WEBVTT - Ep. 156: Dragging versus Quartering, Scent Control for Normal Folks, and more on Ask the Eagle with Janis Putelis

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<v Speaker 1>The Hunting Collective is presented by Element. I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up. Hey, everybody, welcome to episode one fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>Phil six. Damn it got that at one fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>on the Hunt Neglective. I'm Ben O'Brien and you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>the voice, the lovely velvet voice of Phil T engineer.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on over there? Not much? I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>got some more snow rolling in. Are you excited? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really? Yeah, I mean I'm gonna take up skiing

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<v Speaker 1>this year for sure. I've been saying that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should go together. Yeah, maybe we should hit

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<v Speaker 1>the slopes together. Is what they say, kids say, shred

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<v Speaker 1>some nar together. Yeah, I think that's what the kids say. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it. I mean, I've skied a few times

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, but never been very serious. But now

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<v Speaker 1>that I live basically right next to a ski resort,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, why the hell am I not doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Something to do in the wintertime besides ice fishing, which,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, is boring as hell. Um, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>to begin the show, here we got Janice pateel Us

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<v Speaker 1>asked The Eagle, one of our most popular shows that

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<v Speaker 1>we do when we bring on Janice the Eagle patel Us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we let you guys call in and ask him

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<v Speaker 1>and me questions. I had a bunch of good ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Um this time around, had a lot of fun, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of laughs, learned a lot of things. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to actually describe a gentleman's deer skinning set

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<v Speaker 1>up without ever meeting him, because he's from Pennsylvania and

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up near there and I know how it is,

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<v Speaker 1>so stay tuned for that. I always enjoy having Yanni

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<v Speaker 1>and we were actually back in the studio, which I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you made me quite happy to be around

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<v Speaker 1>other humans. It was great. It was great so to

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<v Speaker 1>to to begin this. Phil Joshua Butler wrote in he said,

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<v Speaker 1>pine tree, lavender and sarlock pit Are those your candle flavors?

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<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of people guessing your candle flavors?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they flavors or sense? Uh? Their sense I do

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<v Speaker 1>not eat the candles. Don't eat them. Don't eat the candles.

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<v Speaker 1>They do not taste as good as they smell. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, pine, yes, I love to fill my house

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<v Speaker 1>with that woody that woody pine smell. Lavender. No, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>I do love lavender. It's one of my favorite candles

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<v Speaker 1>when it's not the holiday season, you know. Um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great just just the classic relaxing scent. Um. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always This might be the lowest moment of the show ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And Sarlac pit. You know, I have not smelled a

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<v Speaker 1>Starlac pit. I can't imagine if they that they smell good. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>most most pits in general don't smell good. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what what a Starlac pit is? Uh? No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Star Wars thing. I thought, get them at I

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<v Speaker 1>has googled it. It's a Star Wars thing. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that Hans Solo like falls into. Well, Boba Fett

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<v Speaker 1>falls into it, and hold on spoilers for the Mandalorian.

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<v Speaker 1>Boba Fett gets out of the star Lack pit. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in the Mandalorian on Disney Plus. Right now, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. No one can die in the writer's world,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, them right back and to exist. I know

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<v Speaker 1>some more action figures. Uh, Starlac pit. I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was some kind of candle. So now

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<v Speaker 1>color me to two weeks in a row. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>made to look stupid. Maybe not maybe every week in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. I'm not real sure about that. Um, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on, I had really had no idea what that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh could have I should have known it was Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>This hunting podcast is no longer even remotely about hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>We're We're gone. It's gone, We're off the rails. I

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<v Speaker 1>apologize on Ben's behalf for including me not ye. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners are going along with it, which I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I like that they're doing that. Alright, Phil,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to move to a bit of breaking news

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe a controversy on this show. Yeah, yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a listener, Greg Morrise. You know Greg from the

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<v Speaker 1>Great American Outdoors Contest. He's the one that made you

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<v Speaker 1>laugh by prank calling on X and asking if you

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<v Speaker 1>could see where the deer are? That great? Also that

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<v Speaker 1>was great and also prank calling first Light. So that

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<v Speaker 1>got him a winning prize. Now, it took us a

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<v Speaker 1>long time to get him first like gear, admittedly, but

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<v Speaker 1>he finally got it and he wrote me an email

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<v Speaker 1>it says, thanks again so much for the gear. I

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<v Speaker 1>got it last week and I've been using it when

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<v Speaker 1>I can get out. I really appreciate you guys looking

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<v Speaker 1>me up. I can't do much, but here is my

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to you, Ben, and then this video. Hello Mr

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<v Speaker 1>O'Brien and first Light. I just want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very, very appreciative of all the gear that you

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<v Speaker 1>sent me for winning the Great American Outdoors at competition. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I was expecting, uh, just like a few things, but

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<v Speaker 1>you guys gave me so much freaking gear. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I used it the other day. It was awesome. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the middle of that rain snowstorm. My

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<v Speaker 1>old pants like by the time of it, my crime

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<v Speaker 1>would turn into pepecaca. So it was awesome. They kept

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<v Speaker 1>me warm. I was dry. Um didn't rock a Melvin

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<v Speaker 1>the whole day. Um. So just as a thank you, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>to return the favor um to Ben for doing that

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<v Speaker 1>for me as a proud member of the cult, our

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<v Speaker 1>dear leader, I just wanted to show you with my

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<v Speaker 1>super skills that I have. So you got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're good, marshal Uh, you got some good architects. And

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<v Speaker 1>then if you were to scroll down, look at that

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<v Speaker 1>Ben O'Brien writer an editor right there sandwiched in between

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<v Speaker 1>old mel Kuiper counting down the draft picks and Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Van Pelt running down the top ten. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>in good company. So it's Greg Morris in his house

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<v Speaker 1>thanking us, and then he shows us, as you heard

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<v Speaker 1>in the video, that he went into the people from

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland Wikipedia list and inserted my name under authors and journalists.

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<v Speaker 1>To say that I feel like a real celebrity right

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<v Speaker 1>now would be an understatement, Phil, I feel famous. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you? How's your reaction to me finally making it

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<v Speaker 1>after years and years of trying, finally making it on

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<v Speaker 1>the people of Maryland Wikipedia page. Well, I mean, at

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<v Speaker 1>first I thought you were completely unqualified, But then I

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<v Speaker 1>went to go look at the list, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>people on here I have never heard of. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I would or should have heard of them,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd say, you belong here, I belong here. I

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<v Speaker 1>belong here. Now, when we first got this video, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go to the people of Maryland page. I just

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<v Speaker 1>assumed that I would be on there forever. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know much about Wikipedia, not an expert. I just assumed

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<v Speaker 1>that because Greg Morris felt compelled and other THHC folks

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<v Speaker 1>felt compelled to put me on there, that I would

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<v Speaker 1>stay on there forever. I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what could be a better vote of confidence for Wikipedia

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<v Speaker 1>than that. But Phil, they removed me, didn't they? They

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<v Speaker 1>took me off? You're gone? What the hell? Man? Now

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<v Speaker 1>we have a controversy. Now what do we have to do?

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<v Speaker 1>What does the THHD cult have to do to get

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<v Speaker 1>me on there permanently? Do you know the rules of Wikipedia?

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<v Speaker 1>Because now I'm determined to be on there. Besides folks

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<v Speaker 1>like Pat Brown, Mark Davis, Mary Anne Gibbons, who are

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<v Speaker 1>these people I deserve to be there? Bronze A Parks

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<v Speaker 1>who apparently was a boat builder. Yeah I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>have never built in the boat, but I've built a

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<v Speaker 1>cult and that deserves to be on the Wikipedia page.

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<v Speaker 1>I have hunted, I have killed, I have eaten. I

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<v Speaker 1>have done all the things that you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>to be on a list of people from Maryland killed

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<v Speaker 1>in Wikipedia page. I don't know what else I have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I'm thirty five years old. I deserve to

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<v Speaker 1>be recognized for all my feats. And Greg Morris tried

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<v Speaker 1>to do it and he got denied by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the liberal media or Trump or hypocrites and silicon

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<v Speaker 1>Valley something like that. It's probably Paul the Sheer. He

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<v Speaker 1>probably went in there. And it goes all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the top. It goes all the way to the top.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I need THHD to react to this with

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<v Speaker 1>the full force of your might and get me on

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<v Speaker 1>for permanently the list of people from Maryland Wikipedia page.

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<v Speaker 1>We must firebomb this page. All right, we won't bemoan

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<v Speaker 1>this any longer. But let me just say before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the eagle, we get some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to do. If you love me as much as I

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<v Speaker 1>think you do, what like, what what do we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do? Phil If we just keep putting it in

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<v Speaker 1>there for the rest of the time until they just

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<v Speaker 1>get tired of removing it. You think it's a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>battle of just just how long can we force hold

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<v Speaker 1>out to force better? Or is that do we write

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<v Speaker 1>a letter to Wikipedia? You know, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the force method will work because I think

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<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia they have like algorithms to pick that stuff out.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if someone who's kind is like repeatedly adding something

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't want to be there, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>just makes them more angry. Well, can we apply to listen?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a solution. Man, Well, what if we

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<v Speaker 1>put something different behind the comma of my name that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it seem more important? Philanthropist? That's right? Every year

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<v Speaker 1>a couple to maybe three at least. There you go, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just cult leader, would that be? I mean that's enough, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you had to put some stuff in front

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Author, writer, editor, you know, journalist, hunter, cult leader,

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<v Speaker 1>like at the end, that's kind of like the period

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<v Speaker 1>of the sentence. We'll see. I think that's I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should lead with cult leader. I think that'll I

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<v Speaker 1>think that might bring you to the top. Next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I get a Netflix documentary exactly. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, now, I'll just play the jingle, Phil,

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<v Speaker 1>not so sharp moment. You don't have not so sharp moments,

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<v Speaker 1>George Barlow wrote in George Big Fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>George wrote a poem? This is Is this the first

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<v Speaker 1>not so sharp poem Phil that we've ever had? There's

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<v Speaker 1>been so many poems now, I don't remember what category

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<v Speaker 1>they fall into, but it might be I'm gonna write

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking poem Wikipedia, cult leader and poet Ben ben

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<v Speaker 1>Over Yeah, Poe editor, Okay, George Barlow. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>few days past Christmas and the ground was a glow

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<v Speaker 1>with two inches of powdery snow. It was a great

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<v Speaker 1>day for boarding and the decision was tough. But instead

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<v Speaker 1>of a snowboard, I grabbed my hunting stuff. I picked

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<v Speaker 1>up my shotgun and was met at the door by Beasley,

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<v Speaker 1>my faithful chocolate labrador. I knew the police Hills would

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<v Speaker 1>be covered in snow, and I just knew where the

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<v Speaker 1>pheasants were likely to go. I had to meet my brother.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't be laid out the door. I checked them

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<v Speaker 1>your tree. It almost hit eight frigidly cold, but still

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<v Speaker 1>well worth going. It was a blue sky day now

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<v Speaker 1>as the snow had stopped snowing. After a harrowing drive,

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<v Speaker 1>we reached our destination. The dog bounded out and eating

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<v Speaker 1>no invitation. At the first hawthorn thicket, he put up

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<v Speaker 1>some birds. My brother shot the first and second, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got the third. Then we hit the creek, which

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't too wide. With a good solid leap, I could

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<v Speaker 1>reach the other side. I unloaded my gun, checked it

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<v Speaker 1>once and then twice. With the action still open, I

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<v Speaker 1>leapt over water and ice. I landed across but continued

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Before I knew it, I was lying face

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<v Speaker 1>first in the snow. When I stood up, I found out,

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<v Speaker 1>to my dissatisfaction, a great deal of snow had filled

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<v Speaker 1>up my action. I used my finger to clear what

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<v Speaker 1>I could, but there was snow up the barrel, and

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't good. Luckily, the snow was so light and

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<v Speaker 1>fluffy it would surely come out with a little huffy puffy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was. That was stretching it there, Yeah, that was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was some Some clear and concise editing would help this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just blow it out with some air from my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just blow it out with some air from my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just blow down the barrel. And that's when things

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<v Speaker 1>headed south. I realized that this might not be my

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<v Speaker 1>moment of glory, as I had flashbacks of Ralphie, a

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<v Speaker 1>flagpole and a Christmas story. My brain said, don't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but the message was sent. It was traveling down my neurons.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't repent. My lips hit the barrel, felt pain

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<v Speaker 1>and went numb, and I thought to myself, oh damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel dumb. With my lips firmly frozen to the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the Barrel. I couldn't shout or swear or

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<v Speaker 1>sing Christmas carols. I knew then and there what couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be done. I threw open my mouth and left some

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<v Speaker 1>lips on the gun. I'm not proud of that day

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<v Speaker 1>or the events that took place, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I removed part of my lips from my face. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I am wiser because I'm getting old advice to

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<v Speaker 1>you youngsters. Don't lick metal. That's cold play. The jingle

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<v Speaker 1>Phil sharp not so sharp poement, so you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to me amazing, amazing Phil An, amazing, amazing master poet.

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<v Speaker 1>George Barlow. Yeah, I thought that was gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>a dark place when he said he knew what had

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<v Speaker 1>to be done, and I was like, no, don't, don't,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. But luckily I'm glad that he he

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<v Speaker 1>helped himself. Um, I'm still laughing at Huffy Puffy. It's incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>incredible writing there, George Barlow, Well done, sir, well done.

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<v Speaker 1>That matches my little diddio on the Mediator podcast Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Special last year and maybe even gets gets past it

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit. So thank you, George, and for this

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful feet of poetry in the outdoor variety. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>Work Sharp. Please keep sending in your not so sharp moments.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to do a contest in two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>from work Sharp. It's something that will sharpen a knife

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<v Speaker 1>for you. We're going to Phil and I are going

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<v Speaker 1>to rank and then vote on the best not so

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<v Speaker 1>sharp moments of the year a couple of weeks here

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<v Speaker 1>in our last show of twenty so stick around for

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<v Speaker 1>that and also why you're at it. Head on over

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<v Speaker 1>to the worksharp YouTube page for weekly sharpening tips, including

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<v Speaker 1>yours truly from a couple of weeks ago. Uh, keep

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<v Speaker 1>keep them sharp for the holiday season with our friends

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<v Speaker 1>at Work Sharp. That that man, that's a late entry field,

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<v Speaker 1>but that might make it into the top not so

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<v Speaker 1>our moments of the year. Do you feel it has

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. Oh yeah, it's got a it's got a shot,

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<v Speaker 1>got a real shot. It's got a shot to take

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<v Speaker 1>the prize. Um So, George, if you're listening, get ready, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>you might you might be receiving some presents from your

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<v Speaker 1>boys th C. So we won't keep this much longer.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep it short today because we have the

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<v Speaker 1>great and powerful honest But tell us asked the eagle,

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<v Speaker 1>all of your calls coming right at you. Enjoy the honest,

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<v Speaker 1>but tell us, it's good to see you man. What's up? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen you in so long, other than on

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<v Speaker 1>the zoom or like actually on the YouTube's. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>we just did one of these, but happen. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>like a month maybe more way more. It was in October,

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<v Speaker 1>that's December, yeah, because we were talking about how bad

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<v Speaker 1>you're September hunts where archery season was, yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>October we got a little bit better, and then November

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<v Speaker 1>non existent. It just didn't happen. Mostly because of COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, because of COVID. I got a day and

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<v Speaker 1>a half in the breaks, saw hundred deer in two days,

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<v Speaker 1>not a mature buck amongst them, and then got the COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. I haven't been out since. I still

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<v Speaker 1>have the lung damage is still pretty pretty still feeling it,

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<v Speaker 1>still feeling it. I took my little son out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We were building a fort out by the river. It was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just as a cool thing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>a little fire in there or whatever. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>times we've been there so easy, it's easy to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>But last time we went, I was like I had

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<v Speaker 1>to we got home, I had to lay down to rest.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like an old old man dad. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't want to be a COVID alarmist or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that, but um, you know, man, it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to get people's stories out there because somehow, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there's plenty of people who I I personally believe

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<v Speaker 1>are being quite selfish with the way that they're treating

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<v Speaker 1>the whole situation because they're kind of only how it

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<v Speaker 1>affects them and not. Uh. I don't know, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>just look at it is like a like a patriotic thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm if we all just got a chip in we

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<v Speaker 1>are done, like you know, World War two, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we rosid riveter my. I feel like, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>people that make it a civil liberties thing, I get you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all civil liberties. I'm all for civil liberties. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also drive on the right side of the road,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I pay for the whole road, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wear my seatbelt, and I go the speed limit. To

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<v Speaker 1>bring up that, uh, that argument with the speed limit,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, you follow the speed limit, don't you,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's someone asking you to do that. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they can ticket you for it, but really,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the speed limit. The speed limit is to keep

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<v Speaker 1>everyone safe and to say, like, we all agree that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a reasonable speed to go to keep everyone safe.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other rule we have is don't be inebriated

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<v Speaker 1>when you're doing there when they're driving, that's a rule.

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<v Speaker 1>All those are public safety measures, that's all they are.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we've just politicized this, this particular public

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<v Speaker 1>safety measure that's not hard at all to do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not so easy. Um, philosophically, I get the argument, but

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<v Speaker 1>just from a tangible, daily life thing, how much it helps.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a doctor, but if it helps a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's worth it, I think. So I saw who

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<v Speaker 1>went through it. I mean I definitely didn't get it

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<v Speaker 1>at a rave or anything. I got it in the

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri Breaks hunting with one other dude, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>my my, my example is not not great in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, just in general, everybody's talking about it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it affects all our lives. And after I got COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>I started thinking, like what can I do for other

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<v Speaker 1>people to make sure that they don't have to experience

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<v Speaker 1>this because it was It wasn't just not fun, it

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<v Speaker 1>was awful. Yeah, you got it bad. Yeah I got

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<v Speaker 1>like even the physical and mental issues that I've had,

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<v Speaker 1>because I got really confused a lot after it. UM

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<v Speaker 1>had ringing in my ears and things like that. Still

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<v Speaker 1>do UM, But just what I saw my family have

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<v Speaker 1>to go through, you just on the back end because

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<v Speaker 1>they all got it too. So dude, I just got

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<v Speaker 1>a email from my father in law who has an

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<v Speaker 1>acquaintance fifty seven years old, not even sixty, and she

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<v Speaker 1>and her husband got it. She passed away. He made

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<v Speaker 1>it barely. It's like this code is like a tornado.

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<v Speaker 1>It just like goes into your town and like rex

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<v Speaker 1>one house and pulls the shingles off another house, and

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<v Speaker 1>rex the next house down the street, and like and

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<v Speaker 1>then then how how we figure that out? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>had been doing I had been taken zinc ightamin d,

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<v Speaker 1>a huge dose of viightamin d as big as I

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<v Speaker 1>could take, and a big dose of ighthum and see

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<v Speaker 1>for like six or seven months to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>I got COVID. So he's just doing that just to

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<v Speaker 1>be preventative, just to be I never take I hate

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<v Speaker 1>taking pills altogether, but I did for this because I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like it was I needed to boost my immune

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<v Speaker 1>system and say it's healthy. I could didn't help you,

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<v Speaker 1>note then help me none. Oh. In fact, now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like vitamin D. We get vaccinated when it shows up,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. But I'm in the immunity thing, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think just for again, think about other people. I would, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's just say if there's plenty for everybody, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're fine. Oh yeah, I mean whatever. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that. I want to get one too as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I can. But dude, I certainly would understand if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody said, I'm a little nervous about it, but like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something to be nervous about, Like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>something just to go well, yeah, I heard today that

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<v Speaker 1>they had a couple of folks that have allergies that

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<v Speaker 1>got their shot yesterday in Great Britain. They had some

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<v Speaker 1>some bad. Uh. Vaccinations aren't like, aren't a thing that

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<v Speaker 1>fixes it for everyone? It's it's yet another measure to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take a step forward and how we fight it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, hopefully get to hurt immunity. Get that. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get that hurt immunity. Well, you know, screw you COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>We're moving on, I asked the eagle. We're it's been

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a little while and you've been out there

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<v Speaker 1>ripping it up in the woods and I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 1>like what the successful what what's happened? Any Well, my

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<v Speaker 1>November had late November, late October through November. I did

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of skonkers. I did. I'll be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you, like full bad haunts. You didn't, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no. I um, I had great haunts. Enjoyed myself immensely.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're gonna be like a YouTube commentator, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't even bother watching it because they didn't shoot nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna be disappointed. But hopefully you know the

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<v Speaker 1>people involved and just watching them do their thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even call them like we didn't really struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>It just like didn't quite come together, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>happens a lot hunting tag I had man I passed

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know thirty or forty bulls on your

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<v Speaker 1>first week. Yeah, you were there for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I went for four days thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be that hard dialed in. I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>an elk what in four days? Weather or just you

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<v Speaker 1>just weather pressure. You know when I was leaving, when

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<v Speaker 1>I came and stopped in camp there for that one

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<v Speaker 1>little morning I was leaving, there was a dude checking

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<v Speaker 1>in like a three eighty bowl right in town there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was looking for. They were there around

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I keep telling everybody I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a tag like that again for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to give it my all to possibly

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<v Speaker 1>come home, and I wasn't. I would have shot a

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<v Speaker 1>much less than a three eighty, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even in those last four days, my goal was just

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot a bigger one than I've ever had before,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just yeah, I didn't know about that area

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of trophy class. But after I saw I

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<v Speaker 1>saw two two bulls and two backs of trucks, that

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<v Speaker 1>was like whoa Yanni was? He was dialed in the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing and plus and you just make a bet, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just made a bet and I'm gonna stick

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<v Speaker 1>into this. This is what I want. Nothing wrong with that,

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<v Speaker 1>not wrong with that at all. What else? Uh? November,

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I was in Wisconsin, got to White to hunt my

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<v Speaker 1>dad in the super Fun He got a shot, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. I got very close. I drew back

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<v Speaker 1>on a couple of bucks, but just didn't come together

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Um. And then oh, I did go to

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado and I got to hunt that season in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>which number one, you don't get to do often. But

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<v Speaker 1>this was even better because they their season structure just

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<v Speaker 1>changed and so fourth season was roughly a week later

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<v Speaker 1>than it's been for decades, I mean decades. So like

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody that got to hunt four season this past year

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<v Speaker 1>and the next whatever four years, I guess until the

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<v Speaker 1>season structure changes again, it's gonna be hunting later than

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>they ever have. You know, third season is gonna be

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>like what fourth season was. So it was really cool

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<v Speaker 1>just to be able to like really witness full on

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<v Speaker 1>mule deer migration and mule deer rut. I was gonna say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>where was the rut? Do you feel like it was

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 1>on the later on? Again, I had a lot of

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>warm tempts this fall and we had them down there

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<v Speaker 1>in southern Colorado too, and during when it was cool,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was cloudy, if it was early, if it

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>was late, it was on. But it just got warm

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<v Speaker 1>enough every day that it just put them to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they would just be bettered down. And

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<v Speaker 1>even then you get a buck, stand up and go

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>push a door around here here there. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, had it been instead of like hitting close

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty every day, if it had only gotten like

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>right at forty every day, I think we just would

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>have had deer on their feet all day long. Am

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I one and a half pre COVID mule deer hunting days.

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 1>There was deer everywhere, but it was fifty degrees and

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I just thought, give me a cold snap, and it's on.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>And then I got COVID. Never got to go back.

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>They had the cold snap, and I had more people

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 1>send me bucks they shot in that area than I

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>would even thought I would know people that even would

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>go there. So I'm I'm there in my COVID lockdown,

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>going new I just want to I can hunt alone.

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Nobody would get coded from me if I never saw

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a person. Um, So yeah, frustrating, but I'm glad you

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>got that done. That was a nice buck, dandy man,

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 1>especially for her last day buck. Hell yeah, and again

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I had made a bet and i'd let like a

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>buck that was very close to that buck passed the

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>day before. And uh, let me just say this, there's

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>a bravery, and there's a certain courage and bravery that

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>comes with film and a hunt no wing. You need,

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you need an ultimately something for people

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to see some excitement, but still holding out anyway. So

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that's that's courageous, I would say, because there's there's a

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit of stupidity involved. When I was just a writer,

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>back when I was working for magazines, there was the

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>photo buck. What's this idea that if you got sent

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 1>on an assignment story on a on a trip, that

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you needed to kill something to pay off the story

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>good right in the magazine. So there's photobuck or photo

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>bowl in any case, Like, if you saw something that

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>was representative and you could kill it, you kind of

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 1>had to. And I felt like that always changed the game.

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>You know. Oh no, for sure, man ful film and

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff is it makes it, It adds in, it complicates it.

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I should say, well, we got some some asked the Eagle.

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>We got a lot of Asked the Eagle emails, So

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 1>thank you for everybody that that follows Janice on social media,

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>and I think we got over emails from from folks,

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good stuff. That means, asked the Eagle,

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>has plenty of material to continue in the future. So

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>if we don't call you in the next hour, if

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you're out there and we haven't called you yet, we

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>might we might be coming for you to get ready.

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.479
<v Speaker 1>But we have four excellent questions and callers and we're

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna try to as we do. And they asked the Eagle,

0:27:55.560 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>reverse engineer the call in show where we call the

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>callers instead of them calling us. So let's try the

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>first one here. Hello this tray, Hey Tray, Beno, Brian

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>jannistel Us. How's it going? Man? Hey, what's up? Guys?

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 1>So you're in Ohio? Right, is that right? Yes, sir,

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I am in Ohio and you have a particular issue.

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I like this quiet, I like what you wrote it,

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I like what you emailed in because I feel like

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of a lot we can do with

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>this um. But say hi to you, honest the Eagle

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>patel Us what's up, Tray? Hey Johnny, how's it going? Man?

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 1>What's what's your question? Trey has been said. I'm in Ohio.

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Um I in two douan a teen. Just a little

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>brief background two domon eighteen moved from Ohio to Colorado

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>to live and work, um and just get involved in

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>that lift style. Back in Ohio. Now, UM, I have

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.479
<v Speaker 1>a job offer again to go to Colorado. How long

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>did you make it in Colorado the first stint? Not

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>two years? Huh? And then what just a better job

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>brought you back to Ohio. Yeah, I'm a geologist, wanted

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>to work in remediation, got the opportunity, Uh, jumped on it.

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>So yeah back in Ohio. No. Um so yeah, I

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>guess it's more of a request for advice than a

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>formal question. But um, you know, I'm wondering whether it's

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it's worth the trade to uproot my life again. Um,

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, move out west, that trade being low across

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the living in the Midwest has versus somewhere like Colorado. Um,

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you know for the hunting opportunities and lifestyle that the

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>West provides. This is a deep one like this one. Yeah,

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>it's tough because I did it and I love it.

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>But Denver, Man, Denver is a tough Like if you

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>said you got a spot up in the mountains, I'd

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>be like, go for it. But Denver. Did you you

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>lived in Denver when you when you were there? Yes, sir,

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the tough part. I was in Golden And the

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>cost of living it's just it's just there. If you'd

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>like to, like the breweries and there's like Mount Evans

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>is right, there's a lot of good stuff right in there,

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>but just the amount of people, a lot of people.

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know how big of a town you

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>live in in Ohio, but man Denver is like a

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>big place, a lot of traffic. Not for me. Yeah

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you should. Where in Ohio are you? Um, don't have

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to guess your address, but like where are you and

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>what's it like there? So I live outside of Columbus

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>right now. Um, but I grew up on a farm

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in southern Ohio. So you know we have a big

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>five acre farm that I can hunt on there. Um.

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>You know I live close to the airport here. You

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of things I'm tossing around in my head,

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>um about you know, if I do have that lower

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>cost of living here, it's a lot easier. I have

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot more resources to put towards hunting. Are you

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>well off enough? I imagine you are as a geologist

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>that yeah, that's like being a picture in the major leagues.

0:30:55.280 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that that that you can afford like an

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>annual or maybe even a bi annual trip out west

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to uh enjoy some hunting. Yes, they're actually in fact,

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Um I got to do a decent hunt this past year. Um,

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>so it's something I'm you know, hoping bi annual. Yeah.

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean even those of us that live here. It's

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>like Ben Well, Ben had COVID issues this year, so

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't. I didn't get as much honey as he

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to. We obviously, because of our jobs, we get

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>to hunt more than the average. But I bet the

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>average guy that lives in Montana he still only hunts

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.719
<v Speaker 1>out here a solid fourteen days, you know. I mean,

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.479
<v Speaker 1>sure he maybe get some more weekends thrown in whatever.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>But like, if you can pull off like a solid

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>archery helk hunt in September and then maybe whatever, come

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>out for a ski vacation or come out to do

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>some beaver trap and whatever, flo it's your boat. Um,

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>it just depends on how much you need of it

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>every year, you know, because the two weeks of Western

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Rocky Mountain fun and my dad, that might be all

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you need. Pretty good. I do. I do like that,

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And I've always had that in my own head too.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>That's why I like this question maybe so much because

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's helping me out too, because you can have, like

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>you could have a nice little cabin out here. You

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>save up, you know, get a little cabin middle of

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>nowhere with some national you on an acre with some

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>national forest nearby. Have that been a little homestead or

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>just get a camper whatever, um, and spend like the

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>time in the West where when you need to be here,

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, middle of September and early November or whatever,

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>when when you're not chasing white tails. And I'll go

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>back to the Denver thing again. It's like when you're

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're living like I lived up in Eagle County

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>when I lived in Colorado, and there it was literally

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>out my back door. So when you have the free time,

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>be like, ma'am, you're in it. You know you're loving it.

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>But Denver, I mean, sure there's foothills and this, that

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and the other, but it's just not the same experience

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>for me personally. Um, you know, you haven't put in

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>an hour maybe two three to get into the mountains

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and get away from people. Um. Yeah, my brother lives

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>in Westerville. Is that near you? That's that's ten minutes away. Wow,

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know him. Um, but yeah, it's a cool

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>like he Yeah, he enjoys living there. And there's big Bucks,

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, bos, big old Bucks. Yeah. Man, right, and

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that's not Tonock, Ohio. And the hunting

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in the East coast, you know, it's it's something I

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>would do even if I lived in the west. Um.

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>But I like the idea of a camper. That's something

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't really thought about. You know, that's a good idea.

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And like, like you said, Denver is just that's crazy.

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>And even the hunting is is crazy. You know, there's

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>tons of people out when you go, so they are

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I think CPW is working on that. We hunted there

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>in a unit that had been very, very crowded years past.

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>And then uh they they made the archery licenses. Um,

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I just went away from being over the counter to

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a to a limited amount. It was still a lot

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>of licenses but they basically made people choose, like where

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna hunt? You know, here, hunt there? And

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that really really helped, Like we didn't see a tenth

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 1>of the pressure that we had seen years passed. So

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the CPWS working on, you know, spreading out

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>that hunting pressure that people have been complaining about there

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>for the last few years. But I don't know, man,

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 1>I hope that helps. That's my take on it. I mean,

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not a bad choice if you had to pick

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>one or the other. Denver's got some good It's got

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>some redeeming qualities. Red Rocks is cool, you know, lots

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of Golden has a cool little downtown. I've been hung

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>out there a little bit, but only as a tourist.

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I've never tried to like, uh, get around the commute

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.919
<v Speaker 1>times place like that. So yeah, I'd had to choose

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Denver just because I have family there if I was

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>really pressed. But if I didn't have family, but I

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>think I'd go with the you're married but no kids, right,

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you said, yes, they are married, no kids. That played

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>a part in moving back from Denver two. You know,

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:10.919
<v Speaker 1>I want to be close to our family. I'm having

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>kids here, hopefully within the next year or two. Yeah,

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, well, you know, don't be in

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a rush, take your time. But yeah, I also I

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like if you're in Denver and you were a

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 1>single man, you'd be you'd have the prospects, but being married,

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to start a family. Small town life ain't

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>bad for that. So um, well, hopefully we helped you

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>at least. Uh. I wish we had a camper sponsor

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>because we might have sold a camper. But beyond that,

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>any other anything we missed here, anything we can do better? No, man,

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>nothing you missed. Uh. You know, I really appreciate the time.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's a sort of an impossible question,

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>but I really appreciate the advice. Now it's a it's

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a fun one to end. Either way you'll be you'll

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>still be hunting, so there's no uh no downside there. Yeah,

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>email us when you have a decision so we can

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>follow up. Let everybody which way you decided to go. Please,

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I will thank you guys so much. I appreciate it.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, Trey, thanks for averything. Man, talk soon, but

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Take care all right, Well, we may have

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>changed the life, Johnnie, do you feel kind of like

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Oprah is right now. Oh man, I'm not familiar with

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Oprah enough to know if I'm feeling Opra is you

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>don't you gave something to somebody? Yeah, I hope, I

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>hope that it, you know, helped his decision making a

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Have you been watching the back Ford you have?

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:34.959
<v Speaker 1>You got it? You've been busy. Have you watched it? Yeah? Yeah?

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you see the episode where we replayed your sprits

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>NG reaction? No? You replayed that? Yeah? Episode three? They

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>were we had Tony Peterson on with Mark Kenyon and

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.760
<v Speaker 1>they were talking about how they were white tailed nerds

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and like they were relating to each other via oh

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you're a nerhenomin nerd is great? And Mark brought up

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that you know, you and Steve don't really understand the

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>white tail nerd um like those two gentlemen do. And

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>then we've replayed you last I think I understand it

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 1>very well, partaking it, And so we replayed the bit

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>about you laughing hysterically. When I think hysterically, it's a

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>good that's a good description. No, that was a very

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 1>genuine laugh. When I saw him spray the camera down,

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 1>he touched the camera, So what happened was you guys

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>were checking cameras while you're scorel hunting, and so he

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>touched the camera and then removed. How did he even

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>have a sent away spray? Did he have it like

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>in his vest? No? But you know what, I'm gonna

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 1>send him an f HF bear spray hole, sir. So

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 1>it's always on his belt. He always has it? Yeah,

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't. I never thought about where did

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>he keep it he's out hunting. Did he have a

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>little I think he had a backpack and he had

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>back cards and whatever else? Whatever else? He has flash cards?

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh U No, No, it's camera cards. Its camera cards.

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe hed like big Buck flash cards. Uh

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>so you laughed, Steve laughed, We all laughed. Everybody laughed. Um.

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.959
<v Speaker 1>And now we've got a couple of emails from people

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that saw that. We have three different emails from people

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>who saw that. And I wanted to know what was

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>going on. So we're gonna call joan named Mark. Let's

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>see what he had to say. We've kind of already

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>addressed this question, but we're gonna we're gonna dive deep

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:32.399
<v Speaker 1>into it here with Mark Hey, Mark, Mark, ben O, Brian,

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>You hospitelis how's it going? What's up? Mark? Good? I

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>got doing? Just living the dream man? What are you doing? Man?

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Just excited to be talking to y'all? Really all right, Well,

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>we we're here answering questions and Yanti's changing lives um

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 1>as always as always is getting it in. Um. We know. Yeah,

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>we already kind of broached the topic of the Back forty.

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:56.879
<v Speaker 1>So just assuming that you've been watching the old Back

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 1>forty yes, I have been for sure, okay, And you

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>saw a scene there where Yanni was laughing at Mark,

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>uh so yeah, take it from there, all right? Um so,

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and I think it was episode three of the Back

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>forty Uh, Yanni and Mark and Steve we're out hunting

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>squirrels and scouting out the land and Mark decided to

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>take it upon himself to use that time to grab

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>some trail cam cards. Um. And while he was buttoning

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>up one of the cameras, uh, he went in head

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:38.879
<v Speaker 1>and sprayed the camera down with scent cover, to which

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Yanni's reaction, which is classic um um responding to to

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>that to that scene. Now, I think I don't know

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Mark as well as y'all do. Obviously he probably has

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 1>some O C D tendencies, um from what from what

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>we can tell, but this obviously, this, this obviously broaches

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a subject that in my mind where um Janice, you

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>certainly viewed that as a line and a visible line

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>that was crossed and that mark maybe over did overplayed

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>his hand there, and so it made me start thinking like, Okay,

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>so maybe there is some thresholds that you can use

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>when you do you should or should not be using

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the scent cover. And what are those thresholds um for

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, practical and impractical uses. And yeah, that that

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>scene is just a lot of a lot of what

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.399
<v Speaker 1>you do and say. Makes me laugh at that one

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>when I first saw it made me about fall out

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>my chair when I watched it. So uh well, I

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>think more than anything, he just caught me off guard.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.959
<v Speaker 1>And it might even been the sound because it wasn't

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 1>like a sprit sound. It was like a like it

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>was air sold spray that that that he had in

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>there and caught me off guard, you know in that moment,

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, we're out there squirrel hunting

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>three dudes plus two camera operators. So we're throwing laying

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>down some megacent and we're all standing right next to

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 1>this camera and then to all of a sudden for

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>him to like go next level because he didn't want,

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I understand why he wants to do

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it right, He like doesn't want that camera to smell

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like a human. And Um, Mark and I we actually

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>did at Wired to Hunt podcast couple of days ago,

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:33.959
<v Speaker 1>and I was telling about how I had a dough

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>that I know didn't catch my wind because I was

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>so high in a tree. I was on a ridge

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was my wind was blowing, my scent was

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 1>blowing off this ridge. Yet when she got to the

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 1>base of that tree, she smelled something, and I think

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 1>it was my climbing stick, you know. So maybe I

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>should have taken, you know, mark slow approach there, and

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>when I put up that first climbing stick, you know,

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>spray it down and maybe it would have allowed her

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>to at least passed by instead of spooking and going

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>back the way that she came from, which may or

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 1>may not have affected my hunt later. Um, but look, man,

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm no, I'm no Joe whitetail. Mark is. So he's

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 1>got to answer the question about like the thresholds of

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, how far you can take it. And I think,

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll speak a little bit from Mark, because

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I've heard him say it a lot, you know, to him,

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.439
<v Speaker 1>if he does it all and it happens to help

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>just a tenth of a percent and it buys him

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>a half a second or a second in the moment,

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>he will do it, and he will gladly take it. Um.

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>And he also tells me which this is. This This

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of hits home more than anything else. He's like, look,

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the guys that I know there are successful every year

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 1>to kill him, mature bucks. All of them take their

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 1>scent control very seriously. So um, and you know, maybe

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>one day I'll get there. I hunted, you know, the

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>white tail rut this year for seven days, and uh

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>we bought some scent away spray. I think I quit

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 1>spraying it about day three, but I know we kept

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>our boots outside, all of our exterior hunting garments were

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>kept outside. H you know, I was trying to minimize.

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>But again, we're hunting always with two people, and I

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>just feel like I can spend more time thinking about

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.840
<v Speaker 1>my setup and to what the wind is going to

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>be doing, and just spend more time. I got a

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.719
<v Speaker 1>lot more to like dial in before I feel like

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the scent thing is going to really really help me. Yeah,

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>there's two things here. One I think this is if

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>you're a single species hunter like Mark seems to want

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to be, or is he is, you have time to

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>like dive into the minutia because that's all you think about.

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>But if you're like the rest of us who like

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to get out and hit a squirrel up every now

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and then, like like a nice waterfowl hunt, like the

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>hunt maybe a mule Martin don't even know there's another

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>deer in our country. They look the same they you know,

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 1>they they're from the same stock. Um. So there's that part,

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 1>like he has the time because that's always thinking about

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't have, Like your mind has to be awash

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>with other things when you're trying to move around and

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 1>do different have different pursuits. But also that's a rabbit hole, man.

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Once you once you allow yourself to obsess over every

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 1>minutia as a part of strategy to kill deer, you

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>can obsess over any little thing, and like you just said,

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 1>get yourself off track, get yourself thinking about sprits and

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>things and doing things that are helping a little and

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you're not thinking enough about the things that are helping

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot. And so I don't think Mark does that.

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 1>But I think if if if you're just a normal

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>hunter out there and you want to obsess over something,

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>there there's some pitfalls. Is this helping Mark? Is this

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 1>helping Mark? Yeah? No, that was great. I was just

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>really helps getting your thought process behind that scene what

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>was going on. But yeah, and they're getting the details. No,

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate that. Thank you. I'll cap it off

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>with this too. Making content and making entertainment. Uh, some

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>friction can oftentimes be good and uh and and it

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it goes a long way and uh, you know, people

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 1>love hearing Steve and I, uh, you know, get after

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>each other or whatever have you know, a little discuss,

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 1>a little discussions where we might not think the same way.

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>And um, because if if you don't do that, then

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>it just it ends up having a very monotone feel

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's just going agreeing with each other and it's

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 1>not much fun, right, And not not only friction, but

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've been in another episode, I was really

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of rooting for you to kind of get one

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>of the first deer out of the back forty and

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>just seeing your reaction to Mark and being excited for

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>him was really kind of a cool moment because I

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>know you wanted to get a deer as much as

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Mark did, but when he ended up getting it and

0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you're recognizing how much hard work you put into that

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 1>entire project, it was just really kind of a cool

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that, you know, an opposite from the friction side

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>of it, but really really speak to the community very well,

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 1>and I think what you are trying to promote, Yeah,

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean to the to the point where you know

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna rib each other, and I'm I certainly I

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:16.800
<v Speaker 1>am the one who ribs Mark Kenyan more than anyone

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>on the earth. I always say he's as a tall

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 1>man's body and a small man and a short man's face. Uh.

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>And he accepts. He doesn't get mad at me for said,

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.880
<v Speaker 1>do you take that, Johnnie. He's very He's like sneakily

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>tall when he walks into the room. Yeah, he's six

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>what two two or three? I mean, I guess I'm

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>just maybe short, but when he walks. When I first

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>saw him on YouTube, I thought, well, he must be

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a short guy. When he walked in the room, he

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 1>was six three, and I just think he has a

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 1>short look to him. His face looks short, like he

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>would be a short man. So I give him all

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>kinds of crap all the time, but he knows, And

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Yannie and Steve know that ultimately that you know, what

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>we're doing is supporting each other. You know, through you

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't let anybody but your friend or someone you know

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>loves you and support ship. You talk to you like that,

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 1>treat you like you know, So it's not that understanding

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that helps it go. Well, Mark, thank you for watching

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff and hanging out with us. Thanks for

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>asking questions. And this is one of my favorite scenes. Uh.

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And we did, I mean we wrote that episode. We

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 1>were trying to figure out what would make that episode good.

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>With that squirrel hunt. We wanted to try to play

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>out the fact that Mark just didn't understand why you

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:27.479
<v Speaker 1>would squirrel hunt in September. It was real, he didn't

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>want to. We had to force him to do it.

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 1>We had to force him to do it. So nothing

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>nothing prescribed about that. So thanks Mark, we appreciate it.

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Man and um have a good rest of you to

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 1>good holiday, all right, y'all too, Thank you guys, Mark,

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 1>But the fact for he's over. Man, it's it. I

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>know it's a little sad, huh A little bit? Yeah?

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it public? Is everybody already know what the plan is? Well,

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>what's this coming out? Yeah? Yeah, So by the time

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it comes up, people will know that we're donating the

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:58.399
<v Speaker 1>property to the National Deer Association formally the Quality Dear

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Management Association. That this is hard to get that had

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:06.879
<v Speaker 1>murdered Alliance now it was it was the National Deer Alliance.

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I see, I can't there's no way this National Disassociation.

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Because it was the Quality Dear Management Association and the

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:16.919
<v Speaker 1>National Deer Alliance, they merged to become the National Deer Association.

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>See if you can get that straight, I think I

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>just got it right. Um, we are donating that property,

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the sixty four acres and all the coutrement to the

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>q d M A slash n d A UM and

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>so we're real excited about it. There's a lot of

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 1>content we're gonna make their UM. And it was good, man,

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a good two years in back forty it's good.

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 1>It was good to kind of have a place where

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 1>we had to tell we were locked in. You know,

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>because the shows that you've done with Steve and that

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you're doing Mediator Hunts, you can go, you can travel

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 1>with different dynamics, you know, different people, different characters come

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 1>in with the back Ford. It was like, you have

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 1>this land and and whatever Mark can do with it,

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 1>and that was that was challenging, but in the end

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>it was cool to kind of track it all through

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years. Yeah, there's pros to it too, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely,

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what you got every time. Yeah, and the

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 1>plus you have history with everything and history that you've

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>all recorded throughout that time. And we ended up kind

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>of wanted to do it longer, but felt like there

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 1>are a whole lot of other cool things we could do.

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, so we're calling. We're calling Chats here. It's

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Chaz Captain Chase by the bye. Hell, Hey, is this

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Chats or Chase? How do you say? C H A S.

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I can never pronounce anybody's names. Yeah, see that, I

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 1>got it. Chatz, this has been and Brian and the

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.839
<v Speaker 1>honest tell us what's going on? Man? Hey, then what's

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>going on? You know what's going on? Thanks for having

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>me on. Yeah, no problem. We we just noticed that

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 1>this as captain in front of your name. What kind

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of captain with that? Oh, ca, Yeah, so I'm a

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.839
<v Speaker 1>former U U S. Marine Corps captain. I flew at

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 1>eight teams in the Marine Corps. I just got out

0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>of the air or Marines and I'm in the International

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 1>art now still as a captain. Now I apply of

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>sixteen And you had offered to in your email be

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the privately if we ever got like a media to

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>private jet, that you would be the pilot. Is that right?

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh man? Talk talk about dream opportunity, dream experience, dream job. Man. Yeah,

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>if that ever happens, I'm your guy. Please don't lose

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>my number. If anybody for the churning groups listening, so

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>hold on. Is that you're just general plan that after

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you're done doing all this service that you'll then just

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 1>beat you'll become a pilot in in the private space. Yeah,

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.839
<v Speaker 1>so in general, And what moost guys do is uh

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>when when they get out of active duty and active

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 1>service and they have uh um a required number of

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>hours built up flying the military aircraft, you'll then get

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:50.800
<v Speaker 1>out and be eligible or competitive to apply for major airlines.

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, all your all your major carriers for your

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>airlines or private pilots, what have you. Uh, So that's

0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:59.279
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing now. So in the National Guard, I

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>cannot be opera tue to be a part time military

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 1>pilot and still fly for the airline as well. Because

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>of what's going on now, I don't have you know

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:11.399
<v Speaker 1>that many places aren't accepting any applications at this time,

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>just do to do to you know, be obvious, Uh,

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, pandemic and so forth. So guys like me

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 1>are having a hard time getting those kinds of jobs.

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Luckily we have the military as a backup. But it's

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 1>just just scarce jobs in the pilot industry in general.

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Because does anybody ever say the hell with commercial and

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:33.439
<v Speaker 1>just move up to Alaska and run a bush plane

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 1>for a few years. You know, I don't know personally

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 1>anybody who's done that, but it's looking like it's looking

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>more and more appealing. Yeah. Yeah, as a guy that

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>flies around some super badass planes really really fast that

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 1>do amazing things. When you look when you know a guy,

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 1>or you look at the whole like bush pilot scene,

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>what's your take on that like, because because for a

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, like a bush pie, it's kind of

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>like very very cool to me? Is the ultimate bushpot

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>always does an F sixteen pilot also look at a

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 1>bush pilot someone cool or or what like what's your take,

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:14.399
<v Speaker 1>like a garbage truck driver? Like, yeah, a good question.

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I never really thought about it, like in detail, like, Hey,

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 1>what is the what is the ranking level or like

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 1>level of coolness that you are as a pilot. I

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 1>mean if I feel like if you're not, if you're

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 1>not a fighter pilot, a bush pilot's the next coolest

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:29.280
<v Speaker 1>thing on the list, or it might even be cooler.

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, but I don't know if anybody personal

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>who's done the job. Uh, the very few guys I've

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.439
<v Speaker 1>met who have done that stuff when we do, we've

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:39.879
<v Speaker 1>taken because we've taken the fighters up to Alaska. There's

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of range space up in Alaska Fairbanks that

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>we've used. So that's the only time I've ever been

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to Alaska is doing that stuff. But we we get

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 1>to hang out with those guys sometimes because they're they're

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 1>all over the place. Uh, and they're I mean they're

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:56.239
<v Speaker 1>your blue collar you know, um, your heroes of the sky.

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>So I mean they're very cool dudes. Yeah, I mean

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.239
<v Speaker 1>It's good to hear because I I've I've really have

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of heroes that are like mustachioed, flannel wearing

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 1>bush pilots, A lot of them, A lot of them

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like the guy, the guy who found Timothy Treadwell. I

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>can't remember his name. He's cool. Met him one time. UM,

0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 1>A lot a lot of skills, at least when I

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 1>when I when I look at it, you know, the

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 1>places we've been dropped off and picked up from. UM,

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm always very impressed with what they're doing with those

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 1>little planes. Oh yeah, I was in Northwest Territories one

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>time and the floatplane pilot was the you know, He's like,

0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, we go back and forth and we do this,

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:33.319
<v Speaker 1>We run this route, you know, three or four times

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a day, and we do that six six months out

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>of the year. I thought, the level the danger of

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that that person goes through in a daily basis is unbelievable,

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:44.240
<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure is the same for a fighter pilot

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 1>or were much worse. Those bush pilots are fearless. They

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 1>have to be. I feel like, yeah, is there a

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 1>level of fear and what you do? I my brother

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in law runs runs fighter jets but he seems like

0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a pretty just level headed dute. He never really talks

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.800
<v Speaker 1>about the feeling of getting up in the air like that,

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:04.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I'm sure everybody would tell you something

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 1>different how they talk about it. But I mean, if

0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:10.319
<v Speaker 1>you think about it, if you're every time you go up,

0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not just we're not just flying someplace, you know,

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 1>point A to point B. We're not just flying the airplane.

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 1>We're doing you know, mission sets, running systems in the airplane,

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 1>running weapons systems, And there's an objective every time you

0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:24.320
<v Speaker 1>go up. So maybe if you actually sat back and

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.399
<v Speaker 1>thought about the big picture of what you're actually doing,

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was scary a little bit more. But you're

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 1>always so busy doing something that maybe you don't have

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>time to be frightened by at all. But I mean, um, usually,

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're so well prepared to go out to

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:43.480
<v Speaker 1>do those things, and and and you prepare long before

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and your brief and and you think about it and

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you and your practice, so when you go do it,

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not really thinking about being scared. Maybe later you

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 1>look back and go, hell man, maybe I should have

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.320
<v Speaker 1>been scared here, but not in the moment. You know

0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>what I mean similar podcasting. Yeah, that was awesome, man,

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:01.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. We're calling him and tell us

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>all and uh, what's so it's open we can go

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 1>down rabbit holes here. No, we're gonna let We're gonna

0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 1>let the chas on to ask this question. Now. I

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 1>grew up in Maryland, not too far from Pennsylvania. Where

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 1>in Pennsylvania are you, Jess? I'm from from near Pittsburgh,

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.360
<v Speaker 1>so a little town called Late Trobe. You guys might

0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:27.240
<v Speaker 1>know it for rolling rock beer and Arnold Palmer Palmer

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the beverage or the guy are both? Uh, the Arnold

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Palmer the guy. Okay, I'm glad I now know how

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to pronounce that Trobe Trope. I've driven through there a

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:40.800
<v Speaker 1>few times, but never it never been How did you

0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>say chats? You didn't say La Trobe. You said La Trobe.

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:48.399
<v Speaker 1>So people who and I get this almost every time,

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.719
<v Speaker 1>people who are from there typically say la Trobe. If

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you're not from there, you say Latrobe. So I don't

0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 1>know if it's correct one way or the other, but

0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that's if someone's from there, they say at one, yeah,

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you pick up your oh's the way that that folks

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.200
<v Speaker 1>from where I come from do Ohs you know, Orio

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Natty bo. That's that's how we that's the that's the

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 1>uh the classic East Coaster all man. Yep, yep. Someone

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 1>call it a Pittsburgh accent. Yep. It's like it's Baltimore, Pittsburgh.

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like that region. Coincidentally, I bought a thirty rack

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:26.359
<v Speaker 1>of the rolling Rocks for our most recent uh elk

0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:31.719
<v Speaker 1>hunting trip out to eastern Montana, and uh yeah, well

0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 1>they weren't big hit. Two different people cracked one and

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 1>it must have been a long time since they had

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a rolling rock, and they went, is this stuff okay?

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I mean, I'm like, yeah, you mean

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the skunkiness, Like it's supposed to have like a little

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:48.680
<v Speaker 1>bit of like not quite Heineken, but it's got like

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a little micro skunk to it, and uh yeah, it's

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.839
<v Speaker 1>it's anyways, more than half that gate rack is still

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 1>at my house, Jaz, have you ever coming to Montana,

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:02.319
<v Speaker 1>It'll probably still be there. Oh no, no, no, I'll

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.279
<v Speaker 1>make sure finds a home. All Right, we gotta get

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to the actual questions here. We digress, but that's podcasting.

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Um you had a good question, Chazz Fireaway okay, so, um,

0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 1>so I've Pennsylvania whitetail hunting. My dad and I we

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 1>have a camp in northern Pennsylvania that we go up

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to and we we go down to the same spot

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 1>almost every year. We walk from the road down into

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the woods maybe like a mile uh down to sit

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>near near a river, the Clarion River to be specific.

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's not it's not that far in. It takes

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>us about an hour walk down, fully loaded with all

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:44.919
<v Speaker 1>our stuff. The terrain is not terrible, but it's it's um,

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's not an easy, super easy walk in.

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not like what you guys do up in the

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 1>mountains and everything else. I mean, you can't even compare it.

0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>But every time we shoot a deer, uh we we

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:00.280
<v Speaker 1>we got it out and we dragged the hang out

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and it takes us, you know, almost the whole afternoon

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to do so, especially because my my dad's you know,

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:09.480
<v Speaker 1>seventy two years old. So I do all of that stuff.

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 1>So when we both shoot one, which happened this past year,

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I do all of that, which which I'm happy to do.

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>But uh, I've never skinned and quartered the animal in

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the woods to try and pack it. Out. I'm wondering

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 1>should I just be doing that and make my job

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>slightly easier carried on my back rather than try and

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 1>drag it through the woods. So if you were me,

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 1>would you skin it, quarter it, pack it out or

0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:40.120
<v Speaker 1>would you drag it and take and then hang it

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:43.520
<v Speaker 1>back at your hunting camp to drain and everything before

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:45.439
<v Speaker 1>you skin it and cord it? What do you think?

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 1>This is my childhood? So but I'm gonna let I'm

0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:53.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna let u Yanni take take the first crack. Um. Yes,

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you should get and you should start skinning and corning.

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, listen, I think is a place for

0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>dragging beer. And if it's mostly downhill or flat and

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it's not far, but what Chase just described it sounds

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's uphill a mile approximately. Man. Back in the

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:19.920
<v Speaker 1>day Nebraska, you couldn't actually quote room. You had to

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 1>check them in a hole. And so I a couple

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:26.080
<v Speaker 1>of times had drags that had to go up and

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 1>down a ridge and then back up to the road

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And the same thing. You're just like,

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you can't train for that. I mean, it's just like

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the workout of all workouts. You just gotta strip down

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:42.439
<v Speaker 1>to your the bass layer, have like special gloves because

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be like, you know, holding that rack and

0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:47.439
<v Speaker 1>a hundred different positions by the time it's all over.

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:50.480
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't have like your rope system exactly

0:59:50.560 --> 0:59:53.800
<v Speaker 1>dialed in, like, man, it is just so much work.

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:56.840
<v Speaker 1>And the way I look at it, too, is that like,

0:59:57.880 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 1>as long as you're gonna keep it on the bone,

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're really sacrificing too much by doing

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it in the field then waiting, you know, lend it

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:07.480
<v Speaker 1>hanging for two or three four days, and then skinning

1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and then a quartering. Sure you're gonna get a little

1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:12.400
<v Speaker 1>bit of dry crusted on the outside that you're gonna

1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, cut off and lose that meat. But I

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:18.840
<v Speaker 1>look at it like you're you're you're gonna have to

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 1>do that work at some point anyways, Like you got

1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.920
<v Speaker 1>your deer, get it done, you know, and if you

1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 1>do it right and take your time, you do it

1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:31.360
<v Speaker 1>nice and clean. U'm sure you gotta pack some game bags, um,

1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:33.720
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, heck, a white tailed deer can fit

1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:37.919
<v Speaker 1>in just about a single game bag, um, maybe two,

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:42.960
<v Speaker 1>so you're not really packing that much extra with you um, so, yeah,

1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm a hun percent with you, and I'd like to

1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:49.919
<v Speaker 1>just add to the counterpoint before ben um goes here,

1:00:50.360 --> 1:00:53.760
<v Speaker 1>that Spencer new Hearth, one of our local white tail

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<v Speaker 1>experts here, a meat eater. He I told him he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to give the white tails a break, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's killed like four or five with shure box

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<v Speaker 1>this year. I'm like, don't you want to broaden your

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<v Speaker 1>horizon a little bit? You know? Yeah, he did a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice one, probably drug it to the truck. He

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<v Speaker 1>probably did. Yeah, he had it. But he had a

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<v Speaker 1>post recently where he killed one somewhere and he decided

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<v Speaker 1>to quarter and pack it out on his back. And

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the post says something along the lines of

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<v Speaker 1>I'm paraphrasing, but like, I will be doing this a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more. I can't believe I haven't been doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's the way to go. And I see a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched a lot of deer hunting YouTube videos this

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<v Speaker 1>summer in preparation because I was gonna go hunt white

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<v Speaker 1>tails very seriously for the first time in a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>so just to get fired up and see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>see tips and tricks. And I saw a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>videos where guys were in one mile maybe two miles,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're leaving the deer to go get a cart

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<v Speaker 1>or go get like a bunch of dudes to help

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<v Speaker 1>him drag this deer. M man. If I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have had that thing quartered into the truck

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<v Speaker 1>before your first got there to help you. Like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the point? Well, you know, listen, I agree. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with jazz. You can give me some tradition bullshit. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what, here's here's and I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people in Pennsylvania, Maryland where I came from, you go

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<v Speaker 1>through this this progression when I was, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a youngster. Yeah, just just to stick with me here.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was a young man, we started hunting. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe the progression was we were in the beginning. We

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<v Speaker 1>would drag the deer out by its antlers. One guy

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<v Speaker 1>takes one side, one guy takes the other side. You

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<v Speaker 1>generally would want to grab it down towards the base

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<v Speaker 1>between the brow sign and where the main beam goes.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you do if it was a doll by

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<v Speaker 1>the legs, Then you grab by the legs. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>little harder the legs front legs, each um and so

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<v Speaker 1>you start that way, and we had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>instances where we literally dragged the deer so far all

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<v Speaker 1>the hair was gone on once. Have you ever had

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<v Speaker 1>that chats where you dragged it so far that all

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<v Speaker 1>the hair was gone on one side? Yeah, yeah, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>we've all been there except for Johnny. Well, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>where I grew up, it was I guess we're always

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<v Speaker 1>just hunting oaks, and it just seems like you're always

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<v Speaker 1>dragging them through six inches of oak leaves and those

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<v Speaker 1>things slide very well. Yeah, we would be dragging deer

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<v Speaker 1>through creeks, up and down hills, over ridges, through you know,

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<v Speaker 1>through meadows. It's just the longer you do it, the

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<v Speaker 1>more you're just gonna end up with like just hide

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<v Speaker 1>on one side, and that's not great. You don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>great about what you've done to the meat or the

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<v Speaker 1>deer when you're hanging up and one side is mangled

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you don't you don't feel like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we started, because I'm gonna get to the

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<v Speaker 1>end goal of the traditional part here. But and then

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<v Speaker 1>we progressed to the drag rope and and Chads will

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<v Speaker 1>probably know this too, that there's a rope that has

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<v Speaker 1>an orange harness on it, right, I haven't a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>You put the harness over your shoulders and then tie

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<v Speaker 1>that too, so you can either have one dude with

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<v Speaker 1>eat one loop each on a shoulder, or one guy

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<v Speaker 1>with two loops on his shoulders. And then he dragged

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<v Speaker 1>the deer out that a way. It's much easier. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's a bit more of a compatible physical

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<v Speaker 1>movement because you're not just dragging something. You're just running

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<v Speaker 1>forward and the things behind you. And then you get

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<v Speaker 1>to a log and you're like, son of a bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>you're any kind of impediment. So that we went to

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<v Speaker 1>that next, and then we got smart and we got

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<v Speaker 1>a cart. Now you mentioned the going we would when

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<v Speaker 1>we hunted, like deep in public land for white tails.

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<v Speaker 1>We would take the cart in with us, put all

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<v Speaker 1>our gear and packs on the cart, drag the cart

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<v Speaker 1>in across a creek with the cart stashed the cart,

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<v Speaker 1>put some leaves, and should have whatever ever go up

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<v Speaker 1>to our hunting spot, and then have a three yard

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<v Speaker 1>walked down to get the cart. One the deer was dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and that revolutionized getting the deer out of the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is you know, late nineties, early too thousands

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionized the O'Brien family getting the deer out of the

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<v Speaker 1>woods system. And so I think we stayed with the

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<v Speaker 1>cart for a long time. But again, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>walking on a trail, a cart's not fun either. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you got to get wheels up over a long instead

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<v Speaker 1>of just flopping a deer over there. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, the deer looks nice, pristine if

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, lashed to a cart instead of drink

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<v Speaker 1>through through the timber. So that's where we got and

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<v Speaker 1>then eventually, um, we never I don't think growing up

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<v Speaker 1>we ever quartered a deer out that I can remember.

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<v Speaker 1>We always got it to the truck and we had

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<v Speaker 1>skinning parties in the garage in my house, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was like the thing that I remember the most, hanging

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<v Speaker 1>that deer up by the game rules and skinning it

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<v Speaker 1>out and drinking beer when I was old enough. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's having a deer drinking natty bow. Stro's natty bows?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the bow and natty bohemian? Is that right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about that last episode, but is

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<v Speaker 1>it natural bohemian? Yeah, that's what it is national bohemian,

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<v Speaker 1>national bohemian. I can't believe if there's a beer out there,

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<v Speaker 1>never natural. Yeah, I think it's natural bohemian bohemian. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of it. I've never heard of it. N

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get it, we gotta do, we'll do. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to uns out of you need to be East

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<v Speaker 1>coast to get it, I guess. So, yeah, that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a boot like that to Montana, which I've done.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a caggy yongling at my wedding. You did

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina. They were getting off topic of game.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, hanging up a deer and the gambles in

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<v Speaker 1>the garage with a tarp and a bunch of buckets

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<v Speaker 1>for people to sit on and one guy skinning and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody talking ship and being like a party is so

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<v Speaker 1>different than just described like my experience, my entire hunting

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<v Speaker 1>experience that I just did like two weeks ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>can send you pictures of this exact thing, please do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's buckets. You don't sit on chairs, You sit

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<v Speaker 1>on buckets. Why because that's what's in the garage tar

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<v Speaker 1>the garage blue tart was the tart blue? How well?

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<v Speaker 1>How how far after you see, I didn't even never

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<v Speaker 1>never met Chats in my life. I know everything about

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<v Speaker 1>what he does over there. Yeah, I think tarp soldier

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<v Speaker 1>blue guys. There's green tarps and gray one. Hey, but

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<v Speaker 1>how far when you guys have a skinning party, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the end result with the meat? Like, how far do

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<v Speaker 1>you take the process? Oh, you go down, you go

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<v Speaker 1>down to just the bones man, and you can also

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<v Speaker 1>take you're pretty much butchering and wrapping your meat at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. Yeah, but basically so you don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>guys could just just sw just pivot just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and kind of skip the skinning part on the

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<v Speaker 1>gambrel and just have your table there and and slap

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<v Speaker 1>down four quarters and start chopping. I'm gonna let Chazz

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<v Speaker 1>answer this too, But I think it's like gathering around

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<v Speaker 1>a fire. Right that deer hanging is like something to

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<v Speaker 1>gather around. It would be like a pile of meat

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<v Speaker 1>no longer has that. It would be like lighting flour

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<v Speaker 1>candles or having one big camp fire, And I just

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<v Speaker 1>like to gather around the campfire. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Chazz I would agree. I would agree, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 1>coming from a from a hunting camp with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of guys up there, who after the first day you

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<v Speaker 1>can stand around, you know, admire, admire your your day's work,

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<v Speaker 1>and drink some beers and hang out with the boys

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's kind of a that's an experience in

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<v Speaker 1>itself which is enjoyable and you kind of I guess

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<v Speaker 1>youn't have that if you're just like, hey man, check

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<v Speaker 1>out my cooler full of deer. But true, that's true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I have a micarage now at butchering table.

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<v Speaker 1>Say it's an experience, Yeah, it really is. You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>From a practical standpoint, You're right. Yeah, You're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to weigh how much you want to have that

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<v Speaker 1>experience of that buck hanging there and everybody hanging around

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<v Speaker 1>and admiring it. Because I will say, like a great

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<v Speaker 1>memory of mine and a thing we still do every

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<v Speaker 1>year in Wisconsin. The years that we do, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kill some deer, but there's a meat pole and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a great picture when you look back on it

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh my god, remember seventeen we killed

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<v Speaker 1>four bucks and eight does over the weekend, Like that

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<v Speaker 1>was great. And there's the whole group of people standing

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<v Speaker 1>in front of it. Everybody that attended that you know

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<v Speaker 1>that year. Um. So yeah, there's there's something beautiful about

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<v Speaker 1>a buck on a meat pole, um, or just a deer,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hanging off a meat pole. But you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to decide. You have to weigh do do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go through that pain of dragging it uphill

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<v Speaker 1>mile to get that uh, five or ten minutes hanging

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<v Speaker 1>around ampiring it. Yeah, my house, we would be my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>We would take I feel like we would often take

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<v Speaker 1>the backstraps off first and they would go in and

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<v Speaker 1>be like frying them up in the kitchen while the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the work was done. And by the time

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<v Speaker 1>you were done, you had a nice like a little snack,

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<v Speaker 1>a little thing. So I just have such fond I

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<v Speaker 1>remember like hunting as a kid was more about that

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<v Speaker 1>skinning party than it was about the It was a

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<v Speaker 1>hunt itself. So hopefully it helps Jazz. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to be practical, uh and pragmatic, then

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<v Speaker 1>you go with Yanni. And if you want to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you be emotional and then and traditional and you go

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<v Speaker 1>with with me. Does that that help? I'm at least

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<v Speaker 1>trying to Janni's way once because making making multiple trips

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<v Speaker 1>to to go get all to take off all your

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<v Speaker 1>heavy clothes, to come back down to drag a deer out,

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<v Speaker 1>another trip down to get another deer. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. I think I'm gonna try it the honest way.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh and if it's if it's not sentimental enough

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I'll go back to it. But I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>least gonna try it. So thanks very much, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the input. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna change my ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Send me a picture of a bunch of Jews on buckets,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting sitting around a single quarter hanging from the raption.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it works. We never know best both worlds all right,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Jazz, appreciate it, man, Thanks for the college has

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<v Speaker 1>good guys, thanks for having me on much appreciate it. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how's a good one. I like that one, Yannie. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that we learned we all learned something about

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Yeah, for sure, for sure. So I I yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even have the opportunity to pack it the

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<v Speaker 1>yar out like that anymore, which is kind of sad

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I was such a dragger when I came

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<v Speaker 1>to Colorado and my first fall ever up at pat

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<v Speaker 1>Country Outfitters up there and yump him. Um My buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy had shown up, who was a previous guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't got anymore, but he showed up. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>cow tag Muzzleloto cow tag. So you know, I only

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<v Speaker 1>showed up there in August. I was very new to

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<v Speaker 1>this place and these people. And uh he shoots a cow,

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<v Speaker 1>guts that leaves it up on the hill, comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of like have dinner, put the clients to

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<v Speaker 1>to the bed, and we gotta go get this cow.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh he of course he and along with everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else is thinking, well, we'll just run up there with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, frame packs and we'll quarter it out and

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<v Speaker 1>walk down off the hill. I'm like, hold on, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just right up on this hill behind camp. Get you

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<v Speaker 1>know what we do in Michigan this tie a rope

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<v Speaker 1>to it. And because what we would do with the

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<v Speaker 1>dough is actually take the front legs and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>make like and put them together with the head and neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you don't do that, you got the heads

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<v Speaker 1>kind of flopping everywhere and getting caught on everything, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'd make a little bundle and I'm like, Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 1>how big is this cow? Was not a great big cow?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Yeah, no problem, let's go dude. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that was just a full on exercise and it

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<v Speaker 1>was downhill the whole way, but aspen logs everywhere. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it would get going too fast down the aspen leaves

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<v Speaker 1>and take people out. We had a hell of a time.

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<v Speaker 1>We laughed a lot, and who did a lot. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that was the first and last

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<v Speaker 1>elk drug off of a mountain out of that camp. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know, even in my own in my

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<v Speaker 1>life now is I'm trying to you just moved to Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to set up like how when I kill something?

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<v Speaker 1>What do I do? Right? I got a big butchering

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<v Speaker 1>table in my garage, stainless steel and all the things

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<v Speaker 1>I'll the there. And man, did I miss the gambrels

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<v Speaker 1>this last couple of times I brought home quartered animals.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed it. So this fall, I'm gonna get some gambles,

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<v Speaker 1>like a three pole like TP looking gamble system and

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<v Speaker 1>put it on the concrete path in the side of

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<v Speaker 1>my house so in case and I'm and I really

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<v Speaker 1>around Montana. Wherever else I go, I want to find

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<v Speaker 1>places where I can't get the whole animal out. So

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<v Speaker 1>just that's called private ranch hunting ball. Oh yeah, is

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<v Speaker 1>that right? Oh yeah? Because all you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is go down to Yellowstone Game Processing, which is right

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<v Speaker 1>there at the exit when you're going to my house. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh hang out there for an hour or two.

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<v Speaker 1>And they received lots of whole elk really like guys

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<v Speaker 1>are wenching them into trucks. Ye oh yeah, really that

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<v Speaker 1>seems insane. The only time this has ever happened to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually the first elk I ever killed. I

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<v Speaker 1>think was over here. It's like a decade ago or

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years ago by Lake Ennis. Was on a hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Shot a bull right by Lake Ennis, right and just

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<v Speaker 1>right before the public land there in a private ranch,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were literally hiking up. It was my dream

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<v Speaker 1>to hike up into the Madison Range and go hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I'd never been to Montana before, is my dream

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<v Speaker 1>to go hunt in the Madison Range. We didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>make it to the mountains. We were in some damn

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<v Speaker 1>agg field overlooking the lake and here stands a bull

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<v Speaker 1>just by himself. With a bunch of cattle, and whenever

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<v Speaker 1>there shot him, dude drives out. He's got a flat

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<v Speaker 1>a flat top pick up and like he gives flat bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Flat bed, yeah, flat bed, and he just gets his

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<v Speaker 1>wench out and and drags this thing over there, puts

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<v Speaker 1>it in his flat bed, and awfull we go. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, that wasn't what I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for experience wise. I'm glad I got this elk, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is what I would have done. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we hung it up in some big pole barn and

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<v Speaker 1>they skinned it, and then it was just it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the elk. Contin I was looking prototypical, your

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<v Speaker 1>real picky. You want that for white tail deer, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want that for elk. You're right, see, And

1:14:56.040 --> 1:14:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I like it going back to Ohio versus Denver. You know,

1:14:58.360 --> 1:14:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of Ohio, a little bit of

1:14:59.760 --> 1:15:03.040
<v Speaker 1>den in there, a little bit of Colorado, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of Ohio. All right, man, well, I like asked

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<v Speaker 1>the eagle. I feel like we're just gonna keep were done. Yeah,

1:15:11.880 --> 1:15:16.519
<v Speaker 1>we're done. We've hit the we've hit that time. Kids,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to go. Yeah. That was fun. Those were

1:15:19.560 --> 1:15:22.360
<v Speaker 1>good questions those were and I really do like asked

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagle. I think people out there like it. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got another hundred emails to draw from. So if if

1:15:27.720 --> 1:15:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you didn't get it this time, if you didn't see

1:15:31.160 --> 1:15:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yanni's social post, then emails your question t h D

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<v Speaker 1>at the media dot com and label it asked the Eagle,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get it in the rotation for what it's

1:15:41.080 --> 1:15:43.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a monthly affair here at the Hunty Collected

1:15:43.240 --> 1:15:44.960
<v Speaker 1>because I have fun doing it. Remember, there are no

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<v Speaker 1>stupid questions, but there are good ones and bad ones,

1:15:48.200 --> 1:15:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and entertaining ones and boring ones. So uh, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to make it on here, think it through a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, as we say, with not to sharp moments,

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<v Speaker 1>not too long but not too short, just the right

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<v Speaker 1>length and the right intention. You know what I was

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<v Speaker 1>told in a h email the other day, Steve Janice

1:16:10.800 --> 1:16:14.080
<v Speaker 1>remy at all, So he's addressing you as well, Ben

1:16:14.240 --> 1:16:18.680
<v Speaker 1>sure his first sentences as gentleman that don't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>value brevity and then spoken and written word. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you will bear with me and endure the length of

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<v Speaker 1>my email. That is a great way to kick off

1:16:29.680 --> 1:16:32.439
<v Speaker 1>an email because he's kind of he's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>punching in the face, but at the same time giving

1:16:34.880 --> 1:16:38.479
<v Speaker 1>you a hug, which is how we treat each other. Yeah,

1:16:38.560 --> 1:16:41.639
<v Speaker 1>and so like obviously you're gonna read his email. Yeah,

1:16:41.800 --> 1:16:43.439
<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, what's this guy got to say? That's

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<v Speaker 1>so damn important and we should have him all he was.

1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it just took him a while

1:16:50.400 --> 1:16:53.240
<v Speaker 1>to get through the Medeor podcast, but he had. He

1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:56.800
<v Speaker 1>had listened to the Meat Tree episodes. And I want

1:16:56.880 --> 1:16:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to write in about that. I won't get into that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I actually value brevity immensely when I write. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people that I take it to heart

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<v Speaker 1>to try to never use the word very because I

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<v Speaker 1>figured that there if you want to say very excited,

1:17:15.840 --> 1:17:18.400
<v Speaker 1>there is a word that means in the English language

1:17:18.439 --> 1:17:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that means very excited that you could use instead. But

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to producing television that we do, brevity

1:17:27.720 --> 1:17:31.040
<v Speaker 1>is key. It's like, if you have somebody that's long

1:17:31.120 --> 1:17:35.679
<v Speaker 1>winded and can't get a point out succinctly, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it tough to edit, man, and um, it just

1:17:39.040 --> 1:17:41.519
<v Speaker 1>gets boring, you know, and you kind of like you

1:17:41.640 --> 1:17:43.800
<v Speaker 1>have to realize that you don't always get everything that

1:17:43.920 --> 1:17:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you want, but it's more important, more valuable just to

1:17:47.080 --> 1:17:52.360
<v Speaker 1>have stuff clipping along, moving along and uh and yeah,

1:17:53.080 --> 1:17:55.720
<v Speaker 1>so anyways, being able to being able to say what

1:17:55.840 --> 1:17:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you mean in a podcast sense, we just like to

1:17:58.240 --> 1:18:00.439
<v Speaker 1>talk and that's what that's what this is. But be

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<v Speaker 1>in the written word, being able to say what you

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<v Speaker 1>mean without having to bemoan the fact being able to

1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:10.040
<v Speaker 1>clearly can slisely express your point is a skill and

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<v Speaker 1>the written word, but also in the TV show Hunting World,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're trying to explain something but you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of time to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got to get right through it and move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the next thing. And it's got it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything has to build on itself. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in this world. But yeah, keep him short, keep him concise.

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<v Speaker 1>You now you know what Yanni likes. Now you know

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<v Speaker 1>what he likes, and and he's and and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>stickler about who comes on and asked you might to

1:18:34.360 --> 1:18:36.800
<v Speaker 1>have a T shirt that just says brevity, But it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's all it says. That's just a brevity period. All right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're very very happy, very very very happy to have

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<v Speaker 1>you every time, Yannio. Thanks Ben. It's always a pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>to be on and appreciate all the folks right now

1:18:50.680 --> 1:18:52.360
<v Speaker 1>with their question. Yeah, this is one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>things we do and we're gonna keep doing it here

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<v Speaker 1>at the Hunting Collective. Say bye your honest Ah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all another episode in the books, one fifty six.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get the number right this time. Thank you to Janice,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to everybody that called in. Thanks for your service.

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<v Speaker 1>Captain chaz Uh. It was great to hear from everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>And to those folks that we did not get to, um,

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<v Speaker 1>including my good friend and I want to read you

1:19:29.760 --> 1:19:33.400
<v Speaker 1>an email from one of our We we did not

1:19:33.600 --> 1:19:36.560
<v Speaker 1>get to a gentleman named Tim King who had a

1:19:36.640 --> 1:19:40.160
<v Speaker 1>good story for us. Um. We didn't get to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So apologies to Tim King UM. And he emailed me, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't call me. What's up man? And I said, oh, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>we we just ran out of time. We had to

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<v Speaker 1>vacate the studio. And his reply was, that is really unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking forward to talking with you guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>even took some time off work and turned over a

1:19:59.120 --> 1:20:01.880
<v Speaker 1>customer with a knife sailed to a co worker. This

1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>is the closest I have come to meeting a hero,

1:20:04.720 --> 1:20:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and the old saying reigns true. I guess don't try

1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:10.240
<v Speaker 1>and meet him. You will end up disappointed. Thanks for

1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:12.840
<v Speaker 1>all the content during these trying times. Everyone appreciates it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ex Cult follower Tim k. So we lost a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>We we lost somebody. Phil, I replied to him, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and just said, Tim, I feel deeply responsible to make

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<v Speaker 1>this up to you, so in time I will until

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<v Speaker 1>then be your own hero. I'll keep thekool aid on

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<v Speaker 1>nice until you return. Best Ben O'Brien. So, Tim, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening, maybe you're not listening because we've we've upset

1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you so much. We apologize. We will make it up

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<v Speaker 1>to you on the next asked the Eagle segment, next

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<v Speaker 1>time around, and everyone else I wrote in the other

1:20:51.600 --> 1:20:53.599
<v Speaker 1>over a hundred people that wrote in with questions for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do as many asked the Eagle segments as

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<v Speaker 1>we can do. So we have those in the hopper.

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<v Speaker 1>So watch out for an email from me or a

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<v Speaker 1>phone call for me to set it up for next time.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for that. And next we have two

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<v Speaker 1>more shows, Phil, two more shows in and um the

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<v Speaker 1>first one is Clay Newcomb. We got Clay Knwcombe coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next week. Now Clay is gonna you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>if folks haven't heard since the last time he's been

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, he's joined Meat Eater. He's now a

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<v Speaker 1>meat eater, a person who works at meat either uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're very very very happy to have Clay. Clay's

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic human and so next year we're gonna have

1:21:34.080 --> 1:21:36.800
<v Speaker 1>him on into pretty regular cadence for a segment we

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<v Speaker 1>call Guard the Gate. Guard the Gate is a segment

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<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna hear and if you if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about that, go and listen to his first appearance

1:21:44.240 --> 1:21:45.880
<v Speaker 1>on the show and you'll learn all about that. But

1:21:46.000 --> 1:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be hearing a lot more from Clay, including

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<v Speaker 1>next week where we talk about faith in the outdoors

1:21:50.720 --> 1:21:56.240
<v Speaker 1>and depth. We're talking about guarding our pursuits from folks

1:21:56.280 --> 1:21:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that would love to take it away. So we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>here next week. Say by if Hill goodbye, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can't go a week without doing rung without

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<v Speaker 1>you and rung drinking out right drinking