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Speaker 2: You are listening to episode two hundred and twenty four

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Speaker 2: of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast. Reconnect with everyone from

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Speaker 2: your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about

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Speaker 2: their highest hies, toughest moments, and everything in between. We

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Speaker 1: What does your mindfulness practice look like. Maybe it is

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Speaker 2: some of the things in your life at the time

436
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Speaker 2: that didn't really feel so good. So what happens after

437
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Speaker 2: you pick up your regular meditation practice and get a

438
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Speaker 2: little bit more comfortable with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that it took Wow, I would say it took

440
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: a good four to five years for it to really

441
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Speaker 1: start to take root into my life that I started

442
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: to see the actual changes, you know, I was. Yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: So I started meditating when I was about fifteen sixteen,

444
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: on and off throughout until I graduated high school. And

445
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: it was then I was on a medication for anxiety

446
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: at that time. And so that's earlier I had mentioned

447
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: that I was I was really overweight for my frame,

448
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: and I also was on the McDonald's diet, so that

449
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: was not helpful, right, So, and when you're a teenager, right,

450
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: you eat how you eat, and so for us, that's

451
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Speaker 1: what we did. So I was really going through this

452
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Speaker 1: sort of shift in my yeah, personal space, Like there

453
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: was just some shift that happened when I I just

454
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: didn't feel good in my body, you know. And because

455
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: I was having that time to be still with myself,

456
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: I was finding that there was a negative person living

457
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: in my brain that just was kind of a Debbie

458
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: Downer all the time, and she was just not she

459
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: was just not interested in making me feel good. And

460
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Speaker 1: I started to, yeah, learn more about changing. I was

461
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: always really like against any of the normal things that

462
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: you do, you know, all the dieting and the sort

463
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: of forcing yourself depriving yourself of doing things like I

464
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: did it, but it was always it always felt wrong,

465
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: like didn't feel good to me. It felt like I

466
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: was just not treating myself well. So it took a

467
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Speaker 1: couple of years for me to start learning about healthy eating.

468
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Speaker 1: And there was a trainer that a trainer friend of

469
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Speaker 1: mine that was really into he was getting into Chinese medicine,

470
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Speaker 1: acupuncture and you know, all these different Eastern modalities, and

471
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: he would talk to me about organic foods and how

472
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: this is something that's really good for you and it's

473
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Speaker 1: really helpful, and how important it is for your mental

474
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Speaker 1: well being. And it was sort of all happening in

475
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Speaker 1: conjuncture with the meditation practice and moving my body, and

476
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: so little by little I started to see the differences.

477
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Speaker 1: I started to make different choices. I stopped eating fast food.

478
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Speaker 1: I learned how to cook my own food, and I

479
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: would go to the you know, grocery store and get

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Speaker 1: fruits and vegetables and try and figure out how to

481
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Speaker 1: cook for myself, and little and I started to see

482
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Speaker 1: the difference right away. You know, my body started to change,

483
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: my mind was changing, my energy was changing, and I

484
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: started and then of course everybody notices, right, everybody starts noticing.

485
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Speaker 1: At this time, I was working as a receptionist at

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Speaker 1: a hair salon, and I everybody that I worked with

487
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: was like, what do you do? What are you doing?

488
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: Like what's the secret? Like what is happening? You know?

489
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Speaker 3: And how do you feel about that attention?

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Speaker 1: At the time, I didn't enjoy it at all. Yeah,

491
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't because innately, doesn't it make you feel like, well,

492
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: what was wrong with me before?

493
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Speaker 4: Right?

494
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

495
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, what are you doing? You look right?

496
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: I know that you've been through this transformation before as well.

497
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: It's like that initial what are you doing? Like, tell

498
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: me what you're doing? And as much as you want

499
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: to share, it makes you feel yeah, like why didn't

500
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: you say anything before? And what was so wrong with

501
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: the way that I looked before?

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00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right? So, And I also appreciate the, as I'll call

504
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: it the waterfall effect, that you're articulating the concept that Okay,

505
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: if I do this one thing that feels good for

506
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: me and my body, and I know that's good for me,

507
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: that we feel more excited about the opportunity to do

508
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: other things that are really good for us. I do

509
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Speaker 2: think that it takes a certain level of responsibility and

510
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: awareness as well to not take that a little too

511
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: far at times. Right, But when it starts to cascade

512
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Speaker 2: into a series of really beautiful and beneficial habits, it's

513
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: a really beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. But I think that you said

515
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Speaker 1: something so key too, it's like when we take it

516
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: too far? Because I definitely took it too far, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think that when you're in that experience and you're

518
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Speaker 1: getting that positive, like the positive feedback from people, you

519
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: can't help but get in your head about it. It's like, oh,

520
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Speaker 1: how do I keep this? Then it's like I don't

521
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: want the feedback from you, but then how do I

522
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Speaker 1: keep getting it right?

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Speaker 3: What did taking it too far look like? For you?

524
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Speaker 1: Oh? I was? I started throwing up my food. I was,

525
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, becoming a ballimic.

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Speaker 4: You know.

527
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Speaker 1: It was part of this and at the time, as

528
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Speaker 1: I got older, it became part of this culture of

529
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: working in the beauty industry, right, because you need to

530
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: look a certain way and you need to be a

531
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Speaker 1: certain way, and at the time for me this again,

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Speaker 1: I think that anytime we are doing something that's harming ourselves,

533
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: there's like a higher vantage point that we can see

534
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: what's happening. And oftentimes it's an observation and an awareness

535
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: that we have where we can really either make a

536
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Speaker 1: different decision because we have the higher vantage point of

537
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: seeing what's happening, or we're just observing this like self

538
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: like destruction that is happening. Yeah, So that it was

539
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Speaker 1: interesting as you're saying it, when as we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the feedback, people would, you know, ask me like, oh,

541
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Speaker 1: what are you doing, and I'm like, oh, you know,

542
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Speaker 1: I do yoga and I go throw up like that

543
00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: My that's my health plan, you know. And I'm not

544
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Speaker 1: trying to sound cavalier about having eating disorder. I think

545
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: it's a very serious issue. And I was fortunate at

546
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Speaker 1: the time to have the right people in my circle,

547
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: and I did go to therapy and I did do

548
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot of work around it. And so the reason

549
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Speaker 1: why I say it in the way that I do

550
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Speaker 1: because I knew what I was doing. And I think

551
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Speaker 1: that for me having my meditation practice as my anchor

552
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: point where I could then reflect on what was happening

553
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: really helped keep my focus on that north star. That

554
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: for me was to just keep going like there was

555
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: nowhere to go. It's like, I know, I don't even

556
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: know where I'm going, but I'm just going to keep going.

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Speaker 1: Well, at the time, I was, as I said, working

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Speaker 1: with a therapist, and to me, it wasn't like I

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Speaker 1: from my understanding and my knowledge, so I can only

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Speaker 1: speak to my experience. It didn't. It didn't actually take

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Speaker 1: that long for me to unrob what was beneath the

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Speaker 1: disordered eating. There was a lot of childhood trauma. As

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Speaker 1: I had mentioned earlier, there was just a lot of

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Speaker 1: undealt with emotion and experiences that I think really began

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Speaker 1: to come to the surface as I learned more about

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Speaker 1: mental health and again, you know, different practices like yoga

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Speaker 1: and mindfulness and the neuroscience of how meditation helps, and

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Speaker 1: you know, just the more I learned, the more things

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Speaker 1: made sense to me. And I think I was always

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Speaker 1: the type of person that felt that knowledge is power,

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Speaker 1: and so I just wanted to know more. And I've

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Speaker 1: always innately been such a curious person. So for me,

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Speaker 1: I think it didn't really take very long to to

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Speaker 1: be able to break out of it. You know, I

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Speaker 1: would say it took maybe about a year and a

631
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Speaker 1: half to two years maybe to really work through what

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Speaker 1: was happening, you know, and the ability of the ability

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Speaker 1: to be honest with myself and to be honest with

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Speaker 1: the people around me too, was Yeah, it was a

635
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Speaker 1: huge component in that recovery process for me for sure,

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Speaker 1: And that's.

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Speaker 2: Really commendable and admirable to get to a place where

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Speaker 2: you develop such a sense of understanding on the importance

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Speaker 2: of doing that right, on the importance of opening up

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Speaker 2: to others and being honest with others so that you

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Speaker 2: can move forward yourself. You said before that you knew

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Speaker 2: that you wanted to keep going, but didn't know what

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Speaker 2: you wanted to go toward. When do you figure out

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Speaker 2: what's beyond working as a receptionist at the salon?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, this is the good stuff. I thought

646
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Speaker 1: you were gonna ask now, and I'm like, girl, I

647
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Speaker 1: still don't know, Like, who are we kidding? Come on,

648
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Speaker 1: let's be honest. So after my stint at the salon,

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Speaker 1: we actually I was at this point managing a salon

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Speaker 1: in West Hollywood and Beverly Hills. It was the basis

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Speaker 1: of a reality TV show. So we had done that

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years. That was interesting. After that

653
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: came to a close, I just I was really and

654
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: I'd run a couple of marathons at that point. I

655
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: had already done one yoga teacher training, so I knew

656
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: that wellness was where I wanted to go. I just

657
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: didn't know how I was going to get there. And

658
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: it sort of happened during the two thousand and eight

659
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: recession time the salon ended up closing and I was

660
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: pretty much left with like no job, and I was like, oh,

661
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: we're in a recession, this is the perfect time to

662
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: go into business for myself, you know. And I kind

663
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: of started, but not really. I ended up getting this

664
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: opportunity to work with a celebrity fitness trainer at the time,

665
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: and that is really where I began to really shape

666
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: this idea of creating a platform or a way to

667
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: work with people, you know, because at this point my

668
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: life had really showed me that I wanted to create

669
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: a life in wellness and I didn't at that point

670
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: really care what that looked like. I mean, I was like,

671
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: do I need to go back to school and become

672
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: a psychologist? Like how what does this look like? And

673
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know, at the time, I'm like, well,

674
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: I had gone to college for business marketing and I

675
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: wanted to get into nutrition, and so I did a

676
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: couple of nutrition certifications, and you know, I was just

677
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: kind of doing the small steps while at the same

678
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: time having a full time job to really begin to

679
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: shape this new life, and working with my boss at

680
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: the time gave me really great experience with regard to

681
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: sort of building a business, and so did working at

682
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: the salon, and it just really showed me like what

683
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: was possible, right, It showed me like, oh, this is

684
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: you just need commitment, an idea, and some good support.

685
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's really all you need, you know.

686
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean you also need to figure out

687
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: where the money's coming from.

688
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 3: Right.

689
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: So for you at the time, where was the money

690
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: coming from as you started to build this business acumen?

691
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: So I was on fun employment for after I got

692
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: let go from the salon, So that was you know,

693
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: my sort of like income at the time. But then

694
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: I started to do donation based yoga classes at my house.

695
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: So I'd literally have people in.

696
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: My kitchen, in our kitchen and like in the little

697
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 4: back area, and I would just invite people in our neighborhood,

698
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 4: neighborhood like you know, yoga free yoga donation base.

699
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: So I would do that, and I had acquired a

700
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: couple of private clients and stuff, and so I was

701
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: doing that right before I started working for the Trainer.

702
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: When I was working for the Trainer, I obviously had

703
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: at that point was working full time, so I had,

704
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, a pretty steady income at that point. But

705
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: it's yeah, like those moments where I, you know, have

706
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: two dollars and eleven cents in my bank account and

707
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, how am I going to

708
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: buy groceries wild?

709
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, totally, totally.

710
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: And so you work with the trainer, you gain a

711
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: new sense of a little bit of inspiration here and

712
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: you think to yourself, I'm gonna take over the world or.

713
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Something like that. For me at the time, it was

714
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: really my heart and focus has always been on how

715
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: do I bring this to my people? You know, It's

716
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: like how do I bring this to At the time,

717
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: I was working, so I could afford to do a

718
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: yoga teacher training. I could afford to do certification courses

719
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: because I was working, you know. But actually one of

720
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: the certifications that I did for yoga, like as I

721
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: progressed in my training, because I'm like a five hundred

722
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: hour plus yoga teacher trainer, right so I can train

723
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: people to become teachers. So one of those certifications was

724
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: done as a karma yo. So I was working, like

725
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: donating my time. I'd go work full time. After work,

726
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I'd go and I'd clean the studio and you know,

727
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: do whatever else. The studio needed at the time in

728
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: order to do the training, so you know, you gotta

729
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: hustle a little bit. There's there's that desire right to

730
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: to really want something, and I think that during that

731
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: that process of time, you know, you you really start

732
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: to I don't know, like shape what it is that

733
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: you're wanting and why you're doing what you're doing. You know,

734
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: I I aspired, you know, I had all these like

735
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: at that point, you know, I'd see these like beautiful

736
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: yoga teachers with like long wavy hair, you know, doing

737
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: all these like fun, cool, fancy, flowery poses, and I'm like,

738
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: I want to do that or I want to be

739
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: that way. I want to I want to be like them,

740
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: you know. But you know, knowing like that, that's not

741
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: who I am and that's not me, and it's just

742
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: something fun to aspire to. I would always revert back to, Okay,

743
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: how do I do this? But for my people, like

744
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: if I was going to teach my aunt how to

745
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: create a mindfulness or a meditation practice, like how would

746
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: I tell her to do this? You know? The issue

747
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: for me is I wanted to make I wanted to

748
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: make yoga and meditation and mindfulness accessible to everyone, you know,

749
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: and at the time, there wasn't there wasn't a lot

750
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: of diverse teachers, you know, to look up to. I

751
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: mean there was, I mean we're talking like early two thousands,

752
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, two thousand and six, seven eight,

753
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, it was very much dominated by, you know,

754
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: people that didn't look like me, white people, white women,

755
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: you know. And so to me, that is not an issue.

756
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: But when I'm trying to bring these practices to people

757
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: like me or people that I grew up with, you know,

758
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: they they see it as a leisure sport for people

759
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: that have money. Right. So it's like, I remember trying

760
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: to talk to my dad about meditation and he was like,

761
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: meditations for rich people, and I'm like, what, Like, what

762
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: are you talking about? You know, meditation is for everyone,

763
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: you know. And I went into this whole PowerPoint presentation

764
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: with him about how important it is for him and

765
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: for everybody to do that. And I think that that's

766
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: really in me having that conversation, it created radically loved

767
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm like, no, this is about community,

768
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: this is about connecting, this is about everyone. This is

769
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: about making things accessible so that we can all have

770
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: better mental health, better wellness, more support you know, less stress,

771
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: more positivity, happiness, all of the things you.

772
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: Know, right, right?

773
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: I when you just said radically love the name of

774
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: the book that you wrote, you are radically Loved, a

775
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: healing journey to self love. Your podcast called the Radically

776
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: Loved Podcast. Do you feel as though that title, that

777
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: phrase truly came from feeling as though coming of age

778
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 2: that you were without that, that you weren't radically loved?

779
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that for sure. I always felt that

780
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: love was conditional and it never felt like something that

781
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: was just given. It always felt like it needed to

782
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: be earned. I mean, even up growing up Catholic, right,

783
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: it was God will love you as long as you

784
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: abide by the rules.

785
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: Right.

786
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: If you don't abide by the rules, then you're not

787
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: going to be loved. Right. It's like, you can do

788
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: this as long as you do your chores, or we

789
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: can go here as long as It's just everything was

790
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: so conditional, and so I I just didn't understand there

791
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: were so many paradoxes growing up, because I'm like, how

792
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: is it that God only punishes people when they're bad?

793
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: But then all these people go to church and there's

794
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: all these bad things that still happen to everybody. I

795
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: could and this with me as a five year old

796
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: child having these conversations, right, like, what is wrong? I

797
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: don't understand. It doesn't make sense to me. Something does

798
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: not equate. So I think that having that understanding of

799
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: and and why I loved yoga so much, right, yo

800
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: is the study of paradoxes. You know. I really loved

801
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: learning about the dichotomy between action and result. Right, It's

802
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: like I have it, there is an action and then

803
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: there's a result. So for me, radical love love was

804
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: something that it's a verb, right, It's something that you do,

805
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: but it's also something that you are to be. Radical

806
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: to me was to have the love be unconditional. Are

807
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: you capable of unconditionally loving others? And are you capable

808
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: of unconditionally loving yourself? Yeah?

809
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such a such a beautiful sentiment, right.

810
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: I lately have been revisiting this concept of love and

811
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: thinking about if you want love, then you have to

812
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: be love and you have to provide that love to

813
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: your point unconditionally, the way that you should not be

814
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: impacted by the way that people love you, but rather

815
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: you have the choice to show up how you are

816
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: as your authentic self and what is meant for you will.

817
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: Come back to you.

818
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that now today spoiler alert. I mean,

819
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: you have worked with everyone from elite Olympic athletes and

820
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: NBA NFL players. You've done so many events, so many workshops.

821
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: Your latest venture now working with Headspace. How does it

822
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: feel now when you reflect on the journey that you

823
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: just talked about, thinking about how far you've come and

824
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: where you're at I mean headspaces.

825
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: I've been such a fangirl of Headspace since I have

826
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: twenty twelve like it, so it's been ten years in

827
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: the making. I mean just everything that Headspace stands for

828
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: and was created, you know, it was created with the

829
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: mission in mind to help improve the health and happiness

830
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: of the world. I mean, to me, I'm just like,

831
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: how could I not get on board with this? And

832
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: I love Andy Punningcombe's story and and his books, Like

833
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: I just I was such a fan and so yes,

834
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: like I recently joined the Headspace team in honor of

835
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: Hispanic Heritage Month, and we're we're having we're doing these

836
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: two special meditations. One is honoring our identity and the

837
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: other is connecting to community and so for me, the

838
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: fact that Headspace has not only been an innovator in

839
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: the space of mindfulness, but also the accessibility and bringing

840
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: mindfulness to UH to everyone. I was so excited that

841
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: they wanted to create this initiative to bring meditation to

842
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, different communities and you know, focus on health

843
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: equity and providing you know, culturally competent resources like that

844
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: to me was something that really spoke to me and

845
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: definitely aligned with my ethos. So when I was approached

846
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: with the opportunity, I was you know, I was trying

847
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: to not show how exactly excited I was, but I

848
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: was like, wond I'm like, dude, this is like a dream.

849
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: I just duded you, by the way.

850
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, no, I get it, And like I

851
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: totally hear you, Like you're excited.

852
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 3: But you don't want to let on that you're literally

853
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: over the mood.

854
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: I have one hundred, one hundred percent been there this Also,

855
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 2: you know, you're talking about how great it feels to

856
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: be able to give back to your community. I know

857
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: a few times in our conversation you said the term

858
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: my people.

859
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 3: Who is your person?

860
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh, everyone's my people? All you people listening to this,

861
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: You're my people, That's what I'm saying. It's like my people.

862
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: I'm not. I mean, obviously I'm Hispanic, you know, the LATINX,

863
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: Latin all of my my you know, Spanish speaking non

864
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: Spanish speaking people, like I'm talking culturally, you know. But

865
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: to me when I say my people, just the same

866
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: as when I talk on my podcast, like my people

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Speaker 1: is you everyone? My people? Like it's for everyone, you know.

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Speaker 1: Even the meditations I created for Headspace, like I very

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Speaker 1: specifically say these are for everyone, like everyone is welcome.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that was my main intention behind

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Speaker 1: everything that I do, right it is how could we

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Speaker 1: include everyone that feels like they don't have a place now,

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Speaker 1: specifically to you know, for Hispanic heritage month, Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: there are certain elements that I think are very important

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Speaker 1: to address with regard to the Hispanic community, the LATINX community,

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Speaker 1: and I look, I love all the diversity and inclusion

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Speaker 1: that big companies are folksing on. I think specifically for

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Speaker 1: the Hispanic population, mental health has been the lowest on

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Speaker 1: the list of priorities, and I feel like just with

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Speaker 1: the times and the last couple of years, what we've

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Speaker 1: been through collectively, I think it's so smart to be

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Speaker 1: focusing on, yeah, creating resources and initiatives and making meditation

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Speaker 1: and mindfulness more accessible to everyone. You know, I speak Spanish,

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Speaker 1: and so for me, I'm like, I want there to

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Speaker 1: be more meditations and Spanish, you know. I want to

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Speaker 1: be able to share these meditations with, you know, my

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Speaker 1: little Abualita who's like ninety years old, which she, by

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Speaker 1: the way, still doesn't really know what I do for

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Speaker 1: a living, but it doesn't matter, you know. I want

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Speaker 1: to be able to share with her. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think all of these are are really

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Speaker 1: important things to focus on.

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Speaker 2: Someone comes to your Instagram, they see a self love practitioner,

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Speaker 2: a meditation t shirt, a mindfulness instructor, and you've got

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Speaker 2: something like fifty thousand followers. When you look in the mirror,

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Speaker 2: what is it that you see looking back at you?

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Speaker 1: I really just see a person like all those other

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Speaker 1: followers on there. I mean, I think, to me, the

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Speaker 1: platforms like social media are so fascinating. I'm a people

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Speaker 1: to people person, you know, so social media is really

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Speaker 1: difficult for me because I love to be in a space.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you were just that bold, right, Like I've

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Speaker 1: spoken at that conference a couple of times, and it's

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Speaker 1: like being around humans to me, is is king? You know?

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Speaker 1: That is the or a queen? Should I say? Queen

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Speaker 1: is queen? I love being around humans? So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know, I look in the mirror and I just

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Speaker 1: I see I see somebody who is kind, and I

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Speaker 1: hope that she h I hope that she continues to

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Speaker 1: pursue that that that compass. You know, do I know

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Speaker 1: where I'm going?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I don't uh what you were saying earlier. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: are you asking now or before? Because I still am

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Speaker 1: trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hear that.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Winding down here, Rosie, right now, you have an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to offer yourself a piece of advice, looking back on

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Speaker 2: the dark time in your life, bobbing and weaving, You're

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Speaker 2: all over the place, knowing what you know.

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Speaker 3: Now, what do you tell yourself in that Hurtle moment?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I would just say, don't get discouraged and just

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Speaker 1: keep going.

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Speaker 3: Keep going, keep going. Rosie.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad that we were able to connect for

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Speaker 2: this chat, and I'm happy that we got to have

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Speaker 2: you on the show.

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Speaker 3: How do the Hurdlers follow along with you. How to

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Speaker 3: keep up with you? Give me all of your details.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, you can follow me anywhere and everywhere. It's

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Speaker 1: Rosia Costa on Instagram, or you can just go to

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Speaker 1: radicallylove dot com. If you haven't downloaded the Headspace app,

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Speaker 1: definitely download it and check it out. There's so many

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Speaker 1: practices on there, from managing stress to improving sleep, increasing positivity,

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Speaker 1: helping with focus. I mean, there's so many, so many

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Speaker 1: tools there. And you can also search for my name

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Speaker 1: in the search box and do my meditations on the

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Speaker 1: Headspace app.

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Speaker 3: Love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Emila Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another

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Speaker 2: Hurdle Conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.