1 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet weirl, and welcome to the No Dungs 2 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, April twenty eighth. 3 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: We're here back in the Classic Factory. I'm Jay Skeets, 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: and alongside me, as always, we've got Trey Kirby. 5 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Hey, hey it's here. I'm like losing my ears. I 6 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: got got chords everywhere. There's too much stuff. 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: On these skeetsos at. 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 9 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Right now, we got the international man of mystery taking 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: it to the Max Lee Ellis Friends. And finally the 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: man making the magic happen, super producer JD. Hello, there 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: is and here we are. Man, what are you serious? 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: It's a I don't know. I don't know. I think 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: my ears are not the right size my ear right now. 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm like a small medium. I'm a medium in ears, 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: so sometimes they just fall out. And once this one 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: fell out, it was like for. 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Those listening to the podcast, Yeah, Trey is flustered. Right now, 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: the cords man tries and gets his headphones in order. 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 5: Here. 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: If you're wondering where Tass is, he's in Vegas still. 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: I believe he had the John Legend concert last night, 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: so I can't wait to get his report on tomorrow. 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: Show test should be back for the Drop podcast here 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory. Shout out to a stream team though, 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: joining us live right now on YouTube, Subscribe, like, comment, 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: share the show. Email in your NBA questions to No 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: Dunks at the Athletic dot com. And if you're a 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Survivor fan and you caught last night's episode, join us 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: later today here in the Classic Factory. Over on the 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: No Buffs YouTube feed around what two pm Eastern? I 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: think sure, I call it early afternoon. The no bus 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: YouTube feed turned that into a podcast. No Buffs has 34 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: its own separate feed. A fascinating wild episode last night. 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: Lots to break down from that one, episode nine, so 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: we'll get into that later. But we got a leggie, guys, 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Weggie number forty one, Sergia Baka sending the bulls packing 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: with a weggie for their troubles. Here he is in 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: the corner thirty three seconds to go in the game, 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: sticks to corner, Wedgie, That one really stuck. Yeah, yeah, 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: that's a deep, deep wedging. Hey, what's up, Saracus Stark? 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: So that is leggie number forty one on the season 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: second of the playoffs And yeah, maybe one of the 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: more entertaining things from that game last night. But let's 45 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: get into it. Bucks crust the Bowls one sixteen one 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: hundred in Game five and they will advance to face 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: the Celtics. We'll get into that series and talk about 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Buck Celtics in the second round. But thoughts on the 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: game and your Bulls here. 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: This was a game. Yeah, not a lot to say 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: about this one. The Bulls took a one point lead 52 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: two minutes in. That was the last time they led 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: down sixteen after the first quarter. The Bucks stretched it 54 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: out to twenty nine midway through the first half. Somehow, 55 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: this is only a sixteen point victory for the Bucks, 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: so it looks a little better for the Bulls. But 57 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: basically what the series broke breaks down to is Chicago 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: played really well in Milwaukee. The Bucks lost Game two, 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: they lost Chris Middleton and said this series is over. 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: Jannis really put his foot down. I thought in this 61 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: one thirty three points, nine rebounds, three assists, and he 62 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: only played thirty minutes like he could score any single 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: time he wanted to. Hot Bobby Portis fourteen and seventeen, 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: a double double in all three games. Once he moved 65 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: into the starting lineup, and then Grayson Allen and Pat 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: Connaton hit nine threes combined, just to rub it in 67 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: the Bulls faces. But the good stuff is that Grayson 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Allen did get booed at home. He kind of was 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: asking for it because he said the Chicago fans weren't 70 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: booing loud enough. Probably true since it was a thirty 71 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: point game in the second half of both of those 72 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: and the Bulls won the fourth quarter. My guy Tony 73 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Bradley got some run. So yeah, I mean, I don't 74 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: know this one was over halftime, but I stuck around 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: to see that. Weggie saw it live. Cool. 76 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Wow, good for you, Yeah, good for you. I will 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: say I was real my buddy Grish, Oh your buddy Grish, 78 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: our buddy Grish. Last night. I said the game was 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: over on the first basket when Giannis threw down the 80 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: put back dunk, and it was like, Yeah, it's gonna 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: be one of these nights. It's gonna be one of 82 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: these gi honesses where he's gonna come out take control 83 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: of the game in the first quarter. He at fifteen 84 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: and get it set up where he's not gonna have 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: to play a lot and play maybe thirty minutes and 86 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. And then the defense on DeRozan 87 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: two is the other storyline from this game, and I 88 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: think this series too. Once Lavigne wasn't playing, Once Caruso 89 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: goes down, obviously there's no ball, there's just not a 90 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: lot of shooters. And the game plan from the Bucks 91 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: was all eyes, all bodies on DeRozan, anybody but him 92 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: gonna be beating us after he had that big game 93 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: too with the forty one, and in this one, they 94 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, sat on that right hip, forced him 95 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: to go left, bring a bunch of help, and he 96 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: was making the right play. Like it's like DeRozan is 97 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: a playmaker. Just guys were not hitting some of the 98 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: open shots. And you know, they shot fifty two threes. 99 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: This was the other thing. The Bulls were like, our 100 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: only chance really to win this game is to like 101 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: hit twenty five threes in this and somehow make it again. 102 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: But I think the most threes the balls have ever 103 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: taken an each game ever, And like you're mentioning seven 104 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: assessts for deroz and he could add seventeen ascents. The 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Bulls could have possibly shot the ball, but basically Milwaukee 106 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: was one hundred percent fine with anybody, but DeRozan shooting it. 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it was a this was a blow up. 108 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this was a yeah. 109 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: Look after game two, I was hopefully optimistic that hey, 110 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: the Bulls can maybe stretch this out to six. You know, 111 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: DeRozan had that game. He was not going to jump 112 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: as over Yannis. But it was fool's gold, you know, 113 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: it really was. And the fact that you know they 114 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: even one game two was was pretty fortunate in this series. 115 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: I can't remember what I predict that, but I think 116 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: it was Bucks in no more than five anyway, but then. 117 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: Middleton leaves in that game. Chill, yeah, he lives there 118 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: an opening. Yeah, yeah, the Bucks, you know. 119 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: It was it was like a bucking Honestly, just were 120 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: asleep those first two games, and then Budenholz was like, guys, 121 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: let's just let's just end so we get ready for 122 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: the Celtics in the second round. And that's really where 123 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: they're at right now. I mean, Yannis is that there's 124 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: no match up there for him against the Bulls's very 125 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: few matchups in the entire league of course for Yannis, 126 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: so he just decided to flex his muscles a little 127 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: last night, and yeah, the sixteen point quarter lead after 128 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: the first quarter, that was like the Bulls would have 129 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: to have some miraculous like a Desum Mougal for eight 130 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: threes ya Kobe White, someone like something like that was 131 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: the only real way they were going to get back 132 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: into the game. DeRozan took ten shots last night. I 133 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: think you mentioned he was passing, But if DeRozan had 134 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: thirty eight shots last night, I don't think anyone would 135 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: be complaining either, because they didn't have any other significant offense. 136 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: I know. 137 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: Vucci finished with a pretty strong game, merely got the 138 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: triple double there. 139 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: Oh man, did he shang his head off to Florida 140 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: when he slept? 141 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: Whoa? 142 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean that game must have a hard nugget until 143 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: they continue to play and why to play? I mean, 144 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: kudos to him. I'm like, yeah, I hope they were 145 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: like putting up how many fingers man, because that was huge. 146 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: He bounced off the floor there after he slipped. The 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: only else, oh thing I have in my notes is 148 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: we saw the skyhook from Drew Holiday. 149 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: Very cool. 150 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: The Kareem Abdul Drew Barr left the skyhook. Yeah it works, 151 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: and that's really all I have. They were Bulls were 152 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: very outclass. In fact, let's just like sort of spin 153 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: it into what they do in the off season here, 154 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: Trey like weird year, just to recap the Bulls. I 155 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: mean they were they were the first. They had no 156 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: one seen in the Eastern Conference for a good chunk 157 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: of the year. 158 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: The Bulls had an awesome three quarters of a season. 159 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: You know, through basically sixty games, they were looking like 160 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: a competitive team. That's kind of when things fell apart 161 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: the last twenty games of the season going into the playoffs. 162 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: I think they finished like eight and nineteen something along 163 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: those lines. But unfortunately the expectations were raised around the 164 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: turn of the year when the Bulls were in first place. 165 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: They stuck there for a month. Still the best season 166 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen. But the biggest question they've got this 167 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: off season is if they're going to sign Zach Lavine 168 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: to a maximum contract. He's twenty seven years old. He's 169 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: coming off a really really nice three year run here 170 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: twenty five per game, forty seven from the field, forty 171 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: from three to eighty four at the line, five assists, 172 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: five rebounds. He tried playing defense at the beginning of 173 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: this year, but you know, he's stick an offensive player 174 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: out there. The injuring to his knee, no doubt, hampered 175 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: him during the second half of the season, so it's 176 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: kind of hard to tell how he's going to perform 177 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: against the playoff defense because he just didn't look like 178 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: Zach Levine. I didn't think against the Bucks there, but 179 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: it's also the Bucks. They're gonna make you not look 180 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: like yourself. Nonethless, Levine's eligible for a five year I 181 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: think two hundred and twelve million dollar max contract this summer, 182 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: which is very weird because this is the best bowlseason 183 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen. That's when Jimmy Butler was twenty seven 184 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: years old coming off his best career season ever, and 185 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: the question then was is he the guy? Do you 186 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: build around Jimmy Butler? So it feels very similar to 187 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: me now with Zach Levine. They didn't build around Jimmy Butler. 188 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: They were terrible for five years and now they seem 189 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: to be back on the right path. So for me, 190 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent in on Levine. I think obviously 191 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: it's not a super max deal for him since he's 192 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: not an All NBA player or an NBA or a 193 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: major award winner. But yeah, I think they got to 194 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: sign him to the max. I think it's a I 195 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: think it's a depressing end of the season if you 196 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: lose out, you know, for the final quarter of the season, 197 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: and then the one guy who's stuck things through, you'll 198 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 2: let him go somewhere else. So hopefully they bring back Levine, 199 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: Hopefully he gets his knee cleaned up over the season 200 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: and it's ready to go next year. 201 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you do if you're the Bulls front off? 202 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: This is a nol brainer, like Trey saying with Levine 203 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: and let's yeah five to twelve. I mean it's a 204 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: big deal. It's a big deal, but it's. 205 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: Kind of where the league is right now. That's not 206 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: one of those like outlier contracts. 207 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: The only real concern with it, right is can he 208 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: play in games? Yeah, because he's had many seasons where 209 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: he doesn't. 210 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he missed an entire season to believe too. There. Yeah, 211 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: he's twenty seven, So I don't think it's one of 212 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: those albatross contracts. I think if he doesn't, if he 213 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: does perform below that in the next year or two, 214 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: I think there'll still be enough time for the Bulls 215 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: to trade him, because again, the further into the contract 216 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: you go, the actual cheap rot is anyway. So maybe 217 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: it's not a five year completely guaranteed. Maybe there's a 218 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: team option at the end of that or even a 219 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: player option in that fifth year. Maybe, but he certainly 220 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: was a huge reason why the Bulls were so good 221 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: for that. As Trey mentioneds, it's sort of sixty games, 222 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: he was incredible, he was an All Star, he was 223 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: playing well. He's really improved that three point shot. I mean, 224 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: he took a dip back this season in terms of 225 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: his percentage, but I think in terms of his the 226 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: confidence you're having him taking that now, that's a part 227 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: of his repertoire. 228 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: So that's good. 229 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: But I think the Bulls they their bigger question is 230 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: kind of what to do with Vucci. 231 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: I think I think he is eligible for a four year, 232 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen million dollars. Yeah, that to me is. 233 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: He's good. I think, if well, I don't, I think 234 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: maybe this if you can package him with something else 235 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: and improve that area. Look, Vicci's good. He can stretch 236 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: a floor. But I think at times as well, you know, 237 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: he's he's not a traditional big. He's an undersized big, 238 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: and he gets exposed a little bit on the defensive 239 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: end in that sense when he's playing his best and 240 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: he spreads the floor out, he's passing the ball, hitting 241 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: those shots, he's great. But I think if the Bulls 242 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: want to get to another level, they need to improve 243 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 3: in that area as their as their primary. He consented defensively, 244 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: if Caruso and Lunzo bull at playing on ball, perimitive 245 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: defenders outstanding. You know, DeRozan so so defendive, but that's fine. 246 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: He really gives you everything on the offensive end. Javonte Green, 247 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: I think, you know, there's some hope and some promise. 248 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: Patrick Williams another go out, But I think Vucci's probably 249 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 3: best used for the Bulls as a boggaining chip he 250 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: to get improved in that area. 251 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you do with Vucci? Baby? 252 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: Uh? Teach him to shoot again. 253 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a big thing to take a step back. 254 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a forty percent shooter in Orlando, thirty 255 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: percent for the Bulls, and like that's that's really Vucci's 256 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: game right there. If he's not shooting the ball, then 257 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: it's gonna look bad A lot of times so I 258 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: think if there's a trade out there, perhaps I would 259 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: be interested in that, but I don't think it's guaranteed. 260 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: I guess the good thing is that Vuchi only has 261 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: one year left on his deal next year. I would 262 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: not be clamoring to sign him to an extension, but 263 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: I also don't think he necessarily has to go, as 264 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: long as the bench gets an upgrade as well, Like 265 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 2: they got to get some defensive players, they got to 266 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: get a little bit more size. The Bulls just wore 267 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: down from playing small ball for the entire season. By 268 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: the end of the year, it's like they were barely 269 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: healthy enough to field the team. And you know, the 270 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: team that they were felt they were that they were 271 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: fielding was going up against the Bucks team that was gigantic, 272 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 2: and that's obviously the team they're going to be chasing 273 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: here in the Central Division. Shout out to divisions for 274 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: the next few seasons here, because it's like you're trying 275 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: to beat the Bucks. You're trying to get past the 276 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: Bucks at some point, and I don't know how they're 277 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: going to do that unless Bucci's a forty five percent 278 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: shooter from three. 279 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bucks and then hell, even the Celtics probably 280 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: aren't going anywhere here with their their squad. It's yeah, 281 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: it's tough to imagine what the Bulls will look like 282 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: next year in terms of like where they land in 283 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: the standings, like what will be considered. You know, good year. 284 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: It was a great year at the start, like Trey 285 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: talked about, the Bulls were back, everybody was high on them. 286 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,479 Speaker 1: Then a couple of key injuries, especially to those perimeter defenders, 287 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: and the defense like sort of fell off a cliff 288 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: as you would expect. But what you know, what's going 289 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: to be the goal next year for this team? Because 290 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: now there will be expectations if everybody is playing you know, 291 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: ball and Caruso and de Rosen and the keep and 292 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: they figure out what they're doing Withvich and all that 293 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: and some young guys and Patrick Willibs like he's going 294 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: to stay healthy, he's got to be on the courte 295 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: They got Desumoo looks fantastic as a pick. There are 296 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: pieces there they'll they'll need to make, like a few 297 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: moves around the edges. I think like some size would 298 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: help for sure, But what's a what will be the goal? 299 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm getting out here? For the 300 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: next season. 301 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: Well, they won forty six games this season, so I mean, 302 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: I think fifty is the sort. 303 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: Of fifty in a playoff series. 304 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, yeah, finishing that fourth or fifth 305 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: spot in the Eastern Conference. But it's hard to see 306 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: them again taking another step and until they really do improve. 307 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: But so much of it does come down to health 308 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: for them. So yeah, you know, because Lonzo ball was 309 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: good when he played, but how many games he must 310 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: have played thirty. 311 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: Thirty five games? 312 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 5: Five? 313 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: Wow? 314 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: And Caruso obviously, I think he just gives them such. 315 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: A half the season two. 316 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, So and look some of those injuries, you know, 317 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: the Caruso one was obviously significantly unfortunate. What happened with 318 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: Alan Lonzo. I can't remember what injury he's got right now. 319 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: Kne the injury he's had that for a while. 320 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 3: Hasn't that problem that's actually going to hang around and 321 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: unless he can get that clean right up, because he 322 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: is really also improved his three point shooting there, and yeah, 323 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: Patrick Williams and I so, yeah, they had some They've 324 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: gotta get their players healthy. Yeah, you know, I mean 325 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: that's uh, it's easy to say that. But if those 326 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 3: guys around on the court. Then that's where you just 327 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: have so much more confident in the Bulls being able 328 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: to defend. I think that was a problem against the 329 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: Bucks especially. It was like, well they just got no 330 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: one there. They're they're trying the best they can to 331 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: sort of cover so many gaps. 332 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: Did you take down your bulls flag? 333 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: Not yet? 334 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: No, not yet. I didn't have time this morning. I'll 335 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: switch it out for the red one. Do you do 336 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: like a ceremonial flag folding thing like something? Okay, something special? 337 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll play the crossroads Okay, Yeah, I don't know. 338 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I gotta go back to the regular season flag. 339 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: I thought the six time champion would help. I switched 340 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: to that flat or I got that flag first when 341 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: the Balls were on their win streak. Yeah, so I 342 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: was hoping I was gonna bring good luck. Got one 343 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: win against Giannis on the road in the playoffs, so 344 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: maybe it worked a little bit there, but not enough power. 345 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: Yes, all right, what a weird season for you and 346 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: your Chicago Yeah you almost wish it was like, uh 347 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: like flipped on its head, right, Yeah, Like they started 348 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: like the old classic Bulls of late and then went 349 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: on their killer run and then we would have got 350 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: nothing but Bulls backs. But hey, look it was a 351 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: it was a What do you grade that season? A plus? 352 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: A plus? 353 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean they didn't uh after being the worst 354 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: team in the league for four seasons. It's cool to 355 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: be back in the playoffs. But I will say we 356 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: drove to Memphis, Bulls lost, saw the Bulls and the 357 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: Hawks play here in Atlanta. Bulls lost, flew back to 358 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: Chicago for Game three, Bulls lost by thirty. I might 359 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: not go to any Bulls games. Yeah, twenty twenty one 360 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: was good. I saw the Bulls beat the Pacers in 361 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: Chicago twenty twenty two, oh for three. 362 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so I might have to retire. Maybe you've learned 363 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: your lesson. 364 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'm a little I will say I'm a 365 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: little concerned about the Bulls Knicks potential. You know, the 366 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: Knicks were great last year. They got into the playoffs. 367 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: Julius Randall had an all NBA season that can kind 368 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: of came out of nowhere. Many similarities, I would say 369 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: to DeMar Deroz and having his greatest season of all 370 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: time being an MVP candidate. So that's the big thing 371 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: to me, is to keep building, no complacency and don't 372 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: just run it back like that's the thing. It's like, 373 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: you had a good yeah, first two thirds of the season. 374 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: You can't say, let's just see what that team looks 375 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: like again, we got a tinker assuming even if that 376 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: team's totally healthy, not quite good enough. So I got 377 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: a little confidence in Akam. Yeah, Carnachiavius and Mark Eversley. 378 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: They made a whole bunch of moves last year, and 379 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: it didn't seem like the Bulls could accomplish a ton, 380 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: you know, with their cap space and all the assets 381 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: they had. 382 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: So the cupboard is a little bare right now. But 383 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: they're pretty smart dudes. 384 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: All right. 385 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Well, let's get to the third seeded Bucks advancing to 386 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: face the second seeded Celtics in the Eastern Conference Semifinals 387 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: aka the second Round Game one on Sunday Sunday, Sunday 388 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: Sunday in Boston. Being the higher seed, so this is 389 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: a juicy matchup defending champs versus best team in the 390 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: NBA for the last three months, I mean record wise. 391 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: They say that they've won thirty of their last thirty 392 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: six games. The Celtics have you include the playoffs which 393 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: is pretty wild. But the status of Chris Middleton in 394 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: this We got some news here this morning from Sham's 395 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: at the Athletic that left mcl injury is a Grade 396 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: two sprain for Middleton. He's expected to miss the entire 397 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: second round series. At first, it happens on April twentieth, 398 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: in game two, the one where de Rozan goes off. 399 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: They say we'll give it two weeks sort of reevaluate 400 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: him then, and that's only what eight days ago, basically 401 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: a week and a day ago. But they're saying no, 402 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: he won't even probably be playing in this round, potentially 403 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: in jeopardy for a conference finals if the Bucks are 404 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: to move on. He's played well, obviously over the last 405 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: couple of seasons, even in Celtics playoff series, he's played 406 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: really well. I think he's averaged twenty two points per game, 407 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: twenty two and a half basically points per game on 408 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: fifty two percent shooting. So I'm getting out here is like, 409 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: can the Bucks do this? Can they win this series 410 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: without Chris Middleton if he's not playing at all against 411 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: this mighty Celtics defense. 412 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: They can? I think their best chance of doing so, though, 413 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: is to make sure they hold Serve at home and 414 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: give themselves that one game Game seven in Boston to 415 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: try to win that one on the road. I don't 416 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 3: think they're going to win either of these first two 417 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 3: in Boston, don't know, because I think Udoka is going 418 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: to largely apply the same sort of defensive tactics to 419 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: Jannas as he did to Kevin Durant. Now Jannas is 420 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: more forced. I know, he's more forced than Finesse. But 421 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: at the same time, without Middleton there, you're saying Bobby 422 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: Portsy did have a good series against the Bulls, saying okay, 423 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: well Bobby, you can see what you can do in 424 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: this series. Now, Drew Holiday, we know he's fantastic, a 425 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 3: little bit up and down himself at times. So then 426 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, it's Pat Connaton, you know, Grace and Alla. 427 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: Those guys are going to be able to really come 428 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: in and fill the void. They may, but I just 429 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 3: I just watched the Boston Celtics stifle Kevin Durant like 430 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: no one has ever done before, to the point where 431 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: he was so frustrated, he was turning the ball over, 432 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: he was rushed to get his shots. And again I 433 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: know it's a different way how you have to play Yannas. 434 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: But it's probably going to be Tatum to start, and 435 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: then it's going to be Brown and Smart and Harford 436 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: and everyone just like double him if his Yeah, exactly, 437 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 3: if you're in the poe and you're down low and 438 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 3: force Yarnis to have to basically play Game six against 439 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: the Suns every single game of this series. I think 440 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: that's largely what it's going to come down to. So 441 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: it's a massive blow to lose Chris Middleton. He's that 442 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: release valve that Yannisy rely on, whereas it's. 443 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: Just twenty five points. Basically you're taking off the board. 444 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: And it's like Yannis can rest and it's like okay, 445 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 3: now it's your turn, Milton. And also when he does 446 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: get doubled in triple, it's like, okay, Middleton can attack, 447 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 3: he can get to the line. So it's huge. The 448 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: Celtics defense is incredible and their offense is also very, 449 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: very tough to defend. So the Bucks are I've got 450 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: a huge obstacle here. They've got Yarnis though, so there's 451 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: no way, there's no way I'm thinking they're written off. 452 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: But I just feel that their best chance is that 453 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: one game where maybe Yarnis can just really explodes and 454 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: explode and detonate them in that one game. Other than that, 455 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: I'm probably leaning Boston right now. 456 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, people are saying Yanis versus the Celtics defense the 457 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: way it's been playing lately is the equivalent of the 458 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: unstoppable force meeting the immovable object. 459 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: Nice. 460 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Yes, there's a lot of truth to that. I think, 461 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: what do you think? What's what's the key storyline to 462 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: this series? What are you watching? Does it just come 463 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: down to, like how the Celtics defend Honis, what he 464 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: can do differently than KD put the pressure on officials 465 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: to make calls and get some of those Celtics players 466 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: in foul trouble. What do you think happens. 467 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: I think the Bucks can obviously still win this series. 468 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: If you honest is the best player in this series, 469 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: which you know, he's maybe the best player in the league, 470 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: they certainly have a chance. But I'm I'm a little 471 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: bit more interested to see how the Bucks defend the 472 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: Celtics because moving Bobby Portis into the starting lineup I 473 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: think made total sense. Against the Bulls, they have nobody 474 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: that can beat you from the outside, So let's bring 475 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: in all the sides we possibly can crush the glass 476 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: and make it really tough for the Bulls to score 477 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: in the paint. He's not really going to be able 478 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: to have anybody to guard, I don't think in the 479 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: starting lineup against the Celtics, cause you got Drew Holliday 480 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: will guard one of the guards, right, like, whether that. 481 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: Be Smartly or Jalen Brown. 482 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: I assume Wes Matthews is probably gonna get the Tatum assignment, 483 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: But then what like, who's guarding that other guard of 484 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: Marcus smart or Jalen Brown or maybe or maybe Tatum 485 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 2: I suppose, But it doesn't seem to me that Bobby 486 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 2: Portis would be the choice there. 487 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: He's more I think he's. 488 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: More of a four to five than a three four. Yeah, 489 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 2: so that seems a little odd to me that he 490 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: would stand in the starting lineup. He's obviously been really 491 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: solid off the bench, A six Man of the Year 492 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: candidate for sure. 493 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: So maybe content steps. 494 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: Into the starting lineup and I get a they get 495 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: a little bit more perimeter action, I don't know. So 496 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: that's something I'm gonna definitely be watching for to see 497 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: what how the Bucks approach trying to slow down the Celtics. 498 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: Hell, what do you think about that matchup wise? When 499 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: you start this game and who's starting from Awai? Because Bobby, 500 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: let me point this out, when he came in after 501 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: the injury to Milton, he was great against. 502 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: All Yeah, he killed the Bulls. 503 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been in fourteen and his three starts shot 504 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: forty eight percent from the floor in thirty seven percent 505 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: from three because he can stretch the floor too. Yeah, 506 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: but this is a different series and different matchups here, 507 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: And who's Bobby playing. You're putting them on Marcus Smart 508 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: for crying out loud, like. 509 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: Honestly, maybe I would not put him on Jaylen Brown. 510 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 3: I think Jayles Brown. Oh well, Cookie Titum will atsolutely 511 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: cook him as well. This is the problem I think 512 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: for the Bucks. West Matthews. I respect his career, but 513 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: you saw against the Nets when Brooklyn, when Blake Griffin 514 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: came on and New Dork was like he's the weak spot, 515 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: bango straight at him. That's what I think they'll target 516 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: West Matthews. I think because he's older and he's a 517 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: bit slower and smaller, and you know Brown and Tatum, 518 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: they're not going to be bothered at all by shooting 519 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: over him Brown. 520 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: You're a lot more bothered by Jiannis and brook Lawpez 521 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: behind him though. 522 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, Jalen Brown, when he drives into the pain, 523 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 3: I think that's when he's at his most effective because 524 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: he can really get in there and cause some trouble. 525 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 3: And yeah, Lopez is fine, but you know, I don't know, yeh. 526 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: Come on, Loez. 527 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. 528 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: That's actually a good big old old centers like trudging 529 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 3: up and down the court at each other, spread the 530 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: floor a bit though, So that could be a fun 531 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: interesting series there. But they need to make sure that 532 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: Yarnis obviously doesn't get in foul trouble himself and the Celtics, 533 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: I think again that they will. They will make him work. 534 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 3: They'll try to get him exhausted at that end, because 535 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: he's going to have to carry much of a load. Oh, 536 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: it's a fascinating series. No I count White for it. 537 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: Is this a rivalry Bucks Celtics? And I asked that 538 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: because it's gonna be the third time in the last 539 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: four years that they've met in the playoffs. That's pretty good. 540 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: A lot of the same personnel obviously star personnel. Celtics 541 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: won in seven games in the first round in eighteen 542 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: and the Bucks won in five games in nineteen. 543 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Terry Rosier and Eric Blitzoe was the battle, 544 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: isn't it then? Obviously that was one of the ones. Yeah, 545 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: I guess so, yeah, wow, I hadn't thought about it. 546 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, call me by surprise that this is the third time. 547 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Basically the last words. 548 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: They don't seem to have any beef though, the Celtics 549 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: and the Bucks like they probably just respect each other 550 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: too much. Yeah, Draymond versus jokis. 551 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: Like a tip of the captain, you and a tip 552 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: of the captain. Yeah, no, it's possible. Very excited for 553 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: this get started on Sunday. I think what we'll do 554 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: is we'll make our official predictions on tomorrow's drop podcast. Okay, 555 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: tass me back. Have a little more time to think 556 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: about it, talk about some X factors and stuff like that. 557 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,239 Speaker 1: But it should be a great series. Let's hear from 558 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: the stream team. 559 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: Now. 560 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys are already dropping your Bucks in 561 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: blank predictions or Celtics in blank predictions, So have at it. 562 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: Let us know what you're going to be watching in 563 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: this series, anything else from the Bucks winning, the Bulls 564 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: losing what they do in the off season, or Bucks 565 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: Celtics Round two. 566 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: Maybe fight Buck Celtics should be the conference finals for me. 567 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting. You think whoever wins this series will 568 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: probably go to the finals? 569 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and I would like this to be the 570 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: one that gets you there too. 571 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: So whoever wins the series, you would like to say 572 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: the heat You would like to say that too. 573 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: Hate the Raptors. 574 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: They just have a series for fun that. 575 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: They don't even put it on TV. 576 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird, though I do think these are the 577 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: two best teams in the East. So but it happens, 578 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: It happens, you know, so. 579 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I'll get ready for some angry Beantown boys when Jannis 580 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: is going to the line seventeen eighteen eighteen times. Look, 581 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. This is the thing, Katie, you 582 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: said it. That's perfect. Bit more of a finesse player, 583 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: I can get my shot over anyone, which actually turned 584 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: out to be maybe not that true against Jason Tatum 585 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: who was ended up blocking jump shops, which was wild. 586 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 1: But yeah, ho is he gonna do that? He's good? No, no, no, No, 587 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: We're going to attack, attack, attack, and you know Smart's 588 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna be sliding in taking some charges and and Giannis 589 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: could get in foul trouble early. How much is he 590 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: on Tatum trying to stow him? This is this is awesome. 591 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's gonna be some flopping going around. Hell's 592 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of booze or the reps. We're 593 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 2: gonna see a lot of reviews on this one. Because 594 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: it's the playoffs. Giannis gets a little bit more leeway 595 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: for sure to lower his shoulder and knock a guy down. 596 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: And obviously Smart, as the defensive player of the Year, 597 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: is gonna be in the mix trying to take charges. 598 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a wild one. But this is 599 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: a huge series, I think for Giannis, all things considered, 600 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: especially with Chris Middleton, we know he's gonna be out now. 601 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: The Bucks are gonna be the underdog here. I think, yeah, 602 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: we'll be on the Celtics, right. So if Yannas shows 603 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: up and you know, proves once again that he can 604 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: show up in the biggest moments, that just inches him 605 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: higher and higher on the list of all time greats. 606 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, should be good. We will make our 607 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: official predictions on tomorrow's Drop podcast, but let's take our 608 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: first break. When we come back, we'll talk about the 609 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: Warriors advancing to the second round taking care of the 610 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: Nuggets last night, and Doc Rivers had some interesting comments 611 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: about his three to one collapses. We'll show you that 612 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: clip and talk about it. Don't go anywhere, all right, 613 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: back with the boys in the Classic Factory. Somebody here 614 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: in the stream team Lee off of that ad read 615 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: says you have the worst taste in music. How do 616 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: you feel about that? Did you write that? 617 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: No? 618 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: It was Berto eats well, Berto, but he says he 619 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: loves you. 620 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: Well, I guess Berto's got the right taste in music. 621 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to the Western Conference game from 622 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: last night, and it was Curry and the Warriors holding 623 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: off Jokic eliminating the Nuggets in Game five. See you later. 624 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Denver put up a fight through in this one. 625 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 3: Ah, they did. They held off is the right way 626 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: of saying this. I felt bad for your kitchen in 627 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: the end because he was in a bit of foul trouble. 628 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: He had some hamstring injury there as well. He was 629 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 3: on the bike trying to sort of stay warm. He 630 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: was brilliant trying to get his team over the line here. 631 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 3: They just didn't quite have enough. Sort of felt like 632 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: almost the Nuggets season, it was like, oh, at their best, 633 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: they can be, you know, really good, but the margin 634 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: for error is pretty thin there and they just came 635 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: up a smid short. They led this one actually going 636 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: into that fourth quarter by eight points, and it wasn't 637 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: even a great quarter. I didn't think by the by 638 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 3: the Warriors. But Gary Payton played really well in that game, 639 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: hit a big three, His dad was on the sideline 640 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: celebrating there. Steph Curry returned to somewhat of his form 641 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: there with thirty points, hit three big threes to sort 642 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: of the end of the third into the fourth. He 643 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 3: was great. But I just I looked at the Nuggets 644 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: and I was just like, they just can't. They're not 645 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: going to get over the line here. And Michael Malone 646 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: tried a few things but couldn't couldn't sort of stop 647 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: the Warriors really at the key time there. So their 648 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: season ends. It sucks to see Yokich out again. You know, 649 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: he got swept out last year, loses in five. This time, 650 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: He's probably gonna win the MVP again, and the Nuggets 651 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: I just hope, for like anything, they can have a 652 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: full healthy season, because you knew, like even if they 653 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 3: won last night, they weren't going to win this series, 654 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 3: you know. But it was I thought maybe last night 655 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: and the Warriors returned to that sort of lineup of 656 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: death or whatever they're calling it now, with Steph coming 657 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 3: back in and Cavon Looney coming out, I thought, maybe 658 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: they're just going to try to run the Nuggets off 659 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: the floor here, and the Nuggets sort of don't even 660 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: put up a fight. That didn't happen at all. Denver 661 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: fought and scrapped until the very very end. Just didn't 662 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: have enough horses though really to win the game. 663 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: K loves horses, Yeah, the ex but the Joker twelve 664 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: is thirty points in the final three and a half minutes. 665 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: Basically he finished with eighteen boards too, and it assis 666 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: and he was scoring, I mean basically every time down. 667 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: They just could not get stopped. And now, unfortunately he 668 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: was involved a lot in a lot of that action 669 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: that the Warriors were marching to the rim. They're you know, 670 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: putting him in movement exactly right. He's gassed and doing 671 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: everything offensively, and you know, I thought he got a 672 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: little exposed there like the team did. 673 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, the Warriors just have too much for the 674 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: Nuggets to be able to handle with this version of 675 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: the Nuggets. And I think you it really shows up 676 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: in the three point stats. Six threes for the Nuggets 677 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: last night, thirteen for the Warriors, Like, if you're minus 678 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: twenty one from the three point line, you're gonna have 679 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: a tough time against Golden State. I thought the most 680 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: interesting thing from this game probably is going with Gary 681 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: Payton the second over Jordan Poole there in the fourth quarter. 682 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: Pool didn't have it going. You know, he's had a 683 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: really nice start to the playoffs here, but we've also 684 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: seen him have brutal games like he did last night. 685 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: But it was very easy for the Warriors to stick 686 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: with a small ball lineup that's just a little bit 687 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: more defensively sound, with Gary Payton rather than Jordan Poole. 688 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: So to get the offense that you got from Gary 689 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: Payton was incredible. You know, he was attacking space, hit 690 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: a couple of threes. I don't know if you're necessarily 691 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: going to be relying on that, but when it's happening 692 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: ride the hot hand, So shout out to Steve Kurr. 693 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: I thought he made some smart moves there, and yeah 694 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: started uh started steph for Kevon Looney, which a little 695 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: bit by that. They did bring Looney in pretty quickly. Yeah, 696 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: you know, I think the biggest worry then, at least 697 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: against playing against Yokich, is that Draymond could get in 698 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: foul trouble. But you know, maybe that's not going to 699 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: be quite as big of a deal in this second 700 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: round series. 701 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: I think Lee you're thinking with Kurr is right, We'll 702 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: start with the you know, mega death line up, whatever 703 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: the heck we're calling it, and see if we can 704 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: just run him off the floor. We'll splash a bunch 705 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: of threes and see if they just like roll into 706 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: a ball and die. And they didn't. I thought Aaron 707 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: Gordon was really aggressive to start the game. Yeah, like 708 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: he played well. He had a bad bad turnover late. 709 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: Was that him? I think that threw it away after 710 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 1: that incredible poss Oh yeah, right right right, yeah, it 711 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: was it was too hot for he was I didn't 712 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: expect it, and then he threw it back and it 713 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: was Yeah, that was a crucial play. Yeah, that was 714 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: like a two point game, I think, still at that 715 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: point with not a lot of time to go. But yeah, 716 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: and then Kerr electing, like you said, to go with 717 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: GP two and you know it's easy because he's out 718 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: there for defense, but then he's also going to chip 719 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: in fifteen point it's and hit a three when it 720 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: was like a five point game there. Yeah, then you're like, Okay, 721 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: now I look like a genius because he's actually given 722 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: us that. I think Curs said as much. He's like 723 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: he was scoring, he was attacking, he was hitting threes. 724 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: It was sort of a noil brainer to have him continue. 725 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about Steph Curry's new celebration putting 726 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: putting teams to sleep? Oh like scoring elite. 727 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: Now he's done it twice a yeah, Stretcher, I well, 728 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: that might come back to haunting one day, because I mean, 729 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: you know, they might have come back to hant well, 730 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: because if I'm taking it as like the game's over, 731 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: like go to bed sort of thing, I mean, it 732 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: was only a four point game here, one or two 733 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: possessions the other way, and the Nuggets pull off the victory. 734 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: I thought Boogey Cousins was really good luck. Shocked to 735 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: learn his career playoff high was nineteen points. I know 736 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: he hasn't obviously played a ton of playoff games, but 737 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: nineteen was funny to hear, and he had a nice 738 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 3: little and Grant Hill caught it on the play on 739 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: the broadcast. How did Nicola Jokic floater in the lane 740 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: there too? So? Yeah, but when he's your second best player, 741 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: as I think he probably was there last night, yes 742 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: at that point. 743 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's talk about the Nuggets then. Top priority 744 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: this offseason? What is it? Just get healthy health? Yeah, 745 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. 746 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: That's make sure that Michael Porter Junior and Jamal Murray 747 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: are ready to go for next season. They won their 748 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: first four games last year with Jokic, Murray, Porter, Gordon 749 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: and Barton as their starting lineup. They look like a 750 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: legit title contender. We just didn't get to really see 751 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: them gel together for the entirety of this season, and 752 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: then this year obviously we didn't get to see them 753 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: basically at all. I'm a little bit more concerned with 754 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior than Jamal Murray just because backs seem 755 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: a little bit trickier to me than knees Also, I 756 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: think Murray has kind of been cleared to play this season, 757 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: but doesn't want to play until he's one hundred percent, 758 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: and it is going to be the Jamal Murray we're 759 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: all used to. 760 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: So hopefully that's the case. 761 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: Next year because I think that answers a lot of 762 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: questions for the Nuggets. Obviously, Monte Morris becomes the backup 763 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: point guard, which is what he should be for this 764 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: Nuggets team. Both of the Greens, Jeff and Jamichael, become 765 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: the backup bigs rather than Jeff Green having to start 766 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: as a small ball four. I would also like to 767 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: see a wing upgrade if they can. Will Barton. They 768 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: ask a lot from him. He's performed well for them, 769 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: but that's certainly a place they could get better. And 770 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: their bench I think could use a refresh, you know, 771 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: Brent Forbes fora Kundo Kompaza Austin Rivers. You don't need 772 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: to really keep any of those guys. Maybe something that's 773 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: a little bit different, a little variety in those three 774 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: guards would be helpful next season. 775 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: It'd be interesting to see how Bones goes next season 776 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: as well. Had some really good moments, not so much 777 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: last night, but other games. You can definitely shoot. He's 778 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: a fire cracker off the bench there, like a J 779 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: Smith or a Lou Williams or something like that. I mean, 780 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: if he can give them good consistent production, that'll help them. 781 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: And they need desperately players like that for Bones to 782 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: like sort of pop off as a rookie because they 783 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: have so much money locked up. Yeah, with the Supermax 784 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: kicking in here for Yokicic very soon, Like they have 785 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: three Max guys, Jokic, Jamal and Michael Porter Junior, like 786 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: only the Lakers, Nets and Warriors have three Max guys. 787 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: And then Gordon is like a twenty million per year 788 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: player that were going up. I think he's like nineteen 789 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: or something. 790 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: You know, obviously, but he must only have a year 791 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 3: left or so. 792 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: They might have one or two left on. 793 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: Because I actually think Gordon is a really good fit 794 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: on this team. I like him on the team, but 795 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: he needs to be more consistent. But that's also been 796 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: a trademark of his entire career. 797 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: Easier for him to be the consistent fourth guy on 798 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: the team though, third or fourth guy, than the second guy. 799 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Being asked, it's just you just want 800 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: him to have that production that he gives you at times, 801 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: you know, but I just still remember in his all 802 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: Lando days, it'd be forty six percent from three in 803 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: the first month of the season. Yeah, it finish at 804 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 3: like twenty six percent, you know. So, But I think 805 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 3: the reason I think he's a good fit is because 806 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: of his athleticism. It's perfect for Jokic. You know, you 807 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: run to the rim, he'll find you. He'll do that. 808 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: And if he can spread the floor and hit those 809 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 3: threes consistently, then he's very good. And defensively you saw 810 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: him on Steph there a little bit last night. Again, 811 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: I think he can be one of those sort of 812 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: lockdown defenders like that when he really locks in. He's 813 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: just consistency. He's the biggest problem. 814 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: Also, I saw Bobby Marks right about they have to 815 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: decide ownership. Does Are they going to use something like 816 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: a mid level exception like six million dollars to go 817 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: get maybe some depth like you said usmall for or 818 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: something around the edges? And if they do, that's gonna 819 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: cost him a lot more than six million, because you're 820 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: getting into a luxury tex and gotta do it? Will 821 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: they do it? 822 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 2: Got a two time MVP. You gotta spend every single 823 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: dollar possible, especially with the way this year went, like 824 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: Jokic had an awesome season, one of the best statistical 825 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: seasons we've ever seen, gonna win the MVP, but not 826 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: even close in the playoffs, right, Like, you don't want 827 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 2: to continue to run it back. That's just wasting his time, 828 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 2: to be quite honest. And you know, if if you 829 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: continue to have nothing seasons, then that's when people want 830 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: to leave. I don't think that's gonna happen with Jokic, 831 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: but uh but I would be doing everything possible to 832 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 2: build a great team around him. And if that means 833 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: you're spending a ton of money, then that's why you're 834 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 2: a billionaire. Yeah. 835 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 1: Good point. Do you think this team, when fully healthy, 836 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: can like legit win a title like next season? Jamal 837 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: Murray a hundred percent. Let's say, Michael Porter Junior one 838 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Ag there all these other guys we talked 839 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: about obviously Jokic. Is that enough? 840 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 3: I mean I think so you just need to see 841 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: you need to be reminded of how good Jamal. 842 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: Why don't you conference finals? 843 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 844 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: I know it's a weird, yeah, but he was. 845 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 3: He really stepped his game up though I think Michael 846 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 3: Porter Junior is probably the biggest outline here, Like, what 847 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: is this guy? Is he a really really really good shooter, scorer, 848 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 3: offensive player, but a SIV at the other end, because 849 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 3: that's his He doesn't defend at all, And he needs 850 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: to be a if you're going to pay him that 851 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: much money and he's going to be on the court 852 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 3: and that important to the team, third best player. No, no, 853 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 3: worse than that. He needs to not just give away 854 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 3: all his points on the defensive end. So but I 855 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: think so, I think so. I mean when you got 856 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 3: Yokich like that at his best. The great thing about 857 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 3: Yokich is he doesn't want to score thirty five to 858 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 3: forty points a game. He's be happy with twenty two 859 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: points and twelve assists. And the Nuggets, I would guess 860 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 3: if he's getting if he's producing like that, they're more 861 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: likely to win games. So I do like them. But 862 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 3: you just got to see it. 863 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: I told Nora last night when they were about to lose, 864 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: as like, at least he can go back to his horses, 865 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think that brings him comfort, right, lots 866 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: of horses, She said, Go, I feel bad for those horses. 867 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 868 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: Well, I was like, I don't think he's right. I mean, 869 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of pictures of him riding 870 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: topdragging him along. Yeah, you got the wheels to help 871 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: you out horses man. Yeah, And I said, I said 872 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: pound nothing for all. I said, think about this, This 873 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: man walks around day to day life, feel kids right 874 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: as one of the biggest men. 875 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and on the planet. 876 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: Like if I'm not really even exaggerating, Yeah, he probably 877 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: likes to be around gigantic horses because it's like it's 878 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: it's almost has more of a connection with them because 879 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: they're my size. Yeah, a steam and he is majestic. 880 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: He is graceful like a giant horse can be. I mean, 881 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't like. 882 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: Race raceful like a giant. 883 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, a horse is graceful and I hate horses. 884 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the one good thing you can 885 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 2: say about horses. They are graceful. Yeah. 886 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: Anyway, I think this is why he finds comfort in it. 887 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think of anytime you see a horse 888 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 3: race though, the junkies. There's a reason they're five ft 889 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 3: two and weigh sixty pounds. 890 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand that he's not racing horses though. 891 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 3: But still I'm just saying he's he's on the back 892 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 3: of the horse. 893 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: So you take a horse hold on, do you think 894 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: a giant horse sees OK walking up to the buggy. 895 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 3: Behind Jesus six eleven, six ten. 896 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just like this guy. 897 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: The guy gets in there. 898 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: Just I know this strong. I agree this strong. I 899 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: think they like the horses, aren't strong. I think they 900 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: like the childnge. Oh come on, big boy, jump in. 901 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: Where's your brothers? 902 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: Get him in? 903 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: All right? Anything else on h on Nuggets Warriors the series, Uh, 904 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: most of us had this going. I guess I had it. 905 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: I had it in six. I thought maybe the Nuggets 906 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: would grab one more. But Warriors look pretty dominant and 907 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: look like they could win a title. Do you think 908 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: they care at all who they play in the second round? 909 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: Wolves or Grizzlies. No, not. You don't think they're cheering 910 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: a little bit for the Wolves. 911 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: So they get I think if they were to choose, 912 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: that would choose menicide. But I don't think that they're 913 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 3: wired about the Grizzlies. And the Grizzlies are gonna be 914 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: good if they're at home and all that, But the 915 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 3: Warriors that just being there in their experience and they're 916 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 3: looking healthier and better, and yeah, so I don't think. 917 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: So it'd be nice to get it Steven Adams versus 918 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: Draymond Green battle again. Watch your horses, Watch your horses. 919 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a cool storyline too, with the Wiggins 920 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: for D'Angelo Russell trade in Minnesota there, and then of 921 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: course we've got Draymond versus Steven Adams, and obviously I 922 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 2: think people would like to see Job vers as Steph Curry. 923 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 2: But I'm with Lee. I don't really think the Warriors 924 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: are nervous about either of these teams, just because Minnesota 925 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 2: and Memphis have looked super inexperienced and the Warriors, as 926 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 2: we know, have a lot of continuity built up over 927 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 2: the years. 928 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well this we got to get to here. This 929 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun. Seventy six Ers head coach 930 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers, guys, does not care for the narrative associating 931 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: him with blowing multiple three to one playoff series leads. 932 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: In fact, he got downright defensive when discussing his past 933 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: team's collapses. And we got to show you the entire clip. 934 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: Here's Doc on Wednesday. 935 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 5: Easy to use me as an example. But I wish 936 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 5: I would tell the whole story with me. My Orlando 937 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 5: team is the ape Seed. No one gives me credit 938 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 5: for getting out against the Pistons who won the title. 939 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 5: That was in the Ape Seed. 940 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 2: Go look at that. 941 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: I want you to go back and look at that roster. 942 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 5: I dare you to go back and look at that roster, 943 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 5: and you would say, not a hell of a coaching job. 944 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: Really. 945 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 5: I mean the Clipper team that we lost three one 946 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 5: Chris Paul didn't play in the first two games and 947 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 5: was playing on one leg, and we didn't have home court. 948 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 5: And then the last one, to me is the one 949 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 5: we blew. That's the one I said, we blew that. 950 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 5: And now I was in the bubble and anything could 951 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 5: happen in the boat. Well there's no home court. Game 952 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 5: seven would have been in La, you know, but it 953 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 5: just happened. So I would say with me, some of 954 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 5: them is we got I gotta do better. Always always 955 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 5: take my own responsibility. 956 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 957 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 5: And then some of it as circumstances happened. You know 958 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 5: this one, let's win it and we don't have to 959 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 5: talk about it. 960 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: All right. So there's the clip making making rounds yesterday. 961 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: I wish y'all would tell the whole story with me. 962 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: That's what Doc wants. Just a little fact checking on you, 963 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: Doc though, just so we have this right. In two 964 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: thousand and three, the magic team that he's talking about 965 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: that took that three to one lead on the top 966 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: seeded Pistons. Yes, Detroit went on to win the next 967 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: three games Spike combined sixty one points to go to 968 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: the second round, but they would then lose to the 969 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: Nets in the East Finals. 970 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 3: So they didn't win the champions Yeah. 971 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: So he had that part wrong. They went on to 972 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: win the title the next year, the Pistons did, but 973 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: that three to one collapse wasn't to the actual, you know, 974 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: championship team. That's all. That's all. Otherwise, this is amazing 975 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,280 Speaker 1: that he is going through all of this getting ready 976 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: in theory for a Game six in Toronto. 977 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 2: Gordon Garrett Chek trash clerk, trash Pat Garrity, I mean facts, facts. 978 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not totally wrong, but what he could 979 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: have said is nothing, you know, or I'm focusing on 980 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: the raptors here. Instead, he's bringing up playoff series from 981 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: twenty years which to me just makes you think he's 982 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 2: thinking about it, Oh my god, thinking about it. My 983 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: personal favorite is that he basically blames Chris Paul coming 984 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 2: back for yeah, for the Clippers blowing a three one lead. 985 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 1: Yees. 986 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 987 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: This is just a weird clip from from Doc. 988 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 2: Like I said, he should have just said nothing, or like, 989 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: we're trying to beat the raptors here, who cares what 990 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: happened literally twenty years ago. 991 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: I also, I think it's important to make this clear. 992 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: This was like from what I could tell, at least 993 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: I saw it on Twitter from a Philadelphia account. 994 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this is it like. 995 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: Raptors fans like trying to rile them up here, Oh 996 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: look at this, or or Raptors reporters like asking this quote? 997 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: This was This was from again what I think was 998 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: seventy six ers reporters and Philly reporters asking him about this, 999 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: which makes it even funnier to me. But yeah, what's 1000 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: your what's your takenaway anything? From this? Does he have 1001 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: a Is he right on a lot of the stuff 1002 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: he's saying outside of that one little fact check there? 1003 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 3: Well, he was right when he said we with a 1004 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 3: number eight seat. That was right, you know, that was 1005 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 3: that was up three one. Yeah, McGrady was like, I'm 1006 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 3: getting ready for this second round or something like that. Yeah, 1007 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 3: but that did really spark I think the Pistons because 1008 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 3: you mentioned they blew them out after that. 1009 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1010 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 3: The Clippers Rocket series, that was definitely the weirdest one 1011 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 3: for me because it was like, yeah, you didn't have 1012 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 3: Chris Paul the thirsty games, but you split those. But 1013 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 3: Doc is absolutely rattled right now. They know they've got 1014 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 3: to end the series tonight. They have to even though 1015 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,720 Speaker 3: they're going home for a Game seven. The last place 1016 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 3: in the world they were to be is losing a 1017 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 3: Game seven on their home court after being up three 1018 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 3: to one. And I know it myself because I mentioned 1019 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 3: that I thought the Sixers were going to get devoured 1020 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 3: by the Raptors, and I've had a few Philly fans 1021 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 3: reminded me when they were down three zero of that prediction. 1022 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 3: So now I'm just quietly waiting for the I've got 1023 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 3: a few I've got a few gifts chamber just in case, chambree. 1024 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: So you think they have to take care of business 1025 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: tonight in trial or you would be liking the Raptors 1026 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: to do the what appeared to be impossible because no 1027 00:43:59,440 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: one had done it. 1028 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the thing. I mean, the Raptors winning 1029 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 3: without Fred on the road pretty convincingly and a long series. 1030 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 3: Embiid has started to show signs of fatigue. Certainly James 1031 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 3: Harden hasn't really his numbers are okay actually, but he 1032 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 3: hasn't had that impact that you expect. So they're right 1033 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 3: now relying again on on a Maxi to have a 1034 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 3: big performance. Had a huge game one remember ages ago 1035 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 3: he had the thirty eight points, and Tobias Harris and 1036 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: you know, there's just a couple of little like things 1037 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 3: that could really blow up in their face. I just 1038 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 3: hope as a basketball fan, I hope we get at 1039 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 3: least seven games of this series. 1040 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: I wonder what the story will be from Darklews this 1041 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: series in seven. 1042 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's stable couldn't play half the games. 1043 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: A good point that'll be that bards in beads some 1044 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: some hurts. Yeah, we had the Haul Van Simmons thing 1045 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: at the start of the Seasonlee Distraction. 1046 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 2: Dark is Painting for the Deeds of Gordon Girichek Intercy 1047 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 2: Forgreedy was averaging thirty one a game in the series. 1048 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: What a Tim I don't know. There's a potential for 1049 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 2: a lot of slander on the internet tonight with regards 1050 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: to the two games we've got go with two of 1051 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 2: these games we got going, I kind of think we'll 1052 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: get into a little bit later. We got the Suns 1053 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 2: seems to be the most straightforward game, Sons versus Pelicans. 1054 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 2: But I mean, if the Jazz lose tonight, that'll be 1055 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 2: a dunk fest. And then obviously if the Rators pull 1056 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 2: off a win against the Six, that's gonna we're gonna 1057 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: be seeing a lot of Gordon dear check are seeing 1058 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: a lot of Drew Gooden. 1059 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: Well, keep going. Who else saw this team? This is great? 1060 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 2: Jacques Vaughan Q. 1061 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. 1062 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 2: Darryl Armstrong, no Doliac yet, Clark, Pat Garrity, Chris Whitney, 1063 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 2: Sean Kemp, Pat Burke, Stephen Hunter, and Jerald Sassar. I 1064 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: still got hope for Jerald Sasso. 1065 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: We put him in our Saint Patrick's Day parody video. 1066 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: That's right, All right, Well there's docs comments. Let's hear 1067 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: from you guys. Are we making a bigger deal out 1068 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: of it than we should be? Is he right? He's 1069 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: just spitting back tell the whole story. Are you concerned 1070 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: that he's even talking about this like we just talked 1071 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 1: about and do you think the Raps can do the 1072 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 1: impossible here tonight at least force a game seven? Only? 1073 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: What three teams in history have even forced the game 1074 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: seven after going down three to zero? Yeah? 1075 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 3: Well, I know it's MAVs, mavsz Blazers, yea mass Blazer 1076 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 3: two thousand and four. 1077 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: I think it's three times in NBA history. 1078 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 3: I think there was a Rocket Suns game series two 1079 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 3: one of those years. I'd have to check, but I 1080 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 3: think it was one of those. 1081 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: Heay, during the break, Okay, maybe get on your old 1082 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: computer there and okay, do a little fact checking. We'll 1083 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: take our final break when we come back. Jedi's got 1084 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: tweeted to night and we will look ahead to those 1085 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: three game sixes. Don't go anywhere. Okay, So you did 1086 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: a little research, Yes, I did? Was I correct? Is 1087 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: it three teams in NBA history have come back from 1088 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: down three h to at least force a game seven? Yes? 1089 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 3: The big one, of course, was who could forget this one? 1090 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 3: The nineteen fifty one NBA Finals Rochester Royals and the 1091 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 3: New York Knicks. Yes, the Royals drop three to zero. 1092 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 3: The Knicks came back fourth to game seven, but the 1093 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 3: Royals went on to win it. Oh ye good serious, 1094 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, only won by four points in game seven, 1095 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 3: seventy nine, seventy five. But the scoring the Blazers MAVs one. 1096 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 3: We did mention in two thousan Threeight. Now, this is 1097 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 3: where it does actually get crazy. Remember in nineteen ninety four, 1098 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 3: the Denver Nuggets came back from two to oh down 1099 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 3: against the Seattle SuperSonics in the first round, the number 1100 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 3: one Seattle SuperSonics and the number eight Nuggets. Now the 1101 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 3: Nuggets in the second round were down three to zero 1102 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 3: to the Utah Jazz and came back and forced a 1103 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 3: Game seven there, lost by ten in the end, but 1104 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 3: incredible in the back to back series the Nuggets, it 1105 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 3: nearly pulled off. Just the miracle there. So we've got 1106 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 3: that de ken be Mutumbo famous. You know, I wonder 1107 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 3: what he would have done in Utah if. 1108 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 1: That was the great question? Okay, so only three times. Yes, 1109 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: it was the nixt coming back against the Royals and 1110 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,479 Speaker 1: fifty one finals. It was this one that you said 1111 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: ninety four. Then Nuggets versus the Jazz and then what 1112 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: was the one the most won? 1113 00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 3: Three maps Blazers. 1114 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: Try it. There you go. I also have some trivia 1115 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: for you guys. Just saw this from Basketball Reference. Good 1116 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: tweet today. In two thousand and two, Antoine Walker of 1117 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics set a record for most three point 1118 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: field goals in a quarter in a playoff game with six. Okay. 1119 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: It came in a loss to the seventy six Ers. 1120 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: Since then, the record has been tied by four other players, 1121 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: all current players. Can you name them? Six three pointers 1122 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: made current in one quarter of a playoff Gamey Thomson No, No, 1123 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: Steph Curry No, that's okay. 1124 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 3: Shocking, Kevin Durant no, Kyrie. 1125 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: No, Damian Lillard correct, Hey, there you go. Hey, hey, hey, hey. 1126 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 6: Paul George Nope, nope, you've got yeah, you're looking for Well, 1127 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 6: we were just talking about this guy, uh in the 1128 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 6: previous segment about his team. 1129 00:48:52,120 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray No, Nicole Michael Yeah, okay. And then you've 1130 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: got one of my favorite players in the league, multiple 1131 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: time All Star, Devin Booker did it. And then this 1132 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: last one I think happened recently. If I have it right, 1133 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 1: what can I say this season. I don't know why. 1134 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 1: My gut says it happened recently, but we didn't talk 1135 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 1: about it. Also, now I'm second guessing myself, so it 1136 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: obviously happened over the last couple of years. Uh, he's 1137 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: got a double initial name, you know, the same bands. Yeah, 1138 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: but not Nick Nurse. 1139 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 5: No. 1140 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you're about to. No, he's a he's 1141 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: a bigger guy, you know, Uh for for a three 1142 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 1: point shooter, of course, hitting six in a quarter, but 1143 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: he lets it fly. He just had a bad game. 1144 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, but it's the white guy. It's an international guy. Sorry, Doc, 1145 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 1: he's got Okay here, I'm gonna really give it away. 1146 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: Someone else has the exact same last name. 1147 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 2: In Bogdana. 1148 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: Gone. Did that just happen or reminds it? 1149 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 6: Like? 1150 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 3: Well, he did have a huge I know against the Maps, 1151 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 3: didn't he had six in a. 1152 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: Quarter though he might yet I don't think that last 1153 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: Well who just somebody just hit five in a quarter. 1154 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: Monty Morris just hit five, right, that's right? 1155 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean Booker in that thirty one point Well 1156 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 3: that was half, that wasn't it. Yeah? 1157 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: Anyway, say there was the Wheels all right, thank you? 1158 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: Basketball reference on trivia. I'll have the music to JD. 1159 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 2: That's beautiful here beautiful if you want to run it back. 1160 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: I got some crazy names from the New York Knicks 1161 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: in the fifties. 1162 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 2: Can you name a single player from the Knicks or 1163 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: from the Rochester. 1164 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,919 Speaker 1: Royals fifty one nineteen fifty one? Was there a Shase player? 1165 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 2: We got no shades. One guy whose nickname is the Horse, 1166 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 2: not Yoka the Horse. 1167 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: Do we know him? 1168 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 2: You would only know that his nickname is the Horse. 1169 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 2: I think I don't know Harry the Horse Gallatin. How 1170 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: about there's only been one NBA player named Kiki in 1171 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 2: NBA history. This guy's his dad played for this team. 1172 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: Well, so what's Kiki's dad's name is? 1173 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 2: Generation? 1174 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 3: It was a bucket man. I wonder what he was like? 1175 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: My favorite name though. 1176 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 2: Pretty much the entire reason I wanted to bring this 1177 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 2: up is there was a guy who played for the 1178 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: nick named Ray Lump. 1179 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: He's He's love show up to Ray Lump. Let's get 1180 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: to tweeted. 1181 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 2: The night streeet o the night. Wow. 1182 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 4: Well the extra trivia kind of cometa. 1183 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: You can talk about Lump. You gotta slip it in right. 1184 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 4: You're right, You're absolutely right. I gotta follow you, guys. 1185 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 4: I gotta follow you guys. So tonight's Twitter tonight comes 1186 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 4: to us. It's a video that was tweeted in from 1187 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 4: Joan marcette Villa. Definitely not pronouncing that properly, but he 1188 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 4: sent us this video posted by Basketballnews dot Com and 1189 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 4: it is of a player named John Holland. Holland Holland. Uh. 1190 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 4: He plays in Turkey for the Fruity Extra Bursaport. But 1191 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 4: that's the name of the team, okay. And all it 1192 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 4: is is just an awesome halftime interview. 1193 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: Enjoy with some dogs with some dogs, not just any dogs, 1194 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 2: with some print bulls, under dogs. We don't care. We 1195 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 2: some print bulls. 1196 00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,720 Speaker 1: Him good luck. 1197 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 4: The wild Eyes. 1198 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's growling going away. 1199 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 3: Did they win the game? That's what I want to do? 1200 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 4: Great question. I didn't go that deeply, not fair enough. 1201 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1202 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 1: I also do like that he's like, we're dogs while 1203 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: he's wearing a dream it says Fruity two d on 1204 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: it the Bills all right. He played in the NBA. 1205 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a Cavalier and he showed up at 1206 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 4: Summer League for a couple of teams. 1207 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 3: Oh, we didn't get him on the show. 1208 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 4: I was pre us at summer Oh I believe, let's 1209 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 4: see here. Oh okay, see twenty twelve Las Vegas Summer League. 1210 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 4: And then he just missed him. Yeah, so we just missed. 1211 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: Him, all right, great, great clip there. 1212 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 4: Dogs. 1213 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: He's got an instagram saying final four coming for it all, 1214 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,919 Speaker 2: probably one I would have to imagine. Oh yeah, oh yes, 1215 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 2: based on that. Also, his instagram name is mister Holland's Opus. 1216 00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 4: I like it. 1217 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Big Richard Dreyfus fan. 1218 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: Tonight's games Guys Sixers Raptors, seven o'clock NBA TV, Philly 1219 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,280 Speaker 1: leads at three to two. We got Sons in New Orleans, 1220 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: trianclose o that series. That one's at seven thirty on 1221 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: t n T. And then the MAVs in Utah is 1222 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: the night cap as the Dallas Mavericks try and wrap 1223 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: up that series. So three three two. Seriously, in all 1224 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: three instances, the road team can end this. How many 1225 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: of these end tonight? None? 1226 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 2: None? None, none. 1227 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,919 Speaker 1: The home team is winning every game tonight. 1228 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 3: Comy Kendrick or Ronnie none, Coy, Robbie Coltrane because I'm 1229 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 3: nuns on the rap. Robbie cochraning, I think you're right. 1230 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 2: I think in the Eric ye. 1231 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: Believe never dropped. We got some you know, references that I. 1232 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,919 Speaker 3: Think Rubby Coltrane was in. What's that one? 1233 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 4: I can't see Coltrane in and none outfit that's the 1234 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 4: that's the thing. Let me look it up, let me look. 1235 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: It out, all right. What do you think I agree 1236 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: with him? Or are some of these endings tonight? 1237 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 2: Well call me Richie Benno, because I think what's I 1238 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 2: still don't know what I do? 1239 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: Just say you he doesn't know what you means, not 1240 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 1: at all. He doesn't want to you want to. 1241 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 2: I would rather keep saying Sons are gonna win. I think, uh, 1242 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna hold off the New Orleans Pelicans tonight. 1243 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 2: It'll be tough one, uh there in New Orleans. But 1244 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the slander like I don't know, 1245 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 2: I mean, the Sixers. It almost feels like at this 1246 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 2: point everybody's expecting the Raptors to win, which may good 1247 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 2: for the Sixers. There's almost no pressure on the Sixers, 1248 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 2: but there's also a ton of pressure on the Sixers. 1249 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: And I just wonder if the Jazz will have like 1250 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 2: one good game, like they like, get some three pointers up. 1251 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,839 Speaker 1: You're playing at home. 1252 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 2: This should be the last stand of the Jazz at least. 1253 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 2: You know, the last time we saw him, they had 1254 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 2: the alley oop from Mitchell to Gobert the last time 1255 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 2: we saw him in Utah, So maybe they'll be able 1256 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 2: to channel that sort of energy as well. But if 1257 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: they lose, people are. 1258 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 1: Gonna be dunking all over them tonight, so that'd be cool. Yeah, 1259 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm with him. I think we get two game seven's 1260 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: coming out of tonight. I think it's well, I'm hoping. 1261 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: I guess that the Raptors beat the Sixers at home 1262 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 1: because that that Arena is going to be going crazy, 1263 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: I would imagine. And then I think that the Jazz 1264 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: are gonna win here and give us a Game seven 1265 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 1: in Dallas. But I also think the Pelicans hell of 1266 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: a fight made it a series. Might be another competitive game, 1267 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: close game, but I think they'll pull it out. Do 1268 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,799 Speaker 1: we know the status on Devin Booker two. I know 1269 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: it was a possibility. 1270 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 2: It was like yelling that he was going to bed. 1271 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that in play, but we'll see. But I 1272 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: have the Suns winning and the Raptors and Jazz giving 1273 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 1: us a game seven? What are you smiling and laughing about? 1274 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: And j D did you figure out. 1275 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 4: What conffirmed that Robbie Coltrane is in fact and Nuns 1276 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 4: on the Run along with Eric Idyl. Uh was his 1277 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 4: name Carlisle? Yeah, he not in it. 1278 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 3: He's in that famous like maybe that's the one. Yeah, 1279 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 3: that's and he was a Bond villain as well, that's uh, yeah, 1280 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 3: he was in uh. 1281 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: Are you guys? You guys are talking about movies from 1282 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: the eighties. 1283 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 3: Run actually, let's see on the Runs probably Edy nine. 1284 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1285 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 2: I don't know Nuns on the Run or the names 1286 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 2: of the people you're saying, Eric Idol, I know, Eric Idol, 1287 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 2: I know. 1288 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 4: But Ronnie Coltrane is in is Hagrid? 1289 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 3: And oh yeah he's also a well he's not a 1290 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 3: Bond villain, he's a Bond associates. Yeah, Golden Eye, I 1291 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 3: think it is. I think I think yeah, yeah, is 1292 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 3: in the. 1293 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: Is that think? 1294 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 3: So? 1295 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? 1296 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 4: Nuns on the Rund nineteen ninety. 1297 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I've never I've never even heard of this. 1298 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 4: Great Yeah, I remember it being in the theater. I 1299 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 4: was nineteen probably I really enjoyed it. 1300 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: Okay, give me the synopsis that you can remember. 1301 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 3: Well, they're criminals, I think the bank robbers or something 1302 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 3: like that, and their disguise is to become nuns because 1303 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 3: obviously nuns are not considered to be criminals. But then 1304 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 3: they have to act as if they're women and not 1305 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 3: men and all the what are the nun nouns in training? 1306 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 3: I guess they're not suspicious of it at all, but 1307 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 3: they you know, their men and they go into like 1308 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 3: the change rooms and things like that pretending they're women. 1309 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: It's it's hilarious. It's got a lot of missus delfire too. 1310 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's there's that poshures com session. 1311 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what no, we should watch all right? 1312 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 4: What else are we doing? The two series down now? 1313 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 4: Like there's not much happening, I mean except for you 1314 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 4: know the rest of the playoffs. 1315 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we all all summer Formula one podcast, our 1316 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: Survivor podcast. There's nothing happening, absolutely right, guys. That's it 1317 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: for today's show. Email in your NBA questions to no 1318 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: dunks at the Athletic dot com. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, 1319 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: TikTok at No Dunksink, Get yourself some no Dunks merch 1320 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: go to No dunks dot com and grab yourself an 1321 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 1: Athletic subscription. Go to the Athletic dot com slash No 1322 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: Dunk's new Survivor podcast coming later today in the No 1323 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 1: Buffs YouTube feed and podcast feed around two pm Eastern 1324 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: if you want to join us live otherwise, we'll flip 1325 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: that into a pod and get it up as soon 1326 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: as humanly possible talking about last night's Survivor episode and 1327 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: tomorrow drop podcast back here in the Classic Factory at 1328 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: ten am Eastern. Yeah, we'll be talking about obviously tonight's games, 1329 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: maybe looking forward to a couple more series that we 1330 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: may or may not know we'll see, and tash me 1331 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 1: back so we'll get the full John Legend report. What 1332 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: I could never tell what Tasks you'll either give us 1333 00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: a good fifteen minutes on it or he'll say, yeah, 1334 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: it's fine, it was great, and that'll be it. So 1335 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: we'll say you'll have to tune in tomorrow to see 1336 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: what type of report we get from the Legend concert 1337 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 1: the Tasks and his wife are at in Vegas over 1338 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: the last couple of days. Until then, Clipper Bros. Lips 1339 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: you heard it here first, have a great time turn up. 1340 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome. Thanks for joining us, And as 1341 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 2: far as I can tell, you can't play as Hagrid 1342 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 2: in Golden Eye. Wait a second, Wait a second, that's him, 1343 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 2: isn't it. 1344 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely can play. 1345 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, now I know what you're talking about. Embrace 1346 01:00:33,840 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: the day, people, m