1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one into four, from one 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: till four, whether you like it or not. And then 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: after four o'clock you can hear our podcast, which is 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: same as the radio show. John Cobelt Show on demand 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: runs after four o'clock or so, and you go listen 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: to what you missed and Deborah's here today. Hello, John 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: remark left me alone here yesterday you survived. Yes, you're 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: a survivor. Well, welcome back. We have big news and 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: this happened in the last two hours. They're calling this 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: game changer, and usually I question when I hear words 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: like that, is this hype? 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: But it may be. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you about it now, and hopefully 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: before the end of the show we will get someone 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: schooled an immigration law to explain this in further detail. 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: But I will do the best I can based on 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: the news reports coming out. This is a Supreme Court 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: decision and they have temporarily allowed Texas to enforce a 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: new state law that allows Texas police to arrest illegal 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: aliens who crossed the border from Mexico into Texas, and 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: I'll explain the background so you understand why this is 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: such a shocking decision. Virtually everybody in the immigration government 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: law business is really surprised. It was a six to 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: three vote. You may remember back in twenty twelve, Arizona 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: passed law that would have allowed state officials and local 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: police to enforce restrictions against illegal aliens, and the Supreme 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: Court shot that down five to three. I remember we 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: went out to Arizona to cover that issue. It was 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: a really big deal because the police were allowed to 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: arrest and detain illegal aliens, and the Supreme Court at 33 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: the time said no. And the reasoning was that federal 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: law overrides state enforcement. If there's a conflict between federal 35 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: law and state law when it comes to immigration, federal 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: law wins. And that has been the doctrine ever since. 37 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's always been the doctrine, but this really 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: put it into code. And for some reason, twelve years 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: later in twenty twenty four, Texas passed the law to 40 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: do something similar and start arresting illegal aliens, and the 41 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Supreme Court said, yes, you can do that, at least 42 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: for a time. Six to three. Now here's what happened. 43 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: That law is called SB four Senate Bill four, and 44 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: the main issue is can Texas strictly enforce laws against 45 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: illegal aliens that the government chooses not to enforce. You know, 46 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 2: the Texas Governor Greg Abbott has said that if Biden's 47 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: administration is not going to do it, We're going to 48 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: do it. This is an invasion again, an invasion into 49 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: our state, and they're right, it is an invasion by 50 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: the millions from dozens of foreign countries. The Justice Department, 51 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: arguing on behalf of the Biden administration, said if Texas 52 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: were allowed to enforce its own immigration policy, it would 53 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: create chaos, disrupt relations with Mexico, and they asked the 54 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: Supreme Court to suspend this law while it goes through 55 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: the whole federal court system. Now, what had happened is 56 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: on February twenty ninth, a lower court federal judge had 57 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: blocked the law off from going in effect, and then 58 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: the US Court of Appeals, the Fifth Circuit New Orleans, 59 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: reversed the order by a two to one vote. So 60 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: the Biden administration took the case to the Supreme Court, 61 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court at least temporarily has agreed with 62 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: the appeals Court and allowed the law to take effect. Now, 63 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: the law itself still has to go through the court system. 64 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: This was a fight over the temporary injunction until the 65 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: law is decided. Can Texas arrest these illegal aliens? And 66 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, like the Appeals Court, say yes, And 67 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: again this is a reversal from their twenty twelve policy. 68 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: In fact, the Biden administration said the Texas law is 69 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: flatly inconsistent with the twenty twelve ruling and that more 70 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: than a century of this court's precedence recognized that the 71 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: authority to admit and remove non citizens is a court 72 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: responsibility of the national government. And that's been true. They 73 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: are not wrong to assert that the federal government has 74 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: always had that right. Allegedly, it's in the Constitution. The 75 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: Supreme Court has decided in favor of the federal government repeatedly, 76 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: and they had again in twenty twelve or rather broad 77 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: decision in the Arizona case. And now it's gotten flipped 78 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: upside down. Everybody's in shock because now Texas police can 79 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: arrest illegal aliens for being in the. 80 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: For being in being in Texas. Now, I don't know. 81 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: The specifics whether I have heard that they have to 82 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: see them crossing the Rio Grande River and they could 83 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: be arrested at that point. I don't think they could 84 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: be arrested randomly throughout the state. But it's definitely something 85 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: that up until today was never illegal, but never legal 86 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: in the United States now. It's interesting because I've always 87 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: wondered about this because everyone stands by the constantitution and 88 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: precedent and state laws. But what happens if an administration 89 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: absolutely refuses to enforce the law? 90 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: What do you do? 91 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: We have a situation like that, this in La County, 92 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: where you have a district attorney who absolutely refuses to 93 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: enforce many laws. So what do you do? Do you 94 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: stand around and just let the place go to hell? 95 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: Is Texas supposed to take in millions of illegal immigrants 96 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: and do what with them? There's nowhere to house them, 97 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: there's no money to feed them all, no place to 98 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: put them, no place to school the kids. 99 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: They don't have a medical care system. 100 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: Should Texas or any state be forced to take on 101 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: that burden? Because you have an incompetent federal government run 102 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: by a bunch of idiot progressives, what do you do? 103 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: And the thing is with all the screaming that goes 104 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: on in public about political issues, nobody ever gets to 105 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: the nub of the question. You're the governor of a state, 106 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: put yourself in his place. He sees millions coming over 107 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: the border, and he doesn't have the money, the personnel, 108 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: the shelter, the schooling, the medical care, the food he 109 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: had he's got he doesn't have, and. 110 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: No state does. 111 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: What do you do at a certain point if the 112 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: federal government abandons its responsibility. Because the Constitution cuts both ways. 113 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: The Constitution says ordinarily the federal government supersedes state government. 114 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: The Constitution also says that the. 115 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: President is required to enforce the law immigration law. 116 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: He chooses not to, what do you do? 117 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: And maybe these six Supreme Court justices have seen we've 118 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: hit the end of the line on this. If you 119 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: have one government body that refuses to follow the constitution, 120 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: refuses to follow the law, and creates an impossible city situation. 121 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: That's the whole point of having three branches of government 122 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: and a balance of power. If the president is not 123 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: going to do it, well, somebody has to. And so 124 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court has said, for now, the state of 125 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: Texas can and I don't know what they what kind 126 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: of reasoning they wrote down in their decision. This just 127 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: came out really an hour and a half ago. But 128 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: I would have to think that's the thinking that's going 129 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: on in their minds. At some point, somebody has to 130 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: do something. We've already let millions of illegal aliens in. 131 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: I mean, look at those ridiculous mayors in Chicago and 132 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: New York squealing and squealing because maybe they have a 133 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: couple of one hundred thousand illegal aliens. Well, Texas, there's 134 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: millions that have passed through, No kidding. If you're overwhelmed 135 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: with a couple one hundred thousand, what's Greg Abbott supposed 136 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: to do with this situation? So again, if you're just 137 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: joining us. Supreme Court decided six to three that temporarily, 138 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: at least Texas is allowed to enforce a new state 139 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: law so police can arrest legal aliens who are crossing 140 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: the Rio Grande. I believe they have to see them 141 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: crossing and then they could arrest them. And it's turned 142 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: the legal and political system upside down. Everybody shocked at 143 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: the decision, first time in memory that the Supreme Court 144 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: has sided with a state on enforcing its own immigration law. Oh, 145 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: and I'm sure Gavin Newsom will follow right up right, 146 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: and we'll adopt a similar policy here in California. I'll 147 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: tell you all the people aren't going to go through 148 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: Texas anymore. A lot of them are going to be 149 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: coming through here. We will continue and we'll have more 150 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: on this later on in the show. That all the 151 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: information I gave you is all we have right now, you're. 152 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 3: Listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six forty. 153 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: We actually have a lot of immigration in this. We'll 154 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: get to more of it in the two o'clock hour. 155 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: Steve Gregory is going to come in. There's a couple 156 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: of stories. 157 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: One is that. 158 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: Legal alien from Lebanon who says he's a member of 159 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: Hezbollah and he came to America. He was planning to 160 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: go to New York and build a bomb. Actually told 161 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 2: this the border officials. And another story, and you may 162 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: have heard this piece has been on the news. Steve 163 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: has a story about how officials think that you have 164 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: terrorists from the Middle East going to Mexico, learning Spanish, 165 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: shaving their beards and turning themselves visually into Mexicans, and 166 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 2: then they'll come here and commit terrorism, but they won't 167 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: be as noticeable because they won't look stereotypically Middle Eastern 168 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: with the thick beards. I mean, everybody makes jokes about 169 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: terrorist beards, and the terrorists know it. The terrorists know 170 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: that they become a stereotype, so they want to now 171 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: transform themselves into Mexicans. 172 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: Not making this up. Really is happening. 173 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: Steve's got to have that story as well. This it's 174 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: just when somebody is nuts, Boy are they? Rebecca Grossman 175 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: to hear the latest on her. Rebecca Grossman is the 176 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: woman who was driving eighty miles an hour after some 177 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: booze and some valium and killed two young boys, Mark 178 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: and Jacob Iskander. They were eleven and eight. They were 179 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: crossing the street with their mother and other brother and 180 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: she was racing her boyfriend, Scott Erickson former Dodger Pitcher. 181 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: Grossman is not just any woman. She is still the 182 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: wife of doctor Peter Grossman, and in fact, Peter and 183 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: Rebecca Grossman founded the Grossman Burns Center in the valley 184 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: and he's the medical director there. So this is quite 185 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: a prominent family, which is why this story got so 186 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: much attention, even beyond the obvious tragedy here. Well, she 187 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: got convicted. She's sixty years old and was convicted of 188 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: two counts of murder, two counts of gross vehicular manslaughter, 189 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: one count of hit and run and sentencing is coming 190 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: soon and she could get thirty four years to life, 191 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: so she's done. She tried to blame it on Scott Erickson. 192 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: The story was they were racing and they both had SUVs. 193 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: The thing is. 194 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: There were big dents and blood on Rebecca Grossman's suv. 195 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: That's why it was really obvious for moment one who 196 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: hit the boys, and she tried to blame it or 197 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: attorney tried to blame on Scott and it was Scott Erickson. 198 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: And it was really one of the worst defenses I'd 199 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: ever seen. I mean, this was just preposterous, beyond belief. 200 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: And what's amazing is the jury saw through it all 201 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: and that doesn't always happen. But she's in shock that 202 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: she got convicted, like she was the only one who thought, yeah, 203 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: this is a big defense, this will work. 204 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand the arrogance and entitlement. Is this true? 205 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: This trial went on for what six weeks, and she 206 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: is so stunned that she got convicted. 207 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't of them think she's completely delusional. 208 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: And she's kind of stupid because after she gets convicted 209 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: and she's sitting in jail awaiting the sentencing, she has 210 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: been on the phone with her husband, her daughter, and 211 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: other people trying to somehow get a new trial, get 212 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: this conviction reversed, and to the point where now the 213 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: District Attorney, the Deputy DA, Ryan Gould, and another Deputy, 214 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: Jamie Castro, filed a motion to suspend phone privileges from 215 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: Rebecca Grossman. And it's really egregious what she's been doing. 216 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: And when we come back after Debora's News, I'll get 217 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: into the details, but I just want to do this 218 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: setup first. She has been trying to intimidate durors. She's 219 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: trying to get Scott Erickson to confess she and I mean, 220 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: according to Ryan Gould, the Deputy DA, this is wholly 221 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: improper conduct, potentially illegal conduct. She's trying to get her 222 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: daughter involved, her husband still supporting her. She was running 223 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: around on him with the baseball player. She's out getting 224 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: drunk and loaded, running over little kids, and the medical 225 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: director of the Grossman Burn Center is. 226 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Standing I'm going to stand by you, honey. Well, you 227 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: know me. You don't know what kind of relations they have. 228 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: It could be an open relationship. It's quite open. It's 229 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: just wide open. I don't know. I'm not familiar with 230 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: this kind of relationship. But I mean to me, i'd 231 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: want her locked up. I mean, I don't think i'd 232 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: want her coming back home. Well, they do share kids together, 233 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: so it could be all about the kids. Yeah, well 234 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: we come back. 235 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Wait until you hear what Rebecca Grossman has been scheming 236 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: from her jail cell. It's really nuts. 237 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am 238 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: six forty. 239 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: Now. 240 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: I know I left you with the Cliffhanker about Rebecca Grossman, 241 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: the wife of the Burn Center doctor who ran over 242 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: those two kids, and she's up to all sorts of 243 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: bad behavior in her jail cell while she waits sentencing, 244 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: and I set the whole thing up. But you know 245 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: this is live radio and news breaks, so we'll get 246 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: to Rebecca Grossman a little later. Right now, we have 247 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: a chance to talk to Mark Grecoran and he's on 248 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: a tight schedule center for Immigration Studies. So when they 249 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: said Mark is available right now. Yes, let's put him 250 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: on right now and we'll talk about Rebecca Grossmand later 251 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: and it's over. The story we opened with Supreme Court 252 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: has said Texas can at least temporarily enforce a new 253 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: state law that allows its police to arrest illegal aliens 254 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: who are crossing the Rio Grand. It was a six 255 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: to three vote and not in recent memory can anybody 256 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: think of a time where the Supreme Court sided with 257 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: a state against the federal government so the state could 258 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: enforce its own immigration law. But this story is only 259 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: a couple hours old. I thought we'd get Mark grecoron 260 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: on from Center for Immigration Studies to explain the details 261 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: as he knows it and the ramifications this. I hear 262 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: the I've heard the cable outlets driving in and they 263 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: all were proclaiming this is a real shock, or is it? 264 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: Well kind of. First of all, I'd love to hear 265 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: about Rebecca Grossen on myself. But putting that to one side, 266 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: we'll get to that this decision. The first thing to 267 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: understand is the Supreme Court did not uphold the Texas law. 268 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: All they did was they said it could go into effect. 269 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 4: While the main lawsuit over whether it's legal or not, 270 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 4: winds its way through the courts, and that's what the 271 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 4: Biden administration was trying to stop. But it's still a 272 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: pretty big deal because the Texas law for the first 273 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 4: time makes it a state offense, a state crime to 274 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 4: illegally cross into Texas, in addition to being. 275 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: A federal crime. 276 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: And they followed the federal law exactly in every respect, 277 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: so they're not making up their own thing. They're just 278 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 4: saying that this thing, which is a federal violation, the 279 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 4: exact terms of that, are also a state violation. And 280 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 4: that matters because that means that Texas State police can 281 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: now arrest people that they see, either personally or on 282 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: cameras or something crossing illegally. They can arrest them. They 283 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: can be tried for a state crime. And this is 284 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 4: the interesting spin on this is that either they can 285 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: go to jail it's a misdemeanor, so it would be 286 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 4: a you know, less than one year term if they 287 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: did it, or the judge can order them to be 288 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: escorted back to the border to apport an entry and 289 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 4: you know, they can leave on their own and if 290 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 4: they do that then the jail time doesn't apply. If 291 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 4: they come back then they're in trouble, and that's what 292 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 4: has gotten people on the left and the administration still outraged. 293 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: They're saying Texas is deporting these people when they really aren't. 294 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 4: They're just escorting them. And they're saying, if you want 295 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 4: to go back and avoid jail, this is how you 296 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 4: do it. Go back to Mexico. 297 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: And these are four people coming across the real grand And. 298 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: River right well, entering Texas illegally in Texas's whole border 299 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: with Mexico is the Rio grand. 300 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: So yes, okay, And they're not going to a border 301 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 2: patrol station and claiming asylum. They're trying to sneak in. 302 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 4: Well, it depends, but even those that are coming across 303 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: and claiming asylum, they all snee they all cross illegally. 304 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: So if Texas can get to them before they turn 305 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: themselves into the border patrol, they can arrest them. So 306 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 4: that's one of the things that's going to be kind 307 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: of interesting, is you know, is Texas going to try 308 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 4: to put itself between the illegals and the border patrol 309 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: so it arrests them before they can turn themselves in. 310 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, there's going to be you know, 311 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: this is going to be interesting how this will play 312 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: out over the next week or two or three. 313 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Weeks now, you know. 314 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: Of course, in twenty twelve, it was a five to 315 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: three Supreme Court decision that said Arizona could not arrest 316 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: illegal Alillians that had gotten into the state. What is 317 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: the difference between the way the Texas law is written 318 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: and the Arizona law That Arizona was overruled, but Texas 319 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: has been temporarily supported. 320 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 4: Well, because, first of all, we have a very different 321 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: Supreme Court. So the six to three decision on allowing 322 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: this to continue, you know, provisionally for this law to 323 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 4: go into effect, was on essentially party lines. I mean 324 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: the state part I mean, the Supreme Court doesn't have parties. 325 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: But you know, the sixth Conservatives voted to allow it 326 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: to go into effect. The three liberals said no. So 327 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: it's a different Supreme court. Is a big part of 328 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 4: the law isn't exactly the same. Arizona did not have 329 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: this provision where they could waive the crime, waive the 330 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: punishment by just escorting people to the boarder, watching them, 331 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: you know, sort of documenting that they left the United States. 332 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: So that's one significant difference. But I think the biggest 333 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: difference is, at least for now, that the court is different. 334 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: Supreme Court makeup is different, And eventually this will reach 335 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court again to rule on the actual law itself, 336 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 4: whether the law itself is constitutional, and we'll see what 337 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 4: the outcome will be. Then it may not be sixtreme 338 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 4: because you know, the Chief Justice is a little bit 339 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: squishier on a lot of things. But I mean it's toured. 340 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: I'm not going to hazard guesses on that. But the 341 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: point is the court is very the makeup of the 342 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 4: court is very different today. 343 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: Right Well, usually if a court decides a law can 344 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: can continue without an injunction, they think there's merit to 345 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: the law legally. I mean, if they thought it was 346 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: an abomination, they would have blocked it right now. 347 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean clearly, it's they think that there is 348 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: at least a case to make that the law could prevail. 349 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: And the twist is they made it a violation of 350 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: state law. They're not pretending to be enforcing federal law. 351 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, this is a state matter, and 352 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: we can do that. 353 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: Exactly. But the thing is that they didn't make illegal 354 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 4: anything that isn't already illegal in federal law. If they 355 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 4: tried to do that, whatever that would be with regard 356 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 4: to immigration, that would be constitutionally a problem. But what 357 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 4: Texas is saying is we are simply mirroring, copying what 358 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: the federal law is, and just making it a state 359 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 4: offense as well. And therefore their argument is that this 360 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: should be allowed because they're not overstepping the federal government's authority. 361 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 4: They're actually just copying what the federal law is and 362 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 4: just applying it to state law. 363 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: You know, a few weeks back at Texas set up 364 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: razor wire in this park that runs along the border, 365 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court said that the Feds can cut 366 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: the wire, and the Feds have not cut the wire. 367 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: Why do you think that. 368 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 4: Is, Well, because I actually was there a few weeks 369 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 4: ago and talked to some of the folks, have talked 370 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 4: to some Border Patrol people as well. This was the 371 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 4: only place on the border where there was any effort 372 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: by Border Patrol to undo what Texas was doing. And 373 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: apparently it was just the result of like one or 374 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: two supervisors who were trying to brown nose with Washington, 375 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 4: and you know, the rest of the Border Patrol had 376 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: no interest in doing this. They worked well with the 377 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: Texas authorities, and basically once this issue blew up, they 378 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: kind of got spanks. And so even though the Supreme Court, 379 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 4: like you said, said that the that the Feds are 380 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 4: allowed to cut Texas's wire, it hasn't happened even once 381 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: since then, and I don't think it will be happening 382 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: at all. 383 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: So they don't want to deal with it. 384 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: They just wanted to win the right to do it 385 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: if they wish, but they don't have plans to do 386 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: it right now. 387 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: Yes, that's kind of need to be the case. 388 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: Yes, it seems like for the first time the Biden 389 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: administration is on the run legally over this issue. And 390 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: there's something that occurred to me while we were talking 391 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: about this half an hour ago. I've always wondered what 392 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: happens when a government agency, the federal government or state government, 393 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: decides to not enforce a certain range of law, right, 394 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: let's say, immigration of law, and it becomes apparent that 395 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: there's a lot of bad consequences for the American people. Right, 396 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 2: not enforcing immigration law has been really bad. It's not 397 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: doing anybody any good. Have the judges decided here it's like, Okay, 398 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: we've got to step in. Something has to be done 399 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: because we have a total failure with the executive branch. 400 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: And that's why we have a balance of power that 401 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: the judges feel like they have to step in because 402 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: the Biden administration has failed so badly. 403 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: No, that's the thing is that you can't bring a 404 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 4: lawsuit unless you get standing. It's called in other words, 405 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 4: you have to show a civil lawsuit. You have to 406 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 4: show some harm to you, to your state. However it is, 407 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: you have to show some harm to be able to 408 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: bring a lawsuit. And the problem is that you know, 409 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 4: in many cases, courts have simply said states can't suit 410 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: because they don't have standing, and then individual citizens don't 411 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: have standing, and congressmen don't have standing, so basically nobody 412 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 4: has standing. What this amounts to is that the federal 413 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: government can just kind of get away with ignoring immigration 414 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: law without consequences. And the only consequence would be either 415 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 4: would be political in other words, you vote people out 416 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 4: of office. But the point is, in the meantime they 417 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: can do an enormous amount of damage. This administration has 418 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 4: let millions of illegal immigrants, right. 419 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm asking is this some kind of 420 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: backdoor message from the Supreme Court to the bidaministration. Look, 421 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: this is really out of control, and we're doing it. Yeah, 422 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: I got a little bit here that way. 423 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 4: Now, No, I don't think they think that way. I 424 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 4: think they're just sort of saying, look, this is what's 425 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: before us. We're deciding on the merits of this case, 426 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: and that's it. So you would hope the Biden administration 427 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: would get the messages from nowhere else. From the polls, 428 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 4: I mean, the president is underwater on immigration, underwater on 429 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 4: immigration more than in any other political issue. 430 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: That's what I'm shocked by. In a lot of polls, 431 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: it's the number one issue in the country. Biden's approval 432 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: rating on it is in the twenties. He's losing all 433 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: the swing states, he's losing the national polls, he's losing 434 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: in the electoral college. 435 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: This is the top issue. 436 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: And they doubled down on their immigration policy, and then 437 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: you're having people being killed and raped and what are 438 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: they doing. 439 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: It's sort of hard for me to stand. I mean, 440 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 4: it's this, we're Bill Clinton. He would be out there 441 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 4: arrested in illegal aliens himself, you know what I mean. Yeah, 442 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: because he's politically he was politically nimble and understood. I 443 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 4: think there's two things going on here. One is that 444 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 4: the Democratic Party has radicalized on immigration, and this was 445 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 4: even before Trump, but Trump accelerated it. So the kind 446 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: of people who served in who are appointed to government offices, 447 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 4: you know when a president comes in, they are true 448 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: believing anti borders radicals. I mean, you know, they brush 449 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 4: their teeth, they wear clothes, and I don't mean that 450 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: they're radical and their sort of appearance, but they do 451 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: not believe that immigration law is morally legitimate. And so 452 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 4: they see themselves as heroic if they're subverted. 453 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: And so they're willing to sacrifice the administration and bring 454 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: back the return of Trump. 455 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean that's I think they just sort of 456 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: figure people can fool themselves. They can say, ah, it 457 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: don't work out, and the other thing. But there's two things, 458 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 4: And the other thing is relates to what your question, 459 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 4: which is that the president is weak. He's kind of 460 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 4: a figurehead president. He's not in a position to put 461 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: down his foot and say, look, everybody, who did you 462 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 4: this is what you're going to do now, We're changing 463 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 4: the policy. If you don't like it, you're fired today, 464 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: So make up your mind. You have to have a 465 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: president who's you know, strong, yeah to do that, which 466 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 4: president is kind of just filling space and he's not 467 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 4: in a position to be able to do that. 468 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: Mark, I gotta go, thank you for coming on anytime. 469 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, or Corey and Center for Immigration Studies. 470 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 471 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: six forty. 472 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: 'ren from one to four and coming up after Devers 473 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 2: two o'clock news Steve Gregory with at least two stories, 474 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: actually a lot of immigration stories. 475 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: We're going to get to. 476 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: One with Steve is going to be on this illegal 477 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: alien from Lebanon. He's with hesba Llah, he says, and 478 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: he would caught at the border. He was going to 479 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: New York. He told them his plan was to make 480 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: a bomb. He's worked with Hesbela for at least seven years, 481 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: maybe eleven years. We've got to find out his background 482 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: here some conflicting stories and then see what they're gonna 483 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 2: do with him now. Second story, and Steve's been reporting 484 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: on this that some of the Middle Eastern terrorists are 485 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: coming to Mexico and they're learning Spanish and they're adjusting 486 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: their look to be more Mexican, shaving their beards, for example, 487 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: and then sticking into this country and they plan to 488 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: commit terrorism against us. So that's that's great news, isn't it? 489 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: All? 490 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: Right? Now? 491 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: The the there's there's all of a sudden a crime 492 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: wave going on in Irvine. And Vine is normally America's 493 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: safest city, and now they're getting hit with lots of burglaries. 494 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: And I know Todd Spitzer has put up billboard saying 495 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: then that going to tolerate La County criminals coming in 496 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: and burglarizing and stealing in Orange County. Well, some group 497 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: has gotten past Spitzer, and we're going to play a 498 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: story from Heady Chang of NBC four. 499 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 5: We just got some new numbers from the Irvine Police Department. 500 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 5: They tell us of the thirty four burglaries they're investigating, 501 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 5: more than half of those thefts are from garages, but 502 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 5: they've linked about twenty percent of those burglaries to these 503 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 5: organized burglary crews. 504 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 6: I've been hearing my whole adult life. I've never had 505 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 6: to lock my doors. I've never worried. 506 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 5: Lena Maddox lives in a gordon gated community in turtal Rock, 507 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 5: which gave her a sense of security until she learned 508 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 5: of the recent burglaries. Police are investigating thirty four lelies 509 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 5: in the last thirty five days in Irvine, seven of 510 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 5: which police believe are the work of organized crime rings. 511 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 6: We've stepped up our security system, and I know a 512 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 6: lot of my neighbors have stepped up their security system system, 513 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 6: but we've never had to. 514 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 5: She's never had to, and neither has Ray Swee, who 515 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 5: isn't dealing with a burglary at his home but instead 516 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 5: his business. He shows us how Tuesday, around four in 517 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 5: the morning, two men broke into his pharmacy on Jeffrey Road. 518 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 5: Street says he knows businesses are getting broken into all 519 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 5: the time, but as someone who also lives in Irvine, 520 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 5: he says he's surprised to learn police are investigating dozens 521 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 5: of home burglaries recently. 522 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: That's too bad for me. 523 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: Actually, I don't think the fall just five day has 524 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: gone thirty four. 525 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 5: Like every day In a city of more than three 526 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 5: hundred thousand, City leaders say it's not actually. 527 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: A lot like. It's not zero crime, but. 528 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: The city and police want people who live here to 529 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 5: be more aware of the burglaries happening even in Irvine, 530 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 5: which FBI statistics show is the safest city in the nation. 531 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 5: It is true through FBI statistics for a city of 532 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 5: our sides. 533 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that you leave your front door open. 534 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 5: Police say the burgley trends they're seeing aren't always crimes 535 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 5: of opportunity like city leaders describe. 536 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Detectives are seeing. 537 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 5: More burglars break in by knocking down or disabling security cameras. 538 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 5: They're also noticing people coming in through a second story 539 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 5: window or balcony, similar to the Chilean home burgley crews 540 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: we've been covering the past few years. Some of the 541 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 5: tips police are sharing our common sense, like lock your 542 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 5: windows and doors, but some of these other ones are 543 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 5: useful with the trends they're seeing. Get a security system 544 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 5: that has cameras with activity alerts so it starts recording 545 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 5: right when they're in motion. Also, when a stranger is 546 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 5: at your door, talk to them through your camera or 547 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 5: from behind the door so they know someone is home. 548 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 5: And take inventory of your valuables, including serial numbers, receipts, 549 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 5: and photos. And police are sharing another tip, make sure 550 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 5: you get those alarm sensors for those second story winds 551 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 5: those on balconies. 552 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 2: Well, if Irvine's now getting away with the burglaries, nowhere 553 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: is safe and this should be the final nail in 554 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: the coffin on Prop. 555 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Forty seven. 556 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: And we got to find out how that repeal is going, 557 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: because I know sometime in the next few weeks is 558 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: going to be the deadline for getting the signatures for 559 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: that referendum on the ballot that's going to do a 560 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: major rewrite of Prop. 561 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: Forty seven. But that's it. 562 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 6: Now. 563 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: Irvine's the last bastion, It's the last to fall. 564 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: Never thought I'd hear a story like that all these years, 565 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: I never heard a story about. 566 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: A burglary run in Irvine. All right, we come back. 567 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna do Steve Gregory talk about the illegal alien 568 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: from Lebanon who told Border A Border Patrol agents that 569 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: he's here, he wants to go to New York and 570 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: he's going to make a bomb. 571 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: Guy seriously says this. I don't know why you would 572 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: say that. 573 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: And then secondly about terrorists from the Middle East going 574 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: to Mexico and it's like, I don't know, they're going 575 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: to a school on how to become Mexican they learn 576 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: the language, they shave their beard. They want to pass 577 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: from Mexican so that they can settle in this country 578 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: and build their terror network. Really is going on, border 579 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 2: wide open, and we're going to get to the Rebecca 580 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: Grossmant store, which we left hanging a half hour ago, 581 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: but we had to get to Mark recoron and it 582 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: was more than worth it. So Deborah Mark has the 583 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: news live in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, 584 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You 585 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six 586 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 587 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app