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Speaker 1: To the drive. I am Dale Lulli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and met. The Steelers game in Cleveland went

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Speaker 1: pretty much how we expected it to go, other than

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, people were up in arms, and I

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Speaker 2: get it, it's Monday. They didn't play well. Everyone thought

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Speaker 2: they could just roll it out there against the third string,

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought they played well enough to win that game.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, in most phases except for one, except for one.

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Speaker 2: Steeler passing game is a disaster right now. But anyone

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Speaker 2: that's shocked today that the script of that game went

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Speaker 2: the way it did isn't paying attention. I mean like

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Speaker 2: they could play that game ten times and they no

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Speaker 2: one might get to twenty points. I mean, it's that's

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Speaker 2: how they were designed to play in that building against

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Speaker 2: a great defense. Now, I'm not making excuses for anybody,

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Speaker 2: but everyone on the planet saw that coming. It was

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Speaker 2: the lowest over under like in the When.

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Speaker 1: We predicted it last week, we predicted a sixteen thirteen win.

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Speaker 1: The Browns got to the thirteen, which is what we predicted.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers just didn't get to the sixteen.

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Speaker 2: And now we know much more about both teams, and

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Speaker 2: if they played again tomorrow, I would probably pick thirteen ten,

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Speaker 2: lot of punts. I mean that's that game would be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. You know, if you told me that

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Speaker 1: the Steelers would rush for one hundred and seventy two yards,

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Speaker 1: win the turnover battle, hold the Browns under one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Rushing yards, I'll take my chances on.

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Speaker 1: I'll take my chances on that they won that game.

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Speaker 1: If you told me that they forced Dorian Thompson Robinson

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Speaker 1: was that much forty three? Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean they weren't super high degree difficult.

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Speaker 1: No, it was all, you know, get the ball out

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Speaker 2: Or to be in it. I mean they were in it.

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Speaker 1: And you know even when they came down their last

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I stopped writing the game story

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Speaker 1: game is over on Steelers dot Com. I'm putting the

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Speaker 1: lead in there that, Okay, the Steelers pulled out another one.

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Speaker 1: They'd won nine games in a row, nine to one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it did have that feel at that point in

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Speaker 1: You know that the momentum had shifted the Steelers clearly.

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Speaker 1: He was like four for seventeen at that point in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they figured out I think real quick.

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Speaker 2: The Browns offense, to me, threw the entire kitchen sink

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Speaker 2: And Steelers adjusted in the second half and realized they

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Speaker 2: we got. And then the Steelers quickly figured that out

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Speaker 2: and the defense was good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just didn't get anything out of the passing game.

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Speaker 2: I'm torn. And again, you'd have to be in the walls,

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Speaker 2: Kenny's head to know the answer. But I'm sure it

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Speaker 2: there's stats and tape that just shows Mike Comlin doesn't

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Speaker 2: He has one job every Sunday for sixty minutes is

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Speaker 2: percentage of the time they make the opponent. Now, does

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it might. Is it making him

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Speaker 2: but that needs to be figured out because frankly, when

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Speaker 1: And I mean, it is a bottom line business, and

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Speaker 1: In this game the exact same thing. People, Well, why

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Speaker 2: I think that's some Monday morning quarterbacking, like they weren't

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Speaker 1: And you got what you wanted out of it. You

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Speaker 1: Everybody has to be negative about everything.

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Speaker 2: So that always stink and somebody always has to lose.

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Speaker 2: That's all by design to get Pickens one on one

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Speaker 2: roll it out there, and it's not that league works,

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Speaker 2: especially against that defense in that building. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: a tough game.

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Speaker 1: Oh. By the way, you get Maka Fitzpatrick back this week,

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Speaker 1: which would be nice and helpful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, been helpful last couple of weeks. But defense adjusted

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Speaker 2: pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I thought the defense defense. I thought

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Speaker 1: the defense played well, well enough, well enough to win

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Speaker 1: that game. I mean, he gave up two hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty two hundred and fifty nine total yards in that game.

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Speaker 1: Again to a team that runs the ball as well

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Speaker 1: as anybody, and there's a number two rushing offense in

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Speaker 1: the league, and you held them under one hundred yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: again with a running quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you said that on Friday, we would have

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Speaker 2: taken all those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what I had, I had The stats

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Speaker 1: are in my five they gave up to the Browns

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Speaker 1: running backs. It was very little. It was less than

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Speaker 1: three yards of carry. Yeah, if you I mean Tom

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Speaker 1: and Robinson had three carries for twenty yards against him.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise it was twenty six carries for seventy six.

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Speaker 2: Yards and even three for twenty whatever from DTR.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that bad? And that's where the one yard you know,

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Speaker 1: eight yard end around by by Cedric Tillman as well

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Speaker 1: the running backs when when Cleveland ran up or lined

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Speaker 1: up and just tried to run the football, Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: couldn't do it consist.

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Speaker 2: Their normal level, right, No, no, with a running quarterback.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: One. Thing was really interesting to me about that game too,

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Speaker 2: was the first half time to throw for DTR was

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Speaker 2: two point one.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's getting out ridiculous, ridiculously fast, and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: are playing some soft zones early they tightened up considerably.

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Speaker 2: Like I was critical early, I'm like, why you guys

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Speaker 2: playing off? I mean, like the pass rush can't even

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Speaker 2: get home in two point one for example, Folks, everyone

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Speaker 2: talks about like Ben's last year that's faster than Ben's.

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Speaker 1: Faster than them. I mean it was just like stand

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Speaker 1: up and throw the football, like.

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Speaker 2: You almost didn't have to block water high Smith, Like

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Speaker 2: they can't take that many steps in two point one

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Speaker 2: seconds almost. So then they adjusted to that part and

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Speaker 2: took away the first read stuff. Then they're passing and

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Speaker 2: kind of evaporate. It's just yeah, yeah, last drive wasn't

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Speaker 2: great obviously.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean that we knew that game was coming.

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Speaker 1: Complete more passes, Complete more passes. It's really simple for

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Speaker 1: me complete more passes, which you should be able to

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Speaker 1: do as an NFL team.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and if you don't, then maybe you consider changes,

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Speaker 2: but you get you have to complete more passes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. Anyways, that's we're gonna get to get to

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Speaker 1: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 3: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 3: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 3: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is Matt Williamson, and

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Speaker 1: this is the Drive. On Steelers Nation Radio and Matt

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Speaker 1: The Steelers made some roster moves here today. They've signed

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Speaker 1: safety Trent and Thompson to the active roster. I consider

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Speaker 1: what was Yeah, I mean, you know, when we watched

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Speaker 1: him play and I thought he had a good preseason

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Speaker 1: much yeah, yeah, caught my eye, you know, good enough

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Speaker 1: to be on your practice squad, comes in, makes plays now.

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Speaker 1: But I would have said, you know, and I wrote

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Speaker 1: this in my ten thoughts, like if if you told

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Speaker 1: me in week ten, Trent and Thompson will be tied.

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Speaker 1: We tied with TJ. Watt and Alex high Smith as

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Speaker 1: your second leading tackler in the game against the Browns,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing you probably lost that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right right, But oh, in oh, I think

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Speaker 2: he's a keeper, you know, yeah, especially if Benka comes back,

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Speaker 2: and you know those things too. I don't even play

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Speaker 2: every snap, you know, but I assume he's good for

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Speaker 2: Danny Smith. I don't know that answer, but he gets involved.

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Speaker 1: They also signed Miles Jack and Eric Rowe to their

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Speaker 1: practice squad.

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Speaker 2: I knew there was rumors of Jack interesting, so I

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Speaker 2: assume he wants to play because he saw retired or yes,

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Speaker 2: he did retire. I assume he's reasonably healthy because he's

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Speaker 2: had stuff pretty much his whole career. Knows the defense, right,

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Speaker 2: He's useful, okay, and Rose been.

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Speaker 1: Around the league too.

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Speaker 2: Rose a big corner safety type, and I'm gonna do

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Speaker 2: more homework on him now they they signed him, but

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Speaker 2: he's a veteran.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that Michael Walker played yesterday. They were

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Speaker 1: rotating guys in and out of there yesterday a lot Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Roberts played every defensive snap yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He was really good. Yeah, I mean, I think he's

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest takeaways for fifteen tackles in the

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Speaker 2: fifteen tackles, I think a couple of the more tackles

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Speaker 2: for losses too. So yeah, he played really well and

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Speaker 2: this was a good matchup. Well, not necessarily. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: say this was a good matchup for him because they

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Speaker 2: were running team and rookie quarterback. But they throw short

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Speaker 2: all the time at the linebacker level, so maybe it's

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Speaker 2: not and often than Nadjoku in his neck of the

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Speaker 2: woods and that type of thing. And he played great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but I just don't know that I

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Speaker 1: on him playing seventy three defensive snaps every game, that's

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: He did it well this time on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you look at that, I mean he

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Speaker 1: was he was number one. Trenton Thompson had six tackles,

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Speaker 1: as did Porter, Watt and high Smith. You know, those

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Speaker 1: guys are good. Keanu Benton was was good once again

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Speaker 1: once again. Yeah, you know, Hayward showed up and made

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Speaker 1: some plays. The defense is rounding in the shape now

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to talk about Porter briefly because Mariy

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Speaker 2: Cooper is a difficult He's a handful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think people realize how big he is.

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Speaker 2: He's He's like the six pick of the draft.

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Speaker 1: He's like a six one fifteen pound two and twenty

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Speaker 1: pound receiver, pretty rocked up.

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Speaker 2: With like shoulders and arms and physical.

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Speaker 1: Much bigger than Joey Porter Junior in terms of ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it, No doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: That's so that's a tough, tough assignment. Was he perfect

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Speaker 2: against Cooper? Far from it. I think it was a

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Speaker 2: great learning experience. I mean, there was a veteran that's

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Speaker 2: better around the block, that's got a lot of balls

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Speaker 2: in this league. But I thought he handled him pretty well, well,

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Speaker 2: pretty well. I mean it was a perfect no, but

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a successful outing against Cooper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think you see him on chase this week?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: See, I was thinking about that just this morning. I

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Speaker 2: was like, if Higgins plays, maybe that's the matchup and

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Speaker 2: then you try to minke a up chase or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But that's also more of a Burrough thing, like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what. I mean, you basically got

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Speaker 1: about what a half to look at what. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Bengals were offensively and again they didn't game plan to

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Speaker 1: have the backup quarterback in the game. No, I would

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Speaker 1: almost expect to see something similar to what we just saw. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now I don't want well a single chase with Levi

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Speaker 2: all day, no, you know, because I mean this guy's

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Speaker 2: if he's wide open, that's problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't matter who the quarterback is. But

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Speaker 2: in terms of matchups, I think Porter, in terms of length,

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Speaker 2: style vers Higgins is pretty interesting. Yeah, you know, that's

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Speaker 2: just my preliminary thoughts.

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Speaker 1: That's if Higgins plays, I mean, they made he made

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Speaker 1: he may just say, I thought to me watching the

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Speaker 1: game against the Ravens, lost leicest Thursday. It seems like

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Speaker 1: us forever ago I had the Bengals quit in the

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Speaker 1: second half.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a strong word for any athlete, but

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Speaker 2: the wind was. They were deflated and they know where

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Speaker 2: their bread's buttered, and the bread just crumbled.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so, so Higgins, if you're Higgins and you're

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Speaker 1: going to be a free agent at the end of

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Speaker 1: the year, and well, we don't have a quarterback in there,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go out and put up, you know,

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Speaker 1: two catches for twenty yards Jake Browning at quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: think the Bengals may be making golf reservations, especially if

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Speaker 1: they lose this one. So yeah, just don't allow them

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Speaker 1: to hang around, and you don't let them hang around

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Speaker 1: by completing more passes. There we go. That's the word,

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Speaker 1: the words of the day. Complete more passes.

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Speaker 2: Three shows this week, it's Thanksgiving and we're not We're

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Speaker 2: on a show Friday, so we're in for Thursday or Thursday. Right,

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Speaker 2: So you got three drives this week.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear those words a lot. Complete more passes.

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Speaker 2: Still, six hours of mattin Dale coming at you. Complete

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Speaker 2: more passes is going to come out of our mouths

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think, Yes, yep, it has to happen. It has

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Speaker 1: to happen. You have to find a way to complete

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Speaker 1: more passes. But you should be able to run the

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Speaker 1: football against the Cincinnati team. Again, you've done it. You

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Speaker 1: just did it against Cleveland a much tougher defense, much

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Speaker 1: tougher like the day backwards this year. Yeah. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: they've also allowed a lot of explosives from what I've

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Speaker 1: gathered too, So they have their issues and their offense

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be win in time possession very much either at

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Speaker 1: this point. Yeah. So you know, I I look at

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Speaker 1: that game yesterday and again everything was there on the table.

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Speaker 1: I asked Mason Cole after the game. I said, Mason,

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Speaker 1: if I told you you guys would run for one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two yards, you'd win the turnover battle,

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Speaker 1: you'd hold Cleveland under one hundred rushing yards. He probably

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Speaker 1: put a lot of money on it. He probably tell

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Speaker 1: me that you guys won the game. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: complete more passes, If you complete more passes, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's such a symbiotic relationship between everything. You can't just

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Speaker 1: do one thing in the NFL, can't consist.

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Speaker 2: Of the wins of deficiency. It was a massive deficiency. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so they did do good things. I know that nation

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Speaker 2: thinks to the world, the sky is falling. I don't

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Speaker 2: see it that way. I really don't even view the

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Speaker 2: team much differently than I did three days ago. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of what.

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Speaker 1: The game played out as we expected it too. They

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Speaker 1: just didn't win it.

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Speaker 2: They didn't win it right, And maybe.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we had gotten to the point where because they

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Speaker 1: had won nine one score games. I thought about that

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Speaker 1: as I was as I was rewriting my lead to

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Speaker 1: have the Browns winning it. He just he just assumed

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Speaker 1: that they were going to find a way to win it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I was texting a good body of mine and

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Speaker 2: he said it was probably like mid third quarter, and

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Speaker 2: he said, this is starting to smell like a stealer

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Speaker 2: victory again. And I'm like, it it is. You know,

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Speaker 2: this has been the formula. It's easy to kill them

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Speaker 2: and all the bad things that are happening, but this

651
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 2: is starting to smell like one. And I was believing too, like,

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to pull this thing out.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't.

654
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean, and you're rocking a razors edge the way

655
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: they play, and that's you're not gonna win them all, just.

656
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: Not you just yeah, that's just I mean, I thought,

657
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: really the difference in obviously the difference in the game

658
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: was Cleveland's defense. Yeah, but the Steelers defense wasn't far

659
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: behind them in terms of, you know, the most the

660
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: best units on the field. And I thought the steel again,

661
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers ran the ball way more effectively than Cleveland did, absolutely,

662
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: which would have been then.

663
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: The two biggest keys I think going into the game

664
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: were turnover battle be the better running team, and they

665
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: were both. They were both, you know, but they were

666
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: far from a perfect team. You knew that game was

667
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: going to be yucky and low scoring and all that.

668
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: If they played it one hundred times, it would be

669
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: very similar to me. And they go their way, but

670
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: more passes.

671
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: Complete, more passes. Keep coming back to that, Yeah, just

672
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: keeps coming back to that one.

673
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: That's what you've got to figure out here quickly.

674
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. If you look at and we've done this here

675
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks, if you look at the

676
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: team DVAS Steelers defense is now number seven they in

677
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: the league in DVA and continually moving and continually rising. Yeah,

678
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: and you get make it back, and you get make

679
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: it back. The offense now has risen the fourteenth in

680
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: the league. Are they really?

681
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm based on a running.

682
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: Game based on how well you're able to run the ball.

683
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: They actually went up from twelve to eleven in total

684
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: team DVA really after this game, after this game, see

685
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: because they realize how good the Browns defense is. THO, right,

686
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: they're number one, and they're number one by a lot.

687
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: I bet they're number one by a toime. Like, I

688
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: don't know what it is off the top of my head,

689
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: but how they're playing right this minute. I think San

690
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: Francisco's the only one that's in their stratosphere. But I

691
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: think the Browns are the best defense in the league.

692
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Cleveland is minus twenty nine point eight. Now remember minus

693
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: is good. Yeah, the lower below zero you are the better.

694
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: So you know, i'd love to see the home road

695
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: splits on that. Yeah, you said, I'll bet, I'll bet

696
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: it's like minus forty at home.

697
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: Did you sort it by defense?

698
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: I did?

699
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Let's go one to who all is the Steeler played? Okay,

700
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: they played it's the most difficult slate. They played number

701
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: They played one twice twice that was Cleveland. Number two

702
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: is Baltimore. They're at minus twenty two point nine. Played them,

703
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: They played them. Then you get Dallas at minus twelve

704
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: point nine.

705
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Think about that. The difference between one and three is.

706
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: They played the best two. They're by a wide march.

707
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: By a wide margin because Baltimore sen games. Yeah, Baltimore's

708
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: at minus twenty two point nine.

709
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: Their games have come against those two teams.

710
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Then you have Kansas City at minus twelve point six,

711
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: the Jets at minus eleven, Jacksonville at minus eleven, played them.

712
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: That's four of your tech ten games games. Then San

713
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: Francisco is right behind the Steelers at eight. They're minus

714
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: seven point three. You played them, Yeah.

715
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: And they look great now, and they looked great at

716
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year when you played them. They

717
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: had a stretch there where they were struggling a little bit,

718
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: but that's not when the Steelers got them.

719
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Minnesota is actually ninth now minus six point five,

720
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers coming at minus seven point nine, by the way, folks.

721
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: Then you have Detroit at number ten at minus four

722
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: point one.

723
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: They're only so again, they've played fifty schedule has been

724
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: against the best defense against defenses.

725
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: Now, they've got a couple coming up here. Obviously they

726
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: have to play Baltimore again. And then you look at

727
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: it Indianapolis. Though, Indianapolis is thirteenth at minus point six.

728
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: They're basically like average, a league average defense. New England

729
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: is right in the middle of league average. They're zero,

730
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: they're fourteenth. What Cincy, I mean, I bet they're twentieth

731
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: or so. They are twenty second plus four point one.

732
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: That Raiders defense that the Steelers had a pretty good

733
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: game against.

734
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: They're sixteenth, So they're not as horrible as people think either, right.

735
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee comes in at twenty. The Steelers move the ball

736
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: pretty consistently against them.

737
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Not here in thirty thirty one, thirty two.

738
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the bottom is Denver, Arizona. They're

739
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: on the schedule here a couple. You should move the

740
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: ball at Washington. That's a bad defense. Yeah, the Chargers, Carolina,

741
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: the Giants, Atlanta, Chicago, green Bay comes in at twenty four.

742
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: They've only played one of those.

743
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: They played one of those teams in the bottom. Yeah,

744
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: the bottom half of the league. I knew that they

745
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: had the hardest schedule thus far. EPA, DVA whatever, I

746
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was that strong. So you're six and

747
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: four at this point. The thing about it is some

748
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: of these teams that you play, like Arizona, now it's

749
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: different with Kyler Murray. They're thirty first in defensive DVA.

750
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: They're twenty seventh in offensive DBA. They're better than that, though,

751
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: they're better than that now. But are they markedly better?

752
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: Like you should be there a league average offense.

753
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you should be able to control with your defense.

754
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: You should be able to control that.

755
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: I would think so. I think they're more of a

756
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: test now than I would have guessed when the schedule

757
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: came out.

758
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: The other thing about it, Matt, if you think about

759
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: it from this perspective, the Steelers are seventh in defensive DVA.

760
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: They're still on the negative side of time of possession.

761
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: I'll bet you they're the only team in the top

762
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: ten that is losing the time of possession battle every

763
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: single game. I can almost guarantee it. I can almost

764
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: guarantee it.

765
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: And the big thing I was hard my key to

766
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: last week was these plays per game situation, you know,

767
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: play differential and they went backwards again. You know, the

768
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: Browns out snapped them by nineteen or twenty yeah, something

769
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: like that.

770
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean time of possession though, was almost it was

771
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: like just a shade over thirty to twenty.

772
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: Nine isn't as bad, No, And actually time of possession

773
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: for the Steelers, that's the one thing I've done for

774
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: stats going forward. They're very low. They're like twenty eighth

775
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: or twenty ninth or whatever. But their last three games

776
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: is like right around thirty. They're like about the league average,

777
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: So that part's getting better. You can't get out snapped

778
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: by I think they're now up to like ninety five

779
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: more snaps on defense and offense. I mean that's a

780
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: bad trend, but.

781
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: That should turn around. That should turn start to turn

782
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: around this week.

783
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Start turn around, and it should turn around this way.

784
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: It should turn around this weekend. It should so good.

785
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: It should turn around against the Cardinals. Oh yeah, yeah,

786
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, it should turn around against New England. Like

787
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if we're sitting here a month

788
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: from now and we're talking about how the Steelers have

789
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: even that out.

790
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: I think that'll it won't be the drastic change it

791
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: was last year, where you go like worse to fifth

792
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: in a short amount of stretch, but I would think

793
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: you start to win time of possession games, not battle evenly.

794
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: The Brown's the hardest team in the league to do

795
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: that against though, their number one in time possession, and

796
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: they run the ball, and they run the ball like crazy,

797
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: and their defense is awesome, and they've run like one

798
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 2: hundred and now like probably around one hundred and eighty

799
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: five more plays than their opponents, which is insanity. It's

800
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: three games worth.

801
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: In the grand scheme of things. The Steelers fall from

802
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: fifth in the playoff standings in the AFC down to seventh. Seven. Yeah,

803
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: they're now behind Cleveland and Houston in those wild card spots. Now,

804
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: Houston Houston as a tiebreaker on you can't do anything

805
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: about that at the moment. Cleveland does. No, they don't,

806
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: they don't have the tiebreaker. So if you can win

807
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: some of these games here, you'll get ahead of the

808
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: Browns again. You need Houston to lose. It would be

809
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: nice if they do. Yeah, Unfortunately, don't you know. It

810
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: is what it is. You know, as things stand right now,

811
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: Kansas City's the one seed, Baltimore is the two. Yeah,

812
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: I think they're both pretty safe. Jacksonville's the three Jacksonville

813
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: plays Houston next week for AFC North number one. That's

814
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: on the line there, AFC South South. Yeah, because Houston

815
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: beat Jacksonville the first time around, convincingly, convince like thirty

816
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: one to fourteen, convincingly in Jacksonville.

817
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: Jackson Jackson and Ie win yesterday.

818
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: Then you got Miami at four. They didn't look particularly

819
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: great yesterday.

820
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I think the Bills might be able to catch them.

821
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: But the Bills are in a whole potentially, I mean,

822
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: to win the division.

823
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: The Raiders are playing better now than they did under

824
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: m They must they must have just hated McDaniel. Yeah,

825
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: they've been they've been a much different team.

826
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: But they're probably dead now.

827
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you still got the Bills are sitting there

828
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: with with five conference losses, Like, are they going to

829
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: catch you? The Bills still scare me because I think

830
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: they're capable of greatness. The Bengals don't scare me anymore.

831
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: The Chargers don't scare me anymore. You got the Colts

832
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: at five and five, you play them, you get a

833
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: chance to play them and maybe knock them out of contention.

834
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: Denver's now at five and five, but they're two and

835
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: four in the conference. That's they went five in row

836
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: and they're playing pretty well. They play Cleveland next week. Yeah,

837
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: where's that at you happen it's in Denver. I might

838
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: pick Denver in that game.

839
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Pick Denver in that game where we looked at it before, we're.

840
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: Like, Ben, Yeah, but they might do you They might

841
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: do your favor. The thing with Denver's be a lot

842
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: of points in that game. There's definitely not you start

843
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: looking at Denver. They've got Cleveland, then they're at Houston.

844
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: They could at the Chargers, at the Lions, Patriots at home,

845
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: Chargers at home, and then at the Raiders. I mean,

846
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: they're not going to be in it, in it, in it, no,

847
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't think. But they could beat some they you

848
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: know they you beat the Browns this week, okay, or

849
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: you know you go to Houston next week. You got

850
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: an opportunity here for that Denver team. Cause problem probably not.

851
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they do have both of their games with

852
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: the Chiefs out of the way, which is good for them,

853
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: and they won one of them.

854
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: That's true. But but they can cause waves in the AC.

855
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, are they gonna are they gonna go three? And oh?

856
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: The rest of the way in their division. Probably not,

857
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: probably not. But the Chargers losing yesterday.

858
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: Chargers could have a new head coach. Raiders already have

859
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: a new head coach. Probably has worked out well for them.

860
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: The Chargers are in trouble.

861
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Denver still has to play Detroit. They get

862
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: some tough games from me. I don't think they can't. Yeah,

863
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: I think they're punching above their their wake us right now.

864
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: And see I love Josh Dobb's death, but fumbles, the.

865
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: Fumbles, the fumbles matter. I mean he is loose with

866
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: the football. Yeah, that was That was the difference in

867
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: that game. It really was. But we gotta get to

868
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. And usually we save this for

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Speaker 1: a fantasy segment, but since we only have three shows

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Speaker 1: this week, Matt, I thought we'd take a look at

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Speaker 1: what next week's schedule looks like. Okay, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know yet.

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Speaker 2: We've got three games obviously on Thursday, and a Black Friday.

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Speaker 1: Black It's going to be a really Black Friday game

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Speaker 1: as well. So he got green This is a Thanksgiving lineup,

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Speaker 1: which actually not a pretty decent Yeah. Yeah, you got

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Speaker 1: green Bay at Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay's playing pretty well. They're in the playoff hunt.

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Speaker 2: They win that one. I mean there'll be a dog,

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Speaker 2: but they win that one there in real goods.

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Speaker 1: Detroit is usually pretty good on at home period. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then you've got I think this is their first eight

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Speaker 1: and two starts this nineteen sixty two.

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Speaker 2: I'm you're right, I know JFK was president. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The second game is you got Washington at Dallas Washington's

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Speaker 1: Washington Dak Prescott might throw for four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: yards and they run it up too. Yeah, they don't

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Speaker 1: really do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Chargers in Washington to me, it might be

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Speaker 2: time to say, hey, Eric b Enemy, Hey Kellen Moore,

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Speaker 2: why don't you be the head guy in audition for

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Speaker 2: next year? I could see that being on the horizon.

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Speaker 2: You won't do it with a Thursday game this week, though.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Kellen Moore as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't either, But I don't think Staley is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's getting We're pretty sure Staley's not. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm more into the enemy camp. And then

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Speaker 1: the nightcap San Francisco at Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, that's a good one. So could you do me

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Speaker 2: a favor and just click on Seattle real quick? Their

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Speaker 2: next four games, oh, it's ridiculous, is insane. It's it's

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Speaker 2: an insane Like they just lost a tough one, missed

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Speaker 2: a field goal with one second left against the Rams.

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Speaker 2: The Rams are alive and Gino Smith got hurting again,

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Speaker 2: he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now they got the Niners in two days, and

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Speaker 1: then I know the next three are insane too, then

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Speaker 1: they're at the Cowboys at the forty nine ers again,

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Speaker 1: and then they have the Eagles at home, maybe without

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Speaker 1: their quarterback, Like they think that they think he's going

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Speaker 1: to play. He came back and they think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be okay. But even so, even so, that is a

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Speaker 1: rough at stretch, including the one yesterday that's like, uh

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Speaker 1: was a Buffalo stretch where they got to play Philadelphia Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I think Buffalo has Philly next week by Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: And in Dallas and then Dallas thanks a lot. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's your Thursday schedule. On Friday, you've got Miami

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Speaker 1: at New York. New York's making the Jets. They're making

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Speaker 1: a quarterback change for that game. Yay. Honestly, what is

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Speaker 1: the viewing public done for this New yek to deserve

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Speaker 1: watching New York? The Jets go out there and not score.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about inept offense? The Jets went

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Speaker 1: forty consecutive possessions possessions with out scoring an offensive touchdown?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, was that the Romo game?

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Speaker 1: That was?

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Speaker 2: I read zone it and have a couple of screens going.

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Speaker 2: Whoever the color commentator was was just like floored by

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Speaker 2: the stats, Like it was almost like the first time

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Speaker 2: he heard it and it was like, really, wow, I've

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Speaker 2: never heard of such a thing, like just like flabbergasted.

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Speaker 1: And they're playing Miami, which.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami d is pretty good. I mean, Jets aren't

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Speaker 2: going to score points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there, you know, Jets pass defense better

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Speaker 1: be ready to uh yeah, I still trust Miami's passing

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Speaker 1: offense to get it done there. Uh. Then Sunday, you

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Speaker 1: got the Saints at Atlanta. Okay, that's a big man,

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Speaker 1: that's a big rivalry game. Yeah, that could be. I

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Speaker 1: mean that has a lot to do with that division. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Falcons, Falcons going back to Desmond Ritter at quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see about Derek Carry's Yeah, he still banged up.

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Speaker 1: And then you have Steelers at Cincinnati, Carolina and Tennessee

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Speaker 1: y yuck. Tampa is at Indianapolis. That could be an

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Speaker 1: entertaining game, entertain game. Yeah, uh new Eand how about

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Speaker 1: this stinker. The Patriots are are at the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Giants won yesterday. Washington's defense is horrendous, but it took

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Speaker 2: them six Washington turnovers to yeah, field a reasonable squad.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville's at Houston another one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's for the division. That's a great game.

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Speaker 1: That's a great game. You get it at four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland at Denver. That's a pretty good game too, and

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Speaker 1: actually mean stuff. Yeah, you got the uh Chargers are

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Speaker 1: at Arizona.

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Speaker 2: It could be a fun game.

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Speaker 1: There'll be some points, it'll be some points scored. Kansas

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Speaker 1: City is at Las Vegas. Gotcha after a short week though. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then you got Buffalo at Philadelphia. Great game. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the last of the four o'clock games. The night game.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's the Rams at Arizona. I got the I

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Speaker 1: always do that the Rams logo. Yeah, it kind of

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Speaker 1: looks like the Chargers do the same thing. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: it looks like a little lightning bowl.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 1: So you got Buffalo at Philadelphia at four twenty five

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Speaker 1: on a short week for the Eagles. Yeah. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: then you've got the night game is Baltimore at the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: M Monday Nights game. My Monday Nights game is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a tough watch. You got Chicago at Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Oh I disagree. I think the Bears were pretty fun yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Fields is back, Herbert's back. They almost beat the Lions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, defenses almost beat Yeah, I know, I mean they were.

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Speaker 1: They were two touchdowns with four minutes left and lost

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're the worst even the league comings.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think they are either, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: not the most who they playing again, minister, they're playing

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Speaker 1: the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Vikings had a tough one, but they're still in

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Speaker 2: the playoff unt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Jefferson's back?

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Speaker 1: It could be. Yeah, so overall, not a bad slate.

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Speaker 1: And then you right, no, buys, if we're looking for

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Speaker 1: some DFS streaming defenses there, we should be able to

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Speaker 1: find some. I'm sure you might even be able to

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Speaker 1: start the Patriots this week. Panthers. No, they play the Giants. Yes,

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Speaker 1: definitely Patriots. I think I love the start the Patriots. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: so good day, good week to do some some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. And the streams and defenses are chiefs. Chiefs at Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know you look at h Saints at Atlanta

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Speaker 1: against Ritter. Oh yeah, I think just like that Detroit

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Speaker 1: against Green Bays. Nice, that's not bad. They'll get to

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Speaker 1: love a little bit. Dallas is Washington there, you're already

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Speaker 1: playing them anyways, you're probably not playing the Seahawks Miami

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Speaker 1: against New York. You start dumping Seahawks d if you

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Speaker 1: have the Dolphins, might be the start of the week.

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Speaker 1: That's against Tim Boyle that yeah. Yeah. Steelers, Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: there's some there's some good ones, Buffalo. You're not going

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Speaker 1: to start them against the against the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Right, Starting Denver and Cleveland?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, fire them both up.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland is great, and denver'sd is good and Cleveland's offense

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Speaker 2: is bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so some good options there are. But that's this

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Speaker 1: week's slate of games. We're going to get to another

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Speaker 1: break here. We'll be back with our number two in

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Speaker 1: the drive right after this