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Speaker 2: deliver for America dot Org. Well, the day didn't start well.

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Speaker 2: I backed out. I had Monday off because the World

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Speaker 2: Baseball Classic. I backed out of the garage. The door

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Speaker 2: wasn't all the way open, and I rammed it with

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Speaker 2: Anne's car, So that was just not good for me.

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Speaker 2: That was not and we're going on vacation Saturday. So

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Speaker 2: I got to make amends really quickly.

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Speaker 3: Did the garage door follow you or did the car

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Speaker 3: get the worst of it? Or what happened there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well the garage door stopped working and the car

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Speaker 4: So I said, all right, I'll go walk the dogs and.

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Speaker 2: Watch them. NFL free agency, so I've made peace with

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Speaker 2: it and had to go with her sister downtown Chicago,

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Speaker 2: so she had a cool off. All right, let's start

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Speaker 2: with this, okay. I know he only has six starts

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Speaker 2: NFL free agency. Malik willis twenty two million a year,

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Speaker 2: three year deal with the Dolphins. He is not to

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Speaker 2: a stop saying that he's a real athlete with a

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Speaker 2: better arm. He's got a much better arm than to it,

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Speaker 2: and he's really athletic.

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Speaker 4: I know he's young. I like him.

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Speaker 2: I you know, John, I've said this for years. I

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Speaker 2: don't know anything about music other than I like it.

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Speaker 2: I can watch these musical shows. I can tell him

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds if somebody has like lounge ACKed, or you

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Speaker 2: could sign him to a record deal. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know anything about music. I know a little about football.

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Speaker 2: When I watched that kid's escapability arm, he's got I

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Speaker 4: It's the it's Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: So he was well coached, but there were Packer fans

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Speaker 2: saying they thought he was as good or better than

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love. I think the Dolphins went and found a

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Speaker 2: very interesting player at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Well, the other thing is the people that just signed

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Speaker 3: him know him. And it's not the offensive coach to

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Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator that went against him forever, because you

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Speaker 3: know in the NFL, when you're the backup quarterback, you

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Speaker 3: run the you know, you run the scout team, you

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Speaker 3: service the defense. So Jeff Hafley had a front row

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Speaker 3: the right hand guy for Gudikins same thing. Right from

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Speaker 3: an evaluation standpoint, do you remember a guy improving this

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Speaker 3: like he was unplayable, and then last year when he

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Speaker 3: had to play, he was basically just a running quarterback.

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Speaker 3: When la Floor remember because he got hurt in Week

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Speaker 3: least something there. I gave Lafleur a lot of credit

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Speaker 3: this year to me with his arm was fantastic because

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Speaker 3: he proved two things. One he could come out of

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Speaker 3: on playing. And then let's face it, Love was kind

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Speaker 3: of hit or missed this year. In that game, he

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Speaker 3: was fantastic. And the cold weather, which is a big

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Speaker 3: knock on Tua and a big knock on the Miami

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Speaker 3: Dolphins can't play in cold weather? Well, why is that

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Speaker 3: what doesn't pierce the cold in the win? Weak arm strength?

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Speaker 3: Look at the great quarterbacks you know historically in that region,

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Speaker 3: Where do you play in New York? You know? Donovan McNabb,

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Speaker 3: But I'm with you. I not only like it, I

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Speaker 3: think it's an incredible story of just improvement. Clearly, he

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Speaker 3: was really raw when Tennessee drafted him. But the lafleur

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Speaker 3: the player deserves a lot of credit. Incredible story. I'm

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Speaker 3: with you. I think no brainer for him. Miami to

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Speaker 3: I like picking the spot, and you know, the guys

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Speaker 3: me at off. He I don't think he becomes like

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Speaker 3: career like what we saw last year. There is no

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Speaker 3: disputing he was a really good player in limited action.

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Speaker 3: Really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it should be noted that Sam Darnold and

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, you know we've seen this before. There's more

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Speaker 2: good offensive coaches, there's more sophisticated schemes. If you're a

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Speaker 2: hard working kid. You're not gobbling up, you know, too

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Speaker 2: all right. Here's another one. Mike Evans to the forty

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Speaker 2: They have been hit and miss on receivers. I thought

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Speaker 2: they over played their hand on Deebo. He was good,

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Speaker 2: briefly got hurt, moved him. Iux a disaster. Ricky Piersoll's solid,

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Speaker 2: red zone guy, Kittle, McCaffrey, Trent Williams. It's again older

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Speaker 2: It feels like Kyle Shanahan didn't have a ton of

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Speaker 4: He likes guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it feels like to me he likes

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Speaker 2: veteran players. So Mike Evans to the Niners again. This

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it fits their kind of mold, high character, high

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Speaker 3: the IU thing blew up in their face. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is the Rams are loading up

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Speaker 3: And the one thing you have to do the Rams

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Speaker 3: prove this if you have some firepower, that this is

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Speaker 3: not nineteen eighty seven, the rules are on your side

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Speaker 3: as an offensive coach. But they were rolling out practice

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Speaker 3: squad level guys. So you get Mike Evans, a future

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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer love That move doesn't shock me at all.

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Speaker 3: I mean that the forty nine Ers at this point

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Speaker 3: years in free agency, but that's a Kyle Shanahan tap.

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Speaker 4: Guy for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just listen, the entire team gets nicked up.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's been stories about some right next to

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true, but to me, he

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Speaker 2: feels so forty nine ers. All right, let me throw

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Speaker 2: another one at you. We talked about this yesterday. Tyler Lindebaum.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure why Baltimore didn't sign him, Probably because

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Speaker 2: they have a Lamar contract renegotiation coming up, renegotiation coming up.

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby's expensive, Kyle Hamilton outside of Creed Humphrey of

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, there's an argument Tyer Linderbaum is the best

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Speaker 2: center in football. I thought they were going to resign him.

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Speaker 2: He was a first round pick out of Iowa. Tough, smart, durable,

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Speaker 2: doesn't miss a lot of starts.

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Speaker 3: I love.

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Speaker 2: This is an A plus move to me by the

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Speaker 2: Raiders because this is what Ben Johnson did with the Bears.

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Speaker 2: You know, they went drafted jpj out of Oregon last year.

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Speaker 2: He's more of a guard. He was a center in college.

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Speaker 2: He's more of a guard. Then they bring in a

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl center for Fernando Mendoza. Now their offense, basically,

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Speaker 2: they'll probably they have so many picks, they'll probably get

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Speaker 2: probably draft a right tackle, fourth fifth round. I love

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Speaker 2: this to me, this is my favorite signing so far

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Speaker 3: Well, look at all the good teams, right, The Ravens

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Speaker 3: for the last four years have had one of the

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Speaker 3: The Bills just paid their center. Like, I mean, center

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Speaker 3: And I think if you're a Raider fan, you look

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Speaker 3: one of the better centers in the league. I just looked.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't missed a snap really in the last two years.

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Speaker 3: So this is a very durable classic like Midwest center. Right.

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Speaker 3: two years. Like he's not Kelsey or Kittle or anything,

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Speaker 3: but he was a unique player for them and made

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Speaker 3: goal against Pittsburgh on that Sunday night game. Who made

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Speaker 3: the crazy catch Isaiah Likely? How many teams have a

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Speaker 3: six to six guy. I mean, he kind of plays

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Speaker 3: like a little Darren Waller basketball player, elite athlete. You

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Speaker 3: just you don't need to be that accurate. Just throw

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Speaker 3: him a fifty to fifty ball, because it's not a

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Speaker 3: He's not the most durable player. He is a unique player, though,

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Speaker 3: So you tell me the Ravens on offense with this

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Speaker 3: twenty nine year old aging quarterback, new offensive coordinator lose

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Speaker 3: their you know, kind of just stalwart guy at center

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Speaker 3: and this unique chess piece with Likely. You know, Henry

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Speaker 3: Zay Flowers isn't exactly Jerry Rice. Good player, but I

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Speaker 3: mean their offense has some question marks, assuming their defense

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Speaker 3: that's to me something to keep an eye on with

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Speaker 3: the Ravens, who are clearly trying. You know, we talked

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Speaker 3: mean making it to the super Bowl. They're in this

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Speaker 3: little couple of year window now of them and the Bills.

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Speaker 2: I would say Kenneth Walker from Seattle to Kansas City again,

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Speaker 2: So I mean to me, Kenneth Walker is more valuable

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Speaker 4: I think Kansas City had to do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they had a choice either. I

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Speaker 3: they understand that that wasn't even going to be an

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Speaker 3: They gave him a substantial amount of money three years,

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Speaker 3: couple of years ago, that was essentially what Howie Roseman

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Speaker 3: Now that would be very opposite of Andy's history. But listen,

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Speaker 3: what do talented people in eddie industry do? They adapt?

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Speaker 3: They change Andy's changed how many times his offense? His

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Speaker 3: offense now ask anyone is dramatically different than it was

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Speaker 3: they got a good guard, they got a good center,

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Speaker 3: you know what, why don't we do some Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 3: and just run the ball, take a little pressure off

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Speaker 4: So what if the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Are their game plan this year is to be one

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Speaker 3: of the better rushing teams. Look at you know, the

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Speaker 3: Bills with Cook. Now Cook's a better player than Walker.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Travis Kelcey signs with them or somebody else?

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought he was gonna go to the Giants,

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Speaker 3: and then they signed likely and that's not happening. I mean,

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Speaker 3: by all accounts, maybe they're just as a tie that

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Speaker 3: I undervalue a little bit. This is a unique player

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Speaker 3: for the right price. I mean, at this point in time,

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Speaker 3: we go like five and incentivize that up if I

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Speaker 3: to be. These are my people which I value. I

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Speaker 3: Chiefs aren't just gonna well, Travis, here's the check. You

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Speaker 3: fill it in, like those days are kind of over

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Speaker 3: because he wasn't great last year. I mean the drops,

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Speaker 3: But this might just be a really tough one given

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Speaker 2: that feels like a Mike McCarthy bang the table. So

429
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Speaker 2: the Steeters are paying Dk metcalf and Michael Pittman. Suddenly

430
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh now is got an offensive staff that you've heard

431
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 2: of them before. Now they've got two expensive wide receivers.

432
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, it feels like that's a Mike McCarthy

433
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: bang the table move that Pittsburgh has been the highest

434
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Speaker 2: spending defense for I think four years in a row,

435
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: and I've argued for years, just move your money to offense.

436
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: That's what teams like the Rams are doing. So Pittman

437
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: to the Steeters. To me, it's sort of a changing

438
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: of the not only the guard, but changing of the

439
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: tide where they're moving offensive money.

440
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Speaker 3: I'm with you on Pittman, like you have folden since

441
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 3: usc feels like a mature version of Juju, just that

442
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: physical nature. I had a scout in kind of a

443
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: personnel executive last year that thought he regressed a little bit.

444
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 3: Look at it. In twenty two and twenty three he

445
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 3: was ninety nine catches and one hundred and nine catches.

446
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: I mean he had become a big time player. And

447
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 3: then last year he was banged up. But also so

448
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 3: you saw the emergence of Tyler Warren. They draft him.

449
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: Alt Pierce shot like a rocket ship. Obviously, Jonathan Taylor's

450
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: an excellent guy, and he I don't want to say

451
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: phased out because he was still productive in the games

452
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: he played, but it was like, we don't need We're

453
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: gonna go with Pierce's speed and Tyler Warren. Now again

454
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 3: for the Steelers, you don't have a quarterback, so I

455
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: get building up your team. But who's throwing these two

456
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: guys the ball?

457
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: Does this tell us that Aaron Rodgers is coming back?

458
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: Because Aaron doesn't like dealing. Brady didn't either. Aaron doesn't

459
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: like young receivers. That's not Aaron's jam. So is this

460
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: telling you that behind the scenes, Aaron said all come back,

461
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: so they get him. DK Metcalf, Michael Pittman Friarmouth feels

462
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: like a veteran now and all of a sudden you're like, okay,

463
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Speaker 2: that's an offense that Aaron can navigate.

464
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 3: And the big tight end that broke his leg last

465
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: late in the season from Washington, like, they have some

466
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: real pieces. Now they're running back positions a major question mark.

467
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 3: I think Gainwell went to the Bucks saw the kid

468
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 3: they drafted from Iowa in the third round was a disaster, right,

469
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 3: So to me, that position is gonna be key for them.

470
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: Maybe they could draft the backup from Notre Dame or

471
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: something and get, you know, a real running back. But

472
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Speaker 3: if you don't have a quarterback, I don't care if

473
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: you got Jerry Rice and Randy Moss out there because

474
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 3: Pittman and DK are that you got a real one

475
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 3: to two wide receiver now where it ranks in the league,

476
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Speaker 3: But those are real NFL veteran wide receiver.

477
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Speaker 4: Physical wide receiver win.

478
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: Some big games within the cold. But to me, it's

479
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: it just comes down to the quarterback position. So does

480
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Speaker 3: Aaron come back with McCarthy? Is that what you feel like?

481
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Speaker 3: If you were a betting man, would he say, Aaron

482
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Speaker 3: Rodgers back this this thing?

483
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Speaker 2: I would because I think he he said twice he's

484
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: been quoted saying I had a great time and I

485
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 2: will defend Aaron Rodgers. You know, I think he's been

486
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 2: prickly and moody, and I've got I had three different

487
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: packers at one point. Say you never knew what kind

488
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: of moody was shown up with. I think that's pretty clear.

489
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: I thought he was excellent last year. He got dinged

490
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: by PFF because he didn't throw the ball down the field. Well,

491
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: they didn't have downfield receivers, And I mean, to me,

492
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: they're a they're a tight end. I mean Pittman, DK, Washington, Friarmouth,

493
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren, I mean kind of a power team.

494
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 4: So and Aaron.

495
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: By the way, they were atrocious in the red zone

496
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 2: before Aaron, they were pretty good in the red zone.

497
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: Last year.

498
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: They cut down on interceptions, they cut down on penalties.

499
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: So I mean, I thought Aaron played the hand he

500
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: was dealt. It was not a very good receiving core.

501
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: Late in the year, DK metcalf missus two games because

502
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: of the incident with a Lions fan. I mean, they

503
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: have nobody to throw to. So I think I think

504
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: Pittman tells me a veteran receiver tells me that there's

505
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: a better than fifty percent chance that Aaron has told them. Listen,

506
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back. So there and they're and Aaron's

507
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: watching all this. And if you're Aaron watching this and

508
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: you're pretty sure you're coming back, does this motivate you

509
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: to come back?

510
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Speaker 4: That's a pretty good signing.

511
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I listen if he does. I have he

512
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: not that I didn't respect. To me, he's one of

513
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: the greatest players I've ever watched, But to play through

514
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: a broken hand like he did last year was on

515
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 3: a team that was pretty average, right, And if you

516
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: look at the course of the last couple of years,

517
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: the torn achilles, the broken hand like age is kind

518
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 3: of catching up to him. So if he does come

519
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: back after dealing with some of these injuries on a

520
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: team that, I mean ultimately was the Steeler ceiling next year,

521
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: it's kind of the same thing. Maybe compete to be

522
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: a nine to ten win team. You just got to

523
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 3: say the guy just loves playing football because he's not

524
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 3: doing it for the money at this point in time.

525
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 3: And it's not like he's got well he's playing on

526
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: the KD Warriors, right or the Steinbrener Yankees like this

527
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: isn't he doesn't have the best team even in his

528
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: own division. So if Joe Burrow just stays on the

529
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: field like it is going to be difficult for them

530
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: to be second in the division. So yeah, I mean,

531
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: I think McCarthy is better than he gets credit for.

532
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: The branding on him is just atrocious, right, I Mean,

533
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: we've talked about this. His resume next to John Harbaugh

534
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: is essentially the same thing.

535
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Speaker 2: We guy might he Mike Tomlin are very similar. The

536
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: difference is the league's an offensive league and he has

537
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: an offensive touch and Tomlin's a defensive guy. They're both

538
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: they're both motivators. They're both well liked by players. One's

539
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: an offensive guy. And if if i'm I'm trying to

540
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: split it up on who I like more. I thought

541
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: Tomlin's time, I.

542
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: Thought that he was.

543
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean their offense was a wreck for seven years.

544
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: Aaron actually healed a lot of the wounds. So I

545
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: think I don't think McCarthy's he's more than capable. And

546
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: go look at Cooper Rush and Dak both highly productive. Okay,

547
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 2: so you know one of the things that jumps out

548
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: to me between Mike Evan to the Niners, uh Rashawn

549
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: Gary to Dallas de Mario Davis, who's like his older

550
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: player goes back to the Jets, very very good player,

551
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: two year deal, twenty two million bucks. I think he's

552
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: a tremendous player, but he's an older player. Michael Pittman

553
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: an older player. Is he regressing it? You know what

554
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker had injuries, Kansas City rule the dice. Maybe

555
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: it's because the gambling money and the TV money, people

556
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: just have more led us to play with. But some

557
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: of these signings are older players regressing players, injured players.

558
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean Lindabaum to me to the Raiders that is

559
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: an A plus signing Malik Willis could be, but we

560
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

561
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: Alec Pierce.

562
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: I think they spent too much money, but again he's

563
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: in house. Chris loves him. With Daniel Jones, Warren, Jonathan Taylor,

564
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: I mean, not many teams in the league can say

565
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: back tight end number one receiver are better than the Colts.

566
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: I guess my kind of takeaway in this free agent

567
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: period is a lot of GMS if you liked the guy,

568
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: even if he was older, out of his prime, a

569
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: little dinged up, a lot of GMS just went for it.

570
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: It's aggressive GMing.

571
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: Well, the money has dramatically changed a short period of time.

572
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: I would just say in the last five years with

573
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: the cap space. So the old even you said Alex

574
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Pierce twenty nine million, that's like the old sixteen million

575
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: Linderbob the center, he the highest paid center before him,

576
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: he got twenty seventy year was like seventeen eighteen million dollars.

577
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 3: So when you factor in the flush of new cap space,

578
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: the flush of money to these owners part of the

579
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: reason the NFL free agency, even in its early kind

580
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: of iterations back in the nineties and early two thousands,

581
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 3: half the owners didn't have cash on hand right alone,

582
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 3: so even the cap space. So like Jerry and Eddie

583
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: de Bartelow, you know the Packers when they signed Reggie White,

584
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: like there would be the occasional here and there, but

585
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: up until the last ten years, if the Bengals want,

586
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: they could break someone off. So I look at the Raiders.

587
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: His part of the reason JaMarcus Russell didn't play for

588
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: like the first four games his rookie season is because

589
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: Al didn't have the money to give him a signing bonus.

590
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: That is not nineteen eighty seven, that's like two thousand

591
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: and seven, Collin. So in a twenty year spent you

592
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: got the Raiders, Hey Center, sixty million guaranteed. I'm sure

593
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: with bonus is like thirty or forty million dollars. No

594
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: problem here you go. They just got rid of Geno Smith,

595
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: so they're taking a hit. They just gave him a

596
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 3: ton of money. So you have teams that didn't have

597
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 3: money now that have money, and then you have teams

598
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: like I also think it is difficult for some of

599
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: these gms, like John Schneider. They say he has a

600
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: bunch of money. He's probably looking around going like I

601
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: have a hard time paying premiums for non premium players

602
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: because ultimately, in free agency, you are paying a premium

603
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: on top of the rate. So if a guy is

604
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: a normally for you, if you if you were giving

605
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: him extension after a couple of years on your team,

606
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: he costs let's say fifteen million dollars, That guy on

607
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: the open market becomes twenty four million dollars. So now

608
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: if you get it right, look a look at last

609
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: year with the Patriots. They signed Milton Williams and people like, god,

610
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: they gave him twenty five million dollars. We're fantastic, He's

611
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: never even played fifty percent of the snaps and then

612
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: a year later you feel good about it. But there

613
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: are a lot of Milton Williams types. I would imagine

614
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: linder Bomb will be the same thing. Did the Raiders overpay,

615
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: Of course they did. They've made the playoffs twice in

616
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: twenty three years. You think people just want to come

617
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: to play for them. Yeah, this guy's coming from the Ravens,

618
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, sometimes you have to overpay. You just better

619
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: overpay you don't even Milton Williams doesn't need to be

620
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: Reggie White or Aaron Donald. But if he is a

621
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: borderline pro bowler, full time starter for four years. You're going, yeah,

622
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: I overpaid a little who cares? So I think that's

623
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: what you got to be. That's why the Alex Pierce

624
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: Steele I thought Daniel Jones was going to derail them

625
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: and lose Alex Pearce, which would have been a problem.

626
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: So Chris Bower goes, yeah, I have to give him

627
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: a little bit more than I'm comfortable with. I know

628
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: this guy. I think he's a sending player, and we

629
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: feel comfortable already with him in the building, right. I

630
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: think they're way less comfortable with the Daniel Jones situation,

631
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: and like, is this gonna work? He's coming off the

632
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: Achilles how much? Eventually we're going to have to give

633
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: him than they are giving Alex Pierce. Probably more money

634
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: than you would want. But the receivers I would have

635
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: a hard time. Colin Justin Jefferson, Jamar ch Ceedee Lamb

636
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: a guy that's a no doubt about it, hall of

637
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: fame talent, but that next tier of guy. I saw

638
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: it with the Niners, with with Brandon Ayuk. It's like

639
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: you have to give these guys just a large sum

640
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: of money and they are just not near the number

641
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: one tier. So as long as you feel Alex Pearce

642
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: can keep maintaining and being explosive player, you can live

643
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: with him. But if you get it wrong, given the

644
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: amount of money you're paying a wide receiver, it could

645
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Speaker 3: blow up in your face pretty quick.

646
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Speaker 2: Let me throw another Raider move. This is very under

647
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: the radar between Tyler Linnerbaum getting moving off Max Crosby,

648
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: number one pick Fernando Mendoza. This signing will not get

649
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: a lot of play. But the Raiders signed former Viking

650
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: receiver Jalen Naylor, who I actually think. I think he's

651
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 2: a really interesting, like number two or three receiver. Now

652
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: they have Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison in Minnesota, so

653
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: they're going to move off him. I thought Jalen Naylor

654
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: was a nice player. I don't have Do you have

655
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: the numbers in front of you of what he's done. Yeah's,

656
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: Patriots and Broncos were all interested in him.

657
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: He hasn't been the most productive player because, like you said,

658
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: he's played there, so he's got twenty eight and twenty

659
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: nine balls in the last two years. But so basically

660
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: in sixty one oh way, that's what JJ McCarthy this year,

661
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: So fifty seven catches, Colin. He has ten touchdowns the

662
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: last two years, so's he's I felt like that when

663
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: you watched the Vikings explosive plays. Here's the other thing,

664
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: average yards per catch. His rookie year, he only had

665
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: caught nine catches, but he averaged twenty yards to catch

666
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: last couple of years. Basically fifteen yards a catch. Explosive

667
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: speed guy. Right, So maybe he's not. He'll get more

668
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: targets right with the Raiders. But even if he gives

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Speaker 3: you forty five to fifty catches with Fernando, you give

670
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: him a deep threat. I'm with Brock Bauers genty.

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Speaker 4: How about this.

672
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Speaker 2: Sean Payton wanted him, Josh McDaniels in New England wanted him,

673
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: and Clint Kobiak for the Raiders got him. Those are

674
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: pretty smart offensive guys. They all liked him.

675
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Speaker 3: Ran a four or five at the combine. Feels like

676
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: he plays a lot faster than that. Yeah, yeah, no,

677
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Speaker 3: I would have guessed like a high four to three guy,

678
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Speaker 3: low four to four guy.

679
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Speaker 2: So no, I can he that could be you know,

680
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: there's gonna be free agent signings that we that don't

681
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: get any play to me. I gotta tell you, John

682
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: Spytech with the Raiders, this is the first time in

683
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: twenty years I've been excited about the Raiders.

684
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Speaker 4: And they have a boat load of picks.

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Speaker 3: If they if they nail that fourteenth pick and just

686
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Speaker 3: get you know, a future core, you know, their version

687
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: of Patrick Kelsey, they could really change the franchise.

688
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: They could literally get Fernando Mendoza. And the fourteenth pick

689
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: is interesting. They could move off that and get Omar Cooper,

690
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza's favorite receiver who's viewed as a late first

691
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: round receiver. They could move down and still get me.

692
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Speaker 2: How great would that be? You can tell? You can

693
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Speaker 2: tell right now the Raiders are trying to make and

694
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: this is what the Bears did and Ben Johnson. They're

695
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: trying to make Fernana Mendoza super comfortable, right. They want

696
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: that interior line to be good. They're going to draft

697
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Speaker 2: another receiver.

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Speaker 3: Boy.

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Speaker 4: I really like what the Raiders are doing.

700
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Speaker 3: Jesson. I think you could get I think you could

701
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: get Cooper. I talked to a lot of different coaches

702
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: and personnel people at the Talbot about him. He's an

703
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: interesting guy. You know, you could ask one guy like

704
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: I think he ends up in the late twenties. You

705
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: could ask another guy to think he's like the fiftieth pick.

706
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Speaker 3: If you were comfortable with doing that, I think you

707
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: could take him in the beginning of the second round

708
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Speaker 3: because you draft really high. To me, fourteenth pick. I

709
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: do think it's going to be harder this year to

710
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: trade with some of these picks because the draft is

711
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: viewed as not a lot of impact guys. Yeah, so

712
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Speaker 3: I I would try to get Cooper if that's who

713
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Speaker 3: I was going to take in the in the second

714
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Speaker 3: go round, then I would in the first round.

715
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Speaker 2: So, John, if you're a Bears fan, as they clean

716
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: up their defense, here some more good news. They played

717
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: the NFC South, which is a bit of a mess,

718
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: and the AFC East, So they're gonna get the Jets,

719
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: They're gonna get you know, Falcons, Saints, Carolina, Tampa. So

720
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Speaker 2: if you look at the Bear schedule, you look at

721
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: the Bears elevation free agency of defense, I'll stick with it.

722
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: It feels like a top five or six team going

723
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Speaker 2: into next year.

724
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I Seattle and the Rams are gonna

725
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: be really good. But I would say, the rest of

726
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: the rest of the NFCT A lot of question marks

727
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: with the Eagles that they were one of the top seeds,

728
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: a lot of question marks internally in that division. So

729
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 3: you know, the NFC South, I might like the Saints

730
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Speaker 3: they signed etn They got this young quarterback who they like,

731
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: Tampa's gonna go through kind of you know, Mike Evans

732
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 3: was kind of important for Baker Mayfield, So I mean

733
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: you removed by habits that kind of matters now that

734
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: part of the NFL. Who they draft last year, the

735
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: Ohio state wide receiver, Like, you gotta let guys go.

736
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 3: Usually guys don't stay forever. Forty nine ers. They signed

737
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: Mike Evans, but they're gonna have older players coming off injuries.

738
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Speaker 3: I think they're they're gonna be solid. But you saw

739
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: them and the Bears this year playing a game that

740
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: was like seventy five to seventy one of the games

741
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: of the year. So yeah, I'm very Their coach is

742
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 3: a star. It just comes down to, you know, if

743
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: Caleb can just make an incremental improvement, Like at this

744
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: point in time, they don't need him to take some

745
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: huge jump, right, they just need maybe a five percent

746
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: seven percent improvement on basic things. Hit a wheel route

747
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: instead of overthrowing it, because that's the difference of punting

748
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: and keeping a drive alive that maybe leads to a

749
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: field goal and instead of having to come back, we

750
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: have a six point lead in the fourth quarter instead

751
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: of down three. So yeah, I'm really really high on

752
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: the Bears. I'm with you, polls. He's being a GM's hard,

753
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: you know, and being a GM for a dysfunctional franchise

754
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: is really difficult. Being a GM when your coach isn't

755
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 3: good is very diff Being a GM when your owners

756
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: a little cheap can be difficult. Over the last course

757
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: of what eighteen ish months, especially once Ben's got there,

758
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: they have been. They feel very on the same page

759
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: and rowan in the right direction, which is kind of

760
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: the NFL, where whatever the Jets are, the Bears feel

761
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: somewhat on the opposite end of the spectrum, and that's

762
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: the Raiders used to kind of be by the Jets.

763
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: They feel like they're heading towards the other smart teams.

764
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: So things change. It's hiring the right people, giving them

765
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: the resources to do the right things. I watched the

766
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: press conference when Halflee and the GM was hired one thing.

767
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: Halfley said over and over. Steven Ross, he said, he

768
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: just kept looking at me in the eye, said, you

769
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: will not lose for lack of resources here. You will

770
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: not lose because of the jetBook. We might make the

771
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: wrong moves, you coach poorly or signed the wrong guy,

772
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Speaker 3: but you will not ever lose because ah, my owner

773
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: wouldn't give the signing bonus. And now more and more

774
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: of those owners. If you get the Howie Roseman or

775
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: Less Sneed or John Schneider in that role, you're basically

776
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: guaranteed to be a double digit win team every year, right,

777
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: if you got the right GM with an owner cut

778
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: in the checks.

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Speaker 2: My takeaway today is Malik Willis for the Dolphins. He

780
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: is a totally different player. He may be smaller than

781
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: ideal height, but he's an electric athlete with a really

782
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: good arm and wildly dynamic offscript. And as you said,

783
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: you can inject him into games. He's not even scheduled

784
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: to play. I think Malik. Some people are saying, oh,

785
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: it feels you know a little undersize got That's not

786
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: Malik Willis. He is not to a if he had

787
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: a comp I'd argue I don't even know what his

788
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: comp a bigger Kyler Murray where it was a beautiful ball.

789
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: Kyler's got a good arm, Kyler moves, but Moleik is

790
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: really engaged.

791
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Speaker 4: They loved him in Green Band.

792
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: Your point on Hathley who watched him, coached against him

793
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: for two years and the assistant.

794
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: GM now in Miami. I think that's the best.

795
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: Point today made in the last thirty five minutes. Is

796
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: guys that knew him went all in on Malik Willis

797
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: from Green Bay to Miami.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a comp to me, he's like at

799
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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen seventeen, big arm Dak Prescott because remember Dak

800
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: could move back then and Dak Dak could really move

801
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: remember and coming out of Mississippi State, So that to me,

802
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: it's some of the Malik Willis highlights on keepers watching,

803
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, this guy you forget because we

804
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: get so removed from the football season. To me, his accuracy, honestly,

805
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 3: there are some parallels to Dak Prescott. Never in a

806
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 3: million years I watch Dak Prescott in Missipi State because

807
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: remember Dan Mullen was there. They were really good. I

808
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 3: never thought he'd be a good NFL quarterback. Some guys improved.

809
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: That's the thing about the NFL, not everyone's just ready

810
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Speaker 3: to go. This is you know, in the NBA, you

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812
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: drafted really high, they're gonna be stars or high level guy.

813
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: In the NFL, how many times is like this fourth rounder,

814
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: the sixth rounder, All of a sudden, ten years later

815
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: it's Richard Truman or Jason Kelsey or George Kittle. It happened.

816
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: It happens with quarterbacks too, and now we're on this

817
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: quarterback renaissance of we have some high picks that resurrected

818
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: their career. But we have seen over the course of

819
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Speaker 3: the last more in my lifetime of these mid round picks,

820
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Speaker 3: from dak to Russell Wilson to Kirk Cousins go on

821
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Speaker 3: to make hundreds of millions of dollars in lead playoff

822
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Speaker 3: teams year after year. So to me, Malik Willis kind

823
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Speaker 3: of fits that high character. Smart. Now he's an accurate passer.

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Speaker 3: We know he can move. He's good. The other thing

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Speaker 3: is like, well, what kind offense he ran? I don't know,

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Speaker 3: he ran the Shanahan offense, you know, in hybrid version

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828
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Speaker 4: Oh we have Tacker.

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Speaker 2: Fans were all like, we're paying the wrong quarterback.

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