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Speaker 3: It's totally fair. We each get the first pick in

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Speaker 1: It's crazy how young is hungry. They're just their defense

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Speaker 2: There's never been anything where I've been listed ahead of you,

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Speaker 2: All right, Greg, I'm up next. Full disclosure. I already

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Speaker 1: You know, Mad Dog Russo voice like, good job by you, DJ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been an interesting journey with them this offseason

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Speaker 2: If you had to stop gap. They've had to make

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Speaker 1: So that that speaks to a depth on the roster

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Speaker 3: I just don't know.

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Speaker 3: So to get San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Here, they need a lot of things to come together

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to see just the receiver group how

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. But that's why I like them

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Speaker 1: It's all about everything is going to upside, and you

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Speaker 3: Back in a minute.

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Speaker 1: On forties and free agents for the last time before

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Speaker 3: And yet you guys are curious.

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Speaker 1: You know, the big wigs they love this show, DJ

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Speaker 1: They wanted to get as much as possible, and we

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Speaker 1: And then we'll be back on a nice weekly schedule.

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Speaker 1: Here we got nine picks left or eight picks left

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Speaker 2: eight teams the field, so to speak, versus one team, Like,

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00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: where would the cutoff on the list be where you

438
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 2: would say, Okay, I'd rather take these eight teams than

439
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 2: this one team if you look at who we've picked

440
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 2: so far.

441
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's much different than than the AFC, where

442
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't feel as confident about the top of the

443
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 1: league because I think these eight teams are interesting. I

444
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 1: would rather have the Eagles and the Lions. I think

445
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 1: over these teams and I think that's it for me personally.

446
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I was looking at the same thing and saying, okay, well, gosh,

447
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 2: you know, there's so many questions with some of these

448
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 2: other teams, and I can I can wrap my brain

449
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: around some of these teams that we have left making

450
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 2: a magical run. And I think there's two for me.

451
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention the artist. Hopefully I'll end

452
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 2: up getting both of them. That could could that could

453
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: be on that list. So my next pick here, I'm

454
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: going to take the Seattle Seahawks of fighting Sam Darnold's Wow.

455
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 2: That surprised me. Yeah. So this is a team with

456
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: a lot of young pieces on the defensive side of

457
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: the ball. I always like to me when I look at,

458
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: you know, overall teams and upside, I go, Okay, defensively,

459
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: I start first of all with just speed, like, is

460
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 2: this a fast defense? Can they really really run? Some

461
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: of the best defenses every year? That's a key character trait.

462
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 2: You look at Super Bowl defenses, they fly around and

463
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 2: they can make the game really really fast. When you

464
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 2: get into the postseason against the best quarterbacks. I like

465
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: where they are there defensively with Seattle. I like what

466
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 2: they've done on the offensive line with Gray's abel coming

467
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: into the mix. He looks like a Pro Bowl player

468
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 2: very early in his career what we've seen from him.

469
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: And I don't care who you're playing against, you can

470
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 2: watch a guy move around and see what he's done.

471
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: He's going to be exceptional. Gonna need Sam to play

472
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: at a high level. You know, we'll see. I think

473
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: the scheme fits him well. You know, we'll see how

474
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: they have some of these they think, oh, it's a

475
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: little duplicateive of Cooper Cup and JSN, Like, how are

476
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 2: they gonna, you know, maneuver those guys and make that

477
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: whole thing work. I'm confident that they'll figure that out.

478
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: Tory Horton, I think is gonna be a good rookie form.

479
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm a big fan. I think they're going

480
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: to be fascinating to watch. I'll definitely be paying attention

481
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: to them. But I'm gonna go Seattle.

482
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: Now, you're letting your biases getting the way here. You

483
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: know you did it in the AFC. You take the

484
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers too early. You pass on the Chiefs because

485
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: of your loyalties, and now you're just taking this because

486
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: you just want Sam Donald to make me look dumb.

487
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: So you're just just wish cast.

488
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: I have Super Bowl.

489
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: I have a list remember in uh, what was it

490
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: Billy Madison where he has like the kill list of

491
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: like all the player like scratches, Billy Madison off. I

492
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: have a list of players Greg Hates that I'm rooting for,

493
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: you know, uh, Sam Donald, Mason Graham.

494
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: I don't know them personally. I just haven't been a believer.

495
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah that's the difference.

496
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: Okay, DJ, We're up to the tenth pick here, and

497
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: you might be a little surprised they don't have Michael

498
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: Parsons anymore.

499
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: I don't care.

500
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: We're deep. I look at quarterbacks, I look at offense.

501
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: I look I had a little bit of variance and

502
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: upside with this defense too, where I think Iberflus could

503
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: scheme up a perfectly solid, above average defense that this

504
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: offense with Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens and Dak Prescott

505
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 1: and a young improving offensive line Kerry and they have

506
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: a lot of.

507
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: The same players.

508
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have Microp Parsons anymore, that won twelve

509
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 1: games three straight years. That's a pretty good team at

510
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: twelve straight you know, twelve and three straight years. I

511
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are still a perfectly fine value here.

512
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 3: I feel good about it.

513
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: DJ, you just seem to be smiling an awful lot

514
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: covering your mouth. I don't play poker, but those seem

515
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: to be a lot of tels that are coming out

516
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: from Moster Rosenthal after this selection. I am. Here's what

517
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: I am. I'm excited about this offense. I do think

518
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: George Pickens is a perfect compliment to Ceedee Lamb. I

519
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 2: don't know what George Pickens looks like four years from

520
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: now with the Cowboys or how well that's going to age,

521
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: but I think in a short term situation, I think

522
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: he has an outstanding year. Offense is going to score points. Defensively,

523
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: You've been bullish on the depth of their edge rushers.

524
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: I'm a Easeraku guy down of a Zeraku come out

525
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: of Boston College. I'm excited to see him as a

526
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 2: rookie get out there. I just I can't again, I

527
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: just have a hard time getting away from the practice

528
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: watching the Rams. Just torch that secondary that worries me.

529
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: That worries me, buddy.

530
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: This this famous practice with the Rams.

531
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It's just such a small taste. It's

532
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: like literally going to watch a preview of a movie

533
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: and then I'm listening at you know, it's like either

534
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 2: a favorite or at least favorite based off of a preview.

535
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: But I can't get out of my head.

536
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: It's been a bummer of a training camp for the

537
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: Cowboys to be overshadowed by this entire Michael Parson thing.

538
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: But their fans just assumed it would have a happy ending,

539
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: and it really doesn't. You have a couple of first

540
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: round picks in the future to look forward to. You

541
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: have Kenny Clark, who will certainly play for this team,

542
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: but I don't think is a massive plus.

543
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: Player at this stage of his career.

544
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: But you do have Tyler Geyton, you have who am

545
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: I thinking at, Cooper Bebee? Yeah, Booker, you have Tyler Smith.

546
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: If you're looking for some surprise teams, a young, growing

547
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: offensive line, I think is a good place to start.

548
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: It's the tenth pick, so I feel good about it.

549
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: What do you got next?

550
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I don't know why I

551
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: never realized that this is the UCLA defensive tackle room. Now,

552
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: Kenny Clark and Odigazua representing the Bruins there, and you

553
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: know those two defensive tackles. I I'm excited to see

554
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: them playing next to each other. But I'm also looking

555
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: at this going is there a chance of this thing

556
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,239
Speaker 2: goes terribly wrong? Like? Could could they be? Could they

557
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: be bad enough to be a top five pick? Is

558
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: that at all on the cards? Is it possible if

559
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: it could go bad? Like? Are they I'm just getting

560
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: at the point. Is this they could they actually get

561
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: themselves if he were to come out in arch Manning territory,

562
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: Because you know Jerry Jones, that would be his coup

563
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: de gras right there. Can you imagine?

564
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I am certainly hoping that because

565
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm predicting the opposite. I think Dak Prescott is too good.

566
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: I think Brian Schottenheimer is gonna hold this team together.

567
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: Are they a quarterback in away from being in the

568
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: art sepiratory?

569
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could say that.

570
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: You could say it. Not every team. So the next

571
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: one here, again, I feel like all of these come

572
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 2: down to two teams here. When I'm looking at the

573
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: choice between this team or the other team, and it's

574
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: it's it's literally a coin flip on this one for me.

575
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: Between these two, I'm not going to mention who they are,

576
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go with Arizona. This is my next pick.

577
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: Would have been my pick. So you got me there.

578
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like hearing that. To me, look at

579
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: Kyler and his ceiling. If we're talking about winning a

580
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: super Bowl again, that's the criteria. There's no you win

581
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: this amount of games, that amount of games you where

582
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: do you finish in the division? Do you win a

583
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: playoff game? Nope, it's strictly can you win the super Bowl?

584
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: And to me, Kyler Murray at his peak, at peak

585
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, it's pretty special. Now can he stay there?

586
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: Can he be consistent? That's been the knock. But is

587
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: he capable of a three or four week run of

588
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: spectacular football? I think he is, so I'll put him

589
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: on there. Hopefully, Marvin Harrison, they get a better feel

590
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 2: for how to use him this year in this system.

591
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: I think the defense they've continued to build on that

592
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: side of the ball. I think they're extremely well coached.

593
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: Maybe one of the more underrated coaching staffs in the NFL.

594
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with Arizona.

595
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the more I think about it, I don't know.

596
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: I've been so afraid of Arizona, like making a.

597
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 3: Pick on them.

598
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: They were not part of our over unders draft, and

599
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: I haven't really been sure what to think.

600
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: You just can.

601
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: Nobody talks about them. Nobody talks about them. They're very

602
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: well coached. Those guys can coach man.

603
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: Look, we have a daily show that we've been doing

604
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: all offseason, just about daily that we've talked about everyone.

605
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: We've talked about them, and I'm with you on the

606
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: defensive side. And in this scenario, some of their injuries

607
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: that maybe have gotten me off the scent in training camp,

608
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: they'll get those guys back. Bij Ojelari was a good

609
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: player for them a couple of years ago. He's not

610
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: back yet, and that's a little worrisome. They lose their

611
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: first round pick, Walter Nolan. He's out for the start

612
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: of the season. But in this scenario, they're back and

613
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: they're helping the games that it matters, all right, I'm

614
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: not in on the Bears.

615
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: The Bears. No, you're going Atlanta, are you?

616
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Just like Jedi mind tricking me into this. That is

617
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna go to the Bears. You want me

618
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: to take Atlanta, I'll just get no.

619
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: I I thought I thought that that was my choice.

620
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Was Arizona Atlanta. Those are the two.

621
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: No, I'll stick with it. I won't take the Falcons

622
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: just to spite you. Although, now that I think about it,

623
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: in that division, man, it's the right go ahead, but

624
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm taking.

625
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: Is it too late? Do we have do we have

626
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: a judge that no?

627
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm taking Atlanta understanding.

628
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just convinced me into it.

629
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: It's partly because of that division, but yeah, the ceiling

630
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: on the defense and the offensive side of the ball

631
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: compared to any of the other teams left, I do

632
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: think it's higher than the Bears, for instance.

633
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to see him get those two rooky

634
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: pass rushers going. You know, if you're going to say, again,

635
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: what's the scenario how they actually win a Super Bowl?

636
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: Which is lofty, you know, and that's why there are

637
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: at this point in the draft. But you could say, Okay, Pennix,

638
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: he can elevate. Didn't call went on a heater like

639
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: he could get hot. He's got up up upside with

640
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: his arm strength. They've got weapons galore, elite running back,

641
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: elite receiver, so you could see them getting hot there,

642
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: and then defensively they just they I don't know how

643
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: they even get into this conversation without those two rookie

644
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: edge dressers play major, major roles. So we'll see what

645
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: that looks like.

646
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I haven't heard great things I think out

647
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: of the preseason. To expect that they're going to come

648
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: out faster than a lot of rookies, like that's totally understandable,

649
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's something.

650
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: Pierce flashed a little bit just at speed, Yeah, a.

651
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: Little bit right now, I think Walker is behind I'm

652
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: so glad he did that, DJ, because I really am

653
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Speaker 1: rooting for the Falcons to win the Super Bowl now,

654
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: because if it all comes down to you talking me

655
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Speaker 1: out of taking the Bears in that spot and we

656
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Speaker 1: have two weeks of build up to the Super Bowl,

657
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: Falcons Ravens or something, I mean, that.

658
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Speaker 3: Is just going to be beautiful. How much I'm remind any.

659
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Speaker 2: Of that, I cannot believe I tricked you into that

660
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Chicago with my next pick here, and

661
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: I really am actually Chicago Caleb Caleb Caleb Kleb. He's

662
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: been kind of whatever you want to say, the punching bag,

663
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: the guy who's been under the microscope. Head coach is tough,

664
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: loving them up, but it's literally all on him. When

665
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Speaker 2: you look at the pieces on the offense, there's a

666
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Speaker 2: lot of fun weapons, creative play caller. They've upgraded the

667
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: offensive line. I still get a little nervous when there's

668
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Speaker 2: that much turnover on the offensive line. Even though you're

669
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Speaker 2: getting better, I still think that takes a minute for

670
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Speaker 2: all those guys to kind of get comfortable playing together.

671
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Speaker 2: So I think maybe lower your expectations that this is

672
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Speaker 2: going to be a top five offensive line in the

673
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Speaker 2: NFL with all these new pieces. Let's be patient. I

674
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: think they'll be better as the season goes along. And

675
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Speaker 2: then defensively, you know they're they're better. They're better, but

676
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a super Bowl caliber defense by

677
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Speaker 2: any stretch. They'd have to be by the offense.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, they have a good coach I

679
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: think defensively in Dennis Allen, in terms of his history

680
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: as a coordinator, I think it's pretty talented on defense.

681
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Speaker 1: The reason why you maybe did Jedi mind trick me there,

682
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Speaker 1: and I had the Bears at least on my pre

683
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Speaker 1: draft rankings ahead of the Falcons. Is I could see

684
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Speaker 1: a world where there are more of a complete team

685
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: than Atlanta. I can see a world where they're an

686
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: above average offense and defense, which you know you're going

687
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: to need to be both probably to win the Super Bowl.

688
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: Whereas to me, it's harder to squint and see that

689
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Speaker 1: about the Falcons defense.

690
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Speaker 3: But I'm up next. We've only got three team.

691
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Speaker 2: By the way, the only thing on the Bears is

692
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Speaker 2: just again when you look at their run defense, and

693
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Speaker 2: I like Montes sweat, They've got players at all three

694
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: levels of their defense that are good players. I just

695
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: to me, in the NFC, the NFC is the AFCs,

696
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback conference. The NFC is to me is the

697
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: physical conference. So like that that to me is on

698
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: the down side of the Bears is. I just want

699
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Speaker 2: to see him be a little more physical.

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Speaker 1: It's like the old you know, Chris Berman Swami days

701
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Speaker 1: and the NFC.

702
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Speaker 3: Norris. Yeah, they they're counting on some of their.

703
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: Black and Blue division.

704
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: Andrew Andrew billings Is. They're trying to, you know, stop

705
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: plays in the middle. But it's a good point. Grady Jarrett,

706
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: for instance, who the ad is not is not coming

707
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: in to stop the run. I like getting the Giants here.

708
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to imagine Jackson Dart. I think

709
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: that would be the only way they make it to

710
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: the super Bowl is with a magical rookie ride with

711
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart. But I do think the Giants are underrated

712
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: going into this season. I hate being so high on

713
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: over consensus on the two New York teams going into

714
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Speaker 1: the year, but I think they're both teams that they're

715
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: over under is about five and twelve people are expecting,

716
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: and I think they can both approach five hundred. This

717
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: is not a team without talent, like really good defensively upfront.

718
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: Certainly questioned in the back end, but I think their

719
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: defensive front could be so special uh it could.

720
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Speaker 3: Make up for it.

721
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Speaker 1: And ultimately, Brian Dable is a good offensive code, which

722
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: before Andrew Thomas got hurt last year, I think it

723
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: was the best offensive line easily that they had.

724
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Speaker 3: Key to me is maybe the number.

725
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: One Jenga piece to use that damachecheck term of any

726
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: of these teams. If you get an all pro level

727
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas. I think there is a path here for

728
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: this Giants team to be a real pain for the

729
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: other teams in the NFC East and the other team.

730
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Speaker 3: On their schedule.

731
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Speaker 2: They're going to be a painted block man. Abdul Carter

732
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: looked awesome and limited the limited exposure there in the preseason,

733
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Speaker 2: but it was what we saw in college, so I think,

734
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Speaker 2: you know, you add him to that front, him and

735
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence lined up next to each other, It's going

736
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: to be a lot of fun for the Giants. I

737
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: think they're a much improved team. Their schedule is brutal,

738
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Speaker 2: it is absolutely brutal, so that's going to be tough

739
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Speaker 2: for them to navigate. So now we come down to

740
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Speaker 2: it two NFC South teams and that to me, it's

741
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: not even close. I know they had the same record

742
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: last year with Carolina New Orleans, but it to me

743
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: feels like Carolina is a little bit on the climb,

744
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: whereas New Orleans is trying to figure out where they

745
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: are in this whole pross Right now, it feels like

746
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: definitely a rebuild year for them, where I feel like

747
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: a little bit of a build year for the Panthers.

748
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: I'm excited about the young receivers. I like the fact

749
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: they traded Adam Delon, that they're going to let Cocher

750
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: work in the slot. You're gonna have Ted Row and

751
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: McMillan on one side, Xavier Lygett on the other. Three

752
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: young receivers. But a lot of talent there for Bryce

753
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: Young to continue to grow and work with. And you know,

754
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: so I'm excited about watching this offense and Dave Canalis

755
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: this year. I'll take Carolina for me clearly over New Orleans.

756
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, good offensive line, fun, young receiver group. Dave Canais

757
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: is from the Pete Carroll tree in terms of that,

758
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: that's his mentor as a head coach, So I'm hoping

759
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: he can bring kind of the the overall cohesion and

760
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: team spirit for lack of a better word, and just

761
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: how hard they play. I think they'll need it. The

762
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: defense has a lot of questions. I really fear that

763
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: they could slide back and still be drafted near the top,

764
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: and I just don't want that. I'm sick of the

765
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: Panthers being a bad team, and I'm root and for

766
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: Bryce Young to really expand you know, draft knicks, like

767
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: your mind about uh, you know, the.

768
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 3: Short kings out here. The short guy's making it happen.

769
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: The short young guy, young guys.

770
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: You were always buying him. So yeah, I got the Saints,

771
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: who are the last pick for a reason. They would

772
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: be my last pick in all thirty two teams.

773
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: It just.

774
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: They had to rebuild at some point, and yet it's

775
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: not really a rebuilding season with the moves that they made.

776
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: There's a you know, they've got a couple of you know,

777
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen year veterans on the team, including one we

778
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: podcast with I mean, Cam Jordan can still help a team,

779
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: but does you know, does he and to Mario Davis

780
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: and and a lot of the players on this team,

781
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: are they going to be there the next time the

782
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: Saints are really competitive?

783
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: Probably not.

784
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: So they're just in an in between season and they're

785
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: headed towards what we'll be talking about all us next

786
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: time you see in the spring. Yeah, we'll be talking

787
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: about all the quarterbacks. How's it looking? By the way,

788
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: have you done a little well?

789
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: You know this quarter I'm excited for college football to

790
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: really get underway and get you know, a month of

791
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: games under our belt here and then have a better

792
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: feel for it. But for some guys, I like, I'm

793
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: excited about it. I was going to say, I was

794
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: going to ask you the question, but you already answered it.

795
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: If we had Cleveland as the last pick in the

796
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: AFC and New Orleans as the last pick in the

797
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: NFC the favorite to have the number one pick in

798
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: the draft, I would go to New Orleans as well.

799
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: I would go to New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Man, I hope it's not Carolina in the mix at

801
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: the end of the year, but that wouldn't That wouldn't

802
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: totally shock me either.

803
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: But you have Browns.

804
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: This is all chalk. Well in the end, we're going

805
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: to be wrong. That's what I love about the NFL season.

806
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: It's what I love about draft season too, because I

807
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: follow it as a total casual and you'll hear some

808
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: things in September and October, and then by the time

809
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: we actually get to draft season and the combine and everything, man,

810
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: everything is completely flipped.

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Speaker 3: I mean, show me.

812
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: The place that had RG three going high in that

813
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: draft in October of that year, or or Cam Whorton even.

814
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: At Baker Mayfield and on and right.

815
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: So we're we're just getting going.

816
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: It's going on. Can I can I do one thing here,

817
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: Greg before we sign off for a little bit here.

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Speaker 2: The feedback has been so overwhelmingly positive on forties and

819
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: free agents, and it was so much so that instead

820
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: of waiting till the spring, we brought back these episodes.

821
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: Would we do eight episodes or something like that and

822
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: the ten ten episodes in the run up to the season,

823
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: So we are going to come back. Greg mentioned it

824
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: quarterly and then and then some stuff towards the end

825
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: of the year. We've got some ideas we're kicking around.

826
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Speaker 2: You know, potentially maybe once a team gets eliminated, or

827
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: a batch of teams gets eliminated, we could kind of

828
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: do a post mortem on what went wrong and maybe

829
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: look towards the off season with them look ahead a

830
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: little bit. So we got a bunch of different ideas

831
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: we're kicking around for how to continue this thing, keep

832
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Speaker 2: this thing alive. But I'm open, I'm open to the

833
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: listeners and viewers giving us some ideas that they might

834
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: have on how we can utilize this new little show

835
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: that we've we've built here.

836
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Speaker 1: Well, I thought that was awesome, wholesome setup to some

837
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: shot you were going to take at me.

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00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: That's us. No, no, we've got a night. We got

839
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: a cool little community. We've taken. We're like a blended family.

840
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: We've taken the Move the Sticks family. We've taken the

841
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: NFL Daily family. We're like the Brady Bunch for a

842
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: real relative new reference there, you know, in our little

843
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: box is looking up at each other. But I thought, hey,

844
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: let's open up to them. They might have better ideas

845
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: than we do of how we could do this thing.

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00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 3: I love that.

847
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to get the Jeremiah and their

848
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: actual Rosenthal families together. That would be chaos, that'd be

849
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: who knows what.

850
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: I think the Jeremiahs could babiesit the Rosenthals. We're a

851
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: little older over here.

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00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: Yes, we will be back in a little over a bunch.

853
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: I think that the plan is to come back with

854
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: a quarterly shows, and so we will see then. But

855
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: obviously please check out DJ all over NFL Network, but

856
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: all over the Move the Sticks feed with Bucky Brooks

857
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: and Rhett will be jumping in there throughout the season

858
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: and obviously the next NFL Daily that you hear, and

859
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure the next Move the Sticks is going to

860
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: be in our regular week ones schedule. Starting to look

861
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: ahead to games that actually matter. I can't wait until

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Speaker 1: next time. Appreciate y'all,