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Whoa, oh my goodness. 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: The Eagles have put the first points on the board, 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: and before you're even thinking, no, it's not snowing. It's 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: not an incredible rainstorm. There's not been some active God. 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: This is not Magnolia where the frogs start flying out everywhere. No, 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: this is just a Monday night football game Philadelphia and 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay. It's a little chili but okay. The first 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: points of the game on the board in the third 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: quarter an Eagles field goal to make it three nothing. 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Some interesting notes on this one. The first Monday night 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: football game to go into halftime scoreless since two thousand 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: and nine. Cleveland Jets involved in that game. But the 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Browns work, Oh that makes sense, So that makes sense. 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Sounds Raiders, Brown's Ravens. Ah, Brown's Raiders. 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: Would be much better. 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: And then the Ravens rattled off sixteen points, including an 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: interception return for a touchdown. That was Ray Rice and 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's rookie year going all the way back in 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: the time machine. No, what a miserable first half. I mean, 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: the highlight was that they called a false start on 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak. 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a highlight. 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: And that didn't call one on a toush push where 45 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: they were off to the races. So you know, it's 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: one of those things where like those are the highlights, 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: and right now Jordan Love is on pace to barely 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: eclipse the passing yardage of Justin Fields from Yester. I mean, really, 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: would you say Justin Field's throwing for fifty four yards? Like, well, 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: no one's gonna oh no, no, no, just wait, no 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: one's gonna get under that. Hang on a second, judge, Yah, 52 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: wait a minute. These guys are making Aaron Rodgers look 53 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: good last night. Dude, this guy, this looks like they're 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: making Aaron Rodgers if he was fused with Justin Fields 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: in some sort of super quarterback, making them look like, hey, 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: this is a this is an easy day for Sam Darnold. 57 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: For me, this is an easy day for me at 58 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: the top of the food chain. If I'm Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: that was a game that I'm really glad I didn't 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money for last night. As the 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: Steelers came to so far to play the Chargers. Man, 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: look great effort, Chargers taking care of business. But I 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: want a game that was not a game, that was 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: not a game that became a scrimmage. Jet looks like, man, 65 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: that looks like Rams Chiefs, you know, fifty four fifty game. 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, absolutely nothing, nothing at halftime, a game that 67 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: is devoid of highlights. It's devoid of everything. Again, we're 68 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: the show you want to tune to because we know 69 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: bad football. 70 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: Now. 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: I know bad football better than you because your team 72 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: is actually good winning now yeah, bad football. Hey, you 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: know that's my wheelhouse man. And there has nothing been 74 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: so far this year worse than this game, even Jets 75 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: thirteen eleven with the Broncos a couple of weeks ago. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 76 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: this is worse right here. Oh no, this has just 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: been on. Why well yet two near scoring drives that 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: ended with terrible plays by their respective quarterbacks and fumbles 79 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. You had literally two drives took 80 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: up the entire quarter. You just zero points. You know, 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: I just think about the people playing fantasy tonight, and 82 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: not that they involved, but people that are starting hurts 83 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: and love because you know, you start wide receivers and 84 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: running backs. Sometimes you have a big nights and you 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: don't have a big night. Obviously, with the Packers wide 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 1: receiver situation week to week, it changes, right, and running 87 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: the football, okay, you know, Jacobs is your guy, your thing. 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: But on the eagle side, okay, I'm rolling dice with 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: aj Brown. I want to think DeVante Smith. Okay, Barkley 90 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: is not quite the same guy, but you get you 91 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: get a varying amounts, you know, from from your skill 92 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: position players. But just think about people who are playing 93 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: tonight and they say, yeah, I just need ten points 94 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: out of love to win, or I just need ten 95 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: points out of jail, which I'm gonna get in the 96 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: first half. I'm worried about it now. It's like, man, 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: I need ten points. We're midway through the third quarter. 98 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: It's three nothing. Man, this is not good, Man, not good. 99 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: No, it's awful. 100 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean you talk about the lost fumble points too, 101 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: so depending on your league setting, you're chasing those. But 102 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, for the Packers with no craft, okay, Musgrave 103 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: steps up. But you know, every week it seems to 104 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: be a different wide receivers, so you're certainly not really 105 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: diving into that that mess for lack of a better term, 106 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: but you're expecting Josh Jacobs to be able to run 107 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: the ball to some level of effectiveness just thirty eight 108 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: yards thus far, Barkley eleven carries for forty six he 109 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: out of fifteen yard It's like, okay, that begins it, right, 110 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Remember going back before the bye is first one hundred 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: yard game of the season. Here we go and then 112 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: nothing and just getting stuffed at the line. Yeah, and 113 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: then Lane Johnson has to be carted off with an 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: ankle injury. I mean, you just had one thing after another. 115 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: This is this is a bad football game. But it's 116 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Packers and they're both at the 117 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: top of the NFC, so we always have to default 118 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: to as long as it's close. It's okay. As long 119 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: as it's close late for our purpose. Look, we win. 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: We don't need to talk about any part of this 121 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: game other than the end as long as stuff because like, 122 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: who really three nothing mill third quarter? Yeah? Can we 123 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: just fast forward? You know what, this is a defensive battle. 124 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying these struggles. He didn't believe me at all. 125 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: You know, when you want to a funny story when 126 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: working at ESPN, when I was at a PA and 127 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: working on Sports Center, Right, every highlight that gets edited 128 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: at night gets a certain amount of time, right, and 129 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: the big games get an important game, you get longer 130 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: like usually bullet bullet points for a highlight. Everybody got 131 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: thirty seconds for one of the games they're cutting. Now 132 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: other games get a minute. Sure, if it's a bigger game. 133 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes the game goes crazy and it's great. You get 134 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: like a minute and a half highlight. Then they tell you, 135 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: tell you, hey, you're cutting Rangers twins. We're not running 136 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: a highlight like this game was. You know, four to one. 137 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: Nothing happened where you're not going to go on a highlight. 138 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: So like, but then the games that are big, you 139 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: have no choice because you know the game is big 140 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: and people want to see it. Like they would say 141 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: nothing happened the first three quarters. Cut everything from what 142 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: happened in the fourth quarter, just say hey, three nothing 143 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. That's where we can't start there, 144 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Yes we can. Yeah, if nothing happened, nothing happens. So 145 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: we don't need the first three quarter as long as 146 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: the end is good. So I'm hoping trying to be 147 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: positive here day that hey, it's been a craptastic game 148 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: so far, it's been all but hey we still have 149 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: a quarter and a half or maybe something good now. 150 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: You never know, maybe there's a defensive touchdown. 151 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: No, I don't know, but it's just kind of funny 152 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: watching this this game. And as we were getting ready 153 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: to transition with Robin and Carry coming out to the 154 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: odd couple, uh, they did the Hey, here's the first 155 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: half highlights. It was all b roll from pregame and 156 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: then the two fumbles. Yeah, I was saying, not a 157 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: lot of highlights. No, not a lot of highlights. 158 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: No, nothing, nothing going. 159 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: So we'll keep you updated on this again. Three nothing 160 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: Eagle with the lead. Well again, you're happy if you 161 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: have the under right now and a half was the 162 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: over under kick out. I feel pretty good about that 163 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: right now? What's the new indgame over? 164 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: I am looking up as we speak. 165 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Seven. That would be entertaining, no question about let's say 166 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: we are currently at well, actually it's not even on 167 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: my board, and that's how bad. They just decided we're 168 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: done with this. They will, let you bet it, they will. 169 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: So again, we'll have more in this game. Hopefully it 170 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: gets better for all of us. Hopefully this gets better. 171 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: But big news today in the NFL we got Jason 172 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: locking Forest up and by in about twelve minutes. With 173 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: more on this, but the Giants fire Brian Dable after 174 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: blowing their lead to the Bears yesterday. The Bears come 175 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: from behind. It we'll have big stuff on Caleb Williams. 176 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: We got a great hot take on Caleb Williams coming 177 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: up a little bit. But Dable gets fired. The Giants 178 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: blow a ten point lead in the fourth quarter. It's 179 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: the fourth fourth quarter lead they have blown. We watch 180 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: the Bears come from behind to win twenty five or 181 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: twenty and quite honestly, I feel pretty pretty solid saying this. 182 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: If Brian Dabele could have done it over again, he 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: would have gone for the touchdown on fourth and one 184 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: from the half yard line instead of kicking a field 185 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: goal to give themselves a twenty to ten lead in 186 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: the fourth court. 187 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: Probably a pretty fair bet right there. 188 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing is that Dable got fired for 189 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. Right The team never got past 190 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: the promise that they had three and a half years ago, 191 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: when Daniel Jones had a really good last couple of 192 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: years and Dable gets the Giants to the playoffs, You're thinking, Okay, 193 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: they got it going on and Barkley's gonna be back healthy. 194 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: But they never got there. And it's not like they 195 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: didn't bring in new people, try new philosophies, and look, guys, 196 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: it's not his fault. The milk neighbors is hurt. Not 197 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: his fault. The camp Scattabo got hurt. But the Giants 198 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: had seen enough of Brian dabele led teams blowing games, 199 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: and what really came to a head. Quite honestly, you 200 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: can say it's not about that one play. It kind 201 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: of is right, because look, they had chances later on 202 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: in the game. They could have they could have held on, 203 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: but you know, they shank a twenty six yard punt. 204 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: You know, there's other things, but it all goes under 205 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: the umbrella of being the head coach. But when you're 206 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: two and seven and you have a chance to go 207 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: up two touchdowns, you have fourth and goal and you 208 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: kick a field goal to go up to okay, I 209 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: get it. But then you get a penalty that puts 210 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: the ball in the half yard line, and Brian Dable 211 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: still decided I'm gonna take the points. I'm not gonna 212 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: go for it to go up ten points here and 213 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: in a vacuum and in a season where maybe you're 214 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: five hundred, or you're six and four, or you're seven 215 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: and three, okay, with the team successful, he's made a 216 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: lot of good decisions. He's trusting his defense, right, that's 217 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: the real But when you're two and seven, it's why 218 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: are you not going for it? You're on the half 219 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: yard line. You can't get a half yard. I get, 220 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: you don't have scattaboy, I get, but I get and 221 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: I get you're down, you know, and Jackson Dart had 222 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: gotten hurt too. I understand that. But you're on the 223 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: half yard line. You should be able to get a 224 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: half yard and if you don't get it, you don't 225 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: get it. It's not like it's gonna crush. You're two 226 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: and seven. It doesn't matter like that. That was the decision. 227 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: That was the final straw that told the Giants, if 228 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: we lose this game, he's gone. Because nothing has gotten 229 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: better and it's been a hole. It's like a big 230 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: hamster wheel that they've had. We're just running in place 231 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: and hoping that things are going to change. But that 232 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: moment that was it simply because of the way the 233 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: season is going. It's I know it's elementary to say, well, 234 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: we're two and seven, what does it matter? But no, 235 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: but really that's it. It's two and seven. What does 236 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: it matter? Go for it, go up two touchdowns. If 237 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: you don't get it, all right, you went for it, 238 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: you couldn't do it. You shrug your shoulders. Okay, that's fine, 239 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, but the fact that they went scared at 240 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 1: that point that helped give the Bears a lot of momentum, 241 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: telling them, okay, you know what, Oh the Giants they're 242 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: not really they're really convinced. They've been working us for 243 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: three quarters, but they're not convinced they can they can 244 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: close this thing out. And that lets them back up 245 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: off the mat. And who knows that the Bears would 246 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: have won, because you know, at twenty four, maybe the 247 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: Giant's gone. You know, it's twenty four to twenty four 248 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: at that point, maybe, and they're going to overtime. But 249 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: the fact that he goes and gives you such a 250 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: timid response when you're two and seven and you're on 251 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: the half yard line, that's where the Giants and Joe, 252 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Shane and Mark they said, this guy's not our guy anymore, 253 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: and we're sick of the blown leads, we're sick of everything. 254 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: This is the final straw. If he had done it differently, 255 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: maybe he's still the Giants head coach day. But he didn't, 256 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: and that really was it. 257 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: You can't ple no. 258 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: That was the one thing that said, well, we're thinking, 259 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: we're thinking about okay, now we just have to do 260 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: it well. And you have a guy in the building, 261 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: and you know, the shameless Northwestern plug for Mike Kafka 262 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: getting promoted. But he's a guy that's been a finalist 263 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: at least the last two cycles in terms of potential 264 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: head coaches. So he gets nearly a half season to 265 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: see what he can do. Does he have any killer 266 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: in steaking and fight in him, which clearly Brian Dable 267 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: had that taken out of him the last couple of weeks. 268 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: I mean the percentage chances. I mean you're looking at 269 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: win probabilities of ninety six, ninety eight whatever. I saw 270 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: one place taking the odds of them losing all three 271 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: of those games like one in sixty thousand. So scratch 272 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: off a lottery numbers. Whether that's fuzzy math or not, 273 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was entertaining. I wasn't gonna break out 274 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: the calculator for it, but you get the point. These 275 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: are almost games that are in the cooler, as they say, 276 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: But for Brian Dable, You know, you talk about the 277 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: recklessness to a degree of how things have been handled 278 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: with Jackson Dart probably didn't play well with Mara and 279 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: ownership as much as you know that guy plays with 280 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: his hair on fire. How many times he been in 281 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: a tent four five. You had that big controversy of 282 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: trying to cajole him out of the tent a couple 283 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: of weeks ago where they got fined and it was 284 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: just a terrible look for the NFL. And you know, 285 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: one that gets picked up into all the non sports 286 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: shows of hey they talk safety, Look what they did 287 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: to this guy. So like it's just been a convergence 288 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: of a million bad stories and here where you have 289 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: a chance to kill what was the surging Chicago story, right, 290 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: that whole narrative and at least put people at at 291 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: ease for a moment of all right, there's still some 292 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: fight in this squad. You let them off the hook. 293 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: You want, Dennis green Man, You let them off the hook. 294 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: And that's why you're gonna be an offensive coordator somewhere 295 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: for next year. That's what's gonna happen. There's Brian Dable like, 296 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: like how McDermott was frosty when asked about it. I 297 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: think we're okay. Exit up about a Fresca exit swollen dub. 298 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's that one bad decision that will get you fired. 299 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: Getting a new job can be much easier with Express 300 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: Employment Professionals. 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Are the Ravens really 310 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna win the AFC North? 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Check us out 327 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 5: on YouTube and subscribe. 328 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my Hi 329 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: best friend Mike Harmon. 330 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: I'm standing up in the studio. 331 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no one's doing that because it's three nothing Eagles 332 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: with the lead over the Packers. Yeah, three might be 333 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: too many points them to overcome. 334 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: It's true. 335 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: The Wenbin Yama three pointer against my Bulls almost got 336 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: me stand up. We had a three pointer from Wemby 337 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: and that's just as many points we've seen tonight. Yeah, 338 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: between the Eagles and the Packers. Three nothing headed to 339 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. 340 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: Monday Night thriller ten week ten. 341 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: More on this game as we continue as it merits 342 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: it if we need to, But joining us now for 343 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: all the big news in the National Football League today. 344 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Longtime NFL Insidner. He's on Twitter at Jason lock and 345 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: fora check him out on WAA bet Odyssey one of 346 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: five seven the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post Jay, what's happening, man, 347 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: I hope you had the under tonight. 348 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't. They didn't go heavy with it, as 349 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: I like, that's for Dan throw. Unfortunately, I had a 350 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: couple of touchdown parlays, So game on me. 351 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: Did you have it? 352 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Did you have a one time anytime touchdown parlay in 353 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: this game? 354 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: I mean I did play Hurts at plus one thirty 355 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: five straight up and Jacob's three receptions in at any 356 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: time touchdown and ain't go crazy with it. But uh yeah, 357 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 2: not looking good? All right? 358 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Well, listen, let's get to other more exciting news of 359 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: the day than what we've seen so far tonight. Look, 360 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: Brian Dable gets fired as Giants head coach not going 361 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: for it on fourth and one. Really the the cherry 362 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: on top of the Sunday of the Giants blown leads 363 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter this season. When you heard that 364 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: news today, was it the right call? Should they have waited? 365 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: What? 366 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 5: What? 367 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: What? 368 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: What do you make of this? Now that you've had 369 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: a few hours to digest it. 370 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, I run in the Washington Post 371 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: based on what I was here, and he was pretty 372 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: much cooked after the Denver game. You lose game like that, 373 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: you know, on top of a couple of years of 374 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: pretty much object failure and losing. Uh, somebody's gonna eat it. 375 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: And Mary's old school. You know, he thinks he needs 376 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: his GM to get him through the season, which is 377 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: kind of ridiculous. But yeah, and then you keep bowling 378 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: games in the fourth quarter and the quarterback keeps being 379 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: in the medical tent, and you know, you've got caught 380 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: cheering into the medical tent a few weeks back when 381 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: you had no business being there. There's just I mean, 382 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: but the optics are bad. The you know, you got neighborshood, 383 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: you got hurt, you got shatborrow hurt. Not that that's 384 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: all on the head coach, but you've got a lot 385 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: of frustration mounting there, and you've got another well season 386 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: taking hold well before Thanksgiving. So no, I'm not surprised 387 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: that this was somebody who came into the year with 388 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: his job very much on the life. And there have 389 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 2: been some good things there for sure with the quarterback, 390 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: but you know, everybody's going to want to work with 391 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: that quarterback now, like they're gonna have you know, funny 392 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: people who look at that job as being more attractive 393 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: now that it's been in some previous cycles, specifically because 394 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: of that quarterback. And the quarterback looks pretty well developed now. 395 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: I don't think the idea of like Brian Gables the 396 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: only guy could get to that and like. 397 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: Stop yeah, I Jay. That's the whole thing is that 398 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: I think this is already, no matter what, we see 399 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the most attractive job of the season offseason cycle because 400 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: of Dart and Scataboo and Neighbors comes back next year. 401 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: In the defensive line, it's hey, I'm in a position 402 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: to succeed. I think you might see guys that's good 403 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: that have gigs now say hey, wait a minute, I 404 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: would leave. I want to go to the giants. What 405 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: are some names you wouldn't be surprised to hear, you 406 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: know for giants when when they start looking full time, 407 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: unless you know by Kafka reels off like seven wins 408 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: in a. 409 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: Row, well yeah that's not gonna happen. I mean, look 410 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: this we turns through these guys so quickly. I mean 411 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: I don't know who people would be super fired up 412 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: about right now. I don't know, you know, like the 413 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 2: hot coordinator thing, Like I feel like we've kind of 414 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: exalted in m may think you know, the very s 415 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: out on call going. Uh, you know, Zach Robinson can't 416 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: do anything as an OC with Atlanta, Like, I don't 417 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: know who the next guy up there would be the 418 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: group of guys who have been fired already and are 419 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: going to be fired. I don't see them getting another chance, 420 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: like Mike McCarthy, Like you look at the gambling odds. 421 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Jason Garrett and Mike McCarthy are there, Like really, 422 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: what the hell? I mean? Look, does he get bad 423 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh? You know? Like is that the end? I mean, 424 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: I would think they would be Mike Tomlin in New York. 425 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: That would seem to be a perfect match. Now again, 426 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: we'll have to see how that plays out there, and 427 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: a lot of things would have to come to pass. 428 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: But like if you're asking me people who could maybe 429 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: be out there who might interest them. But I mean 430 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: if people talk about Cliff Knny Perry, stop come on, man, 431 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: like Ben mc to do three point zero? Like, I 432 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: don't know, guys I don't know. There's a pretty good 433 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: chance if Mara hires him, he'll stink. That's what I 434 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: do know. 435 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: There you have it. 436 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: I've seen the lane kiff and battle, not just for 437 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: the college range, but potentially for this one as well. 438 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: His name's been bandied about, but since you mentioned Mike Tomlin, 439 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: other than this Monday night football game, that Pittsburgh effort, 440 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: other than a bad pass to DK Metcalf that had 441 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: hope for until it left Roger's hand, was about as 442 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: dismal an effort as you see. 443 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: I mean, look, Keith on his last legs. I mean, 444 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: he's basically cooked. And to think that now the weather 445 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: is starting to turn right and the schedules ramped up 446 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: and the deadlines pass. So it is what it is. 447 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: It's still players are still players. He's gonna bring out 448 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: the worst in him. I still got a lot of 449 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: division games to come, and people in this division can 450 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: play a little defense outside of you know, Cincinnati, and 451 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: Cincinnati still already found a way to be one point 452 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: or whatever better than him last time. So you know, 453 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: I think you're going to see the frustration boil over 454 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: you already have. I just don't you know, I don't 455 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: think he's someone at this stage of his career who 456 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: you could remotely think is going to get better as 457 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 2: the season goes off, and you need to stack wins early. 458 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: You need to get him confident. You need to be 459 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: able to incubate him. They can't play from behind at 460 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: all like that. That's if they can get thirty five 461 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: to forty run plays off some way, somehow the script 462 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: allows that, and the defense is creating turnovers on that day, 463 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: then they can win. But that's a tough needle to threat. 464 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: And you're not going to be able to come back 465 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: on anybody with this guy who's your quarterback at this 466 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 2: stage of his career. You're just not me. The only 467 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 2: time he wants to push the ball down the field 468 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: is when it's a hill Mary against a free man rush. 469 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: Like that's it, Jay. 470 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: When it comes to that division. Now, obviously the Ravens 471 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: are back in the mix. You're there in Baltimore. The 472 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: defense seems like they magically fixed itself a couple of 473 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Again, what what, what what has happened? I mean, really, 474 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: as bad as it was to begin with, I thought 475 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: the season was over after Week one, and now look 476 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: at where they are. Now I'm knocking on the door 477 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: at the top of the division, like like, like, what's 478 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: happened outside of Lamar coming back? Like what's happened? Because 479 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: you know he's not making the defense better. 480 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: Well, before we go crazy, table Williams far and away. Okay, 481 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: they faced Stafford. They ended up giving up seventeen there. 482 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: You know, the Rams were about to fly the long man, 483 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: like that game was over at seventeen to three. You know, 484 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: like Cooper Rush wasn't going to move the ball at all. 485 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 2: So if you want to give him credit for that, like, okay, 486 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: you know, Adams drops a couple of touchdown passes, hurt 487 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: his ankle real early in the game, But like go 488 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: look at who they play. I mean, you know, like Bailable, 489 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: you know JJ McCarthy. I mean, he can't throw the 490 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: ball past the line of scrimmage. Like they're going to 491 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 2: get Dylan Gabriel last week, then they're gonna get whether 492 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: it's Taylor or Field. They you know, I think that's 493 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: got a whole lot to do with it. 494 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: They don't really have a pass rush, they've got good secondary, 495 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: and they haven't really been attacked with running backs and 496 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 4: tight ends lately. 497 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: In the past game. But I still think they're really 498 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: vulnerable to that. But they can get three safeties on 499 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: the field now with the Gilman trade with the Chargers, 500 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: and that allows them to keep Kyle Hamilton around the 501 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage where he needs to be, and that's 502 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: helping the pass rush, that's helping the blitz, and that's 503 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: helping them knock down balls to the line of scrimmage, 504 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: which is really what's going on. Even more so than 505 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: in sacks and pressures, they've been able to disrupt the 506 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: ball in flight coming out of the quarterback's hands. So 507 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 2: I again like they're not a lot of things have 508 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: brooked their way in terms of who they're facing and 509 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: the way this schedule works, and they're going to continue 510 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: to feast for a couple more weeks and we'll see. 511 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: I mean, they do this every year, Like even did 512 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: this under McDonald, as good as he was calling plays. 513 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: They start slow, they have to make some personnel adjustments, 514 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: some scheme adjustments, and then they'd be much better in 515 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: the second half. And that's certainly the case right now. 516 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: Currently minus two fifty to win the division implies a 517 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: seventy one and a half percent Pittsburgh at plus two fifty. 518 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: But now Joe Burrow is going to return plus eighteen hundred, 519 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: too little, too late? Are just are they just talking 520 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: about wishing and hoping here? 521 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: Jay? 522 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we're going to say until you know, 523 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: closer to the mid mid December. But if we even 524 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: see him at all, because they lose three more games 525 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: before he comes back, what did you really bring it 526 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: him back for? I mean, what what is the risk 527 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: we ward there? And that would be like the leading 528 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: leaving Jade Daniels in the game the other day on 529 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: steroids like that would be doing that on crack. You know, 530 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: we got no offensive line, we can't stop anybody defensively. 531 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 2: Let's let Joe Burrow thro you know, Let's let Joe 532 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: Burrow come out there, rusty in a lost, lost season 533 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: and throw the ball fifty five times a game while 534 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: Zach Tellen tries to save his job. But I dare him, 535 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: I dare you to do that. I dare you. 536 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: So, Jay, when it comes to it, when it comes 537 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: to this division now okay, because it's not now, it's 538 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: gone from Boy, it's so bad, it's fun. If I 539 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: said to you, what's the big thing. What do you 540 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: expect end of the year, who winds up at the 541 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: top of this division? 542 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's Baltimore. I mean they still 543 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: have five division games to play, including two with Pittsburgh. 544 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: They play Cincinnati twice in a three weeks span. Now 545 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: is it going to be Burrow for one of those games? 546 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: Is a flat go for both? I don't know, but yeah, 547 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 2: I mean it sets up pretty well for Baltimore. But 548 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh, I mean, they're never It's like it's never 549 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: ever till it's over. I mean, Tomlin's never had a 550 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 2: losing season, but you look at their schedule, you could 551 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: play the win lost win win lost game. But like 552 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: they'll probably beat Buffalo, you know, now they also lose 553 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: to Cleveland. Like I I don't know, but I mean 554 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: Baltimore's closed the gap enough to now where I think 555 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: a reasonable person would have to say the Ravens are 556 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: gonna win this division. 557 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jason Locke and four that is 558 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: at Jason lock and for a wanna bet Odyssey Washington 559 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: Post one oh five seven. The fan in Baltimore Jays 560 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: always Buddy appreciate it. I hope we get more points 561 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, so at least you didn't miss anything. 562 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: While you're talking to us, everything is still. 563 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: The same about holding my breath. 564 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: There goes Jason lock and for I mean, look, this 565 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: is this is one of those situations where you know, 566 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago it was the Ravens can't come 567 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: back from here. But remember when we tell you the 568 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: Steelers stink, well the division as a whole. As much 569 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: as I love Joe Flacco, yes, the Browns come off 570 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: to the Jets. That right now, if Burrow comes back Thanksgiving, 571 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, maybe you never know. That's it, Flood. 572 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: But man, they're eighteen to one. Vision is eighteen to one. 573 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: If you want to go down that path, bad, It's bad, man, 574 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: it's bad. But no, it's awful, right Cleveland. Cleveland's terrible. 575 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, did you actually want to win this game? 576 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's hard. Far you find the trade 577 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: already got you some picks. Yeah, I was fine when 578 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: because no matter who the if the Jets pick a quarterback, 579 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: whoever it is, it's going to be wrong. So I'd 580 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: rather almost them to pick be a little bit lower 581 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: so we get like Caleb Downs. You know, maybe that'll 582 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: work and and uh and that'll be better because if 583 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: we pick a quarterback, whoever we pick is wrong. So 584 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: I was absolutely okay until he gets to three teams 585 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: to separation. Yeah no, okay, yeah, I'm completely but yeah. 586 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: By by odds, their seventy two percent favorites the Ravens 587 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: to win the division at this point, exit ou about 588 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: a Fresca exit swelling Dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live 589 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We have what's trending 590 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: and breaking news well right now from special delivery Steve 591 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: de Sager, because we have a six point touchdown in 592 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: the Monday night football game. 593 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, six points on one night shot. 594 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: Just want to make sure people know you can get 595 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: six points on one play in the NFL. You're watching 596 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: this game. You don't know that until just now. 597 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 6: There are people that pay good money for this in 598 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 6: Green Bay, Wisconsin, and it's about thirty degrees and the 599 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 6: Packers are getting shut out. With ten and a half 600 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 6: minutes to go, it's Eagles ten nothing now. DeVante Smith 601 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 6: a thirty six yard reception from Jalen Hurts. Each quarterback 602 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 6: had fumbled in this game. It was scoreless at halftime. Tonight, 603 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 6: Eagles kicked a thirty nine yard field goal in the 604 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 6: third quarter. Now it's early in the fourth now. On 605 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 6: the very first drive of the night, sixteen plays worth 606 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 6: for the Eagles, it ended in a Jalen Hurts fumble. 607 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 6: Each quarterback as fumbled tonight, but that was the longest 608 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 6: Eagles drive to end in a turnover in the last 609 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 6: twenty five seasons, and the fact that the Packers forced 610 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 6: the turnovers notable because they entered the game with the 611 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 6: second fewest takeaways in the league this season. By the way, 612 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 6: the Eagles had scored in every first quarter this year 613 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 6: until tonight. Now the Bears are the only team in 614 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 6: the NFL to have scored in every first. 615 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: Quarter, something they didn't do at all last year. 616 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 6: In many quarters. Yes, the Packers had twenty four yards 617 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 6: of offense in the first quarter. By halftime, it was 618 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 6: seven total punts and seven penalties, the Packers going scoreless 619 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 6: through three quarters for the first time in two years. 620 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 6: It's now an Eagles ten to nothing lead at Green 621 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 6: Bay again, about ten and a half minutes to go 622 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 6: in this game, Jordan Love ten of eighteen passing for 623 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 6: eighty seven yards Jalen Hurts up to one hundred and 624 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 6: seven sixty seven yards passing and a touchdown, so the 625 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 6: Love Hurts game appropriately named Tonight. The Giants fired coach 626 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 6: Brian Dable, but general manager Joe Shane stays. The interim 627 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 6: is now offensive coordinator Mike Kafka. The Giants record over 628 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 6: the past two and a half years eleven and thirty three, 629 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 6: including two and eight this season. Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow 630 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 6: hopes to return on Thanksgiving for a game at Baltimore. 631 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 6: He's on ir with a toe injury. He returned to 632 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 6: limited practice today. Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson could miss 633 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 6: at least three to four weeks with a sprain knee. 634 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 6: Washington head coach Dan Quinn is taking over defensive coordinator duties. 635 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 6: Also Commander's defensive lineman Deron Payne was suspended one game 636 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 6: for throwing a punch yesterday to the scoreboard in the 637 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 6: NBA overtime at Miami. The heat of just beaten Cleveland 638 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 6: one forty to one thirty eight. There was a lot 639 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 6: of NBA excitement tonight, oddly more than the NFL had 640 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 6: to offer us Detroit in overtime beat Washington one thirty seven, 641 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 6: one thirty five. Kate Cunningham had forty six points. He 642 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 6: was four teena forty five shooting from the floor to 643 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 6: get those forty six points. Washington Wizard's now one and ten. 644 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 6: Lakers got thirty eight points from Luka Donsich in a 645 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 6: win at Charlotte won twenty one one eleven, Lakers eight 646 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 6: and three. Orlando beat Portland on a three pointer at 647 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 6: the buzzer by Desmond Baine. He had been oh five 648 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 6: from long distance, but one fifteen to one to twelve 649 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 6: Magic the final San Antonio's eight and two after winning 650 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 6: at Chicago one twenty one one seventeen. Victor Wimbanyama thirty 651 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 6: eight points. He had twelve rebounds and five locks as well, 652 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 6: and nine minutes to go at Dallas. The Mavericks are 653 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 6: leading the Milwaukee Bucks ninety four to eighty seven. The 654 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 6: new number one team in men's college basketball is Houston. 655 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 6: NHL Islanders won in overtime at New Jersey, three to two. 656 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 6: The American League Rookie of the Year is Nick Kurtz 657 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 6: of the A's. He got all thirty first place votes. 658 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 6: A shortstop. Jacob Wilson finished second and the National League 659 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year Braves catcher Drake Baldwin. He won 660 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 6: twenty one votes to nine, and finishing second was Cubs 661 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 6: pitcher Kate Horton, who went eleven and four. 662 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. Jason Smith, Mike 663 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Coming up next, 664 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: we got your play in the Day coming your way. 665 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: Plus you want a great MVP hot take, we got 666 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: one for you in the NFL. That's next right here, 667 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. 668 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 669 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 670 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: pm Pacific, Fox. 671 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend 672 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. 673 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: My wife. 674 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: My wife just texted me, Yeah, is there some sort 675 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: of stat for the most boring football game in history? Well, 676 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean we rank them, uh one through two seventy two. 677 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, by the end of the year, you had one, 678 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: we had what we said last year, This one's two 679 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: seventy you had win it like two seventy now's right now? 680 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: This one's a like two seventy one. Well, but I 681 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: mean it might be ratcheting up here in the final minutes. 682 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean as long as, like we said, as long 683 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: as it's close late. Yep, yup, Jason, I don't know 684 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: if there is list. If there is one, it's a 685 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: lot of Jets games here. Oh no, it's true. Yeah, yeah, 686 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: you see that list, Like eight of the ten games 687 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: involved Jets teams. But we do want it to be 688 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: close late. It looks like that might be the case. 689 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: Jacobs is in the end zone for the Packers their 690 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: first score of the night, extra point pending, so now 691 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: it will likely be ten to seven late in the 692 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, five and a half to go. Oo we 693 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: got points well, I mean he's well over a hundred 694 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: total yards on the night. Now the touchdown, so for 695 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: fantasy purposes, you got that floor that you hit and 696 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: crash through that. Now, let's see what we've got for 697 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: this final five to forty nine. All right, So we 698 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: got more exciting stuff coming up in a minute. But first, 699 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: the play of the day. The Play of the day, 700 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: of course, is brought to you by ti raqantyraq dot 701 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: com for over forty years, I think that's the last 702 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: time the Packers scored a touchdown for for forty years, 703 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: Tirack's been up and customers find the right tires for how, 704 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: what and where they drive. 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Doncic fires it from 715 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: the Lakers free throw line. I mean it doesn't count. 716 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: But a night where he had thirty eight, he just 717 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: chucks it up from the Lakers free throw line and 718 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: he swishes it for a three that didn't count. It 719 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. That's the play of the day. 720 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 1: Do I get to call for like a controversial thing 721 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: the next time he misses an actual shot? 722 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 3: Then what the hell? 723 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 4: Man? 724 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: No, man, you get hit that one without thinking about it. 725 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: You respect the MVP? Yeah? 726 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: No respect that hey and listen, I'm looking. I'm excited 727 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: to see when Lebron James plays with the South Bay 728 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: Lakers as it's come back all. 729 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: How great would that be. 730 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: It's got like the minor league rehab States where the 731 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: guy's gotta buy lobster and state for all the guys 732 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: that get nothing. And Bro, you're the minor league, as 733 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: what are you doing. You're on the bus, let's go. 734 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: And Bronny's like, Dad, I'm with the Lakers. You're playing 735 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: South Bay to my dad, Dad, just good luck Dad. 736 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna cater Blaze pizza. Good luck Dad, that pizza 737 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: ain't showing up, just like he didn't. Again, it's gonna 738 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: be so awkward when Lebron does return to the Lakers. 739 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: But how about this, you want to hot take NFL MVP? Okay, 740 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: got one for you. Drake may is near the top. 741 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 3: Oh, he's at the top right now. 742 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: No matter where you look, he's anywhere from first to 743 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: second as the favorites. Yeah, Matthew Stafford also getting a 744 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: lot of run. When you throw four touchdowns a week 745 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: for like nine weeks in a row, you're gonna get 746 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: run as MVP. But I'm going to give you somebody else, 747 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: because I want to push the conversation forward because early 748 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,479 Speaker 1: on in the season, we told you everything was gonna 749 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: be fine with this guy. It's the era of good 750 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: feeling and just got to sit back and let things bake. 751 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, right, but oh, Jonathan Taylor's terrific. Fantasy owners 752 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: really upset because they're a bye this week? Like, oh no, However, 753 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: Stafford is great, Drake may has played fantastic. But how 754 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: about Caleb Williams MVP? Think about it right, come on, 755 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: come on now. His numbers are fine, you're taking me 756 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: down a deep dark path. Numbers are fine, But the 757 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: MVP isn't always about the numbers. Sometimes it is, but 758 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: the fact that the Bears are succeeding is a storyline 759 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: that cuts through. We've watched Caleb Williams now win four 760 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: last minute games by dicing up the defense in a 761 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 1: myriad of ways. Sometimes it's I'm finding the right receiver 762 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: on my first read. Sometimes it's finding the right guy 763 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: and a check down. Sometimes it's scrambling for a first down. 764 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: Four not four comeback wins where oh we were down 765 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: seven to six, early four last minute wins where he 766 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: has rescued the Bears because of the end of games. 767 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: He's playing incredibly clutch. That's a big number. You're talking about. 768 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: Half their wins was at the end. 769 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 3: Ken. 770 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: Now they're calling a unicorn now, and I mean, really, 771 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams has been that good. He has been someone 772 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: that he's smart with the football, he's finding the right weapons. 773 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: We told you he's gonna be a star, and now 774 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: people are coming around to that. Oh I always said, Caleb, 775 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that's great. 776 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 777 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,959 Speaker 1: Listen, remember this is why we call the show ahead 778 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 1: of the curve, because you are ahead of the curve. 779 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: Now he's even better than he was. Chicago is not 780 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: nearly six and three without him. If you love Drake 781 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: May for MVP, right, and I'm okay with that. If 782 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: you want to love Drake May for MVP, you gotta 783 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: love Caleb Williams more because he's pulling out games at 784 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: the end. He's winning games by himself. I can't tell 785 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: you a lot of games Drake May is won by himself. 786 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: He has played terrific. But I can point again four 787 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: to six wins where Caleb Williams just turns to a 788 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: different guy at the end, and in a year where 789 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: not everybody is running crazy with stats. You don't have 790 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback with thirty touchdowns at this point. Mahomes is 791 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: not having that year. Caleb Williams, MVP. Think about that 792 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: and what he's accomplished. It's a hot take, it's really 793 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: not that hot. 794 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: I'll tell you how he can win it. 795 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: Like this is where we really kick this down the 796 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: road is the fact that the Bears going forward have 797 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: the toughest strength of schedule remaining in the National Football League. 798 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: When you look at their quote easy opponents, You've got 799 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: the Vikings are listed as an easy opponent, with his 800 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: classmate JJ McCarthy leading the way, and then the Cleveland Browns. Otherwise, 801 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still on the plus side right having fallen off altogether. 802 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: San Francisco reeling, but still they had a little fighting 803 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: him before they acquiesced. On Sunday, you got the Lions 804 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: two against the Packers and a game against Philadelphia currently 805 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: ten to seven as we are talking here at the 806 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: end of the hour one. But you look at what 807 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: Williams has done starting to push the ball downfield. Last 808 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: year was really good with the touchdown to interception ratio, 809 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: but it was all a shot chart between five yards 810 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: ahead of the line of image in five yards behind it. 811 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: Not a lot of pushing the ball downfield, a lot 812 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: of sacks that he absorbed this year learning to play. 813 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 3: Coming into the. 814 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: Week, was tied for second with the most snaps in 815 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: play action something Ben Johnson wanted to do. What's he doing. 816 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: He's seeing the field better, making better decisions, not taking 817 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: sacks and advancing the ball. Now, have they had some 818 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: great circumstances where it rolled up? Sure, Brian Dable was goward, 819 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: he got fired. You had the Cincinnati Bengals three guys 820 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: pinball off Loveland as he runs towards the end zone. 821 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: All of those things. You know what, the box scores 822 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: all read the same. And where he can take over 823 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: for Drake may here in terms of that favorite right 824 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: he's at plus three hundred, is the fact that they've 825 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: got the easiest strength of schedule remaining, so they're gonna 826 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: pack it stack up wins. But if Caleb is able 827 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: to do more of the same that he's done these 828 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: last couple weeks, it's going to be a bigger and 829 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: more impressive show. And in Chicago, Caleb Williams, NFL MVP 830 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: just think about that for a second. 831 00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 3: That's just crazy. 832 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,479 Speaker 1: How about coming up next well off More and Monday 833 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: Night Football? And how about the right guy to replace 834 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: Brian Dable in New York? Sell Sell, Sell, I watched 835 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: the jot I don't know if we're gonna get two 836 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,479 Speaker 1: touchdowns the rest of the year, Garret. I can't count 837 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: in a kick and punt return for touchdown every game. 838 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: We're not playing the Browns again. I mean, come on, man, 839 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: looking at the quarterbacks that you're going up against, like, 840 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: we can get a touchdown defensively against that guy right 841 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: by the way, who is the genius that thought? 842 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 2: You know? 843 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: We gotta do we gotta put Jets Patriots on but 844 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: like week eleven, Like, what are you talking about? Man? 845 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: Why would you play? This is like a week two 846 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: TNF game. Let's get them before the Jets suck because 847 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: we know that's gonna and the Patriots how good are 848 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: they gonna be? Now you didn't know about the Patriots, okay, 849 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: but really, boy, we gotta get the Jets while they're 850 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: still so why why would you go Jets and Patriots 851 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: week eleven? 852 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 3: Come on, man? Really? 853 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: I think they wanted to highlight Aaron Glen against Mike 854 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: Rabel al Michaels right now is look at this, guys, 855 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: We're going, oh no, no, no, not after last week. 856 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 3: You can't do this to me. 857 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: Yes, the points spread, No, not doing this, not doing this, 858 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: guess it? Twenty one, twenty one and a half. It 859 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: might as well be tef. It's early in the week. 860 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: It's early in the week. It's early. So again, closing 861 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: on the two minute warning, Packers with the football deep 862 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: in their own territory and need a field goal to 863 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: tie this game. Really, boy, from last Thursday to tonight 864 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: and we got Jets, but we are in a bad 865 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: week run of Thursday night foot Yeah, but you know 866 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: Thursday will be great because you'll you'll still get either 867 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 1: hyped or unconsolable depending on how that game goes. Because 868 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't love the Patriots. You hate the Patriots, right. 869 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: The fact that they won this past weekend gives them 870 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: a little bit of juice, right because that was a 871 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: plus team that was a division leading team. They're minus 872 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: I think nine thousand to win that division. That's how 873 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: bad the NFC South is. Even after the loss, the 874 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: Buccaneers are that that great Carolina coming in at plus 875 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: eight fifty. Their quarterback had one hundred and twenty four 876 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: passing yards, eclips two hunerd passing yards once all year. 877 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and they're they're the second favorite, uh in 878 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: the division. But yeah, the Patriots get in there and 879 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: sell Drake may sell sell Sell. I mean maybe networks 880 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: can slump too, right, Like, Hey, we're we're in a 881 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: bad We're in a bad pride. We gotta we gotta 882 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: pull ourselves out of this. 883 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: Man. 884 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 3: We're in a we're in a bad way. 885 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: Man. 886 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 3: We gotta, we gotta, we gotta have meetings. 887 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: We gotta have players only meetings, we have executive only meetings. 888 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 1: We gotta figure it out. Did they suddenly start playing 889 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: an old Jets Patriots game. 890 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 3: Here's Tom Brady. We're gonna show you, Tom Brady, look 891 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 3: at this. 892 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: Uh so again, this is where we're at right now. 893 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: But again ten seven two minute warning in the fourth quarter. 894 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: More in this game coming up in a few minutes. 895 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: But Brian Dable got fired as Giants head coach today. 896 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: Can't say I blame the Giants, right, Dable. It's just 897 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: time after time after time of Dable and the Giants 898 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: falling short. The blown lead in Denver four blown fourth 899 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: quarter leads this year. The tipping point was not going 900 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: for it on fourth and one yesterday against the Bears, 901 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: and that coming back to haunt them in a loss. 902 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: The Giants had decided that's enough and we're moving on 903 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: right now. Mike Kafka for a Northwestern Star. Yeah, will 904 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: five hundred plus yards in a bowl game against Auburn. 905 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: It was a loss, but TJ clearly the Giants hoping 906 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: under Kafka the offense will undergo a metamorphosis as they 907 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 1: continue on. TJ, well done for the well read out there. 908 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: You got that. If not, just let it go. You 909 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 1: know he did lose the Syracuse that year. Yeah, yeah, 910 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: thirty seven, thirty four. He's disqualified that. That is a 911 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: tough thing to look back at the calendar, Syracuse. You're out. Yeah, well, 912 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: and you also don't want to yell at the head 913 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: coach on the way out because he may wind up 914 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: yelling at you and getting fined for out of pocket gestures. Yeah, 915 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: we can't even say what the coach said to a 916 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: fan as he was leaving, said he wanted to fight Mike. No, 917 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean I like hot take nons. That works, But no, no, no, 918 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: this is FCC non compliancy. So hopefully the networks figure 919 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: out their NFL football a slump again, and because boy, 920 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: this is not a great week. 921 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 3: No it's okay. 922 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: But with Dable being fired, right, Mike Kaffa takes over, 923 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: and it's not like he's suddenly gonna start winning a 924 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: bunch of games. The Giants as good as Jackson dart is, 925 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: they're just not good enough. Right, But let me throw 926 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: this to who are they gonna get? 927 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 2: Right? 928 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: This is gonna be probably the best opening of the 929 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: off season because you're in a position to succeed, right. 930 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: It's a you are a coming into a situation where 931 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: a young quarterback who is terrific. You have a young 932 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: running back who's a leader who will come back from 933 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: injury camp scattaboo. You have Molik Neighbors, one of the 934 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: best young wide receivers. You have some big time talent. 935 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 1: You have a really good defensive lineup due Carter. It's 936 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: New York like all of a sudden, the Giants, this 937 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: is a great opening, and it's I don't know that 938 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a better opening because you want to 939 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: come in with a quarterback to be able to succeed. 940 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: You see the success Johnson's having coming in as from 941 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: former OC with the Lions. How things are going now 942 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams? Right, we talked about a few minutes ago, 943 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Really you want to talk about Matthew Stafford 944 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: and Drake May. Caleb Williams might be more than those 945 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: guys for MVP I fifty one. Think about what he's 946 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: done right, and it's worked out, This relationship has worked. 947 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,959 Speaker 1: You have now doomed my second half of my bear. 948 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,959 Speaker 1: See Caleb Williams can't find receiver at all, he still 949 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: has it completed a pass justin fields with better stats 950 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: than Caleb Williams. Remember after week one and two when 951 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: everybody said it wouldn't work. 952 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, here we are. 953 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: But let me throw this out here because you want 954 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: to know a name, and we'll be the first one 955 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: because then people can steal this for tomorrow. Is that 956 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: the name of the guy that I thought of right 957 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: away that I said, Okay, what do we got here? 958 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: You have a young quarterback a year out of college 959 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: who continues to be the guy you need to mold you. 960 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: You don't need to worry about drafting anything else. That's 961 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: getting him help. The quarterback is the number one thing, right, 962 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: That's all you need to worry about. Quarterback quoter. You 963 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback in an offensive minded head coach 964 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: that cuts out half the candidates. Do you want the 965 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: next up and coming young offensive coordinator. Yeah, and theory, 966 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,479 Speaker 1: but he's got to be out there, and I don't 967 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: know that there's that guy out there right I don't 968 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: know that there's another Ben Johnson out there right now. 969 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: This would also work because it would get his current 970 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: situation to a place of being resolved. But what about this, 971 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: a guy with an incredible quarterback track record, multiple Heisman 972 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: Trophy winners, Lincoln Riley, head coach New York Giants. Think 973 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: about think about for a second what he did at 974 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: Oklahoma getting to USC coaching Caleb Williams to a Heisman trophy. 975 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is pretty terrific so far. Guys he has 976 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 1: coached have been really good. He was on the NFL 977 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: radar a couple of years ago. Instead of staying in college, 978 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: instead of staying where he was, I want to go 979 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: to USC, right, got the one hundred million dollar contract, 980 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: all the big cash. It is not work great at USC, 981 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: but one thing we have seen offensively, they've gone from 982 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy Caleb Williams, now you have Ja Maiva who 983 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: could wind up being a Heisman Trophy finalist. The offense 984 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: has been pretty good. Has it worked for him in 985 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: LA It is not And maybe it's unrealistic expectations, but 986 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: when you get one hundred million dollars and a plane, 987 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: people expect certain things, expect you to get to the playoff. 988 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: It's not been a disaster, but it's not worked either. 989 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: So USC, I am sure would be okay with saying, yeah, 990 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: let's move on. Maybe we not have to pay out 991 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: as much if this is something that happens. He goes 992 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 1: calling to the NFL. Let's see how this really winds 993 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: up going. And if you're the Giants, we want to 994 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: make sure we have an NFL ready head coach who 995 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 1: can come in can relate to our young quarterback who's 996 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 1: pretty headstrong and is Baker Mayfield with a more talented 997 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: and more mobile Baker Mayfield. Of all the ways you 998 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: can go. Remember he was on the radar a couple 999 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: of years ago to the left Oklahoma for USC. Lincoln 1000 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: Riley get you out of things if you're USC and 1001 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: maybe there's some kind of money situation, they can figure 1002 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: out where hey, we're not paying out the rest of 1003 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: your payout, but us he can print money, So it's okay, 1004 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: we can figure this out if the Giants come calling. 1005 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you what, that's one of my first 1006 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: phone calls from the Giants too. Who do we want 1007 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: to come in? That I know as a track record 1008 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, that could be someone that jump into New 1009 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: York has handled the big firestorm Lincoln Riley. Well, certainly 1010 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: USC's had their share of lawsuits that they've had to 1011 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 1: navigate through the years as well. In addition to whatever 1012 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: is left on that rumored one hundred million dollars, like 1013 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: when John Gruden had the one hundred million dollar deal, 1014 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: Like I really wanted to see the actual PaperWorks, like 1015 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: is it really? 1016 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 3: Is it really? 1017 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: Are there a bunch of contingencies? I don't know, but 1018 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see. And I like the cut of 1019 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: your Jim right, it's bold. Mayava has been great in spots. 1020 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 1: The backup quarterback clearly can throw a pass high, Jersey gate, 1021 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 1: all of those things that come through. Yeah, that play 1022 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: that they used against Northwestern subtenly getting apologies from the 1023 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: conference office and the officiating for the chicanery there. But 1024 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, he has navigated through a lot of fires. 1025 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: He's not been fired on the tarmac just yet. Mayava 1026 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: has been solid seventeen and six touchdown to interception ratio, 1027 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: well over two thousand passing yards. And you look, they've 1028 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: had some clean games of late and they're still in 1029 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: the mix right at two losses. They're still potentially there 1030 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: to make some noise, still a couple of spots on 1031 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: the schedule to navigate. But it is curious, right because 1032 00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen's name has been linked to every job and 1033 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: immediately he's only going to get one of them, and 1034 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: literally got linked here immediately, so he falls off the 1035 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: list on one of these would be futures and to 1036 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: the high as bidder they go. But the thing is 1037 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: he was a disaster the first time around. I mean 1038 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: it was the Raiders, so real Uni position succeed, but 1039 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: it was disaster. The obviously knows Jackson Dart very well. 1040 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 1: You know you have that s what I'm curious, and 1041 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: I'll just leave it here, is that you've got Mike 1042 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,760 Speaker 1: Kafka in place, a guy who has been in Buffalo, 1043 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: a guy who's been in Kansas City and has been 1044 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: waiting for a chance. Right, He's been a finalist several times. 1045 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: And as much as everybody wants say, hey, Brian Dabele, well, 1046 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: what did kaff could do with Jackson Dart to make 1047 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: him the quarterback that he is right now, it's it's 1048 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: like presumed it was all dable, So all of a 1049 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: sudden he's just gonna get hired. 1050 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 3: Where like, no, no, no. 1051 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: I think Kafka has got something to say about this, 1052 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: Like Dabel's gonna come out and say it was Ka 1053 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: wanted to kick the field goal. You know what I 1054 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: mean for me from a half yard out? 1055 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 3: He said, kick a coach, it's his offense that like 1056 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 3: he did run. Look, I wanted to save him because 1057 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 3: I ran into the blue tent. Did you see Kafka 1058 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 3: going in there? 1059 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 2: No? 1060 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 3: You saw me. 1061 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 2: No. 1062 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: It's one of those where he's got a second half 1063 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: to audition. Now is he dealing with in an inferior 1064 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: roster at this point? Right in and out of the lineup, 1065 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: Thomas has been hurt. But an offensive line that you've 1066 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: pieced together the running back position between Tracy and singletary. Certainly, 1067 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 1: is it the same as Scatibo and you're leading receivers wandale. Okay, fine, 1068 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: but you go and you make what you can of it, 1069 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: so long as Jackson Dart is able to do so, 1070 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: because that's been the hard part is sometimes guy's got 1071 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: to find out you know where those limits are, and 1072 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: you're not a linebacker and you're not Camp Scatabo, he's out. 1073 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 3: You don't get to run through people. 1074 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 1: Because we watched him do one of those Nelson months 1075 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: Simpson's football things several weeks ago where he could have 1076 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: avoided the would be tackler. No, he ran straight at 1077 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: his ass, like what are you doing? You're a quarterback. 1078 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: Lived to see another day. But Kafka is a is 1079 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: a guy that I think has a seven game audition here, 1080 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: uh to see what he does. But yeah, Lincoln Riley 1081 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: certainly there, Mike McCarthy's name has come up. 1082 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 3: Some of the old. 1083 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: NFL standby re treads are certainly maybe Joe Brady out 1084 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,280 Speaker 1: of Buffalo gets a shot at a head gig. 1085 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 3: We'll see. 1086 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 1087 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: Just think Lincoln Riley, his youthful new face NFL Jackson Dart, 1088 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: because that's the type of situation you have where two 1089 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: leaders in dart and scatter. We want to say, Blanke 1090 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,479 Speaker 1: you let's fight like that's what these guys are about. 1091 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 3: We'll fight right now, let's do it. 1092 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: Is this where Sean McBride goes, hey, it'll solve our 1093 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: salary cap problems although it's usc and the buyout question, yeah, 1094 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: well that's why you can hit'll solve her. You want 1095 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: to come to you know, we can make it work. 1096 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: We can figure out a buy out, some sort of 1097 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: thing that gets you going to be the head coach. 1098 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 1: You want to leave, Maybe you take less money the 1099 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 1: giants want you. 1100 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeh. 1101 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: Money can be Money can always be figured out