.

1048
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Speaker 3: I mean Speaker Johnson on the other side, this is fourteen.

1049
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Speaker 3: Speaker Johnson is very pleased with this legislation, So play

1050
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Speaker 3: that clip.

1051
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Speaker 11: This will be one of the most consequential pieces of

1052
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Speaker 11: legislation ever passed by the United States Congress. It is large,

1053
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Speaker 11: it is comprehensive, and it deals with reconciling the budget

1054
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 11: in a way that will be fiscally responsible. We're going

1055
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Speaker 11: to slash taxes, including on tips, over time, soci security

1056
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Speaker 11: for seniors and job creators, restore American energy dominance as

1057
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Speaker 11: you've heard, secure our border, and deport illegal aliens. We're

1058
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Speaker 11: going to eliminate waste for auden abuse, return to peace

1059
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Speaker 11: through strength, and reduce spending, all at the same time.

1060
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Speaker 11: And I put reconciliation on an aggressive time table. Back

1061
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Speaker 11: in January, I said that we would try to do

1062
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Speaker 11: this as quickly as possible. We're still on target to

1063
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Speaker 11: hit that Memorial deadline, which people balked out when we

1064
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Speaker 11: first said it. The American people are counting on us

1065
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Speaker 11: to get this done and get it done quickly.

1066
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Speaker 3: All right, let's let's you know, team Ali, Let's get

1067
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Speaker 3: let's get Senator Ron john or Ran Paul whoever I

1068
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Speaker 3: think we had rand on most recently. I don't know

1069
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Speaker 3: like either of them. And then let's invite Speaker Johnson.

1070
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Speaker 3: He'll probably say he's busy being Speaker of the House

1071
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: and getting this through. But let's let's see if we

1072
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Speaker 3: get them on next week, before the next two weeks

1073
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Speaker 3: before Memorial Day, because I want to ask these questions

1074
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Speaker 3: because right now there's just it's like everyone's talking past

1075
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Speaker 3: each other.

1076
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Speaker 2: Rand Paul saying, where are the cuts? Okay, where are they?

1077
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Speaker 3: Speaker Johnson says on the House And I understand they

1078
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Speaker 3: have to reconcile these, right. I know it's different bills,

1079
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Speaker 3: and they have there's a process. But everybody should know

1080
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Speaker 3: what are the cuts that they want or what the

1081
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Speaker 3: cuts that exist are in whether it's in their very

1082
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: whether it's in the House or the Senate version. So

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Speaker 3: I want to know where this is and and what's

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Speaker 3: going on here. I want to ask Speaker Johnson, Okay,

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Speaker 3: are their dough tell us? And then, by the way,

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00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: maybe the whole plan is they're gonna tell us next

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00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: week and they're still working it out. That's very possible.

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Speaker 3: But I do think we should know because now is

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Speaker 3: the time to do good things that really matter, especially

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Speaker 3: for the long term. It's now, it's not in a year.

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Speaker 3: It's not when people are thinking about the midterms. It's

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00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: certainly not in you know, three years, when we're not

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00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: going to have a President Trump to lead the Republican

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00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 3: Party anymore, because he's going to be in the in

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00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: the end of his second term. So you know, and

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00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean lead the Republican Party in terms of pushing

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00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: for this kind of legislation and stuff, and maybe he'll

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00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: still be pushing, but it's different. As we all know,

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00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 3: when a president is in the the end of his term,

1100
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: the political capital that he has is not quite the same.

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00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 3: So my point being the urgency of now now is

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00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: when this has to happen and we have to see

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00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: the kinds of structural changes to spending that will begin

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00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: to if we all agree there is a problem and

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00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 3: we all agree it has to be fixed. And I

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Speaker 3: think everybody who is center all the way to the

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00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: right here and even maybe now not demo Democrats just

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00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 3: want to spend us into oblivion.

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Speaker 2: I really believe that.

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Speaker 3: I think that they've just decided, you know what, smoke them,

1111
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: if you got them, spend it. If you don't have it,

1112
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: who cares, Let's just go for it. I think that's

1113
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: the ethos of their party now, which is the let's

1114
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 3: just burn it all down and have fun while it's

1115
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: burning approach to things. You know, this is the Santa

1116
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: Claus is real. Everyone gets stuff, it's not going to

1117
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: be paid for, and let's just see what happens. So

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00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: it is on Republicans to live in reality, just like

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00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 3: we have to on so many other issues, to live

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Speaker 3: in the fiscal and monetary and mathematical reality of let's

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00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: do something about this. And I just want to see

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00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: what that is. And there needs to be greater clarity.

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00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 3: We're hearing have the big beautiful bill. We need to

1124
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: have greater clarity about what is going to be in this,

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00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 3: you know, and what is going to be cut, what

1126
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: is going to be improved, what's going to get better here?

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Speaker 3: Because this I think that this is the best spending

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Speaker 3: bill you are likely to see, or rather, this is

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Speaker 3: our best chance for a really good spending bill in

1130
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: Trump's second term. Right now, political capital at its peak.

1131
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: Look what Trump is doing, Look where the markets are,

1132
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: all the investment that's coming in. It only gets harder

1133
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 3: after this, It only gets harder because members of Congress

1134
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: are going to be thinking about their jobs, their position

1135
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: and all this, and they're going to be hedging, you know,

1136
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 3: the ones that are a little weakened the knees over

1137
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Speaker 3: what to do. So now is the time. So we'll

1138
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: try to get more clarity on that in the next

1139
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: week or two. I just want to let you know

1140
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: we are following that here and looking into these versions

1141
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: of the bills, and it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's also a Democrat. You're never going to have a

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00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: Democrat party.

1144
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: That is more flat on its ass than it is

1145
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: right now, at least, I mean, I don't think realistically

1146
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: you can assume that's going to happen again for a

1147
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 3: very long time. The Democrats are a non factor except

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00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,920
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1149
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,640
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1150
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 3: are a non factor in messaging opposition to what's going

1151
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 3: on here. So the time is now, and I think

1152
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: this is really important. And you know, you got Trump

1153
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 3: abroad racking up all these wins and doing what he's doing.

1154
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Speaker 3: All right, Congress, Let's let's get some clarity here, Let's

1155
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: get on board, and let's have the big beautiful bill

1156
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