1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hi there, 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. My name is Chris Polette. I'm 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: an editor here at how Stuff Works and with me 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: according to its profile on Facebook, is writer Jonathan Strickland. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Will you be my friend? Sure? So, yeah, Today we're 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna talk about Facebook in general and the recent Facebook 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: redesign in particular. UM. In case you have been under 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: a rock for the last four years, here's the brief 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: overview of Facebook. It's an online social network, uh debuted 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand four and it was originally UM geared 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: for college students, so that's what the For the first 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: several months of development, it was pretty much just college 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: kids using this to to build up groups of friends 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: and keep in contact with each other and find out 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: what each other are doing and all that sort of thing. 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: And then eventually Facebook opened it up to the public 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: in general, and everyone and their dog got a Facebook page. 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding there are dogs with Facebook pages 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: and cats as well. They don't discriminate. Um. And then 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: in August of two thousand six. So two years after debuted, 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: Facebook announced that it was going to open up uh 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: some of its programming to developers, and a year later, 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: in two thousand seven, they actually allowed developers to use 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: Facebook as a platform. And then that's when you saw 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: this explosion of of applications hit Facebook. So, um, if 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: you are the person who has the zombie pirate, armored 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: night Scribulous uh Facebook profile, you know exactly what I'm 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: talking about here, unless, of course, that yours is one 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: of the ones affected by a Scrabulous you might be 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: you might be surprised to know there's there was a 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: basically a knockoff of the game, the popular Scrabble brand 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: crossword game by Hasbro UM And you might say, why 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: are you using the trademark name, Well, that's uh, somebody 36 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: did a knockoff these two guys in India, um basically 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: because Hasbro didn't have their own version of Scrabble on there. 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: And you might say, why do I care about this program? Well, 39 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Scrabulous became huge. It was a very very popular way 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: to network with with other Facebook users with friends and family. 41 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Speaking from personal experience, been playing Scrabulous for for months 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: with different family members across the country, and UH, Hasbro 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: got a little jealous, and all of a sudden, everywhere 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: you turn on all these websites after Scrabble UH made 45 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: its debut and Hasbro is announcing a lawsuit against the 46 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: creator Subscribulous. It's on every news site everywhere from the 47 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: United States to everywhere else in the world. It's amazing 48 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: how a scrap bowl game became the talk of Facebook 49 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: for you know, a week or more, right, actually months, really, 50 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: because if you've been listening to other podcasts or if 51 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: you've read the news, you probably have seen things about 52 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: about this story. But really, let's let's let's try and 53 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: keep this in mind. Describulous is just one of many 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: programs that's on Facebook. In fact, I read one in 55 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: one source that there are now more than twenty four 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: thousand programs on Facebook. That's a lot of programs. And 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: the redesign kind of addresses this issue because here's here's 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: how these programs work. Developers create their own applications, UH, 59 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: they host them on their own servers, and then it 60 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: links to Facebook. And if you subscribe to one of 61 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: these applications, if you if you install it within your 62 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: profile page, you give that developer the right to look 63 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: at your information. Now, Originally Facebook said we just want 64 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: developers to look at whatever information they application needs to 65 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: know in order to ron. So maybe that's just the 66 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: number of friends you have or your profile name. But 67 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: the problem is that there was not really a way 68 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: to enforce that. So technically developers were getting as much 69 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: information as they wanted that was available on your profile. 70 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: So that could be your birthday. Even friends who had 71 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: set their profiles to private, if you UH installed an 72 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: application on your profile, the developer would be able to 73 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: look at that person's profile as if he or she 74 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: were you. So there were some major privacy issues early 75 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: on with this UH, with all these programs coming up. Yeah, 76 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: and I saw a report not too long ago about 77 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: a student who had been asked to give up even 78 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: more information, including his social Security number, and it got 79 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: him in a lot of trouble because it allowed UH, 80 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: it allows identity theft. So basically, once they've they've lulled 81 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: you into a sense of secure where you're willing to 82 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: give up some information. You know, there are some people 83 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: who are let's say less scrupulous, not scrupulous scrupulous than others, uh, 84 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, are are starting to ask for more information 85 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: under the guys of hey, well we need this to 86 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: make your make the program work. And um, you know, 87 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: there have been people who have been fooled into thinking 88 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: that somebody is going to use this for a good purpose, 89 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: and you know, it's a bit of social engineering on 90 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: their part to get some information they probably shouldn't otherwise have. 91 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: And and even on a more benign level, that it 92 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: could mean something like selling your information to advertisers so 93 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: that you could be the the the target of targeted advertising. 94 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know about you, but I think 95 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: most people probably feel they see enough commercials as it is. Um. So, 96 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: so yeah, this was a big problem and that was 97 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: part of the reason Facebook was looking into its major redesign. 98 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: And another part was just that if you go to 99 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: a Facebook page and you look at someone's profile and 100 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: this person has subscribed to a lot of these applications, uh, 101 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: the page gets pretty cluttered. That's true. Each of these 102 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: applications has a little image that goes along with it. 103 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: So if you tell the program that you're installing that 104 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: you want to uh to include this in your profile, 105 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: then it's going to put another little badge on there. 106 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: It's it's not unlike I guess the badges you would 107 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: see on the side of a fighter jet in World 108 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: War Two every time they shot down another plane and 109 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: get the little thing on the side of the nose 110 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: where you'd have, you know, sixteen different ones. Well, on Facebook, 111 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, you have, say, you have fifteen different applications installed, 112 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: and you let it show that on your profile page. 113 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: All of a sudden you've got this little string of 114 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: little I don't know, probably sixteen by sixteen pixel or 115 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: a thirty two by thirty two images, you know, representing 116 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: each of those applications. And and it gets worse than 117 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: that because some of the applications also put will put 118 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: a box in your profile page so that um, it'll 119 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: it'll take up even more space on your profile. Now, 120 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: not every application does that, but and you can choose 121 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: to not let it do that. But if you're not 122 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: paying attention and you're just saying, oh, I want to 123 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: be a pirate, Oh I want to be a zombie, 124 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh I want to be aware wolf, Oh I love 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: this movie application, eventually you're you're a profile is just 126 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: gonna be filled with all these different boxes and it's 127 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: it's arranged vertically so you have to scroll down and 128 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: down and down, and it may be that that it 129 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: takes a good minute and a half to scroll all 130 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: the way through your page, which is not very elegant. 131 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: So that was another part of the redesign. We should 132 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: probably actually got around to talking about what the redesign 133 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: looks like. It's it's pretty neat. Actually. They they've organized 134 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: the Facebook profiles into tabbed pages, so everything is now 135 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: organized within tabs, and all those applications are now in 136 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: a tab called boxes. Um. I'm sure this probably has 137 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: some of the developers a little peeved because it's if 138 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: you're looking at the main profile page, you don't see 139 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: the applications there anymore. And I bet that's got some 140 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: people rubbed the wrong way. That's true, but it doesn't 141 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: make the the profile a lot easier to navigate. I mean, 142 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: rather than having a list of all your applications and 143 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: being limited to see only a few of them at 144 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: a time, you can actually hit the applications tab and 145 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: uh and see all the different applications in one place. Um. 146 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: You can also, you know, there's also links to your 147 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: friends to your inbox. You'll see your status updates right there, 148 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: and they opened up, UM, and they had basically three sections. 149 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: You had your left navigation and then the main content 150 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: on your profile, then another in the right rail. And 151 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: they basically got rid of the entire left navigation scheme 152 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: and put it into those tabs. So it really opens 153 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: up a lot of white space and makes the page 154 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: easier to uh, to get through. Right. It doesn't look 155 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: nearly as busy as it used to, and it's I 156 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: think it's a it's a huge improvement. UM. I do 157 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: use Facebook occasionally and UH, and I really do like 158 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: the new layout. Now, if you haven't seen the new layout, 159 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: that's probably because Facebook hasn't really rolled it out to 160 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: the site at large, but you can check it out 161 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: at www dot new dot Facebook dot com. That's in 162 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: e w UM and that's where you can see the 163 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: the the new design. And UH, I think it's pretty nifty. 164 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: I know too. Although a lot of the feedback that 165 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: I've seen on blogs and different social networks that aren't 166 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: Facebook and uh, a lot of the people who I 167 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: follow have not been at all thrilled with it. But 168 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: someone who might have been thrilled with it, um at 169 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: least enough to get hit with a lawsuit. UM. As 170 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: a German organization which is uh sort of a very 171 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: similar website called study vz, and they are accused of 172 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: and I quote copying the look, feel, features and services 173 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: and quote um of the Facebook uh layout according to 174 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: the Financial Times, So they have actually gotten as close 175 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: to Facebook as they could to the point where Facebook 176 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: is willing to take legal action. So you know, it's um. 177 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: It's a popular layout for for social platform. Yeah. Whenever 178 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: a new social networking site comes on, the inevitable comparisons 179 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: against the two biggias MySpace and Facebook come around. And 180 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: in some cases those comparisons you say, it doesn't just 181 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: resemble it, it it's identical to it. And that's a 182 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: that's not a not the best route to take. I think. Well, 183 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: if you want to learn more, you should visit how 184 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com and read how Facebook Works. Until then, 185 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you later for more on this and 186 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: thousands of other topics. Does it how stuff works dot com? 187 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. 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