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<v Speaker 1>Forty to Adams, Scheffer and p and Harrol have expressed

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<v Speaker 1>interest in the Chicago Bears head coaching job and would

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<v Speaker 1>like to return to the sideline next season. Three teams

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears, that just to say, are in the market

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<v Speaker 1>for a head coach who can help reset their culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Few coaches have had it more effective than Caroly doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Carol is one of the four head coaches that have

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<v Speaker 1>led teams to both National Championship and Super Bowls. Barrett Switzer,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Johnson, and Jim Harbaugh. I like I like Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>but not in Chicago. They need an offensive they need look,

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<v Speaker 1>they can get a deep of it. But he had

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<v Speaker 1>to go scower and get a college maybe even a

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<v Speaker 1>college O c that's creative, that knows how to work

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<v Speaker 1>with the skill set of what.

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams possessed.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't he can't go get one of those conventional

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<v Speaker 1>guys that he had and in Seattle that ain't gonna work. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you know what I think.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about the Chicago job, and I like what

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<v Speaker 4>you said about Pete Carroll, who is a players coach.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the coach, I mean, the players were gravity

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<v Speaker 4>to gravitate, gravitate towards him. But you do need an

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<v Speaker 4>officer coordinator that has the creativity, that can that can

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<v Speaker 4>help Caleb Wes use some of use his skill set

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<v Speaker 4>to atibility you know, and what he's able to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>another another job. Now, we talked about Mike McCarthy, right,

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<v Speaker 4>we just talked about the other night. Ben Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to think about this Ben Johnson, Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 4>head coach. You know, I haven't heard his I heard

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<v Speaker 4>his name mentioned before, but it was never with the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Ben Johnson would be the perfect fit for

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<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys and working with Dak and bringing some of

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<v Speaker 4>that creativity that he does over there in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 5>Now he doesn't have the same personnel to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to do some of the things he did. But based

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<v Speaker 5>on what you have and what he knows he has

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<v Speaker 5>the strengths and the weaknesses of the players on that team,

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<v Speaker 5>I think we will do some damage as that head coach. Hell,

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<v Speaker 5>matter of fact, head coach and officer coordinator, keep calling

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<v Speaker 5>the players Aaron Dallas too. If the opportunity presents itself,

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<v Speaker 5>then we win Saturday, we play Saturday.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm not mis when we play and win Saturday,

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<v Speaker 4>then we do. We will take care of business stealers.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, we focus on the Bronco country. We focused

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<v Speaker 4>on the Broncos Bronco country because after that game, Bronco.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I'm sorry, y'all, they got no y'all talking about

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<v Speaker 1>welcome getting a jungle.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not gonna be y'all yeah, yeah, hey, that's hey,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a jungle.

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<v Speaker 5>It's said, oh it's it's a jungle. Now, no, y'all,

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<v Speaker 5>y'all will be playing all that.

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<v Speaker 2>We We're going to my high.

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<v Speaker 4>And so what you think for the country, what you

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<v Speaker 4>think for that matter of fact, I'm gonna go to

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<v Speaker 4>that game. Matter of fact, I'm gonna go to that game.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey A Patrick certain junior. Do you realize you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>do it out there when they target ps two?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh? That QB that rating is like thirty six point one.

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<v Speaker 1>You come out better than just throwing the ball in

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<v Speaker 1>the dirt. You'll have a high quarterback radio if you just.

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<v Speaker 5>Threw the ball in the dirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Kay already? You want you want the best something on

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<v Speaker 2>them on the matchup three band? You don't want nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you how much? Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's let's let's dark double double money from the

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<v Speaker 1>bank nothing, don't pay them back.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like your hat, give me money, give me.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to give me double what I borrowed

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<v Speaker 2>from you, and I'm gonna pay your back. No, you

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<v Speaker 2>ain't good for it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were good for it, for it though, my money,

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<v Speaker 1>drawing interest in your pocket, doubling nothing mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>You know with double it up then, because with one thing.

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<v Speaker 5>About it, I'm gonna get money slightly dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Fight because you know I'm good for it. But we ain't.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna fight because I listen, I I'm not going

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<v Speaker 5>to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>What I tell people right here, Oh Joe. If I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get you off off me, you welcome to the state.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you that that ball I got for you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get on BEF and I can't get you off,

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<v Speaker 1>feel pree to stay there, but I promise you'll better.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make it turn me loose. Jerry gushus, Oh, Mike McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>After the Cowboys win, this would be a very interesting question.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully Oh Jo can get connected real soon. If Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's job, say yeah, I've never seen a team seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be so happy with winning what they're seven and

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<v Speaker 1>eight now, I've never seen a team so happy to

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<v Speaker 1>win seven games. This is the Dallas Cowboys, a team

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<v Speaker 1>that have Super Bowl aspirations, have playoff aspirations, a deep

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<v Speaker 1>playoff run. Considering the last three years they won twelve games,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been twelve and five the last three years. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden they celebrating to be seven and eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I guess you know. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's back in Jerry's good graces. He talked about he

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised, he was, he was glad the way he

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<v Speaker 1>got them guys to play. I thought that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach job was supposed to be. I thought that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he was supposed to do. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to get the guys to play hard every single game.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, guys, you collect in a check. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to play hard and show up every game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess not in Dallas. I mean, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>out of the playoff, you're supposed to not play hard.

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<v Speaker 1>In the coach job to get you to play hard

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<v Speaker 1>and to earn your check.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I guess we're just looking I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at it. We look at it through different lenses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be very interesting. Do I think Jerry's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bring Mike McCarthy back. I do. I do because he

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<v Speaker 1>loves the power. He doesn't want any to give up

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<v Speaker 1>any control. And I think we all can say this

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<v Speaker 1>that Mike McCarthy as head coaching title only Jerry still

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<v Speaker 1>does everything. Jerry does all to speak, and Jerry lets

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<v Speaker 1>you know who's playing, who's signing. He doesn't have McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have any say over the final fifty three, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have anything in free agency, doesn't have so Jerry likes

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody's that's gonna challenge him for his or his

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<v Speaker 1>opinion on things. I mean, Jerry gets to go unchecked.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get it, he's the owner, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he does his coaches any service by emasculating them,

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<v Speaker 1>by letting the players know that he's in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>not the coach. And I'm just firm believer that the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that I've been a part that's been been successful,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've had a little success in the NFL, is

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<v Speaker 1>that you have one voice. You have one sound, and

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<v Speaker 1>right now the one sound, and it doesn't come from

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<v Speaker 1>the owner. It comes from the guy that stands before

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<v Speaker 1>those guys on a daily basis in that locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>in that meeting room, and and and try to get

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<v Speaker 1>those guys on one accord.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just hard for me to believe that that

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<v Speaker 2>will end up happening with with Mike McCarthy. But it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the coach, it's Jerry. Jerry has his way

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<v Speaker 2>of doing things.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's not gonna change no matter how much us in

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<v Speaker 1>the media we talk about it, no matter how much

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<v Speaker 1>the fans talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry likes it this way. He likes the control that

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<v Speaker 2>he has.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jerry is more interested in and and money

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<v Speaker 1>than he is winning championships because it doesn't matter. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the most valuable franchise in pro sports, so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if they win, it doesn't matter if they lose,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're gonna make a boat load of money. They're

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<v Speaker 1>ten billion dollars, so they're gonna make a boat load

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<v Speaker 1>of money regardless. So with that being said, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Jerry changes anything and moving forward, But we'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens. I mean, it sure sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry wanted to keep Mike McCarthy, but things can change.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe if they crash out these last two games, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry changes his mind. Maybe Hey, they win these last

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<v Speaker 1>two games, Jerry might give him a three or four

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<v Speaker 1>year contract extension.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be very very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens with Mike McCarthy and the Dallas Cowboys when

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<v Speaker 1>these final two games wraps up. It's gonna be very

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting. I'm interested to see. I think all of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have been interested to see. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guys know where kind of where this thing

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<v Speaker 1>is headed. So It's gonna be very, very interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see how these Cowboys and Mike MacArthur and Jerry Jones

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<v Speaker 1>plays out. They've had a very very disappointing season. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody can attest that. Nobody's surprised by that. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not what we expected from the Cowboys. We thought

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<v Speaker 1>this year they were gonna make a No, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think that, but a lot of people thought they were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make a deep playoff run because every year you

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<v Speaker 1>hear this is the most talented team. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're talented that talented. I think Ced is

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<v Speaker 1>a phenomenal wide receiver. Uh, they need a running back.

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<v Speaker 1>Dadella's played better over the last six weeks of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Offensive line needs some improvements. Diggs it's good, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>nicked again. Gonna be interesting to see how he comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>They have some players, but I think they need to

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<v Speaker 1>improve on the offensive defensive line, offensive line, defensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>get better in that interior.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were talking about Jerry gushing over Mike McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you think, Mike McCarthy, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all a game, that's all a game.

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<v Speaker 4>You understand owner's behavior patterns when it comes to when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to players, when it comes to coaches, because

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<v Speaker 4>you win a game or something happens good in a

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<v Speaker 4>short time span, but they don't forget how they played

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<v Speaker 4>the entirety of the season. Mike McCarthy's job is not safe.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry Jones knows that gushing like that and saying nice

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<v Speaker 4>things to have him thinking, or to have the public thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>to draw attention not only to himself, knowing that Mike

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<v Speaker 4>McCarthy's not going to be the head coach next year

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<v Speaker 4>is full of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's full of shit.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's done it before. He done it with players,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's done with coaches. This is this is the one, two,

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<v Speaker 4>three four time he's done something like this. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to bring up the names where he's gussed about

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<v Speaker 4>them and said good things about them, including players in

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<v Speaker 4>season when they're playing well and things have happened behind

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<v Speaker 4>closed doors and they've been.

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<v Speaker 1>Fired and they lost their job. So you think Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy is only absolutely he's looking not only not only

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<v Speaker 1>is he looking for another coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not looking for a big name.

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<v Speaker 4>He's looking for someone else who can be I hate

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<v Speaker 4>saying this and excuse me, I mean no disrespect to

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<v Speaker 4>Mike McCarthy. Someone that can be a puppet, someone where

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<v Speaker 4>he can still be the center of attention. But he's thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to want to go in a different direction

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<v Speaker 4>to see who can have that can be the leader

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<v Speaker 4>of men, that can get them to winning like they did,

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<v Speaker 4>like they did before, the previous the previous three year,

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<v Speaker 4>before before this year where they went twelve to five.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm not mistaken, over and over, even though they

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<v Speaker 4>lost in the first round of the playoffs. He's looking

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<v Speaker 4>for someone else new. He just is and and and

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<v Speaker 4>saying saying the things that he said. He's always saying

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<v Speaker 4>good things. He's always saying good things, like when they're winning,

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<v Speaker 4>or they win a game, or they beat a certain team,

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<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden, that team, that specific Cowboys team,

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden looks like the Cowboys of the

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<v Speaker 4>nineties when they wont when they won championships. Like it

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<v Speaker 4>just it just he just says anything till you take

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<v Speaker 4>a brand assaut.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shoe.

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<v Speaker 1>Less than a week after The Athletic published a story

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<v Speaker 1>detailing the dysfunction within the New York Jets organization, Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers used his latest appearance on The Pat McAfee Show

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<v Speaker 1>to address leaks to journalists. There are some interesting things

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<v Speaker 1>that go on in every organization, some that would like

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<v Speaker 1>to be left uncovered, But it seems like there are

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<v Speaker 1>those that don't always that doesn't that don't always get

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<v Speaker 1>left uncovered, they get covered. It can't be the norm

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<v Speaker 1>that so many leaks and so many people continue to

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<v Speaker 1>have conversation, whether it's getting some sort of angle, revenge

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<v Speaker 1>or even what people are still in the building. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he't say nothing was untrue, but anyway, Okay, obviously what's

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<v Speaker 1>best for the Jets is not having those types of

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<v Speaker 1>leaks all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>When you get when that gets figured out, it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a little easier to win.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't That doesn't have a direct impact on players

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<v Speaker 1>in the feat, but it does have an impact on

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<v Speaker 1>the culture and the chemistry and the overall energy of

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<v Speaker 1>the building.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what needs to get better.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how you talk about the culture and the

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<v Speaker 1>energy when that wasn't an issue with the mandatory minicamp.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't he didn't concern himself about culture.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm trying to figure out how does he

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<v Speaker 1>think a culture gets established?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, does he understand how a culture get established?

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady was not missing minicamp in order for the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriot way, which was the Brady way. But if the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriot it's a team, because it's the Patriots that started

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<v Speaker 1>coming out and the Super Bowl introduction as a team.

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<v Speaker 1>Now everybody comes out of the team because prior to

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<v Speaker 1>that they brought the offense out or they brought the

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<v Speaker 1>defense out. The Patriots came out of the team. But

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady was the foundation piece. Okay, how can Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady show up the mandatory minicamp or Ota and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else not be there?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>How does Fayton Manny? How does the ray Lewis? How

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<v Speaker 1>does these guys show up? The great thing about a leader?

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<v Speaker 1>And after what I tell young people today, you can

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<v Speaker 1>never ask more than you're willing to give. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>ask somebody to do something that you're not willing to

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<v Speaker 1>do your damn self. So how do I tell guys,

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<v Speaker 1>guys we need to show up, Guys, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be here. Let's spend a little extra meeting time. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>go look at your home onn BRO. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>that manager minute heap we had? Yeah, guys, will look

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<v Speaker 1>at your sideways.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, do you think you think he's lost more than players,

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<v Speaker 4>the respect of his teammates? You know, you think you

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<v Speaker 4>think about how we view Aaron Rodgers on the outside.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious of how the players in the locker room

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<v Speaker 4>view him.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, I've never played with anyone like that that has

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<v Speaker 1>some of the issues that he does, have said some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that he does say, missing some of.

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<v Speaker 4>The important things when it comes to the game of football.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been on a team with someone like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm curious how today's player players, this era of

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<v Speaker 4>type of no nonsense, do it your way, the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of culture we have now, and the type of individuals

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<v Speaker 4>we have in this in today's game, the young era,

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<v Speaker 4>as I as I call it, I wonder how they

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<v Speaker 4>view them as teammates.

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<v Speaker 2>Serious, Yeah, you meet from a distance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, basically on my experience, I look at Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>as an influence in the locker room, not a leader

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 5>What when you say influence not the influence hasn't been good,

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<v Speaker 5>has it hadn't You tell me?

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, they say you might be teammates, but you're not

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<v Speaker 4>here to be friends. You're here for one job and

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<v Speaker 4>the job that he's therefore ain't getting done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hard when you played that position because you're

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<v Speaker 1>normally you ask the guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You ask me. Look at the teams that win, and

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<v Speaker 2>look at the leaders in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at Brady, look at Manny, look at a Lewis,

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<v Speaker 1>Look at those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They win consistently.

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<v Speaker 1>They win because they do things, and when they ask

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<v Speaker 1>someone else to do it, it's not a problem because

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<v Speaker 1>that guy knows. This is exactly what Tom Brady's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is exactly what Ray Lewis is doing. This is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what Peyton Manning is doing. This is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>John Elway is doing. Now I ask you to do

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<v Speaker 1>something mm hm, and you're not doing sad things. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're not doing sad things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a little I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I love I look. I love the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I do about loved about seven and I want it

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<v Speaker 1>for my leader because I wanted football to be the

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<v Speaker 1>most important thing. Because you're telling me, you telling me

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to be the most important thing to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you say, shut it. I want you to study, shutter,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to be in the best feat physical

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<v Speaker 1>condition you possibly can be. I want you to give

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<v Speaker 1>it you all, but that's not what you're doing right.

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<v Speaker 1>How can you ask commanding you something that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>willing to. Yes, stories gonna get out. I think more

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<v Speaker 1>stories have got but stories got out in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we found out that the packers did not

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<v Speaker 1>run to hire Matt Lafloor highed by Aaron Rodgers. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how we found out that that Matt Murphy. Mark Murphy said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you be the purpose they leaked? Things are leaked

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose. Yes, yeah, I mean he knows.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he I mean you've been around the NFL

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<v Speaker 4>long enough to understand how things get out. Love, there's

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<v Speaker 4>always a source, there's always a leak, and things that

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<v Speaker 4>come out they come out on purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a reason for it, you know, Uh, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that.

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<v Speaker 2>And people like, oh, that's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to understand there's a reason why the Chefters

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<v Speaker 1>and the Shams and rest his Soul, Chris Mortenson and

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<v Speaker 1>the Drake Glaziers, Glazier there's a reason why they have jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>They fostered in cultivated relationships with individuals, be it players,

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<v Speaker 1>be it coach, be it owners be at general managers,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when stuff comes out, why are we shocked

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<v Speaker 1>you heard it? You just didn't want to believe it

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<v Speaker 1>because it was about your favorite team. It was about

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite players, so you didn't want to believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the writing was on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>It does look. I had a great Adam Shefter and

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<v Speaker 2>I came into the league together. He was in Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to go I used to go to dinner

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<v Speaker 1>with Adam Shefter and his parents when they came to town.

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<v Speaker 1>I had that type of relationship. But you ain't getting

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<v Speaker 1>no football stuff out of Shennon. Now, our relationship is

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<v Speaker 1>our relationship. Hey, you came in, you were the rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the rookie together. Hey, we loved Hey. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the extent of it. I'm not giving you no

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<v Speaker 1>information I've had For the most part, I've always had

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<v Speaker 1>a great relationship. Be it Mark Killsler, Woody Page. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know all the guys that wrote for Denver, Bob Kravitz.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Cravitz, he writes, I think he's the coll him

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<v Speaker 1>as an Indian now he was in Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always had great relationships with him. They asked me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be as honest as I possibly can. But you

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<v Speaker 2>watching the game, but I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Giving you no information such and such as he's not

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<v Speaker 1>he's dogged in it, and he misspracticed and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come to meetings. I don't do none of that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I was on first take, and I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>if this no MVP is not over, it is not over.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I always advise people. And I used

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for a decade.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a vote. I voted for the m v P.

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<v Speaker 2>I voted for the first to you, the All Pro Team.

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<v Speaker 1>I voted for the wards O til you know, Offensive

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Year, defense and so forth and sol

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<v Speaker 1>and I waited to the bear. And I took it serious.

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<v Speaker 1>And I obviously, you know, being in studio, get an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to watch all the game. I ain't just watching highlight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching because that's why I felt very comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I took it serious. I'm not just going by a fugure,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not just going by names, because I think the

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<v Speaker 1>All Pro Team is serious because you talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>best players regardless of conference. So I'm just not your name.

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<v Speaker 1>Your name means nothing nothing. I'm basic on play that year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to take away the all protein that

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<v Speaker 1>you got selected on before. That's not what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But if I don't feel you deserving of

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<v Speaker 1>that that that honor this year, I'm not voting for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really that simple.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, Lamar, And I said this, I said, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>got to look at Lamar's stats. I mean, the man

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<v Speaker 1>has thirty seven touchdowns, four picks, and then you're throwing

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<v Speaker 1>his rushing total, so he's forty touchdowns with like six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven turnovers. You look at his you look at

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<v Speaker 1>his passing numbers. That's what Aaron Rodgers was doing when

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<v Speaker 1>he was winning MVP, throwing forty plus touchdowns with single

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<v Speaker 1>digit interceptions. That's what he's doing now. I do think,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can correct me from wrong, bigging like, but

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, he got a guy that's rushed for sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards in his backfield, so so what what what

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<v Speaker 1>are we gonna do with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think I think that you know it it.

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<v Speaker 1>His numbers are his numbers now right now. If you

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<v Speaker 1>if I had a vote, I probably would vote for Lamar, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I would. I would vote for Lamar has your vote?

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<v Speaker 1>Is your vote swayed because of the performance that Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Allen Josh all yeah, just like it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>it was swayed when Lamar and them lost and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just like it was swayed when he played against Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember he didn't play well. Right, this week he came

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<v Speaker 2>back and he played better.

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<v Speaker 1>And you look at the last couple of weeks, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Allen had like ten touchdowns in two games.

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<v Speaker 2>How can it not?

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<v Speaker 1>But we gotta be a fair We got evaluated on

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<v Speaker 1>what we see. They got two games left. I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe Lamar Jackson can win and be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet those odds from Josh Allen winning the MVP

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<v Speaker 1>ain't what they started today.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you that. What are the odds?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Ask me, well, he started at minus nine hundred today, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he started at minus nine hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I don't like.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like the fact that when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the MVP award is an individual accomplishment, but it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to what's necessary to win it as far as the

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<v Speaker 4>team's success as well. They take that into account as well,

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<v Speaker 4>Because if we were talking about m v P. From

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<v Speaker 4>a statistical standpoint. In stats, I look at Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 4>and yes, well why is he not in the conversation,

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<v Speaker 4>And then everyone says, well, the team itself is losing, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore he's not, you know, he's I mean he I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he goes. I mean there's a chance, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>You never gonna get the m v P on the

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>guy that didn't the team to make the playoffs, right, right, right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing. I think Joe has had a

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal season.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, had they have a they had a record similar

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<v Speaker 1>to uh Lamars, or they had a record similar to

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen, we got we got a whole different discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, but the guy m V and the guys,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the.

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<v Speaker 5>He's seven and eight? Uh can be really, I know

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<v Speaker 5>it's tough.

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<v Speaker 4>But again that's why I just said how the gold

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Posts moves when it comes to discussion on a trophy

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 4>that's based on individual accomplishman and accolades, on what you've

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<v Speaker 4>done individually, you know, So using the team's success as

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<v Speaker 4>the reason why you can't be in the conversation, it

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 4>throws me off, just a tad bit because at the.

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<v Speaker 2>End of the day, what of those statfs means if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not winning?

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Because at the end, and this is what I used

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to argue with my co host, my partner on first

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>on Undisputed, I said, it's still a state award. You're

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>not gonna you go fifteen and oh and you got

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>three thousand yard pass it and another guy goes ten

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and six and he's got five thousand yard pass it

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and forty touchdowns, and you got three thousand yards and

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not winning that award.

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Go back and look look at all those years Drew

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Brees was storwing for five thousand yards.

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 2>How many MVPs did he win? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a stat award, but I need those stats

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to equate the wins. So if I'm piling up a

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>bunch of stats O Joe and I ain't getting no

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>wins because people go like br Yeah, well hell you

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>behind all you doing is you stat paddy? Right, because

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>none of those numbers goes towards win. Like I said,

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:23.880
<v Speaker 1>y'all don't believe it. Go back and look at Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Brees and look at me. I think he got four

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<v Speaker 1>or five five thousand yard passing season. But when you losing,

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<v Speaker 1>how can I give you an a war like that?

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Because your stats doesn't equate to win. Lamar's stats is

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 1>equating to wins. Jared Goff although he doesn't have I mean,

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>he had an outstanding day today. You look at a

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen, his numbers equates the winds Saquon. His numbers

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>equates to win. But I think the only thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>really hurting Lamar is that he got a sixty almost

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a seventeen hundred yard rush in his backfield, who's averaging

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half yards of care.

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 2>He's gotten thirteen to fourteen rushing touchdown.

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<v Speaker 5>Big what when I think about it? You know, Chat

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 5>y'all might not like this, and Uncle you might not

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 5>like this. I mean, Joe Burrow hasn't been in a

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<v Speaker 5>conversation for MVP all season long because of our record. Yes, right, correct,

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 5>But the last two games, these last two games, after

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 5>we beat the Broncos on Saturday, I'm telling you right now,

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm letting you know.

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Patrick certain Junior, you got to deal with Jamar,

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 4>Chase and t Higgins. So add Bowl knicks ain't nothing

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna get mixed. That's what's gonna happen. Well, I'm here,

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna go into Pittsburgh the following week. We're gonna

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 4>win that game. And then when we make it and

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 4>we have an opportunity to go into the playoffs because

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 4>the football guys happen to bless us that that MVP

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<v Speaker 4>conversation is gonna have to change.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a good chance. So, Joe, it's gonna hurt. Y'all

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>beat the Broncos and then lose the final game of

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the season. It's gonna hurt.

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 2>That's gonna hurt. Oh, that's gonna hurt.

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>On joke so bad because I know you're gonna be

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>happy what I tell you, Fuck, I told you it.

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Y'a gonna lose that Let what hurt? That thin gonna hurt?

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Like Shaddy say, brand new shoes.

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 4>It is it is, And that would probably that would

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 4>probably be another moment that I would get emotional on camera.

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 4>And I don't care who laughed, and I don't care

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 4>if they make me a mean because I still love and.

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Bleed and live the game of football.

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, your Bengals defeated the Browns twenty four to six.

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase past fifteen hundred yards breaks his own franchise

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>receiving yardage record.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I told you, I told you who he was. I

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 2>told you Garrett Miles.

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Garrett got his hundred sacked before turning twenty nine years

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>of age. He tied the great Bruce Smith as the

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>fourth fastest to risk get a hundred sacks. The Bengals

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>next play at on Saturday. If I'm not mistaken against

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos, correct, and we against whole Bronco. Guess who's

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna win that game? And I'm a beat here. Matter

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of fact, I'm going to the game. I hope it's cold.

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I hope it's cold because y'all don't do well. You

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>don't realize, like Denver gets cold, and Denver right, you

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>get colding Cincinnati two just as cold. Yeah, yeah, you

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>know we used to the cold. Joe Burrow twenty three

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>or thirty two fifty two, three touchdowns, zero interception, He

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>won sacks four five. They ran the ball Joe Burrow

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>ffty two times for one hundred and sixteen yards. Chase

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Brown eighteen carris ninety one yards. But it was te

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase sixth form ninety seven of the touchdown. He's

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>going to win the triple crowd. Nobody's even close to

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>him in touchdowns, catch it or yards, so he's gonna

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>get that. He had eight for fifty eight, one touchdown.

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>How you say that name little oyas just just just

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 2>say yo Yoshi Yoshi had three for fifty three and

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<v Speaker 2>a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>O Joe, Uh uh huh Cleveland, mm hmm. You have

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett looking to get up out of there.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean O Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>Most times, normally with a player like that, a player

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 4>of his caliber that doesn't cause any problems. He comes

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 4>to play week in and week out, regardless of what's

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 4>going on. You know what you're gonna get out of him.

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<v Speaker 1>You wanna You understand that as a team, as an

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>ownership GM, you understand that you're in a rebuilding stage.

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 4>You're going to have to find a quarterback one that

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 4>you can you can build. Yes, and you're in a

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 4>rebuilding stage as far as Mile Garrett is concerned. If

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 4>you care about the individual as a player, allowing not

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 4>not how do I say it, not keeping him imprisoned

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 4>while you're in a rebuilding stage, do right by the individual,

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 4>because he's always done right by you. Now, most times

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to business, they don't think like that.

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 4>But you would think in this case, in this scenario,

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 4>after what he's already said, and what he's done for you,

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 4>and what he's given that organization in that city, you

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 4>give him an opportunity to go play, play for contention,

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 4>and it gives me go ahead.

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 5>I would think, I would think and hope they would

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 5>do the right thing until until they recuify their situation

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<v Speaker 5>at the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's gonna take a king's ransom to Geini.

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about a guy that's twenty nine years of age. Premier,

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't miss time. He gives it to you every game.

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>He's great against the rusher, obviously the premire past rusher,

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>which that's what everybody's looking for. He can plays the run,

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>He's durable. He doesn't give you any problem on the

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>field or off the field. When you go to bed

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>at night, you don't worry having to worry about getting

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a call said, hey, Miles Garret is in trouble.

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 2>You don't worry about that. He's one of those guys.

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Your rest real easy knowing that he's gonna be a

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>professional both on and off the field at all times.

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>And you can respect that and you appreciate that.

0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>But it's probably gonna take two first rounders, maybe even

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a player, a quality player that's on your roster, and

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>some others, maybe a second or the third. He's not

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>coming cheap, nor should he because what in giving up

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that level of player? Oho, I need to be able

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to replace him with draft picks. Now, there's no guarantee

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you're ever gonna get a player to replace to field

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to be what he was. But I got I'm more.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>The problem is with Cleveland, they're more than Miles Garrett Away.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would come out better, Ojo. You know what

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, getting draft picks and a potential player to

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>try to pull and build from there. If I was

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>just a Miles Garret Away, I'm like, no, I'm gonna

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>keep it and if I just get one player.

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>But there are a lot of players away, Ojo.

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Especially offensively, Yeah, I think I think honestly, defensively, I

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>think they're good.

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I think they're sound.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>If they can have some adequate consistent quarterback play that

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>can you know, move they ass up and down they

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>god damn field and be able to facilitate the ball.

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 5>That we've seen from them in spurts when certain quarterbacks have.

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Been in there.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 4>I think I think they'll be fine, but I mean,

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 4>just just right now, it's not what it is. And

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I would hope they do right by Miles Garrett and

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 4>giving him the opportunity to go and play for a

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 4>contender and Cleveland.

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland played them tough for as long as they possibly could, Ojo.

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>It's just that they're undemanded the quarterback position.

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>They look at it.

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>They ran the ball twenty four times for a buck

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>forty six, so you're getting what five six, you're getting

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>basically six yards of carry, Ojo. You can't complain about that.

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Ford gave you eleven for ninety two. Your quarterback has

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>great legsy. The mobile quarterback not that accurate. But you

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>know they got a touchdown, got a call back with holding,

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>You got another big first down, got that call back

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>for holding. They're you know, they're okay, but they're they're

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>wades away offensively, Ojo.

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 2>They're ways, they are wades away. They need a couple

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 2>of wide receipts.

0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Judy is good, but I mean Judy's like

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>raw even he's thinking like, man, if I just had

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a decent quarterback, y'all still what I can do if

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>y'all got a quarterback and get me to rob y'all

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>saw that in the last three weeks. But he got

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>three targets for twenty yards. Three three targets, two catches

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty yards.

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 2>What he supposed to do with that? But, uh, absolutely nothing.

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 2>But this is a game, a game like this.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.240
<v Speaker 4>If I were Judy, you know when I think about

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 4>some of the times when I had Gus Farock, you

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 4>know when I had Scott Mitchell, when I had John Kidnap,

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 4>and understanding that you know what the offensive the offensive

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 4>play caller was going to be a little different.

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, the ball coming to me was gonna be

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a little different. So what I would do, what I

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>would do is is always before I leave on and break.

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 4>The huddle, boom. I call it mind fucking the quarterback.

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 4>He already has enough to worry about. Uh, you don't

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 4>want to buy the quarterback.

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>He has to come to the line, He has to

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>go through his redire, he has to go through his progression,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>his pre snap stuff.

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 4>So always when the play is called, right before I

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 4>leave the huddle, I tap his hip. All right, now

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm here, and just just that, just to let him

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 4>know if you want somewhere to go with the ball.

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't hear what. I don't care what. Hey, I

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>don't care what the play call is. You know that.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 2>And now hey, listen, and then you know how I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've seen the clips before.

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<v Speaker 1>I come out of the huddle and I line up

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and I see coverage and it's mad whether it's awful,

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>whether he's on.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 4>The first thing I do, or you can hit it

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 4>in the entire stadium. Just to learn the quarterback. All right, Now,

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 4>when you hear that sound, you know what time here.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Just take a peek. Now, you ain't got to do

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>much to take a quick peak. Now, if I hit

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 2>you with that, yeah, I got you nine percent of time.

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.439
<v Speaker 2>I got you like life insurance. I gotta tell carps

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 2>all the time. But you ain't got to do that.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>You ain't got to go through all that bullshit. And

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>now I got you understand that. Yeah, but Ojo, you

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>saw this again, Joe got sacked and the ball came out.

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Don't do that. Don't do that now, don't don't do that.

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Don't don't do that. So I hear you.

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I hate it, but don't do that. Come on, now,

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I understand what happened, o't Joe? You had a seven

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>point league? What happened? Yeah, the ball came Okay, Pittsburgh Baltimore.

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>You see what happening is. And see the problem with

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>fans don't understand is what you do understand. Yeah, you

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>had a fourteen point lead. But what happened when you

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have that lead? You had that lead against Baltimore,

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you had a ten point leader, and then what happened?

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You threw a pit Yeah you fumbled boom. Now you

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>had a seven point lead against Kansas City, strip sack,

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>scoop and score. Pittsburgh you threw two picks and well

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>pick and you fumbled it. That's what gets you beat.

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>You play in Cleveland, you're supposed to many walk Cleveland

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>that our offense.

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, I listen, it's still Cleveland. That the defense

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 4>ain't bad now, but the offense worse? Yeah, they had

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 4>the office is worse. But is this selher good? I remember,

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 4>this is a division game, this is a vision game,

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 4>and for some reason it's always close. Hell, look how

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 4>the Bills been playing all season and Look how they

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:05.399
<v Speaker 4>strove against Patris today.

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 5>So it's something about those games. Steelers Ravens always close.

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 5>It's never really a blowout most of the time. So

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 5>I mean, listen, the Browns had their hands full playing.

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 2>They listened.

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 5>They had to play against the greatest bang of receiver

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 5>of all time.

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Yep, the greatest of all time, the first receiver they

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 4>ever have fifteen hundred yards of the season.

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Hum, fifteen touchdowns? Wait sixteen?

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 5>Now you know they ain't never seen nothing like that

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 5>young bull from he from New Orleans.

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Boy, what a Mike Brown kicking his all step in

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the ass. I don't know why they played with him.

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>You look, I don't even know, don't I don't know.

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Any time you have a receiver that comes out after

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the draft, after getting drafted, and the first thing he

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>says is before he say anything else, I'm breaking every

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker record.

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Y'all got that's it. But he didn't curse, But I'm

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 5>a curse for.

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<v Speaker 2>He just add a little season into it.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 5>HU are you coming in with that, with that type

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 5>of that type of moxie. That's what that's that's what

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 5>that's what. That's what the white Felk call they call

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 5>it Moxie.

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>The Lions defeated the Bears thirty four to seventeen, even

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.720
<v Speaker 1>with Don Montgomery who was sidelined with an mc l injury.

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 1>In Chicago, Gibbs finished with one hundred and fifty fourth scrimmageyard,

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and nine of those came on the ground

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and a touchdown, while having four receptions for forty five yards.

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Jered god finished today twenty three or thirty two three

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>thirty six, three touchdowns, zero interception. He also set a

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 1>career high fasting touchdowns in the season with thirty three

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>with two.

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Games to go.

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh Joe, you watched the Lions go on the road, Yeah,

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Soldier Field, Uh, and do what they want to do.

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 4>Who go out there and have fun? Take Motown, Take

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Motown to Chicago. They hit the temptation moves, celebrate, throwing

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 4>the all over the place, Jamison Williamson doing what Jamison

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 4>Williamson does, Amon Rob Saint Brown scoring, I don't know what.

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what kind of celebration that was in

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:09.760
<v Speaker 4>the goddamn.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, y'all the way to do it. You're gonna get

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 6>fined for it. And that was Jamir Gibbs right. He

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 6>was like doing a strip of dance or something on

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 6>the I don't know what they're doing right now.

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota. Minnesota got thing on lot right now. Minnesota they

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 1>got the course they got on listen.

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 4>Excuse me chat being ruled, Excuse me for being disrespectful.

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 4>Whoever the young the young bull is for the Minnesota

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 4>Bikings that did the celebration where he copied the lady

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 4>who did the freestyle.

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, it's the celebrations.

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know on your no young boy name, but

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that to me is one of the greatest celebrations of

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:51.399
<v Speaker 1>all time.

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 2>And they just hit the white old weeks ago.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>It didn't have the lady lad in today they do

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:03.240
<v Speaker 1>it and they had Aliab and everybody do it. Because

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you know the line, if we wanted to get it

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>a man, let us see it now. It's all about

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>its up. No if y'all, if you get it right,

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll let you participate. But uh, but Minnesota got the

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>dancing thing on lock right now. But I was very

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>pressed with Minnesota. They are Detroit. No I'm saying choreography,

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>but Detroit coach Campbell, it's okay to take a field goal, bro.

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>All these fours and threes. Man, come on, man, come on,

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>kick the field goal and go thirty seven seventeen.

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 2>It's okay. He on the score up.

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.919
<v Speaker 4>Man, he don't even he don't even see it. You know, Hey,

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.879
<v Speaker 4>Dan is playing bass to the wall. He's the He's

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 4>a visual representation of I don't.

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Give a fuck. I'm gonna do it my way. I'm

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna do it. I'm gonna listen. I don't know what

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 2>what's the word? What's the word? They say?

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 4>Uh not not Tennessees. Where at analytics. I don't care

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 4>what analytics say. I'm going against it.

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I like I like Dan. I know this player's got

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 2>to love him. Man playing Williams, Caleb Williams didn't play.

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 2>What'd you say? Don't yo? I was saying.

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Caleb Williams was twenty six and forty three thirty four,

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>two touchdowns.

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 2>He was sacked to U twice. Oh Joe, They just

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>got to do a better job.

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean the first four possession, Yeah, you plus two

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>fumbles and you're down because then they get going. But

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you've arobably you're not good enough to spot a team

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and to overcome that deficit. You're just not Keenan Allam

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 1>was sensation nine for bucks forty one a touchdown, wrong

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>do four for seventy seven. DJ Moore seven for sixty eight. Uh,

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>they didn't run the ball nearly enough. But you fall

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>behind like that, so basically you gotta throw that. You

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta throw the running game out the window. Uh. But

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but the golf when you run the ball like they do,

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>play action out bro if James the way you lining

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>up on your side.

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Safety Jonathan Noen's.

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>If your cornerback is playing outside leverage, so you know

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you got the gold ball cup. The only thing that

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>can hurt you if you get on the top of

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you at the post, you would get You better get

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>on your hand horse and get back. I don't know

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>what you're looking for, but he can run and you

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and and here's the thing, oh Joe, I want to

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>don't put hands on him, so you don't make him

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 1>check his feet.

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 2>So by his fourth step filth step, he's full speeding.

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>And so while you hey, you go back and look

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>at it when they show to all twenty two, when

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>not coachhen Stevenson opens up and he starts.

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Digging his step stop left foot of the dirt and

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the head to that post and all is look, it's open.

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's impossible that look at that point, if you're

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>not already gone, you got to you got to know

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>where to go.

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 2>You got to know where to go.

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Anticipation skills as the DV is, understanding what's in front

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 1>of you, who is in front of you?

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Got that. You got to know. You got to know

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 2>your competition. You got to.

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>If I'm on Tyreek's side, Tyrek, and I know the

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 1>cornerback and I know the corners opening up, and he

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>got he he's taking away his outside for the dope. Oh,

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>tyn't beat me to the post that he might run,

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>he might run the desert. So far on that upfield shoulder,

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>so far up. You will not beat me out of position, No, sir,

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:42.399
<v Speaker 1>not today. You you have to tell I don't think

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>guys do enough of studying and understand tendency, because there

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>are certain things I was not that letter got beat

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>me with. You're not gonna beat me with your strength.

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Now if you got a kind of move, because I'm

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna take away the initial move. If I'm in past protection,

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take away your initial move. If I know

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you try to get a feeling I'm gonna open up,

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna kick. But bro, they let these guys. You

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>know that guy runs four to three and you just like, actually, bro, no,

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not Keenan Allen. You practice against Keenan

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Allen is looking to shake your ass up. Jameson Williams,

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you're looking to take the top. Understand what you're up against,

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>who you're up against. You'll be just fine. But I

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 1>think these guys a lot of time, I was like

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>they just going out there and thinking, Okay, he'll wide receiver. No, bro,

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>some of these guys can really dig, and you better

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>understand that or you're gonna be smelling the odorant, Oh Joe.

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>The Falcons defeated the Giants thirty four to seven. Michael

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Pennick Junior gets his first win. It's only the second

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>time a Falcons quarterback had led a team to a

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 1>double digit win in his first NFL start since Matt

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Ryan did it in two thousand and eight. Pennick finished

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>eighteen or twenty seven for two oh two and an

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>interception that should.

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Have and caught Kyle Pits right in his head. Kyle

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Pitts threw it up in the air.

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So hey, yes it was against it was against the

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>two and thirteen Giants, but hey, it is what.

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Giants now start. It's a start. It's a start for

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 4>the quarterback. A win like today it builds confidence, It

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.240
<v Speaker 4>builds confidence. It's a good thing for the young fellow.

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 4>I know people on the outside looking at all. You

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 4>beat the Giants is nothing to hoop and holler about.

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 5>But still it's a team win. It's a good start

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 5>for brother Pennick Junr and his in his tenure as a.

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>As Atlanta Falcons quarterback. So wait, wait and who they

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>got next? Who they got next? Do they have a

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>test command this Sunday night? Whoa?

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.959
<v Speaker 2>Now you got a test? The Falcons had.

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Two picks sixes Jesse Bates got won Jesse bas third,

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>excuse me and edge rusher Matthew judaon. It's the first

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>time that the team has had two picks six is

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:52.879
<v Speaker 1>in one game since nineteen eighty three.

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 2>All landed right in his lap man. Uh yeah uh.

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 2>They ran the ball thirty times for Buck twenty eight.

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>They try to take a lot of pressure off of

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>off of Michael Pedis Junior by running the football, but

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>he made some great throws Uh, cow pits got to

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:09.919
<v Speaker 1>make that catch.

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if it's really that simple, O Joe, ain't no

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 2>else saying the bus about it.

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing when you complain. It's funny how

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 2>this worked. Oko.

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>When you complain about the ball, the ball find you

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 1>and then you drop it. It happens every time, all

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 5>See, I can sit here and be honest because it

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 5>happened to me.

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>It happened to me.

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.879
<v Speaker 4>I complained about the ball at halftime. I complained about

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<v Speaker 4>the ball in the third quarter and Carsons throw that

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<v Speaker 4>motherfucker to me, and guess.

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<v Speaker 3>What I do?

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<v Speaker 5>Drop it, throw it back at it because I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not locked in not seeing the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ball all the way in yep.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't touched it in a wild So I got

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<v Speaker 4>somewhat of a little attitude, you know about me. And

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<v Speaker 4>the one time I complained about the ball and it

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<v Speaker 4>does come, I drop it. And it happens every time,

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<v Speaker 4>every time.

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<v Speaker 2>But in situations like this, the game only gets bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a nice You got a nice You got

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<v Speaker 1>a nice victory under your belt against a team you

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to beat. You got an opportunity to relax

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<v Speaker 1>I got an opportunity to exhale. But now you know

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<v Speaker 1>the commander's got something to play for. You have something

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<v Speaker 1>to play for. They want to get Hey, look they're

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<v Speaker 1>already in the playoffs, but they want to try.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we want to try to get a home game.

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons. You have something to play for. You have a lead,

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<v Speaker 1>You have a half game lead over the Bucks in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC South. Win your division, you get at least

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<v Speaker 1>one home game, at least one.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Both teams have something to play for. We're gonna find

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot. We've seen Jane Daniels. We haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of Michael Penny Jr. Ojoe, but we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of Jade Daniels and he's been phenomenal

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks. Gonn to see if he can

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<v Speaker 1>continue to screak. Oh yeah, but for the j azz

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<v Speaker 1>of whose jazz a good terror?

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<v Speaker 4>The volume