1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up, What's up, Mets Up fans? We 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: are back with a bonus episode, our first bonus episode. 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: This one was so much fun. We got to interview 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Todd Zeal and David Cohne. So we're gonna go ahead 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: and talk about that real quick, just because what an 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: awesome experience our first time doing interviews with former players. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Because we talked to Trevor May earlier in the offseason, 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: how'd you feel Todd z was great. 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Todd's was awesome, and Todd Zeal is someone that was 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: a player when we were a kid, someone we had 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: some exposure to, probably a little more than David Cone, 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: probably time of it before our time, but just really 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: good to get the perspective of someone who's been on 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: so many teams, so many organizations, has had a relationships 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: with so many different people inside the game and not 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: in the game, which we've learned. 17 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, no, they have a lot of great insight 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: for you, guys, and we're excited for you to hear it. 19 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and get to those interviews. All right, guys, 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: So we're here today with David con We have a 21 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: fantastic interview. Get to ask him a little bit about 22 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: the Mets and what his Mets experience was like, playing 23 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: with them right before the Sunday night baseball game. So, David, 24 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: first off, the thank you for join us. 25 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 26 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 1: The Mets have had quite a year and the pitching 27 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: has been kind of. 28 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: Stealing the show a little bit. 29 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: Who's been the most impressive Mets pitcher you think this year? 30 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: Well, I mean just Sureser, right, Max, Right, I mean 31 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of his. He's a generational pitcher. 32 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: He's going to the Hall of Fame. So the thing 33 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 4: that amazes me about him is that he hasn't lost 34 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: a step. He still looks the same. I find that 35 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 4: pretty remarkable. 36 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, back in Queens City Field, not necessarily your home, 37 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: but we know the Mets was a place playing with 38 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: the Mets, this was a place you did call home 39 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: for a while. What's the difference between announcing a national 40 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: game on Sunday Night Baseball compared to usual gig announcing 41 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: for the Yankees. 42 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: For the New York fans, you know, it's similar. I 43 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: think that both in New York broadcasts, either an SNY 44 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: or the s networker are kind of almost like national broadcasting. 45 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: The production value the number of cameras. You know, it 46 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: does sort of feel have that feel of a big 47 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: game like a national broadcast does. But you definitely take 48 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: a more bird's eye view of everybody in the whole 49 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: league and to keep you know, trying to be more 50 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: broad in your approach as opposed to, you know, specifically 51 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: for your fan base. 52 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: You came to the Mets after the big eighty six season. 53 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: What was it like to get into that locker with 54 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: all the veteran presence that they had and after such 55 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: a crazy year with that team. 56 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a crazy year eighty seven. I mean 57 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: I didn't think I was going to make the team first, 58 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: you know, how do you crack the eighty six Mets. 59 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: There's no there's no room on that. 60 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: Team, you know. 61 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: I made the team, luckily, got hurt early in the 62 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: year trying to bond just you know, fractured my hand, 63 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: my pinky, and came back. And it was an unusual 64 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: year because everybody in the rotation that year got hurt. 65 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: The entire starting rotation got hurt that year, and so 66 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: that was a devastating year. You know, coming off the 67 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: eighty sixteen I still say, if there was a wild card. 68 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: Back then, in that era that we would have had 69 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: a few more shots at the playoffs. It might have 70 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: been a different story, but you know it wasn't to be. 71 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: Back then, the Mets, as I'm sure you know, pitched 72 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: to No hither on Friday Night and Intennans for that 73 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: was an unbelievable experience. It's hard to have an interview 74 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: with you without talking about the perfect So coming from 75 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: the other side, the player's perspective, what is going through 76 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: your mind as those innings start taking away and you're 77 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: realizing what could potentially be happening. 78 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: Oh, especially with the Mets. It's the historical nature of it. 79 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: We all wanted to be the first guy for the 80 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 4: Mets to throw no hitter. We all wanted to be 81 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: that guy. Dwight Gooden and I talked about it, So 82 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: Fernandez and I talked about it. Wow, we all had 83 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: several chances. I had maybe a half a dozen games 84 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 4: as a Mat from the seventh inning on or so 85 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 4: that that something happened. He was the one that got 86 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: broken up in the eighth inning. I still remember. Wow, 87 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: I can tell you about it. 88 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: Who broke it up? 89 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: Benny DeStefano, Pittsburgh Pirates, back then it was in the 90 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: eighth inning, so I think he's in New York. 91 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: He's a New York kid splitter. He cueued it off 92 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: the end of the bat. 93 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: It died on the third baseline. Wow, that's how the 94 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: no hitter broke up. Then we all wanted to be 95 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: the first guy to do it. Johann was so. And 96 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: then you know the fact that it's a combined no hitters. Okay, 97 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: it's still historical, it still should be celebrated. 98 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: For sure. 99 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: You had a pretty awesome start to last game of 100 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: the ninety one season going up against the field struck 101 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: out nineteen. Was that a day that like you just 102 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: felt different, You thought you were gonna be able to 103 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: just dominate like that. 104 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: I think that was the last day of the season 105 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: and the bags were packed. One of the everybody's mind 106 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: was elsewhere, you know, on the posts on you know, postseason. 107 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: If you're not you know, in the playoffs, obviously you're 108 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 4: going golfing. So yeah, I think that was it. There 109 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 4: was a rookie lineup, a lot of young guys. It 110 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: was the last day of the season. There's a lot 111 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: of free swinging going on that day, So yeah, it 112 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: was it was kind of, you know, the the what 113 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: was going on that day kind of fit into that 114 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: nineteen strikeout game. 115 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: Nice. 116 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: It was one of our last questions for you. Thank 117 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: again for taking time to talk to us. But you 118 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: were traded from the Mets the Blue Jays in nineteen 119 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: ninety two seasons. You were one of the premier trade 120 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: deadline acquisitions that year. How does it feel being that 121 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: player that a team you know, was like tending off 122 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: of that set to get you It turned out to 123 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: be Jeff Kenn solid ballplayers. How does it feel that 124 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: pressure and then jumping right into a pretty intense race like. 125 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: That tremendous pressure? 126 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: Really is? 127 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: You feel it when you go there because the team 128 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: that you're traded to is in the race, they're in 129 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: the middle of a pennant, and they really expect you 130 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: to come through to be a difference maker for them. 131 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: So you certainly feel that. And at the time too, 132 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: I was coming up on free agency, so it was 133 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: kind of the double double edged sword there. You want 134 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: to help your new team and really come through for them, 135 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: and at the same time you're trying to set your 136 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: future up too as well, and your first shot out 137 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: for a free. 138 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: Agency very cool. Awesome. 139 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, David, thank you so much for taking this interview. 140 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: Really do appreciate it. 141 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 4: And let's go Mets my plage you thanks for having me. 142 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 5: All right, guys, welcome back to the Mets of the Podcast. 143 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: We have an awesome interview today talking to former Met 144 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: currently sn Y analyst Todd ziel Go and ask him 145 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: a couple of questions, talk about his Mets experience, talk 146 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: about his career as a baseball player. 147 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: Todd, first and foremost, thank you for joining us. 148 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: Really do appreciate you pleasure. I love your set up here. 149 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: Man. 150 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: This this is actually all of our equopmen. 151 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 6: That's a big time lands. I think that's gonna get 152 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 6: a little up close and personal here. 153 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: So well, but of course we would have to ask 154 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: you about your experience with the Mets, what it was like, 155 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: what it felt like to be a part of the 156 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: New York Mets organization. 157 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 6: Well, you know, I signed with the Mets coming into 158 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 6: the two thousand season, and it was very sort of unexpected. 159 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: I had had a couple of good years. 160 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 6: In Texas, was comfortable there, had negotiated an extension there, 161 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 6: put a bit on a house, was all signed, sealed, 162 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 6: and delivered, and then Olrud made the announcement that he 163 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 6: was headed back to Seattle, and immediately, like in a 164 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 6: matter of hours, you know, everything changed. 165 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: And it just happened to be during the time of 166 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: the Winter. 167 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 6: Meetings, and I just felt like this team coming off 168 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 6: in ninety nine, Robin Ventura being a friend of mine, 169 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 6: Mike and I obviously having come from La together to 170 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 6: the Marlins before he came here. 171 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: I thought they had something special going on. 172 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 6: And I think I surprised a lot of people in 173 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 6: Texas and said. 174 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: You know what, I want to be in New York Mets. 175 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 6: So that was the start of it, and then it's been, 176 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 6: you know, a huge part of my overall baseball life 177 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 6: since then. 178 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: With that coming over the Mets in two thousand, you 179 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: immediately were swept into what became a Pennant Race kind 180 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: of race. You played very well in the year after that, 181 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: of course, not eleven struck in Europe. You were on 182 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: the field for the Piazza home runs. We've been in 183 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: a short period of time relatively so the history of 184 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: the Mets. You were here for some of the most 185 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: memorable moments. Is there anything that sticks out particularly in 186 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: your minds from your Mets career. 187 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you mentioned a couple of them right there, certainly, 188 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 6: And you know, I think I played with eleven teams. 189 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: I played a lot of years. 190 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 6: I think I had sort of an identity in some way, 191 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 6: shape or form with the Cardinals, a little bit with 192 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 6: the Dodgers because I grew up there, and then primarily 193 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 6: here with the Mets. But I think the difference with 194 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 6: me and the Mets is a World Series here, nine 195 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 6: to eleven here, which was a huge deal and a 196 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 6: big part of what really kind of bonded me to 197 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 6: this city. And then I ended my career here as well. 198 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 6: So three sort of milestones during that period. But among 199 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 6: everything that I ever was a part of, not just 200 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 6: with the metsmen in baseball period, the aftermath of nine 201 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 6: to eleven, the way the team rallied, our sort of 202 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 6: being united with the city, and then to have it 203 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 6: all sort of culminate on the nine to twenty one 204 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 6: game is the most I think, you know, relevant and 205 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 6: important part of my career. No matter you know what 206 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 6: kind of other things came and went, that was the 207 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 6: one that still sticks out, as you know, a clear 208 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 6: number one. 209 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: Do you get goosebumps seeing that. I mean, you were 210 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: on the field, so you got to experience it. I 211 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: was five years old at the time, so it didn't 212 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: mean as much then to me because I just didn't 213 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: really understand. But now watching it's hard not to get goosebumps. 214 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: How did it feel to be on the field. 215 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. 216 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 6: There was so many things that happened leading up to 217 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 6: it and then on that day, and quite honestly, you know, 218 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 6: two years ago when we started looking towards the anniversary 219 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 6: of it, I was asked to kind of relive it 220 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 6: for a documentary being done, and in so doing I 221 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 6: realized that there was so little of the. 222 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: Game that I actually remember. There was all the surrounding things. 223 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 6: I remember coming to the ballpark, and I remember the immensity 224 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 6: of the security detail. I remember the dignitaries that were here. 225 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 6: I remember Mark Anthony singing the national anthem in the 226 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 6: place kind of erupting. I remember the first responders on 227 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 6: the field and some family members that I had become 228 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 6: friendly with at that point. I remember e Liza Minelli singing. 229 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 6: I had no recollection of how I did in the 230 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 6: game or how the game went. I except for Mike's 231 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 6: home run. So during that whole stretch, I actually rewatched 232 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 6: the games. 233 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: You mentioned. 234 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: You played your career for eleven years, starting with the Cardinals. 235 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: You're managed by Joe Tory. 236 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: It's one of the most illustrious baseball people in the 237 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: history of the city. 238 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: You know. 239 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: So when you were with the menistry with Bobby Valentine, 240 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: who I also say is one of the most memorable 241 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: managers in the history of this franchise. Is what's give 242 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: us either like a funny story or a funny memory 243 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: about either of both of those guys. 244 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh wow, put me on the spot here because 245 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm a Bobby. You'll see these, you know. 246 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was lucky, like sixteen year eleven teams, a 247 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 6: lot of different managers. Joe was my not my first manager, 248 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 6: but primarily my first manager because Whitey Herzog was with 249 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 6: the Cardinals when I signed there. Whitey resigned relatively early 250 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 6: in my tenure there. Joe took over and really was 251 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 6: a big part of that sort of formative time of 252 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 6: my career. And you know, we locked horns, we butted 253 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 6: heads initially, and it had mostly to do with the 254 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 6: fact that I had been a catcher from the time 255 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 6: I was six years old until my second year in 256 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 6: the big leagues. And when Joe took over, the first 257 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 6: thing he said is, hey, you're my catcher. 258 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: Don't listen to anything. You're here, and I'm like here, 259 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: and I didn't. 260 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 6: I hadn't known anything that I wasn't And so two 261 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 6: weeks later, you know, Pedro Carrera got hurt, I got 262 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 6: moved first base. I never caught again. So during that 263 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 6: period of time, it was sort of his responsibility from 264 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 6: the organization to make it okay to move me. 265 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: They he had done it himself. 266 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 6: They used that as sort of this, hey, Joe did it, 267 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 6: you can do it, and Joe will teach you. But 268 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 6: we we locked horns on that a little bit, and 269 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 6: then out of that I think developed a great, great friendship. 270 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 6: He's like a second father to me still to this day. 271 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 6: Bobby ve very different. I'll give you a funny story 272 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 6: about Bobby Ve. 273 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: I signed, as we talked about, kind of late and suddenly. 274 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: And. 275 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 6: Like maybe within days or a week of the the announcement. 276 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 6: In the Winter meetings, there was a function here in 277 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 6: New York. It was kind of a meet the Mets thing, 278 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 6: and I the win for it. I showed up. I 279 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 6: walk in, and Robin and Mike and I were obviously friends. 280 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 6: I walked in, I walked up to Bobby and said, hey, 281 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 6: how you do it? 282 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: He had no idea who I was or not, and 283 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: he's like, hey, do I know you. 284 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 6: I'm like, well, I said, I'm your new first basement. 285 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: Oh, Tom didn't recognize you with the hair and the nit, 286 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: you know. But that was the way we kind of started. 287 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 6: And you know, Bobby isn't one of the most unique 288 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 6: managers because he's I tease him about this at the time, 289 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 6: you know, during the time that we were together, and 290 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 6: then since then, especially is that he's one of the 291 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 6: few guys that every once in a while you figure 292 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 6: like the players weren't even really a part of the game. 293 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: It was him against the guy on the other side. 294 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 6: Especially if we played the Cardinals and it was Larusa 295 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 6: against Valentine. It was, you know, a lot of moves 296 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 6: and chess games, and the players were just the ponds. 297 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 6: But he's one of the the I think prepared managers 298 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 6: that I've ever ever seen. We've really kind of developed 299 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 6: a fun friendship. 300 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: Since then, I've. 301 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: Seen a big influx of analytics in baseball the last 302 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: few years. Were any of the guys then kind of 303 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 1: like on the forefront. Was Bobby more of a traditional 304 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: manager or was he kind of maybe looking at some 305 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: different stuff that maybe other managers weren't. 306 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 6: It's a great question, because there were some things that 307 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 6: I've heard since I left the game, guys talking about 308 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 6: early analytics stuff, But there was never anything that I 309 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 6: was really that aware of personally, because I was sort 310 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 6: of an old school I didn't watch a lot of video. 311 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 6: I didn't like to see myself hit. I kind of 312 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 6: got a feel for things in different ways, and so 313 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 6: some of the younger guys coming up towards the end 314 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 6: of my career spent a lot of time watching video 315 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 6: and there was a lot more analysis. There was more 316 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 6: information being given, but it didn't seem like it had 317 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 6: permeated from the top down of most organizations, least at 318 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 6: that point, like from the manager to the players. 319 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: It was more so. 320 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 6: An individual with maybe a hitting coach or an individual 321 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 6: with a pitching coach. 322 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: They would look at some certain things. But as it's 323 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: evolved into the game, I. 324 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 6: Can tell you that you know, a guy like Bobby 325 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 6: absolutely would take all the information that he could get 326 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 6: his hands on wouldn't necessarily take away from his gut 327 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 6: because I still think he feels like you have to 328 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 6: manage with your eyes and you know, as I coined 329 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 6: on the show one time, your eyes and not your iPad. 330 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 6: I think that there is some feel for that. And 331 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 6: I think you've got a guy here now with Buck 332 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 6: that is very much the same. I mean, he's old 333 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 6: school in a lot of ways, but he absorbs all 334 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 6: the information. 335 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: And then makes you know, choices out of it. 336 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: Which current met this this year so far as you've 337 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: been an analyst for us, And why has impressed you 338 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: the most this season? 339 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 6: Well, I mean Max Schureser, I think think is impressive, 340 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 6: but it was I expected it out of him in 341 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 6: a weird way, right, He's seen him so much, you'd 342 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 6: seen him be so good against these Mets, and he 343 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 6: knew his intensity, you knew. 344 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: What he was going to bring. 345 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 6: I think the guy that might have surprised me. And 346 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 6: there's a couple I've talked a lot about Escobar because 347 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 6: I think he's a really good pickup. 348 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: I really like Chris Bassett. 349 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 6: I think he's a very smart, thinking man's pitcher that 350 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 6: has a lot of things to bring to the staff. 351 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 6: But Mark Canna has to me been the biggest surprise 352 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 6: because I didn't know much about him at all, and 353 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 6: I love watching his at bats, whether he gets hits 354 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 6: or not. He knows what he's doing up there. He 355 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 6: drives the pitcher's crazy, he used the opposite field. He 356 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 6: gets big two out hits, two strike hits, and he's 357 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 6: a guy that I think just has helped lengthen this 358 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 6: Mets lineup. 359 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, Mark Anne is one of the guys that 360 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: we talked about a lot too that we love the 361 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: way that he plays the game. And it feels like 362 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: the Mets have kind of taken a little bit of 363 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: a new approach with how they're trying to play his game. 364 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: A lot more guy trying to get on base with 365 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: the ball and play and it seemed to pay off 366 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: this year. 367 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 5: Did you expect the Mestic them off to this how 368 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 5: of a start this year? 369 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if I expected this type of start. 370 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 6: You knew that the pieces were there, right, it was 371 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 6: a matter of whether or not all the pieces were 372 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 6: going to fire. And you've seen in the last couple 373 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 6: of years sometimes that there was reason for optimism because 374 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 6: some of the pieces were doing well, but they were 375 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 6: not all gelling at the same time most of the time. 376 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: So they haven't hit. 377 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 6: Stride, and yet there's still big two out hits and 378 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 6: when you have the kind of pitching that they have, 379 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 6: and you know if you hang close enough, you're going 380 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 6: to find a way to win. That's the feeling that 381 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 6: I get, which very you know much reminds me of 382 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 6: the two thousand team. We had this ability to kind 383 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 6: of stay close and always thought it for within a 384 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 6: couple of runs either way by the sixth than it 385 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: was our game to win. 386 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: And that's the way this team feels to me. 387 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, this team definitely has a new found confidence, 388 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: something that we haven't seen from the Mets in a 389 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: long time. 390 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: How does it feel to be on the other side 391 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: of things now, be a part of the media as 392 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: opposed to be a player. 393 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 6: Well, I think, you know, fortunately or unfortunately, I don't 394 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 6: know how I would phrase it. I took sort of 395 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 6: a left turn away from baseball. 396 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: When I retired. 397 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 6: I mean I ended in two thousand and four and 398 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 6: really didn't have any part of anything until about twenty fifteen, 399 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 6: twenty sixteen. 400 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 3: Again, and I. 401 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 6: Think because of that break and pursuing other things, figuring 402 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 6: out some other life things. By the time I got 403 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 6: back in and was able to put my toe in 404 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 6: the water here and kind of welcome back as a 405 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 6: part of this sort of Mets family, I was really 406 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 6: ready to be a fan again and enjoy kind of 407 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 6: digging in. I love the idea of focusing on one 408 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 6: team instead of you know, I did some things for MLB. 409 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 6: I did a few things for Fox, and I always 410 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 6: felt like I was cramming for a final or something 411 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 6: when I was going to do work for them. I 412 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 6: didn't know anything about who was playing, you know, second 413 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 6: base in Double A for the Indians. 414 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean, nor do I want to. 415 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 6: I don't care what I what I Oh, yeah, Guardians, Yeah, 416 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 6: there you go. What I do care about is this organization. 417 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 6: They've been great to me and the ownership has always 418 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 6: embraced me. So I've been, you know, really proud to 419 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 6: be to be back, and you know, and I'm excited 420 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 6: about what's going on this year. 421 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: You just mentioned briefly about turning a taking a hard 422 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: turn away from baseball when you retired two thousand and four, 423 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: and we just don't grow up in Los Angeles and 424 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: you did you gots acting at the Hollywood. We read 425 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: an old Sports Illustrated article fro maybe fifteen years ago 426 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: or so, you had that you had some type of 427 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: a strong friendship with Charlie Sheen as as wild as 428 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 2: then was anybody could ever hear, and you two even 429 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: at one point we read this went to Scotland to 430 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: hunt the Locknest Monster. 431 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: That's one of the few true things we're going to hear. 432 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 3: And I wanted to read about Charlie. Yeah, you know what. 433 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 6: Weirdly, I had been friends with his manager who had 434 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 6: there was a baseball connection there. His manager was a 435 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 6: producer of Bull Durham and the sand Lot and things 436 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 6: like that was around baseball. But Charlie is an avid 437 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 6: baseball fan and a student of the game, like really 438 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 6: knowledgeable and extraordinarily smart. And when I got out of 439 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 6: the game, I did some stuff on the production side. 440 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 6: I didn't really get into acting, but I had written 441 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 6: the treatment for a series and it was sort of 442 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 6: part autobiographical, part kind of what do you do after 443 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 6: you know you've done this for a big part of 444 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 6: your life. 445 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: And I sent it over to Mark and to Charlie. 446 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 6: And Charlie loved the concept of it and said, hey, 447 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 6: let's develop. 448 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: This with Warner Brothers. 449 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 6: He had at that point a good relationship still with 450 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 6: Warner Brothers, and so it literally started like that we 451 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 6: were going to produce and develop this show that I 452 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 6: called the Postseason. And during that period of time came 453 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 6: Plaza Hotel, Tiger's Blood Winning Craziness, the interview in his 454 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 6: house that I was there for, and then and it 455 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 6: was just all of a sudden, it was just this 456 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 6: tornado or whatever you want to call it around us 457 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 6: that was hard to believe in that period of time. 458 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 6: I think the couple of things that if there's anything 459 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 6: I'd want people to know about that period myself included 460 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 6: in Charlie is that was he was one hundred percent 461 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 6: sober and clean during that period. When he when he's 462 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 6: not in the dark place, his mind fires like nothing 463 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 6: you've ever seen before, and he gets sort of this 464 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 6: manic energy and it was just firing like crazy during 465 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 6: that period. And you know, the next thing I knew, 466 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 6: I was with him to China be his balancing peace 467 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 6: on that Torpedo Truth tour. And you know, my job 468 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 6: on that was take him out and to have batting practice, 469 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 6: go play catch in the lot somewhere, get his mind 470 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 6: away from some of the craziness that was going on. 471 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 6: And then the next thing you knew, he was fired 472 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 6: from Two and a half Men and he said, okay, 473 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 6: we're doing your show. And so postseason became something called 474 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 6: cell Service, which then became Anger. 475 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: Management, and then there you go. 476 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 6: We we ended up with five years of you know 477 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 6: that period to the end of that run. 478 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, that's that's a pretty crazy storry to imagine. 479 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 6: I can't even There's a lot more the other we 480 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 6: we were We did do the rowboat in Scotland Locke ness. 481 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 6: It was this weird sort of idea that he had 482 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 6: from years before. He's like, we're going back there and 483 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 6: we're going to go and look for NeSSI on that. 484 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 6: If you ask him, he'll say that there was the 485 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 6: presence felt. I think it was just some some bad 486 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 6: awring by me, but but it was. He definitely had 487 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 6: his uh, had his little scotch out there to go 488 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 6: with it. 489 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 490 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: No, I mean that was I think pretty awesome to 491 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: get to just chat about the Mets, chat out of 492 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: your life for ten to fifty minutes there with an 493 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: interview top. 494 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for joining us my pleasure. 495 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate it hopefully well, and I'm happy to come 496 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 3: back anytime. 497 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 498 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: All Right, there they were the interviews. Like we said, 499 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: they were a lot of fun. The Todd zeal one 500 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: here in Charlie Sheen stories is always interesting. I didn't 501 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: expect to do that when we were doing our research. 502 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: I was like, I see Charlie Sheen, we got to 503 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: talk about that. 504 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: No, if you asked me what was the likelihood of 505 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: mentioning the lock and this monster in our conversation with Tazzil, 506 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: I'd say close to zero. And also it was cool 507 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: to hear David Cohne talk about how like how much 508 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: of a positive feeling being a met still gives him 509 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: to this day. 510 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, for a guy who played for again a bunch 511 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: of other teams, it's nice. They still kind of resonates 512 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: and feels like he is in New York met which 513 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: is awesome. 514 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: So they felt like home. 515 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was awesome. So we hope you guys 516 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: enjoyed those interviews, and we'll see on the next episode 517 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: of The Mess of the Podcast.