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Speaker 2: I already have the odds to win the Stanley Cup
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 3: DraftKings just sent those to me.
Speaker 2: Your edmondton Euler's are the favorites to win it next
Speaker 2: year after not winning it the last two years, followed
Speaker 2: by the Panthers. The Stars and the Hurricanes are tied,
Speaker 2: and then the Avalanche as well.
Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, we all are looking each other saying, why
Speaker 4: not the Panthers.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what moves that the Panthers have to
Speaker 2: make in the off season to keep him everybody in place.
Speaker 3: I'm going to guess that's probably yes, Tom.
Speaker 5: Or is it as simple as what's the likely of
Speaker 5: them winning three in a row? It's got to be
Speaker 5: the second best team with a runner up will finally
Speaker 5: win next year.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm just giving you the odds right now.
Speaker 2: According to DraftKings, I also have the points spread for
Speaker 2: tomorrow Game six thunder favored by six and a half SGA.
Speaker 3: The over under is thirty three and a half.
Speaker 2: Tyrese Halliburton with the tender calf muscle over unders thirteen
Speaker 2: and a half for him eight seven, seven to three
Speaker 2: DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter at DP.
Speaker 6: Show pull question for the final hour of the program.
Speaker 6: Seat we got up there right now? Should Tyrese Haliburton
Speaker 6: play in Game six?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 2: Or no?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 9: Yeah right now?
Speaker 6: Seventy seven percent of that the audience have that there
Speaker 6: is some thought to rest your calf for a Game seven,
Speaker 6: if you could get there.
Speaker 2: I would arrested him in game five to be healthy
Speaker 2: for Game six. You can't have Game seven unless you
Speaker 2: get Game six. I got to make sure he's as
Speaker 2: healthy as possible. And this is the kind of injury
Speaker 2: from what I'm told, you would normally sit out. If
Speaker 2: this happened during the regular season, somebody would sit out.
Speaker 3: A game or two. Well, it's the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2: But I also I want him out there because he
Speaker 2: wants to be out there, and when he's healthy, he's
Speaker 2: great for us. But I don't want him out there
Speaker 2: where he's hurt or and or hurting us. And this
Speaker 2: is where Rick Carlisle I think made a tactical error.
Speaker 2: Don't have him out there. He might want to go
Speaker 2: out there. I mean, not everybody is Willis Reid in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy during Will Chamberlain dragging yourself out there and
Speaker 2: you hit a couple of buckets. I mean it helped
Speaker 2: that Weld Fraser had thirty six points in nineteen assists
Speaker 2: or nobody cares about Willis Reid came out and scored
Speaker 2: two baskets. It's what did you do when you were
Speaker 2: out there? Are you helping your tea? And I don't
Speaker 2: think Tyrese Haliburton helped his team because TJ McConnell was
Speaker 2: playing so well. I would have stayed with that hot
Speaker 2: hand and the bench was playing really well and you
Speaker 2: could have won that game. But I can't have Tyre
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna know early with Tyrese Haliburton, I
Speaker 2: would think and if I'm okac, I'm gonna work him.
Speaker 2: I don't know who he's going to guard, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make sure that we work him at both ends
Speaker 2: of the floor.
Speaker 9: Yes, Martin screen rolls all day long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Paul, to be contrarian here. What if Rick
Speaker 4: Carlo thought to himself, this might be the ultimate move,
Speaker 4: or desperation move. You rest Halliburton for the Thursday night game.
Speaker 4: You let your second unit full speed ahead if you
Speaker 4: steal that game. Now you have a guy on five
Speaker 4: days rest coming back to help you in a game seven,
Speaker 4: and the pressure changes.
Speaker 2: Now the media is going to be all over him
Speaker 2: to say you have to win game six to get
Speaker 2: to game seven. You took a chance on not winning
Speaker 2: a game, and therefore there is no game seven. I
Speaker 2: understand what you're saying, but I think I would have
Speaker 2: had Tyreez Halibert and not played the second half in
Speaker 2: the previous game to be as healthy as possible for
Speaker 2: this game, and because once again, if you don't win tonight,
Speaker 2: nobody cares about game seven. Scott in Florida, Hi Scott,
Speaker 2: thanks for holding what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7: Good morning, Dan, First time Midtime five nine one seventy.
Speaker 7: I'm going to take on the Panthers on the seat
Speaker 7: talk and then I have a family advice question for
Speaker 7: you too, if you'll indulge me. Got to give the
Speaker 7: Panthers their credit. You know, in the finals the last
Speaker 7: three years in a row, two back to back titles,
Speaker 7: so they're dynastic.
Speaker 10: Love that word.
Speaker 1: Got it with you, guys.
Speaker 7: But to that note, you have to give the Lightning
Speaker 7: their credit too, and you did. Dan. You've been good
Speaker 7: about pointing out their greatness in Florida as well. But
Speaker 7: Tampa Bay still ow and hockey in Florida with three
Speaker 7: Cups just outside the last two decades. Now, the Panthers
Speaker 7: are trying well to be there soon.
Speaker 3: But just saying Jaffa Bay all right, well, thank you Scott.
Speaker 2: By the way, the thing that you know, you talk
Speaker 2: to teams and you'll watch for trends. Who gets out
Speaker 2: early in hockey, who gets out early, who gets out
Speaker 2: early in baseball? Basketball doesn't matter because it you know
Speaker 2: that such an ebb and flow, you know, the points
Speaker 2: spread swings. The Panthers scored thirteen first period goals in
Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup final. They scored two or more goals
Speaker 2: in the first period in every single game. You can't
Speaker 2: come back from that, like you're constantly thinking about, we
Speaker 2: got to score gotta score, gotta score, and Florida jumps
Speaker 2: on top. And then all of a sudden, you know
Speaker 2: you're you're playing from behind, and it changes your game plan.
Speaker 2: How long you keep somebody on the ice? What is
Speaker 2: the game plan when they're on the ice, off the ice?
Speaker 2: All to those different things, Florida was just an unbelievably
Speaker 2: dominant team. And I still like what Steve Levy said
Speaker 2: in the first hour. It was his six game sweep. Yes,
Speaker 2: you had the first two games, three games that were interesting,
Speaker 2: but man, these last three Florida was a great team.
Speaker 3: Uh. AJ in Cincinnati, Hi AJ, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11: I've seen therapy one six forty pm. I'm just calling
Speaker 11: and says I want to take you a monster fallow
Speaker 11: the daylight and I worse my wife at.
Speaker 2: This sounds not very good, AJ, So maybe try it
Speaker 2: again where you're not on a speakerphone.
Speaker 3: Jay in Michigan, Hi J, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12: Hey DP, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: Great? J?
Speaker 13: Good?
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 11: Dynasty talk goes?
Speaker 12: What about the Russian five for the Detroit Red Wings
Speaker 12: with you know, Seeve Weiserman the captain of my life?
Speaker 12: Good type of deal.
Speaker 13: And then.
Speaker 3: Michigan just dominating Ryan Day. That's okay, okay, Ohio State
Speaker 3: dominated Michigan for a long time. To bring it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Red Wings, Yeah, I mean there's a lot
Speaker 3: of dynasties. It's not that we're purposely missing them. We're
Speaker 3: just talking about some teams and are they a dynasty?
Speaker 3: Red Wings were a dynasty, but we were talking about
Speaker 3: San Francisco Giants. They would win a title, not make
Speaker 3: the playoffs, win a title, not make the playoffs, win
Speaker 3: a title. Is that a dynasty? Did the Patriots have
Speaker 3: two different bookend dynasties there?
Speaker 9: Yes, marm If the Chiefs don't win any more Super Bowls,
Speaker 9: would they be considered a dynasty.
Speaker 3: It feels that way.
Speaker 9: The Chiefs are one hundred percent one hundred percent of dynasty,
Speaker 9: so when a super Bowl you had to go through them.
Speaker 2: Also true, and they got two super super Bowls, right,
Speaker 2: three super Bowls?
Speaker 3: That's it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, barely a dynasty, but definitely yeah. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: I mean we were handing it out like you know,
Speaker 2: Halloween candy. Now you get a dynasty, and you get
Speaker 2: a dynasty, and you get a dynasty, all right, I'm fun.
Speaker 3: The bad boy Pistons dynasty. No, okay, just just throwing
Speaker 3: that out there. You know they would argue otherwise, Yes.
Speaker 4: Paul, Yeah, the Chiefs losing two Super Bowls in the
Speaker 4: past five six years actually helps them be a dynasty.
Speaker 4: It's like they're always in it. They won three loss too,
Speaker 4: but that's that's pure dynasty. That actually helps.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the Bills lost four in a row and
Speaker 2: nobody says that was a dynasty.
Speaker 4: No, no, not the losing. You have to have the
Speaker 4: winning first.
Speaker 3: But they did get there four consecutive years.
Speaker 4: The rynasty but three, three and two in six years.
Speaker 3: THEO in Syracuse, Hi, theo.
Speaker 11: DP so much under five to eleven, No soul in
Speaker 11: valor two twenty twists that steal, thank you, sir, you
Speaker 11: sole much thunder. Let's talk about miss dynasties, the Bills
Speaker 11: being the epic example.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we've discussed.
Speaker 2: But I look at that and in the old days
Speaker 2: before the Super Bowl, if the Buffalo Bills won four
Speaker 2: consecutive AFL titles, they would have been a dynasty. Before
Speaker 2: you had the AFL NFL playing the Super Bowl, you
Speaker 2: had teams that won AFL championships or NFL championships, Cleveland
Speaker 2: Browns won NFL championships, and you might look at them
Speaker 2: as a dynasty. They weren't playing against the AFL back then.
Speaker 2: Dan and Milwaukee, Hi, Dan, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12: Second time caller loved the show. Got a quick question
Speaker 12: Pat Casey and the Oregon State Beavers. Would you consider
Speaker 12: them a dynasty or would you consider Pat Casey the dynasty?
Speaker 2: Well, I did watch yesterday as Oregon State lost to Louisville.
Speaker 12: Yes, I know I was sad, but I was just
Speaker 12: looking like two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 12: twenty eighteen. I think they took him to the the region.
Speaker 12: What's the most through that span.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I didn't do a deep dive on it,
Speaker 2: but I did watch the game. Bases loaded, ninth inning,
Speaker 2: no outs, Oregon State is going to win, reliever comes in,
Speaker 2: strike out, strikeout, and then a little pop out, and
Speaker 2: I go, you just lost. And then Louisville ended up
Speaker 2: getting a couple of base runners on maybe loaded the
Speaker 2: bases as well, and then you got a sacrifice fly
Speaker 2: and ended up winning. You know, the Women's College World
Speaker 2: Series was awesome. Men's College World Series awesome. Scott in Arizona. Hi, Scott,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11: Good morning Dan.
Speaker 14: The other day, when Brian Wilson passed away, I got
Speaker 14: to thinking who would be on my Mount Rushmore of
Speaker 14: rock and roll?
Speaker 8: I came up with well.
Speaker 14: Brian Wilson, of course, Bob Dylan and John Lennon. But
Speaker 14: I couldn't come up with a fource. Do you guys
Speaker 14: have any ideas who else would be up there with those?
Speaker 2: With those three guys, Oh, I'd need time to think
Speaker 2: about that, but thank you, Scott. Way too many people
Speaker 2: to put up there, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 9: Because is he talking about songwriters artists just in general?
Speaker 2: Well, those are all songwriters if you think about it, Dylan, Lennon,
Speaker 2: Brian Wilson. But yeah, there are way too many people
Speaker 2: you could put in there, Yes, Mark.
Speaker 9: Is McCartney, Lennon like magic Bird?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's a two people for one slot.
Speaker 6: Yes, Yes, it's tough to not put Chuck Berry in
Speaker 6: that the spot. I mean he's the godfather of rock
Speaker 6: and roll. Sure that's the blueprint, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're always.
Speaker 2: Going to offend somebody if you go, Okay, there's my
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmoreton.
Speaker 3: What about you know, well, where do you think Chuck
Speaker 3: Berry got it, he got.
Speaker 9: Is.
Speaker 2: Mozart was Mozart rock and roll before we even knew
Speaker 2: what rock and roll was.
Speaker 3: Really, here's kind of emo. Yeah, it's a little sensitive,
Speaker 3: but he wasn't a singer songwriter.
Speaker 2: He just played piano and sweepy bangs and like stun't
Speaker 2: know me.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: He died early. That's rock and roll, that is super.
Speaker 3: But he didn't die at twenty seven. Now, I think
Speaker 3: I was going to say if he.
Speaker 2: Had started the trend of rock and rollers who died
Speaker 2: at twenty seven, because there's so many that died at
Speaker 2: twenty seven.
Speaker 3: You imagine if Mozart was the first to do that.
Speaker 4: Tearing up Victorian Tellroom.
Speaker 3: No, he did, he was. He was kind of wild. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was a rock and roll star. Like back then
Speaker 3: it was a big deal. Plus you were playing in
Speaker 3: front of kings and queens, and if they didn't like
Speaker 3: how you played, you know, you probably see the Guillean
Speaker 3: team beheading.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think seven someone loses their head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there will be no encore. There will be no encore.
Speaker 2: Mike and Georgia, Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: Hey Dan?
Speaker 3: Hey Mike.
Speaker 8: I was we're talking dynasties.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the Braves fifteen pennance in a row,
Speaker 1: but they only made the world They.
Speaker 12: Only won the World Series the one time.
Speaker 2: It's tricky with the Braves because we keep thinking, all right,
Speaker 2: you had three Hall of Fame pitchers and you won
Speaker 2: one World Series. They should they're in these should have
Speaker 2: been a dynasty.
Speaker 3: Uh. I'm gonna give you a.
Speaker 2: Credit that you're always there, but you're not all the
Speaker 2: way there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Marden, would you consider a great run but out
Speaker 9: of dynasty?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it was a great era like the Bills.
Speaker 9: Yeah, great run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you only won one World Series, which still
Speaker 2: seems mind boggling that you would have that talent and
Speaker 2: they could only win one. Let me see Joseph in Arkansas. Hi, Joe,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12: Hey?
Speaker 8: Dan Patrick?
Speaker 10: Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 15: I can, Hey buddy, Hey, shout out to all you guys.
Speaker 15: I just wanted a quick second. You were going on
Speaker 15: about how the stations play the hits, and I really
Speaker 15: just wanted to shout you out on the fact of
Speaker 15: the Monday after the French Open conclusion, how that was
Speaker 15: the first thing you talked about. I've only been in
Speaker 15: the sport for probably three or four years now, so
Speaker 15: that was super cool for someone like you to address it,
Speaker 15: announce it. Actually know what you're talking about. But on
Speaker 15: the flip side, the whole fritzy thing with Gage would
Speaker 15: he didn't swing the bat and and you came at
Speaker 15: him like, hey, you got to play the game. You know,
Speaker 15: that's the whole ordeal. Like he went up there with
Speaker 15: the bat and he didn't swing, So to me, that's
Speaker 15: not playing the game.
Speaker 10: It was bush league.
Speaker 15: He ruined the perfect game.
Speaker 3: Like I said, thank you guys, all right, thank you Joseph.
Speaker 2: There was a compliment in there. You get on base,
Speaker 2: that's all. Get on base. I don't care how it's
Speaker 2: only three to nothing elimination game. You lean into a
Speaker 2: pitch or they'll allow you to lean into pitch or
Speaker 2: not get.
Speaker 3: Out of the way.
Speaker 2: Get on base, Get on this when you take a walk,
Speaker 2: not necessarily swinging the bat either.
Speaker 3: We don't have a problem with that. Is it bush league? Probably?
Speaker 3: But I don't. I'm at that point. I don't. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to win. I'm not here.
Speaker 2: I don't get style points if they go yeah, you
Speaker 2: know you guys did win, but you know he didn't
Speaker 2: try to get out of the way.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Whatever it takes, and I don't think it was one
Speaker 2: of those where it's coming right at me. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna stay here stationary. You know it was a breaking ball.
Speaker 2: But whatever it takes to get on this, I will
Speaker 2: not be no hit. I will not let you get
Speaker 2: a perfect game. I don't care. You can criticize me
Speaker 2: all you want. I will not let you have that
Speaker 2: moment at my expense. I right will take a break.
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Speaker 1: listen live. More phone calls coming up. Paully has a
Speaker 1: good idea bad idea? Can you have individual dynasties? I
Speaker 1: brought this up earlier when Lebron went to what eight
Speaker 1: consecutive NBA finals? Is he because he's the common denominator?
Speaker 1: Is he a dynasty? Michael Phelps? Is he a dynasty?
Speaker 2: I'd say yes, Usain Bolt Dynasty, Tiger Woods Dynasty, Jack
Speaker 2: Nicholas Dynasty, tennis players dynasties like individual or at least
Speaker 2: it's dynastic, but you know, it's fun to talk about
Speaker 2: also to remember what people did, how long they did
Speaker 2: it for teams, how long they did it for consistency.
Speaker 2: What do you do in the years when you don't
Speaker 2: make the playoffs? You know that's the knock on Jordan,
Speaker 2: if there is really a knock, Well, what did you
Speaker 2: do in those other six years or aside from those
Speaker 2: six years, the other years when you didn't win a championship?
Speaker 2: And Mike's not playing for a championship, he never lost one,
Speaker 2: so it was they were winning a title or they weren't.
Speaker 2: Whereas lebron was getting to a championship and he wasn't
Speaker 2: winning as often as Michael was, but he got there
Speaker 2: far more often. And I think getting there those teams,
Speaker 2: those players deserve far more credit than they get because
Speaker 2: it used to be with the Super Bowl, we'd be like, man,
Speaker 2: the Broncos are bums.
Speaker 3: They got blown out or the Bills lost again.
Speaker 2: You got that far, but then what happened on the
Speaker 2: Grand Is stage really affected how people remembered you. And
Speaker 2: I think we've done a disservice to the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 2: and the Minnesota Vikings. And it affects guys with their
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame careers because we use the titles as
Speaker 2: sort of the here is what puts somebody over the top,
Speaker 2: or you didn't win a title, this doesn't put you
Speaker 2: over the top.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pauline, Okay, here's a question for the room. Would
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan's career be considered more impressive or less impressive
Speaker 4: if you were six and three in the finals instead
Speaker 4: of six and zero in the finals? Less impressive even
Speaker 4: though he made it, got his team there three extra times.
Speaker 2: I would count it. But you know, people don't see
Speaker 2: it the way I see it. What Lebron did is
Speaker 2: incredible to get to the NBA finals. Mike got there,
Speaker 2: and Mike One didn't even get to a seventh game.
Speaker 2: You know, for a long time, Joe Montana was the
Speaker 2: best quarterback because he went to four Super Bowls and
Speaker 2: never lost, never threw an interception. Well, what Brady did?
Speaker 2: You're getting to the Super Bowl, You're you're winning, but
Speaker 2: you're also getting there. And I think that consistency of
Speaker 2: you're at least in the conversation of winning a championship
Speaker 2: that year and I think that we devalue that for
Speaker 2: some reason that you lost.
Speaker 3: Therefore, how can we give you credit?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 3: Time, like if Brady.
Speaker 5: Went three and seven to that point or two and eight,
Speaker 5: is Montana better than Brady?
Speaker 16: Like what that?
Speaker 3: Yes, he would be, he would be viewed as better.
Speaker 16: Even though ten super Bowls to four. I'm just I know,
Speaker 16: it's insane.
Speaker 2: This is this is how we reckon. This is what
Speaker 2: Lebron was saying. Here's Lebron on his podcast with Steve
Speaker 2: Nash talking about our obsession with championships.
Speaker 17: I don't know why I was discussed so much in
Speaker 17: our sport and why is the all be all of everything?
Speaker 17: You sit here and tell me Alan Iverson and Charles
Speaker 17: Barkley and Steve Nash, you know, you know, wasn't unbelievable, Like, oh,
Speaker 17: they can't be talked about or discussed with these guys.
Speaker 9: Is because this guy.
Speaker 17: Won one ring or won two rings or one like
Speaker 17: It's just it's just weird to me. It's like Sam
Speaker 17: Peyton Manning can't be in the same room with Brady
Speaker 17: or telling me that Dan Marino is not the greatest
Speaker 17: slinger of all time, or he can't be in a
Speaker 17: room with those guys. Because he didn't win a championship,
Speaker 17: they don't discuss those things.
Speaker 2: I still think this is a roundabout way of Lebron
Speaker 2: talking about, Hey, I didn't win as many championships as Michael,
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean I'm not the goat. You have
Speaker 2: an obsession with winning championships when it's about a lot
Speaker 2: more than just that.
Speaker 3: It's a lot more than one player.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm reading way too much into this, but
Speaker 2: it feels like felt like when I heard it, it's
Speaker 2: Lebron saying I might end up with four, but look
Speaker 2: at what I did my entire career, and he's got
Speaker 2: a point, Like I can say, the best resume in
Speaker 2: the history of the NBA is Lebron James. A number
Speaker 2: of times he went to a championship. He won four titles, MVPs,
Speaker 2: all time leading scorer up there and all time leader
Speaker 2: and assists, steals, all Star performances, appearances, still relevant, still
Speaker 2: playing well, still getting twenty five at night, you're in
Speaker 2: your four.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I look at that, it's hard to
Speaker 3: argue with that.
Speaker 2: Now you can say, well, Bill Russell won those titles
Speaker 2: he did, he was the lynchpin he was the guy
Speaker 2: on the greatest dynasty that we've seen in sports. He
Speaker 2: wasn't a great offensive player, he was just a great player.
Speaker 2: What do you need from me? That was So it's
Speaker 2: different with that because that's a team. The whole team
Speaker 2: went to the Hall of Fame. Your coach, GM is
Speaker 2: maybe the greatest of all time, pulled off some of
Speaker 2: the greatest trades in the history of the sport, maybe
Speaker 2: the greatest trades in the history of the sport. But
Speaker 2: I think if you look at start to finish living
Speaker 2: up to the hype everything that he did, you can
Speaker 2: make it, you know, a worthy argument that he's the
Speaker 2: greatest of all time. But it'll come back to Mike
Speaker 2: never got to a seventh game. Mike won six titles,
Speaker 2: Mike took time off. If you had one game to win,
Speaker 2: who do you want, Michael or Lebron. You know we've
Speaker 2: done this many, many, many times. But I think Lebron
Speaker 2: is getting at getting to a point of I don't
Speaker 2: need six to be the greatest of all time. Raj
Speaker 2: in Chicago, Hey, Raj, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 18: Good morning, mister Patrick. Thanks for taking my call. As always,
Speaker 18: I'm not sure if anybody mentioned San Antonio Spurs, who
Speaker 18: the opposite of I'm a dynasty. I mean he won
Speaker 18: five ships in fifteen years, but none of them what consecutive.
Speaker 18: They was always in in composition for a title. But
Speaker 18: you know, does anybody look at them as, you know,
Speaker 18: a dynasty?
Speaker 13: Thanks taking my call?
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Ron. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: I think we look at that Spurs run as a dynasty.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Mark, Especially when you have one player that's a constant,
Speaker 9: which was Tim Duncan, you can consider that a dynasty.
Speaker 9: If it was Tim Duncan for the first four championships
Speaker 9: and then somebody else, it might not be. But if
Speaker 9: there's a constant, then I consider a dynasty.
Speaker 3: Tom in North Carolina, Hi, Tom, wents on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Hey DP, I'm gonna take a twist on what PAULI
Speaker 10: was talking about earlier with actors. As far as dynasty,
Speaker 10: I'm gonna put it in like a movie category. Would
Speaker 10: you consider maybe Fast and Furious, Jason Bourne, The Mission
Speaker 10: Impossible movies? Are they dynastics?
Speaker 19: Sure?
Speaker 8: Sure?
Speaker 2: I guess Rocky Dynasty, Godfather Dynasty.
Speaker 3: Two movies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Godfather takes a big hit on Godfather three.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the sequel was better than the original. That only
Speaker 2: two yeah, yeah, yeah, two really good ones.
Speaker 4: That would be like The Bulls. The Bulls second run
Speaker 4: of three titles people think was better than their first
Speaker 4: run of three titles.
Speaker 3: Evan in Texas, Hi, Evan, went's on your mind today?
Speaker 19: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. Six five, two fifteen. Hey,
Speaker 19: I'm a podcast listener. So I heard the whole Todd
Speaker 19: sequence about the guy not getting out of the way
Speaker 19: from the pitch yesterday afternoon, so I wanted to just
Speaker 19: chime in a little bit. One of my favorite things
Speaker 19: about when Todd really gets on a roll is just
Speaker 19: being able to hear Marvin laughing out loud in the
Speaker 19: background through Todd's open mic. I think that that alone
Speaker 19: cements Todd is the King of comedy.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Todd is really funny when he's on trying
Speaker 2: to be really funny. That's part of the problem for
Speaker 2: a guy who thought he was a stand up comedian.
Speaker 16: We're seeing what happened on stage if your time.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank you, Evan. Yes, you are funny, but
Speaker 2: you've had you know, uh. Sandlers said this.
Speaker 3: Will Ferrell.
Speaker 2: Will Ferrell said that Todd's really funny when he's not
Speaker 2: trying to be funny.
Speaker 5: If I can make people laugh, whether it's a tender
Speaker 5: or not, that makes me feel great.
Speaker 2: And that's why you are the King of content, is
Speaker 2: what you are and our most valuable dan end Pauline
Speaker 2: has good idea bad idea?
Speaker 3: Would you explain?
Speaker 4: All right, this is a something I've been thinking about.
Speaker 4: I want the room to judge it. It's a two parter.
Speaker 4: Its one sports and one's pop culture. You guys know
Speaker 4: MTV if you ever watch MTV, it's still a channel.
Speaker 4: I didn't even really know it was still a channel,
Speaker 4: like you could find it on your basic cable. So
Speaker 4: for the past five years, MTV has basically had on
Speaker 4: repeat this show called Ridiculousness. It's kind of a reality
Speaker 4: type show. It's horrible, by the way, and but they've
Speaker 4: had it on It's not funny nor inventive, but they've
Speaker 4: had it on repeat for years and years and years.
Speaker 4: The one main channel for MTV what If MTV, which
Speaker 4: I think debuted August first one, nineteen eighty one. What
Speaker 4: If On this August First, they went back and started
Speaker 4: over and started playing day by day. For the next
Speaker 4: ten years, what MTV broadcast from nineteen eighty one to
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety one in real time, like that August first
Speaker 4: day and just play it. Yeah, and all the old
Speaker 4: school MTV fans, the older crowd that loves it could
Speaker 4: go back and watch what was the cool videos, the
Speaker 4: new shows even like the shows like the Real World
Speaker 4: would start. But do that for the next ten years
Speaker 4: and recapture that old audience.
Speaker 2: But you have to pay the artist if you're going
Speaker 2: to be airing their videos.
Speaker 4: I don't know, because MTV has a separate channel that
Speaker 4: still shows some videos, but it's not on basic cable. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's say they had the rights and could just hit
Speaker 4: play and.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm fine with that. Bring back, you know, have
Speaker 2: the old VJs. Yeah, I'm fine, it's awesome. Yeah, give
Speaker 2: me Allen Hunter again. Yeah, Martha Quinn, Martha Quinn, Yeah,
Speaker 2: loved Allen Hunter. Yes, yes, Mark, who are these people?
Speaker 2: This might be age thing?
Speaker 9: It is. I was gonna say, Carson Dally. I was like,
Speaker 9: who's Allan Hunter.
Speaker 3: That's total request live blah blah blah blah bubbah. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 3: paula short of the Goat, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4: So let's say that was an okay idea how about
Speaker 4: this one as well?
Speaker 3: What my emi, there is.
Speaker 4: No ESPN Classic anymore correct. I think it's it's gone.
Speaker 4: I think it's gone gone. What if every night around
Speaker 4: midnight or something like that. On one of the ESPN channels,
Speaker 4: they played in an hour long sports center from nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty two nineteen eighty six on this almost like this
Speaker 4: day in history, but they just said, on this day,
Speaker 4: we're gonna play the June what's the date today? The
Speaker 4: June eighteenth, nineteen ninety Sports Center and you could tune
Speaker 4: in and watch it. What were the cool highlights, what
Speaker 4: were the cool interviews? And for the old schools sports
Speaker 4: fans and the new school fans, they could learn about
Speaker 4: what was going on on that date.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with them, all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so long as I get approval of my hair
Speaker 2: when I'm going to be on, because there are a
Speaker 2: couple of couple of years where it's kind of rough.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it'd be fun.
Speaker 4: I like those ideas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you came up with them, That's what I
Speaker 2: really Yeah, you really like those ideas.
Speaker 3: But those are good?
Speaker 8: Is there?
Speaker 3: Fun? Yeah? Scott and Virginia, Hi, Scott, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 20: So a few things first, of all, I'm not a
Speaker 20: Lebron James fan, but I agree with them on this one, don't.
Speaker 20: I don't understand the infatuation with championships, specifically into getting
Speaker 20: in the Hall of Fame. And you know, I'm a
Speaker 20: big baseball fan, and you know, they don't talk about
Speaker 20: baseball players Tony Glenn, Rod Crew, how many championships they
Speaker 20: want to get in the Hall of Fame. So you
Speaker 20: can't elevate your entire team when there's you know, in
Speaker 20: baseball thirty two players in football eighty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it helps a pitcher.
Speaker 2: It helps when a pitcher has won big games in
Speaker 2: the World Series.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Scott.
Speaker 2: And you're right, we don't hold Bonds accountable for not winning.
Speaker 2: He was a great player. You know how many World
Speaker 2: Series you know, did stand Usual win, Ted Williams win,
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth win. Like, we kind of have an idea,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it matters, but you do.
Speaker 2: You're elevated when you go Kurt Shilling playoffs, man John
Speaker 2: Smoltz playoffs, Andy Pettitt playoffs, Whitey Ford playoffs. You're elevated
Speaker 2: if you're a pitcher because you can go out and
Speaker 2: win a game yes, Mark.
Speaker 9: Baseball was about numbers. I remember four h six was
Speaker 9: Ted Williams, Willie May six sixty, Babe Ruth seven to fourteen.
Speaker 9: Those were That's what was important, not the number of championships.
Speaker 9: I had no idea Ted Williams never won the World Series. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I told him maybe I just read it in a
Speaker 9: book somewhere. Yeah, So that wasn't important. It was just
Speaker 9: about the numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely numbers driven. I don't know if we're trying
Speaker 2: to think, who do you hold accountable for not winning?
Speaker 2: I mean, Bond's greatness, but he never won, and who
Speaker 2: else would be in that category? And Jeter gets credit
Speaker 2: for winning And granted three thousand hits will still get
Speaker 2: I mean, he had far more than three thousand hits,
Speaker 2: but that'll get you in the Hall of Fame. But
Speaker 2: his his status is elevated because he won and he
Speaker 2: was really good in the postseason.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 9: Is there any players that are in the Hall of
Speaker 9: Fame where you're like, Eh, if he didn't have that
Speaker 9: World Series championship, he might not be in.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's some guys who were in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: but it's a while ago where you're like huh, that guy.
Speaker 9: Some of those old Yankees probably.
Speaker 2: There, there were I just remember looking through and you're going,
Speaker 2: I don't remember him being a Hall of Famer, Yeah, PAULI, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It does feel like in football, it's clear cut. If
Speaker 4: you get a Super Bowl, it's hard not to do
Speaker 4: as a quarterback. As a quarterback, you know, like if
Speaker 4: Phil Rivers had one Super Bowl victory where he was MVP,
Speaker 4: we wouldn't even discuss him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but La Danian Tomlinson didn't win anything, and nobody
Speaker 2: says way never won anything. It's quarterbacks, quarterbacks, quarterbacks, and
Speaker 2: it feels like pitchers, or at least it used to be.
Speaker 2: Not anymore in baseball, but if you wanted to it
Speaker 2: was held against Clayton Kershaw. He was going to be
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. But it's like Greg Maddox not
Speaker 2: good in the postseason. Tom glab An average in the postseason.
Speaker 2: John Smolts, you get in the Hall of Fame because
Speaker 2: you're a great postseason pitcher. Jack Morris probably got in
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame because he was a really good
Speaker 2: postseason pitcher.
Speaker 9: Yes, Mark, if Andy Petti didn't get busted for the peds,
Speaker 9: is he in the Hall of Fame because he had
Speaker 9: a great postseason career.
Speaker 3: Probably so, and he pitched for the Yankees. Yes, probably so.
Speaker 3: But then he get popped twice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, PAULI, I think it's once for pettit and he
Speaker 4: jumped on the grenade. Remember after he got it, he
Speaker 4: jumped on and did the interview two days later, and
Speaker 4: I was trying to get back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they see that's so phony.
Speaker 4: It didn't help his cause.
Speaker 3: No, so anybody who gets hurt, then you have a
Speaker 3: whole passed to use steroids to get back because you
Speaker 3: got to help your team.
Speaker 2: I mean, I get somebody gave him that advice and
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I'll just say I'm the ultimate team player.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to get back. Mm not so fast, Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: Hunt or you.
Speaker 5: Could always misremember his teammates that card they put it.
Speaker 9: In my smoothie.
Speaker 16: I don't know what my trainer. Why would he put
Speaker 16: that in.
Speaker 2: My Thank God that we're so past that. At least
Speaker 2: I hope we're past that. As a kid who might
Speaker 2: not kid anymore, but he played minor league baseball, and
Speaker 2: I told this story in greater detail.
Speaker 3: But when they knew that they were going to be tested.
Speaker 2: There was a shake that they could drink and they
Speaker 2: would always test negative and they'd get a heads up
Speaker 2: and then you know, you drink your shake. Because in
Speaker 2: the minors they were far more diligent of trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, keep the steroids out of getting to Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball. The commissioner, Bud Seelig said, I can test
Speaker 2: him in the minor leagues. I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: able to do it the same way in the major leagues.
Speaker 2: But this is a guy now, but he was a
Speaker 2: kid at the time and he had They said, they
Speaker 2: took this shake and it covered everything up.
Speaker 3: Let's take a break. Last call for phone calls?
Speaker 16: Do you mean a prescription?
Speaker 3: What we learned? What's in store tomorrow?
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Speaker 3: Last call for phone calls? Well, we learned. What's day
Speaker 3: in sports history?
Speaker 4: Paul, Dan It's very light today, almost very almost, So
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you this week in movie history nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty four. Here are movies that were released in a
Speaker 4: eight day span in nineteen eighty four, Long Time Ago,
Speaker 4: Streets of Fire, Diane Lane, Willem Defoe's debut fun movie
Speaker 4: How About This one? Ghostbusters three hundred million dollars released today,
Speaker 4: The Karate Kid Okay, Top Secret with Val Kilmer kind
Speaker 4: of his breakout bachelor Party with Tom Hanks before it
Speaker 4: became a serious actor and one of your favorite Dand
Speaker 4: Cannonball Run two.
Speaker 3: I thought everything was answered in Cannonball Run one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, But.
Speaker 2: I kid Adam Sandler about if they do Grown Ups three,
Speaker 2: I'll go, didn't we answer all the questions in grown
Speaker 2: Ups and Grown Ups two?
Speaker 3: And He's like, no, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Danny, So like, hey, if you want to have grown
Speaker 2: Ups three and you want to put me in, be
Speaker 2: more than happy on this date. In two thousand, Tiger
Speaker 2: Woods won his first US Open. He won by fifteen
Speaker 2: shots over No, No, that's the US Open. You won
Speaker 2: by fifteen shots over everybody. They should have put Tiger
Speaker 2: alone on the leader board and then gone to the
Speaker 2: second page just out of respect for what he did.
Speaker 2: Nobody should be up there second. And it was Ernie
Speaker 2: Else and Miguel I hel Jimenez, who is second in
Speaker 2: that US Open at Pebble Beach.
Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, I don't know if.
Speaker 4: There's a sports comp for what Tiger did there to
Speaker 4: blow away the field of the other best people on earth.
Speaker 2: Katie Ladeki. Oh, but she's not swimming against everybody.
Speaker 4: Kind of is everyone had a chance to be in
Speaker 4: that pool.
Speaker 2: But not everybody is in that event. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 2: the total dumb when you're finished and then they're I
Speaker 2: mean they're gonna be done. It's going to take a
Speaker 2: few seconds when you're dry, Yes, when you're driving home
Speaker 2: and they just finish. The dugout altercation between Reggie Jackson
Speaker 2: and Billy Martin in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 3: This is on National TV.
Speaker 2: Reggie fails to hustle to catch a fly ball, comes
Speaker 2: into the dugout and Billy Martin is waiting for him,
Speaker 2: the manager of the Yankees, and Billy would have fought him.
Speaker 2: I mean, he probably would have gotten crushed by Reggie.
Speaker 2: But imagine if that would happen now, like one Soto
Speaker 2: comes in and doesn't hustle, Well, that can actually happen.
Speaker 3: I don't know if any like we're not.
Speaker 2: Such sticklers of running hard anymore, you know, Ah, you
Speaker 2: got to it.
Speaker 1: You know, you.
Speaker 2: Tried kind of I don't know if we're benching somebody.
Speaker 2: Let me see Jeff in Washington. Hi, Jeff, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 8: Born Dan? Danette's first time and very long time six
Speaker 8: feet about ten seems to be in two ten. Okay,
Speaker 8: So I wanted to talk. I wanted to talk to you,
Speaker 8: Dan about your comments about lebron So. One of one
Speaker 8: of the things I shared with the guys that in
Speaker 8: the back room were that without hearing the context of
Speaker 8: the conversation or what the question might have been, because
Speaker 8: I am respectfully in opposition to what your thoughts are
Speaker 8: in that, I believe that it just has to do
Speaker 8: with you know, why guys that haven't won championships shouldn't
Speaker 8: be in the Hall of Fame, Barkley Nash.
Speaker 3: But they are. They are in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: Both Nash and Barkley.
Speaker 17: So.
Speaker 8: But the pedestal, the pedestal that they're.
Speaker 2: Held to is Dan Marino's in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: Alan Iverson's. Everybody mentions in the Hall of Fame. They've
Speaker 2: all been recognized for their greatness.
Speaker 8: Okay, I got to I stand corrected in on my
Speaker 8: apologies and thanks for taking my call down, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: No worries, Jeff. Once again, these guys were all recognized
Speaker 2: as among the greatest you know, at their positions in
Speaker 2: their sports. That's why I don't know exactly what Lebron
Speaker 2: is saying. Yeah, they didn't win a title, Okay. It
Speaker 2: felt like he's saying, I won't catch Michael. Let's look
Speaker 2: at everything I've done, Why can't I be the greatest
Speaker 2: of all time?
Speaker 8: This is just my.
Speaker 2: Opinion, and I don't know the context other than what
Speaker 2: he said. The first thing that struck me is Lebron
Speaker 2: thinks he's the greatest of all time. He does, and
Speaker 2: he should.
Speaker 3: I just he's still trying to convince the Jordan purist.
Speaker 2: Hey look at this differently. I think that's what he's asking.
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion. Todd, call for Lebron?
Speaker 8: Why not?
Speaker 3: Okay? James in Virginia, Hi James, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 20: Oh?
Speaker 13: Thank you for taking my call. Brother. Happy Wednesday, DT Dan,
Speaker 13: that's man. Salute the commanders and speaking of the commanders,
Speaker 13: and then Washington Redskins, Hail to the Redskins. My favorite
Speaker 13: Dumonde of all time. Between eighty two ninety one, five
Speaker 13: NFC championships for Super Bowl, three Super Bowl rings, and
Speaker 13: you were right, fiveman, Ripkins. But it was Doug Williams
Speaker 13: in the eighty seven Super Bowl against the Denver Broncos
Speaker 13: with the greatest quarter of all time thirty five points
Speaker 13: and seventeen plays. What a game, man, Too bad, I
Speaker 13: was only four. I couldn't watch it like that. I'll
Speaker 13: give a little pushback if you win three out of five,
Speaker 13: if the goals win championships. The San Francisco Giants are
Speaker 13: definitely a dynasty. Two comments, real quick. But Lebron James
Speaker 13: a dynasty just by himself. Lebron James nine straight finals,
Speaker 13: three titles and haul of very good. Michael Vick, hate
Speaker 13: to throw it on you in the last five minutes,
Speaker 13: but if Michael.
Speaker 7: Vick all of very good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not a Hall of Famer if I include
Speaker 2: college en pros, but they don't do that with the NFL.
Speaker 4: Yes, Baul he unfortunately his first ballot of Hall of
Speaker 4: should have done a lot more.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think we look at him as a disappointment,
Speaker 2: not like the stephen A said that Giannis, if he
Speaker 2: doesn't win another title.
Speaker 3: Will be an underachiever.
Speaker 2: What really, you think you'd be an underachiever?
Speaker 9: Did you see him when he first got today?
Speaker 3: He came out of no way. He's one of the
Speaker 3: great stories in NBA history.
Speaker 9: Yeah, what do you do with it?
Speaker 3: He won two MVPs and then a title.
Speaker 4: They would leave a Janis with a solitaire ring.
Speaker 3: Todd, what did I learn today?
Speaker 16: And Mon Shepherd said the scottingerpon on Kobe was good
Speaker 16: luck trying to stop him.
Speaker 2: A lot of fun today. Thanks for joining us. We
Speaker 2: look forward to trying to entertain you tomorrow. For Fritzie Seaton,
Speaker 2: Marv Paula, yours. Truly, this has been the Dan Patrick Show.