WEBVTT - Codifying Conspiracies

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to woke f with me Danielle Moody. With the

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<v Speaker 1>first one hundred days of the Biden Harris administration behind us,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to look forward to the many fights for

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<v Speaker 1>justice that are still ahead of us. One battle that

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<v Speaker 1>grassroots activists have been fighting for almost a decade is

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<v Speaker 1>the battle to renew and restore voting rights after the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen Shelby County de Holder decision gutted the Voting

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<v Speaker 1>Rights Act of nineteen sixty five. A focal point for

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<v Speaker 1>this struggle is in the state of Georgia, where leaders

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<v Speaker 1>like Stacy Abrahams have been working tirelessly to activate more

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<v Speaker 1>voters and attain proper representation in government. Last month, Georgia's

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<v Speaker 1>state representative part Cannon was arrested and charged with two

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<v Speaker 1>felony counts simply for doing her job and knocking on

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<v Speaker 1>the door of the illegitimate governor, Brian Kemp and demanding

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<v Speaker 1>he not signed away Georgian's rights behind closed doors. Representative

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<v Speaker 1>Canon join me this week on woke af Daily to

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<v Speaker 1>tell her story and talk about the gains that activists

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<v Speaker 1>have made on the ground in Georgia and the many

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<v Speaker 1>obstacles that had yet to be overcome. You can hear

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<v Speaker 1>our full half hour conversation about her experience being arrested

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<v Speaker 1>and charged, why more marginalized people need to be running

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<v Speaker 1>for office in local communities and more by supporting me

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<v Speaker 1>on Patreon at patreon dot com slash woke af for

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<v Speaker 1>right Now. Here's my question to Georgia's state representative part

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<v Speaker 1>Cannon on why and how Georgia became a centerpiece in

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<v Speaker 1>the fight for voting rights in America. What is really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and maybe this is something that obviously, because you've

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<v Speaker 1>been working in Georgia for a quite some time now,

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<v Speaker 1>that you've seen coming but the rest of the country

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<v Speaker 1>did not. Right, Georgia has become a lightning rod in

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<v Speaker 1>so many different ways because of the hard and tireless

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<v Speaker 1>work of extraordinary activists and politicians like yourself that have

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<v Speaker 1>been due the work to elevate the voices of black

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<v Speaker 1>and brown people that are in that state. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this piece of legislation that was signed into law by

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Kemp is based on a lie, right, just like

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<v Speaker 1>the over two hundred pieces of legislation that are now

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<v Speaker 1>in over forty states in this country based on a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to know, where do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>we head now, knowing that we are just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>months shy of beginning midterm elections in this country where

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<v Speaker 1>there are elections that are happening all the time. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that Governor Kemp is being sued right again for

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<v Speaker 1>the actions that he has taken. But where do you

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<v Speaker 1>see Georgia moving now? As it pertains to voting rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia is already voting in record numbers and voters have

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<v Speaker 1>actually gone through whatever coping mechanisms that they need to

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<v Speaker 1>access the ballot. When we talk about Georgians turning the

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<v Speaker 1>state blue, many times it's talked about as this idea

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<v Speaker 1>happened overnight. It really didn't. Years and years of trauma

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<v Speaker 1>informed practices by voting rights groups saying, Wow, you're having

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<v Speaker 1>some issue with transportation to get to the polling place.

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<v Speaker 1>We will help you with that. Geez, you're thirsty or

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<v Speaker 1>hungry from standing in this six hour line, will provide

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<v Speaker 1>you with some refreshments. Oh wow, you are experiencing COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen and you're trying to figure how to get your

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<v Speaker 1>ballot to you and back in. Who can sign for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Who can help you? Will help you with a hotline.

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<v Speaker 1>So Georgians have already been working towards stopping what they

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<v Speaker 1>have done the GOP, which is caught defying conspiracies. When

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<v Speaker 1>you spotify a conspiracy and you turn it into state law,

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<v Speaker 1>you enact so many different officers who believe that they

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<v Speaker 1>are the protector of the vote to do things that

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<v Speaker 1>will disempower people from voting. There are two pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>Senate Bill two O two that I really want Georgians

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<v Speaker 1>to take in consideration and have a strategy for. The

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<v Speaker 1>first one is now any old person in Georgia can

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<v Speaker 1>put in an unlimited number of petitions to people's voter registrations.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw this in twenty eighteen. We wrote a whole

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<v Speaker 1>movie about it, documentary and screened it. It's called Suppressed

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<v Speaker 1>with Brave New Films. And what we explained there was

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<v Speaker 1>there was this gentleman who lived in a rural community

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<v Speaker 1>and he felt like people with these different last names

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<v Speaker 1>with hyphens in their last names, that they weren't real people.

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<v Speaker 1>So he would go up to the elections boards meetings

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<v Speaker 1>that really no one else attended, and he would submit

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<v Speaker 1>the number of petitions he could submit for that day

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<v Speaker 1>and next month he would go back and do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that same person is going to have the power

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<v Speaker 1>to be the voter registrations are And you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know us, you don't know who we are, but we

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<v Speaker 1>know strategy is. So that's the first issue. The second

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<v Speaker 1>is the human rights violations that are codified by criminality.

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<v Speaker 1>You can face a misdemeanor now for helping someone get

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<v Speaker 1>food or water in line. What So, we are trying

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<v Speaker 1>as Georgians to help the country understand that these factions

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<v Speaker 1>and these bills and policies didn't just happen overnight. They

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<v Speaker 1>have been working on these four years. So we want

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<v Speaker 1>other states to go ahead and sure up voter rights,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's in a small subsection, the criminality section,

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<v Speaker 1>the mail in ballot, the in person voting, the absentee,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, sure up voting rights before conspiracies become codified,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you. And if there is anything that the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party has become the master of, it is codifying conspiracies.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now in Arizona, they are doing yet another audit

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<v Speaker 1>on the twenty twenty election that is being overseen by

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<v Speaker 1>oa N News, you know, the Trump News channel. As

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<v Speaker 1>if that is bipartisan or non party. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we are living in a parallel universe. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>other things. You know, you started off saying that you

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<v Speaker 1>were the youngest representative to be elected in Georgia, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that is extraordinary. I remember when you

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<v Speaker 1>were first running, we were also excited. I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>a black queer woman like I was just let go,

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<v Speaker 1>girl go. You know, whatever can be done should be done.

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<v Speaker 1>You've written a book entitled The Universal Guide for Running

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<v Speaker 1>for Office at the State level. Why do you still

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<v Speaker 1>believe that folks like us should be running for office

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<v Speaker 1>given all that we're up against. Should we be in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, should we be in the c suites? Should

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<v Speaker 1>we be in state office? Why do you think it's

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<v Speaker 1>important that we run? All of it? But what I

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<v Speaker 1>will say about this message of running for office is

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<v Speaker 1>the most important piece of it is recognizing that you

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<v Speaker 1>are going to run as you are. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>are a CEO already or you've been working in McDonald's,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to need to run as you are. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to go back through those photo albums

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<v Speaker 1>and ask your family members, why were we living there,

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<v Speaker 1>what were we doing, who was working where and how

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<v Speaker 1>do we get to this place where half of our

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<v Speaker 1>family didn't vote in this one specific election. There's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be a really deep dive that people do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I use the Universal Guide to Running for Office

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<v Speaker 1>to explore that, to help people break it down and

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<v Speaker 1>to make it actionable. I have a whole mess at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of it of affirmation pages where I have

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<v Speaker 1>you and then you affirm yourselves, and you keep that

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<v Speaker 1>going so that as you're out there on the campaign trail,

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to say, I understand legislating uber and lyft

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<v Speaker 1>because I take uber and lyft more differently than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some of my seventy eight eighty year old colleagues. So

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<v Speaker 1>I am a subject matter expert in this conversation. Or

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been working at McDonald's, you understand food safety guidelines,

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<v Speaker 1>you understand osha, you understand all of these different micro

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<v Speaker 1>situations that make you the perfect to run for office,

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<v Speaker 1>that actually help you see your power in the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone can talk about balancing the state budget, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>want money for their hospitals, But if you're a black

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<v Speaker 1>woman and you're a healthcare worker in Georgia, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be running for office. You were the number one type

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<v Speaker 1>of person in the clinical settings contracting COVID nineteen during

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<v Speaker 1>this pandemic. So you are a subject matter expert on

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<v Speaker 1>the issues related to COVID nineteen and hospital financing and funding.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though sometimes people get concerned that they might

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<v Speaker 1>not have all the money to finance pain, we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about all the different types of organizations that can help

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<v Speaker 1>you when you're considering running for office, and that at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point, money doesn't always do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you spend five hundred dollars on yard signs,

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<v Speaker 1>yard signs don't vote. They might get your information out

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<v Speaker 1>to a block of voters, but they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the polls to cast their ballot for you,

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<v Speaker 1>or do that from home. So running for office in

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<v Speaker 1>this digital space, in a highly polarized moment like now,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to use our own stories and just run

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<v Speaker 1>as we are, even if it doesn't pay much as

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<v Speaker 1>it relate to a salary. I always help young people

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<v Speaker 1>understand this, How different would it be if you graduated

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<v Speaker 1>from high school you had no sex education Because we

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<v Speaker 1>are of course a absent and only state, and you

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<v Speaker 1>ran for school board and one you would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to change your comprehensive sexual education policies, therefore helping teenage pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>therefore helping community resources all kinds of things. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have to just think differently about who makes up those

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<v Speaker 1>seats and not feel as though they're going to challenge

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<v Speaker 1>us right when it happens. People want to hear the

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<v Speaker 1>truth right now, when people run for office, and the

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<v Speaker 1>season is happening. Qualifying in Georgia is in August, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just three months away, And if I can be

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<v Speaker 1>of help to anyone, please reach out directly. Codifying conspiracies

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<v Speaker 1>has increasingly become the norm in American politics. Just as false,

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<v Speaker 1>racialized accusations of voter fraud increased in the Trump era,

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<v Speaker 1>there was also an increase in scaremongering around immigration, especially

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<v Speaker 1>at the southern border. But this othering of immigrants was

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<v Speaker 1>not new under Trump. It started decades earlier, fed into

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<v Speaker 1>and encouraged by popular white nationalism. This is how a

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<v Speaker 1>man like Joe R. Pio ended up being elected sheriff

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<v Speaker 1>of Maricopa County in Arizona back in nineteen ninety two

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping that position until finally being voted out in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen. If you remember R. Pio was also Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's first presidential pardon after his policies and programs became

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<v Speaker 1>the subject of legal scrutiny. I invited Jude Joffey Block,

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<v Speaker 1>associated Press reporter and co author of the new book

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<v Speaker 1>Driving While Brown Sheriff Joe Arpile Versus the Latino Resistance

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<v Speaker 1>onto Woke af Daily this week to take a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive into how he gained power, the abuses he carried

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<v Speaker 1>out with that power, and what led to the reckoning

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimate pardon under the Trump presidency. You can hear

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<v Speaker 1>her full breakdown of Arpio's twisted legacy right now on

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<v Speaker 1>my Patreon at patreon dot com slash woke a f.

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<v Speaker 1>I also asked Jude how the wave that finally voted

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<v Speaker 1>out Sheriff Joe ties into Arizona going blue for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in over a half century. Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona became a really a kind of interesting place right

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, much in the same way as Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona for the first time went blue. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>make sense of how something like that could happen in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, but they produce a man like Joe are

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<v Speaker 1>a pie? I mean I guess it's the same question

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<v Speaker 1>of how can this country both give us Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 1>and Donald Trump. I have no idea is the great

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<v Speaker 1>paradox of our times, but humor me, how did how

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<v Speaker 1>did Arizona get to this place? They're actually really connected.

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<v Speaker 1>So the grassroots organizing that starts happening in Arizona, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just our Pile, but our Pile is a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. It's also Arizona's laws that are aimed

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<v Speaker 1>at criminalizing immigrants and that many Latinos also feel like

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<v Speaker 1>cause them to fall under suspicion as well. People will

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<v Speaker 1>remember Senate Bill ten seventy that Arizona passed in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>ten that was mostly gutted by courts, but still some

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<v Speaker 1>parts of art in effect today. So these laws and

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<v Speaker 1>our pio's tactics and rhetoric created a backlash, and so

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<v Speaker 1>there was organizing on the ground that started getting young

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<v Speaker 1>people to register people to vote, canvassing neighborhoods. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole generation of people in their twenties who have been

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<v Speaker 1>knocking on doors registering voters since like two, ten, eleven, twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you know, there seasoned adults and they they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty savvy at running political campaigns. So what we see

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<v Speaker 1>is this building clout among Latino voters, voters of color,

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<v Speaker 1>voters who didn't used to be engaged, rising each cycle

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<v Speaker 1>after Joe our Pile was defeated because this movement really

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<v Speaker 1>rallied in twenty sixteen to defeat our Pile. Hump was

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<v Speaker 1>elected that cycle and he won in Maricopa County, but

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<v Speaker 1>our Pile lost by thirteen points in Maricopa County that

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<v Speaker 1>year in twenty sixteen, after you know, being in office

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty four years. So the same folks who were

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<v Speaker 1>organizing on the ground continued in twenty eighteen, and they

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<v Speaker 1>continued in twenty twenty, and we've seen a shift, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's there are other factors as well. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of engagement among the indigenous vote in Arizona. There

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<v Speaker 1>were sewn McCain style Republicans who were just attacted with Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>There were suburban women who turned against Trump. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there were California implant transplants who had moved to Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>and started to vote in a more democratic way. But

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<v Speaker 1>this movement and the engagement of young people, the engagement

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<v Speaker 1>of more voters of color, and the kind of on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground work what you hear from people who were

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<v Speaker 1>involved in that. They say, once people saw we could

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<v Speaker 1>defeat Joe Arpaio in twenty sixteen, that opened their eyes

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<v Speaker 1>that their vote mattered, that elections matter, and that they

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<v Speaker 1>could actually defeat Trump. And so there is a direct

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<v Speaker 1>connection between this whole saga of what everyone lived through

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<v Speaker 1>under Maricopa County under Joe our pile, with the politics

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<v Speaker 1>of Arizona today. Where do you think that we go

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<v Speaker 1>from here? This is a huge, nightmarish legacy that our

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<v Speaker 1>pile has. We have, you know, children that still need

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<v Speaker 1>to be united with their families. We have detention centers

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<v Speaker 1>across this country that are still overflowing with undocumented people.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an immigration crisis where we can't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>no administration, Obama, not Bush, not Clinton, has been able

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<v Speaker 1>to not Trump has been able to do anything about

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<v Speaker 1>how we create a humane right immigration system. Where do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that we go from here? And what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think this administration, the Biden Harris team will do

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<v Speaker 1>in the coming months and coming years. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great question. I think. I mean, what we

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<v Speaker 1>hope to do in the book is lay the groundwork,

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<v Speaker 1>so that if somebody wanted to be caught up on

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<v Speaker 1>k where the immigration reform debate started in sort of

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<v Speaker 1>modern history in the last few decades, where it started

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<v Speaker 1>and where it is today. We tried to give that

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<v Speaker 1>context in the book to catch people up to this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have President Biden who's made a campaign promise

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<v Speaker 1>to tackle immigration reform, which is something that has been

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<v Speaker 1>really impossible for anyone to do for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what I see in Arizona is that

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<v Speaker 1>there are newly engaged voters and people who have been

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the political process and have been inspired to

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<v Speaker 1>be involved, and are have been on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>helping Democrats get elected. If Democrats continue to not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to deliver on immigration reform, I do wonder what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen, you know, to the same political factors

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<v Speaker 1>that are a play right now. If this goal of

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<v Speaker 1>immigration reform seems like it's never going to happen, it

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<v Speaker 1>could kind of change the calculus of how the politics

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<v Speaker 1>are working out on the ground. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that will be interesting to watch because certainly

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening at the border does make it politically a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more complicated for the Biden administration to move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that we're seeing already how the issue

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<v Speaker 1>of what's happening at the border is being politicized. That

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<v Speaker 1>there's rhetoric around a lot of rhetoric around fear and

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<v Speaker 1>criminality and threats to Americans as part of the larger

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that we're seeing about what's going on. And that

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<v Speaker 1>same rhetoric kind of was something we saw in Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>at the height of that enforcement. The equation of immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>with criminality has deep consequences for the kinds of politics

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<v Speaker 1>and policies that step forward from that. The myriad of

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<v Speaker 1>problems that we are facing today go back decades to

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<v Speaker 1>the right wing, white nationalist conspiracies that have been codified

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<v Speaker 1>into law. We need to call out these policies for

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<v Speaker 1>what they are, racist laws created by and for racist Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>We can do better, and we need to do better,

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<v Speaker 1>or else America's lost to the worst among us. I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you every week that it is important not to

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<v Speaker 1>give up hope, but hope is not enough without a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Wherever you are in this vascination, get connected with your

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<v Speaker 1>community and get to work organizing for a better tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>The more of us there are, the harder it is

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<v Speaker 1>for them to say no, to say things can't change,

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<v Speaker 1>to say that this is the way it has always been,

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't and it doesn't have to be. As always,

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