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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt Matt Miller from ESPN put together
Speaker 2: his two round post Senior Bowlmalk Draft. All right, cool,
Speaker 2: we looked at the one round, the thirty third team.
Speaker 2: I'll take a look at his.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like the second round is pretty favorable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's take a look here. We're gonna spend
Speaker 2: a lot of time talking about.
Speaker 3: The top five.
Speaker 2: It's all part of the upper The upper half of
Speaker 2: the draft is pretty chalky.
Speaker 3: It really is top nine or ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got Caleb Williams one, Drew Drake May two,
Speaker 2: Jade Daniels three, Marvin Harrison Junior fourth.
Speaker 3: I mean it's getting pretty boring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just locked in. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Even the next three they fluctuate a little, but to
Speaker 3: say name.
Speaker 2: Yes, Molik Neighbors five, Roma Dune, Day six, seven is
Speaker 2: Joe Alt.
Speaker 3: And then Atlanta gets kind of interesting. Sometimes they actually
Speaker 3: take a defensive player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, well, this time they do it. Atlanta takes
Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold, the cornerback out of Alabama at eight.
Speaker 3: He sure seems like cornerback one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nine is Forshanu, the offensive tackle from Penn State to
Speaker 2: the Bears. At ten, you got the Jets taking Telasi Fuaga,
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle from Oregon.
Speaker 3: Little maybe the earliest I've seen that, but it makes
Speaker 3: sense for them.
Speaker 2: At eleven, Dallas Turner goes to Minnesota. Edge rusher from Alabama.
Speaker 3: I think he's in contention to be first defensive player
Speaker 3: taken two.
Speaker 2: At twelve, the Broncos take bow Nicks. Wow, the quarterback
Speaker 2: from Oregon.
Speaker 3: It makes Felton.
Speaker 2: I could see Peyton liking that.
Speaker 3: I mean, he seems like he's a six year guy.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say he's Drew Brees right, but
Speaker 2: it's a lot of that quick let's get the ball
Speaker 2: out of our hands fast, and.
Speaker 3: It's not running around like chicken cut off. He's not
Speaker 3: a massive project. He's mature. He's been at two colleges.
Speaker 3: He should adapt pretty well. I mean, what are their
Speaker 3: options do they have? Though they really don't have any.
Speaker 3: They can't go get cousins. I mean they could get
Speaker 3: a Brissett, you know, but the right Yeah.
Speaker 2: At thirteen, the Raiders then take JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3: I get it. So side note the.
Speaker 2: Steelers you love that. Yeah, I'd love to see five
Speaker 2: quarterbacks going.
Speaker 3: To top thirteen, five top thirteen. So I think Field's
Speaker 3: most likely landing spots assuming gets traded, are Atlanta and
Speaker 3: the Raiders. Now Pittsburgh native Luke Getzi coached fields with
Speaker 3: the Bears and.
Speaker 2: Is now the Raiders offense. Yeah, that's not happening.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean, Bears fans hate Luke.
Speaker 2: I think part of the reason he got fired was
Speaker 2: because he didn't deal well with Fields.
Speaker 3: That's the overriding sentiment. So and certainly does he go
Speaker 3: to the Raiders and say I don't really do with him,
Speaker 3: or he went on to do with us. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it's just a weird dynamic.
Speaker 2: You can look at it the other way and say, well,
Speaker 2: you know, you had to draw your offense up last
Speaker 2: year with fields. Over the second half of the season,
Speaker 2: it was it was okay, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: So I don't know that they're out of it because
Speaker 3: of that. I mean, they might be buddies. It just
Speaker 3: didn't work out.
Speaker 2: I kind of think they are.
Speaker 3: I tend to agree. I tend to agree.
Speaker 2: At fourteen, the Saints take Brock Bowers.
Speaker 3: That makes sense. You'd be pretty happy with that if
Speaker 3: you're the Saints.
Speaker 2: Yeah. At fifteen, the Colts takes Jared Verse out of
Speaker 2: Florida State. Do you see Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they invest in edge guys a lot.
Speaker 2: At sixteen, the Seahawks take Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle
Speaker 2: from Texas. At seventeen, the Jaguars take Enis Rakestraw, the
Speaker 2: cornerback of Missouri.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's highest I've seen him him mentioned, but interesting.
Speaker 2: At eighteen, the Bengals take Brian Thomas Junior, the wide
Speaker 2: receiver out of LSU. There is no way on God's
Speaker 2: Green Earth they don't take an offensive.
Speaker 3: Tackle, especially when Less Higgins goes. I don't think Higgins
Speaker 3: is going. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think so either.
Speaker 3: But even if Higgins goes, Williams probably goes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At nineteen, the Rams take Tyler Geyton.
Speaker 3: That makes some sense to I think your flip flopped
Speaker 3: those two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would make them more sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At twenty, the Steelers then take Amarius Mims, the offensive
Speaker 2: tackle from Georgia.
Speaker 3: I mean, he might be the most talented tackle in
Speaker 3: this draft, and nobody's talking about him because he wasn't
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl and he's been only a right tackle,
Speaker 3: doesn't have a ton of playing time because Roderick Jones
Speaker 3: and others have been there. Typical Georgia superstar waiting in
Speaker 3: the wings. I had no problem with that. I mean,
Speaker 3: we could see who else is out there. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know there's a center we like, there's a corner.
Speaker 3: We like that center we like. I forget which mak
Speaker 3: I was looking at today, but had him going as
Speaker 3: early as sixteen to Seattle.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Keeping them in Oregon.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At twenty one, the Dolphins take jers On Newton, the
Speaker 2: defensive tackle from Illinois.
Speaker 3: The Dolphins, Yeah, okay, I would think that's a be
Speaker 3: a line too.
Speaker 2: Twenty two, the Eagles take Quinya Mitchell, the cornerback from Toledo.
Speaker 3: I would think he's in the equation at twenty, but
Speaker 3: I would take Mims over Mitchell.
Speaker 2: At twenty three, the Texans then take kool Aid McKinstry,
Speaker 2: the cornerback from Alabama.
Speaker 3: Weather Nelson's back.
Speaker 2: I'm taking Cooper Dejene over all.
Speaker 3: These me too, me too.
Speaker 2: At twenty four, Dallas takes Keyon Coleman, the wide receiver
Speaker 2: from Florida State.
Speaker 3: Kind of cooling on him a little bit too, Yeah,
Speaker 3: not a great separator.
Speaker 2: Twenty five, the Packers take Cooper Dejeene, cornerback from Isolewa.
Speaker 3: Great. Yeah, their secondary needs help and get him that late.
Speaker 3: Would you take him over Mims? That tough one.
Speaker 2: That's a tough on.
Speaker 3: That's that's if to see how the off season goes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: team needs and all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At twenty six, the Bucks take Troy Fatanu, the guard
Speaker 2: out of Washington.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they could use He'd fit in somewhere on
Speaker 3: that O line. It's not named worfs.
Speaker 2: I do have to say I would take this offensive
Speaker 2: lineman over Mims. At twenty seven, the Cardinals take See Latham.
Speaker 3: Would you I have to do more work on both
Speaker 3: those guys.
Speaker 2: He's a monster.
Speaker 3: He's a monster. I mean he's a masher, right, It's funny.
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys are mostly right tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which Jones could have left, I'm sure without any problem.
Speaker 3: Latham is who you run behind on fourth down? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: if you want to be.
Speaker 2: A run the foot you want to be a running
Speaker 2: football team. Yeah, take that, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no problem with it. I don't know
Speaker 3: who I like better than the two. I'd have to
Speaker 3: study him both a lot more.
Speaker 2: At twenty eight, the Bills en take Jackson powers Johnson.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I don't know that that's a fit for them.
Speaker 3: I mean, Morse is pretty good center. They drafted a
Speaker 3: guard last year. He's a good player. He's a good player. Yeah, ye,
Speaker 3: really good player.
Speaker 2: He could play guard for them. He could play tenn
Speaker 2: center either one. At twenty nine, the Lions take layout
Speaker 2: too late to the defensive end at the UCLA.
Speaker 3: I mean they're almost always a corner. But that's pretty
Speaker 3: late for late two. Yeah, you know, put him next
Speaker 3: to Hutchinson. That would be useful.
Speaker 2: At thirty, the Ravens end take except for the second
Speaker 2: day in a row, Darius Robinson, a defensive end at
Speaker 2: of Missouri.
Speaker 3: Their type of guy. Line him up all over the
Speaker 3: defensive front.
Speaker 2: He could be a type of guy for a lot
Speaker 2: of these other teams.
Speaker 3: The Machou was looking at today, I'm go the Niners
Speaker 3: at thirty two. Yeah, they'd love him too. I mean
Speaker 3: a lot of teams love them.
Speaker 2: At thirty one, the forty nine Ers take Jordan Morgan,
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle out of Arizona.
Speaker 3: I think that's very possible that they could go tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean Trent Williams up in age.
Speaker 2: Possible. The Ravens could go tackle.
Speaker 3: It could, it could. I mean Moses is old Stanley
Speaker 3: could be a cap casualty f Lele stinks it's possible. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they could go a lot of directions.
Speaker 2: At thirty two, the Chiefs send take Xavier Worthy, the
Speaker 2: wide receiver out of Texas.
Speaker 3: Speed, speed, speed. I mean he's not Tyreek, but these
Speaker 3: what they want hardman to be, you know.
Speaker 2: Kicking off day two for the second day in a row,
Speaker 2: the Panthers take Lad McConkey, the wide receiver out of Georgia.
Speaker 3: I think we joked to catch eight thousand passes in
Speaker 3: that offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At thirty four, the Patriots take Patrick Paul, the offensive
Speaker 2: tackle at a Houston.
Speaker 3: A bit of a project. I wasn't blown away with him,
Speaker 3: senior bull stuff, but massive boy, he's got a lot
Speaker 3: of ability.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: At thirty five, the Cardinals take Nate Wiggins, the cornerback
Speaker 2: out of Clemson. Okay, thirty thirty six, the Commanders go
Speaker 2: for Chris Braswell, the defense end out of Alabama.
Speaker 3: They need them, and they trade their two edge dudes.
Speaker 2: The Chargers at thirty seven then take Edgeryn Cooper, the
Speaker 2: linebacker at a Texas A and m's i've seen him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, first off, the ball Backerum, they're gonna lose Murray.
Speaker 2: Yeah. At thirty eight, the Titans and take a Donnie Mitchell,
Speaker 2: the wide receiver from Texas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Titans almost, I mean if they go alt I
Speaker 3: think receivers almost locked in the second rown. Yeah.
Speaker 2: At thirty nine, the Giants in take Graham Barton at
Speaker 2: a duke.
Speaker 3: Somewhere center, a guard or even right tackle if you
Speaker 3: had to be.
Speaker 2: At forty the Commanders take Chop Robinson, a defensive end at.
Speaker 3: The Pennies Scape edge edge.
Speaker 2: You just got rid of both your ends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, and you just got a lot younger
Speaker 3: and cheaper.
Speaker 2: At forty one, the Packers then take Kamari Lassiter, the
Speaker 2: cornerback at Georgia. Two cornerbacks for the Packers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They took Dejene with the first pick.
Speaker 3: I think you're pretty happy. A front seven and Jerry
Speaker 3: Alexander could be on the move.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At forty two, the Vikings take Michael Pennix, junior back
Speaker 2: in Washington. I think that's who they took you yesterday too.
Speaker 3: I don't say it's chalky at the second round pick.
Speaker 3: It's a forty some pick over, but you need a
Speaker 3: young quarterback. Yeah, even if they bring back Cousins. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't change anything.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: At forty three, the Falcons take devontees Walker, the wide
Speaker 2: receiver out of North Carolina. Ate a rough way in
Speaker 2: a rough senior bowl.
Speaker 3: Did not catch the ball well at all.
Speaker 2: At forty four, the Raiders take Troy Franklin, the wide
Speaker 2: receiver out of Oregon. They need another wide receiver. I
Speaker 2: would go defense, I would too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who they took a quarterback and yeah one, I
Speaker 3: mean I kind of get it. They don't have a
Speaker 3: loaded roster, but I would go defense.
Speaker 2: One area where they're solid those wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty decent. Yeah, quite good.
Speaker 2: At forty five, the Saints take Xavier leget the wide
Speaker 2: receiver out of South Carolina.
Speaker 3: Bowers and Legett. I don't know if they take two
Speaker 3: pass catchers.
Speaker 2: At forty six, the colt take Malachai Corley, the wide
Speaker 2: receiver out of West Western Kentucky.
Speaker 3: That'd be a nice compliment to Pittman and Pierce and down.
Speaker 2: They also took brock Bauers in the first round.
Speaker 3: Really, no Colts took at the end in the first round.
Speaker 3: They took a pass rusher. I thought they took you're right,
Speaker 3: so they took two pass catchers.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: At forty seven, the Giants take Chris Jenkins out of Michigan.
Speaker 3: They traded Leonar Williams from Okay, just getting much younger.
Speaker 3: That would make it cheaper. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: At forty eight, the Jaguars take Roman Wilson, the wide
Speaker 2: receiver out of Michigan. The receivers are getting hammered.
Speaker 3: Zay Jones might not be back. Ridley's a free agent,
Speaker 3: so who knows.
Speaker 2: At forty nine, the Bengals take j Tavian Sanders, the
Speaker 2: tight end out of Texas. That's who they were take.
Speaker 2: They took yesterday too. They'll have a tight end on
Speaker 2: the roster.
Speaker 3: So they didn't they took They didn't take a right tackle,
Speaker 3: though they still have a receiver and a tight end.
Speaker 3: They did not have a tight end on the roster.
Speaker 2: Though, You're right, They also don't have a right tackle,
Speaker 2: and the.
Speaker 3: Other option for them too is de tackle. If readers
Speaker 3: not back, they better do something there.
Speaker 2: Fifty the Eagles take Tyler Nuban, the safety out of Minnesota.
Speaker 3: They need it solid player.
Speaker 2: At fifty one, the Steelers take Zach Fraser center in
Speaker 2: West Virginia.
Speaker 3: I think you're quite happy with that.
Speaker 2: So if you could sign up now to get our
Speaker 2: Marius Mims at twenty and Zach Fraser at fifty one.
Speaker 3: I think they're both very good value picks. I probably
Speaker 3: would check that box and say, yeah.
Speaker 2: I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 3: I'd be fine.
Speaker 2: There's just no guarantee you're gonna get Fraser in the
Speaker 2: second round.
Speaker 3: That's of course. Of course, that's the thing. As you
Speaker 3: can sit in there holding, you know, keeping your fingers crossed.
Speaker 3: And we could do this at some point too, because
Speaker 3: I remember we did it for the Humphrey Green Draft.
Speaker 3: Like how many teams are really in the center market.
Speaker 3: But you also got to realize some of these dudes
Speaker 3: could also be a guard or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So you have some idea. There's usually four or five
Speaker 3: teams out there that would consider a Day one or
Speaker 3: two center.
Speaker 2: Having seen Fraser on the hoof, Yeah, impressive, he's going
Speaker 2: to be a center only.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, I don't think he's he's my Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: that adds up.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he can't play guard, right, but he's
Speaker 2: on the shorter side. But some teams, when I say
Speaker 2: shorter side, he's like six to one in chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, No, I've never heard him be discussed anywhere else.
Speaker 3: The problem with that, I mean, like my hesitation for
Speaker 3: trade your two first round picks right now for Fraser
Speaker 3: and Mims would be once again, you're getting young on offense,
Speaker 3: old on defense. You know, like I gotta spend money
Speaker 3: on defense, and my defense is old and expensive. You know,
Speaker 3: Like that's not the direction you want to go. But
Speaker 3: that's also the way that Straft sets up. It has
Speaker 3: centers and his tackles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, corners also corners.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: So fifty two, the Rams take Braylan Trice defensive ended
Speaker 2: on Washington, Washington.
Speaker 3: I wondering any of these guys would you take over
Speaker 3: Fraser with Mims in the books, I would not take
Speaker 3: Trice over No.
Speaker 2: At fifty three, the Eagles take Junior Colson linebacker from Michigan.
Speaker 3: I'm not thrilled to the second round linebacker for the
Speaker 3: Steelers either.
Speaker 2: At fifty four, the Browns take de and Andre Sweat,
Speaker 2: defensive tackle from Texas.
Speaker 3: I would not take him over Fraser, No, but they
Speaker 3: need Yeah, yeah, that would be a need for them absolutely.
Speaker 2: At fifty five, the Dolphins take Cooper b b the
Speaker 2: guard out of k State.
Speaker 3: I think he's just a guard too. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: would rather a Fraser, but he would be very useful
Speaker 3: for the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: At fifty six, the Cowboys take Kingsley Suemataia.
Speaker 3: That might work out for them because they could franchise
Speaker 3: or sign Tyson Smith Will a short term deal and
Speaker 3: groom him. Yeah, that would makes some sense.
Speaker 2: At fifty seven, the Buccaneers take Cameron Kinchin's the safety
Speaker 2: out of Miami. Wingfields a free agent is assuming they
Speaker 2: lose Antoine Winfield.
Speaker 3: I think he's thinking franchise. That's one guy I might
Speaker 3: give twenty million. By the way, if he was on
Speaker 3: the open market.
Speaker 2: Well, Ryan Neil, their other starting safety, is also free agent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: At fifty eight, the Packers take Jonathan Brooks, running back
Speaker 2: out of Texas.
Speaker 3: I think Dylan's up and Jones is old. They could
Speaker 3: be the first team to go running back. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that adds up. At none of these guys I would
Speaker 3: taken ahead of Fraser though.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: Fifty nine, the Texans take Leonard Taylor to defensive tackle
Speaker 2: out of Miami. Who is that the Texans?
Speaker 3: Texans? Yeah, they're always going to add line.
Speaker 2: At sixty the Buffalo Bills take Jalen Polk wide receiver
Speaker 2: out of Washington.
Speaker 3: Much needed.
Speaker 2: At sixty one, the Lions take TJ. Tampa cornerback out
Speaker 2: of Iowa State.
Speaker 3: They didn't go corner around one.
Speaker 2: I would consider him.
Speaker 3: I'd consider him tim versus Fraser. I don't know enough
Speaker 3: about both, but I'd probably lean towards Fraser. But it'd
Speaker 3: be nice to go offense defense the two alignment.
Speaker 2: At sixty two, the Ravens take Javon Bullard safety out
Speaker 2: of Georgia.
Speaker 3: And they would considered him a second rounder. I thought
Speaker 3: he's more of a third fourth, but what do I know.
Speaker 2: Sixty three the forty nine Ers take a Disa Isaac
Speaker 2: defensive end of Penn State. I could absolutely say that,
Speaker 2: and sixty four he has sixty four picks yesterday? What
Speaker 2: was up the three.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. Somebody must have screwed up on that.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the Chiefs take Michael Hall, junior defensive tackle
Speaker 2: out of Ohio State.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even if Chris Jones is back, that would.
Speaker 2: Be part of it still makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that adds up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't fit for the Steelers.
Speaker 3: So now he's six one and a half or something
Speaker 3: like that, explo I've seen people he'd be interesting for
Speaker 3: the Yeah, third and eighty would be, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't think it'd be out there very much.
Speaker 2: You'd be looking at the Marvin lel situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he wouldn't do any of the stand
Speaker 3: up stuff, not that Leal's done him a lot of
Speaker 3: that lately, but I don't see him as a fit.
Speaker 3: So would you trade twenty and was it forty nine
Speaker 3: or fifty.
Speaker 2: Twenty and fifty two, twenty and fifty one.
Speaker 3: For Frasier and Mems? I think after combine we would
Speaker 3: say yes, because I think Mems is going to do
Speaker 3: crazy stuff there.
Speaker 2: I still like Latham better, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know problem with I don't have an opinion on that, but.
Speaker 2: I might even like power Johnson better.
Speaker 3: Was he on the board at twenty he was.
Speaker 2: He was so definitely like Cooper Jean as well.
Speaker 3: So let's play a funny little game here. Let's say
Speaker 3: the Steelers go center at twenty. Okay, who would you
Speaker 3: take in at fifty one? There? At fifty receivers got
Speaker 3: pretty dry they did the tall corner. Tampa would be.
Speaker 2: Tampa would be, Tampa would be in the mix. Honestly,
Speaker 2: Cameron Kitchens might be in the mix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not bad, young playmaker.
Speaker 2: Just as Sue Mattia would be in there.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about maybe a project attackle dan More
Speaker 3: can hold on the foid as long as I don't
Speaker 3: think Suemtaia is a week one starter. No, I don't
Speaker 3: think so either, and Sener Bowl was so so for him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean Tam Tampa would definitely be in that mix.
Speaker 3: Is that better? I mean, I sure love Power Johnson. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, to me, center is the biggest need on the
Speaker 2: offensive line.
Speaker 3: I agree, I do agree with that.
Speaker 2: So you know, I got to get better.
Speaker 3: There is anyone a better prospect.
Speaker 2: Than he is too, I mean, he's the number one
Speaker 2: center prospect maybe in the last five years.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think so? Yeah, Yeah, I do. I mean
Speaker 3: he's There's few that you'd say that's a valid first
Speaker 3: round center. He is he is? Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 3: know these names.
Speaker 2: Are plays in. I just think he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know this is a different conversation and we'll
Speaker 3: talk about it down the road. But you could give
Speaker 3: Lloyd Cushionberry eight or nine million, you know, and be
Speaker 3: okay there. I mean, like he's the best free agency.
Speaker 2: This is this is a franchise, this is this is
Speaker 2: your this is your dude for the next twelve years.
Speaker 3: And I know this shouldn't matter, but it's kind of
Speaker 3: like in my lifetime, I've seen three head coaches, I've
Speaker 3: kind of only seen three centers. Like centers mean more
Speaker 3: to the Steelers than any other team, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like they've had such history with it, You've
Speaker 3: seen what the the ramifications of having an all time
Speaker 3: great Pro Bowls type guy at that position goes a
Speaker 3: long way, man. Yeah. Yeah, not the Fraser's bad No, No,
Speaker 3: I mean he might be a Pro Bowler.
Speaker 2: Too, right, But I just think Powers is better.
Speaker 3: Mims and Latham are pretty exciting though, too. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: hear you, But I can live with Dan more another year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, especially if your center is a pro bowler.
Speaker 2: Especially you know, again if I if I do that
Speaker 2: and then take a project guy, like.
Speaker 3: A super guy under so, I mean, there'll be other
Speaker 3: names that will come up with or the dude from
Speaker 3: Texas at the Senior Bowl, all these guys that.
Speaker 2: Were the next the next Dan Moore and you hope
Speaker 2: he's better. Yeah, in a draft like this, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I mean, this draft is ridiculous with offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: I know, I think it'd almost be criminal not to
Speaker 3: come away with one of somewhe linemen in the first
Speaker 3: two rounds. Yeah, you know, and unfortunately we never get
Speaker 3: a receiver in any of these deals. And I don't
Speaker 3: really want to go sign. We'll talk about some of
Speaker 3: the names, but I don't want to give Josh Reynolds
Speaker 3: a you know, ten million, or I don't know, Curtis
Speaker 3: Samuel or I don't know. I mean, but a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff will obviously become a lot clear post free agent.
Speaker 3: I yeah, two guys that are you know, oh, they
Speaker 3: don't need a center anymore well well you know, or
Speaker 3: whatever it is, or they don't need a corner anymore,
Speaker 3: whatever it is. But it's interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that was Matt Miller's post Senior Bowl mock draft
Speaker 2: two rounds of it. Good stuff in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like those second round Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'd love the second round. Two round drafts.
Speaker 3: Heck, if you could go from twenty to twenty five, yeah,
Speaker 3: and then take Latham pick up an extra third.
Speaker 2: Round right right to give you can you get in
Speaker 2: your wide receiver, then you're getting your best tackle.
Speaker 3: I mean, give me twenty and I'll give you a
Speaker 3: fifth for two seconds.
Speaker 2: The problem becomes, though, when you start looking at doing that,
Speaker 2: is that you know, when you start talking about teams
Speaker 2: that take a center Miami, so you.
Speaker 3: Might lose your center miam Is mettle for whatever there.
Speaker 2: It might be the gene and then could the Eagles
Speaker 2: take one.
Speaker 3: They could Beef Jurgens might be their guy though they
Speaker 3: but they always take them.
Speaker 2: He played it till he played gard last year. If
Speaker 2: if you have a chance to get the number one center,
Speaker 2: you're gonna pass the very Eagles move. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 2: go from this Hall of Fame center to another guy
Speaker 2: we think could be really good at the position.
Speaker 3: Well, well, it's still in front of you real quick
Speaker 3: if they were. So, if you do that at twenty
Speaker 3: I think you lose the ability to have any You
Speaker 3: just gotta have to get what's falls to you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but if Latham, Mims, powers Johnson and Dejeene or on
Speaker 3: the board.
Speaker 2: Of twenty okay, then I can.
Speaker 3: Move back they were Yeah, you know, like I'm gonna
Speaker 3: move back five six spots, get one of them, and
Speaker 3: then go from there potentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you may you may miss someone though, I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but here in the neighborhood at least. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: if all of a sudden your favorite three went, you
Speaker 3: can move up again. But like the way this laid out,
Speaker 3: like I don't have to take Mims at twenty I'll
Speaker 3: take whoever's there at twenty five or twenty six from
Speaker 3: that short list, you know.
Speaker 2: But again, you look at that, so you got my
Speaker 2: me At twenty one, they could go center for sure,
Speaker 2: definitely Oftense, I'm not sure he's going to be there
Speaker 2: at twenty Yeah, twenty two is the Eagles, could do it,
Speaker 2: twenty three is Houston possibly, yeah, twenty four is Dallas.
Speaker 3: The Audish is a free agent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and twenty five is Green.
Speaker 3: Bay they could go tackle. Yeah, I mean, there could
Speaker 3: definitely be Lineman in that whole mix. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: hear you. So I'm just saying, if those four happened
Speaker 3: to be available as they were there, I'm fielding calls. Yeah,
Speaker 3: moved back.
Speaker 2: I think you talk about it, but I got to
Speaker 2: be over. I got to be bowled over with them,
Speaker 2: Like I got to get something really that I can't
Speaker 2: pass up.
Speaker 3: Like if I can do twenty and a fifth rounder
Speaker 3: for that team's twenty fifth and a second, or twenty
Speaker 3: and one of the fourth rounders, love to get an
Speaker 3: extra second. I just want to.
Speaker 2: Say, I just I'll take a third and no extra picks.
Speaker 3: From you know, that's being a safety, yeah, or something
Speaker 3: you can use, or even the fourth center on the list,
Speaker 3: if you could. You don't get Frasier four center. Give
Speaker 3: me the.
Speaker 2: Talk to guys've been down that road.
Speaker 3: The tackle.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go that route again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're gonna go big, if you're gonna go center,
Speaker 3: go big. Yep. I'm one of the top two and
Speaker 3: you probably have taken it twenty Yeah, which we be fine.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. Yeah, I'm okay with that. Let's
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson
Speaker 2: and Matt I thought would take its chance.
Speaker 3: You're sticking with the little draft this season.
Speaker 2: Man, we like to hammer the draft, and in a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks here we'll be heading to the Combine
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. I meant I just got back from the
Speaker 2: Senior ball I had to you know, my wife was
Speaker 2: asking me, when when do you leave for the Combine.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, three weeks from today.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, driving not too far. Yeah, good stuff. I
Speaker 3: always look forward that week.
Speaker 2: The thirty third team has their rankings here of the
Speaker 2: players available in this year's draft. I know, roll through
Speaker 2: this a little bit here.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: This is a little bit different than just looking at
Speaker 2: a mock draft. Of course, this is their rankings of
Speaker 2: the top players. So they have Marvin Harrison Junior number one,
Speaker 2: totally add up Caleb Williams two.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Their third ranked player is Joe alt the offensive tackle
Speaker 2: from Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I can't really fight any of those.
Speaker 2: For they have Molik Neighbors the l s U. People
Speaker 2: want to talk about him enough at five and there's
Speaker 2: a little bit of a gap here between we know
Speaker 2: those four are we talked about this? Where's that?
Speaker 3: Where's that there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a great year. So Harrison's a seven
Speaker 2: point two.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is a seven point oh three, so it's
Speaker 2: a little bit of gap there. Then you have Alta
Speaker 2: is a seven point oh two. Malik Neighbors a seven
Speaker 2: point oh one.
Speaker 3: I mean Harrison's like as good a prospect as there's beat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you go to five. Romadunzie is a
Speaker 2: six point nine one.
Speaker 3: Okay. I know some people will fight over Rome versus Neighbors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that. At six, well they agree
Speaker 2: with me here. I didn't looked at this yet, but
Speaker 2: J C. Latham, Wow, six point nine.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's the highest I've seen him. But I get it.
Speaker 3: I mean he is a pile moving dude. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: is a powerful player.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: At seven, Drake May Okay, tom Be.
Speaker 3: A little bit of mixed feelings on him, didn't have
Speaker 3: a tremendous year.
Speaker 2: At eight, brock Bowers, He's.
Speaker 3: Another one's hard to find negatives. It's just where does
Speaker 3: he land.
Speaker 2: In the position? I mean, yeah, it's a it's a
Speaker 2: position thing.
Speaker 3: A list like this, I would think he'd be higher
Speaker 3: than where he actually goes. Yeah, most likely.
Speaker 2: At nine is Forshanu, the offensive tackle from Penn State.
Speaker 3: Well, it seems like consensus that alts ahead of him.
Speaker 2: At ten, Dallas Turner, the drusher out of Alabama.
Speaker 3: I need to watch them more, but this doesn't leap
Speaker 3: off the page to me as being a special edge rusher. Good,
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: But it may be a situation where he goes to
Speaker 2: the combine and runs like a four to four.
Speaker 3: I think that everybody says, all people expecting the forty
Speaker 3: inch vertical and yeah, crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: At eleven is a lot to try to ucla.
Speaker 3: He seems much different. Maybe he's more power, you know,
Speaker 3: you know what you're getting.
Speaker 2: At twelve kool Aid McKinstry.
Speaker 3: Wow, seems a little early, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But he's a six eight four. At thirteen is Nate Wiggins.
Speaker 2: He's a six eight three.
Speaker 3: Seems like just all the mocks and stuff we talked through,
Speaker 3: both those guys seem to be going a little bit
Speaker 3: backwards as opposed to four us. They probably do it wrong. Done, yeah,
Speaker 3: right right, what they do wrong?
Speaker 2: They just didn't go to the senior boy right. At
Speaker 2: fourteen is to Lasi Foaga, the offensive tackle out of
Speaker 2: Oregon State. He's a six eight two.
Speaker 3: Would you be happy with him? At twenty yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: me too.
Speaker 2: At fifteen is Jerson Newton. He's a six seven eight.
Speaker 3: Five Newton versus Williams from Texas seems to be a
Speaker 3: conversation right now.
Speaker 2: At sixteen is Chop Robinson.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's every down player though.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Seventeen is key On Coleman.
Speaker 3: Ooh, the head of the head of Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen is Jared Versy.
Speaker 3: Back to act.
Speaker 2: Nineteen is Byron Murphy, I get it. Twenty is Brian Thomas.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's not far up. He's a six seven six, Okay,
Speaker 3: So I.
Speaker 2: Don't know where the cutoff is here in terms of.
Speaker 3: The Yeah, we had this conversation yesterday that I don't
Speaker 3: see if they have.
Speaker 2: A grading they don't have a true the what the
Speaker 2: grades mean here?
Speaker 3: I should know this better, but this is a pretty
Speaker 3: common NFL grading system there, using a bunch of former
Speaker 3: NFL players, But I don't know exactly what they mean.
Speaker 3: That six seven means future starter or meeting starter, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. But we had this conversation yesterday. This year
Speaker 3: is definitely hazier of where the true first rounders cut off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these grades are all very close. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 2: I'm kind of reading these off here, because.
Speaker 3: Because like Powers Johnson to me would count as a
Speaker 3: surefire first rounder.
Speaker 2: From Jerson Newton at fifteen down to Jackson Powers Johnson
Speaker 2: at twenty nine, they go that far. Those guys are
Speaker 2: all six point seven or higher.
Speaker 3: So maybe they think there's twenty nine ish first round.
Speaker 2: I mean that's pretty that's much more than usual, Yeah,
Speaker 2: much more than usual.
Speaker 3: Who are all those names?
Speaker 2: So you're looking at it on that twenty is Byron
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas. Twenty one is Troy Fatanu, twenty two is
Speaker 2: Jatavian Sanders, Yeah, another Titan, twenty three, Tyler Newban, twenty
Speaker 2: fourth to Andre sweat the thing with Nuban and like
Speaker 2: Sanders Nubman and Sweat.
Speaker 3: Are a little different. They' gonna be second rounder.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be second round. Is because of the positions
Speaker 2: that they play.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not a Hamilton or Sean Taylor like safety.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's a really good player, six and forty pound
Speaker 2: tight end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not for everyone.
Speaker 2: He's a big receiver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, big receiver, and Sweat is a total outliar.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At twenty five is Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's low, but he's gonna go high.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Twenty six is Tyler Geiton.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I'll definitely take him, and he's to me,
Speaker 3: is a guaranteed first rounder.
Speaker 2: Twenty seven is Quinya and Mitchell.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a guaranteed first rounder. We'll
Speaker 3: see how he stacks up at an ind compared to
Speaker 3: some of the Wiggans and kool Aids of the world.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight is Cameron Kinchins Yeah, and then twenty nine
Speaker 2: is Jackson Powers Johnson, the guy's in the six sixes.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of those led off by At thirty
Speaker 2: are Marius.
Speaker 3: Smith, Wow, Latham and Mems real different on their board.
Speaker 2: At thirty one is Terry and Arnold.
Speaker 3: Kool Aid and Arnold are pretty far off.
Speaker 2: He's a six six eight. But when you look at
Speaker 2: the actual grades, kole Ad mcinstry's a six eight four
Speaker 2: and Terry and Arnold is a six would I.
Speaker 3: Say six six.
Speaker 2: Six eight, So it's really not that big crazy. That's
Speaker 2: basically the same gap that there is between Malik Neighbors
Speaker 2: and Room and Duncie Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, and there they have a reasonable gap there, but
Speaker 3: that's still not that's a lot of players in clean.
Speaker 2: It's not as big a gap. The bigger gap is
Speaker 2: between Marvin Harrison Junior and Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: I think they just think Marvin's the best.
Speaker 2: He's a seven to two and Caleb Williams is a
Speaker 2: seven oh three.
Speaker 3: I totally understand that line of thinking that if you're
Speaker 3: actually because it's different than who's the most valuable. It's
Speaker 3: if your sisters a scow and you're watching all the
Speaker 3: tape and you're taking your notes, and you talk to
Speaker 3: the kid and you talk to the coaches, and you
Speaker 3: can't come up with anything wrong with Marvin Harrison's son
Speaker 3: and he's a dominant football player. How do you not
Speaker 3: put a massive grade on. Yeah, you know, you just do.
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean you take him first overall, but you put
Speaker 3: a massive grade on.
Speaker 2: At thirty two is Graham Barton.
Speaker 3: Okay, he's a six six six seven five.
Speaker 2: At thirty four as Kamari Lassiter.
Speaker 3: I need to dig into these corners more.
Speaker 2: At thirty five is Junior Colson, the linebacker that's their
Speaker 2: first linebacker.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At thirty six is Kingsley Suamataia. He's a six point
Speaker 2: six five five.
Speaker 3: Tip pause real quick. We had a good conversation about
Speaker 3: an hour ago about the free agent linebackers, and I
Speaker 3: can't imagine early February using a top two pick for
Speaker 3: the Steelers on a linebacker. But you keep seeing Michigan
Speaker 3: and A and M linebacker in the thirty to thirty
Speaker 3: five to forty range. I could create a scenario after
Speaker 3: free agency that you might take one of those at
Speaker 3: fifty one.
Speaker 2: If you fill those other needs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if free agency falls nicely, you got
Speaker 3: some contracts you like, and nail your first round pick,
Speaker 3: and it's like, well.
Speaker 2: Honestly, that's where Kansas City filled their linebacker. Bob was
Speaker 2: a second round pick. I think was Willie Gay a
Speaker 2: second round pick. Yes, he was in the second he
Speaker 2: was a third.
Speaker 3: And Sam of Chanel. Yeah. I mean they've used three
Speaker 3: of them and it's been pretty good. It's not nearly
Speaker 3: as crazy and as an investment, but is that better
Speaker 3: than giving Josie It's better than giving Josie Jewel eleven million? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: At thirty five, I said Kingsley Sumataia. At thirty seven,
Speaker 2: Cedric Gray, the other linebacker from North Carolina.
Speaker 3: That's the highest I've seen him, but yeah, he looked good. Seneble.
Speaker 2: Thirty eight is Makai Wingo, the defensive tackle from LSU.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I oh much about him.
Speaker 2: He's a true kind of nose.
Speaker 3: You see the wide body type, six foot two pounds.
Speaker 3: I don't want a six foot uh.
Speaker 2: At thirty nine, Peyton Wilson.
Speaker 3: Interesting, he's six years senior though. Yeah he's old and short. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At forty Dominic Pooney, the guard out of Kansas. It's
Speaker 2: another six years son.
Speaker 3: I think he was a tackle Kansas. It's going to
Speaker 3: be a guard. Yeah.
Speaker 2: At forty one, Chris Braswell at uh and he is
Speaker 2: the last player who has a six point six great
Speaker 2: or high. Then you're looking at the six point five.
Speaker 2: You got Blake Fisher, the offensive tackle at a Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: Patrick, work on him too. I wonder if he's somebody
Speaker 3: you considering the third round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Patrick Paul the offensive tackle out of Houston. Forty
Speaker 2: four is Kaylin King got it, cornerback out of Penn State.
Speaker 2: Leonard Taylor, the defensive tackle out of Miami is forty five.
Speaker 3: I think he's more of the Steelers style.
Speaker 2: Yeah, six three five.
Speaker 3: I was a little taller. I prefer over sixty four.
Speaker 2: At forty six, a Disa Isaac at then State at
Speaker 2: forty seven. Darius Robinson, the defensive tackle at Missouri.
Speaker 4: This is DT.
Speaker 2: He could play either one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends where you want to use him.
Speaker 2: Then you got Caleb Carson, the cornerback out of Wake
Speaker 2: Forest at forty eight.
Speaker 3: What's his size, six foot one, ninety five like all
Speaker 3: these other dudes. Yeah maybe yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: You got Rouke Aurorjo out of Clemson at forty nine.
Speaker 2: He's six four to two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Then you got Braylen Trice at fifty he's a six
Speaker 2: five five Gabriel Murphy the addresser out of UCLA at
Speaker 2: fifty one. Josh Newton, the cornerback out of TCU at
Speaker 2: fifty two. He's another sixty year senior.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Will Shipley is the top running back on here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: out of Clemson five eleven two ten. He's a six
Speaker 2: five three five. Chris Jenkins the defensive tackle out of Michigan.
Speaker 3: What do they list his height and weight at six
Speaker 3: three three oh five. Yeah, not quite as tall as
Speaker 3: I was hoping. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then Blake Korham the running back at a Michigan.
Speaker 3: You'd love to see some of those second round running
Speaker 3: backs go. Yeah, that would be even third round running backs.
Speaker 2: Then fifty six is Troy frank Actually, quorum is less
Speaker 2: player with a six five were greater.
Speaker 3: They have two backs in the top fifty ish or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty is Troy Franklin. Mike Santistril at fifty seven.
Speaker 3: Wonder his height and weight is going to be at
Speaker 3: the combine. They list mere five and he makes me
Speaker 3: think they're lying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got a Donnie Mitchell at fifty eight.
Speaker 3: Do you consider those Texas receivers in the second round.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say that in February with the other
Speaker 3: needs glaring at the moment. But that's about where they'll go.
Speaker 2: It's about where they'll go. But I like other stuff things. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix at fifty nine, at sixty Jaylen Polk, the
Speaker 2: wide receiver at a Washington he's intriguing. Yeah, sixty one,
Speaker 2: devontees Walker, sixty two is Cooper Bebee sixty three Zach Fraser.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good group right there. Yeah, you could
Speaker 3: do pretty well.
Speaker 2: With Fraser's a six four to seven, which is.
Speaker 3: A lot different than Powers Johnson I assume for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Powers Johnson has a grade of six seven to
Speaker 2: one to five.
Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like much, but that's a pretty pretty pretty
Speaker 3: big gap.
Speaker 2: Then you're looking at Jayden Hicks, the safety out of
Speaker 2: Washington State. He's intriguing. Yeah, he's six two to twelve.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he's Steelers third round, third year sophomore.
Speaker 2: Like, there's a lot of light there.
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's gonna be a name that we like.
Speaker 3: Someone rewind and replay that. Williamson just said. Third round.
Speaker 3: Guy's going like fortieth overall after the combine after forty
Speaker 3: two inch vertical and runs a four to four to
Speaker 3: two or something. Yeah, but no, he is intriguing.
Speaker 2: Uh sixty five, this is the name I'm not real
Speaker 2: familiar with, but catan a lot po safety out of
Speaker 2: Oregon State.
Speaker 3: M hmm. Some safeties I haven't said, six.
Speaker 2: One, two, seventeen. Then you get Lab McConkie.
Speaker 3: It does seem like the safeties round three ish aren't bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lab McConkie at sixty six, he's a six four six.
Speaker 2: He's gonna go higher on that. Xavier Worthy. Yeah, his
Speaker 2: problem is he's skinny.
Speaker 3: He's litterally.
Speaker 2: TJ. Tampa we talked about in the previous segment six
Speaker 2: point four, five three. He's list of at six two
Speaker 2: six Yeah, uh jj McCarthy all the way down at
Speaker 2: sixty nine.
Speaker 3: People are all over the place on him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We still haven't mentioned the other quarterback yet either.
Speaker 3: NOx is not mix is not their mention yet, PENNX.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that long ago at seventy of Javon Bullard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those safeties in this neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Georgia at seventy one, Xavier Lagette at seventy two, Jalen Simpson,
Speaker 2: the safety out of Auburn.
Speaker 3: It's a nice area for safeties and receivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's seventy three. You're looking at Roman Wilson.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think he'll less so long either, but
Speaker 3: is a deep receiver.
Speaker 2: Draft at seventy four Brendan Rice, Jerry's kid.
Speaker 3: I didn't love him what I saw of him. I mean, big, physical, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's kind of stiff.
Speaker 2: Seventy five is Cedric van Print.
Speaker 3: He was the center they're looking at that.
Speaker 2: The difference between Fraser and van Print is much smaller,
Speaker 2: much smaller than it is between those two, and I can.
Speaker 3: Certainly see that. I just think powers Johnson's pretty special.
Speaker 2: Uh. Then you got Kaylen Bullock out of USC at
Speaker 2: seventy six. Kyrie Jackson, the cornerback out of Oregon at
Speaker 2: seventy seventy. He's tall, sixty five.
Speaker 3: He's intriguing too.
Speaker 2: Malachai Corley at seventy eight.
Speaker 3: Gladly take him at seventy eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: DJ James the cornerback out of Auburn. He is skinny.
Speaker 2: Say he looks really lean, one hundred and sixty four
Speaker 2: pounds as they call him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at six foot, I wonder if he's gonna do
Speaker 3: that combine trick like bulk up the one seventy five
Speaker 3: and run or you know.
Speaker 2: Jordan Morgan all the way down at eighty the offensive
Speaker 2: tackle out of Arizona.
Speaker 3: Andy do more work, but I have not been blown
Speaker 3: away back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bucky Irving, running back out of Oregon at eighty one,
Speaker 2: bow Nicks all the way down at eighty two. There
Speaker 2: you go. Braden Fisk, the defensive tackle out of Florida.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize he's a six year guy. Yeah, he's old,
Speaker 2: little older. There's a lot of six year guys. Brandon
Speaker 2: Dorius out of Oregon at defensive tackle.
Speaker 3: At eighty four, what's his size?
Speaker 2: Six? Christian Mahogany at eighty five, fifty year sophomore. How
Speaker 2: does that happen?
Speaker 3: How do you do that?
Speaker 2: COVID year and a red shirt year? I guess and
Speaker 2: at least yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Something some kind of injury or something in there too.
Speaker 3: Very powerful, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Jvan Cole Cohen, the guard out of Miami. He had
Speaker 2: a good week.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Braylan Allen, the running back out of Wisconsin. He is monster.
Speaker 3: He's a big six five, typical Wisconsin banger. Ron Daine,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Jonah Ellis at eighty eight, the edge rusher out of Utah,
Speaker 2: Tykee Smith the safety out of Georgia.
Speaker 3: He could play a less slot too. He's at bit smaller.
Speaker 2: Edrin Cooper at nine am, Michael Hall at ninety one.
Speaker 2: And actually Tyke Smith is the last player with a
Speaker 2: six or higher grade. He's at sixty two to two.
Speaker 2: So then there's a drop off there between Tykee Smith
Speaker 2: and Edgrian Cooper. Cooper is a five nine eight five.
Speaker 3: Some people love Cooper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I just height and wait, uh.
Speaker 3: Cooper is six two two thirty. I thought he was
Speaker 3: more of the prototypical tall long.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like when you start getting past
Speaker 2: this area is where it starts to drop off at.
Speaker 3: And part of it's just because we don't know as
Speaker 3: much as we will. We'll warm up to some of
Speaker 3: those guys and more knowledge we have of them. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I have not been real impressed with fifth Round neighborhood
Speaker 3: at all, and even the forests.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, and that's from the thirty third team scouting department.
Speaker 2: And I might add they have a lot of former
Speaker 2: yeah gms and scouts.
Speaker 3: And yeah, a lot of names you would know there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I wonder who all votes and who all does that
Speaker 3: stuff for them? But no, I like that.
Speaker 2: Sitle that's coming out of the combat or the senior bullets.
Speaker 3: That was they did put it out.
Speaker 2: That was put up February.
Speaker 3: Sixth, So interesting, good stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting there, But that line of delineation in the
Speaker 2: first round, there's a lot of I think it's a
Speaker 2: very deep first round.
Speaker 3: It seems like it's it's I think you're right. I mean,
Speaker 3: it really seems like there's like, if you win the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, teams might get really good players.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I like the second round quite a bit
Speaker 3: and then it gets foggy for me. I'll say that
Speaker 3: for now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Driver on Steelers
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Speaker 2: doing a little research into the Super Bowl this week
Speaker 2: and south AT's Justin Watson, nice wide receiver for the
Speaker 2: a Chiefs. He'll be appearing in his third Super Bowl
Speaker 2: in the last four years.
Speaker 3: How about that.
Speaker 2: He has been active for six playoff games in his career. Really,
Speaker 2: in those games that he has been active, his teams
Speaker 2: are six and zero.
Speaker 3: They're pretty successful organization of late.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you go from Tampa with Tom Brady to yeah,
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 3: You know that's funny. Through history, a lot of those
Speaker 3: things Like Charles Haley is the best example, like goes
Speaker 3: back and forth and his team win it and no
Speaker 3: offense to Watson, but Haley probably have more to do
Speaker 3: with the victory than Watson. But there's a lot of
Speaker 3: those guys that play multiple championships in a row that
Speaker 3: are down the you know, the ranks that you don't
Speaker 3: think about. Yeah, I just cool.
Speaker 2: I thought of that today as I'm like, Justin Watson's
Speaker 2: been pretty darn successful. He isn't you can like get
Speaker 2: his third ring.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's awesome. Good for him though. He's had
Speaker 3: a good career and he may even make a big
Speaker 3: play in that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And those are the kind of guys I think
Speaker 2: that win you these kind of games.
Speaker 3: A lot of times it comes down to remember the
Speaker 3: big play Watson made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, right, he had one catch in the game,
Speaker 2: but man, it was a big one. Or that block
Speaker 2: he threw on that you know whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy he fell in that fumble. Camp what a
Speaker 3: gutsy play or whatever? You know.
Speaker 2: Was the receiver for the Giants that had the helmet catch?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyree, David Tyree was the highlight of his career.
Speaker 2: He was just a you know, third or fourth wide
Speaker 2: receiver on the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he'll never buy himself his own beer in
Speaker 3: New York again. Yeah. Yeah, but even like the Chiefs receivers,
Speaker 3: like do you trust Hardman or mvs or you know,
Speaker 3: like besides Rice and Kelsey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the big question is Kadarius Tony Is
Speaker 2: he going to be active for this for the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's helped them, he helped them
Speaker 3: win last year's but I don't count on him at all.
Speaker 3: Rice has really stepped up, but the rest of the
Speaker 3: receiving group is like the least reliable in the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It looks like Joe Thuney is a long shot
Speaker 2: to play in this game as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he'll do everything possible, but I
Speaker 3: thought that was a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Their line was fine though against Baltimore.
Speaker 3: That wasn't bad. No, it wasn't bad at all.
Speaker 2: In fact, they ran I can't I don't even know
Speaker 2: the name of the guard that they started.
Speaker 3: Get it on Mobile Choice, Yeah, I forget it off.
Speaker 3: Thought he's not a brand name guy.
Speaker 2: They were running behind him.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that nine or D hasn't been tremendous.
Speaker 2: You can run on him.
Speaker 3: You can run on him. And let's talk about Chase
Speaker 3: Young the other day too. He's another one that might
Speaker 3: be the next Clowney. I mean he runs past a
Speaker 3: quarterback time and time again. I mean he get you
Speaker 3: can run down his throat like that. Has not been
Speaker 3: a great addition for them, and that cost my third
Speaker 3: round pick. I think, Yeah, maybe a second might have
Speaker 3: been second a second. Yeah, but yeah, and you basically
Speaker 3: rented him better win.
Speaker 2: The super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Win the super Bowl, but he has not been a
Speaker 3: major contributor for them. Their outside run defense hasn't been great.
Speaker 3: The run defense in general hasn't been great in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is surprising when you have, you know, the
Speaker 2: two good inside backers.
Speaker 3: In Hargrave and Armstead and heart Grave.
Speaker 2: Is not necessarily he's not a run stuffing There's a
Speaker 2: misconception there, get up the field guy just because he
Speaker 2: has the.
Speaker 3: Wide bottom half, will say. And in his dimensions you
Speaker 3: would think he's like an anchor in the middle. But
Speaker 3: he's an explosive couple ste I mean that's what he does.
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 2: That's the real kind of player he is, you know,
Speaker 2: So yeah, you can run on this on this team.
Speaker 2: And again we get back to this the start of
Speaker 2: the show. Running the football matters.
Speaker 3: Still matters, still matters, and these are two of the
Speaker 3: best teams in the league at it.
Speaker 2: If I had to put the I guess he over
Speaker 2: under on Pacheco carries for example this weekend pretty high.
Speaker 2: I'd say eighteen.
Speaker 3: I think that's about right. Probably sprinkle in four Mahomes
Speaker 3: scrambles and maybe they run the ball twenty eight times
Speaker 3: something like that. I went, McCaffrey, Oh, they're gonna feed
Speaker 3: a lot, a lot. Yeah, I mean that run defense
Speaker 3: isn't great either. Yeah. I would think both teams come
Speaker 3: in planning on running the football. I don't see a
Speaker 3: ton of points in this game. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be tens played in the twenties. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a shootout.
Speaker 2: I think he over runners like forty seven and a half.
Speaker 2: I think, look, I think maybe they just get over that,
Speaker 2: but not by a lot. It's not going to be
Speaker 2: a shootout. What you would think of, you know again,
Speaker 2: well forty nine ers offense and the Chiefs. No, I
Speaker 2: think this is you know, the Chiefs defense defense.
Speaker 3: It might be, Yeah, it might be. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I need to dig in this game more. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of matchups I just have feelings about, but don't
Speaker 3: have strong feelings about yet. And in the end I'll
Speaker 3: probably pick my homes, which is how we opened the show.
Speaker 3: He's doing pretty well for himself.
Speaker 2: Pretty well from self. That's going to do it for
Speaker 2: our show today.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Fine, we'll be.
Speaker 2: Back again tomorrow. Just again to remind everybody, we're doing
Speaker 2: five days a week this week. Next week we'll go
Speaker 2: to Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and of course you'll also be
Speaker 2: able to hear Wes and Arthur Motes on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know about that part. And then what
Speaker 3: we've come by before you know it back to hitting
Speaker 3: it hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be there all week long and shows and
Speaker 2: then you know, paged off from there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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