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Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot going on with this recording today. We are

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of running around stressed. I've just come from

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Speaker 2: the most stressful brunch of my entire life. But we

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Speaker 2: It's Alex Songshaw. Alex. Welcome to. I said no gifts.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Richard, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm sorry to bring this energy. This you've

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Speaker 3: That's okay. I can kind of tell your stress, mostly

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Speaker 2: Oh that's good to Yeah, that's very good to know.

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Speaker 2: It's Sunday afternoon as we record this. How's your Sunday morning, Ben?

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Speaker 3: It's going well. This is the first thing I'm doing today.

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Speaker 2: Oh beautiful.

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Speaker 3: This morning, I just did my dishes. So I'm impressed

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Speaker 2: I had a really uncomfortable morning, hours of discomfort. A

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Speaker 2: I should have put my foot down, but I thought,

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Speaker 2: relinquished control. Let someone else suggest the rest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So you went with the friend who recommended it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and another friend and my boyfriend, and it went

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Speaker 2: It was just a weird atmosphere. This restaurant I'm so

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Speaker 2: I'd never seen this person in my life, I mean

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Speaker 2: That's confusing for a brunch situation. It set the scene

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it almost sounds like she's like out of

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Speaker 2: Did you ever have a like a an enemy customer

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. There is a place I am

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Like, I worked as a runner at a restaurant

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Speaker 3: Yes. And then you also couldn't auction off the food.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been to a restaurant that nice.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love these dynamics, these things that

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Speaker 3: I think what felt bad about like there were definitely

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Speaker 2: Right, that's nice.

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Speaker 3: I would leave it at runner to take on a

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Speaker 3: prestigious minimum wage internship is what I left that job for.

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Speaker 2: Where did you intern?

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Speaker 3: Oh? But yeah, just in the design department.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I liked it a lot. It's like the same

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Speaker 2: They're all one and fifty.

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Speaker 3: Hundred years old. Yeah, oh, sorry, one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 3: I just keep it. I just keep all of it.

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Speaker 3: I guess I'm an email hoarder. I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: And this is such a visual picture for everyone. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But the delete of anything important never really happens. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so archiving seemed like a way it just

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I do need them to remain unread, otherwise I

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Speaker 3: Well, it depends on I have a lot of I have.

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Speaker 2: It's a you know, a problem for the people in

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Speaker 2: I mean when I open my if I return to

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00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 2: my phone and a text thread has blown up past,

441
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: I would say fifteen texts. Yah, full ignore. I'm not

442
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: looking through that. Okay, they could be planning my death.

443
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 2: I don't care. I will not look at the details.

444
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 2: It's overwhelming for me, and I can't like what am I?

445
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 2: It's not for me?

446
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I there's certain groups where I will well just

447
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: ignore the whole thing, and then other ones where maybe

448
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 3: I'm terrorizing them by like, oh, I finally get to

449
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 3: it at like past midnight, and then I'm reading all

450
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 3: of them and reacting to them me. So I'm like, Okay,

451
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: you sent all these notifications, You're going to wake up

452
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: to no new text messages. But somehow the notification says sixteen.

453
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: The conversation is long over, but Alex has feelings about it,

454
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: giving thumbs up parts this sort of thing. Well, I mean,

455
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: speaking of terrorizing people. Okay, you agreed to be on

456
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: this podcast just a little while ago. I never know

457
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: anymore when someone agrees to be on the podcast, it

458
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: doesn't really.

459
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: And I will say, honor of my life. I'm really

460
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: excited to be here.

461
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: Well, I'm so thrilled to have you. I mean, I

462
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: was thrilled to have you here. I was thinking, Alex

463
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: will come by, we'll have such a great time, the

464
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: weather isn't too hot, and we'll move on with our Sundays.

465
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: And so I have to say I was a little

466
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: surprised The podcast is called I said No Gifts, which

467
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: is in the emails. It's in all correspondents related to

468
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: this podcast, which you agreed to be on. It's out

469
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: there for public consumption. So I was a little surprised

470
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: when you came to my home. I said no gifts, HQ,

471
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 2: and walking up the driveway, I see you're holding a bag.

472
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'm nervous to even bring this up. Sure,

473
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: is this a gift for me? It's yes, okay.

474
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 3: But I will say it's also I'm running my errands today.

475
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: Oh okay. Oh, I'm just another one of your errands.

476
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm in the same category as mom and best friend.

477
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Everything in my life is an obligation. Nothing is joyful.

478
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to survive another day without getting in trouble.

479
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 3: And it seems like I'm in trouble right now. And

480
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: so in my defense, it was a pretty big bag

481
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 3: that I walked up your driveway, but it's this is

482
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 3: the only bag that I'm carrying today. So one of

483
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: the things is just a thing I'm returning to a

484
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: store that is near York.

485
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: Oh. I'm good for you for putting it in the

486
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: official bag. I'm the sort of person when returning an item,

487
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 2: will throw it in any old bag, okay, and then

488
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: it becomes a suspicious transaction, yeah, where they're like, this

489
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: looks like it's from another store.

490
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Okay, But.

491
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: I mean we can bag. I think we can say

492
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: the name of this company, Big Bud Press.

493
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: Yes we've avoided any restaurant names. But yeah, it's a

494
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: great company, great company.

495
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 2: And I don't think that you. I mean, they have

496
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: their own line of items, so I don't think there

497
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: could be any confusion there bag wise, item wise. You're

498
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: not going to show up there with a you know,

499
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: I can't name a single brand name. What's a brand

500
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: of clothing American apair, American apparel, perfect top and try

501
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: to return it to them. You're not going to bring

502
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: your Tommy Hill Figure jeans brand, excellent brand. We all

503
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: love them. Yeah, I love the hill Figures.

504
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 3: I am. Okay, So so I brought, I brought gifts.

505
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 3: But it's really you're helping me out if that helps

506
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: it all as a reframing of this is a bag

507
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: of things I'm getting rid of today, and.

508
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 2: So I'm on the dumping tour.

509
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, and okay, now I guess that's even ruder than

510
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: if I had just admitted that I brought you a gift.

511
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: This is your traveling podcast. Your home is a dump?

512
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, well should we get into it here?

513
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: Sure?

514
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as Alex has described, it isn't a

515
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: large brown bag from the Big bud Press store with

516
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: is the item you're returning in here? Currently?

517
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: It is?

518
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: Well we should talk about the heuse.

519
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: Okay, as is my wallet because I wanted to prove

520
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 3: to you that this is my bag for today.

521
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: So this could It looks like I'm gonna have to

522
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: parse through whatever is happening here to find out what

523
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: actually has been brought to the podcast. So there is

524
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: a wallet. I'm going to touch your wallet.

525
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: Excellent wallet, thank you Christmas gift from my mind.

526
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: I assume this yellow pant is on its way to

527
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 2: Big bud Press.

528
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm debating whether to exchange or to return right

529
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: as a saffron?

530
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: Ooh, I mean, will you describe that as a saffron?

531
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 6: Yes?

532
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 3: So I went with a friend the other day to

533
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: pick out a pant, and she also knew way more

534
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: color names than I'm interesting.

535
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean, there are too many color names.

536
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I thought this was like a mustard.

537
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: Yellow, but this could be a mustard.

538
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: I think I didn't know what saffron was, so now

539
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: i'll call it.

540
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: Safro saffron afternoon sunset. Afternoon sunset doesn't make logical sense.

541
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: It's a winter winter sunset. That's interesting. Okay. So the

542
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: pants look great. I mean, I haven't seen you wear them,

543
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: so maybe it's not like it doesn't work with your style.

544
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: I can't say.

545
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 3: I tried to go really oversized, just try to look

546
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: like a skater.

547
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: But i'd circa nineteen ninety nine.

548
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I think I can't pull it off

549
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: very well. So I'm gonna go one size small, more fitting.

550
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I like a fitted clothing. Yeah yeah, okay.

551
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: Then there's a button that says be nice to me.

552
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: Oh, you could have that if you want.

553
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: I'm not looking. I'm not. That is not what I'm

554
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: currently doing. I'm not looking for things any of this.

555
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm just I mean, I've been given a bag to investigate,

556
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, why not?

557
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, So the story behind this button was it

558
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: came with the pants or they had They had all

559
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: these buttons there, right, and my friend was looking at

560
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: them and complimenting them and the store employees were like,

561
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: you can take those, they're free.

562
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: They give away buttons.

563
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: I guess so. And then my friend handed me this

564
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: one that says be nice to me, and my gut reaction,

565
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: without having any thought, was oh, I don't deserve that.

566
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 3: And there were maybe like three or four store employees

567
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: closing down the store and my friend and everyone reacted

568
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: with such horror that this person in front of them.

569
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: Just doesn't think they deserve any level of respect.

570
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: It's just admitted a level of self worth that was

571
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: so shocking that they forced me to take this out.

572
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: And now you have to go back and face those people.

573
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: They won't remember.

574
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: Oh well, let's see again. Oh no, look at this,

575
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: you're a memorable person. They're probably going to welcome you

576
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: with open hall.

577
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: Oh that person who couldn't take.

578
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: It be nice to me, But I could have used

579
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: that at brunch this morning.

580
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, okay, Well so maybe by the end we'll

581
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: see who deserves over it.

582
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: This is gonna end in violence. I feel like that.

583
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: Part wasn't technically part. I do have a part that

584
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: is a gift to you.

585
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: The there is another bag within the bag, and I

586
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: assume it's quite heavy. Yeah, it's like it's a like

587
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: a lunch sack.

588
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: It is.

589
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: It looks like a baby to the bigger bag, because

590
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: the bigger bag is kind of a brown bag, and

591
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: this is a brown lunch sack. So I assume this

592
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: is the thing I should be opening. Well, I wrote

593
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: on this one, Oh it says something. It does a

594
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: bridge or exclamation point. So I assume unless you have

595
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: a brand of paper bags called Bridgers, this is for me, This.

596
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: Is for you. And you know, I could have just

597
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: brought this out.

598
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: From the car, but look at the rich conversation that

599
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: this larger bag has provided. And I even open your wallet.

600
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: We could have gone into your financials, your you know,

601
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: driver's license situation, what have you. God knows what happens

602
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: in a wallet.

603
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: So much happened.

604
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: There's so many things that mine is stuffed with, receipts,

605
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 2: et cetera. Okay, well, wow, there are so many paths

606
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: I want to take right now, but I think we

607
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: should get into this bag before.

608
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: I okay, speaking of receipts, I am the one thing

609
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: I am nervous about is somehow I could not find

610
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: a receipt.

611
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: Oh no, but on credit.

612
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: Card I did and they gave me a little like

613
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: return policy like postcard, and I can't and I usually

614
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: keep receipts very well, so I'm confused if I ever

615
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: received one.

616
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: Okay, do they accept a podcast recording?

617
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: I I'll ask, Okay.

618
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: Tell them to check out. I said, no gifts in

619
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: a few weeks. If there's any trouble. Yeah, because this

620
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: has been a very honest, open conversation about the return

621
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: of these pants. You're obviously you would have told me

622
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: if they were stolen.

623
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: I yeah, because it would be interesting.

624
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: I didn't need to bring this bag of stolen pants

625
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: into your backyard, but I thought we should talk about. Okay, well,

626
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: with no further delay, let's get into this little lunch sack.

627
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: And now I'm pulling out Oh what is this adorable

628
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: little thing? I've pulled out a smaller. This is a

629
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: Russian doll situation.

630
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: There's a smaller, a slightly nicer.

631
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: Bag, right, a very cute, almost cowgirl chic. I would say,

632
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: I can see like kind of a rodeo queen carrying

633
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: this small one of those monkeys that rides a horse.

634
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that?

635
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: Not in person, but I can see.

636
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: One of those holding one of these. Absolutely, that would

637
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 2: be so cute. Yeah, little hat, little skirt, and then

638
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: it's got.

639
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: This, yeah, the other hand on the reins.

640
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: On the way to the store, what have you. Yeah,

641
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: it's like a little leather textured bag that's light blue

642
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: with some fireworks on it. Okay, is there something in

643
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: here or is this what we should talk about?

644
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: There is something in there, although this bag is I

645
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: was just looking for bags today and this is from

646
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: I was cat sitting for my friend Rachel Chapman, who

647
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: gave me the keys, and then she always gives me

648
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: a little like trinkets and gifts, and she put it

649
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: in this ball.

650
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: Oh that's so nice. Yes, this is a great little

651
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: gift bag. Okay, well I'm going to reach in to this,

652
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: the third bag I've seen so far on this episode,

653
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: and I'm pulling something. Oh, oh my god, Oh my god. Wait. Okay, okay,

654
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: so I apologies to everyone involved currently. I felt something

655
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: soft and you know, a beautiful texture and began to

656
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: pull it out and it was a succulent. But it

657
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: looks like I have pulled the succulent out of the

658
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: pot which was in the bag. No.

659
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: I tried so hard to have a good presentation, and

660
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: ultimately it wasn't functional.

661
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: This is kind of my fault. I should have looked

662
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: into the bag, but I tried not to look at

663
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: it until I brought it out. But succulents are so

664
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: your hearty, resilient creature. I'm not even remotely concerned about this,

665
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: but I do want to Should I replant it really quickly?

666
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, sure, I'm sorry. I was just going to

667
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: put everything in here, and then I was like, oh,

668
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: that succulent needs some kind of more of a level

669
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: right surface.

670
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: Succulents can truly live through nuclear winter. So I'm not

671
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: even remotely concerned about this one's health. Okay, So I

672
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: and now looking in I'm seeing another object in here.

673
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: So does it come does it belong with the succulent

674
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: or should we talk about the succulent? First?

675
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: All of the objects in the bag came from the

676
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: same event yesterday.

677
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Oh okay was the event.

678
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: It was a fundraiser for a dear friend, Julia John's,

679
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: and people brought different products you could you could buy

680
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: and to make donations. But the rest of what's in

681
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: the bag, there's two of them, and one of them

682
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: I would like to keep, but you can pick okay,

683
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: but then we can have Matt.

684
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, well yeah, let's see. So let's bring

685
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: this out because you've kind of revealed slightly what it is. No,

686
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: don't stop apologizing, please, I'm the one creating the issues here.

687
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: There are two little bracelets that one says dua fupa

688
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: and one says spicy tuna.

689
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's one that I want more than the

690
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: other one, but I won't tell you.

691
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: I have to decide. Don't make me give you one

692
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: of these.

693
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: So being my friend is really a trap. It's a

694
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: series of tests and people rarely pass, and I view

695
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: everyone who does as an complication.

696
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Well I'm gonna well, I'm going to

697
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: trap you even further by mixing these up in my

698
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: hand and then putting in my left and right. Then

699
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: you have to tell me which hand, Okay, which I

700
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: won't be trapped again today I've been trapped by a

701
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: rude waiter, yes, and I will now be the trapper.

702
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: So you're gonna tell me left or right. I'm gonna

703
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: put the microphone down for one.

704
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 3: Moment, all right, So then whatever happens is my fault. Okay, okay,

705
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: to give to you or to keep to keep for

706
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: yourself left or right hand? Your left hand, left hand.

707
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to open it up and you're going

708
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: to give an honest reaction to what happens.

709
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, this is the one I wanted.

710
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: Spicy tunt I tried to look I was dishonest.

711
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: I tried to keep an eye on on on.

712
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: Which was did you the colors are.

713
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: Slightly Yeah, I've cheated.

714
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: Wow, this is me. As you know, I'm not a

715
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: good master of ceremonies. Obviously, I'm not good at running.

716
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: Day was really nice. I just really more so than

717
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: I wanted to give you a gift. I wanted to

718
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: keep the spicy tune.

719
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: Why did you want spicy tuna so badly? You were

720
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: willing to give up your moral.

721
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: System arbitrarily, was like that's the one I like better yesterday,

722
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: and then was like, I guess I could get dou

723
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 3: a foopa for bridge.

724
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: Well, now we've both got one and we're connected kind

725
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: of cossicly. Now, is this created by somebody that you know?

726
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: Or is this a s bender?

727
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: Becky Yamamoto, Okay.

728
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: You were just at a friend carnival.

729
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, Yes, a friend carnival, just plugging their names

730
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: on the pod.

731
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: Right, just bring out the list, let's read them. Now.

732
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: Are you a big jewelry wearer? Do you like a

733
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: like a bracelet this sort of thing.

734
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm trying to get more into like a

735
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: necklace or something. And I feel like I've noticed a

736
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: trend in like, oh, like some kind of a chain

737
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: or like in layering them, and I'm trying to explore

738
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: that more. I don't wear bracelets ever, but I did.

739
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: I'd wore both of those yesterday and I like the

740
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: feeling of them. So I have warn your Oh.

741
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: You absolutely used as used as these pants being returned.

742
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's used yesterday. And also the story behind the

743
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: plant was it was given to me as I was

744
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: walking out the door and I had been eyeing the

745
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: plants also as a potential gift for today.

746
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: Right.

747
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: But then in terms of thinking about keeping it, I

748
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: don't like that it's fuzzy.

749
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: Oh you don't like the fuzzy text. Yeah, it's one

750
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: of these little succulents that almost has fur.

751
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: Yes, And how do you feel about it?

752
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: I love it. I'm I'm happy to bring any little

753
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: plant into the backyard and just say, now you're on

754
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: your own. Okay, let's see if you can make it

755
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: in this climate.

756
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: You can hack it.

757
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like this one's going to be

758
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: perfectly fine. It's so cute. I mean my fear it

759
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: is pretty small. Will the wind blow it away?

760
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 3: Maybe it couldn't even withstand an unboxing.

761
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: I immediately ripped it out of its dirt. I mean,

762
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: I could just plant it elsewhere in the yard. But

763
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: I do like this little pot. Oh, it's so cute.

764
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: You could use it for something else, the pot.

765
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean, we have a decent amount of wildlife passing

766
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: through this yard, and it can all seems hell bent

767
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: on destroying some element of my home. So who knows

768
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: what will happen to this little baby. But I could

769
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: put it on the sink by the kitchen, and then

770
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: when I'm washing the dishes, Alex on the mind.

771
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: Dishes and this plant. Yeah.

772
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 2: Are you good at taking care of plants?

773
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: No, I'm awful at it. You have so many plants here,

774
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: it looks very lovely.

775
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: Well, this is a there are a lot of plants

776
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: back here. Outdoor plants are slightly easier to maintain, I

777
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: would say. I mean, I've gotten better at indoor plants,

778
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: which was basically just stopped watering them until they look

779
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: absolutely desperate. Then you water. That seems to be the secret.

780
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: Is that a real secret or this is just what

781
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: you did.

782
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: It's kind of the secret, I think, because most people

783
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: tend to overwater, that's what I've heard, okay, and under

784
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: light that's not a real phrase, but you know, don't

785
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 2: put them near windows or whatever. And so I've gotten

786
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: better about making sure my plants aren't soggy, they're not

787
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: growing whatever it is that kills them. Sure, and most

788
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: of my plants inside are now I wouldn't say thriving,

789
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: but they're you know, they're living a decent life.

790
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: Oh that's really nice.

791
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you kill all of them.

792
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: My plants are barely hanging on, but they're not dead yet.

793
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: Okay.

794
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: I think part of me probably wants them to die.

795
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: I also don't know what plants should be indoor, what

796
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: should be outdoor. I brought two of my indoor plants

797
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: outdoors because I have this like little alley area that

798
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: is like fully secure that my dog can just be in,

799
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: like he can't like crawl under the fence. Okay, but

800
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: I really want him to like, oh, just like in

801
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: the morning, go to.

802
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: The bathroom there right right.

803
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: To encourage him, I brought two plants out just to

804
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 3: pee on. And so that's how much I respect.

805
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: My per using the plants as baked essentially, and.

806
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 3: It hasn't even worked that way.

807
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: Now this I wanted to bring this up earlier. You

808
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: mentioned that you just got a dog. What's the dog situation?

809
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: And obviously we still need to talk about there's more

810
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: in this bag, but I do more.

811
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: It could all be garbage that I'm giving you.

812
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: No, not yet, not yet, too charming little gifts. That's great, okay,

813
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: but I do need to I always love to hear

814
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: about a dog.

815
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 3: I just got this dog two months ago, adopted him

816
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: from may Day Rescue. I met him because my friend

817
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: was fostering him and they had also just adopted their

818
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: own dog. And I went over for a book club

819
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: and met this dog they were fostering, and it's been great.

820
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: He I, well, now I sound like I don't believe myself.

821
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're really questioning all of this.

822
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: No, he he's like really changed how I live, but

823
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: also made it. I still don't sound like.

824
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: I'm funny, made it better. You didn't say change the

825
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: way I live in a positive way. It's all all

826
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: feels like this dog is a burden, But I.

827
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 3: Don't believe he's a huge burden, and I love him. Somebody.

828
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: What's his name?

829
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: His name is bandit name. I gave him that name.

830
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: My friends were calling him foxy because he looks like

831
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: a little fox.

832
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh I have to this dog.

833
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's my phone background.

834
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: Let me say this. Oh, he looks like a bandit.

835
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: He has a little he's off to rob a bank.

836
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: These fox ask that's a fantastic How old is he?

837
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: He's like a year and a half and he was

838
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: a street dog. They found him on the street, so

839
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: he's got a bit of like reactivity with other dogs.

840
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 3: But I'm like working with the trainer and it's going okay.

841
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

842
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: A conflict happened with my neighbor the first week I

843
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: had him, and I think that's the like, probably the

844
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: crux of me being like, well, he's wonderful and my

845
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 3: life is so hard.

846
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: Did he attack the neighbor?

847
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: No, he ran after her dogs.

848
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: Okay, smaller dogs.

849
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: He's like ten pounds. The dogs are probably the same size.

850
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: Fair fight, fair fight, But also I appreciate you just

851
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: straight up asking did he attack the neighbor? Like, I

852
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: think it implies that even if that happened, it's not

853
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 3: the end of the world. I don't know. She justly

854
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: I didn't see any contact happen, but she still was like,

855
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: I took my dogs to the vet. I think they

856
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: had a torn pop pad, which all my friends were like,

857
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: that's not from a bite. Maybe her dog stepped on something, right,

858
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: But she was very much just like, I'm not paying

859
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: this bill. And I was like, okay, whatever you need.

860
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 3: I don't hear from her for two weeks and then

861
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: she drives past me calls me on the phone. A

862
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: lawyer she got. She she calls me on the phone

863
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: and says, I see you're in the front yard with

864
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: your dog. Are you planning on doing that more?

865
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: What do you think?

866
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: I was speechless, and she's like, because if you're going

867
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: to be in the front yard, which is just my

868
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: yard with the dog, I'm going to report you to

869
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: the city and to manage me.

870
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: WHOA and a strong reaction.

871
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah so so. Now So, at the same time, i'd

872
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: been working with this uh for a different podcast. I

873
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: got coached by a Dominatrix to try to learn to

874
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: be more powerful.

875
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 2: Oh incredible, Yeah, that's great.

876
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: So this was between session one and two that this

877
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: all happened, and so in an attempt to be more powerful,

878
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 3: I I mean I was scared. I was so scared.

879
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 3: She ended up like banging on my door with this

880
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: big dude with the bill. I didn't answer. She texted

881
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: me the bill. So I text a response of like,

882
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: I'll take care of the bill if you need the help,

883
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: but also like stay away from me and my dog.

884
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: Wow, this is escalated in a way I cannot imagine.

885
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: She texts back like pages and pages of this rant.

886
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: It's I also, I'm so conflict of verse. I just

887
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: I'd rather just disappear forever from someone's life than well, that's.

888
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: What she wants. Yeah, exactly what she wants.

889
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: So the next morning, I don't respond to this like

890
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: long rant. I just vemo her with the Vemo memo

891
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 3: back off.

892
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say that on every Venmo. That's such

893
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: a great thing. Back off.

894
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: Also also, yeah, just hearing myself just the quietest.

895
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: Bat that's great.

896
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 3: Back off. And then I block her on the phone,

897
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: and eventually also on Vemo, just because her picture kept

898
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 3: popping up in my thing. But I was like, wow,

899
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: I've been powerful. But then for a whole week I

900
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: parked a block away from my own boy so that

901
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: she wouldn't know if I was home or not. And

902
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 3: I still I try to only leave my house when

903
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 3: I know it's not her dog walking.

904
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: Down undercover of darkness.

905
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't think I've become powerful.

906
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: I mean the back off, that's a very that's a

907
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: bold move. That's it's not you know, I am fairly

908
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: conflicted versus as well, And the idea of telling anyone

909
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: in any medium to back all is to me the

910
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: strongest person that's ever lived.

911
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: Wow. That's really nice. Because my friend who went to

912
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: Big Bud with me last week, I told her this

913
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: story and she was like, yeah, I guess that's so

914
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: you vet you gave her money. So I don't know,

915
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 3: maybe that's not so powerful.

916
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean, for all we know, this woman is working

917
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: as a team with her dogs, and you're one of

918
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: many of her victims. You know, she's got all this

919
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: money pouring in various people she's just harassing and driving past.

920
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

921
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: So I love my new dog. We're a little we're

922
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: a little family now, and I'm trying to not to

923
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 3: teach him to live like how I'm with him.

924
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like he I mean, he came into

925
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: this home with a very strong attitude.

926
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: It's true. He's not conflicted versus right, he's going for us. Yeah.

927
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: I a friend described him as yeah Bandit is so

928
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: sweet until he sees or hears anything, and then he

929
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: gets mad. So yeah, maybe I should learn to be

930
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: more like him.

931
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: Right, you have things to teach each other. Yeah, this

932
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: is a beautiful beginning of a relationship.

933
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: As far or something. Yeah, people talk about like, oh

934
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: I got a dog and it it like got me

935
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: out of bed in the morning and like really taught

936
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: me what I needed to learn. And this dog has

937
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: taught me to have conflicts in my life.

938
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: It got you in a fight on Venmo. Yes, yeah,

939
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: that's great. Who would have ever thought? And I mean,

940
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: you're on your way to return these pants, and I

941
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: always feel like there's that's a bit of confrontation, regardless

942
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: of the store or item. There's always the moment of

943
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: I don't want this anymore, I have to and who

944
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: knows how the cashier is going to react?

945
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, which is why I'm gonna exchange.

946
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: Without receipt. I mean, you're not getting your cash back.

947
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. We know the world of retail too well. Okay, well,

948
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: let me reach back in to this bag. Okay, okay,

949
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm getting I'm feeling fruit. I'm feeling I'm going to

950
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: guess before I bring it out. Avocado.

951
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Are these? They're from the tree in my front yard.

952
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: I there are two of the damaged ones.

953
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm bringing out two avocados. Wow, this is just

954
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: a full brag about whatever Garden of Eden situation.

955
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: I only have an avocado tree.

956
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: What are these lemons from the plant?

957
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if this plant will survive, but it's okay.

958
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: The lemons, I don't know who or where they're from.

959
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: But so I've had I've lived at this apartment for

960
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: about a year now. It has this very big avocado tree.

961
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 3: There's probably like hundreds of avocados. What a dream, it's

962
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: It's somewhat of a dream. It has now become a

963
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: burden to me, which I guess in.

964
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: How many avocados are you reading a day?

965
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: What I've learned in the past year is that I'm

966
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: not really an avocado per do you like avocado?

967
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: I love, I mean I love a guacamole.

968
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 3: I do like guacamole, and I love to you know.

969
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: I'll put throw them on any item. Yeah, I'm eating up.

970
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: Although I feel like somebody recently put avocado in like

971
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: sea caesar salad or something. I thought, what are we

972
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: doing that doesn't that was the line for you? Yeah,

973
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: there are some items that was like, doesn't quite mix

974
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: with certain cuisines. Doesn't make sense logically for me.

975
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: Interesting because I do feel like avocado is like a

976
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: salad add on right frequently.

977
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: But within within the realm of Italian salad, like a

978
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: Caesar it just doesn't. I don't really associate avocado with

979
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: Italian food.

980
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I never knew that a Caesar salad is Italian,

981
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: but that makes sense.

982
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: I guess it is, right. I mean, it's probably in

983
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: quotation marks basically Italian. I can't imagine. I mean, I mean,

984
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: Caesar's name is right there, right, I just never thought so.

985
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 2: But it was probably invented in Long Island in nineteen

986
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: seventy five or something.

987
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: No, I feel like I learned something today, which is

988
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: that Caesar salads are a.

989
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: Talent but so you're not an avocado person outside of guacamo.

990
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 3: I know. I do like avocado, but I think what

991
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: I've learned from having just a very plentiful supply of

992
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 3: avocados is that I don't think about them to add

993
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: to what I'm eating. Oh I guess, like at a

994
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: restaurant or like ordering a poke bowl or whatever has

995
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: an avocado add on. I'll always think about it, and

996
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: sometimes I do actually get it. But I'm not a

997
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 3: person who in the morning am like, oh, let me

998
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 3: have an avocado today. I don't know, or I don't

999
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: know if anyone does that consciously.

1000
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: I mean, let's go through what you're making for each meal, breakfast,

1001
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: what's happening. I'm not putting it on a cereal.

1002
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: I don't always eat breakfast.

1003
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a problem. Don't support that.

1004
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay, So you could.

1005
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: Eat just a plain avocado with some salt and lemon.

1006
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: That sounds pretty nice, doesn't That sounds like do you

1007
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: have some coffee, I'll have coffee. Yeah.

1008
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: You have just this endless supply of avocados that I

1009
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: would be going wild over right.

1010
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So with this tree, there was a I have

1011
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: a friend who's come to help me harvest them a

1012
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: bunch of times in the last few months. So these

1013
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: two are from his most recent harvest, where I realized

1014
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: that I don't really like having regular avocados. So he

1015
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: took all the like nice, blemish free ones, and I

1016
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: was like.

1017
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: The scarbage for me, I can I'll keep.

1018
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: Well, I used to be like, let me keep a

1019
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: bunch so I can keep giving them to friends. Yeah,

1020
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: you're inspecting the.

1021
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: Currently and they don't seem that bad to Okay.

1022
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, if you slice it open and in.

1023
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: Its family of worms that have taken up residents in there.

1024
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to lean into the fact that I

1025
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 3: brought you a bag of garbage. But yeah, so so

1026
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 3: this friend has come over a few times. The first

1027
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: time I had picked the avocados, and I gave him

1028
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: like a bucket of maybe like twenty avocados, uh, thinking

1029
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: that like, oh, I just have all these avocados in

1030
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: a bucket, let me he can pick them out for

1031
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: himself and then I'll continue on my journey of distributing

1032
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 3: avocados to friends. But he took all of them, which

1033
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: has happened av It's happened a few and then the

1034
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: second time. He well, so he has a nice story

1035
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 3: of like his mom, who lives in Orange County, makes

1036
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: breakfast for the family every morning and like uses avocados and.

1037
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: So okay, so has her supplier died?

1038
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 3: I probably before she bought them at the store and

1039
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: now it's just uh a bag of free ones. And

1040
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: he said that his mom was questing more and is

1041
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: it okay if he comes over to help pick some?

1042
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: And he picked maybe like I want to say, like

1043
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,959
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty avocados. We like tried counting running

1044
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: a machine.

1045
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: How was he doing that?

1046
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: He just really had a good time. And this is

1047
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: also after a year of like uh, like I would

1048
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: sporadically try to pick my own. Or there was also

1049
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: this guy who called himself Cowboy Max, who came over,

1050
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: like a lot has happened with this tree, and I've

1051
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: been thinking about moving a lot.

1052
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: Just because it's because safe.

1053
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: This guy named Cowboy Max, he came and said that

1054
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: he had been coming to this tree for ten years

1055
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: to pick avocados in exchange for like that day he

1056
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: gave me a watermelon. I was just sitting in my

1057
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: front yard having just moved in a year ago. He

1058
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: gave me a watermelon and I was like, oh, great,

1059
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: take take as many as you want. He was like,

1060
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: they're not ready yet. So he came back six months later,

1061
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: but he didn't like greet. I was inside the apartment, Uh,

1062
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: just like on zoom for work, and I see just

1063
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: a man get out of a truck and start taking avocados.

1064
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: Huh is it wearing a cowboy hat?

1065
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 3: He? I think he must have been. He was writing ahead.

1066
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: I should have I should have remembered. I thought it

1067
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: might have been him, but I like interrupted the zoom

1068
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, I'm so sorry there's a man

1069
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: like taking avocados from my tree. I'm just going to

1070
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 3: go investigate.

1071
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: Uh.

1072
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: And it was him, and he I guess it's like

1073
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: a barter system. He like came back the next day

1074
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: with a twenty pound bag of rice and a jar

1075
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 3: of honey for me.

1076
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, it is fascinating, And I.

1077
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 3: Was like, this is great. I like, I love this system.

1078
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 3: But then a few more times after that, my property manager,

1079
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: I guess, saw him and started yelling at him.

1080
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: Property manager's familiar with Cowboy Max.

1081
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if she is. I would have assumed

1082
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 3: she would be, but so I saw him first, and

1083
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 3: he told me that like, oh this this woman had

1084
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 3: like yelled at him and like could I just tell

1085
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: her that? Or like he was like, you said it

1086
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 3: was okay, And I was like, yeah, I'm just renting.

1087
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, I mean I'm not taking

1088
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 3: as many as like there are in the tree, so

1089
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: like feels free. But then the next time he like

1090
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: knocked on my door and the property manager was with him,

1091
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: like I think because she had been showing the unit

1092
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: next door, and I just felt so like, oh, no,

1093
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 3: I don't know who to I was like, yeah, he

1094
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 3: said he'd been coming here for years, and she was

1095
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 3: just like no, he can't just like come to somebody's

1096
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: property and start taking avocado.

1097
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: Tell that to Cowboy Max.

1098
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: I yeah. And so I just felt so guilty of

1099
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: not being able to defend Cowboy Max to the best

1100
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: of my.

1101
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: Ability, especially after the rice and Honey.

1102
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: After the rice and Honey, do you think it.

1103
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 2: Was his own honey?

1104
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: Like, uh, he probably has a bunch of different places

1105
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: and people.

1106
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: From spots spot Yeah, yeah, in a real old passion

1107
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: way both or something.

1108
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, just in his truck. But then like so

1109
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 3: I was scared that cowboy Max have been scared away forever.

1110
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: But then he came back a few days later and

1111
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: was like, so she's around here like three or four

1112
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: o'clock or like he was.

1113
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm getting like deterred early childhood kidnapper vibes from this

1114
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: whole situation. A guy that shows up, Oh, your mom's

1115
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: not home, that sort of thing. Okay, yeah, now this

1116
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: is getting a little scary.

1117
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 3: This is good to know context. I haven't seen him

1118
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: since that that time where he was like, oh, what's

1119
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: a good time to come, Like, I haven't seen him

1120
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: since they so I'm not really sure what happened. But

1121
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 3: now my friend is like helping me pick avocados, and

1122
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 3: that time he picked like one hundred and fifty, he

1123
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: kept like seventy for himself and his mom. Oh and

1124
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: then the lemons.

1125
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: Are unknown source.

1126
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: So the tree is really conspicuous. So a lot of people,

1127
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: if I'm in the front yard, they'll like ask me

1128
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: about the avocados, and like, I'll give them some if

1129
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: I happen to be like picking them. Or there's like

1130
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: one lady who I've given some too, but I also

1131
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: see her all the time, like come to steal them,

1132
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 3: and I'm so scared of like confronting anyone or even

1133
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: just to tell her that it's fine, that I've like

1134
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 3: avoided going home so that she can steal them in peace.

1135
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: And then and then after.

1136
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: She I was just going to eventually not be able

1137
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: to get back home, going to be trapped.

1138
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I can't keep no.

1139
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't realize. I mean, I guess it

1140
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: makes sense. I just didn't realize that having an avocado

1141
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: tree would come with such a great deal of responsibility.

1142
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 3: I think maybe the way I've gone about it has

1143
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: led me to just.

1144
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: The total lack of boundary any old Cabory max wandering and.

1145
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 3: Then yeah, okay, so my theory about the lemons is, uh.

1146
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 3: There was one day where I was walking ban at

1147
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 3: home and this older man and his nurse, the two

1148
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: of them were walking down the street and I walked

1149
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: past them to go home, and they were like, oh,

1150
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: we were just admiring your avocado tree. And I was like,

1151
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: I was thinking about putting out a box at some point,

1152
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: and they were like, great, we'll be back, and I

1153
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: was like, oh, okay, I guess I have to do

1154
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 3: it right now.

1155
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: So I go into that timetable.

1156
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this was right after my friend Will had

1157
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: like picked a bunch and like still left me nice

1158
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: ones and usually the blemish ones. I used to make guacamole. Right,

1159
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: But so I go inside. I put maybe like twenty

1160
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 3: or thirty avocados in a box, and I write the

1161
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 3: word free on the right right or maybe I wrote

1162
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: like take some. I think I wrote.

1163
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: Taking, Oh okay, interesting, take some doesn't quite indicate free.

1164
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: It almost feels like, yeah, I was going to, but

1165
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm taking.

1166
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I wrote take some, Okay. So I

1167
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: bring the box out, I put it like on my

1168
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: front fence, and then eventually I see, uh, the older

1169
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 3: man and his nurse coming back towards me, and so

1170
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: I like take the box off. The legend was like, oh, hey,

1171
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: I like I made this box or I'm putting out

1172
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 3: this box, but like feel free to take some, and

1173
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 3: the man's nurse, who's also this like middle aged man,

1174
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: just takes the whole box and I and I did

1175
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 3: speak up. I was like, oh, I meant for like

1176
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 3: anyone could take some, and the nurse makes this joke

1177
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: of like, oh, well, we're such a big household, so

1178
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: we're going to take all of it, and I was like, oh, okay,

1179
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: and then he says, just kidding, just kidding, so he's

1180
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: they're not kept and then they walked away with the

1181
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: whole box of like thirty avocados. And so my only

1182
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: theory and I have given like all the neighbors around

1183
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 3: me like a little sack of maybe like six six

1184
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: avocados before. But then one day somebody knocked on the door,

1185
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 3: but this was in my hiding face, so I didn't

1186
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 3: open the door. But when I eventually was out, I

1187
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: came back and I saw somebody had left like a

1188
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: grocery shopping bag sized, like brown paper bag full of lemons. Okay,

1189
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 3: And I don't really use lemons for anything, so I've

1190
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: just had a lot of lemons.

1191
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: Have you used any of the lemons?

1192
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 3: I've used some because my friend told me that they're

1193
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 3: good for making the garbage disposal, like the sink things

1194
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: smell better.

1195
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 6: Right, of course, I've just thrown what is happening in

1196
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 6: your house? Yeah, slice it up and put it in

1197
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 6: some water, some iced tea.

1198
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bridger, I don't think I'm okay, But now I

1199
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 3: have three mysterious lemons, two blemished avocados yes, a friendship

1200
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: bracelet yes, and a succulent that could be alive or

1201
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 3: dead nobody, somewhere in between the realm of living and dead.

1202
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: I will nurse it back to health.

1203
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1204
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: This is a fascinating roundup. Oh good, okay, I mean

1205
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: this is going I mean this could lead me an

1206
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: any direction in life. I'm very excited to see what happens.

1207
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: But I think it's time to play a game. Okay, great,

1208
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: I think we're going to play a game called Gift

1209
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: or a Curse. But I need a number between one

1210
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: and ten from you.

1211
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 3: Seven.

1212
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating.

1213
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: Actually I don't want to do seven.

1214
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 2: You don't want to Oh interesting, Okay, that's fine. I

1215
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: support this. Actually I encourage you to get what you

1216
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: would want here.

1217
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: Sorry, just that's the answer everyone gives, right. Seven.

1218
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: People are all over the place.

1219
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe two two.

1220
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: See that's a nice number. A lot of people do

1221
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: not pick two. They can usually go over five. Okay,

1222
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: nobody look that up. I'm pretty sure that's right. Okay, Okay,

1223
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 2: I have to do some calculating with the number.

1224
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 3: Two.

1225
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: You have the mic you can recommend, promote do whatever

1226
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: you want.

1227
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: I'll be right back. Okay, I have a show tonight,

1228
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: but this podcast will come out after that. I hope

1229
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 3: it goes okay. Is what unstructured mic time should be

1230
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: used for? I hope it gets cut. If not, what

1231
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: else has been on my mind lately is just like,

1232
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: what do you do with unstructured time? In general?

1233
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: Alex? You're you're basically promoting the recent past for the listener.

1234
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: But I hope that hopefully someone listening right now happened

1235
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: to be at your show tonight.

1236
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe, which I gave no information about it.

1237
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: Right, So that's going to be a very once that

1238
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: it clicks in for them.

1239
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: It's a monthly show, but I still won't fully pack.

1240
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: Is it a bad show?

1241
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: No, it's fun. I think I still just have a

1242
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: love hate relationship with doing stand up that I'm like, oh,

1243
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: I can't fully I can't fully back it.

1244
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully there's a show one listener who was at

1245
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: the show tonight that is now everything's coming together for

1246
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: them in a huge way in their life where they're thinking, Wow,

1247
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm getting the full Alex experience.

1248
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 3: Do you cut things?

1249
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: Is?

1250
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: I certainly don't that promotional I've tried to move the

1251
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: succulent and it is actually getting worse. The wind's blowing

1252
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: it around. I'm going to just.

1253
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: Leave it be, Okay.

1254
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: I set it upside down for a minute, just to

1255
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: make it think about what it's done.

1256
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 3: But the show is the fourth Sundays at the Bigfoot Lodge.

1257
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: Oh okay, perfect, perfect at nine.

1258
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: So you might be on that show another time, or

1259
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: you might not. You might quit stand up altogether.

1260
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: I might quit the industry.

1261
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: Okay, this is how gift or a Curse works. I'm

1262
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: going to name three things. You're going to tell me

1263
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: if there're a gift or a curse and why. But

1264
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you if you're right or wrong,

1265
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: because there are correct answers. Okay, okay. Number one, this

1266
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: is a listener. It looks like we're getting all listeners suggestions.

1267
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: This game wonderful. Someone named Lizzie has written in Gift

1268
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: or a Curse fitness instructors who say you can do

1269
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: anything for thirty seconds.

1270
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 3: A curse and why I don't like a curse. Anything

1271
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: is too broad? Is that?

1272
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: Okay? Sure?

1273
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you're very you have a very good poker face.

1274
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: Because I'm not I think I'm playing the game with

1275
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 3: the aim of trying to please you, and I don't

1276
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: think it's worthy.

1277
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: The only way to truly win this game is to

1278
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: follow your heart.

1279
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I guess it's a gift because it's like,

1280
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 3: thirty seconds is not very long, and it's it's inspirational

1281
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 3: to think that, oh, okay, I can do the exercise

1282
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 3: or whatever thing that I find too challenging for thirty seconds.

1283
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's a gift for you.

1284
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 3: I guess it's a gift.

1285
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: You're right, I think this is a gift. Sure, I think.

1286
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean what we're looking at here is the fitness.

1287
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: When I'm working out and someone's yelling at me telling

1288
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: me to do these things, the power dynamic, the instructure

1289
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: is on top. So when they say something that's so

1290
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: deeply incorrect, and I know that it's incorrect, that's a

1291
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: little win for me. I know whatever they're about to

1292
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: tell me that I can do for thirty seconds is wrong,

1293
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: and so I get a little win during my workout

1294
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: and it powers me through the rest of us. So

1295
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: maybe that's the psychology they're using.

1296
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 3: Oh, you're saying that the instructor is wrong for.

1297
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: Saying yes, and I get to sit there and be

1298
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: right wow, and now I'm in control for a minute

1299
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: of the workout. I think my idiot instructor has this

1300
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: thing that doesn't really add up, and now I'm stronger

1301
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: because of it, and I can get through the workout.

1302
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 3: Wow. But then you still keep doing the things that

1303
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: the instructor is saying.

1304
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: Well, it depends. I mean, power corrupts, and in that

1305
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 2: moment I might become too strong for my own good.

1306
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: Wow. But power corrupts.

1307
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolute power corrupts, absolutely, and in this situation, I

1308
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 2: might get completely out of control. Okay, But it's a gift,

1309
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: you know. I'm sure it does inspire some people. For me,

1310
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: it's just like I have the win here. The instructor's wrong,

1311
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm right, wow, and I can do this.

1312
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

1313
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: So we're i mean, at least as far as calling

1314
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: it a gift, we're on the same level.

1315
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: Yes, but our paths there are completely different.

1316
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: They're different. But that's the beautiful thing about life. Okay,

1317
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: So you've gotten one out of one, so are very impressive.

1318
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:26,959
Speaker 3: Okay.

1319
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: Okay. Number two is from Amelia. Amelia says gift or

1320
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: a curse at a concert when the band stops playing

1321
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 2: and has the crowd singing the lyrics instead of the

1322
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: actual performer. Gift or a curse? Are you familiar with

1323
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: this sort of situation.

1324
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 3: Yes, first instinct would be that it's a curse, because

1325
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 3: you know you didn't you didn't go to the concert

1326
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 3: to hear other people who's not the band the singer

1327
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 3: sing this. But I'm inclined to say gift because I

1328
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 3: think there might be a trick here. Okay, so I

1329
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: think it's a gift because and I know I'm not

1330
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 3: following my heart. I'm again trying.

1331
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1332
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 3: Because it gives the singer a break to keep doing

1333
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 3: a good job.

1334
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: After Alex wrong curse. First of all, anytime anyone's singing

1335
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: or yelling in Unison, I feel so embarrassed for everybody.

1336
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: I feel this deep shame. You know, cheers in high

1337
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: school or any of that. I was always like, this

1338
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: sounds so stupid, what are we doing? Second of all,

1339
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: not my job. I'm here for whatever whoever on stage

1340
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: is doing. I don't need to hear the person that's

1341
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: been bumping up against me for the last forty five minutes. Yes,

1342
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: yell in my ear. I don't need it. Absolutely I

1343
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: don't want it. I didn't pay the ticket price, the fees,

1344
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: the parking to show up to listen to you know,

1345
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: concert goer so and so ruined my night. It's a curse.

1346
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: It's absolutely a curse. There's no no reason any Maybe

1347
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: you can sing along with the singer, sure, it's just

1348
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: come on, we need a clearer boundary between performer and audience.

1349
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: I don't like when it becomes one and then it's

1350
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: we get into some tricky territory there and it makes

1351
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: me really uncomfortable.

1352
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 3: This was a lesson for me and interesting my heart.

1353
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah you were, I mean you tried to outsmart the

1354
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: game and it blew up in your face and I'll

1355
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: say it a disgusting way.

1356
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he sat there and watched as just crumpled.

1357
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: But that's okay. You've gotten one out of two. You

1358
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: have a chance to get at least one more correct.

1359
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: And this is from Michael. Michael has written in and

1360
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 2: said gift to a curse. Novelty mail boxes I e.

1361
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: In the shape of a farmhouse, dolphin, manatee, et cetera.

1362
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't know why he picked two marine life things

1363
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: as mailboxes, but you get the general idea I give

1364
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: you're a curse.

1365
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 3: I've never seen one or heard of this before.

1366
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: You're kidding, I don't think.

1367
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I've seen it.

1368
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: But you can kind of picture a mailbox in the

1369
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: shape of a manatee.

1370
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah I can, Yeah, I can picture. I got so defferense.

1371
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, Now, yeah, manite, everybody can picture that. Uh okay,

1372
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 3: I'll just follow my heart on this one and say curse.

1373
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 3: It seems like it would look look cursed, and I think, depending, Okay,

1374
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 3: this is from my imagination and not having actually seen one,

1375
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 3: I think there's a possibility that it could look charming, right.

1376
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what they actually look like, but I'm

1377
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 3: gonna go with.

1378
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: Cursed, Alex, I hate to see the game. Just you know,

1379
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: you've tried one method and it didn't work for you.

1380
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: Now you've tried to I think they're a gift. What

1381
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 2: do you have against giving the mail person a little

1382
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 2: bit of fun. They get to open up to the

1383
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: dolph and the manatee, the farmhouse.

1384
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 3: I didn't even think of the mail person in this scenario.

1385
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: It's a charming bit of kitsch that I think everyone

1386
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 2: should have a mailbox in a shape of their favorite thing.

1387
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that anyone should have just a regular mailbox,

1388
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 2: a nice you know, mildly tacky little object that gets

1389
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: to collect your.

1390
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 3: Mail that is nice. Well, can I ask you, Bridger,

1391
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 3: if a guest on your podcast I said no gifts

1392
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 3: were to give you a mailbox in the shape of

1393
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: a nice of your favorite object, how would that go?

1394
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 2: I would be thrilled, and I will there would be

1395
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: nothing that would stop me from enjoying it. Would I

1396
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 2: use it as my official mailbox? Is the big question?

1397
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, I think what would end up happening because

1398
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: I had Actually, my mailbox is a kind of a nightmare.

1399
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: It's one of those metal boxes that it's like you

1400
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 2: drop it in rather than open the little door at

1401
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: the front. Oh okay, you know, like the old fashioned

1402
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: mailbox where you open the door at the front. There's

1403
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: no lock on it. I prefer that it's easier access,

1404
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: but obviously your mail's gonna get stolen. Mine's more like

1405
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: a little deposit box. Oh, it has a lot stuck

1406
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: to the front of the house. Oh.

1407
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 3: Mine also is you drop it in, but it's shallow

1408
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: enough and there's.

1409
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: No lock and you can fish it out. Okay, so

1410
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 2: you're getting the worst of both worlds.

1411
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 3: Oh great.

1412
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 2: So if I ended up with my own novelty mailbox,

1413
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: I think what would happen is it would go on

1414
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 2: my kitchen counter for you know, the mail that piles

1415
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: up on the counter.

1416
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 3: That makes it right, like after the mail has been

1417
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 3: brought in.

1418
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: Right.

1419
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: But my ultimate defense here is I will never reveal

1420
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: my favorite object.

1421
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 3: That's yeah.

1422
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 2: I mean someone would have to do years of research

1423
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: on me before they were able to pinpoint my favorite

1424
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 2: object for a mailbox, and I will never reveal it,

1425
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: maybe on my deathbed, okay, whisper to my grand niece

1426
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: or whoever my favorite object, and then they'll have to

1427
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 2: buy their own mailbox for themselves. Well, you got one

1428
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: out of three. That's let's be honest.

1429
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 3: That's bad. That's pretty bad, even the first one. I

1430
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 3: almost said you could have.

1431
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 2: Failed at victim. So let's look at the bright side.

1432
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: You're not walking away a total looser.

1433
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.

1434
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: And you also were able to try some different methods

1435
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: of the game you experimented, which is always exciting. Uh

1436
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: did it work out?

1437
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 3: No?

1438
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: But no one blames you for trying your hardest.

1439
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 3: Thanks.

1440
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the final part of the podcast. This

1441
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 2: is called I said no emails. People? Are you right

1442
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 2: into I said no gifts at gmail dot com regardless

1443
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: of my feelings, and they ask questions, They beg for help.

1444
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: Every one of them is desperately seeking some sort of

1445
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 2: answer about a social situation or a gift giving situation.

1446
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 2: Would you help me answer one?

1447
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 3: Sure?

1448
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go this when this one just starts

1449
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 2: out with a hard Bridger exclamation point which matches the bag,

1450
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: but does not address you as the guest, which is interesting.

1451
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: Usually they say Bridger and guest or but don't let

1452
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: that stop you from participating.

1453
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,480
Speaker 3: Okay, bringing my advice would be unsolicited.

1454
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yours is fully unsolicited, kind of like this email.

1455
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: So you're you and the writer are on the same

1456
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: page for sure, says Bridger. I finally worked up the

1457
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: nerve to get my first tattoo, though I'd had the

1458
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: idea for several years. I teach theater for kids K

1459
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: through twelve and wanted to get a The comedy slash

1460
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: tragedy masks split up behind either ear I E Comedy left,

1461
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: tragedy right, and B the phrase, well, this person loves

1462
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: the theater because and B this phrase stage left on

1463
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: my left shoulder and stage right on my right shoulder.

1464
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: The artist was very kind and meticulous, and because it

1465
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 2: was a symmetrical design, he ended up readjusting the stencil

1466
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 2: for stage left several times and even reprinted it for

1467
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: best sizing. We're getting into a real tattoo story here.

1468
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: This is the most detailed tattoo story I've ever heard.

1469
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: After he got everything aligned, we powered through the tattoo.

1470
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: Remember it's my first tattoo. Unfortunately, somewhere in reprinting the stencil,

1471
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: the artist had mixed up templates, so now I have

1472
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: the phrase stage right printed on both my right and

1473
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 2: left shoulder. After realizing his mistake, the artist was really apologetic,

1474
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: I hope, so, offering to comp the tattoo and reschedule

1475
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: me for removal or redesign over a few sessions. I

1476
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: was too elated from the experience to truly process the

1477
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 2: permanent mistake on my left shoulder and left with a

1478
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: quote free botch tattoo. Honestly, Bridger, I'm probably going to

1479
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: keep the misprint because now it's truly unique. Also, if

1480
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 2: you're reading from a theater's house. Then the view over

1481
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: my left shoulder truly is stage right for the actor

1482
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: question slash dilemma.

1483
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 3: Here we go.

1484
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: So we've now been through a tattoo journey. What's the

1485
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 2: real situation? Should I contact this artist and try to pay,

1486
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: even at a pro rated rate for this tattoo? It

1487
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: seems like reminding him of the incident could make him

1488
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: feel worse. But also artists should be paid for their work,

1489
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 2: even if they occasionally mix up stencils. And that's from Julia.

1490
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 2: This is a fascinating one for a variety of reasons.

1491
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean, this is really a one of a kind

1492
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: email to get on this podcast. So what are we

1493
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: talking about here?

1494
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1495
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 3: I really love this person's attitude throughout.

1496
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: Very positive. They have nothing to do with your neighbor. Yes,

1497
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 2: that mentality that neighbor would have burned this tattoo parlor down.

1498
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love even just the early details of like oh.

1499
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 3: The tattoo artists even beared with me in resizing and

1500
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: adjusting the placement of like oh. Yeah, I would assume

1501
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 3: that that should happen, I would hope, But I also

1502
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 3: I only have one to But I remember also feeling

1503
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 3: very like bad for taking too much time when I

1504
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: did want resizing or like whatever to happen with the temperature.

1505
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 3: But it is like it'll be on your body for it.

1506
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: You should be as close to what you want as possible.

1507
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just taking them a few extra minutes, right, Wait,

1508
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 3: So the question is about.

1509
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 2: Should they try to pay It seems like reminding him

1510
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: of the incident could make him feel worse. Basically, should

1511
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 2: I pay this person for the horrible work they did?

1512
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 3: And so they so? So that to me sounds like

1513
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 3: it was four tattoos was the.

1514
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: Whole thing, sod I mean, I honestly, I hope so, Okay,

1515
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean I think bare minimum this should be a

1516
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 2: free job, right, That's what I was mistake.

1517
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 3: It is very it is very funny to have two

1518
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 3: stage rights on on on the two sides of your body.

1519
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 3: But yeah, that could because it's like four separate things, right.

1520
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 2: So you shoulder shoulders.

1521
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then so they've already like left this experience.

1522
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 3: They're not currently at.

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: The right I mean, they may be sitting at the

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01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 2: with the tattoo artists as we speak and just waiting

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01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: to hear word from us. Yeah, I guess we could

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01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: just assume that or like, kind of they've been idling

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01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 2: in their car outside of the tattoo shop for weeks. Yes,

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: and are just thinking waiting for this answerer, give me

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01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 2: an answer. And also I'm I'm just backing up slightly.

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01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: It sounds like this person just some the details of

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01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 2: this person's life. It sounds like they have a lot

1532
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: of off the shoulder looks when they're on stage, because

1533
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: they're talking about people will see this tattoo whenever they're

1534
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 2: on stage, so we need to keep that in mind.

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 2: We need to keep in mind that they have a

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: permanent mistake on their body, right, And.

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01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 3: So it's not to the payment is just for the

1538
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 3: original work. It's not to take the artists up on

1539
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 3: the offer of fixing fixing it.

1540
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I mean interesting, look, Julia, despite

1541
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: how many details you did give, there are a few

1542
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 2: key missing pieces that would really allow us to solve

1543
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: this in a tidy way. But to me, I mean, okay, again,

1544
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 2: she's been idling outside the tattoo artists home or what

1545
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 2: have you for weeks. I think it's time to just

1546
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: pull away. Nothing should be paid for here.

1547
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's kind of it's not so much. Is

1548
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 3: her name Julie Julia Julia. Julia seems very worried about

1549
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 3: this other person in the story, whereas I don't think

1550
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 3: she needs to worry as much because even the payment thing,

1551
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 3: the concern there is like will it remind the tattoo

1552
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 3: artists of their mistake, rather than like do I need

1553
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 3: to be paying.

1554
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 2: Or nothing of this really has anything to do with

1555
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: Julia's well being.

1556
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they feel bad, but I don't think

1557
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 3: they lose sleep. Well, maybe they lose sleep over it,

1558
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 3: but but I don't think them being paid for it.

1559
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: They're like, well, now I feel about my mistake. But

1560
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,799
Speaker 3: that said, I don't think you need to go back.

1561
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I think the real question here is

1562
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: does Julia retaliate?

1563
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: Right and.

1564
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 2: Resounding yes? Okay, I think not only do you not

1565
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: pay Julia that you have You're going to be living

1566
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 2: with this thing the rest of your life, and this

1567
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: tattoo artist is now going to be haunted by you.

1568
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 2: They will never be able to feel safe again, and

1569
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: so wants revenge.

1570
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 3: What's the best retaliation for this specific transgression?

1571
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 2: I mean, just off the top of the head of

1572
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 2: rock through the window, Okay, slash tire.

1573
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 3: I wanted something like like where it's pointed that like

1574
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: you place, oh interesting, the same words on me twice

1575
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: in the one of them in the wrong place.

1576
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: So how is this a situation where you like spray

1577
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: paint their garage stage right, stage right on each side.

1578
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: Oh maybe yeh, leaf theater masks somewhere.

1579
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: And like a like a like on their pillow. They

1580
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: get home at night, turn on the lights and there's

1581
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: this haunting mask.

1582
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bloody comedy and tragedy mask.

1583
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean there's kind of I mean, Julia has been

1584
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: very creative with coming up with this tattoo. I think

1585
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 2: you apply that creativity to terrorizing this person.

1586
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's somewhere energy can come.

1587
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 2: Right, that's a nice positive outlet where both of you

1588
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: will your lives change, and it'll feel justified, absolutely justified,

1589
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: for decades to come.

1590
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I guess if it were me, I would

1591
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 3: enact the retaliation and then also send the money.

1592
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's an interesting thing. So you send the money

1593
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 2: before the retaliation the beginning.

1594
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 3: Or maybe or yeah, I guess this is what I've

1595
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 3: done with my neighbor of just like I am a coward,

1596
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 3: but Also here is some revenge.

1597
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 2: Right, that's a nice balanced approach, I think, Yeah, which

1598
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: I think?

1599
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: Will?

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01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Julia loves to balance her tattoo, and now

1601
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 2: she's going to balance these life decisions, retaliate, pay and

1602
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 2: hopefully be more precise than this tattoo artist.

1603
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 3: Yes, the key here is precision.

1604
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: Precision, deadly precision.

1605
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 3: Julia.

1606
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 2: You've gotten your answer in a perfect way, and take

1607
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: that information, execute the plan, and now you have nothing

1608
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: left to worry about. Yeah, we answered that perfectly.

1609
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 3: Wow.

1610
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: Well look, Alex, I now have this kind of grab

1611
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: bag of jewelry, plants and fruit.

1612
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 3: Grab bag? Is it? Good? Word? And my?

1613
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: I mean, do you want to keep this little monkey bag?

1614
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 3: No, that's for you.

1615
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 2: Should I keep the monkey bag? Okay? Well, everyone can

1616
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 2: go to Instagram to see all of these items. Will

1617
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: take some photos, and hopefully everyone pray for the succulent.

1618
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: I've had such a wonderful time with you here.

1619
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 3: This is so lovely. Thank you so much for having me.

1620
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: I'll send you off to get your pants return.

1621
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1622
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: Listener. If you have a return to make today, I

1623
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: hope you have your receipt. If not, try to be

1624
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 2: respectful to the customer service department and try to get

1625
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: that return as smooth as possible. I wish you luck.

1626
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 2: This is the end of the podcast, so and I've

1627
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 2: offered you the one option for your life of returning

1628
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 2: an item. But there, of course, life is full of

1629
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: possibilities and you can do other things. So do what

1630
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 2: you want to do. We'll talk again soon. I love you, goodbye.

1631
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 2: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

1632
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 2: produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully

1633
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 2: mixed by John Brandley. The theme song, of course, could

1634
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow

1635
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 2: the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, I

1636
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 2: don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get

1637
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.

1638
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

1639
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

1640
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: But you're I guess to my home. You gotta come

1641
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: to me empty, And I said, no, guess. Your own

1642
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 1: presences presents enough that I already had too much stuff.

1643
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?