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Speaker 1: You live with a Michigan Wolverine, Dan.

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Speaker 1: The schedule for Michigan is beautiful. Oh, it's beautiful. It's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's my bigger picture question about Michigan. And this

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Speaker 2: The attention to detail from Jim Harbaugh, right, he has

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Speaker 1: I understand why you ask that question. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Now, I know, but we have a we have a

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Speaker 2: Not rest on his laurels. But there was a part

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Speaker 2: This was my goal to break through, beat Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: We'll see. I don't buy it when he says that.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Ohio State. Let's go to Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Because I think you alluded to the fact that Jackson

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Speaker 1: This is not a complicated preview to do. The defense

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Speaker 1: beginning and the ending of the season that killed Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: They need to improve, though, they need to improve, and

435
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day knew it. That's why his solution was to

436
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Speaker 1: go out and hire Jim Knowles. As you said, they

437
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Speaker 1: bring him over from Oklahoma State. He's a home run higher.

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Speaker 1: I say that in all bold home run higher. You

439
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Speaker 1: will be delighted to learn. As he said that he

440
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Speaker 1: does run the aggressive attacking style. Defense of his nickname

441
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Speaker 1: is ster blitz a Lot. It's very literal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's my nickname. But yes, you're not the

443
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Speaker 2: only one who calls him that. There are other people

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Speaker 2: out really. Oh yeah, no, it's a real name. It's

445
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Speaker 2: a real nickname. Well I think I did. Somebody come

446
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Speaker 2: up with it before I did. I don't think that's me.

447
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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Sir blitz a Lot is definitely something that you can

449
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Speaker 1: find if you run a Google on it. Because I did.

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Speaker 1: Other people have called him sir blitz a Lot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what does that mean?

452
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Speaker 1: What does that mean? Front seven is going to play

453
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Speaker 1: much more of a downhill, aggressive attacking style defense, guys

454
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Speaker 1: are going to play tighter out wide. He did this

455
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Speaker 1: wonderfully at Oklahoma State, especially last season, without making them

456
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Speaker 1: more susceptible to big plays, which is always that tentative

457
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Speaker 1: balance you're walking. If you're trying to blitz or be

458
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Speaker 1: a little bit more aggressive upfront and playing tighter out wide,

459
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Speaker 1: you got to have the man power to be able

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Speaker 1: to pull that off, and he did last year at

461
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma's he will again at Ohio State. Excuse me, because

462
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Speaker 1: it's just talent up and down the roster. If that works,

463
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Speaker 1: we're cooking with gas here right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so here, here's the question to me with the

465
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Speaker 2: defense though, so does Ohio State have And we don't

466
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Speaker 2: need to go into the entirety of the depth chart,

467
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Speaker 2: But what both Michigan and Oregon were able to do

468
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Speaker 2: was say, I only their linebackers are very good, right

469
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Speaker 2: that in the open field. And if you look at

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Speaker 2: what Oklahoma State was able to do last I think

471
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Speaker 2: it was Malcolm Rodriguez who was the star of that

472
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Speaker 2: defense at linebacker. Is they had dudes who were so

473
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Speaker 2: sure in terms of tackling in the open field and

474
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Speaker 2: going sideline to sideline because it seems like Ohio State

475
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Speaker 2: has dudes on the defensive line, right, JT. Tuomal, who's

476
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Speaker 2: still there, Zach Harrison and their corners are finally because

477
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Speaker 2: they had kind of a dip at corner. The corners

478
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Speaker 2: are good, Denzel Burk and Cameron Brown. Sure, okay, so

479
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Speaker 2: the corners are good. We'll see it. Safety and linebacker,

480
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Speaker 2: it's basically to me just a question of like, do

481
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Speaker 2: they have good enough line linebackers to do what Jim

482
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Speaker 2: Knowles wants to do, because I think it's sort of

483
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Speaker 2: dependent on that with how much pressure he brings and

484
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Speaker 2: how kind of out on islands those linebackers can be

485
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Speaker 2: at times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I trust the talent. I feel good about the talent.

487
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Speaker 1: But to your point, eighty seventh last year in linebacker,

488
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Speaker 1: have a rate the linebackers needed to do and didn't.

489
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Speaker 1: Their tackle success rate was very average, Right? What is that?

490
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Speaker 1: It's sort of a measure of how good is a

491
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Speaker 1: team Attackling says it right in the name. They need

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Speaker 1: to get better at that. I think they know that,

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Speaker 1: and Jim Knowle's teams historically have been very good at that.

494
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Speaker 1: So if it all works, Dan, they're cooking with gas

495
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Speaker 1: because this is the best offense in America, full stop, right,

496
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Speaker 1: full stop. Ohio State lost two hundred and four targets

497
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Speaker 1: to the NFL draft. Garrett Wilson Chris Olave back to

498
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Speaker 1: back first round picks. For most teams, that's a catastrophe.

499
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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? That's a good astro fee.

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Speaker 1: That is not the issue for Ryan Day. Ryan Day

501
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: can plug and play. Marvin Harrison Junior, the three touchdowns

502
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Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl, a mechag Buca, Julian Fleming. These

503
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Speaker 1: guys are really good. On top of the fact that JSN,

504
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith, and Jigba the so called VX nerve gas

505
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: of this wide receiving core. Yeah, they have him back

506
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna use him out of the slot this

507
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Speaker 1: season just like they did last year. Clearly, he'll be

508
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Speaker 1: their big weapon through the air. The receiver room may

509
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Speaker 1: not be as good, but it'll be good enough. Like

510
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Speaker 1: this is still one of the best receiver rooms in

511
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Speaker 1: the country, and there's so much depth that even if

512
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Speaker 1: it doesn't work out with one of the other guys

513
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Speaker 1: not named JSN, there's not gonna be a huge step back.

514
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Speaker 1: They've got enough guys that they can plug and play.

515
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Speaker 1: So this is again one of those instances and we'll

516
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Speaker 1: talk about this a lot. Actually was as we get

517
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Speaker 1: into the SEC East when we do the Georgia preview.

518
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Speaker 1: But one of those deals where returning production numbers can

519
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Speaker 1: sort of lie to you and you need to have

520
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Speaker 1: full context in mind. I just I love this offense.

521
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Speaker 1: I love the receiver room, I love CJ. Stroud, I

522
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Speaker 1: love the backfield. The only reason I don't like Trey

523
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Speaker 1: Henderson is my Heisman pick at forty to one, is

524
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Speaker 1: because CJ. Stroud is currently the favorite, and they'll probably

525
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Speaker 1: end up splitting votes, maybe even with Jackson Smith and Jig.

526
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Speaker 1: But I don't know how many guys from one team

527
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Speaker 1: you can invite to the Heisman ceremony, but we could

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Speaker 1: have a couple from Ohio State. I think this is

529
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Speaker 1: the year Trey Henderson becomes a household name. A little

530
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Speaker 1: bit of question about offensive line depth, but they'll they'll

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Speaker 1: work that out. The schedule looks good. There are obviously

532
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: some pretty good teams on here, plus the non con

533
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Speaker 1: game against Notre Dame, but look it's spaced out well.

534
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Speaker 1: There's only four true road games, the toughest of which

535
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Speaker 1: is at Penn State. I'm all in on Ohio State.

536
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Speaker 1: I don't know how else I can characterize this for you.

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Speaker 1: I am all in on the Buckeyes this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The best thing I can say about Jackson Smith

539
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: and Jigba, aside from probably the best receiver in the country,

540
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: is that he's so good that he's in the rarefied

541
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Speaker 2: air with guys like Devonte Smith, where you see his numbers,

542
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: like with three minutes left in the first half, and

543
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: you think there's a graphical glitch from the truck exactly,

544
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Speaker 2: his seven catches for one hundred and eighty three yards

545
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Speaker 2: in the second quarter. He is a graphical glitch of

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, like I understand, there's probably an

548
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: impulse out there to look at at really any star

549
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: receiver on any of these big teams and say, well,

550
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: look who's next to him. Now, last year he was

551
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Speaker 1: playing next to Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave. Of course

552
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: he's going to be so good. You could argue he

553
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: was head and shoulders above those guys, right, it was,

554
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: he was so good that much. But yes, you could

555
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: make that case, and I've seen people try to make it.

556
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I fully buy in, but he

557
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: was just that good. He was not your typical slot receiver.

558
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Speaker 1: I think if you put him on any other team

559
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: in America, he poses the same matchup, that nightmare matchup

560
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: wherever you put him. So I'm all in on him.

561
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Speaker 1: I'm all in on Ohio State this season. There they're

562
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Speaker 1: winning the conference, they're winning the national championship. My opinion, can.

563
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Speaker 2: I ask you and this is an easier way to

564
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Speaker 2: transition to the next team from specifically the East Which

565
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: defense has the best shot because of personnel, because of coordinator,

566
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Speaker 2: because of recent history, Which defense has the best shot

567
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 2: to produce ghosts in passing lanes? And also obviously have

568
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: a random defensive end who can get to c J.

569
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: Stroud at times? Like, who is that that defense? Because

570
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: we've seen Michigan State's past defense look some good. We

571
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Speaker 2: now have a Penn State defense with Manny Diaz, but

572
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: starting again at defensive coordinator. They've had a few and

573
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Speaker 2: a few years and lost some considerable talent to the

574
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Speaker 2: NFL these last couple of years. Who is that defense

575
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Speaker 2: that you're like? This is specific to the East Man,

576
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Speaker 2: This is the best shot that somebody in this gid has.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. I think it's Penn State. Okay,

578
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Speaker 1: I think it's Penn State. That game is in State College,

579
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: which of course is a tough place to play. It's

580
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Speaker 1: like the Noon wide out game, which.

581
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Speaker 2: I said I was going to say the Noon or

582
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Speaker 2: white out.

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Speaker 1: Yea Fox for that, idiots, Uh, thanks Fox for everything.

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Speaker 2: I hol wonderful about twenty twenty two in the future

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Speaker 2: of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I hate that I'm biased. You know, I'm biabed, of course,

587
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Speaker 1: but I hate that. Let's go to Penn State next,

588
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: shall we. Okay, let's do it Penn State. Indulge me

589
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Speaker 1: for a minute if I get a little long winded

590
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: on Penn State. If you want to fast forward, I

591
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: get it. No harm, no foul here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I am fascinated, fascinated by Penn State this season. And

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Speaker 1: it is not just because I'm an alum and I

595
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: went there and I cheer this team on. Here is why,

596
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: if you're not an alum you should care about Penn

597
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: State this season. I don't think Vegas has the slightest

598
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Speaker 1: idea what to expect from Penn State. I don't think

599
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: they know I and those are the teams every year.

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Speaker 1: We talk about it every season when we do these previews.

601
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Speaker 1: Those are the teams that are the fun ones to

602
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: keep track of, even if you don't care anything at

603
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: all about them. Those are the teams that are fun

604
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: to keep track of because they're fun to bet on

605
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: you can win some money. Last season went sideways mainly

606
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: because Shan Clifford got hurt, mainly because he went down

607
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: in that Iowa game. They had no quarterback depth behind him.

608
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: They didn't know what to do. So this year, despite

609
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: the fact, as I qualify all of my Sean Clifford

610
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Speaker 1: thoughts by saying, I am not the biggest Shon Clifford fan,

611
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Speaker 1: nor have I ever been. But he's been in the

612
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: system of a year. He's back, presumably healthy. He's so

613
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Speaker 1: old now that he's running his own business while playing quarterback,

614
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: which gat he got to like that kind of ambition.

615
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: He does give them that veteran presence back there at quarterback,

616
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Speaker 1: and in year two in the Mike gearsag system, I

617
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: think it makes Penn State really interesting on offense. So

618
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Speaker 1: we can get into the offense a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: But on that topic of Vegas, Vegas has the over

620
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Speaker 1: under at eight and a half for Penn State. More specifically,

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Speaker 1: they've got the week one point spread against Perdue at

622
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Speaker 1: three and a half. It's a road game, it's Week one.

623
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Speaker 1: There's a lot you're gonna have point favorites, three and

624
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: a half point favorites. It was down at two and

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00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: a half, which is when I grabbed it. But three

626
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: and a half I think is showing a lot of

627
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Speaker 1: disrespect to a good team. This is a Perdue team

628
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: that's adjusting to life without David Bell, without George Carl

629
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Speaker 1: Loftis in week one. I like Perdue. You can talk

630
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: more about Perdue in the next episode, but that feels

631
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: low to me, and just in general, I think this

632
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: over under is in response to uncertainty, rightful uncertainty along

633
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: the line along the front seven a tough schedule, but

634
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Speaker 1: I feel like this is a great candidate for a

635
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: bounce back season. So we'll do an over under episode

636
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Speaker 1: at some point after we get through all of these previews.

637
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Speaker 1: But Penn State, to me, seems like a really good

638
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: candidate to hit that over.

639
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Speaker 2: So there, so, if I'm reading the tea leaves correctly,

640
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: you are saying much in the way I was very

641
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: high on UCLA over LSU last year in the offseason,

642
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: Perdue is your preseason home dog of Week one?

643
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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm saying I'm taking Penn State. I pick

644
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Speaker 1: Penn State.

645
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Speaker 2: You are, Yeah, I just you said it was disrespectful

646
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: to produce, So I just I meant Penn State. Oh okay,

647
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: it's disrespectful to Penn State that that line is that low,

648
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: because I think Penn State's a much better team than advertised.

649
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

650
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: Big plus for Penn State. And I know you'll get

651
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: to the schedule is they don't have to play Illinois

652
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: this year.

653
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: They do not have to play Illinois.

654
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: So they get to avoid that buzz saw. And yeah,

655
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just look, I have all my

656
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: questions about Penn State that I seem to have every year.

657
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: But talk to me about just I don't know, talk

658
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: to me about what you consider to be the main narrative,

659
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: the main three point, the main storyline that's going to

660
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: come up every week, maybe in a positive way that

661
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: the Penn State has summitted a mountain that they previously couldn't,

662
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: But it seems every year I'm thinking to myself, well,

663
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: I just can't seem to figure it out on off

664
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: despite recruiting all these good players. Well, let's start. They

665
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: keep developing a bunch of good dudes on defense that

666
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: are let down by an offense. Let me let me

667
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: start there, A quintessential Big Ten West team playing in

668
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: state college continued. I spent all of my thirties waiting

669
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: around for Penn State's line to get better. They're like

670
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Florida State North. They just like, there's always this promise

671
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: that the line's going to get better this year, and

672
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: they just haven't.

673
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Last season, they were one hundred and eighteenth in the

674
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: nation with just one hundred and eight yards per game

675
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: on the ground. And it wasn't just in the box score.

676
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: You know that's a box score number, but it killed

677
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: them situationally in short yarded situations in the red zone.

678
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: As the wise profit David Pollack likes to say, it

679
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: always starts up front.

680
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: Does it not always starts up front at the line

681
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: of scrimmage?

682
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel good about this line. This is the

683
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: best I felt about this line in quite some time.

684
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: I think that they've got enough beef upfront that they

685
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: will be much much better, and I think they have

686
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: to be. I think that's an edict that they all

687
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: know about because we saw what happened with Sean Clifford

688
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: going down last season. That can't happen again this year.

689
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: Quarterback depth was very thin a year ago. It's better

690
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: this season, I think, with Drew Lark coming in, but

691
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: they basically had to run the whole offense through Johan

692
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Dotson last season.

693
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: There are worse players to run it through, but he's

694
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: small and reliant on a quarterback getting him the ball.

695
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: There's only so much you can do, especially when you

696
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 1: don't have much at the quarterback position. Ended up going

697
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: two and six the rest of the way through their

698
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: final eight games. So I think they're better this season.

699
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: I get why there will be uncertainty up front. I

700
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: can't tell you for sure that they'll be better, but

701
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: what I can tell you is that I think there

702
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: is enough promise along that line that they can unlock

703
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: more at that running back position. And I'd like to

704
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: think it's Nick Singleton they're big freshman, or maybe k

705
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: Tron Allen another freshman. It could be your boy Kevonne

706
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: Lee yep. I let's hope that Mike Eusage can cultivate

707
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: some kind of running game. It's been a minute, it's

708
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: been a minute since we could say that, But I

709
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: am very optimistic about that.

710
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: By the way, the big thing to me with that

711
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: running game, just before you go on to receivers or

712
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks or defense or something. To me, if you don't

713
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: have a superstar line, you can still run the ball.

714
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: It's whether or not. James Franklin and Mike Erisich are

715
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: on the same page with regard to being creative lining

716
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: up in different personnels and not abandoning the run when

717
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: it's not working as a straightforward we're running inside zone

718
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: again unsuccessfully. It's are we pulling guys creatively? Are we,

719
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: you know, changing game plans week to week. Are we

720
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: using receivers in the run game, whether it's in jet

721
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: action or something like that. It's really pushing themselves too,

722
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: because you know, James Franklin likes RPO stuff. You know,

723
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: that was the the Kirksharaka and now Mike Erisage and

724
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: Sean Clifford is somewhat comfortable running that. But if the

725
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: R isn't a three, then the pe becomes less of

726
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: a threat. And so that to me is the thing

727
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: with Penn State is really just committing to the bit

728
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: of running the ball and not just running it for

729
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: the sake of running it, but being creative about what

730
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: that run game architecture looks like.

731
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel I feel optimistic about that, okay, but

732
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to fully commit to that bit because,

733
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: like I said, it's been a minute. It was literally

734
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: my thirties kind of a line that could really unlock

735
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: potential for this offense. Dotson's gone this year. He got

736
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: drafted by the Commanders. I think the wide receiver corps

737
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: will be fine. I like Parker Washington. You know, I

738
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: love Mitchell Tinsley. He's my pet player. The transfer from

739
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. I think he's going to be a star

740
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: in this offense. I'm curious to see what he can

741
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: do out there. I think the offense will be fine.

742
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: It will be better. Hopefully Sean Clifford can stay healthy. Defensively, though,

743
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: I think is where a lot of folks are are

744
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: going to train their attention when it comes to Penn State,

745
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: and it's because of some of the reasons that you

746
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: described earlier. They lose Brent Priye, new coach at Virginia Tech.

747
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: They also lose seven starters. They replace Pride with Manny Diaz,

748
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: who comes up from Miami. For what it's worth. I

749
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: also feel like I spent most of my thirties waiting

750
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: for the legend of many Diaz to come true. Are

751
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: you with me?

752
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: Yep? Absolutely.

753
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: This has been one of those movies where the critics

754
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: like it a lot better than the general public. With

755
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: Manny Diaz, yeah, for our purposes here for whatever it's worth.

756
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: He runs a similar enough system to Brent Priye. Maybe

757
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more aggressive and attacking, aren't they all?

758
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: But I think generally speaking, it's close enough. The secondary

759
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: is strong, it can probably handle the added strain of

760
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: them being more aggressive in the front seven. This is

761
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: the seventh best scoring defense, the fourth best defense in

762
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: terms of points per play last season. Even if they

763
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: take a marginal step back, I think it's tolerable and

764
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: there's a chance they get this whole thing figured out

765
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: by mid October. There's enough talent across the board that

766
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: I think they'll be fine. Uh. They do sustain some losses,

767
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: but I think their secondary will be pretty good. So

768
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: I feel very optimistic about this offense, especially with many Diez.

769
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to see a blip, and

770
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: it's not going to be like a big step back

771
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: because of a new system or changing anything up. I

772
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: think it's going to remain mostly in state.

773
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's also not a heavyweight roster of quarterbacks

774
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: in Penn State schedule, Like it's Aight and O'Connell. It's

775
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: whatever you believe in Kid McNamara and whatever you believe

776
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: in Tanner Morgan reuniting with Kirk Sharaka obviously c J. Stroud.

777
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: But like I guess if you're a Tala tongo vloaf,

778
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 2: like like I think Peyton Thorn is good.

779
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: Look, look and we'll.

780
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: Get to Michigan State.

781
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: But a point I just I'm not what you're saying

782
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: is this, Okay, what you're saying is Penn State has

783
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: potential to lose a dumb one, and their coach their

784
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: coach by James Franks. So yes, of course they have

785
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: potential to lose a dumb one, but we're not talking

786
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: about a heavyweight, heavyweight schedule of baller quarterbacks are going

787
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: to go nuts on them. No, right, if they lose

788
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: a dumb one, it's because their offense is living up

789
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: to its end of the bargain. It's not necessarily because

790
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: the defense is going to get blown out of the

791
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: water by the teams on this on this schedule, maybe

792
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: against Ohio State, maybe against you know, like there are

793
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: obviously some better offenses on this schedule, but even like

794
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: a non con game against Auburn, I don't think that

795
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: offense is going to be cooking with gas like Zach Calzada,

796
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? No? So I feel fine about

797
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Penn State's role in all this. As I said, or

798
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: maybe didn't say, I do like them to win that

799
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: Week one game against Purdue. I like them the winning cover.

800
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: They've had all offseason to think about going seven to

801
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: six or whatever it was, and I think their defense

802
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: matches up really well with Purdue. They're gonna win that game.

803
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: I think they're going to do well on the road

804
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: at Auburn Week three. I think it'll be close. But

805
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: I I just don't like Zach Calzada. I don't. Okay,

806
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: beyond that, crunch times mid October crunch time is Michigan.

807
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: They get Michigan after a buye. It's home against Minnesota

808
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: in an all time sandwich game. That if there's a

809
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,479
Speaker 1: dumb one or a moderately dumb one that they lose,

810
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: that's the game before home against Ohio State in the

811
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: weird noon whiteout game, because Fox sucks. But I feel

812
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: good about Penn State. I feel very good about that.

813
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: Over eight and a half.

814
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: I don't. Sorry, I just don't. I just don't because

815
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: I just don't know how far you can jump up

816
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: as an offense with the same coordinator and same quarterback

817
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: who was going through things, having offensive line questions, having

818
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: blowing dumb game questions. And also it's summer as we

819
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: record this, But your confidence in Sean Clifford and this

820
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: Penn State offense with a not good line traveling to Auburn,

821
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: which is a tough place to play, which should have

822
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: a pretty good defense, it goes. It flies in the

823
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: face of at least my rules for picking games.

824
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: Line. That's fine, and so I get it. You totally

825
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: get it.

826
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: You can talk about Auburn's offense and the quarterback situation

827
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: as well, but an at least pretty good defense at

828
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: home in a tough place to play against and underwhelming

829
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: of what we perceived to be an underwhelming offense. That's

830
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: that's a trip you got to take. Maybe so low

831
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: Michigan State. Let's go to Michigan State. Eleven and two

832
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: last season. Last season obviously cemented whatever man love Michigan

833
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: State had for mel Tucker, who after they posched him

834
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: away from Colorado late in the game, Yeah, late in

835
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: the game. Before the twenty twenty season, this was a

836
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: team that went what two and five the first season,

837
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: A plucky two and five in mel Tucker's first year. Obviously,

838
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: last season they came on strong.

839
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Felt like a little bit of pixie dust for Sparti,

840
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: but they were aggressive in the portal. Those moves paid dividends.

841
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: It ended up being damn impressive. I love mal Tucker,

842
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: so it was jarring for me to go back and

843
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: look at what people were saying and what Vegas was

844
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: saying specifically about Michigan State. Seven and a half is

845
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: the over under here expecting kind of a big step down.

846
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they're getting to ten wins again like

847
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: they did last season, but I don't see him losing

848
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: five games with what they've got coming back, not with

849
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: what looks like a very logical and smart and practical

850
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: offseason plan by mel Tucker to address what they needed

851
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: to do. So I think if you look at this objectively,

852
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. How he approached the

853
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: offseason and seven and a half to me is like,

854
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, talk about disrespect. Ever, the story with

855
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: Michigan State disrespect right, like, of course, this is another

856
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: one of those of those instances here. In many ways,

857
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: the preview for State is very similar to Penn State

858
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: because there are questions along the offensive line. There are

859
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: questions about what the defense is going to look like,

860
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: can they get better, can they you know that type

861
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: of thing here. We'll start with the offensive side of things.

862
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: I guess I think the line here, the offensive line

863
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: here is a much bigger mess than at Penn State.

864
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: If I'm going to draw that comparison. It's so bad

865
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: that they had to modify their spring game to account

866
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: for the fact that they didn't have enough linem in.

867
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: All right, that's how bad it is. Three starters gone

868
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: from last season, three other guys with game experience that

869
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: are also gone, transferred out or just leaving otherwise. There

870
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: are two guys that are coming back, are recovering from injury.

871
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: So you know, everyone's going to talk about the defense.

872
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: But I think this is actually the bigger question for me,

873
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line and what that looks like. I don't

874
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: have an answer. I have no I cannot give you

875
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: any insight here as part of the Solid Verbals official

876
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Big Ten East preview on Michigan State. Along the offense,

877
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I have no idea what to expect there. It could

878
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: be terrible, it could be much better than anticipation otherwise,

879
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: like the talent's great on offense, like not great, but

880
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: good enough on offense. Peyton Thorn Goodyear should be better.

881
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: Mel Tucker hit the portal hard again. Jerrick Broussard and

882
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: Jalen Berger come over from Colorado and Wisconsin, respectively, two

883
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: really good running back transfers there. Elijah Collins is still

884
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: there by the way, I feel like he's approaching John

885
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Stockow levels of eligibility. But you know they've got enough

886
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: at running back. Jalen Naylor is gone at receiver, but

887
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: the rest of the receiver room's back, so they'll be fine.

888
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: But the line is really the line's the biggest question

889
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: to this team.

890
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: You're wondering why they're being disrespected in the manner in

891
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: which they are, but you have questions about their offensive line.

892
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: You hope they get better against the past, but you're

893
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: not positive that I didn't get to that yet I

894
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: did not get to that yet. And so we are

895
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: dealing with a team who I don't think it can

896
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: be argued why they were as successful as they were

897
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: last year on offense, but it was because of Kenneth

898
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: Walker hitting home runs behind an at least pretty good

899
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: line that you don't believe exists anymore.

900
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: It may not exist anymore. No, it may not exist anymore.

901
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker not an East Lansing as for my memory, Kenneth, Yeah,

902
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: not with these I think that might be some part

903
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 2: of the reason why seven and a half is the overhip.

904
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: But seven and a half assumes that they're losing to

905
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Wisconsin both at home, as well as

906
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: Michigan as well as Penn State on the road, plus

907
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: one other game maybe maybe Washington on the road, maybe

908
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Minnesota at home, maybe Illinois on the road, or some

909
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: other dumb one. Yeah, I don't believe we're going to

910
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: see that level that step back from a Mel Tucker team.

911
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: I think they're always gonna be motivated. They're always going

912
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: to play whistle to whistle. That's just the kind of

913
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: coach this guy is. So if you're assuming the bottom

914
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: is going to fall out because of that offensive line,

915
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: because of questions about past defense, defense in general. Okay,

916
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: that's that's logical enough. I just don't see them taking

917
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: that big of a step back with this guy running things.

918
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier. Got a little bit of pushback

919
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: from Michigan State people in just the manner in which

920
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: they got to their win total last year with sort

921
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: of sneaking bi ugly against Nebraska, sneaking biugly against Indiana,

922
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: needing what they needed against Michigan, and then the capability

923
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: to be demolished. That worries me, like what we saw

924
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: with Ohio. Yeah, fifty six to seven. I know that

925
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: that's troubling that they have that in them, and that's

926
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: last year's team. That's last year's team. Every team is

927
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: a different, living, breathing thing.

928
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: I get it.

929
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: But that's that's where my head is.

930
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: On the defensive side, I'm confident that they'll be better. Okay,

931
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: seventy nine production is back. We pick and shoes where

932
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: we use that stat on the soft Okay, yeah, I'm

933
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: going to use it here because it fits my narrative.

934
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 1: Of course, top four tacklers are back. They also bring

935
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: up Chris Bogel boggle. I don't know how to say

936
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: name who played three years at Florida as well as

937
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: a mere speed. You remember a mere speed.

938
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 2: Of course Georgia. Yeah, opening day.

939
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Cornerback starter for Georgia last year. He got heard he

940
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: lost his spot, but he's a legit row caliber cornerback

941
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: who I think could really give this defense so much.

942
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: Need to pop in the defensive backfield. Mel Tucker also

943
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: tweaked the coaching staff. He added more experience to try

944
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: and improve the pass rush. Again, it's all smart, it

945
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: all makes a lot of sense. There's no like huge

946
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: gambles here. He's just getting the things that he feels

947
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: he needs more of. And so I just think the

948
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: defense has to improve, if only by virtue of the

949
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: fact that they were so bad last year, especially against

950
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: the pass. They got to get better. They can't get

951
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: any worse than they were a year ago. And so

952
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: even if it's a marginal improvement, this is a team

953
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: that won eleven games last season. Marginal improvement I think

954
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: easily gets him over seven and five. It probably doesn't

955
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: get him back to ten wins, though, it probably doesn't

956
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: come back to ten wins. So if at this point

957
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: we're recording this now in late July. Most people will

958
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: hear this in early August. If you're telling me right now,

959
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Michigan State goes eight and four, nine to three, I'd say, yes,

960
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: sign me up for that. But I don't see seven

961
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: and five. I would go I would go over. Maybe

962
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm giving away the game here right Like I said,

963
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: We're going to do an over under episode as we

964
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: get closer to the season. But I would feel pretty

965
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: comfortable going over Michigan State. And also, you want to

966
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: root for Michigan State. They're gonna be like a fun

967
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: team to root for again, just like they were last year.

968
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: So don't go under, don't be Debbie Downer. Go over

969
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: baby over on.

970
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 2: Sparti Sandwich game at Maryland between Minnesota and Ohio State.

971
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: You got Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Michigan with a bye

972
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: weekend there between Wisconsin and Michigan. Potential letdown at Illinois

973
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: after at Michigan at Penn State in the Land Grant game.

974
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: Listen, there are two types of people in this world.

975
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: There are two types.

976
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Of people in this world. The people who assume the

977
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: best or assume the worst. Glass half full, glass half empty.

978
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: If you want to look at a glass half empty.

979
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: Be my guest, Be my freaking guest. I'm not that guy.

980
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: I am not that the world has enough bad news

981
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: in it on a day to day basis. You don't

982
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: need me to throw cold water at Michigan State. I'm

983
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: not going to do it.

984
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: I want the okay, I want that to st I

985
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 2: see it. I apologize that this is not a Nicholas

986
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: Cage movie. I just see the Michigan State experience this

987
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 2: fall is maybe more of an uncut gems that there's

988
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: always gonna be this anxiety about the razor thin margins

989
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: involved with every decision in every moment. That is going

990
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: to give Sparti fans some palpitations along the way that like, well,

991
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: they beat Illinois by one, they be Maryland by two.

992
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: Are they going to get that? Are they gonna have

993
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: to Are they going to be able to play with

994
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: the kinds of margins they played with last year to

995
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: again get to a good place within the division in conference?

996
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: That to me is my analog here Listen. It is

997
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: a cumbersome metaphor, but I am comparing Michigan State Penn

998
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: State to some extent, Michigan to the One True God

999
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage. Okay, they might surprise.

1000
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: You, underestimate them.

1001
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: They may make you drink yourself to sadness in a

1002
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: hotel in the desert leaving Las Vegas. I understand, where

1003
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: do you want me to go next?

1004
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: I got three teams left here, all of which are

1005
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: definitely below that Cage line and definitely more in the

1006
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: cannon fodder variety of the amphibious assault on Alcatraz.

1007
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: And I just want to keep I want to stick

1008
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: with you. I want to love everyone. Let's talk about

1009
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: Indiana football.

1010
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: Oh okay, hell e oh, don't make me do this.

1011
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: Don't make me love Indiana.

1012
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: I know I'm saying love everyone. It's just like a

1013
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: general life philosophy. You might not love Indiana's outlaw.

1014
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.

1015
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: But let's just map out for me why they will

1016
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 2: be better than the elite loser they were last year.

1017
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: I won't lie to you and say that this season

1018
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: looks a whole lot better than last.

1019
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

1020
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: Indiana replaced both coordinators in the offseason. Michael Penix transferred,

1021
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: about two dozen guys entered the transfer portal, and right

1022
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: now Vegas has the over under at four, which feels

1023
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: like the right number to me, to be honest here,

1024
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know how this is gonna go exactly.

1025
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: I will give you two interesting things about Indiana. How

1026
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: about we start with that. I'm ready team that went

1027
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: two and ten last year has an over under a

1028
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: four this season. The two interesting fact toys that may

1029
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: only interest me. One, Connor Besilac transfers up from Missouri.

1030
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: Connor Bezilac was the twenty twenty SEC Freshman of the Year.

1031
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: We were talking as if Eli Drinkwitz had found his guy,

1032
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: as if he had struck gold in year one when

1033
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: he took that gig at.

1034
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: Misserzis after the LSU game and that specific moment. Yeah, yeah,

1035
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: how it was.

1036
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: A luxury, right, Remember, it's a luxury that he can

1037
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: build around this quarterback in year one. Connor Bezlock was

1038
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: very disappointing last year, eleven interceptions. He needs to be

1039
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: more careful with the football. It was a revolving door

1040
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: for Indiana a quarterback last season. If Connor Bezlack is

1041
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: in fact the guy that the Capital t Capital g

1042
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: that they can build around now this season, that'd be great.

1043
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see what that looks like. Secondly,

1044
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: the new coordinators are Walt Bell and Chad Wilt. Bell

1045
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: was at Maryland and Florida State before taking that UMass gig,

1046
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: which was impossible, and U Mass is it impossible? Of course,

1047
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: and will should help that defensive line. It should help

1048
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: them get better than they were. I'm really stretching here.

1049
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: I know I hear the voice. He's not gonna be

1050
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: calling plays. Tom Allen's calling the plays, which I think

1051
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: is actually an upgrade.

1052
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: Awesome defensive coordinator. Tom Allen is taking the responsibilities back.

1053
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: Maybe that means a better defense.

1054
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Last season everything sort of failed. It

1055
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: all sort of failed. The offense went from bad to worse.

1056
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: It put more pressure on the defense. The defense wore

1057
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 1: down over the season. Then guys started getting hurt there too.

1058
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: It was just a systematic failure. So I'm not going

1059
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: to sugarcoat it. The over under is four for reason,

1060
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: But if only for those two points, watch Indiana football

1061
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: Connor Bazilac and Tom Allen taking back control of the

1062
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: defense with hopefully some support staff that can help them

1063
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: make everything better at Indiana on both sides of the ball.

1064
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, look, they have Iowa early. Yes, Indiana

1065
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: is that the week before Iowa has the Syhawk game,

1066
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 2: like they The case for Indiana might be the gumpiness, right,

1067
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: might be the Texas techiness of their schedule.

1068
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: Like who else do they have along the way?

1069
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: They have Cincinnati right around the Arkansas game or a

1070
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: couple weeks after the Arkansas game with a new quarterback.

1071
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: They've got Western Kentucky with a new quarterback. They've got

1072
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: Penn State before Iowa in a look ahead spot and

1073
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: a little bit after Auburn, but a couple weeks after Auburn,

1074
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: Indiana has Michigan State before buy open face look ahead.

1075
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: Indiana has Ohio State before Penn State with the nooner.

1076
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean.

1077
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm not saying I'm high on Indiana.

1078
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they could be the Tom Allen Snake

1079
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: and the toilet team that we all dream about, that

1080
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: their act is together. Maybe they got out guys who

1081
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: are keeping the program back or the culture back for

1082
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 2: whatever reason. I don't know. That is me just fully guessing.

1083
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: But sometimes bounce back is just it just wasn't as

1084
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: bad as it was last year. Nobody, we weren't as

1085
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: beat up as we were last year, that the injury

1086
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: universe will even out.

1087
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: Maryland is much more of a snake in the toilet

1088
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: team okay than Indiana. If I could transition over to Maryland, please,

1089
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't see it for Indiana. You could talk me

1090
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: into it with Maryland, because in general, it feels like

1091
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: Maryland's getting better. It's just not getting better against the

1092
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: Big four, the Big ten East. It's getting better, just

1093
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: not against those four teams. They're still losing those games

1094
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: by an average of thirty one points. I'm curious that

1095
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: this is the year they finally snake won. I am

1096
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: to borrow your snake reference there because they're interesting to me.

1097
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: Talia Tungeva Loo had a good year last year. He's back.

1098
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: All five guys are back along the offensive line. The

1099
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: receiving corps is loaded with Dante DIMIs or Keem Jarrett,

1100
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: who they get back from injury. They also bring up

1101
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: Jacob Copeland, who is Florida's leading receiver last season. He

1102
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: transfers in. I think the passing games dangerous. They had

1103
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: no balance last year. That was the problem. They need

1104
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: to establish something of a running game, and it's not

1105
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: obvious to me who's going to give him that pop.

1106
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: But Danny Eno is still the offensive coordinator, you remember him.

1107
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: He knows there was no balance. He knows he needs

1108
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: to figure something out there. It's been talked a lot

1109
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: about in the offseason. Again, don't know how, but there's

1110
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: at least enough pop on offense, and there should be

1111
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: enough beefal on the line to keep t Leah upright

1112
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: that they can beat you through the air defensively. New

1113
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: coordinator Brian Williams, the outside linebackers coach, hired from within.

1114
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: He's got his work cut out for him because the

1115
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 1: defense loses a lot, especially in the back seven. It's

1116
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: tough for me to see them improving a whole lot.

1117
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: But again, if you're talking about Snake and the toilet,

1118
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: you're talking about a team that catches opponents in odd circumstances,

1119
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: weird situations, and certainly a team that's got enough firepower

1120
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: on offense to beat you. And I think that's I

1121
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: think that's Maryland. It's a really tough schedule. It's brutal,

1122
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: it's brutal. The first three weeks of November are going

1123
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: to be hell at Wisconsin, at Penn State Home against Ohio, State.

1124
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: There's also a bit of a wounders row, as we

1125
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: like to say earlier in the year, with a run

1126
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: of SMU at Michigan and then home against Michigan State.

1127
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: So am I saying Maryland is going to be an

1128
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: eight and four team? No? Am I saying Maryland's going

1129
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: to be a seven and five team? Probably not? Probably not.

1130
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: Could they get the six wins? Maybe?

1131
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah they be, they can drive for six, but continue.

1132
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't look at the over under

1133
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: here for the Terps. But they've at least got a

1134
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: dangerous enough offense and interesting enough pieces out wide that

1135
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: you could see them challenging a team like Michigan State.

1136
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: Let's say, let's put Michigan State in there. Okay, could

1137
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: they get into a shootout and beat Michigan State at home? Yeah?

1138
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: I could see that.

1139
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: Is Maryland a sandwich game for anybody? They're a look

1140
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: ahead game for Michigan and the Michigan State.

1141
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: Michigan State gets Maryland on the road for them. That's

1142
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: after Minnesota, which I think should be a tough game.

1143
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: You can talk more about that next episode, and then

1144
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: before they come back home for a run of Ohio

1145
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: State in Wisconsin an obvious let down look ahead spot, gotcha,

1146
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: So I could see it there. Otherwise for this Maryland team,

1147
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: just in looking around, I mean Ohio State, as I said,

1148
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: is also in an interesting spot with Maryland a week

1149
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: before the Michigan game. But they're gonna blow the doors

1150
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: off Maryland and they're gonna they're gonna kill Maryland. So okay,

1151
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: it's just a really tough schedule.

1152
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: Maryland is also a sandwich team if you're a believer

1153
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: in Perdue. Perdue has Maryland between Minnesota and Nebraska, and

1154
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: it's Minnesota and Nebraska and Wisconsin, you know, with Maryland

1155
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: in the middle of that sandwich. Just in terms if

1156
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: you're looking at the drive for six, if you're.

1157
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: Looking at the drive for six, if you're looking at

1158
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: the drive for six within that context, yes, But in

1159
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: terms of who could they potentially snipe from that top five, top.

1160
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: Four, excuse me, it's Michigan State.

1161
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: It probably Michigan State. Yeah, fair enough. Final team here

1162
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: on the East Rutgers. Rutgers five and eight last season,

1163
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: really bad offense, gone.

1164
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: In sixty seconds. Continue, really bad offense. It's been completely overhauled,

1165
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: mainly up front along the line, Shiano worked the portal

1166
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: really hard, brought it four transfers along with seven offensive

1167
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: linemen from the latest recruiting class. So it's gonna be

1168
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: baby Scarlet Knights up front. It's gonna be all new faces.

1169
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: It could be a spectacular disaster, but there will be

1170
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: a lot of new faces. Maybe that makes them interesting

1171
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: to watch if you like line play. Noah Vegril's back

1172
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: at quarterback probably not etched in stone. I'd write that

1173
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: more pencil. I'm curious to see if they give it

1174
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: to Gavin Wimsat, who is their four star recruit from

1175
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago that people get excited about.

1176
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: Even Evan Simon could jump into the race too. That's

1177
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: that's very much an open question for me at quarterback.

1178
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: No A Vegril was fine, but nothing spectacular.

1179
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, I go that art continue.

1180
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he he was just let's try to be nice here, Okay, Okay.

1181
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: I think Seanna knows what he's doing on defense. It's

1182
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: a pretty intense rebuild, to be fair. Yeah, but it's

1183
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: like he bought the fixer upper house and he's the

1184
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: Chip and Joanne here, like he knows what did he

1185
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: knows what to buy from target to make it look hospitable. Okay,

1186
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: and so I think the line like he'll dress the lineup.

1187
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: They'll be fine along the line elsewhere, a lot of

1188
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: new faces. Don't expect a whole lot from Rutgers. The

1189
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: schedule also is brutal. It's brittalight, Yeah, I mean it's

1190
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: just brutal.

1191
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're the underlying numbers and some of the performances.

1192
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: You look at what they were able to do against

1193
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: Michigan last year, for example, they lose that game by

1194
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: a touchdown, allowed twenty points. They beat Illinois if I'm

1195
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 2: looking at this correctly, they beat Illinois last year. There

1196
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: are certain takeaways. They beat what Syracuse as well. They

1197
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: held them down last year. Rutgers did, yep that if

1198
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: they're able to replicate the feistiness up front on defense

1199
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: now they gave up way too much in the back end.

1200
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: That I believe, And you have the schedule in front

1201
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 2: of in front of you, hopefully, I believe there's sandwich matchups.

1202
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 2: I think they are the sandwich. They are the meat

1203
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: in the there's I think Michigan Minnesota both have Rutgers

1204
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: between two challenging opponents. Believe that's the case.

1205
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michigan gets Rutgers on the road in between Michigan State,

1206
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: which could be a letdown spot and before Nebraska right there.

1207
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's one sandwich.

1208
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State gets Rutgers between Wisconsin and Michigan State. But

1209
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm not even counting it there.

1210
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: Not worried about that.

1211
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: Continue Minnesota, though, Minnesota is interesting. Minnesota's got Rutgers, and

1212
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: I've got it highlighted here. Rutgers at home in Minnesota,

1213
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: but in between road games against Penn State and Nebraska.

1214
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: There you go. So to Welkim, I'm silver lining this tie.

1215
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to silver line this because if you start

1216
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: with competent play up front on defense, and you're able

1217
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: to get a little bit deeper, get a little bit

1218
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: more talented along the roster as a whole, good things

1219
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: can happen. Greg Shadow is a good coach, it can happen.

1220
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: And Shiano is a good coach. Again to the mel

1221
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: Tucker point from earlier, he's working the portal. His moves

1222
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: make logical sense. It's just gonna take a while. To

1223
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: the point that we brought up on an episode a

1224
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, is Rutgers a year away from

1225
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: being a year away, two years away from being two

1226
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: years away. They might be two years from being one

1227
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: year away. It's gonna be a longer rebuild here, but

1228
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: at Rutgers knows that, they know that, and Shanno's signed

1229
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: up for it. It's also a bit of cherry picking on

1230
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: your behalf to look at the schedule, look at Rutgers

1231
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: from the scheduling perspective of other teams and not from within,

1232
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: of course, because they've got Iowa at Ohio State and

1233
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: Nebraska a run of three really tough games earlier in

1234
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: the season, and then they close out the year at Minnesota,

1235
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: Michigan at Michigan State, Penn State at Maryland. Brutal, absolutely brutal. Now,

1236
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: I hear you.

1237
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to find see what Maryland excuse me.

1238
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: What Rutgers is to me right now is a don't

1239
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: look now team. Don't look now, but Rutgers is down

1240
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: a touchdown laid against Michigan right that maybe they turn

1241
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: those losses into eventual sixteen thirteen wins instead of sixteen

1242
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: thirteen losses. There. Don't look now, but Rutgers is hanging,

1243
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: didn't they lose by like nothing to Michigan State the

1244
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: previous year. Right, there was somebody that Ruckers. I know

1245
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: they've I think they hung with the brask in the

1246
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: last couple of years. That don't look now, but Rutgers

1247
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: is going to be something that will just it'll pop

1248
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: up in week five and week nine, week eleven or

1249
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: something like that. Which Look, they got to a fake

1250
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: Bowl game last year, right as a five win team.

1251
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: Yep.

1252
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: Who they play wake?

1253
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: Yep?

1254
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: I believe. So, I don't know, that's a base that's

1255
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: a base level that they have ascended to that point

1256
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: is a good thing. So I don't know. Competitive is

1257
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 2: the goal. Look, that's all it is right now. Frisky

1258
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: is the goal. Frisky's the goal.

1259
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: And if you're at home, if you take anything away

1260
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: from this, the Big ten East is the Rock Baby Rock,

1261
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: an iconic American flick produced by Ja Rockheimer. Michael bay

1262
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: I believe directed that back in was it ninety six,

1263
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: ninety eight somewhere in the mid late nineties. It's a

1264
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: great movie.

1265
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: You got the Hummer and was it a Ferrari a

1266
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: Lamborghini chase through San Francisco to hospine Hobviga Stolnk. You

1267
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: have a good working knowledge of the rock.

1268
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: I could probably do every line of the rock. That's

1269
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: why I picked it.

1270
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: You want to talk mac Real quick, it's Mac East

1271
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: once again Mac East.

1272
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: We've got Akron, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Kent State, Miami, Ohio and.

1273
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: Regular Ohio, Regular Ohio, Go Popcats. There's not much to

1274
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: say about Akron. They were a disaster. They hired Joe Morehead.

1275
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: They hit the portal extremely hard to get power five dudes.

1276
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: It's going to be a minute before the Zips are competitive.

1277
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: But look, they're populating the team with talent, and that's

1278
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 2: as good a thing you can say at this moment.

1279
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: That should be able to shine in the next couple

1280
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: of years on whatever. They're pulling a Rutgers, they're pulling

1281
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: the Ruckers. But Joe morheat is somebody who I think

1282
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: will resonate on the trail. I think who will build

1283
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: a good culture there has the head coaching experience of

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Speaker 2: both Mississippi State and Fordham. You know, we like Joe Moorehead,

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Speaker 2: So that's as good as I can say. Buffalo and

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Speaker 2: mo Linguist are interesting because he is also somebody who

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Speaker 2: seems to be resonating on the recruiting trail. I think

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Speaker 2: Buffalo pulled in and I don't know if it was

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Speaker 2: average rating, but their best class either in a long

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Speaker 2: time or ever so, especially given that this is his

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Speaker 2: first full off season after being hired late when Lance

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Speaker 2: Leipold got hired away by Kansas. Look, they are going

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Speaker 2: after Power five transfers as well, and so they should

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Speaker 2: be at some point a little bit more balanced. The

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Speaker 2: defense just needs to get the hell off the field

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01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: better than they did last year. Just allowed way too

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Speaker 2: many big plays. But Buffalo is interesting. Buffalo is interesting

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Speaker 2: just because of the talent level right now. Still young.

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Speaker 2: Bowling Green a surprise team for me last year with

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Speaker 2: the steps forward their defense took, beating Minnesota randomly. But

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Speaker 2: Bowling Green is interesting. They have UCLA in Mississippi State

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Speaker 2: on the road this year in the non conference portion

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Speaker 2: of the schedule. Scott Leffler's done a good job with

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Speaker 2: that offense. There's experience with that offense, especially at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to be in the hunt for

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Speaker 2: a Bowl bid really, which given the depths of Bowling

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Speaker 2: Green the Falcons these past few years, I think they're

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Speaker 2: definitely a drive for six their player.

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Speaker 1: Their offense was horrible last season. It was it was

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Speaker 1: so bad last season, Scott Leffler one t by the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the underlying numbers on defense though, are

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Speaker 2: promising that even though the defense gave, they had a

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Speaker 2: string of I think the meady middle for opposing offenses

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Speaker 2: bowling green at least frisky and interesting this year. Bobcats,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned Ohio. I guess regular Ohio was your phrasing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, regular Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Another last second coaching switch last year. Hopefully it goes

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Speaker 2: better this year. They could run the ball last year

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Speaker 2: and that was about it. They couldn't run the ball

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Speaker 2: into the end zone. But it's once again Rourke. So

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Speaker 2: the Rourke string of brothers continues. I don't know. They

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Speaker 2: have Iowa State and Penn State and the offense is

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Speaker 2: basically going to be Curtis Rourke and a bunch of

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Speaker 2: new guys. So I'm not super high on Ohio. I

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01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: am super high on who I have coming out of

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Speaker 2: the East, and kind of a no brainer to me

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Speaker 2: in Miami of Ohio, Chuck Martin has done a very

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Speaker 2: good job. They have the best quarterback to me in

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Speaker 2: the MAC or at least in this division in Brett Gabbert,

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Speaker 2: who is just I mean, he's Blaine's little brother. I

1331
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Speaker 2: am surprised he didn't get more attention on the recruiting

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Speaker 2: trail just because of his name, you know, from Miszoo.

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Speaker 2: And I guess it's probably his size because he's not

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Speaker 2: a gigantic dude, but really good quarterback. And so Miami

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01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: should be good. They're impressive. It's a lot of new

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Speaker 2: faces there, but yeah, I think Chuck Martin and the

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Speaker 2: RedHawks will be good. And speaking of which, Kent State

1338
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 2: is a fascinating half team. Dustin Crumb finally gone. But

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be sort of plug and

1340
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Speaker 2: play for this offense because I like Sean Lewis, I

1341
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 2: like the brand of football that they play. They should

1342
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: be able to run the hell out of the ball

1343
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 2: once again. But listen to this tie. I'm like, they

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01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: did change defensive coordinator, so they're trying. Their non conference

1345
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: slate includes Washington, Oklahoma, and Georgia all on the road. Wow,

1346
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 2: get that money, Get that money. However you can. Kent

1347
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 2: State's going to be exceedingly watchable this year. But I

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Speaker 2: have Miami coming out of the East, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, there you go, Big ten East, Mac East. We

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Speaker 1: will be doing an episode next time talking about the

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Speaker 2: next few months. Love it Ty, thank you for your

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Speaker 2: your stretchy Nicholas Cage and Rock comparisons. I enjoyed every

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Speaker 2: second of.

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Speaker 1: It was it was a heavy lift. It was a

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Speaker 1: heavy lift. I'm not gonna lie a little clunky.

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Speaker 2: I'm picturing you with like a weird projector like an

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Speaker 2: old school football coach watching rock rewatching it with a notepad,

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Speaker 2: maybe some old glasses taking looking up, scrunching like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's a good one. There's a good one. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: For that guy there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

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Speaker 1: a little big ten West in the meantime, As always,

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