WEBVTT - Anna Cathcart of XO, Kitty 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:05.240 Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:09.920 me Tommy di Dario. So if you've turned on Netflix lately, 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.480 then you probably have seen the show XO Kitty sitting 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.680 in that coveted number one spot on the charts my 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.479 guest today while she is the star of Exokitty, the 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.560 wonderfully Talented an a Cafcart Now the series It's taken 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.319 over the world, first appearing in Netflix's top ten in 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.360 over ninety different countries when it's debuted, and it's a 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.960 spinoff of the streamer's wildly popular franchise To All the 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.520 Boys I've Loved Before, which was based on the best 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.960 selling young adult trilogy, of Course. So here's the backstory. 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:43.480 Anna plays eighteen matchmaker aka Kitty, who followed her heart 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.879 to an elite school in Soul. In season one, she 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.760 was on the quest for love. Now she's realizing that 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.519 life and love and family, well, as we all know, 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.960 it's way more complicated than she ever imagined. The series 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.400 is really cool because it's often praised for unpacking issues 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.480 that are top of mind for teens today. I mean 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.040 top of mind for a lot of people today, everything 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.560 from self acceptance to classes in too, sometimes complicated relationships 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.560 with parents, to discovering one sexuality and so much more. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.520 And Anna is the heart and soul of this show. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.880 And in this episode we get to celebrate her work 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.399 that means so much to so many, but we really 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.760 get to know who Anna is beyond the work that 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.240 she does. So let's see if today we can get 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.280 Anna to say something that she has never said before. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.959 Anna Cathcart, how you doing, my friend. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.319 I'm good. I'm so excited. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:41.360 Welcome to New York. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.160 Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me on 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:43.520 a show. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.040 Oh my god, You've come with an entourage. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.400 I have my fam here supporting me, which I'm very 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.800 lucky to have. It always helps, like have them on 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:51.600 these work trips. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.560 So I love that I'm an Italian boy from New Jersey, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.720 so like Italians like to travel in packs too, So 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.760 if like everyone could be in this room right now, they. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.000 Would totally no. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.000 I feel like my family to say, I'm like anywhere 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.880 they can come to, please bring them, that would be great. 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.080 Oh that's amazing. Well, welcome to New York. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:08.560 Thank you. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.800 We have so much to cover today. Congratulations on season 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.880 two of the show. It's it's amazing. It's amazing. Is 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.080 it weird? Every time turning on Netflix and seeing it 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.919 in like the number one spot, there's there's my face. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.160 It's so surreal. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.079 I still think like I don't know if it will 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.680 ever become normal, Like that feeling is so strange. And 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.800 it will sometimes come up like in the background, like 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.480 our TV will just be on and it'll come like 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.000 the preview of like oh, the new season just came 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.720 out whatever, and like like, that's that's me, that's there 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.639 I am. And like the weird thing is to think 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.600 about all the other TVs it's showing up. I'm like, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.519 there's one of my friends like freaked me out the 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:41.959 other day, like the best way possible. But she was like, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:43.400 you know how many people have Netflix and how many 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.160 people you look up to who have Netflix. She was like, Anna, 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.119 you could be like on Tom Holland TV, Like unintentionally, 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.520 I'm sure he's not, you know, an Exo Kitty's biggest fan, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.000 but who knows. You never know it would be on 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.919 his Netflix screen. I'm like, that's so weird. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:56.880 Like my face is just out there in the world. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:58.680 It's very, very wild, very surreal. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.079 Did you ever dream that you would be offered your 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.840 own spin off series. When you were in the movies, 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.520 you know, to all the boys about franchise, and then 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.600 suddenly you're getting a call like, hey, we want you 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.320 to lead your own show. I mean, have you wrapped 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:13.800 your head around that by season two? 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.200 No, I honestly still haven't. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.240 I feel like that sounds so cheesy, like it's just 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.920 like such a dream and doesn't feel real. But honestly, truly, 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.880 like when they first came up with the idea, I 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.679 thought it was joke. Like I think people say that 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:25.919 all the time, like, oh, we should do a spin 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.640 off for like, oh, we love this character, but like 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:29.840 you never, I don't know. I don't take it seriously, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.120 especially with this industry, like everything is like never one 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.880 hundred percent for real, Like you can't Like I'm always 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.640 like I try to have trust issues honestly from this 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.080 job of being like, well like who knows until I'm 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.400 actually on set standing there, I don't believe it. And 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:43.840 this was totally one of those cases that it was 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.080 so many years of talking about it and hearing different things, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:47.760 and then the day that I was actually on the 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.720 plane going to Korea during season one, I was just 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.040 like this is this is for real? 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:52.680 Like, I still like it hasn't sunk in. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.640 Wow, that's humble though you're humble. You're a humble person. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.440 So I'm sure maybe it won't ever sink in until 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.000 you're done and you'll be like, oh I did that. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.040 Yeah, when you look back on it in reflection, I 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.480 think it will sink in maybe in ten years, like, yeah. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.920 Good for you. That's amazing. Well, and what's so fascinating 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.520 to me with somebody like you as you're an artist 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.360 who very much has grown up in the spotlight, right, 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.480 Like you've grown up on camera. We've all gotten to 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.120 watch you grow up, and this is a very unconventional experience. 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.800 Most people grow up in the privacy of their own life, right, 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.440 So what's been the best part about that for you? 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:24.960 I mean, I think when I was a kid, like 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.279 when I was very young, I had dreamed about this 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.919 idea of becoming an actor, but it felt so surreal 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.719 and like not not reachable, like it was. I often 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.600 compare it to a kid wanting to be an astronaut, 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.800 or like dreaming of doing something just feels like that 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.920 only happens in dreamland. It's it's not like a true career, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.839 So getting to achieve it as a kid in that mindset, 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.120 I think there was something really special where for many 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.360 years it was never a job. I didn't see it 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.400 as like, this is what I do for work. I'm like, 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.320 I'm twelve, this is what I do for fun, and 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.880 this is like this is so unbelievable that getting to 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.880 experience it in that stage when it wasn't really like 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.440 work yet, I think that was really special and really 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.280 valuable because it taught me so many things about like 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.200 why I'm passionate about this and why I love it, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.880 and the pressures that you experienced in this industry as 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.640 an adult. I was lucky to not have those as 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.280 a kid, and I was really like fortunate to meet 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.480 good people as at a young age, because I know 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.760 it can obviously be a scary industry as well as 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:17.719 a young person. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.800 But I was really lucky to have that. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.760 So I just think getting to enter it at the 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.800 stage that I did was really beneficial for me. And 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.800 it kind of happened in a gradual way as well. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.000 I was just talking about this with my mom actually yesterday, 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.839 saying that my career kind of happened in a linear 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.200 fashion of it like the recognition I got at the 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.120 very start versus the recognition I got three years in, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.120 four years in now nine years in. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.800 Was never like no one knew you. The next day 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:41.520 the whole world knew you. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.320 I think that would have been really overwhelming to handle, 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.680 or like starting off with a really big project, a 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.000 really big budget like network would be really scary. But 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.200 I kind of did it in a gradual fashion that 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.400 I was lucky to kind of ease my way into 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:52.760 it a bit. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.080 So I love looking back on it. 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.320 I just can't believe that, I don't know, the stuffs 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.560 that we took to get here was crazy. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.480 So it's so interesting. That's such an interesting perspective that, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.839 you know, you feel like had it been that overnight 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.160 kind of success or fame, it would have been a 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:08.400 different experience for you. 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:09.640 Yeah, no, exactly. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.480 Probably overwhelming for sure. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.080 I think I'm already quite overwhelmed and by this, and like, 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.240 I can't imagine for so many people when it is 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.159 that that way, when it is just like a one 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.760 like one hit blows up, everything goes crazy. I think, Yeah, 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.640 the like gradual entry of it was really helpful. 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:30.080 So what's been the more challenging aspect of that, I think. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.040 Like balancing high school and regular life. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.919 I was really determined to like stay in regular public 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.039 school and stay at home and be with my family 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.920 because I've always school's really important to me. I always 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.080 want to go to university after high school, and I 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.480 didn't want to lose that just because I was an actor. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.040 And to keep that balance throughout so many years, starting 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.680 when you're so young, I think that was hard for sure, 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.359 But I also find it like because I had started 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.000 in elementary school, doing college now at the same time 0:06:58.080 --> 0:06:59.880 almost makes it easier. That was like my trial run 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.360 have so many years, but it is weird. It's a 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.840 lot of pressures that you might not normally experience obviously 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.160 as like a regular high schooler. So there's a lot 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.040 of interesting parts that come with this job. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:10.440 For sure. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.600 I imagine you have to keep yourself very grounded and 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.960 surround yourself with people who you know genuinely have your 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.080 best interest, right m. 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.480 I think staying in Vancouver, which is where I was 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.560 born and where I was like where I grew up, 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.720 staying there has definitely helped as well to have a 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.200 grounding space and to kind of come back to, like 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:28.120 I don't. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.160 Know what our family sees as like real life. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.400 Sometimes, especially during high school, I kind of had my 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.640 like a plot B plot of I would go and 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.640 do my work life and go to LA and do 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.400 some event and then come home to like a math 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.080 test and just have to be a regular kid. And 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.240 I think having that was very grounding and helped a lot. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.000 And I still try and keep that in my life 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.200 right now. But for sure, family has been a huge, 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:46.760 huge part. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.800 Listen, mom did a good job. Mom did a good job. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.480 I'm looking at her right now, probably from mom. I 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.960 love that. All right, So here we go back to 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.800 you landing this amazing show. You get the call. You're 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.080 the lead, obviously, Ilana Kundor when the movies was the 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.840 lead of those. Did you turn to her for any 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.360 advice when you got this? Do you still turn to 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.000 her for advice? Has she been like a mentor towards you? 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:10.960 What's that relationship? 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:11.160 Like? 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:12.600 Yeah, so funny. 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.640 But I actually saw her today for the first time 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.760 in a really long time, which was an amazing reunion. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.640 But definitely when the movies were happening, I was in 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.240 a very formative years of my life. It was the 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.320 summer between grade eight and grade nine is when we 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.240 shot the first twell the Boys, and I was learning 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.960 to become a teenager and looking up to these people 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.040 that were such amazing role models. To have that whole 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.920 cast who were all like five seven years older than me, 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.839 that was so formative for me looking back, just as 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.559 a person and as an actor, to learn like what 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.320 it meant to do this profession, what it meant to 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.080 be adult a teenager. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:46.840 Like, just to have them as. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.880 Like guiding lights was really huge, and still to have 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.440 them now is everything. 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:52.840 And to have Janelle as well. 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.720 Who was on this season, which was so special, and 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.400 just to like have them as role models truly has 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:58.720 made a really big impat. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.920 Can you think of a single piece of advice that 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.880 is stuck with you from any of them? 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.800 Yeah? I think something that Lana had taught me as 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.120 well as Janelle was the power of setting boundaries and 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.120 the power of learning when it's okay to say no, 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.559 when it's okay to put yourself first, and that you're 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.400 allowed to want your rest and you're allowed to just 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.840 like figuring out that balance of I think this is 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.880 a really taxing industry at times, and though we all 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.920 love it, so much and it's our dream to be here. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.079 It can be super exhausting. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:29.960 It's okay to take a step back and like acknowledge 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.280 that and not feel ungrateful, because I think I often 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.240 get worried that like this is a job that so 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:36.960 many people would die to do, or like I'm like, oh, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:38.599 I'm so great, like I should be so lucky, Like 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.200 why am I complaining if I'm tired? I'm like, there's there's. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.120 Those can both coexist. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.600 You can be super grateful but also want to like 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:46.480 take a nap, like you can be really tired. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.560 That's okay, this is a lot. 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.559 And like think both of them were really great at 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.000 helping me realize that and learn that. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.679 Isn't it funny how uncomfortable sometimes we feel saying no 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:57.960 or setting a boundary why right? 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.280 For sure, I really struggle with that in a lot 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.520 of aspects of my life, but definitely with work, because 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.959 I also want to stay motivated, want to take the 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.440 next step, always keep going, but learning when it's way 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.680 more beneficial to say no, And that can be a 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.280 hard thing to teach your brain because you like more 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.360 is more. I'm like sometimes less is more, Like you 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.240 need to have the space for yourself to something I 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.480 remind myself to, like, I don't know, stay, stay as 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.520 calm as possible, to like, you need the rest so 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.520 you can do well and all the good things that 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.040 you get the chance to do. And if you never 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.840 take that rest, everything will be at fifty percent, and 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.520 that's not what we want either. And yeah, I think 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.120 that I really tried to learn when I was younger, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:35.920 and it's definitely helped. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.240 Yeah, because if your cup isn't filled all the way 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:39.760 to the top, how can you go out and do 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:41.360 your best work, or be a best friend, or be 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.680 a best daughter, be the best version of yourself? 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:44.400 Right exactly. 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.760 Sometimes taking rest can be like the most productive thing 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.920 to do, which is a hard thing to. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:49.080 Teach your brain. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.280 I am so jealous you've learned this at this point 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.079 of your life, because here I am at thirty and 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.319 I'm like still trying to learn it and remember it. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.000 And you know, in this industry, as we all know, 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.080 it's hard. It's hard in any industry, but it's something 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.880 you have to kind of keep reminding yourself up of, right, mm. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.600 Hmmm, No, Yeah, it's an ongoing process. We're definitely still 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:07.320 in the thick of it. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.280 Yeah, for sure, for sure. So the new season is out, 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.280 how do you handle public reception? Like, are you someone 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:15.839 who reads comments? 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:15.960 Like? 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.640 Are you browsing the blogs? Or blogs still a thing? 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:19.720 Do your blogs exist? 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:20.400 Probably? 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.400 Okay, the blogs, the Internet, the Facebook of the Instagram 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.760 and the TikTok but all of that, are you browsing 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.800 all of that? And like seeing what people are saying? 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.360 I think it's so hard not to. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.880 I found myself with especially in the first few days 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.000 when the show just came out, going on TikTok and 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.480 searching excitaty and seeing the different edits and seeing people 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.880 because it was so exciting to see that the different 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.880 fans around the world are putting in their own time 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.200 and energy to create like collages of things or fun 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.719 edits or their theories of what could be happening, or 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.800 reading between the lines of specific scenes. And it's so 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.000 cool to see people invested in our characters and in 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.920 our show to the extent that they would make something 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.040 online is so cool to see. So I definitely will 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.760 get sucked into, like just scrolling on TikTok, so people 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.200 are making it. It's know that I see them and 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:03.040 I appreciate them. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:03.880 They mean a lot to me. 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.480 But sometimes I do think there's a point. Now, I'm like, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.600 my for you page is just like me and my friends. 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:10.360 I'm like, I don't know if that's the healthiest thing 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.480 to be scrolling on, like as soon as you wake up, 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.920 before you go to bed, all images of it, Like 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.679 that's that's really interesting. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:25.480 Yeah, yeah, So how do you know when to pull 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.720 back from it? Because I imagine it can be a little 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.079 bit of a you know, it could trick your mind 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:32.679 a little bit like are people saying good things? Are 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.520 they saying bad things? You know? I'm sure every once 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.760 in a while not great comment pops up totally. How 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.640 do you protect yourself while also enjoying the journey of 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.839 celebrating what you've accomplished and what you're doing. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.440 Honestly, that is a great question that I'm still trying 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.480 to find the answer to. I think something that's really 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.240 interesting about our brains is you could see one hundred 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:53.959 good comments, but one bad one is. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.760 Going to stick with you alas always. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.360 And I always try and tell myself, like the fact 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.040 that I can see something that is so positive and 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:01.559 so kind, I'm like, oh, I don't know how much 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.520 they mean it, like they're just being nice, they just 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.200 want to say that. But if I see a negative comment, 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.679 I'm like, no, that is one hundred percent true, and 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.480 I'm sure they meant it with like every ants like 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.920 that's that right there? Shows how like fickle that is, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.920 and that's just like made up of me focusing on 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.240 the negatives that I'm definitely in the process of figuring 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.319 that out, but I'm lucky for the most part. I 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.840 think the reception is really positive and Exo Kittie fans 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.719 are very warm, welcoming people. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:23.720 So it's a good community. 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.960 No, what I announced you as my guest that we 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.720 were going to be recording, people went crazy, like crazy, 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.280 I'm like, are they going to show up? Like I 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:31.920 was a little worried about it for a minute, But 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.600 there's a lot of love for the show and for you, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.240 and for good reason. I think what you guys put 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.960 out is so meaningful for so many different reasons, which 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.240 we'll get to this season. You're very vulnerable, Yeah we 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.360 see you cry quite a bit. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.320 Yeah that was new for me. Yeah, I've never really 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.599 had to do that on screen. And Kitty got a 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.959 little bit emotional at the end of season one and 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.160 when she was figuring out her sexuality and coming to 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.560 that journey, that was the most vulnerable we've seen her. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.040 But this season and we go through that a. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.360 Lot more of her kind of at her horror, crying 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.480 or breaking down or questioning things and wondering if she 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:05.080 messed up. 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.160 And I think something that I love about Kitty is 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:07.920 she's very brave. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.040 She's very courageous with her heart and she just like 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.040 goes for it. She goes after what she wants. So 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.360 to see someone with that personality trait question things and 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.760 not always be strong, I think it's just as important 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.080 and I think a really cool journey that fans get 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.960 to see her on this season. So that was kind 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:24.640 of nerve wracking for me too, though because I didn't. 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.560 I'm not as comfortable in that space. I've done a 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.880 lot of comedy in my past, and that is something 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.000 I'm really confident and love to explore with. But being 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.760 vulnerable and like crying on camera for the first time 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.800 and learning how to access as emotions, that was something 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.200 new for me, which I'm happy happy I got the chance. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.480 Was it weird for you to get into that zone, 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.040 like the first day you knew, Okay, I have a 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.600 really emotional scene coming up. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:45.440 I was so nervous. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.680 Yeah, yes, I will say I was so nervous. I 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.600 had like my headphones and I'm like asking all my 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.160 actual friends, like what do you do when you have 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.840 to cry? Or like literally looking up on Google, like 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.560 how do you make yourself cracks? Like accessing the emotions 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.800 like in your performance and your tone of voice. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:01.880 That's one thing, and that's. 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.560 Something that like I find really fun to deal with 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.240 and figure out. But the actual like act of creating tears, 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.520 it's so hard for me. It's something that was really 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.840 really stressful. And then also not like not being hard 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:15.520 on yourself, because I think I would get really. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.320 Like why can I do this? Like I want to be. 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:18.760 An actor, this is something that I should be able 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.560 to do, and I don't know. It is a tough 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.240 thing that I'm definitely learning. And it was interesting I 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.720 used like a tearstick for the first time, or a 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.160 tear like it's like this little mechanism like blow air 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.880 into your eye and that like all these tools to 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.160 help you that I'd never really used before. So that 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.560 was that was a really cool thing for Kitty and me. 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:41.960 Yeah, And what's so cool is you're ever growing, ever changing, right, So, 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.400 like that's a new experience for you right now, but 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.160