1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're brown, we're black. 2 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Wait, that's like anyway, we're broad ambition, Hey, Mandy. 3 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: I mean we are equal opportunity to all shades of melanin. Yeah, 4 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: it's a safe space for your skin tone. 5 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Yes. 6 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: So I had to firew somebody this week. 7 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: And ooh juicy do toe And I love that, I know, 8 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: because that's so hard for you. 9 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: I know, Oh my gosh. And I was really proud 10 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: of myself because it was a really good lesson. It 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: wasn't one of my you know, like it was somebody 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: brand news. She literally only worked a day. 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: Isn't that I've never had to do that before. 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: Well did she do to get fired? 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: And one day I am, well, so I've been looking 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: for and I hope she doesn't listen, and she does listen. 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: Hey, gar. 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: So I've been looking for an executive admin for a 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: long time. I've got two women on the team that 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: kind of like tag team and help, but they have 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: other positions on the team. So it's like the three 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: of us being my executive admin who we named Michelle 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: and so. But I mean, and they do a great job, 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: but you know, like I said, they have other positions 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: on the team. So I really need someone dedicated to me. 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: So we thought we found someone. She's super nice, she 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: was an admin before, and I just thought that it 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: was going to be a fit. But I learned a 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: lesson in that I really have to kind of try 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: people on for size. So I gave her one assignment, 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: which was to do a PowerPoint presentation. I gave it 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: to her a nine o'clock in the morning. Like the 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: email system was down, so there was no emails that 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: had to be done. So literally that was it one 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: assignment and then by the end of the day it 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: wasn't done. 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: But that's not why. It was like, this is not 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: going to be a No. 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't done, And so I gave her a temple 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: and said, here's something that I've made, but it's not good, 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: but here are all the slides that I need. So 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm just showing you kind of like what I made, 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: which is similar to kind of what I want, but 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: something good. Oh, I do Parapoint all day every day. 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: I eat Parapoint for breakfast, no problem. So by five 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: I get a message, Hey, I just shared the Parapoint 47 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, the draft with someone on the team before 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: I send it to you. And I was like, you 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: know what, it's five girl, Just go ahead and send 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: it on over. I'm sure it's fine. Just so a 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: few tweaks here and there because it was due the 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: next day for me, I had to submit it. When 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: I tell you made it, I had to open it 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: three times. It was my exact parapoint, Oh, the exact like. 55 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: When I tell you the exact It was the same slides. 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: Just hey, here's the new title and here's some new 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: like the new bullets that I gave you, like copy 58 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: and paste, like a ten minute copy and paste job. 59 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: And I honestly even. 60 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: That, I was like, that's fine, And I was like, 61 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe you know I wasn't clear. I 62 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: actually don't like my parapoint because I'm not Goo at PowerPoint. 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: I just think it looks so rudimentary, like what I've made. 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: So maybe you thought that's what I wanted. That's not 65 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: what I wanted that I know you do a better job. 66 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Can you just send me like how you would do it? 67 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: And she's said, oh, okay, well, here's the thing. This 68 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: is like verbatim. 69 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: Due to the current time constraints, I don't want to 70 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: promise that I'm going to be able to get it 71 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: done in time. 72 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, time constraints? What what do you? 73 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: I was like, well what, and then gave me a 74 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: list of things that she had to do instead, not 75 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: not list of things for me, but like list of 76 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: things in her life that were going to take precedence 77 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: that day, which. 78 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: Is normally fine. 79 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: But this is a project I gave at nine am, 80 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know that there's an easier, easier assignment 81 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: than a power point you know. 82 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm shocked. 83 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: I honestly was like, what I got to due to 84 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: the current time constraints, I don't think I'm going to 85 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: almost like, well, I'm busy girl, That's what I read like. 86 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: And I was like what, And then I said, you 87 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: know what to d be fair? Because today it was 88 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: her first day. 89 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure the other team members gave her a ton 90 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: of things to do because they had been itching for 91 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: me to get admin. 92 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: So I'm calling with other team members like hey. 93 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: I even asked her, you know, did my COEO give 94 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: you assignments to other people? Everyone, including her, said no, 95 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: there were no other assignments assigned, And so I'm like, 96 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: so this is from nine to five, this is the 97 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: one thing that you did. 98 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: I just I didn't. 99 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say, and you know how 100 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, and you're like, I was like, well, maybe 101 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: I'll give it another day, but you know, and I said, Tiffany, 102 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: this is this is not a fit. And old Tiffany 103 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: would keep on someone that's not a fit for a 104 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: year and be miserable because I would feel overwhelmed because 105 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I'd be doing double work. But new Tiffany said, you've 106 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: been asking to grow. This is your opportunity to do 107 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: what you already know you need to do. This is 108 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: not going to be a fit that It's not about 109 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: the assignment not being done. It's the unwillingness to take 110 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: take ownership of the misstep and then fix it. And 111 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: so you know, we let her go. She of course 112 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: she was upset. We did it in writing, but I 113 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: also had a call and the thing that kind of 114 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: was off putting. She sent me a letter saying I 115 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: feel like she said something like, I think it's unfair 116 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: that the new girl got this assignment with these time constraints. 117 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: The new girl, this is not high school. We were 118 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: picking on you and hazing you, like and I just 119 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: like I thought it. 120 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: Kind of high school because you gave her a PowerPoint, 121 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 3: you gave her eight hours to do it, so like. 122 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. 123 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: I felt so bad, honestly I did. And I still 124 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: feel really bad because she was a really nice woman. 125 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: But like and that, you know, I was like, well, 126 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: is there a reason why she's like, well, I had 127 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: a couple of calls with people on the team and 128 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: there was just a lot going on. And I said, honestly, 129 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: that was that was the lightest it's ever going to 130 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: be as an adamin. Like two phone calls and a 131 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: power point, it's never gonna get lighter. 132 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you can handle it. 133 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I said, I felt so bad because 134 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: I you know, it was you know, she just felt 135 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: like I didn't give. 136 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: Her enough of a chance. And I said, no, I 137 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: gave you a chance. 138 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: You're asking for another chance, and I I just don't 139 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: think that I can do that. 140 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, but it was really hard. 141 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still kind of reeling from it because 142 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I've never let go of somebody that quickly, and it 143 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: just felt, really it didn't feel good. It felt really 144 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: bad because I just felt like that I wish I 145 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: would have vetted so I wouldn't have disappointed, you know, 146 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: someone that I know she really wanted the job. But yeah, 147 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: so that was hard, but it was It was a 148 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: good lesson. 149 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 3: Being nice is one of it is. It is a 150 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: very important quality you have to want to work with people. 151 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: But I have also learned that hard working butt head 152 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: is also super valuable every once in a while, or 153 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: just a hard working person who you know, forget if 154 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: they forget, if you want to grab drinks with them 155 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: after work, like do they get their work done and 156 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: they can rely on them like that is also really valuable. 157 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: Now like firing someone in twenty four hours, that's pretty savage, 158 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: but I know, but I have heard multiple times like 159 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: you need to. You make a mistake, you acknowledge it 160 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: quickly and you get out like don't And this is 161 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: I mean, she caught you. This is a new year, 162 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: new you. You're heading into forty, like you said, wanting 163 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: to be more assertive and stick up for yourself. And 164 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: you know, too bad, she caught you in this moment 165 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: in your life and you don't suffer ridiculousness anymore. And 166 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm really proud of you. 167 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I was like yo, even now my 168 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: stomach is like a lot. 169 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, it was hard, like I said it was, 170 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: it was hard, and cause like, yes, I've been in 171 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: situations where I've known that someone had to go from 172 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: the very beginning and I've kept them for two years 173 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: because I just felt so bad and I just said, yeah, 174 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that anymore. 175 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: But tell yeah, I was like, whoof? So I mean, 176 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: but I learned. 177 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Good lessons about and even honestly, I I'm you know, 178 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: cause I know you are looking for writers. I don't know, 179 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: how do you how do you bet? Knowing I thought 180 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: I bet it till well, I don't know, like I 181 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: need some trips and like ticks and you know, like 182 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: about how do you really because people could say whatever, 183 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: but when it's time to do the work, how do 184 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: you know someone's really going to do the work and 185 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: work autonomously? You know? 186 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: Well, we're big on guests. We're big on uh interview process, 187 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: rigorous interview process, and then at least a test where 188 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: you have to do the thing that we're hiring you 189 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: to do, whether you're a writer or an editor. There's 190 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: like a very and I try to make the tests 191 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: really tough because it weeds out people who are just 192 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: casually applying, and it shows me that if you're motivated 193 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: enough to do this, you know, on your weekend time 194 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: or after work or whatever, you probably want this job. 195 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: And then once I get the test back, because we're 196 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: in content business, I don't I used to personally hire 197 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: every single writer. Now I have editors who hire their 198 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: own writers, But I tell them, you need to do 199 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: a really tough edit on that person, like unnecessarily tough almost. 200 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: I mean, point out things that are that are that 201 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: are you know that you could be better, that they 202 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: could be better at doing, but really be tough on 203 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: them because they need to know what a tough edit 204 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: feels like. And you need to suss out how can 205 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: they take it because the biggest thing for me that 206 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: turns me off from writers is when they can't take feedback. 207 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: And the best writers often are the worst people to 208 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: work with because they get very precious about their words, 209 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: and editors too. There's a lot of egos. So that's 210 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: my way of like suessing out someone's ego. I'm looking 211 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: for like ego and can they take feedback? Can they 212 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 3: take criticism because they're going to get it all day 213 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: air day on this team and they can't be super 214 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 3: precious about it. And I feel like for you, like 215 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: you should develop like what is like what is the 216 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: test for an executive admin? And can you put And 217 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: I always put a time limit on it, you know, 218 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: however many hours I think is reasonable to see if 219 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: they can do it on time. And I think that's 220 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: important too. So if you came up with like the 221 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 3: executive admin stress test, you got to do a PowerPoint, 222 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: You need to draft two emails you would draft to 223 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 3: a client who said this to me, like create like 224 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: a scenario for them. I did that when I was 225 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: hiring my number two. That was a really tough hire. 226 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 3: So finding someone who wants to have a senior role 227 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: but not be the senior role, and basically someone who 228 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: can answer to it because what I do all day 229 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: is problem solve. People bring their problems to me. I 230 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: help them figure out how to fix them. That's like 231 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: my main job. Now, what I did is I came 232 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: up with the seven most common conflicts that I've popped 233 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: up in the last I don't know six months that 234 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: I could think of the really difficult questions I was asked, 235 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: the really sticky conflicts I got into and I and 236 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: I literally wrote, here's a scenario, what would your approach be, 237 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: and had them write a response like tell me how 238 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: they would have approached situation, And that helped me weed 239 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: out a lot of people. 240 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: No, I like that because I said that, I said, 241 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: you know that what I should have done is that 242 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: I should have done like a paid kind of like 243 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: two or three day work along so I can actually 244 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: see you in action, you know. Yeah, because I you know, 245 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: because because that was like it's hard to kind of tell, 246 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: because you know, everyone's amazing when you interview them, but 247 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: like to actually see you when they're like, Okay, the 248 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: emails are coming in. 249 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: And could you confirm my makeup on Tuesday? And could 250 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: you make sure. 251 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: You know no. But yeah, I mean it was a 252 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: good lesson, and I'm happy for the lesson. 253 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm not happy that you know that I disappointed someone. 254 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think you learn from it, and 255 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: I think you're right a paid like it's almost like 256 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: having them freelance for a little while, which I think 257 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: makes so much sense. We do. And by the way, 258 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: people are listening and they're like, damn, this sounds like 259 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: a lot of work, you know, for a job interview. 260 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: This is like, it's a lot. It's putting a lot 261 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: of work on people. We do pay for our edit 262 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: and writing tests, so we pay for your time and 263 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: value it. But it's it's cheap to pay a few 264 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: hundred bucks up front and then y not hire someone 265 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: who will be a complete disaster later. You know, we 266 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: can eat that cost live. And it's like, my was 267 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: it Maya Angelou who said when someone shows you who 268 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: they are, believe in the first time. 269 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 1: Ah, yes, yes, I know, I know, yeah I was. 270 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: I wish you could see my face. I'm like, oh my, 271 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm like reliving in the horror. 272 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: I feel that, I feel it. I feel it. Well, 273 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: that happened. 274 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: What's up with you? 275 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: Growth is uncomfortable, isn't it? 276 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 2: It is? 277 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: But you know it's also good because I know we 278 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: have so many, so many listeners that I kind of 279 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: hit us up about, like what can you do to like, 280 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, get a raise, or to negotiate or to 281 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, to find a new job. And so hopefully 282 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: that is that's helpful that you know, folks are looking 283 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: for people who can do the work with for the 284 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: most part, minimal interference, that you're not going to need 285 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: a lot of hand holding. And also too, I think 286 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: that most people who are hiring or looking for someone 287 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: are okay with mistakes being made, but they're not okay 288 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: with excuses. 289 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, And I also think you have to 290 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: identify the roles on your team where you are will 291 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: you do you will tolerate a learning curve, and you 292 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: will tolerate mistakes, and there's some roles where you are 293 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: very like you're like way less tolerant. And then yeah, 294 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 3: it's kind of like it's like when you identify what's 295 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: entry level, what's mid level, and how much handholding do 296 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: I expect this person to need. 297 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: Because like customer support, Like let's just say this was 298 00:12:58,559 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: a customer support role. 299 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: Say it wouldn't been a big deal. 300 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: It would have been like especially if this person was 301 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: like a millennial, it'd be like, hey, because we we 302 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: we hire young people a lot, and sometimes they come 303 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: in and they do a little misstep, and but we're 304 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: here to coach and guide you and customer support, there's 305 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: a lot of. 306 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: Room for growth. 307 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Or if you're on the you're on the social media team, 308 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: where it's like well that's you know, that tone is 309 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: probably not the kind of post that we want. 310 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 2: But these are places where there's space. 311 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: But but you know, like I cannot coach the CFO 312 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: like this. You have to know, like DIRS is going 313 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: to need this paperwork. 314 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like there's certain certain roles 315 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: on a team where. 316 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: You know, and my executive admin honestly is is I 317 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: mean arguably one of the most important roles on the 318 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: entire team, because it is it's what keeps me to 319 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: be able to like navigate all that we have to do. 320 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: And so there there isn't much room for for not 321 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: much room for error, but there's not much room for coaching. 322 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: You have to come with a lot of the skill 323 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: set already there and and then we show you kind 324 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: of like what our specialty skills are that are necessary, 325 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: but you have to come with a lot of. 326 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: That stuff for yourself. 327 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, if this was customer support, she would 328 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: still be here, but not in this role. I was like, Yi, 329 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't, cause quite honestly, it's stressful. I hired an 330 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: admin a few years ago and it didn't work out. 331 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: And the level of stress, when I tell you it 332 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: was like going to a therapist as like it was, 333 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: so I felt like I was having a nervous breakdown, 334 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: and I realized part of it was I was not 335 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: receiving the proper support and I. 336 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: Was so overwhelmed. 337 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: I remember even my business part of Jabrill he said 338 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: at the time, He's like, Tiffany, I'm worried about you, 339 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: because he was in like Thailand or whatever. 340 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: He's like, I messaged you at four am. You respond. 341 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: I messaged you at one pm, you respond. I messaged 342 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: you at midnight because your bill's always all around the world. 343 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: You respond. 344 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: He said, I don't know that I've ever messaged you 345 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: in the last six months that you have not responded 346 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: within ten minutes. 347 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: That worries me. When are you sleeping? 348 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: And I couldn't because I was doing my job in 349 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: her job, and I just was like, there's flashbacks of that, 350 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: and I said, I can't go back there. Honestly, I'm 351 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: try out of a baby, and I'm supposed to be 352 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: wusa and zen and not stressed. And that's what I 353 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: was thinking to myself, that like that me getting the 354 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: right proper assistance is critical, not just professionally but personally too. 355 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: So so yeah, so when. 356 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: I think about it that way, I'm like you, No, 357 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: I know I made the right I already knew I 358 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: made the right choice. 359 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: But it's like I can feel less guilty about it. 360 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: I believe this person exists in the world. They do think, 361 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: so you're gonna find it. 362 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: So sidebar if you if you're like, hm, hm to 363 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: I know somebody? You know somebody you don't have to 364 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean, ideally Jersey, it would be awesome. But honestly, 365 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: if digitallys it's is awesome too. If you know somebody 366 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: who would be amazing as an executive admin, not someone 367 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: who was like in transition, I'll be your admin for 368 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: six months, well like move on to something else. No, 369 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: someone who really wants to be an executive admin, like 370 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: that's where they want to be. You know we we 371 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: have Honestly, it's an awesome team. 372 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: Do you have a job listing? 373 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: We did so I can, I can. I you know, 374 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: I can see if I can get it to you. 375 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: I'll get it from Karen, my COO, and we can 376 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: post it. 377 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, if you know someone, Honestly, at 378 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: this point, we could use a little a little boost. 379 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: It sounds like a great a great job for like 380 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: a really high type a go get her college grad. 381 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Yes, honestly, and it would be honestly, and we I 382 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: mean we were I give raises all the time, like 383 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: the team knows. As the company grows, we we we 384 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: give raises like it's not like, oh, we an annual raise. No, 385 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: they can come quarterly, if not faster than that, depending 386 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: on how fast we grow. We go on an annual 387 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: trip every year that we that my business partner I 388 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: we paid for completely. We actually leave in like a week. 389 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: We're taking the whole team to Arizona and we're going 390 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: ATV and we got a bunch of airbnbs. I mean 391 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: like it's it's just an awesome environment of mostly women 392 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: who are dope. And yeah, I just it's a great 393 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: place to work. Like I've really, I've really, honestly, I've 394 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: built the place where I would want to work. And 395 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: so we're just looking for someone who is super type 396 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: A because I'm not. I need someone who is super organized, 397 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: who is gonna be like, Tiffany, don't forget this, Tiffany, 398 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: I've already made that reservation. 399 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: Tiffany, don't forget you have Superman's birthday tonight. 400 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: You know, like someone who's gonna be really on me, 401 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, but also easy to work with. And yeah, 402 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: and if you want to learn, if you're like I've 403 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: always wonder to have a business or see what that 404 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: looks like. I mean, this is you get. You get 405 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: first hand seats on what it looks like. We're we 406 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: are a seventh figure of year business and by none, 407 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: but I think by November we are on the cusp of 408 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: our first seven figure month, let alone years. So we 409 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: are growing rapidly and you can be a part of 410 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: that growth or somebody you know, so hit a system 411 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: up if you can go to the budget lista dot 412 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: com and just click contact me if you're interested, because 413 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: we definitely. 414 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: Need someone. 415 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: Help Tiffany out. 416 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to let go somebody at twenty four 417 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: hours ever. 418 00:17:49,320 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: Again, shall we take some questions? 419 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it, all right? 420 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: I feel for this first listener, she wants to remain anonymous, 421 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: and you'll find out why. She has a question about 422 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: her friends and traveling. I wonder if we know where 423 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: this is going? Eh? All right, so she says, here's 424 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: my question. We'll call her Sarah. I love to travel 425 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: with my friends, but they often tend to plan trips 426 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: that go far outside my budget. My budget for trips 427 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: each year's three thousand dollars, which, along with miles, is 428 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: enough for two big trips a year and two to 429 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: four small domestic trips. Right now, my friends are planning 430 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: a trip that's totally nearly six thousand dollars, and they 431 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: aren't interested in any of my travel on a budget hacks. 432 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: They want to spend money on things that I just 433 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: don't value, like a luxury hotel. This has happened before 434 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: when I've tried to plan trips with them. I love 435 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: them and I want to travel with them. How can 436 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: I make that happen? What can I do to get 437 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: them to try my idea of budget travel? Thank you? 438 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: I really feel this is a really common I feel 439 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: like everyone in their life has has had the friends 440 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: who want to go, you know, go big for a 441 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: certain trip. You know, it's anyone who's ever been a bridesmaid, 442 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: you know, the bachelorette party comes along, and it's always 443 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: freaking awkward because ever, you know, some people want to 444 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: go to Vegas and some people are like not financially 445 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: set to go to Vegas, and yeah, it's really difficult. 446 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: So first and foremost you are not alone miss Sarah. 447 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. All my friends know I'm cheap, 448 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: so they're like, girl, I. 449 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: Mean, it's kind of like in your name. 450 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: No, well, I mean it definitely has because I would say, 451 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: like my best friend Dream is definitely more so the 452 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: fancy traveler than I am. So the truth is, you know, 453 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: I really don't go on that many trips together. I mean, 454 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: now I'm a little I'm a little bit more flexible. 455 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: But for a while we did it. It didn't mean 456 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: weren't friends. It didn't mean we didn't hang out. 457 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: We did. It doesn't didn't mean we didn't talk on 458 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: the phone. 459 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: It just meant when I traveled, I used, actually used 460 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: to travel every year with a friend friend of mine 461 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: named Madeline and Madeleine had a similar traveling profile. Like 462 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: Madeline was super low key, you know. 463 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: She was. It was all about the budget. 464 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: And so I remember three or four years in a row, 465 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: me and Madeline went on a trip every year, and honestly, 466 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Drena didn't feel any kind of way about it because 467 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: she knew she didn't want to travel in that way. 468 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: And then every once in a while the way something 469 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: would come up with the way I wanted to travel 470 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: was similar in the way that Drina wanted to travel 471 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: and we would do that. So it's okay not to 472 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: travel with your friends. It doesn't make them less of 473 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: your friends, like it was crazy because Madeleine actually lives 474 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: in Newark, where I live, and when I tell you, 475 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: I never see Madeline in Newark, but then once a 476 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: year we'd be like going to Paris. 477 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: This here, let's do it like you was my travel buddy. 478 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: And so I'm also part of this travel group on 479 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: a brown Girls kind of travel group on a Facebook 480 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: called No Madness No Madness, and it's great because you 481 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: can find other travel folks who want to travel like you. 482 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: And I've met so many amazing No Madness tribe members. 483 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: So that would be my suggestion that you don't. If 484 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: they want to travel, lucks, there's nothing wrong with that. 485 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: Let them travel LUs And if you don't, there's nothing 486 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: wrong with that. Find someone who fits your travel profile 487 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: and travel with them and then be friends with your friends. 488 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: But at home and in person. 489 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 3: No, I couldn't agree more. I mean, you you're letting them, 490 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 3: You're letting their habits make you feel bad for your 491 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: like I want you to stay on track. The fact 492 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: that you have a travel budget for the year and 493 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: you have it broken down by two big trips and 494 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: two domestic trips. First of all, doing that for three 495 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 3: thousand dollars, that's amazing. You should be really proud, and 496 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: they should be coming to you for travel tips. Why 497 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't you want to save even if you have the 498 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: money to go LUs? But you know, if you want 499 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: to keep the with them, I think you're better off 500 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: just bowing out of these group trips if they're not 501 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: going to work to, you know, fit your budget. And 502 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: I know I kind of get what you're saying, but 503 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: I also feel like they're kind of not being good 504 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: friends if they're not going to try and you know, 505 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: try and compromise a little bit so that you feel comfortable. 506 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want your friend to feel comfortable on 507 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: a trip? So I agree with Tiffany on that front. 508 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: I recently I wonder if you, I wonder how you 509 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: guys will feel about this, especially U tiff So I 510 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: recently I've been on this whole like pre baby bucket 511 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 3: list thing where I want to do see all the 512 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: Broadway shows and do my baby moon and all that 513 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: kind of stuff, And I invited two really good girlfriends 514 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: to see Mulan Rouge on Broadway, which I'm really excited about, 515 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: and they told me, here's our budget, and it turned 516 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: out tickets were above that price point. I personally kicked 517 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: in more money so that we can get better seats 518 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: because I am a Broadway snob and I only like 519 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: to sit where I like to sit, and where I 520 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: like to sit was just not in that price range. 521 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: But rather than make them feel bad, like I had 522 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: points on my card and I knew, I felt comfortable 523 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: just kicking in more money so we can all have 524 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: a better experience. And I just did that so that 525 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: I can be happy they don't feel bad about it. 526 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 3: I use my points. I don't care. And that's how 527 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: when I've been on the other side doesn't happen all 528 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: the time where I'm the kind of the one who 529 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: wants to spend more. I'm like, okay, fine, I'll kick 530 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: in more because I want you guys to come along 531 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: with me, and you know you're the people I want 532 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: to see this show with. Yeah, have you done that before? 533 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: Do you think that that was the right thing to do? 534 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: No? 535 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I've actually had friends do that for me. 536 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: When I'm like, like, I have my other fancy friend. 537 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: His name is and that's how he is. And so 538 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: we would I would say, at least once a month 539 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: we would go out to dinner, and so Cabral would 540 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: be like, oh, let's go here, and I'm like, Cabra 541 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: the prize. 542 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: He's like, I got it, and I'd be like wait. 543 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: But so what it did, though, was that it showed 544 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: me that there were some things we're spending a little 545 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: extra money on. 546 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. 547 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: So Cabral has taught me that I'm still the budget nista, 548 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: but I'm the budgetnista that will sometimes splurge on luxurious 549 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: things for the experience of it. So there's value in both, so, 550 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, and as a result, I have been splurged 551 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: on other people because of that lesson. 552 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: I learned from Cabral that sometimes it's okay to, like, 553 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: you know, pay. 554 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: A little extra because Cabral is always, always, always willing 555 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: to pay a little extra for the experience. 556 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 3: And honestly, and it's about the experience. And it's also 557 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 3: like when you're the friend who maybe who wants to 558 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: invest more in an experience and you're like, you want 559 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: to share the experience with someone. It's not fun to 560 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: be the one who wants to spend money on a 561 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: luxury trip and then you go by yourself, like you 562 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: want to bring people along with you. So I think, anyway, 563 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: that's not really where this listener, Sarah is at on 564 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 3: the side of the equation. But honestly, if you have 565 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: told them respectfully and upfront about your financial issues and 566 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: they're not willing to bend, you're either going to have 567 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 3: to sacrifice your own finances and your travel plan for 568 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: the year to to, you know, to match what they 569 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 3: want to do, or you're going to have to just 570 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 3: bow it out, bow out of this trip, and you 571 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 3: have to ask yourself what's more important to you, you know, 572 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 3: keeping your own financial plan on track. I hope, so 573 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 3: we're going on this luxury trip, or maybe you decide 574 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 3: this trip sounds so phenomenal, you're going to take the plunge, 575 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: go on the expensive trip, and then maybe scale back 576 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: your travel plans for the next couple of years as 577 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: a result. If that doesn't sound like a fair trade off, 578 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: then I think you know what you got to do. 579 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: It's just not always the most fun decision to make, 580 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: do you. 581 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: Want to take one more questions? Do you think we 582 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: have some time? 583 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: Definitely? Let's take a question. Let's see does she want 584 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: to be anonymous? Now? Listener, this is on from Instagram. 585 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't even mention to you guys. If you forgot, 586 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 3: we're on Instagram. At Brandonbis podcast. You can send us 587 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: a DM there to ask your question, or hit us 588 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: up via email by going to brandnambisionpodcast dot com and 589 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: clicking ask us anything. So this question is from listener 590 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: Vanessa being mistreated by her account. She says, I have 591 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: two bank accounts. One has a direct deposit and the 592 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: other account I use for online bill payment. This bank 593 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: charges a ten dollars monthly maintenance fee, and the bank 594 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 3: says I can avoid the fee if I make a 595 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 3: minimum of ten transactions per month. The ten transactions can 596 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 3: be point of sale or online bill pay. What's the 597 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: best way to make What's the best way for me 598 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: to make twenty qualifying transactions that won't cause me to overspend? 599 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 3: Because she has two accounts and she has to make 600 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: ten transactions on each of them to avoid this ten 601 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 3: dollars per month fee, she continues, I tend to use 602 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 3: cash for a lot of my purchases so that I 603 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: don't get carried away with swiping my card and overspend. 604 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: I need your help, Vanessa. Oooh girl. 605 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: So she's got two different banks or two different bank account. 606 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 3: The same bank, two different accounts with which both will 607 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: charge her ten dollars a month if she's not swiping 608 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: her card basically. 609 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: Ten twenty dollars. 610 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: Yes, we just tell her to get out of that bank, right, 611 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: just leave your hat. There's better banks, Vanessa. 612 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: Move from the gets out upgrade. Yes, no, yeah, honestly, yeah, 613 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: that bank is wild, like which I mean, are they really? 614 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: Because most of these banks are like the worst to 615 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: be all the way candid. But I think a quick 616 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: Google search can show can find because usually sometimes a 617 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: bank will just say if you have a deposit right, 618 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: like I know, sometimes you. 619 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: Can avoid that get if you get your your paycheck 620 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: direct deposit into that account. 621 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: Probably some of them have like you have to be 622 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: a minimum amount, you know, if you have direct deposit 623 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: up to a certain amount. She have to look at 624 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 3: her bank's fine print, because she does say she's using 625 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: one of them to deposit her paycheck through and the 626 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: other one for online bill pay. But she uses cash 627 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: so much because she wants to avoid overspending. So you 628 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: need to find an account that fits your profile. You 629 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: need to find a bank that doesn't charge a monthly 630 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: maintenance fees for keeping a low balance, that won't charge 631 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 3: you ATM fees when you withdraw money, because it seems 632 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: like you use cash a lot, and there's a lot 633 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,239 Speaker 3: of options out there. I mean I use Ally and 634 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: the other day I just love going to a badiga 635 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: ATM now because I'm like, yes, I will, you know, 636 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: pay that three dollar fee because Ally is going to 637 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: pick that up for me. 638 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I'm literally doing it. 639 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: I did a Google search best free checking accounts and 640 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: Allies definitely one of them. There's my Radius chime simple 641 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: these are still checking accounts. 642 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. Those are a couple of new ones Via or 643 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: is it vo I think it's v O v I 644 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: a v io. They are a new bank, a newer 645 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: bank that's like really kicking the competitions, but with no 646 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: fees and high high rates on savings. I'm going to say, 647 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: you know again, I will post a link to a 648 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: couple of places you can look for alternative bank accounts. 649 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: Even I bet your local credit Union has a better 650 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: deal than the bank that you're with. Now there's better options, 651 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: I would say, get out of there now, versus trying 652 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: to figure out how to like change your spending habits 653 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: to fit their needs so they don't charge you money. 654 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, because it is just encouraging you to spend one. 655 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: I mean that's the whole point. They want you to 656 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: do that. You're like, we're not trying to do that. 657 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: Nope, all right, thank you for your question. Again. We're 658 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: on Instagram at Brandonbission podcast or hit us up at 659 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: brandnibisionpodcast dot com. Ask us anything. 660 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: Yes, Now it's time to boost a break for all 661 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: our family. 662 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: Will you boost? Will you break? What will you do? Man? 663 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: I feel like that was a good one. 664 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: That was It was on tune I think and everything. 665 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: It was good. 666 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm yes, I'm. 667 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: Gonna do boost. I might do to a quick too 668 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: for quick too. For so one, I want to shout 669 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: out to my workplace bestie. Who do you have a 670 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: workplace bestie? You probably dream is your bestie and you 671 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: work together. Maybe it's not a traditional workplace bestie, but 672 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: I recently came across this h the study by Gallup. 673 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: Maybe it was a survey, but their research show people 674 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: who have workplace best heeds. So having a best friend 675 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: at work actually helps you do better over your whole 676 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: your whole career. It's about having support, someone to bounce 677 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: ideas off of, and feeling like you're more secure in 678 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: a professional setting. I wholeheartedly agree agree, Like I my 679 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: best my workplace, one of my first one of my 680 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: best friends I met at my first job in New 681 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: York City and she has been like she was my 682 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: lifeline for that job for so long. So just shout outs. 683 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: If you have a workplace best you give them a 684 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: shoot him a text, tell them how much you appreciate them, 685 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: how much you love them, et cetera. And my second 686 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: boost is gonna be I listened. So last week Tiffany 687 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: asked me, you know, when someone asked you that question, 688 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 3: they follow up with you on something that you know 689 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 3: you should do, but you get a little defensive about 690 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: it and you because you know you haven't done it yet. 691 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: And last week you asked me if I contacted my 692 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: financial planner to tell her about you know, what's happening 693 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: in my life. And you know, I'm only thirty weeks 694 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: into this pregnancy, and my financial planner has no idea. 695 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: So I emailed Helen last week and let her know 696 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 3: what was happening, and we have a call scheduled for 697 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: next week to talk to me. I don't know why 698 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: I was putting it off. I think I've just felt like, well, 699 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: the money part, I got that down, like like as 700 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: far as like a five two nine plan, I know 701 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: what that stuff is. I'll figure it out. But the 702 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: more I got to thinking about it then where I'm like, 703 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: maybe we should get our life insurance looked at. We 704 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: need to. It'll just feel good to get the financial 705 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: stamp of approval from Helen, you know, going into it. 706 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,239 Speaker 1: So there's like, like you said, sometimes like lately, I've 707 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: been leaning into something that I call financial wholeness, which 708 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: is like it's not just I've got money in the bank, 709 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: you know. It's like you said, like I found, like 710 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: through my own financial planner, like I'm severely underinsured. I'm 711 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: like I need a succession plan that something happened to me, 712 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: what happens to the businesses. 713 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: So it's like I feel like, yes. 714 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: I know I've got money saved, but that's not enough 715 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: for me to have like a holistic view of like 716 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: what I need to do with my money, like I 717 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: want you know, So that's what I like about, you know, 718 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: having someone else, an expert, kind of come in and 719 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: help me look at all aspects of my finances. 720 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm proud of you. 721 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to get that life insurance right, going 722 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: to get my will set and just thinking about the will, 723 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: I was like, wait, who is gonna who would get 724 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: the child? And then of course I'm hormonal, so I 725 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: start crying thinking about us dying. It's really sad. 726 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: Well, yes that is. 727 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: Any other pregnant women listen, because I've confirmed us with 728 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: two friends of mine. They confirm it's. You have really 729 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: dark and twisty thoughts when you're in your third trimester, 730 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: Like I imagine our deaths in several different ways, like all 731 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: the time. It's it's very sad. The hormones, man, the horrmone. 732 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, hormones are something else. I tell you. 733 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: They're the devil is what they are. Okay, you go 734 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: booster to break. 735 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to boost, but first I'm going to send 736 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: a little shout out to Dream, my bestie. Well she's 737 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: actually in Mexico right now, getting married. I couldn't go 738 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: because Zica is real and my IVF doctor was like, Sis, 739 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: so we've come this far, we're about to do another 740 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: cycle and I need you not to get Zica. So 741 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: it was sad, but you know, I just I couldn't 742 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: take the risk. So it's like I'm looking at all 743 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: the pictures and stuff, but I want to. 744 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: Shout her out and say her and her. 745 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: She's been with her her boo KB since they were 746 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: like fourteen fifteen, and they're such a cute couple. They've 747 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: got adult baby who's not a baby, he's four. But yeah, 748 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: so they're awesome and just happy wedding. It looks amazing. 749 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: My sisters are there, and then I want to just 750 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: get a boost to Today is my business partner, Jabrill's birthday. 751 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: And there are some people in your life that are pivotal, 752 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: like they came into your life and your life is 753 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: not the same, whether in a terrible way or an 754 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: amazing way. 755 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: And honestly, I have to. 756 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: Say that Jabril is a pivotal He when I look 757 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: back as to when my life took a turn, he 758 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: is one of the people. It's like Jirell, my husband, 759 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, like my you know, I don't know, like 760 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: my college best. 761 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: Friend, you know what I mean. 762 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: But Jabrill, my business partner, is definitely one of those people. 763 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: Not that I wouldn't have been successful on my own, 764 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: but the truth of that there. 765 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: Is I didn't think I didn't think I deserved to 766 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: be or that. 767 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, man just have this weird sense of overconfidence. 768 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: Well they're just like, well, but it is amandy. 769 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: When I tell you, like Jabri ive, when I first 770 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: met to Grill, I mean I was barely scraping by 771 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, we're gonna make a few 772 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: million dollars. And I was like, okay, crazy person, I 773 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: don't know what are you talking about. And now that's 774 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: what the company does. And I remember him saying, yeah, 775 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: wait till we get to a million dollars a month, 776 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, that doesn't these crazy words, and like November, 777 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: we are on track to make that in November. 778 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 2: And it's just. 779 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: It's both definitely annoying that he's right, but also it's 780 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: really he has really taught me to look beyond myself 781 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: and my own perceived limitations, and so that's what I 782 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: really like. Men in general just tend to think like 783 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: that it seems like and so Jabrill always has like 784 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: and so the other day because he's already glossed over 785 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: a million dollars a month and he's like, yeah, I 786 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: can't wait till we get to our million dollar day. 787 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: And I'm like, what sor what are you talking about? 788 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: But now I'm deep enough in it that I know 789 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: that that is more than just a possibility, we can 790 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: do it. And so I'm just really grateful, not because 791 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: of the money, but because Jabrill has helped me to 792 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: unlock like the superpower in me that says that it's possible, 793 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: it's more than possible, it's probable, and I put in 794 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: the work and it's you know, we're capable of doing 795 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: these things. And so I'm just grateful for him coming 796 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: into my life because, like I said, I feel like, 797 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: if not, I would be Tiffany that still works equally 798 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: as hard but doesn't get as far ahead because I 799 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: just couldn't see it not for me anyway. 800 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 2: You know. So happy birthday, Jabrill. You're the dopest. 801 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: If you want to, you know, feel bad about your life, 802 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: go ahead and follow him on Instagram. He's Jabril eight. 803 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: It's a eighty eight I think Jibril eight he traveled. 804 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: He doesn't even live anywhere. Jabril like lives the world. 805 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: He's really one of those people you know, like the 806 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: fake people you see online and you're like, yeah, right, 807 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: you travel to all these different countries and don't really 808 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: live anywhere, and like have this amazing life. 809 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: Now that's Debrell in real life. It's so Jabril eight 810 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: like that. Literally, I could be talking to Jabrill. He's like, 811 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: I've in China and then the next week we have 812 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: our team meeting. I'm like, is that a giraffe? 813 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been Zimbabwe And you're like, what, Like, we 814 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: all aspire to be Jabrill when we grow up, and 815 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: he's so easy going and chill, but he's a beast 816 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: in business. So happy birthday to you, my brother from 817 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: another mother. I am grateful for you and I love 818 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: you like direct deposit. 819 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 3: No I should we all. I wish we all had 820 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: a Jabrill in our lives. And it may not be 821 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 3: a guy, but I'm telling you, my little brother, I 822 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: hope he doesn't listen to this podcast. He is so 823 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 3: obnoxious sometimes because all you know, for example, I got 824 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: I got a job offer and he was and I 825 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 3: told him what it was, and I thought I was, 826 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 3: you know, being the big sister, like very impressive. He's like, 827 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 3: you're gonna ask for equity or no? And I was 828 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 3: like I was not. I was not gonna ask for equity. 829 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: But now you know, it's crazy. 830 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: I remember the first time he did that. We work 831 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: with the company. He was like, so we really like equity. 832 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at him like bruh, like your wile 833 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: and and they were like you know what. 834 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: Okay, And he looked at me like Tiffany, now I 835 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 2: deserve it. And I just, ah, can you imagine to 836 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: be a mad I just. 837 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 3: I hate it. But you need you need people with 838 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 3: forget if it's a man or you need a man 839 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: or a woman. Need some balls in your life to 840 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: like push you in business for real. You need a 841 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 3: hype man, you need a hype woman whoever it is, 842 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: to think bigger than you. 843 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 2: I exactly. 844 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: And there are definitely are women out there who definitely 845 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: carry that with them, but I just for me, it 846 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: just was difficult to see past that. So yeah, like 847 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 1: I you know, if you're a woman who rocks out 848 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: like that, I'm like, oh my god, Like what you 849 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: know how. 850 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 2: Did you get untrained? 851 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: Because I feel like girls are taught to be a 852 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: poe and quiet and small and not to go for 853 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: it because that's that's unlady like and not feminine, you know. 854 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 3: And it's to get equal pay, like we can't even 855 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 3: we can't even dream of getting like the dollar to 856 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: the dollar for the you know, for what a man earns. 857 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: And now it's like so thinking beyond that. You're right, 858 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 3: We're just we have to we need people who think 859 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 3: differently to rewire the way that we perceive ourselves. Beautiful, 860 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 3: happy birthday, brill. 861 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's our sizzo. 862 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: And honestly, I'm not playing. 863 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: If you think you could be an awesome executive admin 864 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: full time, or if you know somebody who'd be awesome. 865 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: The budget lista dot com, click the contact me button 866 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: and I'll send you, like you know, what we're like, 867 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: the list of kind of things that we have a 868 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: listing somewhere, and I'll send you what we're looking for. 869 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: And yeah, you guys are awesome, as per usual. It's 870 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: been awesome chatting with you, Mandra as per usual. I 871 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: don't know. 872 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: I love this show. It just gets better and better. 873 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: I love when y'all stopping on the street and you 874 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: not even like budgeties anymore. 875 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 2: They're like bredhibition. 876 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, you know, I get recognized too sometimes, 877 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: but please try? Could you please not catch me at 878 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: like six o'clock when I'm sweaty trying to catch the 879 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 3: train though, that's when it always happens. I'm like, yeah, yes, 880 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 3: it is me. 881 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: And then they forced a hug on me. They're like, 882 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: heard you hate hugs. 883 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 3: Here you go, girl, Okay, I feel bad for encouraging 884 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 3: that behavior. 885 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: No, no, honestly, I don't mind. 886 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: It has made me like a more of a huggy person. 887 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: And they're like and one for Nandy. I'm like, she's 888 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: not getting this.