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Speaker 1: grew up. Hey, everybody, welcome to episode one fifty seven,

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Speaker 1: Phil six. Damn it got that at one fifty six

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Speaker 1: on the Hunt Neglective. I'm Ben O'Brien and you've heard

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Speaker 1: the voice, the lovely velvet voice of Phil T engineer.

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Speaker 1: What's going on over there? Not much? I think we've

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Speaker 1: got some more snow rolling in. Are you excited? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Not really? Yeah, I mean I'm gonna take up skiing

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Speaker 1: this year for sure. I've been saying that as well.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should go together. Yeah, maybe we should hit

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Speaker 1: the slopes together. Is what they say, kids say, shred

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Speaker 1: some nar together. Yeah, I think that's what the kids say. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll do it. I mean, I've skied a few times

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Speaker 1: I feel like, why the hell am I not doing it?

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Speaker 1: Something to do in the wintertime besides ice fishing, which,

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Speaker 1: to begin the show, here we got Janice pateel Us

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Speaker 1: asked The Eagle, one of our most popular shows that

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Speaker 1: we do when we bring on Janice the Eagle patel Us,

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Speaker 1: Um this time around, had a lot of fun, a

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Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. I always enjoy having Yanni

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Speaker 1: will tell you made me quite happy to be around

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Speaker 1: other humans. It was great. It was great so to

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Speaker 1: to to begin this. Phil Joshua Butler wrote in he said,

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Speaker 1: pine tree, lavender and sarlock pit Are those your candle flavors?

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of people guessing your candle flavors?

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Speaker 1: Are they flavors or sense? Uh? Their sense I do

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Speaker 1: They do not taste as good as they smell. Um.

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Speaker 1: And Sarlac pit. You know, I have not smelled a

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Speaker 1: out of it. No one can die in the writer's world,

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Speaker 1: some more action figures. Uh, Starlac pit. I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Uh could have I should have known it was Star Wars.

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Speaker 1: This hunting podcast is no longer even remotely about hunting.

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Speaker 1: We're We're gone. It's gone, We're off the rails. I

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Speaker 1: apologize on Ben's behalf for including me not ye. No, no,

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Speaker 1: Great American Outdoors Contest. He's the one that made you

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Speaker 1: this was even better because they their season structure just

424
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: changed and so fourth season was roughly a week later

425
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: than it's been for decades, I mean decades. So like

426
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: everybody that got to hunt four season this past year

427
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: and the next whatever four years, I guess until the

428
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: season structure changes again, it's gonna be hunting later than

429
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: they ever have. You know, third season is gonna be

430
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: like what fourth season was. So it was really cool

431
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: just to be able to like really witness full on

432
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: mule deer migration and mule deer rut. I was gonna say, like,

433
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: where was the rut? Do you feel like it was

434
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: on the later on? Again, I had a lot of

435
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: warm tempts this fall and we had them down there

436
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: in southern Colorado too, and during when it was cool,

437
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: if it was cloudy, if it was early, if it

438
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: was late, it was on. But it just got warm

439
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: enough every day that it just put them to bed,

440
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, and they would just be bettered down. And

441
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: even then you get a buck, stand up and go

442
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: push a door around here here there. But I just

443
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: feel like, had it been instead of like hitting close

444
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: to sixty every day, if it had only gotten like

445
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: right at forty every day, I think we just would

446
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: have had deer on their feet all day long. Am

447
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: I one and a half pre COVID mule deer hunting days.

448
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: There was deer everywhere, but it was fifty degrees and

449
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: I just thought, give me a cold snap, and it's on.

450
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: And then I got COVID. Never got to go back.

451
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: They had the cold snap, and I had more people

452
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: send me bucks they shot in that area than I

453
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: would even thought I would know people that even would

454
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: go there. So I'm I'm there in my COVID lockdown,

455
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: going new I just want to I can hunt alone.

456
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: Nobody would get coded from me if I never saw

457
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: a person. Um, So yeah, frustrating, but I'm glad you

458
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: got that done. That was a nice buck, dandy man,

459
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: especially for her last day buck. Hell yeah, and again

460
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: I had made a bet and i'd let like a

461
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: buck that was very close to that buck passed the

462
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: day before. And uh, let me just say this, there's

463
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: a bravery, and there's a certain courage and bravery that

464
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: comes with film and a hunt no wing. You need,

465
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, and you need an ultimately something for people

466
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: to see some excitement, but still holding out anyway. So

467
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: that's that's courageous, I would say, because there's there's a

468
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: little bit of stupidity involved. When I was just a writer,

469
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: back when I was working for magazines, there was the

470
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: photo buck. What's this idea that if you got sent

471
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: on an assignment story on a on a trip, that

472
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: you needed to kill something to pay off the story

473
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: good right in the magazine. So there's photobuck or photo

474
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: bowl in any case, Like, if you saw something that

475
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: was representative and you could kill it, you kind of

476
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: had to. And I felt like that always changed the game.

477
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: You know. Oh no, for sure, man ful film and

478
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: stuff is it makes it, It adds in, it complicates it.

479
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: I should say, well, we got some some asked the Eagle.

480
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: We got a lot of Asked the Eagle emails, So

481
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: thank you for everybody that that follows Janice on social media,

482
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: and I think we got over emails from from folks,

483
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. That means, asked the Eagle,

484
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: has plenty of material to continue in the future. So

485
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: if we don't call you in the next hour, if

486
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: you're out there and we haven't called you yet, we

487
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: might we might be coming for you to get ready.

488
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: But we have four excellent questions and callers and we're

489
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: gonna try to as we do. And they asked the Eagle,

490
00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: reverse engineer the call in show where we call the

491
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: callers instead of them calling us. So let's try the

492
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: first one here. Hello this tray, Hey Tray, Beno, Brian

493
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: jannistel Us. How's it going? Man? Hey, what's up? Guys?

494
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: So you're in Ohio? Right, is that right? Yes, sir,

495
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: I am in Ohio and you have a particular issue.

496
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: I like this quiet, I like what you wrote it,

497
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: I like what you emailed in because I feel like

498
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot we can do with

499
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: this um. But say hi to you, honest the Eagle

500
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: patel Us what's up, Tray? Hey Johnny, how's it going? Man?

501
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: What's what's your question? Trey has been said. I'm in Ohio.

502
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: Um I in two douan a teen. Just a little

503
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: brief background two domon eighteen moved from Ohio to Colorado

504
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: to live and work, um and just get involved in

505
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: that lift style. Back in Ohio. Now, UM, I have

506
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 1: a job offer again to go to Colorado. How long

507
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: did you make it in Colorado the first stint? Not

508
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: two years? Huh? And then what just a better job

509
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: brought you back to Ohio. Yeah, I'm a geologist, wanted

510
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: to work in remediation, got the opportunity, Uh, jumped on it.

511
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: So yeah back in Ohio. No. Um so yeah, I

512
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: guess it's more of a request for advice than a

513
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: formal question. But um, you know, I'm wondering whether it's

514
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: it's worth the trade to uproot my life again. Um,

515
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, move out west, that trade being low across

516
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: the living in the Midwest has versus somewhere like Colorado. Um,

517
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: you know for the hunting opportunities and lifestyle that the

518
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: West provides. This is a deep one like this one. Yeah,

519
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: it's tough because I did it and I love it.

520
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: But Denver, Man, Denver is a tough Like if you

521
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: said you got a spot up in the mountains, I'd

522
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: be like, go for it. But Denver. Did you you

523
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: lived in Denver when you when you were there? Yes, sir,

524
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: that's the tough part. I was in Golden And the

525
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: cost of living it's just it's just there. If you'd

526
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: like to, like the breweries and there's like Mount Evans

527
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: is right, there's a lot of good stuff right in there,

528
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: but just the amount of people, a lot of people.

529
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how big of a town you

530
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: live in in Ohio, but man Denver is like a

531
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: big place, a lot of traffic. Not for me. Yeah

532
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: you should. Where in Ohio are you? Um, don't have

533
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: to guess your address, but like where are you and

534
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: what's it like there? So I live outside of Columbus

535
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: right now. Um, but I grew up on a farm

536
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: in southern Ohio. So you know we have a big

537
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: five acre farm that I can hunt on there. Um.

538
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: You know I live close to the airport here. You

539
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: know a lot of things I'm tossing around in my head,

540
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: um about you know, if I do have that lower

541
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: cost of living here, it's a lot easier. I have

542
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: a lot more resources to put towards hunting. Are you

543
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: well off enough? I imagine you are as a geologist

544
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: that yeah, that's like being a picture in the major leagues.

545
00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, that that that you can afford like an

546
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: annual or maybe even a bi annual trip out west

547
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: to uh enjoy some hunting. Yes, they're actually in fact,

548
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: Um I got to do a decent hunt this past year. Um,

549
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: so it's something I'm you know, hoping bi annual. Yeah.

550
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean even those of us that live here. It's

551
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: like Ben Well, Ben had COVID issues this year, so

552
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: he couldn't. I didn't get as much honey as he

553
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: wanted to. We obviously, because of our jobs, we get

554
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: to hunt more than the average. But I bet the

555
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: average guy that lives in Montana he still only hunts

556
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 1: out here a solid fourteen days, you know. I mean,

557
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: sure he maybe get some more weekends thrown in whatever.

558
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: But like, if you can pull off like a solid

559
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: archery helk hunt in September and then maybe whatever, come

560
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: out for a ski vacation or come out to do

561
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: some beaver trap and whatever, flo it's your boat. Um,

562
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: it just depends on how much you need of it

563
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: every year, you know, because the two weeks of Western

564
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain fun and my dad, that might be all

565
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: you need. Pretty good. I do. I do like that,

566
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: And I've always had that in my own head too.

567
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: That's why I like this question maybe so much because

568
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: it's helping me out too, because you can have, like

569
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: you could have a nice little cabin out here. You

570
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: save up, you know, get a little cabin middle of

571
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: nowhere with some national you on an acre with some

572
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: national forest nearby. Have that been a little homestead or

573
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: just get a camper whatever, um, and spend like the

574
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: time in the West where when you need to be here,

575
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, middle of September and early November or whatever,

576
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: when when you're not chasing white tails. And I'll go

577
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: back to the Denver thing again. It's like when you're

578
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: if you're living like I lived up in Eagle County

579
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: when I lived in Colorado, and there it was literally

580
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: out my back door. So when you have the free time,

581
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: be like, ma'am, you're in it. You know you're loving it.

582
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: But Denver, I mean, sure there's foothills and this, that

583
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: and the other, but it's just not the same experience

584
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: for me personally. Um, you know, you haven't put in

585
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: an hour maybe two three to get into the mountains

586
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: and get away from people. Um. Yeah, my brother lives

587
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: in Westerville. Is that near you? That's that's ten minutes away. Wow,

588
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: maybe you know him. Um, but yeah, it's a cool

589
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: like he Yeah, he enjoys living there. And there's big Bucks,

590
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, bos, big old Bucks. Yeah. Man, right, and

591
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's not Tonock, Ohio. And the hunting

592
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: in the East coast, you know, it's it's something I

593
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: would do even if I lived in the west. Um.

594
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: But I like the idea of a camper. That's something

595
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: I hadn't really thought about. You know, that's a good idea.

596
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: And like, like you said, Denver is just that's crazy.

597
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: And even the hunting is is crazy. You know, there's

598
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: tons of people out when you go, so they are

599
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: I think CPW is working on that. We hunted there

600
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: in a unit that had been very, very crowded years past.

601
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: And then uh they they made the archery licenses. Um,

602
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: I just went away from being over the counter to

603
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: a to a limited amount. It was still a lot

604
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: of licenses but they basically made people choose, like where

605
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: are you gonna hunt? You know, here, hunt there? And

606
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: that really really helped, Like we didn't see a tenth

607
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: of the pressure that we had seen years passed. So

608
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I think the CPWS working on, you know, spreading out

609
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: that hunting pressure that people have been complaining about there

610
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: for the last few years. But I don't know, man,

611
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: I hope that helps. That's my take on it. I mean,

612
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: it's not a bad choice if you had to pick

613
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: one or the other. Denver's got some good It's got

614
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: some redeeming qualities. Red Rocks is cool, you know, lots

615
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: of Golden has a cool little downtown. I've been hung

616
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: out there a little bit, but only as a tourist.

617
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: I've never tried to like, uh, get around the commute

618
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: times place like that. So yeah, I'd had to choose

619
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: Denver just because I have family there if I was

620
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: really pressed. But if I didn't have family, but I

621
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: think I'd go with the you're married but no kids, right,

622
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: you said, yes, they are married, no kids. That played

623
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: a part in moving back from Denver two. You know,

624
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: I want to be close to our family. I'm having

625
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: kids here, hopefully within the next year or two. Yeah,

626
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, well, you know, don't be in

627
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: a rush, take your time. But yeah, I also I

628
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: feel like if you're in Denver and you were a

629
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: single man, you'd be you'd have the prospects, but being married,

630
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: didn't want to start a family. Small town life ain't

631
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: bad for that. So um, well, hopefully we helped you

632
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: at least. Uh. I wish we had a camper sponsor

633
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: because we might have sold a camper. But beyond that,

634
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: any other anything we missed here, anything we can do better? No, man,

635
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: nothing you missed. Uh. You know, I really appreciate the time.

636
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: And you know, it's a sort of an impossible question,

637
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: but I really appreciate the advice. Now it's a it's

638
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: a fun one to end. Either way you'll be you'll

639
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: still be hunting, so there's no uh no downside there. Yeah,

640
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: email us when you have a decision so we can

641
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: follow up. Let everybody which way you decided to go. Please,

642
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: I will thank you guys so much. I appreciate it.

643
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: All right, Trey, thanks for averything. Man, talk soon, but

644
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: thank you. Take care all right, Well, we may have

645
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: changed the life, Johnnie, do you feel kind of like

646
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: Oprah is right now. Oh man, I'm not familiar with

647
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Oprah enough to know if I'm feeling Opra is you

648
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: don't you gave something to somebody? Yeah, I hope, I

649
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: hope that it, you know, helped his decision making a

650
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: little bit. Have you been watching the back Ford you have?

651
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: You got it? You've been busy. Have you watched it? Yeah? Yeah?

652
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: Did you see the episode where we replayed your sprits

653
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: NG reaction? No? You replayed that? Yeah? Episode three? They

654
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: were we had Tony Peterson on with Mark Kenyon and

655
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: they were talking about how they were white tailed nerds

656
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: and like they were relating to each other via oh

657
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: you're a nerhenomin nerd is great? And Mark brought up

658
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: that you know, you and Steve don't really understand the

659
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: white tail nerd um like those two gentlemen do. And

660
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: then we've replayed you last I think I understand it

661
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: very well, partaking it, And so we replayed the bit

662
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: about you laughing hysterically. When I think hysterically, it's a

663
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: good that's a good description. No, that was a very

664
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: genuine laugh. When I saw him spray the camera down,

665
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: he touched the camera, So what happened was you guys

666
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: were checking cameras while you're scorel hunting, and so he

667
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: touched the camera and then removed. How did he even

668
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: have a sent away spray? Did he have it like

669
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: in his vest? No? But you know what, I'm gonna

670
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: send him an f HF bear spray hole, sir. So

671
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: it's always on his belt. He always has it? Yeah,

672
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I never thought about where did

673
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: he keep it he's out hunting. Did he have a

674
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: little I think he had a backpack and he had

675
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: back cards and whatever else? Whatever else? He has flash cards?

676
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Uh U No, No, it's camera cards. Its camera cards.

677
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: I thought maybe hed like big Buck flash cards. Uh

678
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: so you laughed, Steve laughed, We all laughed. Everybody laughed. Um.

679
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: And now we've got a couple of emails from people

680
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: that saw that. We have three different emails from people

681
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: who saw that. And I wanted to know what was

682
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: going on. So we're gonna call joan named Mark. Let's

683
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: see what he had to say. We've kind of already

684
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: addressed this question, but we're gonna we're gonna dive deep

685
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: into it here with Mark Hey, Mark, Mark, ben O, Brian,

686
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: You hospitelis how's it going? What's up? Mark? Good? I

687
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: got doing? Just living the dream man? What are you doing? Man?

688
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: Just excited to be talking to y'all? Really all right, Well,

689
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: we we're here answering questions and Yanti's changing lives um

690
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: as always as always is getting it in. Um. We know. Yeah,

691
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: we already kind of broached the topic of the Back forty.

692
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: So just assuming that you've been watching the old Back

693
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: forty yes, I have been for sure, okay, And you

694
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: saw a scene there where Yanni was laughing at Mark,

695
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: uh so yeah, take it from there, all right? Um so,

696
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: and I think it was episode three of the Back

697
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: forty Uh, Yanni and Mark and Steve we're out hunting

698
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: squirrels and scouting out the land and Mark decided to

699
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: take it upon himself to use that time to grab

700
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: some trail cam cards. Um. And while he was buttoning

701
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: up one of the cameras, uh, he went in head

702
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: and sprayed the camera down with scent cover, to which

703
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: Yanni's reaction, which is classic um um responding to to

704
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: that to that scene. Now, I think I don't know

705
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: Mark as well as y'all do. Obviously he probably has

706
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: some O C D tendencies, um from what from what

707
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: we can tell, but this obviously, this, this obviously broaches

708
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: a subject that in my mind where um Janice, you

709
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: certainly viewed that as a line and a visible line

710
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: that was crossed and that mark maybe over did overplayed

711
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: his hand there, and so it made me start thinking like, Okay,

712
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: so maybe there is some thresholds that you can use

713
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: when you do you should or should not be using

714
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: the scent cover. And what are those thresholds um for

715
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, practical and impractical uses. And yeah, that that

716
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: scene is just a lot of a lot of what

717
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: you do and say. Makes me laugh at that one

718
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: when I first saw it made me about fall out

719
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: my chair when I watched it. So uh well, I

720
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: think more than anything, he just caught me off guard.

721
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 1: And it might even been the sound because it wasn't

722
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: like a sprit sound. It was like a like it

723
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: was air sold spray that that that he had in

724
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: there and caught me off guard, you know in that moment,

725
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, we're out there squirrel hunting

726
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: three dudes plus two camera operators. So we're throwing laying

727
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: down some megacent and we're all standing right next to

728
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: this camera and then to all of a sudden for

729
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: him to like go next level because he didn't want,

730
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, and I understand why he wants to do

731
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: it right, He like doesn't want that camera to smell

732
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: like a human. And Um, Mark and I we actually

733
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: did at Wired to Hunt podcast couple of days ago,

734
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: and I was telling about how I had a dough

735
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: that I know didn't catch my wind because I was

736
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: so high in a tree. I was on a ridge

737
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: and it was my wind was blowing, my scent was

738
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: blowing off this ridge. Yet when she got to the

739
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: base of that tree, she smelled something, and I think

740
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: it was my climbing stick, you know. So maybe I

741
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: should have taken, you know, mark slow approach there, and

742
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: when I put up that first climbing stick, you know,

743
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: spray it down and maybe it would have allowed her

744
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: to at least passed by instead of spooking and going

745
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: back the way that she came from, which may or

746
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: may not have affected my hunt later. Um, but look, man,

747
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm no Joe whitetail. Mark is. So he's

748
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: got to answer the question about like the thresholds of

749
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, how far you can take it. And I think,

750
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'll speak a little bit from Mark, because

751
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: I've heard him say it a lot, you know, to him,

752
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: if he does it all and it happens to help

753
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: just a tenth of a percent and it buys him

754
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: a half a second or a second in the moment,

755
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: he will do it, and he will gladly take it. Um.

756
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: And he also tells me which this is. This This

757
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: kind of hits home more than anything else. He's like, look,

758
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: the guys that I know there are successful every year

759
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: to kill him, mature bucks. All of them take their

760
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: scent control very seriously. So um, and you know, maybe

761
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: one day I'll get there. I hunted, you know, the

762
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: white tail rut this year for seven days, and uh

763
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: we bought some scent away spray. I think I quit

764
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: spraying it about day three, but I know we kept

765
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: our boots outside, all of our exterior hunting garments were

766
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: kept outside. H you know, I was trying to minimize.

767
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: But again, we're hunting always with two people, and I

768
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: just feel like I can spend more time thinking about

769
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: my setup and to what the wind is going to

770
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: be doing, and just spend more time. I got a

771
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: lot more to like dial in before I feel like

772
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: the scent thing is going to really really help me. Yeah,

773
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: there's two things here. One I think this is if

774
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: you're a single species hunter like Mark seems to want

775
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: to be, or is he is, you have time to

776
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: like dive into the minutia because that's all you think about.

777
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: But if you're like the rest of us who like

778
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: to get out and hit a squirrel up every now

779
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: and then, like like a nice waterfowl hunt, like the

780
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: hunt maybe a mule Martin don't even know there's another

781
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: deer in our country. They look the same they you know,

782
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: they they're from the same stock. Um. So there's that part,

783
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: like he has the time because that's always thinking about

784
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't have, Like your mind has to be awash

785
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: with other things when you're trying to move around and

786
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: do different have different pursuits. But also that's a rabbit hole, man.

787
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: Once you once you allow yourself to obsess over every

788
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: minutia as a part of strategy to kill deer, you

789
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: can obsess over any little thing, and like you just said,

790
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: get yourself off track, get yourself thinking about sprits and

791
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: things and doing things that are helping a little and

792
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: you're not thinking enough about the things that are helping

793
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot. And so I don't think Mark does that.

794
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: But I think if if if you're just a normal

795
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: hunter out there and you want to obsess over something,

796
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: there there's some pitfalls. Is this helping Mark? Is this

797
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: helping Mark? Yeah? No, that was great. I was just

798
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: really helps getting your thought process behind that scene what

799
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: was going on. But yeah, and they're getting the details. No,

800
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Thank you. I'll cap it off

801
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: with this too. Making content and making entertainment. Uh, some

802
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: friction can oftentimes be good and uh and and it

803
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: it goes a long way and uh, you know, people

804
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: love hearing Steve and I, uh, you know, get after

805
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: each other or whatever have you know, a little discuss,

806
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: a little discussions where we might not think the same way.

807
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: And um, because if if you don't do that, then

808
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: it just it ends up having a very monotone feel

809
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: and everybody's just going agreeing with each other and it's

810
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: not much fun, right, And not not only friction, but

811
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean I've been in another episode, I was really

812
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of rooting for you to kind of get one

813
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: of the first deer out of the back forty and

814
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: just seeing your reaction to Mark and being excited for

815
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: him was really kind of a cool moment because I

816
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: know you wanted to get a deer as much as

817
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: Mark did, but when he ended up getting it and

818
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: you're recognizing how much hard work you put into that

819
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: entire project, it was just really kind of a cool

820
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: thing that, you know, an opposite from the friction side

821
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: of it, but really really speak to the community very well,

822
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: and I think what you are trying to promote, Yeah,

823
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean to the to the point where you know

824
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna rib each other, and I'm I certainly I

825
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: am the one who ribs Mark Kenyan more than anyone

826
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: on the earth. I always say he's as a tall

827
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: man's body and a small man and a short man's face. Uh.

828
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: And he accepts. He doesn't get mad at me for said,

829
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: do you take that, Johnnie. He's very He's like sneakily

830
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: tall when he walks into the room. Yeah, he's six

831
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: what two two or three? I mean, I guess I'm

832
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: just maybe short, but when he walks. When I first

833
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: saw him on YouTube, I thought, well, he must be

834
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: a short guy. When he walked in the room, he

835
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: was six three, and I just think he has a

836
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: short look to him. His face looks short, like he

837
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: would be a short man. So I give him all

838
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: kinds of crap all the time, but he knows, And

839
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: Yannie and Steve know that ultimately that you know, what

840
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: we're doing is supporting each other. You know, through you

841
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't let anybody but your friend or someone you know

842
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: loves you and support ship. You talk to you like that,

843
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: treat you like you know, So it's not that understanding

844
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: that helps it go. Well, Mark, thank you for watching

845
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: all this stuff and hanging out with us. Thanks for

846
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: asking questions. And this is one of my favorite scenes. Uh.

847
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: And we did, I mean we wrote that episode. We

848
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: were trying to figure out what would make that episode good.

849
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: With that squirrel hunt. We wanted to try to play

850
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: out the fact that Mark just didn't understand why you

851
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 1: would squirrel hunt in September. It was real, he didn't

852
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: want to. We had to force him to do it.

853
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: We had to force him to do it. So nothing

854
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: nothing prescribed about that. So thanks Mark, we appreciate it.

855
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: Man and um have a good rest of you to

856
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: good holiday, all right, y'all too, Thank you guys, Mark,

857
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: But the fact for he's over. Man, it's it. I

858
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: know it's a little sad, huh A little bit? Yeah?

859
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: Is it public? Is everybody already know what the plan is? Well,

860
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: what's this coming out? Yeah? Yeah, So by the time

861
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: it comes up, people will know that we're donating the

862
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: property to the National Deer Association formally the Quality Dear

863
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: Management Association. That this is hard to get that had

864
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: murdered Alliance now it was it was the National Deer Alliance.

865
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: I see, I can't there's no way this National Disassociation.

866
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Because it was the Quality Dear Management Association and the

867
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: National Deer Alliance, they merged to become the National Deer Association.

868
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: See if you can get that straight, I think I

869
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: just got it right. Um, we are donating that property,

870
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: the sixty four acres and all the coutrement to the

871
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: q d M A slash n d A UM and

872
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: so we're real excited about it. There's a lot of

873
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: content we're gonna make their UM. And it was good, man,

874
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: it's a good two years in back forty it's good.

875
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: It was good to kind of have a place where

876
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: we had to tell we were locked in. You know,

877
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: because the shows that you've done with Steve and that

878
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: you're doing Mediator Hunts, you can go, you can travel

879
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: with different dynamics, you know, different people, different characters come

880
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: in with the back Ford. It was like, you have

881
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: this land and and whatever Mark can do with it,

882
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: and that was that was challenging, but in the end

883
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: it was cool to kind of track it all through

884
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Yeah, there's pros to it too, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely,

885
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: you know what you got every time. Yeah, and the

886
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: plus you have history with everything and history that you've

887
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: all recorded throughout that time. And we ended up kind

888
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: of wanted to do it longer, but felt like there

889
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: are a whole lot of other cool things we could do.

890
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: All right, so we're calling. We're calling Chats here. It's

891
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: Chaz Captain Chase by the bye. Hell, Hey, is this

892
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: Chats or Chase? How do you say? C H A S.

893
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: I can never pronounce anybody's names. Yeah, see that, I

894
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: got it. Chatz, this has been and Brian and the

895
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: honest tell us what's going on? Man? Hey, then what's

896
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: going on? You know what's going on? Thanks for having

897
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: me on. Yeah, no problem. We we just noticed that

898
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: this as captain in front of your name. What kind

899
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: of captain with that? Oh, ca, Yeah, so I'm a

900
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: former U U S. Marine Corps captain. I flew at

901
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: eight teams in the Marine Corps. I just got out

902
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: of the air or Marines and I'm in the International

903
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: art now still as a captain. Now I apply of

904
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: sixteen And you had offered to in your email be

905
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: the privately if we ever got like a media to

906
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: private jet, that you would be the pilot. Is that right?

907
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: Oh man? Talk talk about dream opportunity, dream experience, dream job. Man. Yeah,

908
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: if that ever happens, I'm your guy. Please don't lose

909
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: my number. If anybody for the churning groups listening, so

910
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: hold on. Is that you're just general plan that after

911
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: you're done doing all this service that you'll then just

912
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: beat you'll become a pilot in in the private space. Yeah,

913
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: so in general, And what moost guys do is uh

914
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: when when they get out of active duty and active

915
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: service and they have uh um a required number of

916
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: hours built up flying the military aircraft, you'll then get

917
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: out and be eligible or competitive to apply for major airlines.

918
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: You know, all your all your major carriers for your

919
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: airlines or private pilots, what have you. Uh, So that's

920
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: what I'm doing now. So in the National Guard, I

921
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: cannot be opera tue to be a part time military

922
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: pilot and still fly for the airline as well. Because

923
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: of what's going on now, I don't have you know

924
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: that many places aren't accepting any applications at this time,

925
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: just do to do to you know, be obvious, Uh,

926
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, pandemic and so forth. So guys like me

927
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: are having a hard time getting those kinds of jobs.

928
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: Luckily we have the military as a backup. But it's

929
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: just just scarce jobs in the pilot industry in general.

930
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: Because does anybody ever say the hell with commercial and

931
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: just move up to Alaska and run a bush plane

932
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: for a few years. You know, I don't know personally

933
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: anybody who's done that, but it's looking like it's looking

934
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: more and more appealing. Yeah. Yeah, as a guy that

935
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: flies around some super badass planes really really fast that

936
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: do amazing things. When you look when you know a guy,

937
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: or you look at the whole like bush pilot scene,

938
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: what's your take on that like, because because for a

939
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: lot of people, like a bush pie, it's kind of

940
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: like very very cool to me? Is the ultimate bushpot

941
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: always does an F sixteen pilot also look at a

942
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: bush pilot someone cool or or what like what's your take,

943
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: like a garbage truck driver? Like, yeah, a good question.

944
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: I never really thought about it, like in detail, like, Hey,

945
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: what is the what is the ranking level or like

946
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: level of coolness that you are as a pilot. I

947
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: mean if I feel like if you're not, if you're

948
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: not a fighter pilot, a bush pilot's the next coolest

949
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: thing on the list, or it might even be cooler.

950
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I don't know if anybody personal

951
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: who's done the job. Uh, the very few guys I've

952
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 1: met who have done that stuff when we do, we've

953
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: taken because we've taken the fighters up to Alaska. There's

954
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: a lot of range space up in Alaska Fairbanks that

955
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: we've used. So that's the only time I've ever been

956
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: to Alaska is doing that stuff. But we we get

957
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: to hang out with those guys sometimes because they're they're

958
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: all over the place. Uh, and they're I mean they're

959
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: your blue collar you know, um, your heroes of the sky.

960
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: So I mean they're very cool dudes. Yeah, I mean

961
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: It's good to hear because I I've I've really have

962
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: a lot of heroes that are like mustachioed, flannel wearing

963
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: bush pilots, A lot of them, A lot of them

964
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: like the guy, the guy who found Timothy Treadwell. I

965
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: can't remember his name. He's cool. Met him one time. UM,

966
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: A lot a lot of skills, at least when I

967
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: when I when I look at it, you know, the

968
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: places we've been dropped off and picked up from. UM,

969
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm always very impressed with what they're doing with those

970
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: little planes. Oh yeah, I was in Northwest Territories one

971
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: time and the floatplane pilot was the you know, He's like,

972
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we go back and forth and we do this,

973
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: We run this route, you know, three or four times

974
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: a day, and we do that six six months out

975
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: of the year. I thought, the level the danger of

976
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: that that person goes through in a daily basis is unbelievable,

977
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: which I'm sure is the same for a fighter pilot

978
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: or were much worse. Those bush pilots are fearless. They

979
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: have to be. I feel like, yeah, is there a

980
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: level of fear and what you do? I my brother

981
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: in law runs runs fighter jets but he seems like

982
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: a pretty just level headed dute. He never really talks

983
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: about the feeling of getting up in the air like that,

984
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm sure everybody would tell you something

985
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: different how they talk about it. But I mean, if

986
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: you think about it, if you're every time you go up,

987
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: you're not just we're not just flying someplace, you know,

988
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: point A to point B. We're not just flying the airplane.

989
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: We're doing you know, mission sets, running systems in the airplane,

990
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: running weapons systems, And there's an objective every time you

991
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: go up. So maybe if you actually sat back and

992
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: thought about the big picture of what you're actually doing,

993
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: maybe it was scary a little bit more. But you're

994
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: always so busy doing something that maybe you don't have

995
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: time to be frightened by at all. But I mean, um, usually,

996
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, you're so well prepared to go out to

997
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: do those things, and and and you prepare long before

998
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: and your brief and and you think about it and

999
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: you and your practice, so when you go do it,

1000
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: you're not really thinking about being scared. Maybe later you

1001
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: look back and go, hell man, maybe I should have

1002
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: been scared here, but not in the moment. You know

1003
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: what I mean similar podcasting. Yeah, that was awesome, man,

1004
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: thank you so much. We're calling him and tell us

1005
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: all and uh, what's so it's open we can go

1006
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: down rabbit holes here. No, we're gonna let We're gonna

1007
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: let the chas on to ask this question. Now. I

1008
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: grew up in Maryland, not too far from Pennsylvania. Where

1009
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania are you, Jess? I'm from from near Pittsburgh,

1010
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: so a little town called Late Trobe. You guys might

1011
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: know it for rolling rock beer and Arnold Palmer Palmer

1012
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: the beverage or the guy are both? Uh, the Arnold

1013
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: Palmer the guy. Okay, I'm glad I now know how

1014
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: to pronounce that Trobe Trope. I've driven through there a

1015
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: few times, but never it never been How did you

1016
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: say chats? You didn't say La Trobe. You said La Trobe.

1017
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: So people who and I get this almost every time,

1018
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: people who are from there typically say la Trobe. If

1019
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: you're not from there, you say Latrobe. So I don't

1020
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: know if it's correct one way or the other, but

1021
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: that's if someone's from there, they say at one, yeah,

1022
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: you pick up your oh's the way that that folks

1023
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: from where I come from do Ohs you know, Orio

1024
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: Natty bo. That's that's how we that's the that's the

1025
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: uh the classic East Coaster all man. Yep, yep. Someone

1026
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: call it a Pittsburgh accent. Yep. It's like it's Baltimore, Pittsburgh.

1027
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: It's like that region. Coincidentally, I bought a thirty rack

1028
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: of the rolling Rocks for our most recent uh elk

1029
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: hunting trip out to eastern Montana, and uh yeah, well

1030
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: they weren't big hit. Two different people cracked one and

1031
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: it must have been a long time since they had

1032
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: a rolling rock, and they went, is this stuff okay?

1033
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I mean, I'm like, yeah, you mean

1034
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: the skunkiness, Like it's supposed to have like a little

1035
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: bit of like not quite Heineken, but it's got like

1036
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: a little micro skunk to it, and uh yeah, it's

1037
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: it's anyways, more than half that gate rack is still

1038
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: at my house, Jaz, have you ever coming to Montana,

1039
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: It'll probably still be there. Oh no, no, no, I'll

1040
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: make sure finds a home. All Right, we gotta get

1041
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: to the actual questions here. We digress, but that's podcasting.

1042
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: Um you had a good question, Chazz Fireaway okay, so, um,

1043
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: so I've Pennsylvania whitetail hunting. My dad and I we

1044
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: have a camp in northern Pennsylvania that we go up

1045
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: to and we we go down to the same spot

1046
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: almost every year. We walk from the road down into

1047
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: the woods maybe like a mile uh down to sit

1048
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: near near a river, the Clarion River to be specific.

1049
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: So it's not it's not that far in. It takes

1050
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: us about an hour walk down, fully loaded with all

1051
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 1: our stuff. The terrain is not terrible, but it's it's um,

1052
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not an easy, super easy walk in.

1053
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: It's not like what you guys do up in the

1054
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: mountains and everything else. I mean, you can't even compare it.

1055
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: But every time we shoot a deer, uh we we

1056
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: we got it out and we dragged the hang out

1057
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: and it takes us, you know, almost the whole afternoon

1058
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: to do so, especially because my my dad's you know,

1059
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: seventy two years old. So I do all of that stuff.

1060
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: So when we both shoot one, which happened this past year,

1061
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: I do all of that, which which I'm happy to do.

1062
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: But uh, I've never skinned and quartered the animal in

1063
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: the woods to try and pack it. Out. I'm wondering

1064
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: should I just be doing that and make my job

1065
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: slightly easier carried on my back rather than try and

1066
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: drag it through the woods. So if you were me,

1067
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: would you skin it, quarter it, pack it out or

1068
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: would you drag it and take and then hang it

1069
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: back at your hunting camp to drain and everything before

1070
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 1: you skin it and cord it? What do you think?

1071
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: This is my childhood? So but I'm gonna let I'm

1072
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: gonna let u Yanni take take the first crack. Um. Yes,

1073
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: you should get and you should start skinning and corning.

1074
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, listen, I think is a place for

1075
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: dragging beer. And if it's mostly downhill or flat and

1076
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: it's not far, but what Chase just described it sounds

1077
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: like it's uphill a mile approximately. Man. Back in the

1078
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: day Nebraska, you couldn't actually quote room. You had to

1079
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: check them in a hole. And so I a couple

1080
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: of times had drags that had to go up and

1081
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: down a ridge and then back up to the road

1082
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: or something like that. And the same thing. You're just like,

1083
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: you can't train for that. I mean, it's just like

1084
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: the workout of all workouts. You just gotta strip down

1085
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 1: to your the bass layer, have like special gloves because

1086
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, you know, holding that rack and

1087
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 1: a hundred different positions by the time it's all over.

1088
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: And if you don't have like your rope system exactly

1089
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: dialed in, like, man, it is just so much work.

1090
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: And the way I look at it, too, is that like,

1091
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: as long as you're gonna keep it on the bone,

1092
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you're really sacrificing too much by doing

1093
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: it in the field then waiting, you know, lend it

1094
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: hanging for two or three four days, and then skinning

1095
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: and then a quartering. Sure you're gonna get a little

1096
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: bit of dry crusted on the outside that you're gonna

1097
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, cut off and lose that meat. But I

1098
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: look at it like you're you're you're gonna have to

1099
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: do that work at some point anyways, Like you got

1100
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: your deer, get it done, you know, and if you

1101
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: do it right and take your time, you do it

1102
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: nice and clean. U'm sure you gotta pack some game bags, um,

1103
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: but I mean, heck, a white tailed deer can fit

1104
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: in just about a single game bag, um, maybe two,

1105
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: so you're not really packing that much extra with you um, so, yeah,

1106
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm a hun percent with you, and I'd like to

1107
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: just add to the counterpoint before ben um goes here,

1108
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: that Spencer new Hearth, one of our local white tail

1109
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: experts here, a meat eater. He I told him he's

1110
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: got to give the white tails a break, because I

1111
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: think he's killed like four or five with shure box

1112
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: this year. I'm like, don't you want to broaden your

1113
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: horizon a little bit? You know? Yeah, he did a

1114
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: really nice one, probably drug it to the truck. He

1115
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: probably did. Yeah, he had it. But he had a

1116
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: post recently where he killed one somewhere and he decided

1117
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: to quarter and pack it out on his back. And

1118
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: I believe the post says something along the lines of

1119
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but like, I will be doing this a

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: lot more. I can't believe I haven't been doing this,

1121
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: like it's the way to go. And I see a lot.

1122
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of deer hunting YouTube videos this

1123
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: summer in preparation because I was gonna go hunt white

1124
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: tails very seriously for the first time in a long time,

1125
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: so just to get fired up and see, you know,

1126
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: see tips and tricks. And I saw a lot of

1127
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: videos where guys were in one mile maybe two miles,

1128
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: and they're leaving the deer to go get a cart

1129
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: or go get like a bunch of dudes to help

1130
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: him drag this deer. M man. If I was there,

1131
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: I would have had that thing quartered into the truck

1132
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: before your first got there to help you. Like, what's

1133
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: the point? Well, you know, listen, I agree. I agree

1134
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: with jazz. You can give me some tradition bullshit. Yes,

1135
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: here's what, here's here's and I think a lot of

1136
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: people in Pennsylvania, Maryland where I came from, you go

1137
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: through this this progression when I was, when I was

1138
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: a youngster. Yeah, just just to stick with me here.

1139
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: When I was a young man, we started hunting. I

1140
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: believe the progression was we were in the beginning. We

1141
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: would drag the deer out by its antlers. One guy

1142
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: takes one side, one guy takes the other side. You

1143
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: generally would want to grab it down towards the base

1144
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: between the brow sign and where the main beam goes.

1145
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: What would you do if it was a doll by

1146
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: the legs, Then you grab by the legs. It's a

1147
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: little harder the legs front legs, each um and so

1148
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: you start that way, and we had a couple of

1149
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: instances where we literally dragged the deer so far all

1150
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: the hair was gone on once. Have you ever had

1151
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: that chats where you dragged it so far that all

1152
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: the hair was gone on one side? Yeah, yeah, everybody's

1153
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: we've all been there except for Johnny. Well, yeah, because

1154
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: where I grew up, it was I guess we're always

1155
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: just hunting oaks, and it just seems like you're always

1156
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: dragging them through six inches of oak leaves and those

1157
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 1: things slide very well. Yeah, we would be dragging deer

1158
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: through creeks, up and down hills, over ridges, through you know,

1159
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: through meadows. It's just the longer you do it, the

1160
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: more you're just gonna end up with like just hide

1161
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: on one side, and that's not great. You don't feel

1162
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: great about what you've done to the meat or the

1163
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: deer when you're hanging up and one side is mangled

1164
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: like that, you don't you don't feel like that. So

1165
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: that's how we started, because I'm gonna get to the

1166
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: end goal of the traditional part here. But and then

1167
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: we progressed to the drag rope and and Chads will

1168
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: probably know this too, that there's a rope that has

1169
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: an orange harness on it, right, I haven't a couple.

1170
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: You put the harness over your shoulders and then tie

1171
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: that too, so you can either have one dude with

1172
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: eat one loop each on a shoulder, or one guy

1173
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: with two loops on his shoulders. And then he dragged

1174
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: the deer out that a way. It's much easier. It's

1175
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: like it's it's a bit more of a compatible physical

1176
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: movement because you're not just dragging something. You're just running

1177
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: forward and the things behind you. And then you get

1178
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: to a log and you're like, son of a bitch,

1179
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: you're any kind of impediment. So that we went to

1180
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: that next, and then we got smart and we got

1181
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: a cart. Now you mentioned the going we would when

1182
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: we hunted, like deep in public land for white tails.

1183
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: We would take the cart in with us, put all

1184
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 1: our gear and packs on the cart, drag the cart

1185
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 1: in across a creek with the cart stashed the cart,

1186
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: put some leaves, and should have whatever ever go up

1187
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: to our hunting spot, and then have a three yard

1188
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 1: walked down to get the cart. One the deer was dead,

1189
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: and that revolutionized getting the deer out of the woods.

1190
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: And this is you know, late nineties, early too thousands

1191
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: revolutionized the O'Brien family getting the deer out of the

1192
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: woods system. And so I think we stayed with the

1193
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: cart for a long time. But again, if you're not

1194
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: walking on a trail, a cart's not fun either. Now

1195
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: you got to get wheels up over a long instead

1196
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: of just flopping a deer over there. But at the

1197
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: end of the day, the deer looks nice, pristine if

1198
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: it's you know, lashed to a cart instead of drink

1199
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: through through the timber. So that's where we got and

1200
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: then eventually, um, we never I don't think growing up

1201
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: we ever quartered a deer out that I can remember.

1202
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: We always got it to the truck and we had

1203
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: skinning parties in the garage in my house, and that

1204
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: was like the thing that I remember the most, hanging

1205
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: that deer up by the game rules and skinning it

1206
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: out and drinking beer when I was old enough. And

1207
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: so it's having a deer drinking natty bow. Stro's natty bows?

1208
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: What's the bow and natty bohemian? Is that right? Yeah,

1209
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: we were just talking about that last episode, but is

1210
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: it natural bohemian? Yeah, that's what it is national bohemian,

1211
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: national bohemian. I can't believe if there's a beer out there,

1212
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: never natural. Yeah, I think it's natural bohemian bohemian. I've

1213
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: never heard of it. I've never heard of it. N

1214
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: you gotta get it, we gotta do, we'll do. I

1215
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: need to uns out of you need to be East

1216
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: coast to get it, I guess. So, yeah, that's yeah.

1217
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: You got a boot like that to Montana, which I've done.

1218
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: I had a caggy yongling at my wedding. You did

1219
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. They were getting off topic of game.

1220
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: But anyway, hanging up a deer and the gambles in

1221
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: the garage with a tarp and a bunch of buckets

1222
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: for people to sit on and one guy skinning and

1223
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: everybody talking ship and being like a party is so

1224
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: different than just described like my experience, my entire hunting

1225
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: experience that I just did like two weeks ago. I

1226
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: can send you pictures of this exact thing, please do. Yeah,

1227
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: and there's buckets. You don't sit on chairs, You sit

1228
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: on buckets. Why because that's what's in the garage tar

1229
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: the garage blue tart was the tart blue? How well?

1230
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: How how far after you see, I didn't even never

1231
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: never met Chats in my life. I know everything about

1232
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: what he does over there. Yeah, I think tarp soldier

1233
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: blue guys. There's green tarps and gray one. Hey, but

1234
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: how far when you guys have a skinning party, what's

1235
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: the end result with the meat? Like, how far do

1236
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: you take the process? Oh, you go down, you go

1237
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: down to just the bones man, and you can also

1238
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: take you're pretty much butchering and wrapping your meat at

1239
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: that point. Yeah, but basically so you don't think you

1240
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: guys could just just sw just pivot just a little

1241
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: bit and kind of skip the skinning part on the

1242
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: gambrel and just have your table there and and slap

1243
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: down four quarters and start chopping. I'm gonna let Chazz

1244
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: answer this too, But I think it's like gathering around

1245
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: a fire. Right that deer hanging is like something to

1246
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: gather around. It would be like a pile of meat

1247
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: no longer has that. It would be like lighting flour

1248
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: candles or having one big camp fire, And I just

1249
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: like to gather around the campfire. Does that make sense?

1250
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: Chazz I would agree. I would agree, especially if you're

1251
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: coming from a from a hunting camp with a bunch

1252
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: of guys up there, who after the first day you

1253
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: can stand around, you know, admire, admire your your day's work,

1254
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: and drink some beers and hang out with the boys

1255
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: Like that's that's kind of a that's an experience in

1256
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: itself which is enjoyable and you kind of I guess

1257
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: youn't have that if you're just like, hey man, check

1258
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: out my cooler full of deer. But true, that's true. Yeah,

1259
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean I have a micarage now at butchering table.

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Speaker 1: Say it's an experience, Yeah, it really is. You're right.

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Speaker 1: From a practical standpoint, You're right. Yeah, You're just gonna

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01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 1: have to weigh how much you want to have that

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01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: experience of that buck hanging there and everybody hanging around

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01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: and admiring it. Because I will say, like a great

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01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: memory of mine and a thing we still do every

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01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: year in Wisconsin. The years that we do, you know,

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01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: kill some deer, but there's a meat pole and it's

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01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: like a great picture when you look back on it

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01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, remember seventeen we killed

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01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: four bucks and eight does over the weekend, Like that

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: was great. And there's the whole group of people standing

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01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: in front of it. Everybody that attended that you know

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01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: that year. Um. So yeah, there's there's something beautiful about

1274
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 1: a buck on a meat pole, um, or just a deer,

1275
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, hanging off a meat pole. But you just

1276
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: have to decide. You have to weigh do do you

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01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: want to go through that pain of dragging it uphill

1278
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: mile to get that uh, five or ten minutes hanging

1279
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: around ampiring it. Yeah, my house, we would be my dad.

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: We would take I feel like we would often take

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: the backstraps off first and they would go in and

1282
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: be like frying them up in the kitchen while the

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01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: rest of the work was done. And by the time

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01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: you were done, you had a nice like a little snack,

1285
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: a little thing. So I just have such fond I

1286
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: remember like hunting as a kid was more about that

1287
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: skinning party than it was about the It was a

1288
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: hunt itself. So hopefully it helps Jazz. I feel like,

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01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: if you want to be practical, uh and pragmatic, then

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01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: you go with Yanni. And if you want to you know,

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: you be emotional and then and traditional and you go

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01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: with with me. Does that that help? I'm at least

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01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: trying to Janni's way once because making making multiple trips

1294
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: to to go get all to take off all your

1295
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: heavy clothes, to come back down to drag a deer out,

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01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: another trip down to get another deer. I mean, I'm

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01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: doing it. I think I'm gonna try it the honest way.

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01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: So uh and if it's if it's not sentimental enough

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: for me, I'll go back to it. But I'm at

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01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: least gonna try it. So thanks very much, thanks for

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01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 1: the input. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna change my ways.

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01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: Send me a picture of a bunch of Jews on buckets,

1303
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: sitting sitting around a single quarter hanging from the raption.

1304
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: Maybe it works. We never know best both worlds all right,

1305
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 1: thanks Jazz, appreciate it, man, Thanks for the college has

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: good guys, thanks for having me on much appreciate it. So, yeah,

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: how's a good one. I like that one, Yannie. I

1308
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: feel like that we learned we all learned something about

1309
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, for sure, for sure. So I I yeah,

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01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't even have the opportunity to pack it the

1311
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: yar out like that anymore, which is kind of sad

1312
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: for me. I was such a dragger when I came

1313
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: to Colorado and my first fall ever up at pat

1314
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: Country Outfitters up there and yump him. Um My buddy

1315
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy had shown up, who was a previous guy. He

1316
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: didn't got anymore, but he showed up. He had a

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: cow tag Muzzleloto cow tag. So you know, I only

1318
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: showed up there in August. I was very new to

1319
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: this place and these people. And uh he shoots a cow,

1320
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: guts that leaves it up on the hill, comes back.

1321
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: We kind of like have dinner, put the clients to

1322
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: to the bed, and we gotta go get this cow.

1323
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: And uh he of course he and along with everybody

1324
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: else is thinking, well, we'll just run up there with

1325
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, frame packs and we'll quarter it out and

1326
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: walk down off the hill. I'm like, hold on, it's

1327
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: just right up on this hill behind camp. Get you

1328
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: know what we do in Michigan this tie a rope

1329
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: to it. And because what we would do with the

1330
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: dough is actually take the front legs and kind of

1331
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: make like and put them together with the head and neck.

1332
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: Because if you don't do that, you got the heads

1333
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: kind of flopping everywhere and getting caught on everything, you know,

1334
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: So we'd make a little bundle and I'm like, Jimmy,

1335
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: how big is this cow? Was not a great big cow?

1336
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, no problem, let's go dude. I

1337
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: mean that was just a full on exercise and it

1338
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: was downhill the whole way, but aspen logs everywhere. You know,

1339
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: it would get going too fast down the aspen leaves

1340
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: and take people out. We had a hell of a time.

1341
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: We laughed a lot, and who did a lot. But

1342
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: I can tell you that was the first and last

1343
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: elk drug off of a mountain out of that camp. Yeah,

1344
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 1: I just you know, even in my own in my

1345
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: life now is I'm trying to you just moved to Montana.

1346
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: I'm trying to set up like how when I kill something?

1347
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: What do I do? Right? I got a big butchering

1348
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: table in my garage, stainless steel and all the things

1349
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: I'll the there. And man, did I miss the gambrels

1350
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: this last couple of times I brought home quartered animals.

1351
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: I missed it. So this fall, I'm gonna get some gambles,

1352
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: like a three pole like TP looking gamble system and

1353
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: put it on the concrete path in the side of

1354
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: my house so in case and I'm and I really

1355
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: around Montana. Wherever else I go, I want to find

1356
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: places where I can't get the whole animal out. So

1357
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: just that's called private ranch hunting ball. Oh yeah, is

1358
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: that right? Oh yeah? Because all you have to do

1359
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: is go down to Yellowstone Game Processing, which is right

1360
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: there at the exit when you're going to my house. Yea,

1361
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: and uh hang out there for an hour or two.

1362
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: And they received lots of whole elk really like guys

1363
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: are wenching them into trucks. Ye oh yeah, really that

1364
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: seems insane. The only time this has ever happened to me.

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01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: I was actually the first elk I ever killed. I

1366
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: think was over here. It's like a decade ago or

1367
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: twelve years ago by Lake Ennis. Was on a hunt.

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01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: Shot a bull right by Lake Ennis, right and just

1369
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: right before the public land there in a private ranch,

1370
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: and we were literally hiking up. It was my dream

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01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: to hike up into the Madison Range and go hunt.

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01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: It's I'd never been to Montana before, is my dream

1373
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: to go hunt in the Madison Range. We didn't even

1374
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: make it to the mountains. We were in some damn

1375
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: agg field overlooking the lake and here stands a bull

1376
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: just by himself. With a bunch of cattle, and whenever

1377
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: there shot him, dude drives out. He's got a flat

1378
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: a flat top pick up and like he gives flat bed.

1379
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: Flat bed, yeah, flat bed, and he just gets his

1380
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: wench out and and drags this thing over there, puts

1381
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: it in his flat bed, and awfull we go. And

1382
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, that wasn't what I was looking

1383
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: for experience wise. I'm glad I got this elk, but

1384
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, this is what I would have done. Then

1385
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: we hung it up in some big pole barn and

1386
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: they skinned it, and then it was just it didn't

1387
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: feel like the elk. Contin I was looking prototypical, your

1388
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: real picky. You want that for white tail deer, but

1389
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: you don't want that for elk. You're right, see, And

1390
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: I like it going back to Ohio versus Denver. You know,

1391
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of Ohio, a little bit of

1392
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: den in there, a little bit of Colorado, a little

1393
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: bit of Ohio. All right, man, well, I like asked

1394
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: the eagle. I feel like we're just gonna keep were done. Yeah,

1395
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: we're done. We've hit the we've hit that time. Kids,

1396
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: We've got to go. Yeah. That was fun. Those were

1397
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: good questions those were and I really do like asked

1398
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: the Eagle. I think people out there like it. We've

1399
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: got another hundred emails to draw from. So if if

1400
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: you didn't get it this time, if you didn't see

1401
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: Yanni's social post, then emails your question t h D

1402
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: at the media dot com and label it asked the Eagle,

1403
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: and we'll get it in the rotation for what it's

1404
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a monthly affair here at the Hunty Collected

1405
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: because I have fun doing it. Remember, there are no

1406
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: stupid questions, but there are good ones and bad ones,

1407
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: and entertaining ones and boring ones. So uh, if you

1408
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 1: want to make it on here, think it through a

1409
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: little bit, as we say, with not to sharp moments,

1410
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: not too long but not too short, just the right

1411
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: length and the right intention. You know what I was

1412
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 1: told in a h email the other day, Steve Janice

1413
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: remy at all, So he's addressing you as well, Ben

1414
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: sure his first sentences as gentleman that don't seem to

1415
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: value brevity and then spoken and written word. I hope

1416
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 1: you will bear with me and endure the length of

1417
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: my email. That is a great way to kick off

1418
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: an email because he's kind of he's kind of like

1419
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: punching in the face, but at the same time giving

1420
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: you a hug, which is how we treat each other. Yeah,

1421
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: and so like obviously you're gonna read his email. Yeah,

1422
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: you're like, well, what's this guy got to say? That's

1423
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: so damn important and we should have him all he was.

1424
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if it just took him a while

1425
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: to get through the Medeor podcast, but he had. He

1426
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: had listened to the Meat Tree episodes. And I want

1427
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 1: to write in about that. I won't get into that,

1428
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: but I actually value brevity immensely when I write. I'm

1429
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: one of those people that I take it to heart

1430
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: to try to never use the word very because I

1431
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 1: figured that there if you want to say very excited,

1432
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: there is a word that means in the English language

1433
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: that means very excited that you could use instead. But

1434
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to producing television that we do, brevity

1435
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: is key. It's like, if you have somebody that's long

1436
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: winded and can't get a point out succinctly, it's gonna

1437
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: make it tough to edit, man, and um, it just

1438
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: gets boring, you know, and you kind of like you

1439
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: have to realize that you don't always get everything that

1440
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: you want, but it's more important, more valuable just to

1441
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: have stuff clipping along, moving along and uh and yeah,

1442
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: so anyways, being able to being able to say what

1443
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: you mean in a podcast sense, we just like to

1444
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: talk and that's what that's what this is. But be

1445
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: in the written word, being able to say what you

1446
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: mean without having to bemoan the fact being able to

1447
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: clearly can slisely express your point is a skill and

1448
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: the written word, but also in the TV show Hunting World,

1449
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: where you're trying to explain something but you don't have

1450
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of time to do it,

1451
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: and you've got to get right through it and move

1452
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: on to the next thing. And it's got it all.

1453
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: Everything has to build on itself. So there's a lot

1454
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: in this world. But yeah, keep him short, keep him concise.

1455
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: You now you know what Yanni likes. Now you know

1456
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: what he likes, and and he's and and he's a

1457
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: stickler about who comes on and asked you might to

1458
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: have a T shirt that just says brevity, But it's

1459
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: that's all it says. That's just a brevity period. All right. Well,

1460
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 1: we're very very happy, very very very happy to have

1461
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: you every time, Yannio. Thanks Ben. It's always a pleasure

1462
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 1: to be on and appreciate all the folks right now

1463
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: with their question. Yeah, this is one of my favorite

1464
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: things we do and we're gonna keep doing it here

1465
01:18:54,240 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: at the Hunting Collective. Say bye your honest Ah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all another episode in the books, one fifty six.

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Speaker 1: I'll get the number right this time. Thank you to Janice,

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Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody that called in. Thanks for your service.

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Speaker 1: Captain chaz Uh. It was great to hear from everybody,

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Speaker 1: And to those folks that we did not get to, um,

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Speaker 1: including my good friend and I want to read you

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Speaker 1: an email from one of our We we did not

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01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 1: get to a gentleman named Tim King who had a

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Speaker 1: good story for us. Um. We didn't get to him.

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Speaker 1: So apologies to Tim King UM. And he emailed me, Hey,

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01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 1: you didn't call me. What's up man? And I said, oh, sorry,

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01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: we we just ran out of time. We had to

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Speaker 1: vacate the studio. And his reply was, that is really unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: I was looking forward to talking with you guys. I

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01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: even took some time off work and turned over a

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01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: customer with a knife sailed to a co worker. This

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01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: is the closest I have come to meeting a hero,

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01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: and the old saying reigns true. I guess don't try

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01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: and meet him. You will end up disappointed. Thanks for

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01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: all the content during these trying times. Everyone appreciates it.

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01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: Ex Cult follower Tim k. So we lost a guy.

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Speaker 1: We we lost somebody. Phil, I replied to him, uh,

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Speaker 1: and just said, Tim, I feel deeply responsible to make

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Speaker 1: this up to you, so in time I will until

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Speaker 1: then be your own hero. I'll keep thekool aid on

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01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: nice until you return. Best Ben O'Brien. So, Tim, if

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Speaker 1: you're listening, maybe you're not listening because we've we've upset

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01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: you so much. We apologize. We will make it up

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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: to you on the next asked the Eagle segment, next

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01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: time around, and everyone else I wrote in the other

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01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: over a hundred people that wrote in with questions for us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do as many asked the Eagle segments as

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Speaker 1: we can do. So we have those in the hopper.

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Speaker 1: So watch out for an email from me or a

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Speaker 1: phone call for me to set it up for next time.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for that. And next we have two

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Speaker 1: more shows, Phil, two more shows in and um the

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Speaker 1: first one is Clay Newcomb. We got Clay Knwcombe coming

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01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: up next week. Now Clay is gonna you know, if

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01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: if folks haven't heard since the last time he's been

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01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: on the show, he's joined Meat Eater. He's now a

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01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: meat eater, a person who works at meat either uh.

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01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: And we're very very very happy to have Clay. Clay's

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01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: a fantastic human and so next year we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: him on into pretty regular cadence for a segment we

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Speaker 1: call Guard the Gate. Guard the Gate is a segment

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01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: that you're gonna hear and if you if you don't

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01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: know about that, go and listen to his first appearance

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01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: on the show and you'll learn all about that. But

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01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna be hearing a lot more from Clay, including

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01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: next week where we talk about faith in the outdoors

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01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: and depth. We're talking about guarding our pursuits from folks

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: that would love to take it away. So we'll be

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01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: here next week. Say by if Hill goodbye, you know,

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01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: because I can't go a week without doing rung without

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01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: you and rung drinking out right drinking