1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Can I am six forty you're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: We are on every. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Day from three until six, now three until six, and 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: you can hear the podcast now posted shortly after six 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: John Cobel's show on demand and you could hear everything 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: that you missed. Conway's coming up from six to ten 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: every night. Roger Bailey's is with us again. He is 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: the one of the lead attorneys for the Palisades of 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: fire victims, thousands of them, and they have won a 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: couple of big rounds in court. And we're going to 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: talk with Roger now because it's been quite a bit 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: of good news. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: Roger, how are you good? 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: John, Good evening. It's a little odd to say good 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 3: evening to you. It's after five o'clock, but. 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's a little odd and it's very familiar 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: at the same time. So let's talk about your latest 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: win in court early round regarding a particular issue. Tell 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: us what the latest finding was by the judge. 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: Sure, So, we've been litigating this case for over a year. 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: We filed the case back on the thirteenth of January 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and over the course of that year, 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: we heard from the city and the state that the 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: case was meritless. I think the state even called it ludicrous. 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: But as we developed the evidence, we knew that we 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: had something. And then the city and the state both 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: filed request with the court to dismiss the entire case, 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: and the judge held a hearing last week and today 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: issued rulings effectively denying the city's request to dismiss the 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: case and the states request to dismiss the case. So 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: the Palisades case will go forward full steam ahead. 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: And so what is the next step in the process. 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Now that they have been unable to get the lawsuit 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: thrown out, they're going to have to deal with it. 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: Where are you going with it? 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: Good? Yeah, explain sure. 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 3: So the next phase will be what we call discovery. 39 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: We've been permitted to take a couple of limited depositions 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: of some state park reps and some firefighters, but now 41 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: full blown discovery will open up and we're going to 42 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: be able to dig deeper than we've been able to 43 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 3: get even in the first twelve months. So now we're 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: going to start peeling back the layers of the onion 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: and really getting to the heart of why this happened. 46 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: Who do you want to talk to the most? 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you've talked to some firefighters, you talk to 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: some park, state park employees. Who do you really want 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: to get to Who are the blockbuster witnesses you wanted 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: to boast. 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: I want to talk to Karen Bass, that's a given. 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: I want to talk to some of the other leadership. 53 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: I even think Newsome ought to be deposed. And he 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: came out publicly in the spring of last year and 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: said that he had pre deployed one hundred and ten 56 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: fire engines to LA before the fire, and deployed twenty 57 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: five hundred National Guard troops. And when we really dug 58 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: into that, it turned out not a single engine was 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: sent to the Palisades before the January seventh fire, even 60 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: though there was a small eighth a brush fire Aanuary first. 61 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: So why were state resources not pre deployed to state 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: land where there had just been a fire. Had they 63 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: done that, there would have been no Palisades fire. So 64 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: I want to talk to all of them. We want 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: to talk to leadership. I mean, you know, if we 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: talked to many of the so called boots on the ground, 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: the firefighters that were there, some of the state park 68 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: reps were there. Now it's time to hear from the leadership. 69 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: How and why was this allowed to happen? It was avoidable, 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: and yet we saw seven thousand structures destroyed, twelve lives lost, 71 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: all because of the government's failure. 72 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to put up some 73 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of legal immunity to dodge the depositions Because Bass 74 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: hired fifteen lawyers so she wouldn't have to testify as 75 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: to where billions of dollars in homeless money disappeared. That 76 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: was in a civil lawsuit and she never did testify. 77 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Can she pull something like that here? 78 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: I expect that that will be attempted again. But look, 79 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: the bottom line is these are elected officials. The public 80 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: has a right to hear from them under oath, and 81 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: there's no reason not to. You know, one of the 82 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: bases of this last round of challenges by the city 83 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: and the state, which the judge just overruled, was immunity. 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: We're the government, you can't sue us. The judge said, no, 85 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: these cases absolutely can go forward. There is no immunity, 86 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: and I expect that when we want to start deposing 87 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: some of the leadership whose accountability to the public. We're 88 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: going to have all kinds of excuses and deflections and 89 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: reasons why they shouldn't be the post. But we need 90 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: to hear from these people, and we need to hear 91 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: from them in the context of an under oath deposition, 92 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: not a press conference, not a press release. Let's hear 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: from them in a deposition. 94 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'd love to know. Since there was 95 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: a fire in January first, and there were a week's 96 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: worth of warnings of extreme fire extreme wind danger coming, 97 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: did Karen Bass or anybody convene any meetings to prepare, 98 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: to pre deploy, to have a kind of a strategy. 99 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: Was there an all hands on deck meeting where department 100 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: heads got together, because she didn't really have a deputy 101 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: in charge of dealing with a situation like this after 102 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: she flew off to Africa. Her number two deputy mayor, 103 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: who normally only covers fire department issues, he was on 104 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: house arrest in his apartment for calling in a fake 105 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: bomb threat. And I don't think there was anybody else assigned. 106 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: From what we know thus far, between the first of 107 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: January and the seventh, seventh of January, we had all 108 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: the warning signs, we had the Lockman Fire, which started 109 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: on the first of January. The LAFD left on the 110 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 3: second to January, but then we had these reports of smoke, 111 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 3: not just on the first of the second, but on 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: the third. The floor is the fifth. We had these 113 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: reports of smoke coming from the state park's land. Then 114 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: we had these red flag warnings. You know, we were 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: going to have an unprecedented Santana wins. So all the 116 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: warning signs were there, and you would expect that the government, 117 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: realizing that these warning signs were present, would convene multiple meetings. 118 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 3: How are we going to prepare for this? What are 119 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: we going to do? Are we going to pre deployed, 120 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: preposition people? And from what we can tell, nothing was done. 121 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: Nothing really was done, no zero meanings. 122 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: That's hard to imagine. Nothing. What about all those reports 123 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: of smoke? 124 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: Were there any smoke reports called in at the time 125 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: or it was discovered later when people started submitting videos. 126 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: Well, we have nine to one to one calls coming 127 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: in on the third of January, that's two days after 128 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: the Lockman fire of reports of smoke. We have drone 129 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: video on the first and second, hiker videos on the 130 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: first and second, and we know that state Park representatives 131 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: were up at the Lochman Fire burned scar up to 132 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: the third when there's still smoke coming out of the ground, 133 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: and so what they should have done is stayed there. 134 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: I don't need somebody to call. Even though they did. 135 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: They should have been up on their land and stayed 136 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: there until they were satisfied there was no more smoke. 137 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: They didn't do any of. 138 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: That knowing that these very powerful winds were coming. 139 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: That's right. 140 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: I mean that, which is basic. 141 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Fire knowledge for people who do this for a living. 142 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 1: They know strong winds can easily whip up a smoldering fire. 143 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: That's right. Even without the winds, there was still smoke 144 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: coming out of the ground, and when you add the winds, 145 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: it was a foregone conclusion that this was going to 146 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: be a rekindle. And by the way, the side of 147 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: the burn scar that remained hot and smoldering was squarely 148 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: on the state land. It's right where to Penga State 149 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: Park and it's right next to the houses up in 150 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: the highlands of the Pacific Palisades. All the warning signs 151 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: were there, and yet they did nothing. It was a 152 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 3: massive government failure. This was avoidable if the government had 153 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: done what it was supposed to do with that is 154 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: protect the public. 155 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: And a lot of people in government too, and a 156 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: lot of different departments and agencies locally and in the state. 157 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's test it's hard to comprehend. I mean 158 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: that you know, the mayor has like one hundred people 159 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: just serving her directly at city Hall, and that none 160 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: of them engaged with the warnings that were going on. 161 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: We were running them every fifteen minutes here on the station. 162 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of people working for the government. I'm curious 163 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: to know what any of them were doing in preparation 164 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: for this sent in a wind event in an area 165 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: where there had been a recent fire and reports of smoke. 166 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: What were they doing? Just nothing? 167 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: It's astonishing, all right, Well, I can't wait. I mean, 168 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: some of the depositions ought to be made public soon, 169 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: right at thirty days off. 170 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: Will March right, that's coming up next week. We'll start 171 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: releasing I think I told you last time I was 172 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: on that the city had preliminarily designated all of the 173 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: firefighter deposition's confidential for the thirty day period. Day earlier, 174 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: said well, we'll review them faster after the last one, 175 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: which I know, I taunted you about last time. They 176 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: said all we needed the full thirty days for everything. 177 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: So they're going to start running out a clock starting 178 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: next week and the last of them will be released 179 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: on March five, So coming up shortly. 180 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: All right, very good, Thanks, thanks so much for coming 181 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: on again. Roger Bailey, one of the lead attorneys for 182 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,479 Speaker 1: all the fire victims in the Palisades. 183 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A sixty. 184 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: Just had Roger Bailey on. So March we're going to 185 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: get some of the depositions finally released to the public, 186 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: and he just came on with us. He's one of 187 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: the lead attorneys for the Palisades fire victims. Because the 188 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: judge in the case, Samantha Jessner, denied requests by the 189 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: City of Los Angeles in the state of California to 190 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: dismiss the lawsuits. They were claiming immunity you can't sue 191 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the government. Well, you can't sue the government and joining 192 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: the lawsuit or filing its own lawsuit. 193 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:08,119 Speaker 2: Malibu. 194 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: City of Malibu is suing California and the City of 195 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and La County and the California Department of 196 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Parks in wreck who chased the LA Fire Department off 197 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: the Lachlan fire site, the LA Department of Order and 198 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Power they had the empty reservoir, the Mountains and Recreation 199 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Conservation Authority, the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancies. They're all getting 200 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: sued because of the fire. And there's a simple line 201 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: they said that the here's the line that the fire 202 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: was not an accident, it was a foreseeable and proximate 203 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: result of unlawful conduct. Yeah, you know what, they should 204 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: be criminal charges. Karen Bass ought to be in prison 205 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: for not putting together a fire fighting plan and shows 206 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: Social Kristin Crowley and Social Genie Cunions as should be 207 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: criminal that you left at one hundred and seventeen million 208 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: gallon reservoir empty. All the entities I listed were blamed 209 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: in the lawsuit for the fire not properly addressing the 210 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: burn score. I can't get over that the damn thing 211 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: was smoking and smoldering in plain sight and people could 212 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: see it. State Parks employees could see it. And Newsom 213 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: did not pre deploy any CalFire engines. And then after 214 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: the fact he claimed he did a compulsive he's a 215 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: compulsive pathological wire And now We've got Eric Swawell praising 216 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Newsom for the way he handled Alta Diana in Pasadena, 217 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: and he's the leading Democrat to be the next governor. 218 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean, jes the conveyor belt of clowns, and they said, 219 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: and we got more here. The indignities don't stop. And 220 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: this is really one of the crucial issues. LA fire victims, 221 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: both in Altadena and the Palisades are saying that the 222 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: insurance companies still won't handle their claims properly, and the 223 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: insurance Commissioner cal fart Lara has done nothing about it. 224 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: You got to go back to last spring, last May, 225 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: when homeowners were complaining that the insurance companies weren't handling 226 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: the claims. So cal fart Lara held a zoom meeting 227 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: and said, well, you got to lodge formal complaints with 228 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: the insurance department. That's how we track and how we monitor, 229 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: and we follow through. But now a year later, many 230 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: homeowners say their promise was empty. The California Department of 231 00:13:54,360 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: Insurance it's not investigating the claims against State Farm. More 232 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: than a dozen homeowners told the Los Angeles Times that 233 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: the department did little to resolve the complaints or prevent 234 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: new problems. Seventy percent of insured Eaton and Palisades fire 235 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: victims are facing delays and denials, according to Joi Chen, 236 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: executive director of the Eaton Fire Survivors Network, this is 237 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: evidence of the failure of this department. This is cal 238 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: Fart Larra's department. 239 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: Again. It's astonishing. 240 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: This guy has been exposed for blowing tens of thousands 241 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: of taxpayer dollars on dozens of trips to exotic places 242 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: all over the world for his own self pleasure. And 243 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: believe me, there's a lot of self pleasure involved. He's 244 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: the one, along with Newsom, who negotiated new insurance rules 245 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: just two months before the fire, and that allowed the 246 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: insurance company to cancel thousands and thousands of policies in 247 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: the Palisades in Altadena. Their policies were canceled and they 248 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: were thrown into the state insurance pool, which is incompetently 249 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: run and pays out relatively little. But that was the 250 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: work of Lara and Newsom. And now here we are 251 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: in February of twenty twenty six, and Lara's insurance department 252 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: still has it resolved nearly all the complaints that had 253 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: been filed. I mean they just the government has just 254 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: shut down. They just refused to do anything. That conversation 255 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: I was just having with Roger Bailey, just going through 256 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: all the employees and all the different departments, knowing a 257 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: fire had broke out on the first, knowing it was 258 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: still smoldering, knowing that heavy winds could whip it up easily, 259 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: knowing about a week's worth of extreme fire danger and 260 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: wind danger warnings, and virtually nobody that Roger could find 261 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: held a meeting, attended a meeting, had a discussion at 262 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: all about what to do if a big fire broke out. 263 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: And the number one place it would have broken out 264 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: was the Palisades. It would have been the Lockmann fire reigniting. 265 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. And Gavin Newsom also didn't 266 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: pre deploy anybody, and he lied about it just and 267 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: there's no consequences. 268 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: Now. 269 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: He was in Germany and he's running for president. Karen 270 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: Pass is running for reelection. 271 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 272 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: six forty. 273 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: Last call for the moistline, which is tomorrow already Tomorrow's 274 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: Friday eight seven seven Moist eighty six eight seven seven 275 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: Moist eighty six. So use the talkback feature on the 276 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: iHeart app. And if you want to follow us at 277 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Radio and social media at John Cobelt Radio. 278 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: And you want to subscribe to our YouTube channel, you 279 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: go to YouTube dot com slash at John Cobelt Show. 280 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash at John Cobelt Show, and we 281 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: put out new videos all the time that you can 282 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: watch Conway up at six o'clock. We just got this 283 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: word from our friend, say Ed Kashani. He's an attorney 284 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: who lost his home in the Palisades fire and he 285 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: actually goes to the DWP meetings. 286 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: He will be on with us tomorrow. 287 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: His news is the DWP is shutting down the reservoir 288 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: for a year. The Santinez Reservoir, the one that was unfilled. 289 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: Well it's going to be offline for a year because 290 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: they're installing a new cover. Now I they're gonna spend 291 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: two point three million dollars, but there's going to be 292 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: no water available in the reservoir for all of twenty 293 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: twenty six. 294 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 3: There. 295 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: They just won't give up. They don't need a cover 296 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: on the reservoir. It's meant to put out fires, they 297 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: climb all it's for drinking water. Well, there's gonna be 298 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: no drinking water in twenty twenty six. Of course, there 299 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: aren't too many people who have homes to drink water in. 300 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: But even before the fire destruction, you didn't need that 301 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: reservoir for drinking water. Obviously it was drained, there was 302 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: nothing in it, and people were still consuming water all 303 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: over the Palisades. This is complete nonsense and two point 304 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: three million dollars for an unnecessary cover. We'll talk to 305 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: him tomorrow to three o'clock. City of Los Angeles, And 306 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: it took until now for this. There's a proposal that 307 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: the city council moved forward on Tuesday. LA city officials. 308 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: One of my favorite words, may be empowered to remove 309 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: homeless encampments from hillside areas at severe risk of fire. 310 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: They couldn't do that. They couldn't legally get rid of 311 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: homeless encampments on hillsides that have a lot of brushs 312 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: that are susceptible to a high risk of fire. They 313 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: couldn't do this. 314 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: They have to get a proposal, and it just passed now. 315 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: In fact, there's something called very high fire severity zones 316 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: in the Santa Monica and Verdugo Mountains. And only now 317 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: is the city going to be allowed to remove hazardous material, 318 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: including encampments, from private property in the hillside areas. 319 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: There have been people living. 320 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: In those encampments for many years and the city did nothing. 321 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: And then you had the massive Palisades fire in Altadena 322 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: fire and they still did nothing. 323 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: They have to change the municipal code. 324 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: Don't you can't you declare? Isn't it already legally declare 325 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: an emergency threat? There's a fire emergency threat, you can 326 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: just go in there, and those people have no right 327 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: to be living there. Private property? Who's private property? I 328 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: don't think people are renting out their hillsides. It's just 329 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to reach the hillsides, and I suppose these 330 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: the property owners can't do much about it. It can 331 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: take weeks to determine property ownership and obtain necessary sign 332 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: offs from the owners to access the property. So you 333 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: let the people continue living in the encampment with their 334 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: pro pane, with their propane grills and they're smoking cigarettes. 335 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: You know who voted against it, Hugo Soda Martinez, one 336 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: of the communists on the La Council Democratic Socialists of 337 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: America member. 338 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: He is voting against evicting. 339 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: Dangerous homeless people from high fire high fire hillside zones. 340 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: He said he was worried homeless people would end up 341 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: getting shuffled around. I don't want this used as a 342 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: tool to push the homeless from one side of the 343 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: street to the other side of the street. They have 344 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: to be pushed off the hillsides. These are very high 345 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: fire severity zones. Hugo Soda Martinez does not care how 346 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: many people die in a fire. Apparently he hasn't seen 347 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: enough people die in a fire. Sodo Martinez said he 348 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't vote for the proposal until the city develops a 349 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: definition of what. 350 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: A fire hazard is. He doesn't know what a fire 351 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: hazard is. 352 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: So it's a crazed homeless guy on meth with an 353 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: open flame grill smoking cigarettes on a windy day. 354 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 2: How about that? And another fire story? Last one for now. 355 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: La County prosecutors are investigating whether Edison should be criminally 356 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: prosecuted for the Eaten fire. That's the one that killed 357 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: nineteen people in Altadena, and the CEO of Southern California 358 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: Edison says that they're leading theory of the cause of 359 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: the fire is that a century old transmission line somehow 360 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: re energized and sparked it. It's a line that hadn't 361 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: been used in fifty years, but they never they never 362 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: removed the line because they thought, well, maybe in the future. 363 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: This is after fifty years of not using it, and 364 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: they think it's somehow well got re energized during the 365 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: windstorm and that's what caused the Altadena fire. You have 366 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: a wire for fifty years that hasn't been used, and 367 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: transmission lines that are left idle have been known to smark. 368 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: Wildfires happened in Sonoma County in twenty nineteen. Three hundred 369 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: and seventy four homes were destroyed. 370 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: Same thing. 371 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: Edison fell behind in the maintenance of its transmission system 372 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: and they decided not to shut down the transmission lines 373 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: running through Eaton Canyon because it didn't meet the company's 374 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: criteria for turning off the lines. And then they went 375 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: they killed nineteen people. You know what, those people involved 376 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: in all these fires, whether it's so cal Edison executives 377 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: or Karen Bass or Kristan Crowley or Jennis Connunias, they 378 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: need to go to prison. If you saw public officials 379 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: and you saw energy executives in prison for extended periods, 380 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: let's say twenty years. 381 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: This nonsense would stop. 382 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: Guarantee the next high wind high fire warning in Los Angeles, 383 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: the mayor and the fire and the fire chief would 384 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: hold a meeting on how to prepare guaranteed. The successor 385 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: of Jennie Kinoniez would fill up the reservoir right to 386 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: the brim. All you need to do is put these 387 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: people in prison for their criminal actions and their criminal negligence. 388 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: More coming up. 389 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am 390 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: six forty. 391 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: We're now on three to six. You heard Conway say 392 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 1: he's on six to ten. New show in the lineup 393 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: is Monks and Merril, Michael Monks and Chris Merrill from 394 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: noon to three. And if you miss anything on the 395 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: show today, you're all confused because the time changes. We're 396 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: going to release the podcast now right after the show, 397 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: shortly after six o'clock, and you can catch up. The 398 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: billionaire tax which these healthcare unions are pushing. Bernie Sanders 399 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: was in town. This is about just absolutely stealing and confiscating. 400 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: It's not an income tax, a sales tax. And property tax. 401 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: This is just gun to your head. What are you worth? 402 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: Give me five percent? Why? I don't know why. 403 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: It's this is the obsession now against wealthy people, and 404 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: some rich people are moving out. And the key date 405 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: to do this was December thirty first of twenty twenty five, 406 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: because if this proposition makes it to the ballot and passes, 407 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: the taxings are going to be retroactive to January first 408 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. And now it looks like Steven 409 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: Spielberg announced on January first that he and his family 410 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: moved to New York, and he's saying, well, it is 411 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: to be closer to the wife's family. Yeah, right, you 412 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: always use family as a cover. You know, I pay 413 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: the five percent wealth tax. They make you add up 414 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: the wealth of all your property, everything you own, if 415 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: you have artwork, expensive cars, your stocks, your bonds, the 416 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: crypto everything. You add it all up, and then you 417 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: give Gavin News some five percent so he can flush 418 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: it down the communal toilet. You know who else is 419 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: looking to buy property now in Florida, Mark Zuckerberg. He's 420 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: getting out, so Steven Spielberg and Mark Zuckerberg. Spielberg, of 421 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: course contributed millions and millillions of dollars to all these 422 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: left wing politicians until they raised his taxes potentially too high, 423 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: and now he's out of here. Yes, I'm sure it's 424 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: to be near the wife's family, because most guys want 425 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: to be near the wife's family. 426 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: That's very common. 427 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: I heard some idiot prattling today, probably a representative of 428 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: the Union net. Well, the wealthy have to pay their 429 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: fair share. Well, the top one percent in this state 430 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: pay forty percent of the income tax, so that that 431 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: fair share nonsense is is completely bogus, utterly bogus. 432 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 2: You know who else would prattle about fair share? 433 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: Remember Elizabeth Warren, she ran for president senator from Massachusetts. 434 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: She announced that she's endorsing for governor here Katie Porter. 435 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: But missus potato head, missus potato Head is being endorsed 436 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: by the fake Indian. Were are the odds to that. 437 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Katie Porter's her support is collapsed because it became clear 438 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: that she's insane and she's the one who dumped a 439 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: pot of boiling potatoes on her now ex husband's head. 440 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: Her support has dropped to under ten percent. But boy, 441 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: the last person you want to come and endor she 442 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: was Elizabeth Warren. Those are just two lunatics. Yes, I'm 443 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: telling you, I'll tell you more tomorrow. I'm out of time. 444 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: We've got Conway up. 445 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: Next. 446 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: Podcast is getting released in minutes, and we'll be back tomorrow. 447 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: Between three and six, Michael Grocer has the news live 448 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: in the Canfi twenty four hour Newsroom. 449 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: You've been listening to The John Cobelt Show podcast. 450 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 451 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: six forty from three to six pm every Monday through Friday, 452 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio 453 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 4: App KFI Am six More stimulating talk