1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Well, folks, we have been on a bit of a 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: presidential kick of late say a tare dare we say 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: a taar? We do we dare? And this classic episode 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: is about a question that popped up in Man. It 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: must have been early twenty eighteen, maybe late twenty seventeen. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Are all US presidents actually related? 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: It comes from a student in Selena's, California, back in 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: twenty twelve. I guess this is before we instituted our 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: historical cutoff. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: But I guess it has to. 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: Do with history before nineteen ninety fourth, so we'll give 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 3: our past selves a past pass. But yeah, student in Selenas, 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 3: California shook the genealogy and presidential history world to its 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 3: core when she claimed that all US presidents except for one, 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: share an ancestor. 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: It's all relative. Let's get into it. Ridiculous History is 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: a production of iHeartRadio Breaking News, Friends and Neighbors. As 19 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: we begin today's episode, recording on April thirtieth, twenty eighteen, 20 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: there are seven point five eight three one five eight 21 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty three people alive on the planet. 22 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: That's a little over seven point five billion. 23 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm ben, can you break that down to one 24 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: of those fancy math numbers, or it's like something to 25 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: the something. 26 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: I could, Yeah, I could. 27 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: Are you good? Are you Mathew like that? Ben? 28 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: You know I've been known to dabble. I don't have 29 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: a personal passion for it. 30 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, what about you? No, we're your SAT scores 31 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: pretty balance between English and Math. 32 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Higher in English. 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: Mine were way higher in English, way out of whack 34 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: with the maths. So I may have to lean on 35 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: you for math support in this episode. Hi, my name 36 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: is Nol. 37 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: So out of seven point five billion people, you have 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: chosen to tune into a podcast featuring three of those people, 39 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: just a measly three out of billions. We are so 40 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: glad you're here. But wait, Ben, but wait Nol. You 41 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: might be saying, who is this mysterious third person you're 42 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: talking about. Why? It's our super producer Casey Smooth Jazz pegrom. 43 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: Oh man, I like that that new smooth Jazz Casey 44 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: sound effect. 45 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: We did not run this by Casey. 46 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: Before making a face. Is he making a face? 47 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Is it a pleasurable face? 48 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm into it? Cool? 49 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Oh all right, and that's been Casey on the case. 50 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: So now that we've established that we're going to be 51 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: talking about large numbers of humans. Why don't we take 52 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: a step back and let's kind of like couch that 53 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: with with a historical topic. 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, let's let's dare I say, I may give 55 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: the people what they want, a story about ridiculous history. 56 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: So we'll come back to that number that is ticking 57 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: as as we record from something called the worldcounts dot com, 58 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: where you can find things like world population clocks. 59 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: Is that the same as the doomsday clock? 60 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: It's thankfully not. No, it's different. But for some people 61 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: who consider our society at large on the verge of collapse, 62 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: then yes, it's a different doomsday clock. But we will 63 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: return to that in a very important way. Today. We'd 64 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: like to set the scene for everyone in the US 65 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: and abroad by saying that there's something quirky about the 66 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: United States. Despite the fact that it is a representative democracy. 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: Several of our presidents are commanders in chief, and several 68 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: other people in high positions of power like the Supreme Court, 69 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: for instance, or senators and so on. They tend to 70 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: be related, not all the time. 71 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: And of course most of you are surely aware of 72 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: the big name political dynasties like the Bushes or the Kennedys. 73 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: But how about the Roosevelts. M yeah, yeah, the Roosevelts. 74 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: For many people, Fdr Franklin Delano Roosevelt remains an incredibly 75 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: popular or controversial figure. Not everybody likes him even in 76 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: the modern day. Wasn't a populist, Yes, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 77 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: who was the mastermind, any ways behind what is known 78 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 1: as the New Deal, which had a lot of shall 79 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: we say, left leaning programs at the time. 80 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 3: Sure, and it also provided a lot of people jobs 81 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: when they were in desperate need of said jobs in 82 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: order to help build up our infrastructure, everything from roads 83 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: and bridges to things like what else. 84 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: The DVA Tennessee Valley Authority, that's a huge one. There 85 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: were foul ways collection programs, there were any number of things, 86 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: a lot of infrastructure that was direly needed. He served 87 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: as the thirty second President of the United States from 88 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty three until his death in nineteen forty five. However, 89 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: you may be saying, what about that other Roosevelt Teddybear, Yes, 90 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: Theodora Roosevelt. 91 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: Wendy Ruxbyin Roosevelt. 92 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, this is the twenty sixth president of 93 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: the United States, And oddly enough, yes, the Teddy Bear 94 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: is named in his honor. Wasn't he the one who 95 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: carried a big stick and spoke softly? Yeah, yes, that 96 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: is the quote you'll hear about him. 97 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 98 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: He was president for eight years from nineteen oh one 99 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: to nineteen oh nine. So, like many people, you would 100 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: assume that he and Franklin were related pretty closely, right. 101 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: You know, And it's funny, Yes, I would assume that. Ben. 102 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: In fact, I did assume that, because it's the kind 103 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: of thing you just take it face value. You got 104 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: your Kennedy's, you got your bushes. Why can't you have 105 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: your Roosevelts. Sure, and you can, but not in the 106 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: way you might think. 107 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: No, No, it turns out so one of the assumptions 108 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: would have been that perhaps Theodore we'll call him Roosevelt 109 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: the elder, was the father of Franklin Roosevelt or maybe 110 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: an uncle or something like that. 111 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: Right, because they I was about to say, ruled, They 112 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: governed like thirty years apart. 113 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, decades. And it's not the case. Although the math 114 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: might seem to roughly check out, it is not the 115 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: case that they are father son or uncle, nephew at all. 116 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: They are related, but in a much more. 117 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: Distant way, in a much more distant way. That sort 118 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: of shimmies us on to the next chapter that we're 119 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: going to get into. But it's interesting they related in 120 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: two different ways. In fact, they are they shared a 121 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: great great great great grandfather. So it's four great four greats, 122 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: making them fifth cousins. 123 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Right, right, right, I get that right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 124 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: And so the question there is just to spend some 125 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: time on this first relationship. The question there when we 126 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: get to the fifth cousinry of this is a question 127 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: for you, folks, are you in regular contact? Be honest, now, 128 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: are you in regular contact with your fifth cousins? Even one? 129 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: Can you name one of your fifth cousins? May speak 130 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: for the group, speak for yourself, please, I. 131 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: Will speak for myself, but I choose to speak with 132 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: the voice of the people in saying no. 133 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, well, I myself am not super close with 134 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: my fifth cousin. 135 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: You know him, you know what? 136 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: I know? Love them really at Tennessee is a weird place, interesting, yeah, 137 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: but but I think if we're hanging out, it would 138 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: just be at the big events, you know, collapse of civilization, 139 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: some somebody's birthday or death like that. 140 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: I would have thought those would have been reversed. I 141 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: thought collapse would have come more of a last resort. 142 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: But that's the one where like, yeah, I'm telling you man. 143 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of strange bedfellows now that okay, sure, I'll 144 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: go with that. 145 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: Yes. 146 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: The other way they were related is that FDR's wife Eleanor. 147 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: And it's funny. 148 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: I actually always used to think that Franklin's middle name 149 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: was Eleanor, and it was weird to me that his 150 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: wife's name was Eleanor. That was Eleanor, but now it's 151 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: Delano and Eleanor. Yes, she in fact was Teddy's niece, 152 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: direct niece, right, Yes, that is correct. It's just confusing 153 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: because her last name is Roosevelt without Franklin right right. Yes, 154 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: his last name was Roosevelt, and they married. She didn't 155 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: have to change your last name, right, so they get that, right. Yeah, 156 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: that's weird. 157 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: That's why. That's why this is all very flo mixing. 158 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: And this also means that FDR and Eleanor, Franklin Delano 159 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Roosevelt and Eleanor Roosevelt were fifth cousins themselves once. 160 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: Removed both fifth cousins five by. 161 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Five in it. 162 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: Wow, that's literally the same relationship. Right. 163 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: It sounds strange, and this may have some of us wondering, 164 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: are we going to jump the shark here? Is this 165 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: going to be an episode about unknown incests in the 166 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: US presidency bordering on that of the Egyptian royalty? 167 00:09:59,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: Jump the history show? 168 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: We we just might, but the fact remains that this was 169 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: not a strange, untoward, or in any way ethically questionable relationship. 170 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: Now, man, it's fifth, it's fifth, it's fine. Fifth is fine. 171 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: It's fine if it's fifth. Yes, okay, so that's it. 172 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: That's the show, folks. They're just not as related as 173 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: we thought. 174 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we kind of thought that ourselves, where we were like, 175 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: this is a show? 176 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: Is this the whole show? 177 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: But you know what, sometimes finding a little quirky fact 178 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: like this can open up a whole field of rabbit 179 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: holes full of quirky facts, right right, a penibly if 180 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: you will. 181 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: We asked ourselves what other strange and genealogical secrets does 182 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: the US presidency hold as in office? Right? And that's 183 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: when we ran into a crazy question. Are all us 184 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: presidents related. Oh, I think we both just assumed no. 185 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: Yet seems like a long walk to get to that 186 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: question from our FDR and Teddy Roosevelt related to are 187 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: all presidents related? But as it turns out, this is 188 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: we're not the only ones asking this question, Ben, You're 189 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: not the only ones asking this question, right right? 190 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: You know who else was asking this question? 191 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: Yes? 192 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: Twelve year olds? 193 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, twelve year olds, specifically a budding genealogist by 194 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: the name of bridge Anne d'a avignon. 195 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: Amazing name. 196 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: That's that's an amazing name. So she was twelve years 197 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: old back in twenty twelve, and then she came out 198 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: with a family tree that had some earth shaking implications. 199 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: Right yeah, man, it seems like she scooped like the 200 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: genealogy community at large with this one. Twelve year old 201 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: Bridge Anne Davignon, who is a resident of Salinas, California, 202 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: for a school project, Get this, created a family tree 203 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: that connected forty two of the forty three at the 204 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: time US presidents to a single common ancestor, a real 205 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: jerkwad by the name of King John of England or 206 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: John Lackland as his pappy called him. 207 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Yes, famously named that for signing the Magnet Carta in 208 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: twelve fifteen, which limited his power as a monarch and 209 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: led to the formation of what we recognize as the 210 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: modern British government. Yeah. 211 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: In fact, John had such a horrible reputation for cruelty 212 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: and incompetence that he was kind of strong armed into 213 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: signing that fateful document by these rebelling barons who had 214 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 3: had enough of his shenanigans, and essentially it limited his power, 215 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: It lost him a whole lot of land and basically 216 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: kind of neutered the monarchy for all intents and purposes. 217 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: From that point on. 218 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: What we're saying is that Lachland was not a compliment. 219 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't ironic either. 220 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: No, And he was famously trade as the villain in 221 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: the robin. 222 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: Hood stories because of his you know, just notorious greed 223 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: and cowardice. 224 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: Robinhood Prince of Thieves, by the way, that's what we're 225 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: referring to. 226 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: I assume in the nineties, I was thinking more of 227 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: the Disney one where he's like a skinny lion. 228 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 229 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 2: It sucking his thumb. 230 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: He's sort of a proto scar. Yeah, we should do 231 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: an entire show on Robin Hood in the future because 232 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: the facts don't really resemble the fiction, which may surprise 233 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: some people, maybe startle some people, but it's worth that 234 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 1: we will say that he was a human being and 235 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: not a anthropomorphic fox. 236 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: No no, or a lion thumb sucking lion. 237 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: But no. 238 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. 239 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: This young lady in California came up with this project 240 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 3: from I think she was originally trying to trace her 241 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: own ancestry and then somewhere along the way kind of 242 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: decided that she wanted to go way, way, way deeper 243 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: in the form of scouring over five hundred thousand names 244 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: to find what she termed the presidential adam. And her 245 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: grandfather was actually sort of an amateur genealogist himself, and 246 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: he helped her out. Here's the thing, though, what she 247 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: did that everyone before her, all of the people in 248 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: the professional genealogy community, had not done, was she looked 249 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: at both male and female family lines to make this connection. 250 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: And the only president that did. 251 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: Not tie back to King John was Martin Van Buren 252 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: and that's because he hailed from. 253 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Dutch roots, right. And this is again, this is according 254 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: to her findings with the help of her armchair genealogists grandfather. 255 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: One thing, we can say, heck of a science project, 256 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: probably the best one of the year there at Monte 257 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Vista Christian School in Watsonville. But she also found out 258 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: that she is the eighteenth cousin of President Barack Obama. 259 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: She wrote to President Obama to share her findings, and 260 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: as of twenty twelve, she said she received a form 261 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: letter from the White House, but you know, maybe she 262 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: got a handwritten when later, because it's twenty eighteen. 263 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: That's a kick in the pants. 264 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: Then I have followed up and I haven't found any 265 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: new information about this. She also apparently was trying to 266 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: raise money for the trip by selling signed copies of 267 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: her massive sort of vision board esque family tree with 268 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: Barack Obama's head center in the middle, US President Barack 269 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: Obama world Leader, surrounded by his cousins with thousands of names. 270 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: So this leads to a question that we all have 271 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: to ask. We have to be skeptical. We can't be 272 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: instantly taken in by a snappy headline. And you know, 273 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: we were talking about this off air when I had 274 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: brought up some of the stuff and the question was, 275 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: are we crushing the dreams of a child if we 276 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: say that it isn't true. Luckily, it turns out it 277 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: is kind of true, this idea of a web of relationships. 278 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: But like the relationship between Franklin Roosevelt and Theodore Roosevelt, 279 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: it's not true in the way you might think. 280 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: It's not particularly remarkable either. 281 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: No, no, it is not. 282 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: John was just not friends with anybody. He was constantly 284 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: feuding with the papacy quarrels over the election to the 285 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: See of Canterbury after the death of Hubert Walter. Pope 286 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: Innocent the third decided that John's nominee was no good 287 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: and instead elected Stephen Langton. And this infuriated John, and 288 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: they just really were not We're not very close. Here's 289 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: the thing too, King John, in addition to being cruel, 290 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: he was known for starving his enemies to death. In fact, 291 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: in an article from the BBC entitled the Lost Jewels 292 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: of Bad King John, historian Mark Morris, who wrote a 293 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: biography on the king, was asked if he was really 294 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: as bad in reality as he was made out to 295 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: be in songs and stories. And you know Robin Hood, 296 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: for example, to which he replied, no, much worse. 297 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: In legend, he doesn't starve people to death. In reality 298 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: he does. En Mass so a bad guy and also incompetent. 299 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: Apparently he was traveling his what do you call it, 300 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: like a litter like what when you're in those a palquin? 301 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 302 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: Sure, like you know, is it where somebody's carrying them. 303 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: More of a carriage kind of situation? 304 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, And they had all of these boxes of 305 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 3: various supplies and treasure and they sunk into a marsh 306 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: known as the Wash. It's a very treacherous muddy bank 307 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 3: under the cross Key Bridge in Lincolnshire, England, and it 308 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 3: was all lost. He apparently lost the Crown jewels because 309 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: of this foolish route when he was actually running away 310 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: from his enemies at the time. 311 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: So all around pretty bad guy. 312 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: Or, as Mark Morris would say, an absolute rotter. He 313 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: also Morris himself wrote an article for The Telegraph where 314 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: he says this is the most evil monarch in British 315 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: history and calls him a lecherous trader, a depraved tyrant 316 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: and a hopeless leader. He was also a serial rapist, yeah, 317 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: just putting that in there. His enemies were not necessarily 318 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: some sort of spoiled tyrants yearning for more power. They 319 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: were saying, we've got to we gotta get rid of 320 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: this guy because he is such a pill. 321 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, big time. 322 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: And I believe he had a brother who was known 323 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: as Richard the Lionheart. That actually comes into play in 324 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: the Robin Hood story where good King Richard comes back 325 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: to depose you know, King John. Anyway, the thing with 326 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: the lost treasure is interesting because it's actually become kind 327 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: of this like Dan Brown esque sort of mystery of 328 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: the secret Treasure of Prince John, where in that area 329 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: in England there are several folks who have been trying 330 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: to find. 331 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: It over the years with no success. 332 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: One guy, in fact, claims that he can see the 333 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: outline of it on a Google Earth image. So not 334 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 3: exactly the most flattering guy for all of these presidents 335 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: to be connected to. 336 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: The young lady did the project. 337 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 3: Her comment to a local news organization was they all 338 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: have the common trait of wanting power. 339 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: So there's that. 340 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: So, folks here, we have a question for you, since 341 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: we're all learning a lot about each other's families today, 342 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: how many ancestors do you have? Well, if we're saying 343 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: living your dead, just any ancestors, doesn't matter if you 344 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: talk to them or not. It doesn't matter how long 345 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: ago they lived. We would see some pretty easy math. 346 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: At first, you have two parents, they each have two parents, right, 347 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: so you have two parents, four grandparents, they each have 348 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: each of your grandparents have two parents. So then you 349 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: have eight great grandparents, four grandparents, two parents, and then you. 350 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: And so when we realize that this exponential growth as 351 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: you go back in time through the generations applies to 352 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: every single one of the seven point five billion plus 353 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: people living on the planet, you start to run into 354 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: something weird and the math. The math doesn't check out 355 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: after a certain amount of time. 356 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: That's right, because when you look back and trace your 357 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: theoretical ancestors in the way that you're talking about, you 358 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 3: start to actually outpace the population. In an article for 359 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: Abroad in the Yard called the US Presidents who descend 360 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: from King John of England and Why you probably do two, 361 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 3: Lee Renner writes that if you go back thirty generations 362 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: to the Middle Ages, you would theoretically have over one 363 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: billion ancestors in that line of your family tree. 364 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and furthermore, if you continue down the line. With 365 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: this sort of growth, then it will double every step, 366 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: and that means that just forty generations ago, we would 367 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: find that every person alive now has a trillion ancestors, 368 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: all living at the same time, which is impossible because 369 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: Earth has never had that many people living on it. 370 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 2: So how does this work out? 371 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: Ben help us out with the with the birthday math here, 372 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: that's that's what I like to call this kind of math. 373 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: So this leads us to the concept of pedigree collapse 374 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: or as it's known in German auhen shrewnd. What does 375 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: that translate to loss of lineage? Roughly coined by a 376 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: guy named Robert C. Gunderson. Here's the gist without pedigree collapse. 377 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: The family trees we just described for you, for Casey, 378 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: for myself, renewal, they all work the same way. They're binary. 379 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: We've got you the protagon and the family tree of 380 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: course your parents, grandparents, great grandparents and so on. Because 381 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: this grows eventually to exceed the total world population at 382 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: the time, if not ever, we know that the family 383 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: tree at some point has to be incorrect. This binary 384 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: tree model, and this apparent paradox is explained by a 385 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: couple of things. Mainly shared ancestors, because a binary tree 386 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: would assume that all of the people in all these 387 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: trees are unique in some way. Instead of a tree 388 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: consisting of all different individuals, a tree can have multiple 389 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: places occupied by a single individual. Parents of an ancestor 390 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: might be related to each other, not knowing that's a fact. 391 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: The offspring of two first cousins has at most, for example, 392 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: only six great grandparents instead of eight. And then this 393 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: means that the family tree you have, the binary tree 394 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: looks a lot like an upside down pyramid, but the 395 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: real shape of it is more like a diamond. Oh cool, 396 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: And everyone we know has some sort of common ancestor, it's. 397 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: True, and apparently wed only take about two thousand to 398 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: three thousand years going back to find a period where 399 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: that was the case. Or we all share this common ancestor. 400 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: And we have no idea who it is, of course not. 401 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 402 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: And the thing too is when you start getting into 403 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: royal lineages, that really muddies the water, doesn't it, Because 404 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 3: there is you know, intentional inbreeding that happens in order 405 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: to maintain the family bloodline or maintain you know, transfer 406 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: of ownership of property within you know, a particular house, 407 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: I guess, and also just the lack of mating options 408 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 3: within that echelon of society right right. 409 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: And we also have an added benefit here in the 410 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: case of many aristocratic royal bloodlines or genealogies, we have 411 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: much more robust documentation of what happened when and who 412 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: was born to whom you know, other than the commoners. 413 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: So another interesting aside here is not only do we 414 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: have a shared common ancestor two to three thousand years ago, 415 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: but at various points in early human history we experienced 416 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: an evolutionary bottleneck where there was a very small amount 417 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: of human beings in general alive. A lot of our 418 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: regional populations across the planet now are still descended from 419 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: just a few people relatively we can find a common link, 420 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: and in the case of the United Kingdom or what 421 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: we call the United Kingdom today, those common links are 422 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: surprisingly easy to find. 423 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: It's true. 424 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: Andrew Miller of the University of Durham in England figured 425 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 3: out that most anybody Anglo Saxon ancestry is likely to 426 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: descended from King Edward the Third, who ruled from thirteen 427 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 3: twelve to thirteen seventy seven. 428 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: And when I say most anybody. 429 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: I mean that probability is close to one hundred percent 430 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: ninety nine point nine nine seven, and that Edward the 431 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: third has around one hundred million descendants in the British Isles, Europe, 432 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: the former British colonies, which of course includes the United 433 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: States and Canada, and also Australia. 434 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: So we see that more people have more ancestors in 435 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: common than we might have thought. Are we all playing 436 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: some weird family themed version of six Degrees of Kevin Bacon? 437 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: The answer is kind of yes, but it's it's more 438 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: with everyone you know. Writing in Family Tree Magazine with 439 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: the article what is pedigree Collapse, author Diane Haddad and 440 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: I think that's a cool last name says that a 441 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: Rutgers University professor estimates eighty percent of historical marriages took 442 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: place between second or first cousins. To Knowle's earlier point, 443 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: the idea of preserving not just a bloodline, but resources, property, 444 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: inheritable goods applied to the common folk as well as 445 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: the aristocrats. And it may just have been a matter 446 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: of people available people. You know, Folks didn't travel as 447 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: widely as they do now. Oh totally, And so this 448 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: leads us to a This leads us to another question. 449 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: If it does indeed turn out that all human beings 450 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: are in some way related, then does that mean that 451 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: miss Davignon was correct. Are all us presidents related? Well? Yeah, 452 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: sort of kind of, But we do have one fun 453 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: fact about I believe it was Franklin Roosevelt. Isn't that right? Nol? 454 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, So while that fifth degree connection between FDR and 455 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: Teddy Roosevelt, it's probably the most obvious surface you want 456 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: with them sharing that pretty memorable last name, you know, 457 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: with the assumption of some sort of political dynasty that 458 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: spoiler alert and he can's not really spoiler at. 459 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: This point is not a thing. 460 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: FDR was actually related to quite a few other presidents, 461 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: including are odd man out of the whole King John Debacle, 462 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 3: President Martin van Buren third cousins twice removed to Teddy Roosevelt. 463 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: How does that even work? 464 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: I don't understand, Like, if Van Buren wasn't connected to 465 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: King John, then how could he be third cousins to FDR? 466 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: Who? It makes my head spin? Ben, right, Yeah. 467 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: It's surprising. In addition that list the other presidents would 468 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: include John Adams, James Madison, John Quincy Adams Buren as 469 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, Noel William, Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, the 470 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: guy with the arsenic conspiracy theory about his death, Andrew Johnson, 471 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: Lyssys S. Grant, Benjamin Harrison, Willie Taft, and of course, 472 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: last but not least, Teddy himself, Theodore Roosevelt. Yeah. 473 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: I think it's a total of eleven US presidents, either 474 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: by blood or by marriage. 475 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: And now this leads to a question that we would 476 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: love to close on with you. The question you may 477 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 1: have is, well, how many how many people am I 478 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: related to? Am I really related to everyone? 479 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: Guys? 480 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: Am I related to you? Casey, Ben and Nole? The 481 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: answer is yes, distantly distantly. Some geneticists estimate that we 482 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: are all all seven point five billion plus of us 483 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: are at least fiftieth cousins. 484 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: Well, we're all made of star stuff, Ben. 485 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. And is this bad for us genetically, No, 486 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: not really. It's it's surprising, and I think it's a 487 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: little bit inspiring because there's so many people in the 488 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: world that I can feel like a disconnected, lonely place 489 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: at times, but everywhere you go in some way you're 490 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: hanging out with your family. 491 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: Man, A fifth is fine, fiftieth is definitely fine. 492 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: Right, that's true. And as we close today, the number 493 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: for the world's population to show how much it has 494 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: increased is seven five eight three one sixty five eight 495 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: nine nine billion people. By twenty twenty five, our global 496 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: family will be over eight billion people. And who knows 497 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: where our Ridiculous History family will be. But we want 498 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: to thank you so much for checking out the show. 499 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: Thanks for bearing with us on this one. This was 500 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: a fun one, but it was a little circuitous. But 501 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it very much, Ben, how about you? 502 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Likewise, likewise, we can only hope that Casey enjoyed 503 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: it or at least tolerated us. 504 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: He's making a. 505 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: Face he's making, he's making, hopefully, the face of a state. 506 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: It's a face of love. 507 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: It's literally looking into the face of goodness and love. 508 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: Yes. 509 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: And in addition, think in Casey, we'd of course like 510 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: to thank you. We'd like to thank Alex Williams, who 511 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: composed our track. 512 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: It's true. 513 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: We would like to thank Mark Zuckerberg for inventing Facebook, 514 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: where you can find us at Ridiculous History. We also 515 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: have a pretty cool little Facebook group called the Ridiculous Historians. 516 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: If you want to be a member, you can do that, 517 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: and there's some really fun conversations and we're looking to 518 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: mind some of the suggestions there for future episodes. 519 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: And you can. 520 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: See Ben Little Ben dressed up as a cowboy at 521 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: Opryland as a child, and you can see me doing 522 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: a karaoke song. That's just the kind of fun shenanigans 523 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: we get up to with the Ridiculous Historians. 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Of course, 533 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: if social media is not your thing, we want to 534 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: hear from you. I mean, we're practically family now. You 535 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: can write to us directly. We are Ridiculous at HowStuffWorks 536 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, no, it's the end of this. Do 537 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: you want to just go out on a sing a long? 538 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 539 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: Okay, we are family and body and. 540 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: We family fifty family. God? Oh, is it over? It's over. 541 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: Let's make it over. 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