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Speaker 1: Well, I invited.

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Speaker 2: You here, thought I made myself perfectly clear, But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come to be empty.

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Speaker 1: And I said, no guests, your presences presence, and.

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Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff.

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Speaker 1: So how did you dare.

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Speaker 2: To surbey me?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridget Winnecker, and I'm so happy you're here. Another week is passed. We're all slipping and sliding towards death, but that's fine because we're just doing our best. And I'm so excited today for our guest. I don't need to introduce this person. This is Andy Richter. Hello. Andy, I'm so happier here. Thank you, Bridger.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here too, and I feel positively electrified by your setup.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Well, I want you to feel happy and just you know, right right, you know, thinking bright thought, it's all.

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Speaker 4: But honestly, the inevitability of death is something that you might as well get over.

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Speaker 3: Well why not just embrace it? Yes, yeah, and look forward to yes, rather than we're not going to avoid it precisely. I mean maybe ten years from now to like a generation from now, people will be able to avoid it I'm happy to die. I feel like I'd get bored with immortality. I yeah, I mean that's that. Yeah, I think immortality would be I mean it would like imagine if you went to a party and they said it'll never end in you and never leave. Oh my god. Can you imagine if you if you took me to a party and said it's going to be an hour and a half. Yes, and I can't pass out yet. To stay until one am unbelievable. It's not nish. I need twenty minutes and I'm out precisely, and I'm going back home for my treats. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how are you? I'm pretty good, Actually, I'm pretty good. Had a change in medication recently, which has beau, which has been fortuitous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what changes have you seen? Uh?

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Speaker 4: The slight it's like, you know, like if you know, like a roller blind, Sure you have hopelessness?

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Speaker 3: Is the blind? Okay? Sure one cranked it up? If you now? Oh gorgeous. I can actually see out of light and exactly I look out and I see Burbank. It may be mourning, or it may be like maybe the darkness is coming back. It's like five thirty pm. That's a long, long day.

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Speaker 4: Right, it may be it may be morning. It maybe a nuclear blast, Oh may it may be klea lights really something. I just see something coming out that's not the miserable hopelessness. That sounds beautiful. Can I ask you what medication it is?

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 4: I am beginning on something called trent licks.

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Speaker 3: Trent Licks. I haven't heard of it. It's a new one. It's a new uh. I'm on. Well Buttrin also, okay, well Buttrin friend's been recommending this man, but he says it makes them a little dizzy.

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Speaker 4: There are all different kinds of I mean, I've been on antidepressants, oh gosh, for many, many, many many, I mean twenty five years. Sure, and I've been through many different ones with varying like there was one and I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a good memory.

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Speaker 4: For specifics, okay, of like names or your numbers, Like I don't like numbers. I'm just terrible with like like what my car payment is. If you told me my car payment was three hundred and seventy five dollars, I'd go okay. And I mean I heard sure when I got my car, they said, here's what your car of course, and you could tell me it was three hundred and seventy five dollars or seven hundred and thirty five dollars or six hundred and one, and I'd be like, Okay, sounds good. I don't know, you know, I mean I am. I do have the entitlement of being a financial baby in that I have someone else write the checks for That's the dream.

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Speaker 3: Where yes, I have a please take care of this stressful part of Yes, most people's lives I got.

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Speaker 4: I started that. Oh geez, maybe fifteen years ago. I started to have somebody and it's just a dream.

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Speaker 3: This is what I need because money and all of this makes me so it sends me into a full panic immediately. Yes, I feel like I'm gonna get in trouble with somebody. Yes, someone's going to be mad at me. Yes, tax is the same thing. I'm like, someone's coming after me. If there's any legal element, even a small one percent chance that I'm going to someone's gonna yell at me, Yes, I freak out, and then I just I freeze up and don't do it.

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Speaker 4: One of the main things too, that is that because we used to have we used to take care of it. Ourselves, uh is medical paperwork? And then I have two children. Sure it's not just it's not just me, and it's not just going now my ex wife, but it was that we had children, and children go to the doctor all the time.

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Speaker 3: They're addicted to it, they're obsessed. Oh my god, they're just like kypochondriacts with their vaccinations. And the thing with children is you have to keep them alive, whereas yourself. Yes, exactly, I'll die in my apartmental.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean people, if you are not taking care of yourself, people, I mean, they may judge you, but they're certainly most of them are going to keep it to themselves. But if you are openly not treating your children, well some know it all's going.

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Speaker 3: To some nosing. Sure, because you've got to feed that kid. Feed that kid. It's eating rocks.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so that's I mean that not having to handle insurance paperwork, because that was the thing where I was just always.

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Speaker 3: Just at a terrible loss of course, no idea, Well you need to take a class. There are so many terms, so many things that you just have no other reason to understand. This to me is like in high school, I took maybe twelve classes that taught me how to microwave food recipes. I did not take a single class that taught me anything about taxes or any right, So yeah, I mean, I guess I can just blame the country when I'm headed to jail, it's right. But when you're sick and anything loaded into a paddy wag of course. Of course, Well you're an early guest on this podcast. Yes, that's what. You're a recent podcaster, I am. I just started. Well, yeah, well I it's probably been what almost a year? Year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I just noticed I think the twenty ninth one went up today. Oh my god, congratulations, thank you, and I did it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably it's been about a year, and I had, I had. I'm not a big podcast consumer. Sure, I listened to some, but not a lot.

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Speaker 4: And usually and I don't just sort of browse. It's usually because it's somebody I knows. Pod Sure, Sure, you know, I'm I'm your learning tastes. You know, I'm only here because I had my people vet you.

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Speaker 3: Of course early. My name was passed by thirty people before you even considered that's right.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I mean, well I heard Mormon. I was like all right, that's good. That's we're sixty percent of the way there. Let's be very clear.

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Speaker 3: Parents are Mormons, all right, I mean of Mormon stock, of Mormon stock, but you know, homosexual forced out of the fold.

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Speaker 4: So if they were honest with themselves, sure, I mean listen, they'd.

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Speaker 3: Realize, they would, things would be more clear. Brigham Young probably a major queen. I recently learned, Well, maybe it's maybe Brigham Young is one of his many children, was like a famous drag performer in like the late nineteenth century. What I wish I knew anything else about that? Wow? But like clearly like a closeted game egg that was out like singing opera in full drag. Wow. Hopefully it's married and had eight hundred sure either that or deeply alone and just wanting to die. But we've all had that experience, fun, we sure have. Well I'm not the drag oh I have I have? Only I've done drag, but only for money, okay, well of course not for joy, of course. No, what have you done drag?

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Speaker 4: Well, just like forbids of course, dressing up like Emmelda Marcos or something, which I do feel there is something, There is something very very useful to making a man go through that process. Oh yeah, just learn the.

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Speaker 3: Pain all the ship.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, because I wear making, I have to have makeup put on four days and.

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Speaker 3: Was sure to be on telling we all know you can overdo it. I do. I mean a lot of people. I Look.

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Speaker 4: What I do is that I have a terra cotta pot that I hold up next to my face to match the tone precisely.

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Speaker 3: But only the face neck down blind right, exactly exactly. It's hard to wash off. Of course. You know I don't want to. I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get it on the shirt. But I that makeup that I get is nothing compared to.

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Speaker 5: Of course, it's like it's it's like the facsimile of an idealized human face that a woman has to put on to just be sort of accepted by ninety eight percent.

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Speaker 3: Yes, unity, you're spending an hour each morning as presentable. And also the goddamn heels. High heels are a fucking torture. Oh it's there. It's time to say goodbye. Yes, I feel like we all just get on the same page. It's not doing anything for anyone at this point.

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Speaker 4: There's a new Wonder Woman trailer out. Oh sure, and there's there's a shot that's it's a low angle shot behind her as she like is whipping out her golden lasso or something at somebody.

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Speaker 3: And she has a gold stacked heel like an Amazon of amazontical warrior, who were famous for cutting off their right breast so.

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Speaker 4: It would get out of the way. They would make archery more easy. Sure, sure that an Amazon warrior would be like, you know.

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Speaker 3: A little bit a lift. I've got a look up in the cats, just two inches and it's just so funny because it's and when you see it, it's like gold like leather, you know, like it's gold, except leather stacked heel. Wonder Woman absolutely unacceptable, ridiculous Also Wonder Woman. Aside the actor playing it, we're torturing this person. This is somebody who's standing around in those heels for probably fourteen hours a day, probably can't wait to get out of them. Oh God, Lord, that's insane. Well, good for Wonder Woman, Good for her, Good gal Gado, that's all right. Now. This one's taking place, I believe in the eighties. In the eighties. I haven't seen the first somehow, Chris Pine is back. Chris did he disappear in the past, Well, I mean he is in the first movie, and she's an immortal, Okay, so it be young in I think it was World War One.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was World War one, the first one and then but if she's an immortal, and I mean the in the in the first movie, there's like a sort of flash forward kind of thing where she's working in a museum, like that's her cover. She's working in a natural history museum and looking in an archival photo of her dead lover, Chris Pine.

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Speaker 3: Oh dead. Sure. It was World War One, of course, and in fact, he may have died in the movie.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember exactly spoiler alert.

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Speaker 3: You see him clearly get hit by a car or I.

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Speaker 4: Think he like flies some something into the sky, like some death gas into the sky and it explodes.

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Speaker 3: Oh he's a violet. Yeah, yeah, he's like.

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Speaker 4: He's on Like it's like there was there's like a death gas that was gonna obliterate Europe, and he flies it up and he makes the atmosphere so that the death gas just floats around in space.

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Speaker 3: But now he's back in the eighties. Now he's back. I don't know how they explain that evil clone could but if it.

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Speaker 4: Is like his grandchild or something, and he's just a dead ringer for him, she's gotta be fucking him again, of course, which.

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Speaker 3: Is really but also I'm happy for wonder woman. She's putting on those heels, possibly to seduce her grandson, yes, to show Yeah, because if she had flats, Oh yeah, you're not getting know absolutely obviously gay she is. She's not into Okay, So back to you being a year long podcast at this point, how is it? How have you found the experience? Is it something you wanted to do or not? Really?

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Speaker 4: I had had people, and by people I mean like manager agent, because there's only so much they can do for me because my job on the Conan Show is ongoing. Sure, and it's not and I'm in kind of a weird position, which is said like a I wish there was a better word than blessed. But it's a lucky position. It's a fortunate position in that I am employed and that my job pays pretty well. Sure, but I have a lot of time where I could be doing other things, of course, but it's just not continuous, like I can't so I can't go do. I can't take a part in the movie and say, well, you can have me Monday through Thursday before noon and then Fridays except for when I have to go pick up my daughter, you know. I mean, it's just sure, I can't go away to Vancouver.

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Speaker 3: This is why they had to go with Chris Pine again. Precisely, Okay, precisely.

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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, maybe Chris Pine's grandson could be Chunky, could be.

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Speaker 3: Chunky just like a healthy man. Sure, sure, and in his fifties of course, Well the age would work right, and maybe I don't quite all the time.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean as an immortal, and immortal after a while, I think that she'd start to appreciate maturity.

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Speaker 3: Of course, she needs somebody who's read a book exactly, who's seen some interesting films you go through.

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Speaker 4: The first few centuries, just fucking young things. Of course, Yeah, I got to talk to somebody. I'm an Amazon, but uh so, like, but what the point is my like my agents, there's not a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: For them to seek out. Sure, sure I.

00:15:09
Speaker 4: Can do like I've hosted a number of game show pilots because that's something I can do. On the side, I've done guest spots on TV show.

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Speaker 3: You were in the episode of Corporate I wrote terrific jokes.

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Speaker 4: I can go and that it's something I can go and do for a day. Sure, I can do that. But so there's not a lot for them to do. So they say things like, you should do a podcast, you should do a podcast, and I.

00:15:31
Speaker 3: Think because that's what everybody tells everybody, of course, because it's just it doesn't have to be anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like yesterday I heard on the news. It's like and we have Barbara Boxer, former senator Barbara Boxer, host of the Boxer Podcast. Wait, is that true? Fucking guess good for Barbara Boxer has a podcast? Is it politics? I'm sure what else could it be? Well, maybe she's like talking snacks or something, snack reviews, Barbara box martial arts. I just love it boxes boxing, Yeah, Boxer.

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Speaker 4: But so Noah, they would say that to me, and then I started to think about it. I was getting a divorce and I started to think, like I should say yes to things more sure, and I uh so I was like, sure, yeah, I'll do a podcast because I thought, oh my god, so much trim I'll be talking to Yeah, yeah, because I, well, I was mainly thinking Barbara Boxer is probably going to be evolved. No, I just I mean, I really did think I have to I need to open myself to life into these things.

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Speaker 3: And then I started to think, what kind of podcast do I want to do? I really it's I wanted to I wanted to have a common kind of conversations that I like to have with people, which are sort of more throwing thoughts and about I've been in therapy for many, many years, so I am, well, I'm very conf in the language of therapy and talking about feelings and why do I'm like this? And here's why I think I'm like this, and here's what I could do to not be like this. But I don't like being like this, and I and I like that language. I'm used to that language. I meet people who who are also conversant in that language, and we have something to talk about right away. Sure, and it's and it's important and interesting to me. And so I thought, well.

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Speaker 4: I'll try and do that kind of podcast. And then I just came up this skimmick of it's called the Three Questions, and the questions are where do you come from? Where you're going and what have you learned? And I just was it was just a gimmick to talk about about those kinds of course, and these are I have joked about it, but it is really true. It's like the kind of conversations that I like to have with people in the commercial breaks of Conan when we used to do commercial breaks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, audiences on TV would get bored by exactly or things like what is your workplace like? And when someone is honest about that, like somebody that's on a hit TV show, and you can say, especially as a in a as colleagues, you can say, what's your workplace like? And they can go like, oh, that fucking guy. Oh yes, I mean that's delicious, that's my favorite. I just have to hear. Yeah, tell me about that fucking prick. I can't wait. Yum yum, yum, yum yum. And there are so many of those, oh so many.

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Speaker 4: But so it's kind of like that too, you know, I like to know what your workplace is like, what what is your opinion of your surroundings as a human being, as a real person, Yes, what's forming you? Because there's a lot of people in this business too that you never get the sense of who they are. Oh, of course you meet them a dozen times and they're always in publicity mode and after phon, yes that's me, Yes, it's me.

00:18:52
Speaker 3: I'm really just projecting something I am not at all times. Wow, at all times. People are going to find out at some point. It's kind of what a month horrible tar of her soul.

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Speaker 4: Maria Bamford was on and she's.

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Speaker 3: Truly one of the funniest human beings.

00:19:13
Speaker 4: The funniest people in the world. And and she was on and she was very you know, she's very up for that kind of conversation. I mean she you know, she jokes about how the fact that when she started talking about her mental illness, how it became a real cash cow. Her career really took off when she started talking about how crazy she was.

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Speaker 3: But she said, it's funny because you know, of the three questions, it's the what have you learned? And where are the where are you going? I mean, she just talked about her marriage and I told her, that's you're the first person that in this conversation because they're pretty much everybody's show business sure and so far, but she was the first person that didn't take it as like, well, I have a screenplayer I love direcked, or she just was like, no, I think my husband and I were going to keep trying to work on it. Oh that's beautiful. No, and I was thought about another person. Yeah, bless you for that. Yeah, that's so. I can't imagine myself doing this.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to believe that I would make the right choice in that situation, but I would probably say something self, don't you don't have a partner, I do. I have a boyfriend of five years. Yeah. Yeah, but you wouldn't talk about your future together. I don't know. That's a good question. I guess, well, now that I've brought it up, I have no idea. I mean, I think about our future a lot. I grew up in a very marriage based culture, and so occasionally he would like to get married. And I feel a little allergic to the idea of it. For one reason. I think I just growing up was told every day you're going to get married. At some point. Of course, everyone telling me this wasn't didn't realize oh, this is a gay child. But there's for me some level of just distaste for the idea, or just like I feel like it does much. It's just too much for you too. The commitment is a little insane, and there's I just feel like, you see it not work out so often it's like why bother. But the more the longer I'm with my boyfriend Jim, the more it feels like, well, maybe we'll give this a shot at some point. Yeah. Also, just for practical purposes of course, insurance this sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's a good question. But I also hate the idea of spending thousands of dollars on a wedding. Yeah, that seems you don't have to spend of course. Do what I would like is to register for some pots and paints. Oh that's the dream. Oh yeah, absolutely, So it's a nice thing. I you know, I I mean I just ended. We were married for twenty five years, yes, and and it ended and or you know, I mean there's all kinds of different.

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Speaker 4: Ways that you know, you read is books and things, and and you know, there's the concept that it finished, that it wasn't that it wasn't like it was a failure, and that it's you know, it it was killed.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was just that no, this it was a it sort of was done, there would be a conclusion that yes.

00:22:19
Speaker 4: And I mean and it was, and I don't, you know, and I don't look at it as a failure.

00:22:25
Speaker 3: It was sure twenty five years or two kids who say wonderful, wonderful kids too, I mean, just like really truly. I mean, I know I'm biased, but they're really amazing people. As objective as.

00:22:37
Speaker 4: I can be about it, they're both really wonderful people. And my wife, my ex wife, is a wonderful person. But it just it, it's it stopped and it stopped working and and I don't but it doesn't. People will ask me like, do you think you'll ever get married again? I'm like, fuck, yes, no, who interesting being married? I feel like marriage is my natural state.

00:22:59
Speaker 3: What do you like? It's the it's it's just well, it's uh, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't it's I'm I'm more of a quality over quantity person. Sure, So the notion of you know, and I've always been struck by the notion of like that thing of like, oh, you get married and I mean you're going to be sleeping with the same person forever.

00:23:31
Speaker 3: And to me, that's like wow, that love. To me, that sounds I want to do that. Yeah, that sounds great to me. I don't. I mean, you know.

00:23:40
Speaker 4: It's because it's not you know, just fucking somebody is just fucking somebody.

00:23:45
Speaker 3: But fucking somebody you love is Oh, it's a completely different ac Yeah.

00:23:48
Speaker 4: It's really it's it's it makes you understand, like, oh, I get it. Like that's what Like you know, when you're you make love to somebody that you love, you're fucking you know, sticking your hand and boots. I You're you're like touching the fabric of the universe. Whereas if you're just fucking somebody, you're just you know, shaking off into another. Yeah, which, boy, I can't wait the next if I ever have well.

00:24:17
Speaker 3: We all love yeah, but uh but.

00:24:22
Speaker 4: No, I mean and I and I also too. It's just it's to build something with somebody. That's like the most important work there is. I've had children. That's the most important work and my kids are continuing to be And I say work in not in.

00:24:37
Speaker 3: Like work like I got.

00:24:38
Speaker 4: I mean, like like no, life is work. Like there's like there's no if it's worth doing, it's there's.

00:24:46
Speaker 3: Some yan and yang to it.

00:24:49
Speaker 4: Sure, every beautiful thing takes some dil Yeah, and so, uh, you know, I still work at my relationship with my kids, and I still I'm learning with my kids. I mean my son, I confess to him a couple of years ago. You're the oldest. So everything that I do as a father with you, I'm learning. It's the first time I've ever done it.

00:25:15
Speaker 3: It's a little easier with your sister because I went through it with you already at this age, because there are very age specific things that happen in the development of young humans. But even so, the gender difference between them can throw a wrench in where I can say, like, well, I handle it like this with will, and here comes Mercy with sort of the same problem. But oh Christ with the toddamn ovaries are making it all different, you know. So no, I I think, no, I'm That's that's where my priorities always have have have laid is in you know.

00:25:56
Speaker 4: Just building towards a long term monogamous relationship.

00:26:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, because and it's you.

00:26:01
Speaker 4: Know, in the monogamy, I the notion of monogamy not working to me. I also don't I don't I don't I feel like no, I feel in my being monogamy is a doable thing.

00:26:19
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think, I mean, I think it frequently doesn't work. But when it does, I mean, and there are people that it doesn't standard, it doesn't resonate with.

00:26:27
Speaker 4: Sure, the notion of monogamy to them seems very confining, and it does not seem confined.

00:26:31
Speaker 3: Sure to just I mean, as somebody with very low energy, it's like, if I can just have this one person and we just deal with each other, yes, and yeah, and it's also too to me.

00:26:43
Speaker 4: The best part about just the physical aspect of a relationship is the we both have these ridiculous blood bags that are oozing smells and liquids and you know, and that, and it's like, and you at your most relaxed is not It's not pretty?

00:27:04
Speaker 3: Oh speak for yourself. I wan gorgeous, right, like a reclining alabaster status. Exactly.

00:27:17
Speaker 4: Time to relax eating this bag of Dorito's. Is that man? He's eating no detos.

00:27:25
Speaker 3: For me. I. In the last year, my boyfriend has gone out on tour and it's been an interesting tour. He's touring with lame is he the Master of the House and the national tour for this Uh, it was like it was a difficult decision initially for both of us because it seemed insane and they're going to begin this long term thing. But I had forgotten how wonderful it is to have someone around to just edit your behavior. Yeah, it's so I immediately went back to like spending two hours trying to decide on what I was going to eat for dinner or this sort of thing. It's like if I had if Kim were around my things, they cut it out. Yes, come on, we have to go somewhere. But now it's just like a constant spir Yeah. Have you found as a newly single man these any difficulty like that? Or have you found yourself becoming more eccentric or like or I guess you were in a relationship long enough that you probably both were so comfortable around each other.

00:28:23
Speaker 4: That, yeah, there were there was a fair amount. Yes, definitely, there was a fair amount of comfort. And I didn't feel like I was ever Yeah, I didn't. I didn't feel particularly like I had to put on airs. Sure, I was definitely able to be myself, and there was you know, and we had an appreciation certainly for what ourselves at our root were. Yes, the only the main thing for me is just the being alone after so many years and because we were we were together for twenty seven years wow, and married for twenty five. It just being around people and getting up and having your day being sort of filled with well, first I'm doing I got to take the kids to there, and then we have this thing planned and then there's this and now. It was really tough at the beginning of especially like on a weekend when because I have, you know, mixed custody with my daughter, and like a weekend with my daughter, then it's like we're doing stuff.

00:29:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the other weekend.

00:29:29
Speaker 4: Saturday, a Saturday, wake up on a Saturday and realize all the way through until I go to bed on Sunday night is up to me. And that was not I had to really shift my feeling about that from oh, I got nothing to do with, nobody to do it with too. I can do whatever the fuck I want.

00:29:52
Speaker 3: I'm the king of the weekend.

00:29:53
Speaker 4: I can do whatever I want. And it's still like it still took it and it and still take work.

00:30:01
Speaker 3: Oh of course, to be.

00:30:02
Speaker 4: I can do whatever I want. This is a blessing. This is not this is not a curse, This is not some sort of sentence that lonely guy needs to, you know, stumble around and.

00:30:13
Speaker 3: Just be miserable. So what are you doing to fill your time? I got a big dog. That's right, I've seen the dog is beautiful, thank you.

00:30:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's She's very helpful in sort of just there was definitely when I got her, because it was in conjunction with my daughter. I told my daughter, you know, I think I'm thinking about getting a dog, and literally thirty seconds later I had a fucking dog. And I did have a couple only a couple of times like what the fuck am I doing assuming responsibility for another living thing when I'm trying to clear the decks, like, you know, sort of in terms of like who I owe what and who I you know, who I'm beholden to in terms of time and concern. And now I hear I have this goddamn done shitting machine. I mean, granted, yeah, I get to snuggle her, and she's great and she's funny, but yeah, but.

00:31:10
Speaker 3: Still it's like, oh, another fucking thing I have to keep alive, let something out three times a day?

00:31:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, and so but she I mean well, but also too, she helps just to bring happiness. Of course, it's just you cannot, I mean, unless you're some kind of monster, you can't. You cannot like deny just the happiness that an animal of of course, you know.

00:31:32
Speaker 3: My dog is she slept with me last night, and it's just an incredible feeling. Yeah yeah in my arms. This yeah, eighty five pound thing that could easily just sing its jaws into me has decided to be alive with me.

00:31:44
Speaker 4: And I still get struck over, like that thing comes from wolves and it's rims in my apartment. I still will say sometimes like hey, animal, how did you get in here?

00:31:56
Speaker 3: What are you doing? You're living with me? Why are you being civil towards me? And anyway you could be in the woods when I bend over to get your food, just jump at me, take care of me and very soft underbelly. Yeah, So then this apartment is yours until the fucking cable bill come, of course, So then how you're going to turn on the t vase? But then but also to just learning to learning to and it's in terms of what I'm what I fill my time with. I have effort.

00:32:29
Speaker 4: I have to make an effort.

00:32:30
Speaker 3: To go do things I have to You can't rely on others to yeah yeah, yeah, And that's and that's actually too, like not, I'm still not really great at it.

00:32:41
Speaker 4: I'm still difficult, still very much in a learning in a learning space about how to do this.

00:32:48
Speaker 3: And I also too, for me in particular, it's not a coincidence that I'm a talk show sidekick. I am.

00:32:56
Speaker 4: I was designed to be the calm thing sitting next to the high strung ship needs more. I mean that was like a pattern from an early point in my life of being like no, no, honey, you get it, you need it.

00:33:13
Speaker 3: I will get to this vibrating energy. Yeah, I'll be here, you know. And I have said it before. I'm for years I've said it, and it's just because it's true. But there's there's a thing with show horses that when they transport a show horse, they frequently will send along a dog.

00:33:35
Speaker 4: Present, just a companion to be in the trailer with it. And like I said, it will be a dog. There's also I've heard of a goat, Like there's a goat that just you know, like a goat and a horse.

00:33:46
Speaker 3: Of your house, absolutely adorable.

00:33:48
Speaker 4: And that's that's me. That's what I've always kind of been. There's been sort of like, like I say, the sort.

00:33:54
Speaker 3: Of more.

00:33:58
Speaker 4: Narcissistic high, you know, like the higher energy creature that needs the stability of someone who's kind of a little just more self contained.

00:34:09
Speaker 3: That's right. I'm and I've always been.

00:34:11
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm a miserable wreck, but I've always been able to make my way.

00:34:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel yeah, you give a level present, and I feel like you're kind of radiating. I'm a stable present you.

00:34:22
Speaker 4: And I yeah, And I mean and I do feel that way. And I noticed it too early for my earliest days of improvisation, the people that really needed it, you know, hang upside down, hang upside down from the flats and things like that.

00:34:35
Speaker 3: Huh. And I was always kind of like, if I was in a scene with somebody like that, like I'm not going to fight to compete with this.

00:34:42
Speaker 4: There's plenty of this to go around. And well also too with these people. What I well, I should say, what I learned after a while is and I've said this before on my podcast, is like all right, you go ahead, go ahead, go out there and be desperate and beg for it. I'm going to stand back here and get more anyway, Yes, this is the dream. The job going to wait and I'm going to put a button on this thing, and that's what people are going to go exactly.

00:35:05
Speaker 3: So this for me. Anytime I'm watching a movie and someone sick, character is sick in a hospital bed, I just like that actor's got the dream. That's the role I want to be playing. Just put me in a stretcher and I'll lie there for hours. Yeah, give you my lines. Everybody else's dance those beds. Those beds are never comfortable. That's probably. The sheets are always itchy, sure, yeah, yeah, you know, like drop sheets.

00:35:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they don't like put a nice mattress pad this hundred count oh, kind of wrinkly. And the hospital beds, like when I've done things in hospital beds, they're that kind of plat because you know, people pissing ship all over the shore, so they're like kind of crinkly plastic.

00:35:41
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's float. Well, you famously played so many characters lying in hospital that's oh built an empire yeah off of that.

00:35:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, for a while they just called the Andy Invalid star of shut in fame.

00:36:06
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to derail a conversation. But I feel like maybe this is your problem. This is a podcast called I said no gift, right, I invite people on with it. I feel like things are pretty clear. You're coming here, I say, I said no gift, right, you walk in today, you're holding a bag, right, I mean maybe this is your purse, but no, no, this is this is a gift. You brought me, a gift I did out of just out of spike, out of spite. You just wanted to in my day, right.

00:36:36
Speaker 4: I heard, I heard what the I mean, First of all, I would if it got you know, if you wanted to if you wanted to talk about you know, equestrian things, which we already did in a way.

00:36:46
Speaker 3: Well we always come back to the equestrian or.

00:36:48
Speaker 4: You know, or if you wanted to just talk about the Wonder Woman trailer, which oh my gosh, we talked about that too. I mean, I I would have come to sit and talk to you about anything. But when I heard I said no gifts.

00:37:01
Speaker 3: Well immediately as kind of a ruled breaker, yeah exactly, I'm a real rebel. Yes, you're just I'm causing trouble all around time.

00:37:09
Speaker 4: Honestly, I I have always felt that Dennis Leary stole my thing.

00:37:14
Speaker 3: Well, I heard your motorcycle rumble up outside the studio and I thought, it's how am I going to handle this now?

00:37:20
Speaker 4: I just have a smart car in a boombox a motorcycle noise, because that's really hot, it's threatening.

00:37:29
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes, but let's say, I mean, do you want me to open this? Would I?

00:37:35
Speaker 4: Well, they would, I certainly want to witness you. It's in a coach it's a coach bag I just had laying around. But I mainly meant that to imply that I would be teaching you.

00:37:46
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course you're kind of Hollywood coach rick.

00:37:50
Speaker 4: Right exactly, I'm coaching you.

00:37:52
Speaker 3: And you've done such a But it's also I mean, you're underplaying how well wrapped this is. It's not only in this bag did it myself, but in this gorgeous kind of plaid wrap. Yeah, it's a little bit of a Stuart plaid, I would call it. It's just it was a Stuart Stewart plaid. I believe I'm not familiar with the Stewart Well, you know the plaids are in negative of clans. Oh of course, yeah, so this is and I believe this. This is a Royal Stewart plai. Do you know a lot of different plaid names just that one? Okay?

00:38:24
Speaker 4: Well, and I know and I know there's one called black Watch. But this is probably just from the different plaids in the ll Bean catalog.

00:38:35
Speaker 3: Oh of course, and I have I say haven't. I haven't worn all of those years.

00:38:40
Speaker 4: But like as a I mean as a kid, sure, if you're a Stewart, Oh my god, lots of l B stuff.

00:38:45
Speaker 3: Well let me open this up. Uh huh, let's see what's happening here. It feels you will say, a little squishy. It is it's not. Yeah, it's not a box. It's not a box. It could be truly anything. And that is that also is that is the Christmas paper that I walked it? What that could go to? Others?

00:39:01
Speaker 4: That could that could us something exactly? Well no, but I mean it's a Christmas paper. That's not so much a Christmas paper that I could exactly.

00:39:10
Speaker 3: This could be a year round you could give somebody your Fourth of July gift precisely. I'm always thinking, I'm very frugal. This is a beautiful You've given me a denim jacket. Yes, that says Conan on it I have that was the show gift this year. This is now let me in a medium. I assumed a medium. Was this given to you? No, So this isn't a regift. This is a a gift that was everybody got one, right, Okay, So here's what's beautiful about this gift. This is and aside, I mean a cheap denim. It's handsome.

00:39:44
Speaker 4: It's a handsome denim jacket with a with a particularly it's with a nice cone and logo.

00:39:50
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a tasteful cone load.

00:39:52
Speaker 4: Yes, it's orange and I believe it's the font from the old Action comics the Man. I believe familiar and when we've been using that lately, which I'm very fond of that one. But it's just because I'm not sick of it yet because they use different funds. But what's the beauty about this gift is that it is quality. It's exclusive.

00:40:12
Speaker 3: It's absolutely it's exclusive, exclusive just to Conan employees. It's desirable. Of course, it would be like give me that little particular neighborhoods in this jock.

00:40:25
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, you will be Yeah, they would take your throat and the jacket. Well, they take me, you take the jacket off and then cut your throat because they wouldn't want blood up.

00:40:34
Speaker 3: But it also too was incredibly easy to obtain, of course, which is maybe the best attribute for any gift.

00:40:42
Speaker 4: The hardest part about getting that was that I did have to walk into Conan's office. It's his anti were not into.

00:40:50
Speaker 3: His office, per se. And the hardest part was having to paw through the four xls. There were like six four. It always plenty of exls and there's I mean, I'm for who the fuck is and our stab is for XL and not aware. Yeah, I don't even know what that jacket looks like, but it looks more like a laundry bag. Well, as a very small person, I can say that we're always making way too many for xls. I'll go to the clearance rack. There's not a small item. It's all for medium too big. Medium is probably too big. But you know what, I'm going to try it on, try it on, come on, I bet it fits.

00:41:29
Speaker 4: But yeah, so that and then I just found an okay, a medium.

00:41:33
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I'll say this, I appreciate you thinking that I might be a medium sized person. Oh my, uh my grandma. For years, every item was a medium sized gift, I think, in an effort to be like to boost myself call right right. Eventually I just had to tell her I'm very look at I think this fits me perfectly good and you can wear sweater under it, you know. And I want to say the Conan on this could almost be Conan brand. You know, a lot of TV show uh cast gifts or disorder or gifts always are just screaming yes with the brand on them. So it's nice to get one. It's just like a tasteful, understated.

00:42:13
Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm glad.

00:42:16
Speaker 3: Are you a big denim jacket wearer?

00:42:18
Speaker 4: I do like denim jackets, although my dimensions are so that I have a long torso okay, so often I feel like it's like I feel like I'm wearing a balo jacket. It's not doing it. I like to have something a little cover up, a little bit more of my big round ass than.

00:42:43
Speaker 3: This little light of mine. I'm going to be embarrassed by hiding it under a bushel.

00:42:49
Speaker 4: But but no, I thought, you know, it was when I was like, what what what am I going to disobey my directive with and I thought, okay, this is I.

00:42:59
Speaker 3: Love a denim jacket. I've in the last couple of years have become a real denim jacket wear and I feel like people respond in a positive way. But always a denim jacket is always something people are gonna comment, right right. I don't know what it is the denim that's doing that. I've also learned recently what I Canadian tuxedo. Have you already familiar with this? I've never heard that. It's when you're wearing jeans, denim jeans and a denim jacket. Apparently that's a Canadian tuxedo, which I'm happy to wear. Right right. My boyfriend's constantly calling me a little denim queen, and I think that's fine. I think it's a good look. Why not you know it's I worked for jay Leno, of course, or still does so. I will say I do get the jay Leno thing every once in a while. Jay Leno probably has made a lot of mistakes. Yes, I'm going to say this is the one thing jay Leno did, right. He looks sharp in the denim thing. I mean as sharp as jay Leno can look there, Although for him it is kind of more. Uh.

00:44:05
Speaker 4: His denim look to me always smacks a little bit of just joyless, well kind of does yeah like and he wear it because he does famously in his regular life wears a particular kind of and I think they come from payless, a complete particular kind of.

00:44:26
Speaker 3: Plain shoe, like.

00:44:28
Speaker 4: A workshoes for cruise, a work shoe that because of you know, of his car thing.

00:44:32
Speaker 3: It's like a work thing.

00:44:34
Speaker 4: And I think then the denim shirt and the denim pants are just like a thing where he doesn't have to.

00:44:37
Speaker 3: Think, yes, and he's not enjoying it.

00:44:40
Speaker 4: I heard one to dish a little when he I heard years ago, I used to hear from people that he would order the same thing for lunch for months at a time.

00:44:50
Speaker 3: Do you know what it was? It would it would be like, give.

00:44:52
Speaker 4: Me that chicken thing, what if some chicken dish? And then he would just something that he liked, and then he would just eat that literally for months and months until he grew a little tired of it, and then he'd find another thing that he would order for months and months and months.

00:45:04
Speaker 3: What Okay, So if he's not thinking about what he's wearing, he's not thinking about what he's eating. What is occupying jay Leno's brain? He jokes. I guess, well joke. I don't want to say jokes. Yeah, maybe it is strictly like steam powered cars. Yeah, just all that all the time. Yeah, I don't know, but I'm going to say, if we can just let's say one good thing about Jay Leno. I think the denim it may be the one thing he did, right, Yes, yes, I don't know.

00:45:33
Speaker 4: I remember David Byrne quoted David Byrne quote from years and years ago said, and he probably said it was some sort of artsy artsy soap, you know, but he said, if you want people to remember you wear the same thing all the time, Well, that is kind of that, and it does make sense. I'm getting to a.

00:45:52
Speaker 3: Point in my life where I'm I don't want to dress like a twenty year old, especially now we're getting into this kind of people truly look insane and what they're wearing. Yes, I want to just outfit. They've got the outfit people wear like I just saw somebody, the guy the other day, just and it was like he just was wearing such a customs so much for my pants and work boots and a broad brimmed hat and a weird it's shaved hair, facial facial hair. Yes, I just want to find something that looks nice enough, yep, just to look right, and then just hold on to that till I die. So I don't have to follow trends. People can just be like, that's his look. Yep, he's done it for years and it looks good. It may not be with the times, but who cares.

00:46:35
Speaker 4: And it's there's a sweet spot of drawing attention to yourself and then not drawing attention like you can like if you don't try too much, Like if you're too much of a slob, you'll draw attention to yourself. Yes, if you're too prissy and made up, he'll draw attention to yourself. Somewhere in the middle, there's this in the middle there where you're just sort of like you're you're put together, you look all right, but you know, but it's just enough to be like, oh, you're registered, and then people move on perfect. Yes, I don't know if you don't like to drop attention.

00:47:07
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, unless I'm doing it on purpose and I you know, I'm screaming in the grocery store. This sort of thing. I mean, I do like I do like to wear colors at times. Sure, there's nothing wrong with a color, right, but I but it knows like like I have, like I have a pair of green jeans that are that are sort of almost like a Kelly Green. Okay, Sure, and when I wear them, I know I'm going to have to have six or seven conversations about my green parents. Sure, but they'll all be positive conversation. Yeah, they'll be positive, and at least it's something to talk about.

00:47:39
Speaker 4: Yes, and it were No one thinks about mister green jeans from Captain Kangaroo and.

00:47:44
Speaker 3: He's well, I'm thinking about him right now and I'm not going to stop. I see the tattoo. No, I've noticed. I don't know if you. You've been in comedy and entertainment for a much longer both than me, both of them, but I the last few years have and I think this is largely due to social media, but like a new emphasis for comedians to be models essentially, which is truly my health. Yes, people posing in stupid magamines in like five hundred dollars t shirts, this sort of thing that I just it doesn't I don't know what to do with it. Yeah, do you feel like this is a new trend or is it something that I'm just picking up on? Uh?

00:48:26
Speaker 4: No, I think it is. I think it is kind of a newer thing. And although you know, you go back to like a Joe Episcopo sure who all of a sudden had to be incredibly buffed, like he had to get like big muscles. And there are different comedians that have to get big muscles. Yes, you know, like for instance, like Kumeil Nanjianni just famously a sex symbol.

00:48:50
Speaker 3: Yes, but like but what he but that was for a movie somebody, And he was very open about the fact that, like, I look like this because there was a movie studio that threw a bunch of money on egg whites. When Disney demands that you become shredded, you become become shredded.

00:49:09
Speaker 4: But that shreddedness too, is it's it's it, only it has a very short window. In the minute the trainer stops feeding you egg whites, it's going on tuna, It goes away and you become like a normal sort of you know, human with a little bit of thickness.

00:49:26
Speaker 3: Yes, I've long been a proponent of exercise should be a six week project you do then you just get to keep the body at the end of it. Yeah, what the fly? The maintenance aspect is truly unbelievable. Yes, you just have to keep doing it. I don't think so. I don't for me now I'm in my fifties, and the notion of like the cardiovascular exercise, Oh, I feel like, come on, cardio for me leaves me so deeply nauseous. Just I do it once and then I can't do it again for eight weeks.

00:49:57
Speaker 4: I did a live version of my podcast UH in San Francisco with Rachel Trash and we open it up for questions from the audience, and somebody asked, like, what would you tell your younger self? And I was not even really kidding. I said I would tell myself like me like back in my teens or something. I would say, learn to deal with cardio, like learn to sort of don't just don't train your body.

00:50:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't cultivate this distaste for it, which I sort of did, because it's just it's so hard.

00:50:30
Speaker 4: Now it's and I envy people who feel like I. Just I haven't run for a few days. I got to hit the street day what. Yeah, No, these people that are like that. You know, when I.

00:50:42
Speaker 3: See someone running around around town, I just think there's just got to be a better option or just stay home. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I will say, you look really good. Have you been working out? Oh? I well I do, I do go. I have gone to the gym for a long time.

00:50:56
Speaker 4: Cardio I'm not good with, but I do kind of circuit training and okay, weightlifting, but that's mainly uh and I am that's mainly to keep up my spine from collapse. Of course, I don't care about like I don't really care about, you know, having a big shoulder. Well, first of all, I am like from Swedish German plow horses, So I always was thick, sure, And I mean and I've always had just like ridiculously big mustard muscly legs.

00:51:29
Speaker 3: Sure. Sure, and it just that's that's something Viking stuff for what but it probably is. Yeah, but I just stand out still on a ship.

00:51:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, so it's there's I've never I've always been naturally strong.

00:51:43
Speaker 3: Sure, So just bragging the podcast, but no.

00:51:48
Speaker 4: I do over the last over the last number of years too, from from keeping up with it and I have a trainer, which I need to have. Here's my other ness. I need to hire somebody to be waiting for me in the gym. You have someone to be responsible. Somebody's waiting for me, not like not like I'm waiting for my own healthiness. I'm waiting for me to be a better long line. No, no, no, I'm waiting because this guy'd be mad.

00:52:13
Speaker 3: Do you do you have like an eating vice is or something that you have a hard time controlling yourself from eating. For me, it's cookies or sweets. But I feel like you cook a lot. I do.

00:52:23
Speaker 4: I'm a I do like cooking a lot, and I eat much more healthfully than I used to. I will tell you, uh uh. A good regulator for me these days. It is not smoking marijuana, oh of course.

00:52:38
Speaker 3: Not not getting high is just living immediately, and I don't. And people will say, like everybody all these there's so many sort of professional weed smokers that are like, well you need to try this strain of indoca. Sure, no, no, no, you don't understand.

00:52:55
Speaker 4: If it's weed and I smoke it, I go and I pick the pantry up and tip it into my mouth after ten pm, Like there's just no getting around that. So no, So I just I mean, for many reasons, I have.

00:53:08
Speaker 3: To be I have to I have to regulate my sure, just find the things that lead to eating overeating and stop and stop doing them.

00:53:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, sure, but yeah no, I I eat pretty healthfully and I like eating healthfully. I still eat everything. You know, I eat red meat. I just try and be judicious, you know, with eating red meat, and I and I will continue. And I know, like for the planet it would be better to not eat meat, but I don't.

00:53:42
Speaker 3: Actually, I feel like I'm always just waiting for the next thing to find out that I'm doing that's just going to destroy earth every It's just it is. It does get.

00:53:51
Speaker 4: Sort of difficult. It's very diff and I do. I mean, and this is such an adolescent way to think about it. But they're just like, well, if we all stop eating cows, what are we gonna do with the cow? For at least cows we got to take care.

00:54:02
Speaker 3: Of, Like, well, we're going to adopt them and bring them into our homes.

00:54:05
Speaker 4: But for what, I don't you know, especially if you're vegan, you got all these cows making milk, that that's true, you know.

00:54:12
Speaker 3: Look I need. I need milk with my cookies. So I'm not kidding. I know I'm an adult man, but I like milk and cookies.

00:54:23
Speaker 4: This is a sore spot with me, though, because in the last year, my body has decided I can no longer process.

00:54:29
Speaker 3: Damn. Oh I apologize.

00:54:33
Speaker 4: Rough, it is really rough. No ice cream, no ice cream? Oh no, I mean and even lacked aid doesn't.

00:54:40
Speaker 3: So you're just doing oat milk at this point. Yeah, almond milk.

00:54:44
Speaker 4: I mean O milk and almond milk, and it's okay, and it's not bad.

00:54:46
Speaker 2: You know.

00:54:47
Speaker 3: There's some like yeah, there are like fake ice creams and somebody like they've done a pretty good job. I feel like the science is evolving, yes, rapidly with these things, but it's still not quite. It's just it's a pain in the ass.

00:54:59
Speaker 4: There's so many little things that have like, you know, like a little bit of cheese and them of course, you know, or that salad dressing has buttermilk in it, and then just.

00:55:09
Speaker 3: Like and just and I just that little bit. It's I really I've had to I think I was in denial for a while, of course, and but now it is like because just the other night I went and had a meal and the salad dressing must have had some kind of dairy in it, and I paid the price, which worst intestinal distress of course, you know, and with food, if it tastes good to me, I'm I'm really willing to just go through hell. So it's a that's a difficult thing to say no too. I don't know. I feel like we've reached a point in the podcast where we're going to play a game. Oh I like games, a little game called I think we're going to play. It's called Gift or a Curse. Okay, So basically what I'm going to do is, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to name three things, and you're going to tell me why they're a gift or they are a curse and why. Okay, but from you, I need a number between one and ten eight Okay, So I'm going to use this number. I'm going to go into my calculation cave. Okay, I'm going to figure out the three items. While I'm doing this, I just want you to maybe tell people something something about yourself that maybe they don't know, or you can just talk about whatever. It's going to take probably thirty seconds. All right, gosh, something people don't know. Well, most people know I'm a scorpio. I mean it's pretty obvious because you could just tell the sexual energy mainly. I mean, I'm definitely obviously a water sign. I mean I am juicy. So yeah, the scorpio thing.

00:56:43
Speaker 4: I think people are pretty aware of that. They know I'm not a libertarian, and oh you're back.

00:56:51
Speaker 3: I'm back. I'm back by a cave. I've got three things. Okay, we're going to start. Andy, I want you to tell me if you think video tutorials are a gift or a curse. Video tutorials, for example, a YouTube video telling you how to build a birdhouse, I honestly think that those are a gift. Why do you think that they absolve you of the drudgery of reading? Sure, sure, and there's and there's.

00:57:21
Speaker 4: And also well for me too, especially as someone who cooks something. Oh of course you get to see. They can say, you know, cook the onions, and you know, until they're particular color.

00:57:34
Speaker 3: But on a video you can really see are you color? Are you watching a decent amount of cooking the tutorial?

00:57:40
Speaker 4: I mean, but occasionally I will occasionally I will for a recipe that I'm not. Like just recently I made a kind of like a Pakistani spinach and chicken curry.

00:57:53
Speaker 3: What is happening in your home? This is I mean, I don't own a pot. I die cook.

00:57:58
Speaker 4: I like, this is beautiful, it's and it's and there again that's like something where being alone and even though I am alone, like I will make something like that. And when I made that, I was home alone. But I'll take it.

00:58:10
Speaker 3: To work and.

00:58:13
Speaker 4: Or my daughter's coming the next night, and you know, so it'll be I can make something, it will last a little bit.

00:58:19
Speaker 3: And let me ask you, did you have all the ingredients on hand? Or was this a trip to the grocery. So that's for me, the most intimidating aspect of cooking is like I'm going to find a recipe that I'm going to need to buy seventy percent of thought, I, well, I have a I have a fairly well stocked kitchen, okay, and but yeah, like this I had to go. I mean I had to buy chicken, you know, whole chicken legs and spinach. But like I had the term rick oh beautiful, and I had the chili powder and and I did have to buy.

00:58:55
Speaker 4: Coriander ground ground coriander. H But you know, I had cilantro, but that's different than your sure tried version.

00:59:07
Speaker 3: But no, And I looked at that online to kind of get a picture, get an idea what it looks like. Just watch another human accomplish it, just so you know that it is possible.

00:59:16
Speaker 4: And I am and I am, as they say, a visual learner, which is usually a way to say you don't.

00:59:20
Speaker 3: Like to read. Sure that I would say is a if. I absolutely agree. Yeah. And it also gives me a little hope for teens because I feel like ninety percent of them are produced by teenagers. Yes, and it's wonderful to have a teen just teaching me a new skill, right team in my home, teaching grandma how to you know, turn on the TV right, the sort of thing.

00:59:41
Speaker 4: And I think it's how most teens these days are learning sexual techniques of.

00:59:44
Speaker 3: Course something those are out on, Yeah, yes, those are top us. Corn Hub is just big, how too, it's a huge hoow too. Yeah, Okay, moving on the next thing we have here. Do you think no novelty mugs or a gift or a curse, A curse, A curse? I would think, yeah, Okay, I need you to justify this. Um, I'm going to sound like such a dick here, but it just we're gonna have to deal with it. It gives uh, I do get I am proprietary about being funny, of course, of course, And so you got.

01:00:32
Speaker 4: A guy in an office, and who do I care?

01:00:34
Speaker 3: I listen. I know I'm being petty. I know I'm being small about this. But some guy with the funny mug, like, you know, but you're not funny. You purchased us, got a fucking mug. You purchased an item somebody else like, Oh that guy's crazy. Look at that mug, you know? Uh uh Todd Levant who's a writer at Codin Sure, Yes, a mug. Yeah. And this one I actually here we go, I do. But this one that was that just said you fucking pig. That's a beautiful white mug, big block letters. And I said like, and I said to him, I was like, oh Father's Day present. Huh oh yeah. The kids they just say love it, just like so tired of being such a fucking pig. Well, now you've just proven yourself completely. I guess I have. But that's a novelty on a novelty. Sure you know that is not as that's not what one would call a novel one your average novelty mug consumer that would be like, oh that I'm not funny, that's a novelty. That's aggression. Goddamn right it is.

01:01:50
Speaker 4: And I you know, I just uh, I also remember maybe two, I was you know, uh, affected by in my youth. In my youth my father, my father, my dad is gay, and and you know I was open and out. I mean that's why my parents divorced when I was four. But he and his friends they had and this is in Bloomington, Indiana, but in his circle of friends who were all gay.

01:02:20
Speaker 3: Uh, there was.

01:02:21
Speaker 4: A mug that had as its handle a huge dick and ball like a curving like.

01:02:29
Speaker 3: A curving erection with ball at the bottom. And it was it was particularly it was gruesome. Yes, it's something I want to be drinking milk out of right exactly or anything, but it is, like you know, and I mean there's certainly it's definitely possible that a cock and ball's mug could have an appeal. Sure you know, I mean sure, you know everybody like everybody, yeah, I mean cooks, you know, we're we based, you know, you know Citadel, they're attached to a large part of the part. You know, every company lea is really just a dick. Uh and uh is it company? Is that right? Is that what the towers are called in Italy? You're asking the wrong anyway, but anyway, so, yes, the phallus exists and it can be desirable. This mug was disgusting, amazing, not like erect cocon ball. Yeah, I mean wow. Uh. But they would pass it around to each other like, oh, I brought you a gift, and it's like, oh, it's the cock and ball mine. I was picturing a group of gay men sitting in a circle just passing. This is a weekend activity. This is no. This was like a prank and I thought potato. Yeah. So I'd go to different you.

01:03:47
Speaker 4: Know, gatherings and see like, h now it's yours. As if it was some sort of burden that we had to carry. But you couldn't destroy, You couldn't just put it on a shelf. You had to go to someone throw it away or give it to you know, give it to goodwill.

01:04:02
Speaker 3: Good Will is not taking that as well. It is a gesture. Usually a cook is a good will gesture right back.

01:04:11
Speaker 4: But so maybe that affected me because that always was it was it doesn't sound yeah, and then the passing it around and making a big fuss about it. It just was like, bus on a mug, this isn't fun. We could be spending our time better.

01:04:26
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're saying, curse, I'm fully disagreeing. Gift. I recently came around on them. Actually, I had a very similar feeling where it was like the forced humor, this sort of thing. But now I've kind of accepted just how horrible the forced humor of that is. I see. I mean, I'm not I'm not seeking out funny mugs, but yeah, I'll go to goodwill and find you know, like I recently bought a Wyoming mugget, which is just a pleasant thing to look at. Sure, yeah, I guess maybe novelty mugs I'm looking for are more tasteful. Yes, but you know I've got I bought one that says this Grandma is fantastic, and it's it's a wonderful mut that is good. I got a snoopy mug, you know.

01:05:07
Speaker 4: And I have fun the way that I mean that I'm a hippocrite too. Is that a T shirt novelty T shirt? Oh?

01:05:13
Speaker 3: Sure, like I would like like I had a.

01:05:15
Speaker 4: T shirt for a long long time that was a pink T shirt with tinker Bell on it.

01:05:21
Speaker 3: Oh, gorgeous. In order to fit me.

01:05:24
Speaker 4: It was like a four XL women's that I think was meant to almost be like a night shirt. Okay, but like I would, I would wear that, and I you know the it's it was not its intended purpose, of course, but it worked for you. And yeah, and certainly a T shirt that said, you know, sexy grandma. I would wear that all day, of course. But a mug that said sexy grandma, I don't know why. I just would be less likely to like that. And you wonder who that mug would be for. Yeah, and it's the I think the mug too awful also has a connotation with office culture, course, and i's just.

01:06:01
Speaker 3: Exhausted, horrible yeah, people personality fore or trying to demonstrate exactly. Okay, well whatever, let's move on to the next. The final thing. Gift her a curse piano lessons.

01:06:15
Speaker 4: Piano lessons. Oh, it's so dependent upon the person that I have to pick one or the other. So I would say.

01:06:26
Speaker 3: A gift, did you take piano lessons? I did not.

01:06:30
Speaker 4: My daughter did, and my daughter took various She went from piano lessons to she took accordion lessons.

01:06:38
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

01:06:39
Speaker 4: She she was inspired and she and she was inspired primarily initially by weird Al Yankovic.

01:06:47
Speaker 3: Oh of course, not the one. The one, yeah, the one made an accordion.

01:06:54
Speaker 4: Uh well, I mean it's in recent times sure, very Oh of course, you know, very famous in fact like that his I can't.

01:07:05
Speaker 3: Remember it, but there was, he was there, there was Maybe it wasn't. Al Yankovic was a big polka band, like a very famous poke band leader and it was Al Yankovic or and people always think that he's related, but he's separate, absolutely, But I don't think it's an now. I don't think that the Frankie Yankovic. Maybe that was, but he had a very famous polka band, especially being from Chicago. When I was a kid, there's polka was still a big I mean it was on the Wayne, sure, but there were still advertisements for polka albums on TV. And there were polka clubs, you know, within the city.

01:07:46
Speaker 4: And h and so there was Polka still existed.

01:07:51
Speaker 3: That's incredible, But that.

01:07:52
Speaker 4: Was you know that, that was, like I said, that was at the end of its run in the seventies. Yes, but piano lessons, I think would be like I wish I could sit down, Like it would be a lovely thing to be able to sit down and just play something simple on the piano.

01:08:08
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be a yes? Yeah, did you take piana? I took. Yeah, I did take piano lessons for from kindergarten until ninth grade. Yeah. Just hated them. Yeah, absolutely hated them. It was torture and it's a shame. I my piano teacher obviously, was just not a good piano teacher. Also, there's the element of being a child and not wanting to learn anything. But ten years of my life essentially wasted. I could be I could be able to play the piano right right, But I think as a parent you've got to find that sweet spot where the kid actually cares about it. Then you get them into a lesson rather than forcing otherwise you begin to resent it. Then I get to adulthood and I wish I had, which my parents told me at the time, you're going when you grow up you're going to wish you learned to play the piano. Yeah, you refuse to believe that. And now here I am piano free. Yeah. So it's it is a difficult thing. Uh. And I don't think I think that parents used.

01:09:11
Speaker 4: To just like there was sort of a rote sort of this is what I'm supposed to do.

01:09:15
Speaker 3: Yes, this is the lesson a child take.

01:09:17
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm supposed to inflict this on my child because and I don't think it was really questioned, like you're gonna take piano lessons and you're going to do it, and of course you don't like it, and of course, but it's teaching you something, it's teaching you sticktuitiveness. Yes, but I and I did take I took guitar lessons and I took Uh. I played the cornet. Oh, you're kidding in grade school, but I I was. I was terrible at it. I didn't like practicing and eventually and my my mother would sort of she did take input from me in terms of what I wanted to do and what I did fresh I do, but I do. But it is a difficult thing as a parent to know, and it's one of the most challenging things when you when you disregard your child's stated preference for an activity or a club or a hobby or something, and you're like, no, I stop it. This is better for you if you continue doing this, because you don't want your child to be miserable, but you also want to make sure they're not just taking the easy way out and saying no to everything. Yeah, And I, you know, and I could project my own sort of slovenliness on my own sloving liss as a child, being like no, I don't want to I just want to watch TV.

01:10:44
Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah, because that's all any of us actually wants to do. Yeah, Putting any effort forth is a challenge, yep. And it goes to.

01:10:52
Speaker 4: Big things too, Like my son is probably gonna he's he just you know, went back to his second semester of his freshman year of college and not very happy with where he is. And it's hard to know whether to say stick it out or pull the plug and do something else.

01:11:07
Speaker 3: Yes, it's probably still learning it the pain of difficulty or I don't actually like yes, which is a hard lesson to learn.

01:11:16
Speaker 4: And you, and as as a parent, you will hear one time, you will hear him say this thing, and you will think, oh, he's just a adjusting to being away from home and that and that this is freshman year for everybody, and that, you know, there's a certain amount of drudgery to to this to freshman year and early to the early stages of any kind of educational progress being.

01:11:40
Speaker 3: In a new city. I mean, it's just takes a long time to learn that. Oh, just being in a place that's not home, it is horrible.

01:11:47
Speaker 4: Get used to and you get used to it and you and it's and it becomes an enriching thing. And then on the other side there also is just you can be sort of skeptical, but then you can also be like, my baby is miserable.

01:12:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe there's something valid about what he's saying.

01:12:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so it's that And it's a tough judgment call that you cannot there's no one to consult other than your own instinct in.

01:12:12
Speaker 3: Your history will make a missay, yeah yeah whatever, Yeah, Okay, well I think we both agree. Then a piano lesson is a gift, I think so. I mean, this is the one piece of common ground we've been able to find it something for you math wise, Oh yeah, you know your brain is doing things that it doesn't do in any other situation, and then occasion, then you might be able to entertain people at a party at that point. Absolutely, Okay, Well you got two out of three. Not bad. That's like a C. That's like a that's a Yeah, it's a solid CIT. If it's sixty six, then it's more like a D. Is it there? Was it a C minus? No? I think it's like a solid say C minus C minus. You can get out of high school with the C minus. I did it. Final part of the podcast, Yes, this is called I Said No Questions. People are writing in asking for advice on what gifts to give people people in their own lives. They write into I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. If you're listening, you need help. Is gifting a particular issue with you? For me, it is because I want to give people things that will enrich their lives, things that they'll be that won't be a burden. But it's always truly, I feel like it really finds like the perfect anxiety in my brain where it's like I'm very conscious about spending money, but I'm also very conscious about wanting the people in my life. To be happy. So it's like these two things at war with each other where I want to spend as much money out as possible on them, but I also don't want to spend any money at all, so that immediately is trouble. But I also want them to know that I think about them and that there are parts of their personality I've noticed, or that I want their life to be better. So yeah, does that answer question?

01:14:00
Speaker 1: Yeah?

01:14:00
Speaker 4: I think so.

01:14:02
Speaker 3: Is gifting for you a difficult thing? Is a joyous thing?

01:14:07
Speaker 5: No?

01:14:07
Speaker 4: I like, I like giving gifts. I like giving people gifts and I and sometimes it's it can be sometimes I feel like I give a gift, I want to give somebody a nice gift, and then it feels like it can't just be a self contained act of niceness.

01:14:25
Speaker 3: If there's some sort of that somehow I expect something back out of it, or that it or that it shows a desire on my part for a bigger relationship or something. You know, you worked for Jimmy Kimmel, right, I did. He is a He is one of the gift masks. It's insane the level he'll go to to buy people gifts. Yes, and he cares so much about it. I mean, it speaks to him just being an incredible He is.

01:14:58
Speaker 4: One of the part like I've always his generosity. I feel like he must be murdering people on the side.

01:15:06
Speaker 3: There's something going on that he's making up.

01:15:08
Speaker 4: For killing drifters because he's just so he has such a nurturing, caring energy about him.

01:15:15
Speaker 3: Well he has. I mean, I've worked in various late night formats for various people, and Jimmy has every excuse to just be a shithead, yeah, an asshole, like a lot of these people are. And by the time I made it to him to he it was my first writing job, I just assumed, Oh, this guy's going to be a psychopath yea, and a selfish monster. Yeah, working for him will be hell yeah. And it was so it was so immediately untrue. It was like, Oh, I'm working for my uncle's business yea, and he cares about me, and he cares about everybody here. Yeah. And yeah. So as far as giving gifts, he does it for everybody, and he's very thoughtful. It's almost a superpower.

01:15:54
Speaker 4: It was maybe his manager somebody or somebody that he's worked with for years, one of his producers and making some where Where, And he was talking about how that person said, I don't give me a gifts I don't want like I don't want gifts. I don't want to give you gifts. I don't want to get gifts.

01:16:08
Speaker 3: Like very and Jimmy said, fuck you, I'm gonna give you gifts.

01:16:13
Speaker 4: I like giving you like, I'm not doing this for you, doing this for me. I enjoy by and I'm gonna go buy you nice things and you're gonna take it.

01:16:21
Speaker 3: You don't have to give me anything back. But that's the way it's gonna be. That's an incredible skillet. Yeah, yeah, and I and I relate to it. I do, like I mean, there are there are.

01:16:31
Speaker 4: Some times where there's people like like Conan has always been very complimentary towards gifts that I've given him. Sure, because we get like for his birthday, I'll get him a gift for his birthday. I don't really get him anything for Christmas because there also is like like he has a Christmas party every year, and a couple of years ago, I bought like about a one hundred dollars.

01:16:52
Speaker 3: Bottle of wine and brought it to him and I just kind of gave it to someone you're just like a cane clutter for his home.

01:16:59
Speaker 4: Right, And it's like and that wine, especially with wine, I feel like if I'm buying you like I and I will do this when I go to people's houses and they're having a party. If I spend some money and it's a nice bottle of wine, I'll be like, here it is, I'm gonna put this in the cupboard because you need to drink this later. Don't let these lushes open this up and waste it.

01:17:20
Speaker 3: Is No, that's an actual thing. You cared about.

01:17:23
Speaker 4: Wine, you and your loved ones. This is a nice one, so keep it separate. But like I just now, when I go to Siss's party, I don't take anything.

01:17:30
Speaker 3: Why would you like why he's probably not even aware of that bottle of wine, and then it's probably not absolutely cleaning person probably drink and then heaven forbid. But in the notion of you know, but there is that like I don't want to go empty handed, of course, but there are people where it's like, yeah, I think there is a level that you reach that very few of us reach. When people are buying you gifts. It's just like a silly this is an inconvenient for both of us at this point.

01:17:56
Speaker 4: But I do try very hard to get him nice things, like I bought him, you know, over the year. Like one of his favorite things I ever bought him was a refurbished old bake like phone oh wow in his home office. And he says he always like like he'll have phone calls that he wants to make that he'll go purposely use that phone because it feels incredible talking to the past or what is it?

01:18:20
Speaker 3: What color of phone is? It's black? Oh, I bet it's like an old detective exactly. It looks like.

01:18:25
Speaker 4: It's from a noir film and it was just there was this place that was taking the old guts out and putting new guts in. But it's still is a rotary and it still has that big that's beautiful.

01:18:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:18:37
Speaker 4: But like I bought him a Civil War sword and you know, just try to.

01:18:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are actually right up his alley.

01:18:46
Speaker 4: This is a sculpture and things, you know.

01:18:48
Speaker 3: So, but do you like getting receiving gifts. I'm very uncomfortable receiving gifts because I mean, despite the fact that I'm now running a podcast where I'm asking people, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I feel like people. I don't like that people have gone out of their way. Yeah, I don't like that they didn't spend the money on themselves. Yeah. I mean this is like a point of contention with my boyfriend and I every year is like, what do you want for Christmas? And I try to push him off as far as I can. He's like, you have to tell me I am going to buy you something, so stop it. But it's just it makes me feel guilty or something. Yeah, I'm not. I'm way better giving them than getting them. Yeah, I think it is an easier thing to do. And I think I also I'm like one of those people that just buy what I want. Sure, yeah, no, Rachel, don't and you buy the things you're and I'll tell my kids, like because it just seems silly that I'll like to tell my kids, you know, like I want those headphones. Oh yeah, of course. It's just like and someone I can just go to Best Buy and get myselm.

01:19:44
Speaker 4: And then I tell my kids, hey, you bought me these headphones.

01:19:46
Speaker 3: Sure write me a car, yeah, because I say something like my fucking money anyway. So but yeah, I don't.

01:19:54
Speaker 4: And I and there are times when somebody will give me something, and I also to It's odd because I like giving things, but I also am unsible unsentimental about my own belongings. Sure, like, somebody gives me something nice, and I'm kind of like, Eh, it's just a thing, and if it gets ruined or broken or lost, it's just it was going to happen at some point.

01:20:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a thing. It doesn't you know. And that person's still in my life. Yeah, I still care about each other. Yeah. Okay, Well, with all that in mind, let's answer a couple of questions here. Okay, this person says, Hi Bridger, the other day, I accidentally ended a phone call to my girlfriend saying I love you. It's been a little awkward between us, and her birthday is next week. What's a nice, nice gift that says happy birthday. Hey, I'm sorry I said I love you too soon into the relationship. That's from Eli in Boulder, Colorado. Hmm, so he's accidentally said he loves her. Yeah, he wants to give her something. It steps it back slightly. Yes, you're now in just a horrible position. I would say, uh, jewelry.

01:21:05
Speaker 4: No, No, it's easier to say yeah, I would say it's easier to get things, it's easier to say no to things. So things that are sort of more your traditional romantic gifts, I would say no to that.

01:21:16
Speaker 3: Do not shower her with roses. Yes, although if she does have like a particular sort of like this is, this would be.

01:21:24
Speaker 4: A perfect example of like you could and you have to think about it. You have to tailor it to her. But like some kind of electronic thing, okay, like if she yeah, like if she you know, like I said, it's a pair of like really nice headphones.

01:21:41
Speaker 3: An e reader, it's not what that's called. It's not an electronic like a Kindle. Oh I thought you. I thought you meant e meeter like the Scientology. Okay, so what you need to do with this woman Take her to your local Scientology chapter and introduce her to Yeah, I mean you've said I love you now eat the rest of your life? What gift? What says I love you more than Dianette? Yes? Just get her into something where she's going to be buying a lot of books and paying for various sessions, right right, and just kind of separating herself from her family and friends. That and then you've really got her because she knows you. It'll just be you and her and David misskevitch A. It's and this is easier. Well, but back to this guy, it would be easier. It's easy for me to say, like a nice piece of clothing. Oh sure, like a cool sweater, Yeah, or a cool sweater because it's it's it has a kind of a personal thing you can wrap she can wrap herself in it. But it's not so it's not a necklace. Yeah, it's a ring, it's not you know, I was going to say this is some sort of experience, but then I immediately is like, no, you don't want to give her something that's like now we're gonna even spend even more time to get She needs something that she can run from you with. Yes, because maybe she's weirded out at this point. Yeah. Yeah, so like a nice luxury, cool item that she might buy on her own, has not really nothing to do with him. Yes, I think that's smart advice.

01:23:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, something that isn't not too sentinal, but it's nice, yeah, thoughtful, but not.

01:23:17
Speaker 3: Too which like when you break up, she could still weary and without thinking about that, yeah, yeah, or she can wear on your fiftieth anniverse, right, right, solve the problem. Next person, hybridger. My husband's birthday is coming up. He loves plants, but we have plenty of those. He also likes bikes, but that's out of my budget. What would you recommend lydia in San Diego plants? I could not advise. There's one plant that I keep trying to remember to recommend people buy because it's the one thing that won't die in your home. But I obviously she's not buying in plants anyway. But next podcast, I'm going to know this the name of this plant because it's incredible. It requires no watering or some that's a separate issue. Let's talk about this man. He obviously enjoys things that are kind of outdoors. They have plenty of plants. She's not buying him of a bike?

01:24:12
Speaker 4: Sure, well, if are they? If they're just indoor plants, that's kind of tough. If it's outdoor plants, and you know there's there's garden y kind.

01:24:25
Speaker 3: Of accessory tools. Yeah, sort of gloves a little or yeah, a nice sort of spade or something. But you know, I don't know that they make these, but maybe they should a spade with his name on it. Hang that in the garden shade. Take it to an engraver. Yeah there go, that could be a nice or I would think a nice uh an art book of old, beautiful illustrated plants like yeah.

01:24:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, sort of liqued whatever you know autumn was to birds. Maybe there's some.

01:24:58
Speaker 3: Guarantee hes out there somewhere, Yeah, some beautiful uh historical guide to the plant world. What about a damn watering can? There you go. Everybody can use a watering can, absolutely mind a real nice one. I bet there's a nice decorative can that sure? Please? Lydia's husband plants and bicycling too, I mean, yeah, who is bike helmet? Bike helmet? Well dy owns you know, hopefully he already owns one, but if not, get the man a bike bike helmet, a bike lights, some bike headed back to gloves? Why not a pair of gardening gloves. Yeah, and a pair of biking gloves.

01:25:38
Speaker 4: Or you know, they make these beautiful uh old leather bike seat oh, to replace your your regular seat. And then what's nice about them is that they actually do become a contoured to your nethers.

01:25:53
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, much like a pair of leather pants exactly. Oh okay Brooks.

01:25:59
Speaker 4: Brook saddles the old and it's the same company as English Comedy that has been making them forever.

01:26:05
Speaker 3: How do you know about these bike seats?

01:26:07
Speaker 4: I know a lot of shit about a lot of dumb stuff.

01:26:09
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, I think accessorizing is the way to go. I think, just in general gift giving, you just find out the person's main interest and then just do the smaller aspect of it, something that will aid the an accessory to it. Okay, Well, you know, I think we've we've done enough here. I should say we've helped people rob much more than they probably deserve.

01:26:36
Speaker 2: Oh.

01:26:36
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And this was free advice from none other than Andy Richter. Precisely, he's wearing a beautiful Dolly Parton shirt, so we know that he's on the right side. Well, I think that that's the end of the podcast. Andy, Well, thank you for having had you. And I'm so thrilled about this Stanham jacket that I'm glad storming around town. It's also too I just.

01:26:57
Speaker 4: And I didn't even think about it until I but as a ginger wearing a cone and denim jacket.

01:27:03
Speaker 3: Oh, this could be very confusing paper. Yeah, they might think like, what is this? Yeah, yes, some sort of little club ginger core, Yes, or I could you know, maybe sneak on stage. Yeah, you know, this could lead to something that would be really difficult, sneak on our stage high security.

01:27:23
Speaker 5: Yeah.

01:27:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Well, Andy, God bless thank you for having me. Truly wonderful and uh yeah, that's the end of the show, all right. I said no gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter. At I said no gifts, And if you have a question or need help getting a gift for someone in your life, email me at I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're at it.

01:28:01
Speaker 2: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're I guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty.

01:28:17
Speaker 1: And I said, no, guess, your own presence is presence enough.

01:28:24
Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me,