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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Buried Church, Danny McCrae, and New East Scrugs. Here.

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Speaker 1: It is another edition of the Players Lounge as we

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Speaker 1: get ready to see if the Cowboys can defeat the

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Speaker 1: New York Football Jiants in their first NFC East contest

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Speaker 1: of the season. Now, it's interesting because a lot of

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Speaker 1: friends are frustrating. The Cowboys are one in three at

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Speaker 1: this point in time. But as we dive into this

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Speaker 1: show today, here are the players Los Brocky by Players

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Speaker 1: Hotels dot Com, Danny McCrae, Burry Church. We have a

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Speaker 1: firing in the National Football League. Bill O'Brien is no

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Speaker 1: longer the head coach and general manager of the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: So I'll start with you, mccraie, your thoughts about this move.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting a little echo, but uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, since since since that is the hometown, it's

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Speaker 1: about damn tie. They don't let this dude run the

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Speaker 1: team into this time and then they let him make

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Speaker 1: all these mistakes and then fire. You give them away,

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Speaker 1: all your draft picks for the next year, all all

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Speaker 1: the all the really really important ones. You trade away

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Speaker 1: your best weapon, and then you're not even there anymore.

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Speaker 1: Like this is that it's too late for them to

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Speaker 1: do it. But I'm glad he's out of there. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of feel sorry for the guy

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Speaker 1: work with DeShawn Watson. But you know, it's time for

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Speaker 1: some new blood up there. So I think you'd a

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Speaker 1: good job of getting rid of them, getting rid of

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Speaker 1: them now, yeah, Age Town, Huh, I mean you right,

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Speaker 1: You hit it right on the right, on the right,

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Speaker 1: on the nail man. I mean, it was it was

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Speaker 1: about time this dude got fired. Um. I heard a

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Speaker 1: great quote today. It was it said, um, the GM

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien got the head coach Bill O'Brien fired, And

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that's exactly right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you just noted all the moves he made, all those

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Speaker 1: offseason moves he pade that pretty much accomplished nothing, and

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Speaker 1: it made the team a heck of a lot worse.

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Speaker 1: And that's why you see, you know, teams don't have

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Speaker 1: usually had the coach running everything like that because I

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's a multiple job and you and you

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Speaker 1: gotta stay focused on your players, and if you're the GM,

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Speaker 1: you're always looking for more talent. So I mean it

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Speaker 1: was a contradiction, and uh, it kind of costs him

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Speaker 1: his job. I feel like, I mean, you hit the

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Speaker 1: draft picks that they all got for Laramie Tu so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, where has that shown? And then you went

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Speaker 1: and you traded DeAndre Hokins, who's alreadly a top three

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Speaker 1: receiver in the game, and you traded them for I

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Speaker 1: and I mean no one's saying he's a top run

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Speaker 1: got the man fired. And like Danny said, it's about time.

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Speaker 1: When I look at Bill O'Brien by the Newes, Scrudge

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Speaker 1: got to say my name here as we start the

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Speaker 1: players As podcast by Hotel dot Com. When ID at

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Speaker 1: what Bill O'Brien was doing, I say to myself, well,

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Speaker 1: this guy wants to be a college football coach, because

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Speaker 1: the college football coach answers to no one. All right,

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Speaker 1: he coaches the players, he recruits the players, he has

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Speaker 1: full old time and most time athletic director just shakes

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Speaker 1: his head at whatever the you know, the head coach one.

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Speaker 1: So to me, Bill O'Brien's got to ask himself, do

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Speaker 1: you want to go back to a place like Penn

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League? Because if he coaches again,

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Speaker 1: he will have to get along with the general manager

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Speaker 1: and he ranked Rick Smith. And Rick Smith is a guy,

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Speaker 1: by the way who went out and made the trade

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson, the quarterback bringing Brian game. He runs

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. These are coaches who have general managers that

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Speaker 1: how much you like DeAndre Hopkins. DeAndre Hopkins makes plays.

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Speaker 1: when they had dudes like Ryan Fitzpatrick back there and

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Speaker 1: Brock Oswality. This guy was making a Pro Bowl with

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Speaker 1: those dudes as the quarterback. And you get rid of him,

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Speaker 1: and then you try to lie and say, well, you

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Speaker 1: know what, he wanted to get paid, so you know

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Speaker 1: we had to let him go. It's wide receiver, man,

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Speaker 1: stop this something, acting like he was trying to get

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Speaker 1: a Deshaun Watson contract. Bill O'Brien didn't get over the play,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's a mistake. I thought Bill Parcels had

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Speaker 1: a great line. Was Bill Bell was telling the story

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Speaker 1: that when he was Bill was the Bill Belchick was

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Speaker 1: meeting and Lawrence Taylor late for the meeting, and he

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Speaker 1: LT was late for a meeting, and Parcel said to him,

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Speaker 1: should have started the meeting later, because parcels knew LT

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Speaker 1: no circumstances am I sitting Lawrence Taylor or Benson Lawrence Taylor,

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Speaker 1: because Lawrence Taylor was the most dominating defensive player that

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Speaker 1: I know I've ever seen. But this is a guy,

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, like so many of these dudes who come

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Speaker 1: O'Brien truly proved that he wasn't. And I give cal

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Speaker 1: And I thought Houston made a right move when you

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Speaker 1: and you're you're getting You're taking things personal, and then

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Speaker 1: they couldn't wait for Bill O'Brien to get out of here.

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Speaker 1: so are you saying that's how the players feel about Nolan?

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Speaker 1: You know, no effort whoa, whoa, I'll just shake it's cowboys.

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Speaker 1: The descriptions, the description sounded really similar to what we saw.

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Speaker 1: I love how you starting to understand this whole thing

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Speaker 1: to slide it right on into Mike Nolan to simply say,

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Speaker 1: stoling with him. They are boys. Okay, he's going to

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Speaker 1: stop it, to stop that whole. So we're saying, no

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Speaker 1: matter what, no matter if we get drummed by another

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Speaker 1: how this whole coaching thing works. Okay, how coaches work.

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Speaker 1: So let's say it continues to be bad, well, then

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Speaker 1: So I'm expecting Anthony Brown to be up and ready

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Speaker 1: another head scratching move man. All right, so I will

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Speaker 1: put my Mickey's Bagnola had away since you guys just

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Speaker 1: shot Yeah, alright, let's let's move on over to the

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Speaker 1: other side of the football. Joe Looney, the Cowboys starting center,

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Speaker 1: is out with a knee injury. It's mcl so rookie

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Speaker 1: Tyler Piadis takes over. Kellen Moore, Mike McCarthy, have they are?

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Speaker 1: They've got no issues with him. Who's the kids played

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three snaps. This is a guy

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Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy had high praise for that he watched

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Speaker 1: when he was at Wisconsin. So your thoughts church on

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Speaker 1: Joe Looney being out right now and now a rookie

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Speaker 1: taking over having to make the calls for this Cowboys team. Look,

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Speaker 1: you know, if this will you know, if this was

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Speaker 1: Travis Frederick or something going down and we had you know,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Biadas coming in for him, I'd be a little

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Speaker 1: bit worried. I'm nothing against you know, Joe Looney because

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Speaker 1: I think he's a heck of a player, but I

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Speaker 1: think he's more situated in that backup role and that

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Speaker 1: swing offensive lineman role, like if somebody goes down, he

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Speaker 1: can come in and give you quality reps. But you

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Speaker 1: know this, Tyler biadis got it, got it in the

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Speaker 1: fourth round. He had an impressive camp and he looked

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Speaker 1: he looked pretty impressive when he filled in. Um I

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Speaker 1: believe he came in in that Seattle game and he

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Speaker 1: looked pretty impressive. I thought he was going to get

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Speaker 1: to start heading into this Cleveland game, but they had

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Speaker 1: given it to Joe Looney. So for me, I don't

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Speaker 1: see this as a huge a huge injury, especially with

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Speaker 1: this offensive line as patchbrook as it's been. I think

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Speaker 1: Biada should be able to get in there and pretty

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Speaker 1: much hold down the fourth So hopefully, you know, Joe

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Speaker 1: lene will get healthy and then he'll just be another

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Speaker 1: added depth piece for this offensive line. But I think

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Speaker 1: the fourth round should should be pretty good out there

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Speaker 1: at center. Yes, same here, I'm not really worried. This

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Speaker 1: may sound crazy, but with everything that's going on with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I think the one unit that we've really

462
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: expected to just be total, total horrible, just based on

463
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Speaker 1: the injuries that happened. Is the old line, and somehow

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Speaker 1: they've been able to kind of hold it together, you know,

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Speaker 1: minus you know, the coach is not not helping them

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Speaker 1: out when they when they're going against a Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: you know, have on a rookie. Minus that these guys

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Speaker 1: have held up. You know, Deck's back there throwing a

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Speaker 1: sixty times. He's not getting sacked the crazy amount of times.

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Speaker 1: He's not just you know, under pressure like crazy. He's

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Speaker 1: able to complete his throws and follow through. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not really worried. I think I think they have a

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Speaker 1: you know, a good thing going on the old line.

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Speaker 1: They're able to mix and match and have those guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, create some production. I did ask Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: about that yesterday, and it was I was the first

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Speaker 1: person on the call, and I just said, okay, can

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Speaker 1: you explain was Terrence Steel supposed to get some help

479
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Speaker 1: on those two Miles Garrett sacks or did you guys

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Speaker 1: leave him out there by himself? And if so, why

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Speaker 1: did you leave a rookie out there against a high,

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Speaker 1: highly productive defend to Ben, and He's like, oh, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: we're going right there. Humh. And then he gave a

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Speaker 1: flint flam answer, and I'm just seeing to myself, Yeah, Kellen,

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Speaker 1: I'm going right there because I'd like to know what

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Speaker 1: exactly are you guys doing? And I kept, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm dude, it makes me so mad as I read

488
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Speaker 1: people say all these negative things about Terrence Steal. Oh

489
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Speaker 1: he's bad, he sucks, he's this, he's I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 1: This is an undrafted rookie the Cowboys put him out here. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking this guy comes to camp, he's

492
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Speaker 1: just hoping to make the team, expecting to go play,

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Speaker 1: and he's not expecting to go play against Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: and they give him no help. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: criminal Brian Baldinger, and whenever he does his Baldi's, he

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Speaker 1: does a great Baldi's breakdowns. He's breaking the play down

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Speaker 1: and he's looking at hey, man, they're not giving this

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Speaker 1: guy any help. This is coaching moutheastons. Okay, that's what

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and Mike McCarthy committed against Terrence Steele. But

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Speaker 1: the fan looks at the player just says, oh, this

501
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Speaker 1: guy's bologne. He stinks. This isn't on the player, the

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00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: guy that the Cowboys had last year and Cam Fleming.

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Speaker 1: Cam Fleming started a Super Bowl for the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: But you know what they did with that guy. They

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Speaker 1: gave him help throughout the year because they knew he

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Speaker 1: was limited. That's what good coaches do. They cover up

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Speaker 1: the wards. They didn't cover up awards for that kid,

508
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: and they benched him, And I thought that was bad

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Speaker 1: on the coaches. Yeah, what did Keller Moore? What did

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Speaker 1: he mean by we're going straight there? I mean, what

511
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Speaker 1: did you expect. He's the offensive coordinator and he's talking

512
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Speaker 1: about all we're just gonna go straight there. Hunt, you

513
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Speaker 1: left an undrafted rookie and his fourth career NFL start

514
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Speaker 1: out there. But Booty naked against arguably one of the

515
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Speaker 1: best prolific pass rushers in the NFL right now. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if if I'm Dak Prescott, I'm like, man, what are

517
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Speaker 1: y'all thinking out there? I mean, Keller Moore like I

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Speaker 1: once again, we need to have a segment called head

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Speaker 1: Scratching Tuesdays or head Scratching Wednesdays. I'm sure it would

520
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Speaker 1: be jam packed with these coaching decisions. Because this is

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Speaker 1: just another one along the lines of how are you

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Speaker 1: just gonna ain't just gonna put it all on and

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Speaker 1: then bench him like, man, he's the reason this is

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00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: going on. Nah, Man, you gotta help the brother out.

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00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: He's out there, is starving for help, and y'all just

526
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: gonna let him get fed to the vultures. Man, I mean,

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00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: it was just disrespectful and wrong that it was wrong.

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00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: It's horrible. Man. Look, we're gonna continue to say it.

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00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: Start the game off by giving these guys help to

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Speaker 1: boost up their confidence. You're right, you know he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have experience, So the best way you could do that

532
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: is to give him some help. Let him see that

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Speaker 1: he can get out there and actually make a play

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00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: against Miles Garrett with a little bit of help, give

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00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: him some confidence, and I think he'll play a lot better.

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00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: But you put him out there on the olive by

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00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: himself at the beginning. He's worried, he's a little nervous,

538
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: he knows who in front of him, and he gets

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00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: beat and then that just that just like snowballs all

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00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: the way throughout the entire game. So you know, I

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00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to make those changes but you know,

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00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: I will keep saying it. I look at a guy

543
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: like Kyle Shanahan, the head coach of the forty nine Ers,

544
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: who I think does an excellent job of covering up

545
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Speaker 1: the wards of his team, And he had two games

546
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: last year where he lost his starting tackles. They won

547
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: those football games. He helped cover it up. Whether you

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00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: do a quick passing game or whether you tell your

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00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, hey, you know you got you gotta

550
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: get the ball out of your hands, quicker, because our

551
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: guys aren't going to be able to give you that

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00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: extra second that maybe you're used to. And even for

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00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott on that second player where the strip sack came,

554
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: he's got to get rid of that ball, Quicker. You

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00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: gotta know the clock is going to be because you've

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00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: already seen Miles get to you once, so you already

557
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: know on this one, on this one on one protection

558
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: out here, chances of this dude getting beat or strong.

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Speaker 1: And I just think the way they did that kid,

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Speaker 1: I just thought that was I thought that was embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was embarrassing to the player. When it's

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Speaker 1: not on the player, it's on the coaches the same.

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Speaker 1: We go back to the whole thing with Chaz Green

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. You bench Chads Green. You're bringing Byron Bell

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Speaker 1: and you're leaving him out here one on one two

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Speaker 1: and Adrian Klaiborn ran around him, and I'm thinking to myself,

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00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: Byron Bell was the backup for a reason to Chaz Green,

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00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: because you thought Chads Green was better, So you thought

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Speaker 1: that was a solution. The solution is that you've got

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Speaker 1: to go out here and give these guys help. They're

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Speaker 1: not um. He was here, he was Kellen was Yes,

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Speaker 1: Kellen was here. And I don't know if he was

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Speaker 1: a player or a coach then, because he went straight

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Speaker 1: from being a player to a coach. But he was

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Speaker 1: a part of the organization. But it was just absolutely awful.

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Speaker 1: And there's something that they've got. They've got to be

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Speaker 1: better at that. And maybe that's another question I'll ask

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy later on it, say why why did you

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00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: bench Arren Steel? What was the reasoning there? Because you

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00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: put the guy out here so obviously you thought he

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Speaker 1: better than He's put him out the right tackle. But

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Speaker 1: oh well, Jalen Smith is catching some heat. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what Jerry Jones had to say about that, what

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00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan had to say it, and also Jalen Smith

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Speaker 1: spoke about the goals that he has this year. So

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Speaker 1: let's dive into the Cowboys linebacker who, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: is taking a little bit too much heat. Next right

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Speaker 1: members that are just pouring it on Jalen. Charles Robinson

637
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: of Yahoo's Sports he was on Jayalen a couple of

638
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Michael Gelket of the Dallas Morning News jumping

639
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: on Jalen last week and yesterday side yusef of the

640
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: Athletic was given it to Jalen and Mike Nolan ended

641
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: up defending him. Let me read you a little bit

642
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: of what Mike Nolan says. Shit quote. I don't know

643
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: why Jaalen takes the criticism he does. He's a good

644
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: football player. Jerry Jones was asked about Jaylen Smith today

645
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: on his radio show I'm One to five three, the

646
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: fan and the Cowboys Hall of Fame owner says quote,

647
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: I think Jayalen Smith has been courageous in his performance.

648
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: He gives you everything. Jalen Smith signed a five year,

649
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: sixty four million dollars deal with thirty five point five

650
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: million dollars guarantee averages eleven million dollars a year. Fellas,

651
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting up here defending Jays can say that

652
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: this guy has been some great player. But I don't

653
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: understand how Jalen Smith gets all this heat and the

654
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: guy who signed the large contract in Cowboys history, people

655
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: don't say anything about on Twitter on Facebook, people like, well,

656
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: he's always doing that swiping thing and he just cares

657
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: about his brand. And I come back and I say,

658
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: who's out here making hot boys? Gear. Who's out here

659
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: feuding with the forty nine ers about the hot Boys name,

660
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: trying to trademarket and bringing lawyers involved. It's Tank Lawrence.

661
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: So why does Jalen get the heat that Tank Lawrence

662
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: doesn't get? Why does why? Why is there no heat

663
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: for a cheetah woozier or second round pick who has

664
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: been just a guy? Why is there no heat for

665
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, a second round pick who last year wasn't

666
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: even in games at times because he was a man

667
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: at his doghouse and you watch him play this year,

668
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: he's invisible? Why is everything on Jalen as though he

669
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: is the reason the Cowboys defense is no good? Mccraig,

670
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: help me out. Listen, man, Look, the fans, they're gonna

671
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: pick somebody. They liked Tank. They like the way Tank talks,

672
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: They like the you know that he tells it like

673
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: it is, the way he talks to the media, the

674
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: way he talks to other teams and their players. They

675
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: enjoy that. So you know he's a fan favorite, So

676
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna take it easy on him. Jalen,

677
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: he's not so much of a fan favorite. And some

678
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: of the stuff that he does is a little bit

679
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: more obvious, Like you know, the Marcus Lawrence doesn't get

680
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: sacks all right, when then some of the stuff you

681
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: see Jalen do, you know, giving up touchdowns of the

682
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: passing game, over running, over pursuing, and you know, get

683
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: getting blocked by by the old line. It's just a

684
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: little bit more obvious. So they just look at him,

685
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit more. And then once they

686
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: see one thing, and once one fan says one thing

687
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: about him, then it just catches fire. So he's just

688
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: he's just sit in that spot. And that's part of

689
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: playing for the Dallas Cowboys. Man, the odds are on you.

690
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: So you just got to be able to deal with that. Yeah,

691
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: I mean you're right about the fan favorite part. I

692
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: mean the fan they must love how he speaks and

693
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff because they haven't really been giving them

694
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: all that noise. But for me, it just comes down

695
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: and there's more opportunities for you to see Jalen Smith

696
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: mess up. I mean, like you said, you'll see him

697
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: rush the pasture and then he might be giving off blocks.

698
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: But with Jayalen Smith's like he missed a tackle, it's

699
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: right in the it's right in the view it's right

700
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: on the television. They rewind it for you about five

701
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: or six times, so it's just more of an opportunity

702
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: for him to mess up, you know, missing tackles or

703
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: if he blows a coverage. It just looks like it's

704
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: more on him. But for me, both of these guys,

705
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, deserve credit of how we're doing this so far.

706
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you get the guy twenty million dollars and

707
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: you know he's yet to sniff a sack. So for me,

708
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, they both deserve blame. I would put more

709
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: on the markets Longships because his price tag is so

710
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: much higher and the expectations for him and both Jalen

711
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: Smith are extremely high. So I think that's why they're

712
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: both getting all the blame here. You ain't gonna see

713
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: too much about the Woozier or you're not gonna see

714
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: too much about Tristan Hill, just because they're still on

715
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: their rookie contracts and with that comes lower expectations. So

716
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: for me, it's just has to deal with the expectations

717
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: for both of them, and they're gonna get you know,

718
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: the lion's share of the blame. It's just happened to

719
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: be that for Jalen Smith. You know, he's in the spotlight.

720
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: He's you know, the cameras are always follow him because

721
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: he's always literally around the ball, whether it be good

722
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: or be bad. So for me, it just comes down

723
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: and he has more opportunities to mess up and be

724
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: put on screen and put on blast. Yeah. I went

725
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: and looked at you know, the Cowboys draft picks since

726
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: since tank Lords in the second round. Okay, And when

727
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at their second round picks

728
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: and just said, okay, when I think about second round

729
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: grade and what the players turned out to beat so far, Um,

730
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: I look at Jansen, said, you know, he's probably the

731
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: best one they've had. So let me ask this who's

732
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: been a better second round pick in their Cowboy career?

733
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: Carter Williams or Jalen Smith. I gotta go Jalen Smith

734
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: on this one, Danny, I'm gonna go Jalen Smith. I mean, okay, yeah, yeah,

735
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: I go Jayald Smith, Cheetah Woosier or Jalen Smith. I

736
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: go Jeally Smith again, I go Jally Smith. I'm gonna listen,

737
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Jaylen Smith. But I'm not gonna say

738
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: that jeal Smith played great um. But yeah, I'm gonna

739
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: go Jayala Smith. I don't don't. I don't think that's

740
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: much of it. Okay, Okay, Tristan Hill or Jaylen Smith,

741
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: my man just now sniffing the field that you know,

742
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: he didn't even right do fall to sleeping meetings and

743
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: didn't even he couldn't even get on the field last year.

744
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: So it's Jayala Smith over there. Uh. And Stefan Dick's

745
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: just I mean, Trayvon Dick, Steffond's little brother. He just

746
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: got here. So when I just start looking at these

747
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: second round picks that the Cowboys have had, I mean,

748
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith is a guy who made the Pro Bowl

749
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: as an alternate um and look that gave a second

750
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: contract here. But when I you know, either the Cowboys

751
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: got some other issues here with these second round picks.

752
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: But this dude is not the devil that is absolutely

753
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: killing you the way everybody puts it out there. Is

754
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: he having a season that's good? New but it's anybody

755
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: on that defense having a season that is good. Nope. No,

756
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to understand why

757
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: everybody's put the X on this guy, Like, yeah, man,

758
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: you are the problem. Uh No, he's a part of it.

759
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: There's no doubt he's a part of the problem. But

760
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: fans somehow thinking that this dude is the problem. I

761
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: gotta say, I just don't believe it, Fellas, I just

762
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: don't believe it. I just don't get the guy. Yeah.

763
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I had a quick question. Man, I understanding Jelly Smith

764
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but where the hell has Tying

765
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: Crawford been? I mean, is he injured? I don't. I mean,

766
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: that's my dog and everything, But man, hold on, now

767
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: you talk about we talk about contrast in highway robbery. Now,

768
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: I mean has he been on the field. I mean,

769
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: I talk about Answa Woods talking about poem. He's supposed

770
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: to be in there too. He's supposed to be in

771
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: that rotation. And I mean, I doctor, that just blows

772
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: on Church. What's going on? Church? Church? The worst the

773
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: worst part about this is last year I said on

774
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: this on this, on this show, and I talked about, how,

775
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: you know, with with Crawford coming back, the leader ship

776
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: in the locker room was gonna be a little different.

777
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: So you should expect to see, you know, something different there,

778
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: and it's been been. It's not been that it's been

779
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: the opposite. So you know, I was wrong. I was wrong,

780
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go ahead in the myth that because

781
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: I don't understand I want to do this. I want

782
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to our best defensive player

783
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: who was released. Uh you know before the start of

784
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: the season, had been brought back on the on the

785
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: team uh C J Good When I first go first

786
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: guest on the show. He has been the spotlight for

787
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: for people who play defense on there. If you watch

788
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: special teams, he's been making almost every play. He was

789
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: all size on that one block kick, but he's making

790
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: all the plays and he plays defense. So I'm gonna

791
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that he's our best defensive player. Hey,

792
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: and and actually over Alden Smith, I'll say no. I'll say, okay, okay, okay,

793
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: I get okay, okay, okay, okay, my my, my bad.

794
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: But all the Smith didn't recover the kick against Atlanta

795
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: and you know and help us win the game. But

796
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you. All the Smith has

797
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: played played better on defense. I'll over so. So today,

798
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: just thinking about Jayalen's fifth and all the heat he's getting,

799
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: it just reminded me of another guy that fans rode

800
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: into the ground and I lacked that. I said, how

801
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: many folks I like to apologize to Jeff Heath right

802
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: about now who hated on you know, good get him

803
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: out the field? Well, you love to have Jeff Heath

804
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: on the field right about now. You might even trade

805
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: a draft pick to go get Jeff Heath back here.

806
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: And it just, you know, it just goes to me

807
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: that this thing of people start focusing on one particular

808
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: player here on this defense is though, this guy is

809
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: the whole problem, when what have we seen in the

810
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: past few years. It's a collective problem here. This isn't

811
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: one guy. It's not as though, hey, if Layton vander

812
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: esh got back here, everything's all fixed. No, No, it's

813
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: really bigger than that. Um. A lot of guys aren't

814
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do. But for some reason,

815
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: people of people are looking at Jalen and saying you're

816
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: the issue and you're the problem. And then other guy

817
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: who aren't doing their part in this thing aren't catching

818
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: the heat either. Ezekiel Elliott, Okay, you signed a contract

819
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: as the highest paid running back in the league. What

820
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: do you do? You fumble and then they get the ball,

821
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland go right down the field, score touchdown. He's already

822
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: had several fumbles this year. Ezekiel Elliott has not been

823
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: as good as that contract he signed. And if we

824
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: start breaking this thing down, if you look at people saying, hey,

825
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: who's performing up to the contract, Jalen is not, Ezekiel's not,

826
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Tank Lawrence is not. Yeah, we got several guys who've

827
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: been paid and gotten those second contracts and you just say, man,

828
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: where's a production at what are you doing? And it's

829
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: a problem. But I just find it. I've always find

830
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: it interesting on who we choose to condemn and who

831
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: we choose to forgive and give passage too. And on

832
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: this defense, you're right, Tyrone Crawford's another guy who's gotten

833
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: a big contract. Where are you at, you know, do something?

834
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: And that's that's a problem, is your your big money

835
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: players are not playing like money players. The only guy

836
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: right now that I can say is living up to

837
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: their their their end seeming leaves Dak Prescott. But even

838
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott has got some Zach Mark. Yeah you know what, Bingo,

839
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: Zak Martin. Yes, yes, the Hall of Famer, the Hall

840
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: of Famer, But but but, but too many guys, too

841
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: many of the big money guys are not doing their thing,

842
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: and it ends up and it ends up hurting you. Um,

843
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: that's a problem and it had to me. Look call

844
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: out Jalen Smith. Fun, fun, but make sure there's other

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Speaker 1: people that are getting called out as well, because this

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Speaker 1: is a whole collective thing where the cowboys are not

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Speaker 1: getting in return on their money. I mean, Danny, how

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Speaker 1: many times have you talked about Amari Cooper and what

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Speaker 1: you wish you got more out of from a guy

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Speaker 1: making one hundred million dollars? Has he put form? Who's

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Speaker 1: our million dollars in your opinionship, who's our best receiver?

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Speaker 1: Right now? Who? Who would you say is our best receiver?

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Speaker 1: The rookie I'm calling the rookie. The rookie. I'm calling

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Speaker 1: Cede A. Lamb Ceedee Lamb has been our most productive

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Speaker 1: and best receiver. He gets he's more involved in all

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Speaker 1: the players. He running jet sweeps, he's running deep routes,

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Speaker 1: he's running sharp routes, he's doing everything. Yeah, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. You pay you pay it got twenty

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Speaker 1: million dollars and he's not even the best receiver. On

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Speaker 1: the team so far the first quarter of the season

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Speaker 1: does not make any sense. I said the same thing

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Speaker 1: about z Yeah Zeke fumble. Our play calling is not

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Speaker 1: helping Zeke be the dominant player that he is. It's

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Speaker 1: ironic that just this year is his first unproductive year.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't had a year like this since he's been

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Speaker 1: it's like, damn, where is Zeke This? This has a

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Speaker 1: lot to do with our coaching and our play caller,

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Speaker 1: and and it's hurting him. He gotta fix the fumbles.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta, you gotta, you gotta feed him like

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Speaker 1: he's been been fair, you know, for his entire career,

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Speaker 1: to get that production out of him, because one thing

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Speaker 1: you know is if you give him the ball, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna produce. Hadn't happened at the quarter mark the quarter

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Speaker 1: at the quartermark of the season, I think all of

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Speaker 1: us can say we have been underwhelmed by the coaching,

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Speaker 1: and we've been underwhelmed by the productivity from the talent

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Speaker 1: of what we were told and led to believe was

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Speaker 1: going to be a good football team. All right, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: let's dive more into the Giants, the return of Jason

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Speaker 1: that are and uh Derek Dooley. These guys are all

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Speaker 1: coaching with the New York Football Giants. Giants come into

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Speaker 1: town at oh and four. Gotta kind of win this one,

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Speaker 1: gotta witness one. So we've got a lot more to

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Speaker 1: get to. We always try to tell it to you

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Speaker 1: like it is here on the Players Land. So for

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