Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're brown, we're black.
Speaker 2: Wait, that's like anyway, we're broad ambition, Hey, Mandy.
Speaker 3: I mean we are equal opportunity to all shades of melanin. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a safe space for your skin tone.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So I had to firew somebody this week.
Speaker 3: And ooh juicy do toe And I love that, I know,
Speaker 3: because that's so hard for you.
Speaker 1: I know, Oh my gosh. And I was really proud
Speaker 1: of myself because it was a really good lesson. It
Speaker 1: wasn't one of my you know, like it was somebody
Speaker 1: brand news. She literally only worked a day.
Speaker 2: Isn't that I've never had to do that before.
Speaker 3: Well did she do to get fired?
Speaker 1: And one day I am, well, so I've been looking
Speaker 1: for and I hope she doesn't listen, and she does listen.
Speaker 3: Hey, gar.
Speaker 1: So I've been looking for an executive admin for a
Speaker 1: long time. I've got two women on the team that
Speaker 1: kind of like tag team and help, but they have
Speaker 1: other positions on the team. So it's like the three
Speaker 1: of us being my executive admin who we named Michelle
Speaker 1: and so. But I mean, and they do a great job,
Speaker 1: but you know, like I said, they have other positions
Speaker 1: on the team. So I really need someone dedicated to me.
Speaker 1: So we thought we found someone. She's super nice, she
Speaker 1: was an admin before, and I just thought that it
Speaker 1: was going to be a fit. But I learned a
Speaker 1: lesson in that I really have to kind of try
Speaker 1: people on for size. So I gave her one assignment,
Speaker 1: which was to do a PowerPoint presentation. I gave it
Speaker 1: to her a nine o'clock in the morning. Like the
Speaker 1: email system was down, so there was no emails that
Speaker 1: had to be done. So literally that was it one
Speaker 1: assignment and then by the end of the day it
Speaker 1: wasn't done.
Speaker 2: But that's not why. It was like, this is not
Speaker 2: going to be a No.
Speaker 1: It wasn't done, And so I gave her a temple
Speaker 1: and said, here's something that I've made, but it's not good,
Speaker 1: but here are all the slides that I need. So
Speaker 1: I'm just showing you kind of like what I made,
Speaker 1: which is similar to kind of what I want, but
Speaker 1: something good. Oh, I do Parapoint all day every day.
Speaker 1: I eat Parapoint for breakfast, no problem. So by five
Speaker 1: I get a message, Hey, I just shared the Parapoint
Speaker 1: you know, the draft with someone on the team before
Speaker 1: I send it to you. And I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, it's five girl, Just go ahead and send
Speaker 1: it on over. I'm sure it's fine. Just so a
Speaker 1: few tweaks here and there because it was due the
Speaker 1: next day for me, I had to submit it. When
Speaker 1: I tell you made it, I had to open it
Speaker 1: three times. It was my exact parapoint, Oh, the exact like.
Speaker 2: When I tell you the exact It was the same slides.
Speaker 1: Just hey, here's the new title and here's some new
Speaker 1: like the new bullets that I gave you, like copy
Speaker 1: and paste, like a ten minute copy and paste job.
Speaker 2: And I honestly even.
Speaker 1: That, I was like, that's fine, And I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe you know I wasn't clear. I
Speaker 1: actually don't like my parapoint because I'm not Goo at PowerPoint.
Speaker 1: I just think it looks so rudimentary, like what I've made.
Speaker 1: So maybe you thought that's what I wanted. That's not
Speaker 1: what I wanted that I know you do a better job.
Speaker 1: Can you just send me like how you would do it?
Speaker 2: And she's said, oh, okay, well, here's the thing. This
Speaker 2: is like verbatim.
Speaker 1: Due to the current time constraints, I don't want to
Speaker 1: promise that I'm going to be able to get it
Speaker 1: done in time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, time constraints? What what do you?
Speaker 1: I was like, well what, and then gave me a
Speaker 1: list of things that she had to do instead, not
Speaker 1: not list of things for me, but like list of
Speaker 1: things in her life that were going to take precedence
Speaker 1: that day, which.
Speaker 2: Is normally fine.
Speaker 1: But this is a project I gave at nine am,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that there's an easier, easier assignment
Speaker 1: than a power point you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm shocked.
Speaker 1: I honestly was like, what I got to due to
Speaker 1: the current time constraints, I don't think I'm going to
Speaker 1: almost like, well, I'm busy girl, That's what I read like.
Speaker 2: And I was like what, And then I said, you
Speaker 2: know what to d be fair? Because today it was
Speaker 2: her first day.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the other team members gave her a ton
Speaker 1: of things to do because they had been itching for
Speaker 1: me to get admin.
Speaker 2: So I'm calling with other team members like hey.
Speaker 1: I even asked her, you know, did my COEO give
Speaker 1: you assignments to other people? Everyone, including her, said no,
Speaker 1: there were no other assignments assigned, And so I'm like,
Speaker 1: so this is from nine to five, this is the
Speaker 1: one thing that you did.
Speaker 2: I just I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say, and you know how
Speaker 1: you know, and you're like, I was like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll give it another day, but you know, and I said, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: this is this is not a fit. And old Tiffany
Speaker 1: would keep on someone that's not a fit for a
Speaker 1: year and be miserable because I would feel overwhelmed because
Speaker 1: I'd be doing double work. But new Tiffany said, you've
Speaker 1: been asking to grow. This is your opportunity to do
Speaker 1: what you already know you need to do. This is
Speaker 1: not going to be a fit that It's not about
Speaker 1: the assignment not being done. It's the unwillingness to take
Speaker 1: take ownership of the misstep and then fix it. And
Speaker 1: so you know, we let her go. She of course
Speaker 1: she was upset. We did it in writing, but I
Speaker 1: also had a call and the thing that kind of
Speaker 1: was off putting. She sent me a letter saying I
Speaker 1: feel like she said something like, I think it's unfair
Speaker 1: that the new girl got this assignment with these time constraints.
Speaker 2: The new girl, this is not high school. We were
Speaker 2: picking on you and hazing you, like and I just
Speaker 2: like I thought it.
Speaker 3: Kind of high school because you gave her a PowerPoint,
Speaker 3: you gave her eight hours to do it, so like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I felt so bad, honestly I did. And I still
Speaker 1: feel really bad because she was a really nice woman.
Speaker 1: But like and that, you know, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: is there a reason why she's like, well, I had
Speaker 1: a couple of calls with people on the team and
Speaker 1: there was just a lot going on. And I said, honestly,
Speaker 1: that was that was the lightest it's ever going to
Speaker 1: be as an adamin. Like two phone calls and a
Speaker 1: power point, it's never gonna get lighter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you can handle it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I said, I felt so bad because
Speaker 1: I you know, it was you know, she just felt
Speaker 1: like I didn't give.
Speaker 2: Her enough of a chance. And I said, no, I
Speaker 2: gave you a chance.
Speaker 1: You're asking for another chance, and I I just don't
Speaker 1: think that I can do that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but it was really hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still kind of reeling from it because
Speaker 1: I've never let go of somebody that quickly, and it
Speaker 1: just felt, really it didn't feel good. It felt really
Speaker 1: bad because I just felt like that I wish I
Speaker 1: would have vetted so I wouldn't have disappointed, you know,
Speaker 1: someone that I know she really wanted the job. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was hard, but it was It was a
Speaker 1: good lesson.
Speaker 3: Being nice is one of it is. It is a
Speaker 3: very important quality you have to want to work with people.
Speaker 3: But I have also learned that hard working butt head
Speaker 3: is also super valuable every once in a while, or
Speaker 3: just a hard working person who you know, forget if
Speaker 3: they forget, if you want to grab drinks with them
Speaker 3: after work, like do they get their work done and
Speaker 3: they can rely on them like that is also really valuable.
Speaker 3: Now like firing someone in twenty four hours, that's pretty savage,
Speaker 3: but I know, but I have heard multiple times like
Speaker 3: you need to. You make a mistake, you acknowledge it
Speaker 3: quickly and you get out like don't And this is
Speaker 3: I mean, she caught you. This is a new year,
Speaker 3: new you. You're heading into forty, like you said, wanting
Speaker 3: to be more assertive and stick up for yourself. And
Speaker 3: you know, too bad, she caught you in this moment
Speaker 3: in your life and you don't suffer ridiculousness anymore. And
Speaker 3: I'm really proud of you.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I was like yo, even now my
Speaker 2: stomach is like a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, it was hard, like I said it was,
Speaker 1: it was hard, and cause like, yes, I've been in
Speaker 1: situations where I've known that someone had to go from
Speaker 1: the very beginning and I've kept them for two years
Speaker 1: because I just felt so bad and I just said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that anymore.
Speaker 2: But tell yeah, I was like, whoof? So I mean,
Speaker 2: but I learned.
Speaker 1: Good lessons about and even honestly, I I'm you know,
Speaker 1: cause I know you are looking for writers. I don't know,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you bet? Knowing I thought
Speaker 1: I bet it till well, I don't know, like I
Speaker 1: need some trips and like ticks and you know, like
Speaker 1: about how do you really because people could say whatever,
Speaker 1: but when it's time to do the work, how do
Speaker 1: you know someone's really going to do the work and
Speaker 1: work autonomously? You know?
Speaker 3: Well, we're big on guests. We're big on uh interview process,
Speaker 3: rigorous interview process, and then at least a test where
Speaker 3: you have to do the thing that we're hiring you
Speaker 3: to do, whether you're a writer or an editor. There's
Speaker 3: like a very and I try to make the tests
Speaker 3: really tough because it weeds out people who are just
Speaker 3: casually applying, and it shows me that if you're motivated
Speaker 3: enough to do this, you know, on your weekend time
Speaker 3: or after work or whatever, you probably want this job.
Speaker 3: And then once I get the test back, because we're
Speaker 3: in content business, I don't I used to personally hire
Speaker 3: every single writer. Now I have editors who hire their
Speaker 3: own writers, But I tell them, you need to do
Speaker 3: a really tough edit on that person, like unnecessarily tough almost.
Speaker 3: I mean, point out things that are that are that
Speaker 3: are you know that you could be better, that they
Speaker 3: could be better at doing, but really be tough on
Speaker 3: them because they need to know what a tough edit
Speaker 3: feels like. And you need to suss out how can
Speaker 3: they take it because the biggest thing for me that
Speaker 3: turns me off from writers is when they can't take feedback.
Speaker 3: And the best writers often are the worst people to
Speaker 3: work with because they get very precious about their words,
Speaker 3: and editors too. There's a lot of egos. So that's
Speaker 3: my way of like suessing out someone's ego. I'm looking
Speaker 3: for like ego and can they take feedback? Can they
Speaker 3: take criticism because they're going to get it all day
Speaker 3: air day on this team and they can't be super
Speaker 3: precious about it. And I feel like for you, like
Speaker 3: you should develop like what is like what is the
Speaker 3: test for an executive admin? And can you put And
Speaker 3: I always put a time limit on it, you know,
Speaker 3: however many hours I think is reasonable to see if
Speaker 3: they can do it on time. And I think that's
Speaker 3: important too. So if you came up with like the
Speaker 3: executive admin stress test, you got to do a PowerPoint,
Speaker 3: You need to draft two emails you would draft to
Speaker 3: a client who said this to me, like create like
Speaker 3: a scenario for them. I did that when I was
Speaker 3: hiring my number two. That was a really tough hire.
Speaker 3: So finding someone who wants to have a senior role
Speaker 3: but not be the senior role, and basically someone who
Speaker 3: can answer to it because what I do all day
Speaker 3: is problem solve. People bring their problems to me. I
Speaker 3: help them figure out how to fix them. That's like
Speaker 3: my main job. Now, what I did is I came
Speaker 3: up with the seven most common conflicts that I've popped
Speaker 3: up in the last I don't know six months that
Speaker 3: I could think of the really difficult questions I was asked,
Speaker 3: the really sticky conflicts I got into and I and
Speaker 3: I literally wrote, here's a scenario, what would your approach be,
Speaker 3: and had them write a response like tell me how
Speaker 3: they would have approached situation, And that helped me weed
Speaker 3: out a lot of people.
Speaker 1: No, I like that because I said that, I said,
Speaker 1: you know that what I should have done is that
Speaker 1: I should have done like a paid kind of like
Speaker 1: two or three day work along so I can actually
Speaker 1: see you in action, you know. Yeah, because I you know,
Speaker 1: because because that was like it's hard to kind of tell,
Speaker 1: because you know, everyone's amazing when you interview them, but
Speaker 1: like to actually see you when they're like, Okay, the
Speaker 1: emails are coming in.
Speaker 2: And could you confirm my makeup on Tuesday? And could
Speaker 2: you make sure.
Speaker 1: You know no. But yeah, I mean it was a
Speaker 1: good lesson, and I'm happy for the lesson.
Speaker 2: I'm not happy that you know that I disappointed someone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think you learn from it, and
Speaker 3: I think you're right a paid like it's almost like
Speaker 3: having them freelance for a little while, which I think
Speaker 3: makes so much sense. We do. And by the way,
Speaker 3: people are listening and they're like, damn, this sounds like
Speaker 3: a lot of work, you know, for a job interview.
Speaker 3: This is like, it's a lot. It's putting a lot
Speaker 3: of work on people. We do pay for our edit
Speaker 3: and writing tests, so we pay for your time and
Speaker 3: value it. But it's it's cheap to pay a few
Speaker 3: hundred bucks up front and then y not hire someone
Speaker 3: who will be a complete disaster later. You know, we
Speaker 3: can eat that cost live. And it's like, my was
Speaker 3: it Maya Angelou who said when someone shows you who
Speaker 3: they are, believe in the first time.
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, yes, I know, I know, yeah I was.
Speaker 1: I wish you could see my face. I'm like, oh my,
Speaker 1: I'm like reliving in the horror.
Speaker 3: I feel that, I feel it. I feel it. Well,
Speaker 3: that happened.
Speaker 2: What's up with you?
Speaker 3: Growth is uncomfortable, isn't it?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 1: But you know it's also good because I know we
Speaker 1: have so many, so many listeners that I kind of
Speaker 1: hit us up about, like what can you do to like,
Speaker 1: you know, get a raise, or to negotiate or to
Speaker 1: you know, to find a new job. And so hopefully
Speaker 1: that is that's helpful that you know, folks are looking
Speaker 1: for people who can do the work with for the
Speaker 1: most part, minimal interference, that you're not going to need
Speaker 1: a lot of hand holding. And also too, I think
Speaker 1: that most people who are hiring or looking for someone
Speaker 1: are okay with mistakes being made, but they're not okay
Speaker 1: with excuses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, And I also think you have to
Speaker 3: identify the roles on your team where you are will
Speaker 3: you do you will tolerate a learning curve, and you
Speaker 3: will tolerate mistakes, and there's some roles where you are
Speaker 3: very like you're like way less tolerant. And then yeah,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like it's like when you identify what's
Speaker 3: entry level, what's mid level, and how much handholding do
Speaker 3: I expect this person to need.
Speaker 1: Because like customer support, Like let's just say this was
Speaker 1: a customer support role.
Speaker 2: Say it wouldn't been a big deal.
Speaker 1: It would have been like especially if this person was
Speaker 1: like a millennial, it'd be like, hey, because we we
Speaker 1: we hire young people a lot, and sometimes they come
Speaker 1: in and they do a little misstep, and but we're
Speaker 1: here to coach and guide you and customer support, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of.
Speaker 2: Room for growth.
Speaker 1: Or if you're on the you're on the social media team,
Speaker 1: where it's like well that's you know, that tone is
Speaker 1: probably not the kind of post that we want.
Speaker 2: But these are places where there's space.
Speaker 1: But but you know, like I cannot coach the CFO
Speaker 1: like this. You have to know, like DIRS is going
Speaker 1: to need this paperwork.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like there's certain certain roles
Speaker 2: on a team where.
Speaker 1: You know, and my executive admin honestly is is I
Speaker 1: mean arguably one of the most important roles on the
Speaker 1: entire team, because it is it's what keeps me to
Speaker 1: be able to like navigate all that we have to do.
Speaker 1: And so there there isn't much room for for not
Speaker 1: much room for error, but there's not much room for coaching.
Speaker 1: You have to come with a lot of the skill
Speaker 1: set already there and and then we show you kind
Speaker 1: of like what our specialty skills are that are necessary,
Speaker 1: but you have to come with a lot of.
Speaker 2: That stuff for yourself.
Speaker 1: Like I said, if this was customer support, she would
Speaker 1: still be here, but not in this role. I was like, Yi,
Speaker 1: I don't, cause quite honestly, it's stressful. I hired an
Speaker 1: admin a few years ago and it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: And the level of stress, when I tell you it
Speaker 1: was like going to a therapist as like it was,
Speaker 1: so I felt like I was having a nervous breakdown,
Speaker 1: and I realized part of it was I was not
Speaker 1: receiving the proper support and I.
Speaker 2: Was so overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: I remember even my business part of Jabrill he said
Speaker 1: at the time, He's like, Tiffany, I'm worried about you,
Speaker 1: because he was in like Thailand or whatever.
Speaker 2: He's like, I messaged you at four am. You respond.
Speaker 1: I messaged you at one pm, you respond. I messaged
Speaker 1: you at midnight because your bill's always all around the world.
Speaker 2: You respond.
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know that I've ever messaged you
Speaker 1: in the last six months that you have not responded
Speaker 1: within ten minutes.
Speaker 2: That worries me. When are you sleeping?
Speaker 1: And I couldn't because I was doing my job in
Speaker 1: her job, and I just was like, there's flashbacks of that,
Speaker 1: and I said, I can't go back there. Honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: try out of a baby, and I'm supposed to be
Speaker 1: wusa and zen and not stressed. And that's what I
Speaker 1: was thinking to myself, that like that me getting the
Speaker 1: right proper assistance is critical, not just professionally but personally too.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, so when.
Speaker 1: I think about it that way, I'm like you, No,
Speaker 1: I know I made the right I already knew I
Speaker 1: made the right choice.
Speaker 2: But it's like I can feel less guilty about it.
Speaker 3: I believe this person exists in the world. They do think,
Speaker 3: so you're gonna find it.
Speaker 1: So sidebar if you if you're like, hm, hm to
Speaker 1: I know somebody? You know somebody you don't have to
Speaker 1: I mean, ideally Jersey, it would be awesome. But honestly,
Speaker 1: if digitallys it's is awesome too. If you know somebody
Speaker 1: who would be amazing as an executive admin, not someone
Speaker 1: who was like in transition, I'll be your admin for
Speaker 1: six months, well like move on to something else. No,
Speaker 1: someone who really wants to be an executive admin, like
Speaker 1: that's where they want to be. You know we we
Speaker 1: have Honestly, it's an awesome team.
Speaker 3: Do you have a job listing?
Speaker 1: We did so I can, I can. I you know,
Speaker 1: I can see if I can get it to you.
Speaker 1: I'll get it from Karen, my COO, and we can
Speaker 1: post it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, if you know someone, Honestly, at
Speaker 2: this point, we could use a little a little boost.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a great a great job for like
Speaker 3: a really high type a go get her college grad.
Speaker 1: Yes, honestly, and it would be honestly, and we I
Speaker 1: mean we were I give raises all the time, like
Speaker 1: the team knows. As the company grows, we we we
Speaker 1: give raises like it's not like, oh, we an annual raise. No,
Speaker 1: they can come quarterly, if not faster than that, depending
Speaker 1: on how fast we grow. We go on an annual
Speaker 1: trip every year that we that my business partner I
Speaker 1: we paid for completely. We actually leave in like a week.
Speaker 1: We're taking the whole team to Arizona and we're going
Speaker 1: ATV and we got a bunch of airbnbs. I mean
Speaker 1: like it's it's just an awesome environment of mostly women
Speaker 1: who are dope. And yeah, I just it's a great
Speaker 1: place to work. Like I've really, I've really, honestly, I've
Speaker 1: built the place where I would want to work. And
Speaker 1: so we're just looking for someone who is super type
Speaker 1: A because I'm not. I need someone who is super organized,
Speaker 1: who is gonna be like, Tiffany, don't forget this, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: I've already made that reservation.
Speaker 2: Tiffany, don't forget you have Superman's birthday tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, like someone who's gonna be really on me,
Speaker 1: you know, but also easy to work with. And yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you want to learn, if you're like I've
Speaker 1: always wonder to have a business or see what that
Speaker 1: looks like. I mean, this is you get. You get
Speaker 1: first hand seats on what it looks like. We're we
Speaker 1: are a seventh figure of year business and by none,
Speaker 1: but I think by November we are on the cusp of
Speaker 1: our first seven figure month, let alone years. So we
Speaker 1: are growing rapidly and you can be a part of
Speaker 1: that growth or somebody you know, so hit a system
Speaker 1: up if you can go to the budget lista dot
Speaker 1: com and just click contact me if you're interested, because
Speaker 1: we definitely.
Speaker 2: Need someone.
Speaker 3: Help Tiffany out.
Speaker 2: I don't want to let go somebody at twenty four
Speaker 2: hours ever.
Speaker 3: Again, shall we take some questions?
Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it, all right?
Speaker 3: I feel for this first listener, she wants to remain anonymous,
Speaker 3: and you'll find out why. She has a question about
Speaker 3: her friends and traveling. I wonder if we know where
Speaker 3: this is going? Eh? All right, so she says, here's
Speaker 3: my question. We'll call her Sarah. I love to travel
Speaker 3: with my friends, but they often tend to plan trips
Speaker 3: that go far outside my budget. My budget for trips
Speaker 3: each year's three thousand dollars, which, along with miles, is
Speaker 3: enough for two big trips a year and two to
Speaker 3: four small domestic trips. Right now, my friends are planning
Speaker 3: a trip that's totally nearly six thousand dollars, and they
Speaker 3: aren't interested in any of my travel on a budget hacks.
Speaker 3: They want to spend money on things that I just
Speaker 3: don't value, like a luxury hotel. This has happened before
Speaker 3: when I've tried to plan trips with them. I love
Speaker 3: them and I want to travel with them. How can
Speaker 3: I make that happen? What can I do to get
Speaker 3: them to try my idea of budget travel? Thank you?
Speaker 3: I really feel this is a really common I feel
Speaker 3: like everyone in their life has has had the friends
Speaker 3: who want to go, you know, go big for a
Speaker 3: certain trip. You know, it's anyone who's ever been a bridesmaid,
Speaker 3: you know, the bachelorette party comes along, and it's always
Speaker 3: freaking awkward because ever, you know, some people want to
Speaker 3: go to Vegas and some people are like not financially
Speaker 3: set to go to Vegas, and yeah, it's really difficult.
Speaker 3: So first and foremost you are not alone miss Sarah.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. All my friends know I'm cheap,
Speaker 2: so they're like, girl, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it's kind of like in your name.
Speaker 1: No, well, I mean it definitely has because I would say,
Speaker 1: like my best friend Dream is definitely more so the
Speaker 1: fancy traveler than I am. So the truth is, you know,
Speaker 1: I really don't go on that many trips together. I mean,
Speaker 1: now I'm a little I'm a little bit more flexible.
Speaker 1: But for a while we did it. It didn't mean
Speaker 1: weren't friends. It didn't mean we didn't hang out.
Speaker 2: We did. It doesn't didn't mean we didn't talk on
Speaker 2: the phone.
Speaker 1: It just meant when I traveled, I used, actually used
Speaker 1: to travel every year with a friend friend of mine
Speaker 1: named Madeline and Madeleine had a similar traveling profile. Like
Speaker 1: Madeline was super low key, you know.
Speaker 2: She was. It was all about the budget.
Speaker 1: And so I remember three or four years in a row,
Speaker 1: me and Madeline went on a trip every year, and honestly,
Speaker 1: Drena didn't feel any kind of way about it because
Speaker 1: she knew she didn't want to travel in that way.
Speaker 1: And then every once in a while the way something
Speaker 1: would come up with the way I wanted to travel
Speaker 1: was similar in the way that Drina wanted to travel
Speaker 1: and we would do that. So it's okay not to
Speaker 1: travel with your friends. It doesn't make them less of
Speaker 1: your friends, like it was crazy because Madeleine actually lives
Speaker 1: in Newark, where I live, and when I tell you,
Speaker 1: I never see Madeline in Newark, but then once a
Speaker 1: year we'd be like going to Paris.
Speaker 2: This here, let's do it like you was my travel buddy.
Speaker 1: And so I'm also part of this travel group on
Speaker 1: a brown Girls kind of travel group on a Facebook
Speaker 1: called No Madness No Madness, and it's great because you
Speaker 1: can find other travel folks who want to travel like you.
Speaker 1: And I've met so many amazing No Madness tribe members.
Speaker 1: So that would be my suggestion that you don't. If
Speaker 1: they want to travel, lucks, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: Let them travel LUs And if you don't, there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. Find someone who fits your travel profile
Speaker 1: and travel with them and then be friends with your friends.
Speaker 1: But at home and in person.
Speaker 3: No, I couldn't agree more. I mean, you you're letting them,
Speaker 3: You're letting their habits make you feel bad for your
Speaker 3: like I want you to stay on track. The fact
Speaker 3: that you have a travel budget for the year and
Speaker 3: you have it broken down by two big trips and
Speaker 3: two domestic trips. First of all, doing that for three
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, that's amazing. You should be really proud, and
Speaker 3: they should be coming to you for travel tips. Why
Speaker 3: wouldn't you want to save even if you have the
Speaker 3: money to go LUs? But you know, if you want
Speaker 3: to keep the with them, I think you're better off
Speaker 3: just bowing out of these group trips if they're not
Speaker 3: going to work to, you know, fit your budget. And
Speaker 3: I know I kind of get what you're saying, but
Speaker 3: I also feel like they're kind of not being good
Speaker 3: friends if they're not going to try and you know,
Speaker 3: try and compromise a little bit so that you feel comfortable.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want your friend to feel comfortable on
Speaker 3: a trip? So I agree with Tiffany on that front.
Speaker 3: I recently I wonder if you, I wonder how you
Speaker 3: guys will feel about this, especially U tiff So I
Speaker 3: recently I've been on this whole like pre baby bucket
Speaker 3: list thing where I want to do see all the
Speaker 3: Broadway shows and do my baby moon and all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, And I invited two really good girlfriends
Speaker 3: to see Mulan Rouge on Broadway, which I'm really excited about,
Speaker 3: and they told me, here's our budget, and it turned
Speaker 3: out tickets were above that price point. I personally kicked
Speaker 3: in more money so that we can get better seats
Speaker 3: because I am a Broadway snob and I only like
Speaker 3: to sit where I like to sit, and where I
Speaker 3: like to sit was just not in that price range.
Speaker 3: But rather than make them feel bad, like I had
Speaker 3: points on my card and I knew, I felt comfortable
Speaker 3: just kicking in more money so we can all have
Speaker 3: a better experience. And I just did that so that
Speaker 3: I can be happy they don't feel bad about it.
Speaker 3: I use my points. I don't care. And that's how
Speaker 3: when I've been on the other side doesn't happen all
Speaker 3: the time where I'm the kind of the one who
Speaker 3: wants to spend more. I'm like, okay, fine, I'll kick
Speaker 3: in more because I want you guys to come along
Speaker 3: with me, and you know you're the people I want
Speaker 3: to see this show with. Yeah, have you done that before?
Speaker 3: Do you think that that was the right thing to do?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I've actually had friends do that for me.
Speaker 1: When I'm like, like, I have my other fancy friend.
Speaker 1: His name is and that's how he is. And so
Speaker 1: we would I would say, at least once a month
Speaker 1: we would go out to dinner, and so Cabral would
Speaker 1: be like, oh, let's go here, and I'm like, Cabra
Speaker 1: the prize.
Speaker 2: He's like, I got it, and I'd be like wait.
Speaker 1: But so what it did, though, was that it showed
Speaker 1: me that there were some things we're spending a little
Speaker 1: extra money on.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: So Cabral has taught me that I'm still the budget nista,
Speaker 1: but I'm the budgetnista that will sometimes splurge on luxurious
Speaker 1: things for the experience of it. So there's value in both, so,
Speaker 1: you know, and as a result, I have been splurged
Speaker 1: on other people because of that lesson.
Speaker 2: I learned from Cabral that sometimes it's okay to, like,
Speaker 2: you know, pay.
Speaker 1: A little extra because Cabral is always, always, always willing
Speaker 1: to pay a little extra for the experience.
Speaker 3: And honestly, and it's about the experience. And it's also
Speaker 3: like when you're the friend who maybe who wants to
Speaker 3: invest more in an experience and you're like, you want
Speaker 3: to share the experience with someone. It's not fun to
Speaker 3: be the one who wants to spend money on a
Speaker 3: luxury trip and then you go by yourself, like you
Speaker 3: want to bring people along with you. So I think, anyway,
Speaker 3: that's not really where this listener, Sarah is at on
Speaker 3: the side of the equation. But honestly, if you have
Speaker 3: told them respectfully and upfront about your financial issues and
Speaker 3: they're not willing to bend, you're either going to have
Speaker 3: to sacrifice your own finances and your travel plan for
Speaker 3: the year to to, you know, to match what they
Speaker 3: want to do, or you're going to have to just
Speaker 3: bow it out, bow out of this trip, and you
Speaker 3: have to ask yourself what's more important to you, you know,
Speaker 3: keeping your own financial plan on track. I hope, so
Speaker 3: we're going on this luxury trip, or maybe you decide
Speaker 3: this trip sounds so phenomenal, you're going to take the plunge,
Speaker 3: go on the expensive trip, and then maybe scale back
Speaker 3: your travel plans for the next couple of years as
Speaker 3: a result. If that doesn't sound like a fair trade off,
Speaker 3: then I think you know what you got to do.
Speaker 3: It's just not always the most fun decision to make,
Speaker 3: do you.
Speaker 2: Want to take one more questions? Do you think we
Speaker 2: have some time?
Speaker 3: Definitely? Let's take a question. Let's see does she want
Speaker 3: to be anonymous? Now? Listener, this is on from Instagram.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't even mention to you guys. If you forgot,
Speaker 3: we're on Instagram. At Brandonbis podcast. You can send us
Speaker 3: a DM there to ask your question, or hit us
Speaker 3: up via email by going to brandnambisionpodcast dot com and
Speaker 3: clicking ask us anything. So this question is from listener
Speaker 3: Vanessa being mistreated by her account. She says, I have
Speaker 3: two bank accounts. One has a direct deposit and the
Speaker 3: other account I use for online bill payment. This bank
Speaker 3: charges a ten dollars monthly maintenance fee, and the bank
Speaker 3: says I can avoid the fee if I make a
Speaker 3: minimum of ten transactions per month. The ten transactions can
Speaker 3: be point of sale or online bill pay. What's the
Speaker 3: best way to make What's the best way for me
Speaker 3: to make twenty qualifying transactions that won't cause me to overspend?
Speaker 3: Because she has two accounts and she has to make
Speaker 3: ten transactions on each of them to avoid this ten
Speaker 3: dollars per month fee, she continues, I tend to use
Speaker 3: cash for a lot of my purchases so that I
Speaker 3: don't get carried away with swiping my card and overspend.
Speaker 3: I need your help, Vanessa. Oooh girl.
Speaker 2: So she's got two different banks or two different bank account.
Speaker 3: The same bank, two different accounts with which both will
Speaker 3: charge her ten dollars a month if she's not swiping
Speaker 3: her card basically.
Speaker 2: Ten twenty dollars.
Speaker 3: Yes, we just tell her to get out of that bank, right,
Speaker 3: just leave your hat. There's better banks, Vanessa.
Speaker 1: Move from the gets out upgrade. Yes, no, yeah, honestly, yeah,
Speaker 1: that bank is wild, like which I mean, are they really?
Speaker 1: Because most of these banks are like the worst to
Speaker 1: be all the way candid. But I think a quick
Speaker 1: Google search can show can find because usually sometimes a
Speaker 1: bank will just say if you have a deposit right,
Speaker 1: like I know, sometimes you.
Speaker 2: Can avoid that get if you get your your paycheck
Speaker 2: direct deposit into that account.
Speaker 3: Probably some of them have like you have to be
Speaker 3: a minimum amount, you know, if you have direct deposit
Speaker 3: up to a certain amount. She have to look at
Speaker 3: her bank's fine print, because she does say she's using
Speaker 3: one of them to deposit her paycheck through and the
Speaker 3: other one for online bill pay. But she uses cash
Speaker 3: so much because she wants to avoid overspending. So you
Speaker 3: need to find an account that fits your profile. You
Speaker 3: need to find a bank that doesn't charge a monthly
Speaker 3: maintenance fees for keeping a low balance, that won't charge
Speaker 3: you ATM fees when you withdraw money, because it seems
Speaker 3: like you use cash a lot, and there's a lot
Speaker 3: of options out there. I mean I use Ally and
Speaker 3: the other day I just love going to a badiga
Speaker 3: ATM now because I'm like, yes, I will, you know,
Speaker 3: pay that three dollar fee because Ally is going to
Speaker 3: pick that up for me.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I'm literally doing it.
Speaker 1: I did a Google search best free checking accounts and
Speaker 1: Allies definitely one of them. There's my Radius chime simple
Speaker 1: these are still checking accounts.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Those are a couple of new ones Via or
Speaker 3: is it vo I think it's v O v I
Speaker 3: a v io. They are a new bank, a newer
Speaker 3: bank that's like really kicking the competitions, but with no
Speaker 3: fees and high high rates on savings. I'm going to say,
Speaker 3: you know again, I will post a link to a
Speaker 3: couple of places you can look for alternative bank accounts.
Speaker 3: Even I bet your local credit Union has a better
Speaker 3: deal than the bank that you're with. Now there's better options,
Speaker 3: I would say, get out of there now, versus trying
Speaker 3: to figure out how to like change your spending habits
Speaker 3: to fit their needs so they don't charge you money.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, because it is just encouraging you to spend one.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the whole point. They want you to
Speaker 2: do that. You're like, we're not trying to do that.
Speaker 3: Nope, all right, thank you for your question. Again. We're
Speaker 3: on Instagram at Brandonbission podcast or hit us up at
Speaker 3: brandnibisionpodcast dot com. Ask us anything.
Speaker 1: Yes, Now it's time to boost a break for all
Speaker 1: our family.
Speaker 2: Will you boost? Will you break? What will you do? Man?
Speaker 2: I feel like that was a good one.
Speaker 3: That was It was on tune I think and everything.
Speaker 3: It was good.
Speaker 2: I'm yes, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna do boost. I might do to a quick too
Speaker 3: for quick too. For so one, I want to shout
Speaker 3: out to my workplace bestie. Who do you have a
Speaker 3: workplace bestie? You probably dream is your bestie and you
Speaker 3: work together. Maybe it's not a traditional workplace bestie, but
Speaker 3: I recently came across this h the study by Gallup.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was a survey, but their research show people
Speaker 3: who have workplace best heeds. So having a best friend
Speaker 3: at work actually helps you do better over your whole
Speaker 3: your whole career. It's about having support, someone to bounce
Speaker 3: ideas off of, and feeling like you're more secure in
Speaker 3: a professional setting. I wholeheartedly agree agree, Like I my
Speaker 3: best my workplace, one of my first one of my
Speaker 3: best friends I met at my first job in New
Speaker 3: York City and she has been like she was my
Speaker 3: lifeline for that job for so long. So just shout outs.
Speaker 3: If you have a workplace best you give them a
Speaker 3: shoot him a text, tell them how much you appreciate them,
Speaker 3: how much you love them, et cetera. And my second
Speaker 3: boost is gonna be I listened. So last week Tiffany
Speaker 3: asked me, you know, when someone asked you that question,
Speaker 3: they follow up with you on something that you know
Speaker 3: you should do, but you get a little defensive about
Speaker 3: it and you because you know you haven't done it yet.
Speaker 3: And last week you asked me if I contacted my
Speaker 3: financial planner to tell her about you know, what's happening
Speaker 3: in my life. And you know, I'm only thirty weeks
Speaker 3: into this pregnancy, and my financial planner has no idea.
Speaker 3: So I emailed Helen last week and let her know
Speaker 3: what was happening, and we have a call scheduled for
Speaker 3: next week to talk to me. I don't know why
Speaker 3: I was putting it off. I think I've just felt like, well,
Speaker 3: the money part, I got that down, like like as
Speaker 3: far as like a five two nine plan, I know
Speaker 3: what that stuff is. I'll figure it out. But the
Speaker 3: more I got to thinking about it then where I'm like,
Speaker 3: maybe we should get our life insurance looked at. We
Speaker 3: need to. It'll just feel good to get the financial
Speaker 3: stamp of approval from Helen, you know, going into it.
Speaker 1: So there's like, like you said, sometimes like lately, I've
Speaker 1: been leaning into something that I call financial wholeness, which
Speaker 1: is like it's not just I've got money in the bank,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like you said, like I found, like
Speaker 1: through my own financial planner, like I'm severely underinsured. I'm
Speaker 1: like I need a succession plan that something happened to me,
Speaker 1: what happens to the businesses.
Speaker 2: So it's like I feel like, yes.
Speaker 1: I know I've got money saved, but that's not enough
Speaker 1: for me to have like a holistic view of like
Speaker 1: what I need to do with my money, like I
Speaker 1: want you know, So that's what I like about, you know,
Speaker 1: having someone else, an expert, kind of come in and
Speaker 1: help me look at all aspects of my finances.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to get that life insurance right, going
Speaker 3: to get my will set and just thinking about the will,
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, who is gonna who would get
Speaker 3: the child? And then of course I'm hormonal, so I
Speaker 3: start crying thinking about us dying. It's really sad.
Speaker 2: Well, yes that is.
Speaker 3: Any other pregnant women listen, because I've confirmed us with
Speaker 3: two friends of mine. They confirm it's. You have really
Speaker 3: dark and twisty thoughts when you're in your third trimester,
Speaker 3: Like I imagine our deaths in several different ways, like all
Speaker 3: the time. It's it's very sad. The hormones, man, the horrmone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hormones are something else. I tell you.
Speaker 3: They're the devil is what they are. Okay, you go
Speaker 3: booster to break.
Speaker 1: I'm going to boost, but first I'm going to send
Speaker 1: a little shout out to Dream, my bestie. Well she's
Speaker 1: actually in Mexico right now, getting married. I couldn't go
Speaker 1: because Zica is real and my IVF doctor was like, Sis,
Speaker 1: so we've come this far, we're about to do another
Speaker 1: cycle and I need you not to get Zica. So
Speaker 1: it was sad, but you know, I just I couldn't
Speaker 1: take the risk. So it's like I'm looking at all
Speaker 1: the pictures and stuff, but I want to.
Speaker 2: Shout her out and say her and her.
Speaker 1: She's been with her her boo KB since they were
Speaker 1: like fourteen fifteen, and they're such a cute couple. They've
Speaker 1: got adult baby who's not a baby, he's four. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're awesome and just happy wedding. It looks amazing.
Speaker 1: My sisters are there, and then I want to just
Speaker 1: get a boost to Today is my business partner, Jabrill's birthday.
Speaker 1: And there are some people in your life that are pivotal,
Speaker 1: like they came into your life and your life is
Speaker 1: not the same, whether in a terrible way or an
Speaker 1: amazing way.
Speaker 2: And honestly, I have to.
Speaker 1: Say that Jabril is a pivotal He when I look
Speaker 1: back as to when my life took a turn, he
Speaker 1: is one of the people. It's like Jirell, my husband,
Speaker 1: you know, like my you know, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: my college best.
Speaker 2: Friend, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But Jabrill, my business partner, is definitely one of those people.
Speaker 1: Not that I wouldn't have been successful on my own,
Speaker 1: but the truth of that there.
Speaker 2: Is I didn't think I didn't think I deserved to
Speaker 2: be or that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man just have this weird sense of overconfidence.
Speaker 2: Well they're just like, well, but it is amandy.
Speaker 1: When I tell you, like Jabri ive, when I first
Speaker 1: met to Grill, I mean I was barely scraping by
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, we're gonna make a few
Speaker 1: million dollars. And I was like, okay, crazy person, I
Speaker 1: don't know what are you talking about. And now that's
Speaker 1: what the company does. And I remember him saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: wait till we get to a million dollars a month,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that doesn't these crazy words, and like November,
Speaker 1: we are on track to make that in November.
Speaker 2: And it's just.
Speaker 1: It's both definitely annoying that he's right, but also it's
Speaker 1: really he has really taught me to look beyond myself
Speaker 1: and my own perceived limitations, and so that's what I
Speaker 1: really like. Men in general just tend to think like
Speaker 1: that it seems like and so Jabrill always has like
Speaker 1: and so the other day because he's already glossed over
Speaker 1: a million dollars a month and he's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't wait till we get to our million dollar day.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what sor what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: But now I'm deep enough in it that I know
Speaker 1: that that is more than just a possibility, we can
Speaker 1: do it. And so I'm just really grateful, not because
Speaker 1: of the money, but because Jabrill has helped me to
Speaker 1: unlock like the superpower in me that says that it's possible,
Speaker 1: it's more than possible, it's probable, and I put in
Speaker 1: the work and it's you know, we're capable of doing
Speaker 1: these things. And so I'm just grateful for him coming
Speaker 1: into my life because, like I said, I feel like,
Speaker 1: if not, I would be Tiffany that still works equally
Speaker 1: as hard but doesn't get as far ahead because I
Speaker 1: just couldn't see it not for me anyway.
Speaker 2: You know. So happy birthday, Jabrill. You're the dopest.
Speaker 1: If you want to, you know, feel bad about your life,
Speaker 1: go ahead and follow him on Instagram. He's Jabril eight.
Speaker 1: It's a eighty eight I think Jibril eight he traveled.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even live anywhere. Jabril like lives the world.
Speaker 1: He's really one of those people you know, like the
Speaker 1: fake people you see online and you're like, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you travel to all these different countries and don't really
Speaker 1: live anywhere, and like have this amazing life.
Speaker 2: Now that's Debrell in real life. It's so Jabril eight
Speaker 2: like that. Literally, I could be talking to Jabrill. He's like,
Speaker 2: I've in China and then the next week we have
Speaker 2: our team meeting. I'm like, is that a giraffe?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been Zimbabwe And you're like, what, Like, we
Speaker 1: all aspire to be Jabrill when we grow up, and
Speaker 1: he's so easy going and chill, but he's a beast
Speaker 1: in business. So happy birthday to you, my brother from
Speaker 1: another mother. I am grateful for you and I love
Speaker 1: you like direct deposit.
Speaker 3: No I should we all. I wish we all had
Speaker 3: a Jabrill in our lives. And it may not be
Speaker 3: a guy, but I'm telling you, my little brother, I
Speaker 3: hope he doesn't listen to this podcast. He is so
Speaker 3: obnoxious sometimes because all you know, for example, I got
Speaker 3: I got a job offer and he was and I
Speaker 3: told him what it was, and I thought I was,
Speaker 3: you know, being the big sister, like very impressive. He's like,
Speaker 3: you're gonna ask for equity or no? And I was
Speaker 3: like I was not. I was not gonna ask for equity.
Speaker 2: But now you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time he did that. We work
Speaker 1: with the company. He was like, so we really like equity.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at him like bruh, like your wile
Speaker 1: and and they were like you know what.
Speaker 2: Okay, And he looked at me like Tiffany, now I
Speaker 2: deserve it. And I just, ah, can you imagine to
Speaker 2: be a mad I just.
Speaker 3: I hate it. But you need you need people with
Speaker 3: forget if it's a man or you need a man
Speaker 3: or a woman. Need some balls in your life to
Speaker 3: like push you in business for real. You need a
Speaker 3: hype man, you need a hype woman whoever it is,
Speaker 3: to think bigger than you.
Speaker 2: I exactly.
Speaker 1: And there are definitely are women out there who definitely
Speaker 1: carry that with them, but I just for me, it
Speaker 1: just was difficult to see past that. So yeah, like
Speaker 1: I you know, if you're a woman who rocks out
Speaker 1: like that, I'm like, oh my god, Like what you
Speaker 1: know how.
Speaker 2: Did you get untrained?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like girls are taught to be a
Speaker 1: poe and quiet and small and not to go for
Speaker 1: it because that's that's unlady like and not feminine, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's to get equal pay, like we can't even
Speaker 3: we can't even dream of getting like the dollar to
Speaker 3: the dollar for the you know, for what a man earns.
Speaker 3: And now it's like so thinking beyond that. You're right,
Speaker 3: We're just we have to we need people who think
Speaker 3: differently to rewire the way that we perceive ourselves. Beautiful,
Speaker 3: happy birthday, brill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's our sizzo.
Speaker 2: And honestly, I'm not playing.
Speaker 1: If you think you could be an awesome executive admin
Speaker 1: full time, or if you know somebody who'd be awesome.
Speaker 1: The budget lista dot com, click the contact me button
Speaker 1: and I'll send you, like you know, what we're like,
Speaker 1: the list of kind of things that we have a
Speaker 1: listing somewhere, and I'll send you what we're looking for.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you guys are awesome, as per usual. It's
Speaker 1: been awesome chatting with you, Mandra as per usual. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I love this show. It just gets better and better.
Speaker 1: I love when y'all stopping on the street and you
Speaker 1: not even like budgeties anymore.
Speaker 2: They're like bredhibition.
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, you know, I get recognized too sometimes,
Speaker 3: but please try? Could you please not catch me at
Speaker 3: like six o'clock when I'm sweaty trying to catch the
Speaker 3: train though, that's when it always happens. I'm like, yeah, yes,
Speaker 3: it is me.
Speaker 2: And then they forced a hug on me. They're like,
Speaker 2: heard you hate hugs.
Speaker 3: Here you go, girl, Okay, I feel bad for encouraging
Speaker 3: that behavior.
Speaker 2: No, no, honestly, I don't mind.
Speaker 1: It has made me like a more of a huggy person.
Speaker 1: And they're like and one for Nandy. I'm like, she's
Speaker 1: not getting this.