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Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hi mega odem, and welcome to Thanks Dad. I

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Speaker 2: was raised by a single mom and don't have a

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Speaker 2: relationship with my dad and I really don't think I

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Speaker 2: ever will because he's actually dead. He's dead now, Yep,

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Speaker 2: he died, he died, He went and fucking died last year.

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Speaker 2: That bastard. Or I guess that would be me because

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Speaker 2: technically I'm the bastard, right Okay. On this podcast, I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting down with father figures who are old enough to

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Speaker 2: be my dad?

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Speaker 1: That's the this podcast full stop your dad? Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we left that part out when we reached

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Speaker 2: out to guests. We did se no, no, no, or

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Speaker 2: or who are just that dad's themselves? That too? Okay.

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to know how old you are now?

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Speaker 1: Your age start with a.

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Speaker 2: Two as far as Hollywood is concerned. Yeah, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But I'll get to ask the questions I've always wanted

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Speaker 2: to ask a dad, like how do I know if

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Speaker 2: the guy I'm dating is right for me? Or what

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Speaker 2: should I look out for when buying a car? Can

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Speaker 2: you help me change the oil in the car once

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Speaker 2: I get the car?

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Speaker 1: I think you're revealing that I'm a terrible dad.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is the author of Daddy Diaries, The Year

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Speaker 2: I Grew Up, the host of the Daddy Diaries podcast,

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Speaker 2: and watch What Happens Live. Please welcome My Dad for

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Speaker 2: the Day, Andy Cohen. Did you know you were going

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Speaker 2: to be my dad for the day? Did you know

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Speaker 2: that part?

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Speaker 1: Well? You know?

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Speaker 3: I am a My Housewives tagline is I am a

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Speaker 3: father of two.

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Speaker 1: And a daddy to many. My God, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Sorry for my voice. I apologize you guys. I talk

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Speaker 1: a lot and sometimes it goes out.

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Speaker 2: This happens, but it's kind of sexy. I shouldn't say

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Speaker 2: that about my dad. Can you say your dad? That's sexy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Baby, already weird?

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Speaker 2: I know, okay, but daddy too many. I like that,

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Speaker 2: but then I also feel less special. And your two

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Speaker 2: are really special, obviously the most special.

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Speaker 1: Yes they are.

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Speaker 2: You have a girl and a boy.

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Speaker 1: I do well, ages five and two? Who's five?

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Speaker 3: Ben?

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Speaker 1: My solf?

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Speaker 2: Ben is five? Okay? And what's your daughter's name?

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Speaker 1: Lucy?

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Speaker 2: Lucy beautiful name and she's two? Yes, okay? And your

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Speaker 2: your fake I see it in your eyes, dad, I

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Speaker 2: see it in your eyes when you talk about them.

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Speaker 2: It's very sweet. Yeah, yeah, okay, you love.

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Speaker 1: Being a dad. I can't believe you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was like mister bachelor forever. I didn't

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Speaker 3: have kids until I was fifty.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's better to wait in your experience?

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Speaker 1: For me, it's great to wait.

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Speaker 2: Why do you feel I froze my eggs? I'm glad

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Speaker 3: A bit of the things that I think is just

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Speaker 3: to without being restrained. It can really wind up messing

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Speaker 3: that they had. And for me, the ability to create

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Speaker 3: and also through it all, I mean, I.

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Speaker 3: And I kind of worked through that. But if I

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Speaker 2: Different I feel like I might have even I don't

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Speaker 2: know if people resent their children. I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: Sure absolutely, I just know that I was in a

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Speaker 3: Life it's given me the you know, I feel more

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Speaker 1: Not a trait that I would associate.

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Speaker 3: With parent who And certainly I can be a psycho

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Speaker 3: way better at choosing battles and figuring out when to fold.

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Speaker 1: And what's important to me and what's not. So that's

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Speaker 1: been a gift too.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible. Now I'm assuming that you have been

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Speaker 2: in relationship before.

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Speaker 1: My relationship history is not incredible.

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Speaker 2: Not incredible in that it hasn't worked out, or in

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Speaker 1: Do you have a few kind of three year deals?

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Speaker 2: Okay? I mean you're doing better than I am. Dad.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, you're doing way better. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. I imagine though, that you learned to some

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Speaker 2: patients in those relationships as well. But you're like, what's

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Speaker 2: going on with like having children in my home and

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Speaker 2: parenthood is blowing all of that out of the water.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean it's not even comparable.

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Speaker 2: Okay. And as you're raising your kids, are you looking

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Speaker 2: back at how you were raised in ways and saying

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Speaker 2: I want to emulate any of this or I really

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Speaker 3: I had great parents, okay, and they're still alive. My

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Speaker 3: they just had their sixty fifth anniversary. And they were amazing.

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Speaker 3: My mom was so reactive, and I used to love

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Speaker 3: to fuck with her, to be honest, and I just was.

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Speaker 3: I pulled so many pranks on her and I say

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Speaker 1: And I go, Ben, did you put suntan oil? I

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, no, fucking.

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Speaker 3: And so but then I real and then of course

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Speaker 2: So and you knew I was going to ask you,

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Speaker 2: are you not worried that you're children are going to

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Speaker 2: do what you did to your mom?

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Speaker 1: To you?

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Speaker 2: I am, And now you're seeing it, Ben has started.

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Speaker 2: I kind of love that, and I am sorry for you.

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Speaker 2: But you're right about karma. It does catch up to you. Really,

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Speaker 2: What was your dad like?

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Speaker 3: My dad is super mellow, just super calm kind.

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Speaker 1: My dad was a little bit like a TV dad.

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Speaker 3: My dad would okay, would say the three dreaded words

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Speaker 3: want to play catch? And I was just you know,

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Speaker 3: that was not my jam at all, Right, but I

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Speaker 3: play catch with him, like adult your father.

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Speaker 1: So my dad was great, and you know, my mom

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Speaker 1: was the My mom is a very opinionated Jewish mom.

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Speaker 1: Jewish moms wear the pants in the family.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a major Okay, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: You talk to any Jewish boy that you have on

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Speaker 3: this show, yeah, you will start to understand the psychology

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Speaker 2: Personalities every once in a while I'll meet. I feel

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Speaker 3: Funny because the Nigerian I mean the Nigerian women that

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Speaker 3: I know, I mean, you do not want to fuck.

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Speaker 1: With the Nigerian woman. You just really don't.

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Speaker 3: You don't, Now do you want a Nigerian man? Is

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Speaker 3: that important to you?

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Speaker 2: Not particularly No, is.

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Speaker 1: It important to you to be with a man of color?

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Speaker 2: This is a great question, and no, it's I would

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Speaker 2: But it's not a deal break. Yes, Andy, some people

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Speaker 2: like it? But I love that you're you're asking me

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Speaker 2: because I don't. I'm not giving she only dates white guys.

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Speaker 2: Some people assume I only date white It's rude. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, And I ask, what mean?

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Speaker 1: Just when I think that I understand the culture?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I say something like this, It's truly insane.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I have dated, I will date any kind

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Speaker 2: in terms of race, I would date any kind of man. So,

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Speaker 2: your dad's super mellow. He's kind of like a TV dad.

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Speaker 2: Mom wears the pants in the household. Would you say,

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Speaker 2: your dad, if he heard that would be upset? Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a conversation. Okay, And he's like, yeah, was his

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Speaker 3: Do you think I think his mom died when I

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Speaker 3: so I didn't know her that well, but I am

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Speaker 3: told that she was a very tough woman. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: oh for sure. That was a dynamic among his parents.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 3: Among my parents, my grandfather was actually more, he was stronger.

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Speaker 2: Really Okay, did you admire your dad when you were

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Speaker 2: growing up? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh big time?

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Speaker 2: Still and you still do. Yeah, incredible. He's ninety three,

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Speaker 2: which I'm assuming he lives a very healthy lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Does Yeah, yeah he does.

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Speaker 2: And do you emulate any of that yourself?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: How he lived.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot more TC in my system than

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Speaker 3: he ever had, you know, I mean I don't think

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Speaker 3: my dad's ever done poppers.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a gay guy. So we have different

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Speaker 1: things happening in the world.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean listen, No, my

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Speaker 3: his in his prime and athlete.

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Speaker 1: I mean he played tennis several times a week. He

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Speaker 1: was a runner. I am none of that. Go to

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Speaker 2: You look good to comment? Okay, but you do? Why

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Speaker 1: Oh? He was fascinated. They both have been. And it's

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Speaker 3: After show you a picture of him. I posted one

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's weird to be into your dad's dad.

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Speaker 3: having some fucked up relationship with your dad, I mean,

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00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: you know, I think you got to be able to

446
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 3: lean into that the positivity of.

447
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: That, Andy, I agree completely because my parents again got

448
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: divorced when I was a baby, right, And so I

449
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: don't all I know is my mom raised me. I

450
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: grew up with my siblings. Mom raised me. I don't

451
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: know any other reality. I in fact think I made

452
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: like if sixteen years old my mom had gotten remarried,

453
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 2: I think I would have been like, what, there's a

454
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 2: man in the house. I don't know if I would

455
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 2: have been able to navigate that, especially not with the

456
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: tools I had at sixteen, But like, that's just the

457
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 2: reality I knew, and I am fine with it. I

458
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: think I had a lovely childhood. I think my mom

459
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: did a great job raising us, instilled wonderful values in

460
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: each of us. She was a phenom to watch in action.

461
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: And so with your kids, in my mind, I imagine,

462
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 2: just given my experience, I go, They'll go. I have

463
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 2: a great dad, and I have a great relationship with

464
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: my dad, and that filled me up. I know that

465
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: I have friends whose parents did stay together, and I've

466
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: seen how fraud that has been for them, and what

467
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 2: kind of chaos it's really created internally for them. And

468
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: I really do think it's better to have one parent

469
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: and a peaceful home than two and it's and it's

470
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 2: madness or it's like a war zone. And this is

471
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: having never raised kids and only having had my one

472
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 2: experience and seeing other people's. But so I'm only speaking

473
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: from that point of view. But I'm like, that's the

474
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: sense I get. Now, your dad worked in food, in

475
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: the food industry, What exactly did.

476
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 3: He do with My family had a food distribution and

477
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 3: manufacturing company, So we sold food to hospitals, hotels, restaurants,

478
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 3: grocery stores, airport, you know, anywhere that sold food, institutional.

479
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: Food like okay food?

480
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: Sure? Was that something you would say was passionate about?

481
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: No?

482
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, So he wasn't doing a thing he

483
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: was passionate about. Why would you say? Yes?

484
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: I think he did it because it was my mom's

485
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 3: family's business and they offered him a job.

486
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: He was working in insurance before that, which I know

487
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 1: that he was not passionate about either. So yeah, he

488
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: was not passionate about it, but.

489
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: He did it.

490
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: He did it. Yeah.

491
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: Do you know what a passion of his is?

492
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I mean sports?

493
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: Sports?

494
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: He was majorly major.

495
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: I think he would have wanted to go pro.

496
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: No, I mean he was not at that level.

497
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: But I think what would a passion of his been professionally?

498
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: Look, I think that.

499
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: His generation, he's ninety three, you know, his generation was

500
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 3: a generation where it wasn't about following your passion in life.

501
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: It was about having a good job and supporting your family.

502
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 3: And that's kind of you know what it was. I mean,

503
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 3: I so, I just think it was a different time.

504
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: Sure, I would love.

505
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: To ask him, and I will ask him today if

506
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: he could have done any job, what would he have done?

507
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what I'm curious. You guys can talk

508
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 2: about anything, can't. Yeah, that's beautiful.

509
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

510
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 2: Does he text?

511
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? He does.

512
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 3: We have a family text chain. We were texting during

513
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: the debate the other night. We were texting about We

514
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: text each other our wordle score every day.

515
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: Yes, sweet Andy, what a dreamy life?

516
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: Sweet?

517
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I love that so much. Do

518
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: you have any memories of him showing up as a

519
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: disciplinarian to you?

520
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: Not really? You know, I was. My mouth was always

521
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: getting me in trouble. And I remember.

522
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: Once I got an exam, a final exam biology exam,

523
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: ripped up after I had turned it in because I

524
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 3: talked to someone else who had turned theirs in. And

525
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: once I I got kicked off the water polo team

526
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: the day before our last game for talking while the

527
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 3: coach was talking. He clearly headed in for me. But

528
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: in both instances, my mom kind of forced my father

529
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 3: to like get involved and go to the school on

530
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: my behalf.

531
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Speaker 1: Try to get these ruling has changed.

532
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 3: There was some success with the exam, but I could

533
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: not get reinstated on the water.

534
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: Water this is this is in high school. The water

535
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: polo coach really had an issue.

536
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: He really did coach.

537
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: And you never forget their names. You never forget.

538
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: And I was.

539
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: Honored by my high school at some big event a

540
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: few years ago, and I was making a speech, and

541
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: of course I told that story, and I think the

542
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: nanatorium is named after this guy now.

543
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: And I was saying to a friend recently, what if.

544
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: I was like, I will give you a million dollars

545
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: to take his name off that nandatorium and put my

546
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: name on it.

547
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: And I bet they would do it.

548
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: I bet they would. Most people would do a lot

549
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 2: for anything for a million dollars. And if it's just

550
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: switching out a name, I mean, of course I kind

551
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: of want you to.

552
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: It would be the ultimate troll.

553
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, is he he's maybe not still love?

554
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: Is he still he's dead? Okay? But still his family

555
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: would know that would be so in one in one

556
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: case he had success. In another case he did not.

557
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: What was your mom's response to that when was she

558
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: like victory or it's like you did your part, you

559
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: went and you went and did what.

560
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: I was curious about the water polo too, I mean

561
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: my dad and I had gotten.

562
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: Over it before. She yeah, yeah, to get.

563
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: Your mom, I get it. And so now you have

564
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: your own kids, and do you hope to emulate your

565
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: dad in so many ways?

566
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, I think.

567
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: Uh, you know one thing that I mean my dad

568
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: was my dad. My dad is very impatient. That's something

569
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: that I would like not to and he was. Sometimes

570
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: his impatience would drive him to kind of lose his temper,

571
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: but he was never really losing his temper at us

572
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: my mom.

573
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: Yes, but yeah, I think that there.

574
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: Was a steadiness about him that I would like to emulate.

575
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: Are you impatient at all?

576
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: Yes? I am, Okay, yeah, and I can be.

577
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, having kids, it's a test of

578
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: your patience. But again, I think doing it at an

579
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: older age really helped me.

580
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: I think that I am just a little more like okay,

581
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: well I have nowhere else to be like, you know.

582
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, we are right. Yeah, what kind of

583
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: things are most stressful to you? About being a dad.

584
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: My son not listening to me. It's really just a

585
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: drag to have your kids.

586
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: Just not listen and trying to get them to do

587
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: whatever you want them to do.

588
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: And I think that there's a lack of control that

589
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: is really upsetting.

590
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, kids are wild and you just

591
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: cannot It's hard to control them, you know.

592
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: It's like especially, I think it's about to get easier.

593
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: In that sense, but it will become mentally tougher because

594
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: it's going to be a battle of the wits.

595
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: And are your kids demonstrating some real wits?

596
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: Okay, my son is really smart, and yeah, I can

597
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: tell he's gonna be really formidable. And my daughter can

598
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: be a bit of a drama queen sometimes, so I

599
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: just think I'm in for it.

600
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you're used to drama queens. I too, so

601
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: you know how you're gonna know how to have kids.

602
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: Have made me more patient with the housewives, and the

603
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: housewives have made me more patient.

604
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: With the kids really, so the father daddy, it's real.

605
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: Do any of the housewives comment that they recognize that

606
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: you're you've become more patient?

607
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Has I think so? Yeah? Viewers do, Okay, viewers see

608
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: me on the reunion shows, they.

609
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: Say, oh, look he's But then then I'll be at

610
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: a Jersey reunion and I'll totally lose my mind.

611
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: So you know, what can I say?

612
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: Jersey Jersey was by I just have to tell you

613
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: my og favorite favor. I'm like Jersey from the ground,

614
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: like I love that floor. Yes, I still quote Teresa

615
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: and Danielle. I quote both of them frequently in my eyes.

616
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: Yes.

617
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: So what is the most enjoyable part about being a dad?

618
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: For you?

619
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: It is what is the most enjoyable?

620
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: I think just the unconditional love and sweetness.

621
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: And you know, this morning I went I woke Ben

622
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: up and he was just like he was just immediately

623
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: like I love you, daddy. I love you so much,

624
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: Like we say I love you to each other so much.

625
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: And it's so nice. And I'm single right now and

626
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 3: I'm kind of I get such love bombs from my kids.

627
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: It's amazing. I mean, I have a child run across

628
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: the room to hug you when you see each other

629
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: for the first time that day. I mean it's like,

630
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: you know when you do get that every day I.

631
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Do, and so it's amazing.

632
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: You know, have you introduced part or I had a

633
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: serious boyfriend.

634
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so since I've had the kids, so now I haven't.

635
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: Do you have a rule around when the timeline I think.

636
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: It'll I think it will. I think it will be determined.

637
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: You know, I'll figure it out.

638
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: Do you still want partnership?

639
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love it, but I mean it's become

640
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: less important.

641
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'm become sex positive person.

642
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so but like, yes, I need a I need

643
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: a guy. I mean I would like a guy, but

644
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: I'm pretty I have to say I now, I just

645
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: feel like the older I.

646
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Get, the more said in my ways I am. And

647
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, relationships are about compromise. And I even now

648
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: look at my homes.

649
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: You know, I had a boyfriend when I bought my

650
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: first home who was ten years younger than me. Uh

651
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: and he was like, well, I don't want to move

652
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: in with you because that's not a place we got together.

653
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, you're a fucking Broadway chorus boy.

654
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm now waiting for you to buy an apartment. Yeah, yeah,

655
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: you know. So like, of course I always date the

656
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: guys that don't want me to kind of provide for them. Interesting,

657
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: of course I do because I'm not interested in someone

658
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: who's like looking to be on the gravy train right right.

659
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: On the other hand, like, you know, it would be nice.

660
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it would be great if someone

661
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'll.

662
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: Move in, right. I don't want the people. I'm just

663
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: looking for someone to take care of me. That's not

664
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: a cha that's not right. You have to be careful.

665
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: I feel like it's someone what would be right as

666
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: someone who's like, Okay, I have goals and ambitions, but

667
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Andy wants to take care of me

668
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: and make my life a little easier.

669
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not, by the way, I'm not looking to

670
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: take care of me.

671
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 6: Okay, let's be clear, say what are you looking for it?

672
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 6: Can you look at the camera tell hem no. But

673
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 6: I'm just saying in terms of that, my last boyfriend

674
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 6: was younger than me and I didn't have.

675
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: A it was my pleasure to like, look, I go

676
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: out to dinner a lot, so it was my pleasure

677
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: to just take us to dinner all the time.

678
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: It shouldn't feel like it did not feel.

679
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: Like a power dynamic in our relationship that I was

680
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: paying for dinner. It felt like I was like, you know,

681
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: and occasionally like, yes, I would like you to pay

682
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: for dinner, and he would, but it wasn't like anything.

683
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: But I think every so often he felt you know,

684
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: I would be like, let's go to so and so

685
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: for dinner, and you'd be like. He would feel bad

686
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: because he was like, I don't want you to always

687
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: feel like you have to pay for me for dinner.

688
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: That you know.

689
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: It was great, But.

690
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: On the other hand, it did add a element to

691
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: our relationship that didn't exist in my mind.

692
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I just want to go have fun.

693
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: With your thinking about that now exactly, but I do

694
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: want someone who's conscious of it.

695
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: So it's a weird.

696
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: It is interesting because I know my friend and I

697
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 2: and I were just talking about someone we know who

698
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: is like a princess and is sort of like, I

699
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: won't pull.

700
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: Out my card.

701
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: I'm just not doing it. It's not happening.

702
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: And she kind of is also different between a woman

703
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: and a man.

704
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: I know, and I'm going to ask you advice about

705
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: this at the end of this episode, because end every

706
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: episode asking my dad for a piece of advice, and

707
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: I do need advice from you. But she's like, I

708
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: won't pull out my card. The people she's talking about,

709
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: she won't pull her card out with. There's like two guys,

710
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: two guys who are like the friend I was talking

711
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 2: to is a gay guy. They it's just a group

712
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: of people that hang out and she hangs out these

713
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: two gay guys and they're.

714
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: Will pull out her card. Yeah, well she needs to.

715
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: She needs to pull her card up.

716
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: Is she at the table?

717
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 3: No?

718
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: Okay?

719
00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: Exactly?

720
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: Were love it for you in your dating life? I guess,

721
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: I guess, but like honey, and he's like, I'm not sure, man,

722
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: I'm not your mom. I am a man, but I'm

723
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: not sure a man. So you need to pull your

724
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: card out. And I also agree. But I say this

725
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: to say that that notion that she's like I will

726
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 2: not is pervasive through her life, and I think those

727
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: are the ones to look out for personally. Yes, Whereas

728
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: like a person who's like, oh yeah, I'd like to

729
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: be treated if Andy wants to treat me, that's so kind.

730
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: I say this, they should certainly be expressing gratitude, and

731
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: I say thank you.

732
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: I have not the expectation.

733
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. In terms of manners for your kids, what

734
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: are some manners that you are trying to instill.

735
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: In them cleaning up after themselves, cleaning their room. I mean,

736
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: you know, my daughter's too, so she's you know, sitting

737
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: in a diaper, but you know, cleaning up after themselves.

738
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I had, I had a job. I

739
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: had summer.

740
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: Jobs, like from when I was young.

741
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: I it's hard because we have a really nice apartment

742
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: and we have a beach house, and I do not

743
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 3: want them to be spoiled.

744
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: I was not spoiled. I was really told the value

745
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 1: of a dollar and made to respect it, and.

746
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: I don't want It's also it's so weird because I

747
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: get sent a lot of stuff.

748
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: I get sent so many toys and.

749
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: Stuff for them, and most of it I wind up

750
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: giving away to charities because I don't want.

751
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: Them to, you know.

752
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: I think that's that's an interesting thing because I've thought about, like, oh,

753
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: my childhood is going to look different, which is me.

754
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: It is going to look different from that of the

755
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: children I have because of the position I'm in, And

756
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, how does one actually navigate that? Because I

757
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: don't feel like I grew up thinking the world revolved

758
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: around me, Especially like single mom, it's like she has

759
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: to work, she can't come to my ballet recital. And

760
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: as tragic as that sounds, guys, I think it was

761
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: totally okay, and it.

762
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: Let me know that sometimes you have to really trying to.

763
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: I don't let them win, you know, at everything. I don't,

764
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: you know, I mean in terms of like just little

765
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 3: battles or whatever getting their way.

766
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: So I mean I do. There are a lot of

767
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: rules in my house for them.

768
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: They they get timeouts if they're if they talk bad

769
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: or whatever. So yeah, yeah, there there's a level of

770
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 3: discipline that needs that is happening in my house.

771
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: Does it feel like a lot of pressure for you

772
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: Andy to be like I'm their one parent? Yes, it does.

773
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: It's something that especially for the first few years of

774
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: having been it was really.

775
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: I did not have my sea legs about that.

776
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: Especially as sel like went to nursery school. I felt

777
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: so I felt very vulnerable going to parent nights and stuff.

778
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: I was like, first of all, I'm famous, so I

779
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 3: feel weird. Yes, Second of all, I'm like the only

780
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: gay guy in the room, and I'm the only single

781
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: parent in the room. So it's like, you know, but

782
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: I feel very confident in myself.

783
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: As a parent. And who I am and who I

784
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: am to them and you know it, but.

785
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: It is it is hard being I am like the

786
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: good cop and the bad cop all in right, So

787
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 3: that is really hard.

788
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what changed in terms of your confidence because of

789
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: the vulnerability you're describing going to like parent teacher night. Yeah,

790
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't have kids, but even the like oh walking

791
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: into a space and it's like, oh, you're all looking

792
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: at me because I'm famous, that resonates to some extent.

793
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, how did you make the shift

794
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: now to feeling confident and being like owning this whole experience?

795
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: I think just doing it, you know what I mean? Yeah,

796
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you know.

797
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: It's never as it's never as hard as it is

798
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: the first time.

799
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: And so I've now done it a few times, you know,

800
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: and it also everything.

801
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: But listen, he's in this nursery school for two years

802
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 3: and then it's done. I just and again I think

803
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: it's it's it's about being like a later in life dad.

804
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, well this is not the be all

805
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: end all. Here's this now and.

806
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: Let's you know, I just have to make sure my

807
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: kid is safe and learns manners, and you know, it

808
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: was a good person, so you know, I'll do that.

809
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: I was getting him from his last day of nursery school.

810
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: He's in kindergarten now, last May, and this mom was

811
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: like we were waiting to go pick the kids up,

812
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: and she was in front with me and she was

813
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: super emotional and she's like, I don't think I'm gonna

814
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: be able to.

815
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: Keep it together, like it's the last day in nursery school.

816
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: And I go, You're gonna be fun. This is not

817
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: a big deal.

818
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: And of course I went in and they're like, okay,

819
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: you can clean his coby out. And I'm cleaning his

820
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: coby out and I'm like, look at all these art projects.

821
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: I start sobbing. No for no, I didn't care.

822
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: I start putting these away and I'm getting emotional. And

823
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: then I went and got him in the in the

824
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 3: yard and then he went over with me to say

825
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: goodbye to his teacher and he's like thank you. And

826
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: then we're walking out and we're holding hands and I

827
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: was i my sunglasses on.

828
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: I was sobbing.

829
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 3: I was like and then we walk out and we're

830
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: walking down the street and he doesn't see that I'm

831
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: crying because I'm like keeping it in and then he goes,

832
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: wait a minute, daddy, am I never going back to

833
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 3: that school?

834
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: And then I, oh no, And then he just turned

835
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: to me and gave me the biggest tuget was.

836
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: Like, very my goodness. Kids are so comforting. Who yeah,

837
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: but they're so intuitive in that way. It's so that's

838
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: really really special. I mean, is it really important for

839
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: you to show up as much as you can for

840
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: all of those milestones like that?

841
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? I and I I weirdly I've been able to

842
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: for most of them.

843
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: Is it one of those later in life things where

844
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: you're like, I have established enough and you are yeah.

845
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: I mean, look if I have a reunion show on

846
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: the day of our recital, and I'm going to.

847
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: Go to the reunion show, okay, I support that to

848
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: be clear that you asked my opinion, and I'm like

849
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 2: a girl working, I'm like, yeah, I now everything.

850
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: I will send someone else.

851
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 3: There was a Christmas recital or something at his nursery.

852
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: School, and I sent his godmother and I couldn't go.

853
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 3: And then the next year I went and the teacher said,

854
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you were able to make it. I

855
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: remember last year you weren't here, and I was like

856
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: what And I was like, by the way, I had

857
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: forgotten that I wasn't and Ben had probably completely and

858
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: by the way, it sucks, like I was like, this

859
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: is what it was to get a cookie, you know.

860
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well that was fine, Like it

861
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: was twenty minutes.

862
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm glad you look up that. That was a little

863
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: shady granny.

864
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: Also in my mind was like, would you be saying

865
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: that to a mom? Like a single would not be

866
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: saying that. There's some hits I take for being like

867
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: a gay guy. People don't know what to say to me,

868
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: so they say.

869
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: The wrong they say they say the absolute wrong thing,

870
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: and they don't think it through and go would you

871
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: say that to a single mom? Would you say that

872
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: to a mom? Would you say that to a working mom?

873
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you would, or if you did, you'd

874
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: know you'd get some you get some pushback on that

875
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: if you did. Do they have they have like an

876
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: amazing nanny they do, okay, And how heavily do you

877
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: rely on? Yeah? What a god sent?

878
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 3: By the way, it's a it is a ah.

879
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: It truly does take a village. And I have friends

880
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: in the building. And I have good my good girlfriends,

881
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: Jeanie and Jackie. My dad is Jackie is his godmother.

882
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: Those years ago, and so I mean he's the Other

883
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: thing that's so important for me for my kids is

884
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: that they're surrounded by strong women because.

885
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: I want them. They don't have a mom, but I

886
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: want them to have a lot of strong women in

887
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: their lives. And they do and they love them.

888
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I well, so when I'm saying like not wasn't

889
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: raised by a dad. I wasn't raised by a dad,

890
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: just my mom. But I had a lot of male

891
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: figures in my life and my uncles and such, and

892
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: they were fantastic. And so I also don't have this

893
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: sort of like TV movie trope of like and now

894
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: I hate.

895
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: Men and I have they're bad.

896
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

897
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: I had a lot of wonderful men around me when

898
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: I was growing up. I was so grateful for that.

899
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: Is there anything you're so absolutely nervous about with your kids,

900
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: like driving? What that's going to be like once they

901
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: learn their New Yorkers?

902
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know. I mean that's now,

903
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: that's eleven years away.

904
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: Okay, you have time drive?

905
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeahah, I have time for that, Yeah, the phones

906
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: make me nervous.

907
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 3: Phones and we've seen how phones mess up kids.

908
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: And there's a whole generation of kids were super anxious.

909
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: Right now because of their relationship with social media and phones,

910
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: and so that's that worries me. And I'm hoping because

911
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: there are so many kind of that this is now

912
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: a whole movement against kids with phones. I'm hoping that

913
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: by the time he's in.

914
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: Seventh grade, there's that's really changed.

915
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is when I got my first phone, which

916
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: is I had the Nokia brick phone. I don't but

917
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: you couldn't really do anything exactly, couldn't do anything on it.

918
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: But I think about this too. Not a parent here,

919
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: I've said it a million times, everyone knows, but I'm like,

920
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: if I didn't want my kid to be like addicted

921
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: to their phone, and I wanted them to have a

922
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: childhood that looked a little bit more like mine. Yes,

923
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: before phones were such a thing, they'd go outside and

924
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: me playing and make things up. Yes, how bad would

925
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: I feel with holding a phone from them?

926
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Though?

927
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: If nine the class makes it.

928
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: I know, Yeah, that's why it would be great if

929
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: this is a whole yeh movement.

930
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, hope. So I'm hoping for the future that made

931
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 2: the kids have that. Is there something that's really important

932
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: to you to in part to your children and you know,

933
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: cleaning up after themselves. We know you want to teach

934
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: them manners, but in terms of like a piece of

935
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 2: advice or wisdom that you want your children to walk

936
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 2: through this world with.

937
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: I think it's about valuing money and respecting all people.

938
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

939
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom always my mom was like she worked

940
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: with juvenile delinquents.

941
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: She made us come to this Juvie center she.

942
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: Worked at with all these bad kids because she wanted

943
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: to see.

944
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: What would happen. Yeah, she wanted to show us. Yeah

945
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: you know this is what happens.

946
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we so, I mean, I think just and

947
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: I think that's why I.

948
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: Think living in New York is a great you know,

949
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: melting pot.

950
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: Yes, are you going to encourage them to take public transportation?

951
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

952
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, already Okay, yes, people, I still ride the train,

953
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: Andy And yeah, okay, cool. Why do people Okay, see

954
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was worth mentioning, but yeah, so

955
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: many people go, oh you still ride the train. You

956
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 2: ride the train, And I go, why the fast I've lived.

957
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 3: In New York for twenty years before I was famous,

958
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 3: and so I'm like, I'm not going to start start

959
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 3: living differently now famous. This is I go to serious

960
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: XM twice a week, and I take the subway because

961
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: it's the.

962
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: Fastest way to get there.

963
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've run.

964
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: I take the subway to the theater, you know, Yeah,

965
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: of course.

966
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I lived in LA for twelve years and there

967
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: is no public transportation. Well I guess there is, but

968
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: it's not reliable, right, And so I'm like, I love

969
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: the fact that the train is available to me too. Andy,

970
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: You've been an amazing dad. Thank you to Lucy, Ben

971
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: and me, thank you, and then the world. I end

972
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: each episode asking for a piece of dad vice. I

973
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 2: came up with that today at midnight, wrote it down

974
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: because I said, I'm gonna forget this. Yes, so, but

975
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: I asked everyone for a piece of dadvice. Something going

976
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: on in my life, or not going on in my life,

977
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: but something I'm contemplating that I think a dad could

978
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: help guide me in the right direction on. And you

979
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: may or may not be an expert, but you have

980
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: to at least pretend to be an expert. I am

981
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: out of the dating game. Let's just start there. But

982
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 2: should I re enter the dating game?

983
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: Do you want a boyfriend? Yeah?

984
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yes, I think you just answered no.

985
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: No, let's dial back.

986
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's I think we need to

987
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: figure out what do you want from your life?

988
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: You frozen your eggs?

989
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: Yes?

990
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: Is your goal to have children with someone else? Or

991
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: is your goal to have children as a single mom.

992
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: I thought I would be open to being a single mom, okay,

993
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: and then I this is gonna sound basic, but I

994
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: but it's just the truth. And then I got a

995
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: okay by myself, a puppy. A puppy he was, and

996
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: I go, oh no, I can't do this on my own.

997
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, well you know a puppy is a good

998
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 3: gateway to children.

999
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: Because he teaches you. Okay, I have to think about

1000
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: someone else before myself.

1001
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: And blah blah, yeah plans.

1002
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 3: So I think that.

1003
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: Listen.

1004
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: I think if your goal is to raise children with

1005
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 3: someone else, then I think you need to put.

1006
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: Yourself on Raya.

1007
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: Raya. But Raya is like Instagram. There's nothing going on.

1008
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: People go on there for dopamine hits. And do you

1009
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: have anyone you want to set me up with?

1010
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't.

1011
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: I'm on but let me say this. I'm on Raya, Hinge, Tinder,

1012
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: I'm on everything and.

1013
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: Do people to report your profile though, And that's not really.

1014
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: I've been reported on Grinder a.

1015
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: Lot, not for bad behavior, just like this isn't really.

1016
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: The Grinder.

1017
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: What happens.

1018
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I've been reported there. But I think you

1019
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: can either get verified on Hinge.

1020
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: I may be verified on Hinge. You can get verified

1021
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: on Tinder. I'm on Tinder, and the thing about it is,

1022
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 3: there are you know. I've been after Gail King forever

1023
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: who really wants a man? And I've been like, you

1024
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: need to get on the apps. And the thing is

1025
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: there's no shame in it, and you only interact with

1026
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 3: people who you both have swiped on, so it's like

1027
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: there's no rejection. It's only only oh, I matched with

1028
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: that person, you know what I mean. So I think

1029
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: that it is it may be a good exercise for

1030
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: you to consider going on an app and swiping around

1031
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: to me and.

1032
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: This guy looks you know, this guy looks interesting.

1033
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: I have a question.

1034
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: I think it will hold on.

1035
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: I think it will be a very positive exercise for

1036
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: you to follow through on saying yes, I will meet

1037
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 3: you for a drink.

1038
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: Don't meet anyone for dinner. And I'm not sure I

1039
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't meant anyone.

1040
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: For coffe And I would always say, just listen, I

1041
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: can meet you for a drink, but I have a

1042
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: dinner to go to.

1043
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: And then and you just keep it to an hour.

1044
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: Then you always have an out yes, okay, okay.

1045
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: And then you also drinks loosen us up. And for me,

1046
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: I always go in with my guard up a little bit,

1047
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: and after I have a little drink, I start to

1048
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: look at the person as a person and I'm like,

1049
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: you know what, this person seems kind or they seem smart,

1050
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: or I can I'm able to see some attributes about

1051
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: that person that me, with all my walls maybe would

1052
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: not be.

1053
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: Able to see.

1054
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so have a drink and loosen up. Get okay, well,

1055
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: first get on the apps. You go out for a drink,

1056
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: not dinner. This is funny because I was always like,

1057
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: it's got to be dinner I deserve. But even if

1058
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm like really enjoying it, and it's just I should

1059
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: keep it to an hour.

1060
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: Like no, no, if you if you're with someone and

1061
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: you're actually having a great time, and you're like, you

1062
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: know what, like this is a real person and we

1063
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: are really connecting.

1064
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: Then you absolutely say, you know what, I don't have

1065
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: a dinner. I lied? Do you want to get something

1066
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: to eat? That's all?

1067
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 2: Okay? How are people reacting when you go I lied?

1068
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: Are they fine? They're like, okay, ha, ha's funny.

1069
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: Usually one more. Yeah, No, they're they like it.

1070
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: They're happy because it means, oh, we have more time.

1071
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: You know, means you're validating whatever is happening there.

1072
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, see I My thing is I find it.

1073
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: I find for I feel like Riya is just better

1074
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: for dudes, right.

1075
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: I know, I think Raya is ridiculous, and I think

1076
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: you're totally right about Ryo. Rya is basically Instagram Instagram, Right,

1077
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: So Instagram is a great way to meet guys, and

1078
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: I do what do I do?

1079
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: Send a fire emoji? Okay, yeah you do. I have

1080
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 1: sent more.

1081
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: And by the way, I've met some really like hot

1082
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: good guys on Instagram for me sending a fire emoji.

1083
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: Send a fire emotion and a fire.

1084
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: Emoji, and then maybe send uh the next thing that

1085
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: says too much question mark and see how they respond.

1086
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: Wait, Okay, I like this. I like this. Do I

1087
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: need to follow as well? Or can I just say?

1088
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: Are you private or public?

1089
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm public? Yeah, oh too?

1090
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: And then it.

1091
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 3: Will go in their thing and if they're checking their people,

1092
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: who don't you know dms from people, someone will be

1093
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: flattered to get a fucking fire emoji from you.

1094
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Andy. But here's another question because now, okay, so,

1095
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 2: because everything you're saying, it's counter to what my intuition

1096
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: says I should do. So if I'm not going to follow,

1097
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: but I've watched their story, you think that's fine? If

1098
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: they can tell I watch their story, but I don't

1099
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: follow them, her cares. Okay.

1100
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: So the thing about it is.

1101
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: It's all one big who cares to me? Because like,

1102
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: you have no skin in the game. You don't know

1103
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: this person so great and he's going to tell his

1104
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: friends that you watch your story.

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Speaker 1: Great, dude, go think about that and be excited about it.

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Speaker 1: What do I care?

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Speaker 3: You're never thinking of this person again if you see

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00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: something you don't like, Like, there's no people take I

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00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: think especially women. I have some girlfriends who I'm like.

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Speaker 1: Why is this? This doesn't this is all meaningless.

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Speaker 3: Until it's not so until it's not. You're in control,

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Speaker 3: you own it. You're on the fishing hunt everyone. You

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Speaker 3: don't have to be vulnerable, you don't have to be.

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Speaker 1: You're in control, and you you just go on your

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Speaker 1: scavenger hunt. You go looking for your guy, and you

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Speaker 1: go get what it is. Okay, you want?

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Speaker 2: Can I say that I like that way of thinking.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to approach dating that way. But then there's

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Speaker 2: a part of me that goes as a woman who

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Speaker 2: is pretty alpha, and I think would enjoy a man

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Speaker 2: who took a little bit more initiative and took charge

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00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: and was alpha, could kind of make me be allow

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00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: me to be a little more beta in the dynamic.

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Speaker 2: I worry about initiating, either turning them off or even

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Speaker 2: initiating and setting now the tone that is like I'm

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Speaker 2: the If it's.

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Speaker 1: The right guy, then you'll figure out your rhythm.

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Speaker 2: Ok.

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Speaker 3: You have to get in the game, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. I understand that that's I think a super

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00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 3: valid point, But I think if if this guy, I

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00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: think any guy would be like fuck yeah, look I

1133
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 3: just got a finer emoji from her, like this is amazing.

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Speaker 3: So I think that that would be that's the right response.

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00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 3: And if some guy is so all up in himself

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Speaker 3: that's like this girl's reaching out to me, then you

1137
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: don't want that person, so you can you know, then

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00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: that's not gonna work, right of course. And I think

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Speaker 3: that every all the platelets will fall in place once

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00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: you start to talk with a person and you can

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00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: say to someone, look, I'm not usually this forward, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I thought you were handsome, and I you know, you're

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Speaker 3: not looking at my profiles. So here you go.

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Speaker 2: Andy, You're going to get me in the game. You're

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00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: going to get me. Think it okay, all right?

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Speaker 3: I like your head, you know, take all those preconceived

1147
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 3: notions of what a woman should do that doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Exist anymore, right, you just go for it.

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00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you froze your eggs. You're in control.

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Speaker 2: I actually am. And it has been nice to go.

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00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: There's no rush now, it's true. And I get to

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00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: do this in the timing that I like and I need.

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Speaker 2: I get to truly take my time to find the

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00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: right person. True, and that feels nice and empowering. Andy,

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Speaker 2: you have been an amazing dad for the day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You're a great daddy. Did that it was like sexy?

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Speaker 2: Why was my dad so sexy? Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: Andy for being here?

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Speaker 1: Can I kiss you? Just kidding? Yes? He made he.

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course. Thanks. Dat is a Headgum podcast

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Speaker 2: created and hosted by me Ago Wodhem. The show is

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Speaker 2: produced and edited by Anita Flores and engineered by Anita

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Speaker 2: Flores and Anya Kanevskaya, with executive producer Emma Foley. Katie

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Speaker 2: Moose is our VP of Content and Headgum special thanks

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Speaker 2: to Jason Atheni for our show Aren't and Paris Mashi

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