1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to woke f with me Danielle Moody. With the 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: first one hundred days of the Biden Harris administration behind us, 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: it's time to look forward to the many fights for 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: justice that are still ahead of us. One battle that 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: grassroots activists have been fighting for almost a decade is 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: the battle to renew and restore voting rights after the 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen Shelby County de Holder decision gutted the Voting 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: Rights Act of nineteen sixty five. A focal point for 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: this struggle is in the state of Georgia, where leaders 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: like Stacy Abrahams have been working tirelessly to activate more 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: voters and attain proper representation in government. Last month, Georgia's 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: state representative part Cannon was arrested and charged with two 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: felony counts simply for doing her job and knocking on 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: the door of the illegitimate governor, Brian Kemp and demanding 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: he not signed away Georgian's rights behind closed doors. Representative 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: Canon join me this week on woke af Daily to 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: tell her story and talk about the gains that activists 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: have made on the ground in Georgia and the many 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: obstacles that had yet to be overcome. You can hear 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: our full half hour conversation about her experience being arrested 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: and charged, why more marginalized people need to be running 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: for office in local communities and more by supporting me 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: on Patreon at patreon dot com slash woke af for 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: right Now. Here's my question to Georgia's state representative part 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Cannon on why and how Georgia became a centerpiece in 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: the fight for voting rights in America. What is really 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: interesting and maybe this is something that obviously, because you've 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: been working in Georgia for a quite some time now, 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: that you've seen coming but the rest of the country 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: did not. Right, Georgia has become a lightning rod in 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: so many different ways because of the hard and tireless 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: work of extraordinary activists and politicians like yourself that have 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: been due the work to elevate the voices of black 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: and brown people that are in that state. You know, 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: this piece of legislation that was signed into law by 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Governor Kemp is based on a lie, right, just like 37 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: the over two hundred pieces of legislation that are now 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: in over forty states in this country based on a lie. 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: And I want to know, where do you think that 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: we head now, knowing that we are just, you know, 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: months shy of beginning midterm elections in this country where 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: there are elections that are happening all the time. We 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: know that Governor Kemp is being sued right again for 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: the actions that he has taken. But where do you 45 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: see Georgia moving now? As it pertains to voting rights. 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Georgia is already voting in record numbers and voters have 47 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: actually gone through whatever coping mechanisms that they need to 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: access the ballot. When we talk about Georgians turning the 49 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: state blue, many times it's talked about as this idea 50 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: happened overnight. It really didn't. Years and years of trauma 51 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: informed practices by voting rights groups saying, Wow, you're having 52 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: some issue with transportation to get to the polling place. 53 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: We will help you with that. Geez, you're thirsty or 54 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: hungry from standing in this six hour line, will provide 55 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: you with some refreshments. Oh wow, you are experiencing COVID 56 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: nineteen and you're trying to figure how to get your 57 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: ballot to you and back in. Who can sign for you? 58 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: Who can help you? Will help you with a hotline. 59 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: So Georgians have already been working towards stopping what they 60 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: have done the GOP, which is caught defying conspiracies. When 61 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: you spotify a conspiracy and you turn it into state law, 62 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: you enact so many different officers who believe that they 63 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: are the protector of the vote to do things that 64 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: will disempower people from voting. There are two pieces of 65 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: Senate Bill two O two that I really want Georgians 66 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: to take in consideration and have a strategy for. The 67 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: first one is now any old person in Georgia can 68 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: put in an unlimited number of petitions to people's voter registrations. 69 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: We saw this in twenty eighteen. We wrote a whole 70 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: movie about it, documentary and screened it. It's called Suppressed 71 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: with Brave New Films. And what we explained there was 72 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: there was this gentleman who lived in a rural community 73 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: and he felt like people with these different last names 74 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: with hyphens in their last names, that they weren't real people. 75 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: So he would go up to the elections boards meetings 76 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: that really no one else attended, and he would submit 77 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: the number of petitions he could submit for that day 78 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: and next month he would go back and do it again. 79 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: Now that same person is going to have the power 80 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: to be the voter registrations are And you don't even 81 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: know us, you don't know who we are, but we 82 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: know strategy is. So that's the first issue. The second 83 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: is the human rights violations that are codified by criminality. 84 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: You can face a misdemeanor now for helping someone get 85 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: food or water in line. What So, we are trying 86 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: as Georgians to help the country understand that these factions 87 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: and these bills and policies didn't just happen overnight. They 88 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: have been working on these four years. So we want 89 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: other states to go ahead and sure up voter rights, 90 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: even if it's in a small subsection, the criminality section, 91 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: the mail in ballot, the in person voting, the absentee, 92 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: whatever it is, sure up voting rights before conspiracies become codified, 93 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. And if there is anything that the 94 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 1: Republican Party has become the master of, it is codifying conspiracies. 95 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: Right now in Arizona, they are doing yet another audit 96 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: on the twenty twenty election that is being overseen by 97 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: oa N News, you know, the Trump News channel. As 98 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: if that is bipartisan or non party. I feel like 99 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: we are living in a parallel universe. One of the 100 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: other things. You know, you started off saying that you 101 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: were the youngest representative to be elected in Georgia, and 102 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I think that that is extraordinary. I remember when you 103 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: were first running, we were also excited. I mean, as 104 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: a black queer woman like I was just let go, 105 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: girl go. You know, whatever can be done should be done. 106 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: You've written a book entitled The Universal Guide for Running 107 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: for Office at the State level. Why do you still 108 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: believe that folks like us should be running for office 109 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: given all that we're up against. Should we be in 110 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: the streets, should we be in the c suites? Should 111 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: we be in state office? Why do you think it's 112 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: important that we run? All of it? But what I 113 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: will say about this message of running for office is 114 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: the most important piece of it is recognizing that you 115 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: are going to run as you are. So if you 116 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: are a CEO already or you've been working in McDonald's, 117 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: you're going to need to run as you are. You're 118 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: going to have to go back through those photo albums 119 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: and ask your family members, why were we living there, 120 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: what were we doing, who was working where and how 121 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: do we get to this place where half of our 122 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: family didn't vote in this one specific election. There's going 123 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: to have to be a really deep dive that people do, 124 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: and I use the Universal Guide to Running for Office 125 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: to explore that, to help people break it down and 126 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: to make it actionable. I have a whole mess at 127 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: the end of it of affirmation pages where I have 128 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: you and then you affirm yourselves, and you keep that 129 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: going so that as you're out there on the campaign trail, 130 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: you're able to say, I understand legislating uber and lyft 131 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: because I take uber and lyft more differently than maybe 132 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: some of my seventy eight eighty year old colleagues. So 133 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: I am a subject matter expert in this conversation. Or 134 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: if you've been working at McDonald's, you understand food safety guidelines, 135 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: you understand osha, you understand all of these different micro 136 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: situations that make you the perfect to run for office, 137 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: that actually help you see your power in the place. 138 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: Everyone can talk about balancing the state budget, maybe they 139 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: want money for their hospitals, But if you're a black 140 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: woman and you're a healthcare worker in Georgia, you should 141 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: be running for office. You were the number one type 142 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: of person in the clinical settings contracting COVID nineteen during 143 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: this pandemic. So you are a subject matter expert on 144 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: the issues related to COVID nineteen and hospital financing and funding. 145 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: So even though sometimes people get concerned that they might 146 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: not have all the money to finance pain, we talk 147 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: about all the different types of organizations that can help 148 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: you when you're considering running for office, and that at 149 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: a certain point, money doesn't always do it. You know, 150 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: even if you spend five hundred dollars on yard signs, 151 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: yard signs don't vote. They might get your information out 152 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: to a block of voters, but they're not going to 153 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: go to the polls to cast their ballot for you, 154 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: or do that from home. So running for office in 155 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: this digital space, in a highly polarized moment like now, 156 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: we have to use our own stories and just run 157 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: as we are, even if it doesn't pay much as 158 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: it relate to a salary. I always help young people 159 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: understand this, How different would it be if you graduated 160 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: from high school you had no sex education Because we 161 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: are of course a absent and only state, and you 162 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: ran for school board and one you would be able 163 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: to change your comprehensive sexual education policies, therefore helping teenage pregnancy, 164 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: therefore helping community resources all kinds of things. So we 165 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: have to just think differently about who makes up those 166 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: seats and not feel as though they're going to challenge 167 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: us right when it happens. People want to hear the 168 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: truth right now, when people run for office, and the 169 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: season is happening. Qualifying in Georgia is in August, which 170 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: is just three months away, And if I can be 171 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:16,479 Speaker 1: of help to anyone, please reach out directly. Codifying conspiracies 172 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: has increasingly become the norm in American politics. Just as false, 173 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: racialized accusations of voter fraud increased in the Trump era, 174 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: there was also an increase in scaremongering around immigration, especially 175 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: at the southern border. But this othering of immigrants was 176 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: not new under Trump. It started decades earlier, fed into 177 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: and encouraged by popular white nationalism. This is how a 178 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: man like Joe R. Pio ended up being elected sheriff 179 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: of Maricopa County in Arizona back in nineteen ninety two 180 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: and keeping that position until finally being voted out in 181 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. If you remember R. Pio was also Donald 182 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: Trump's first presidential pardon after his policies and programs became 183 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: the subject of legal scrutiny. I invited Jude Joffey Block, 184 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: associated Press reporter and co author of the new book 185 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 1: Driving While Brown Sheriff Joe Arpile Versus the Latino Resistance 186 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: onto Woke af Daily this week to take a deep 187 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: dive into how he gained power, the abuses he carried 188 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: out with that power, and what led to the reckoning 189 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: and ultimate pardon under the Trump presidency. You can hear 190 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: her full breakdown of Arpio's twisted legacy right now on 191 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: my Patreon at patreon dot com slash woke a f. 192 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: I also asked Jude how the wave that finally voted 193 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: out Sheriff Joe ties into Arizona going blue for the 194 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: first time in over a half century. Take a listen. 195 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: Arizona became a really a kind of interesting place right 196 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, much in the same way as Georgia. 197 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: Arizona for the first time went blue. How do you 198 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: make sense of how something like that could happen in 199 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, but they produce a man like Joe are 200 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: a pie? I mean I guess it's the same question 201 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: of how can this country both give us Barack Obama 202 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump. I have no idea is the great 203 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: paradox of our times, but humor me, how did how 204 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: did Arizona get to this place? They're actually really connected. 205 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: So the grassroots organizing that starts happening in Arizona, it's 206 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: not just our Pile, but our Pile is a big 207 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: part of it. It's also Arizona's laws that are aimed 208 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: at criminalizing immigrants and that many Latinos also feel like 209 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: cause them to fall under suspicion as well. People will 210 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: remember Senate Bill ten seventy that Arizona passed in twenty 211 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: ten that was mostly gutted by courts, but still some 212 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: parts of art in effect today. So these laws and 213 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: our pio's tactics and rhetoric created a backlash, and so 214 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: there was organizing on the ground that started getting young 215 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: people to register people to vote, canvassing neighborhoods. There's a 216 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: whole generation of people in their twenties who have been 217 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: knocking on doors registering voters since like two, ten, eleven, twelve, 218 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: and now you know, there seasoned adults and they they're 219 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: pretty savvy at running political campaigns. So what we see 220 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: is this building clout among Latino voters, voters of color, 221 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: voters who didn't used to be engaged, rising each cycle 222 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: after Joe our Pile was defeated because this movement really 223 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: rallied in twenty sixteen to defeat our Pile. Hump was 224 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: elected that cycle and he won in Maricopa County, but 225 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: our Pile lost by thirteen points in Maricopa County that 226 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: year in twenty sixteen, after you know, being in office 227 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: for twenty four years. So the same folks who were 228 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: organizing on the ground continued in twenty eighteen, and they 229 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: continued in twenty twenty, and we've seen a shift, and 230 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: it's there are other factors as well. There was a 231 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: lot of engagement among the indigenous vote in Arizona. There 232 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: were sewn McCain style Republicans who were just attacted with Trump. 233 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: There were suburban women who turned against Trump. And then 234 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: there were California implant transplants who had moved to Arizona 235 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: and started to vote in a more democratic way. But 236 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,479 Speaker 1: this movement and the engagement of young people, the engagement 237 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: of more voters of color, and the kind of on 238 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: the ground work what you hear from people who were 239 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: involved in that. They say, once people saw we could 240 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: defeat Joe Arpaio in twenty sixteen, that opened their eyes 241 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: that their vote mattered, that elections matter, and that they 242 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: could actually defeat Trump. And so there is a direct 243 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: connection between this whole saga of what everyone lived through 244 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: under Maricopa County under Joe our pile, with the politics 245 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: of Arizona today. Where do you think that we go 246 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: from here? This is a huge, nightmarish legacy that our 247 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: pile has. We have, you know, children that still need 248 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: to be united with their families. We have detention centers 249 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: across this country that are still overflowing with undocumented people. 250 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: We have an immigration crisis where we can't seem to 251 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: no administration, Obama, not Bush, not Clinton, has been able 252 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: to not Trump has been able to do anything about 253 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: how we create a humane right immigration system. Where do 254 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: you think that we go from here? And what do 255 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: you think this administration, the Biden Harris team will do 256 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: in the coming months and coming years. Yeah, I mean 257 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: it's a great question. I think. I mean, what we 258 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: hope to do in the book is lay the groundwork, 259 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: so that if somebody wanted to be caught up on 260 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: k where the immigration reform debate started in sort of 261 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: modern history in the last few decades, where it started 262 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: and where it is today. We tried to give that 263 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: context in the book to catch people up to this moment. 264 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: And we have President Biden who's made a campaign promise 265 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: to tackle immigration reform, which is something that has been 266 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: really impossible for anyone to do for quite some time. 267 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: And I think what I see in Arizona is that 268 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: there are newly engaged voters and people who have been 269 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: involved in the political process and have been inspired to 270 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: be involved, and are have been on the side of 271 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: helping Democrats get elected. If Democrats continue to not be 272 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: able to deliver on immigration reform, I do wonder what's 273 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: going to happen, you know, to the same political factors 274 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: that are a play right now. If this goal of 275 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: immigration reform seems like it's never going to happen, it 276 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: could kind of change the calculus of how the politics 277 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: are working out on the ground. And so I think 278 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: that's something that will be interesting to watch because certainly 279 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: what's happening at the border does make it politically a 280 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: lot more complicated for the Biden administration to move forward. 281 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: And I think that we're seeing already how the issue 282 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: of what's happening at the border is being politicized. That 283 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: there's rhetoric around a lot of rhetoric around fear and 284 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: criminality and threats to Americans as part of the larger 285 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: conversation that we're seeing about what's going on. And that 286 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: same rhetoric kind of was something we saw in Arizona 287 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: at the height of that enforcement. The equation of immigrants 288 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: with criminality has deep consequences for the kinds of politics 289 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: and policies that step forward from that. The myriad of 290 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: problems that we are facing today go back decades to 291 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: the right wing, white nationalist conspiracies that have been codified 292 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: into law. We need to call out these policies for 293 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: what they are, racist laws created by and for racist Americans. 294 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: We can do better, and we need to do better, 295 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: or else America's lost to the worst among us. I 296 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: tell you every week that it is important not to 297 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: give up hope, but hope is not enough without a fight. 298 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: Wherever you are in this vascination, get connected with your 299 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: community and get to work organizing for a better tomorrow. 300 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: The more of us there are, the harder it is 301 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: for them to say no, to say things can't change, 302 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: to say that this is the way it has always been, 303 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: it hasn't and it doesn't have to be. 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