WEBVTT - Best NFL Week 4 Bets + Favorite Props (Ep. 13)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there everyone, Welcome back to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Betting Pros NFL podcast, brought to you by bet MGM.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Dan Harris and you can find me

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter at Dan Harris Adi. It's time to break

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<v Speaker 1>down some of our favorite and least favorite bets for

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<v Speaker 1>the week four NFL slate, and with me to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it all is JJ Appersina, the lead YouTube contributor

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<v Speaker 1>for sharp Side. You can find him on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 1>sports with Facts. JJ. How you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's up, Dan, happy to happy to be here. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, we were just talking about it. You're from Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from Queens. It's good sort of, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>moved up into the middle of nowhere. It's nice for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit just to talk with somebody who reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of home, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a match made in heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, we're getting along great even before we got on.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's keep it going here. As we always do

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<v Speaker 1>on our Thursday night show, We're going to each give

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<v Speaker 1>our three best bets for this weekend's games. We'll give

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<v Speaker 1>one bet to avoid, and then we'll list our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>prop bet for the weekend. But JJ look, I usually

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<v Speaker 1>like to ease our guests into this, okay, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>on a pretty good run here with the picks after

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<v Speaker 1>going three and oh for week two, follow that up

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<v Speaker 1>last week with another three and oh week, getting right

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills and Bengals under forty four, the Rams laying

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<v Speaker 1>three to the Browns and the Saints getting four from

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<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks. And our guest Adam Burke now two of

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<v Speaker 1>his three picks, with the Lions getting six and a

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<v Speaker 1>half from the Eagles and the Rams and the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>coming in under forty seven and a half. So are

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<v Speaker 1>you ready to bring the thunder here or what?

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<v Speaker 2>So much pressure? But look, pressure makes diamonds, right, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Prepared absolutely hopefully you'll be the diamond in the rough. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as always, we're gonna get started here with pick six,

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<v Speaker 1>where both JJ and I are going to give three

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<v Speaker 1>of our favorite bets for this weekend, either against the

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<v Speaker 1>spread or on the over under. Now, as always, I

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<v Speaker 1>will note at the outset that, as I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>are recording this during the Thursday night game between the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and the Eagles, so we won't be making any

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<v Speaker 1>picks on that game. But if you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>how I pick that game. You can go to bettingpros

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. That's going to show you how I and

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<v Speaker 1>every betting expert who makes picks on the site made

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<v Speaker 1>their picks for every game on the slate. We'll also

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<v Speaker 1>be using the betting pros dot com consensus odds and

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<v Speaker 1>making our picks. Those are the aggregate odds that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to find available in the market. All right, JJ,

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<v Speaker 1>start us off. What's your first pick here?

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<v Speaker 2>I myself not gonna be the most popular one. I

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<v Speaker 2>can only assume, but I'm actually big here on the

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<v Speaker 2>Oakland Raiders getting seven against the Indianapolis Colts. Just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to confirm a consensus at this moment, and yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>seeing more or less some seven, some six and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe you'll be able to get seven if

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<v Speaker 2>you wait long enough at your your current book. It

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<v Speaker 2>is worth noting as well. And for the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>already know, you know kind of my stick. For me,

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<v Speaker 2>the number is so important when you're betting NFL in

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<v Speaker 2>particlo I mean any sport for that matter, but the

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<v Speaker 2>number is important. Having a good idea of the market

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<v Speaker 2>in which way the market's going to swing A line

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<v Speaker 2>in one direction or the other right now that everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of drinking the Colts kool aid, especially after if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember, before the season started with no Andrew luck,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was kind of against this team. Now it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like the market it has taken too big of a

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<v Speaker 2>shift in favor of the Colts here. Last week they

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<v Speaker 2>were playing the Falcons, where the Falcons were an extremely

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<v Speaker 2>popular play, at least as far as the market goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously the Colts handle business. You might look at the

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<v Speaker 2>final score and see they only one by three, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you watch the game, you knew the Colts more

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<v Speaker 2>or less handled business throughout. They also have a road

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<v Speaker 2>win at the Titans in a primetime spot. For me,

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<v Speaker 2>this is becoming a situation where this line is too big. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, Ook was not an easy team to back,

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<v Speaker 2>right that just got Mali wopped by Minnesota, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>they lost to the Chiefs after an interesting Week one,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just feel like we now have too much

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<v Speaker 2>of a market overreaction here in favor of the Colts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge number here. There's a lot of factors

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<v Speaker 2>I could break down in this game specifically, but for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really about the number here. If this one was

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<v Speaker 2>four and a half or five, I'd be staying away.

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<v Speaker 2>But at seven, I love this play. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorites of the week. Give me the Raiders plus

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<v Speaker 2>all seven points versus the Colts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right now, the consensus odds have been bouncing back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth a little bit between six and a half

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<v Speaker 1>and seven. Right now they're at six and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll be honest, I like them even at that

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<v Speaker 1>number as well. The Sharps, by the way, at the

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<v Speaker 1>breakdown of the money coming in the public is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>heavily on Indianapolis, but the amount of money that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>being met is overwhelmingly about three quarters seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of Oakland given the spread. And I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you, and really, if for no other reason, then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got some major injuries here on the cult side, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean t Y Hilton. I don't think his practice

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<v Speaker 1>yet this week. He reinjured his squad last week. That

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<v Speaker 1>could be a big deal. And Darius Leonard is probably

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be able to suit up either. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know you pointed out the exact right issue is

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<v Speaker 1>that backing Oakland just feels kind of dirty for lack

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<v Speaker 1>of a better way to say it, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't inspire a whole lot of confidence, and they do,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, have some injuries to their linebacking court too.

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<v Speaker 1>But I agree with you at this point, the line

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<v Speaker 1>is a little big, and you're right, the public perception

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<v Speaker 1>has kind of gone all the way in the other

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<v Speaker 1>way toward towards the cults here. So on our consensus,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually sixty eight percent of experts are backing Indy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm with you here. I like the Raiders here

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<v Speaker 1>for basically most of the reasons you described, and really

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries that are going on with Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the injuries are definitely going to be a headache.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to assume Hilton's gonna play. I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously Friday's a big day for injury information.

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume Hilton will play. But regardless, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it's a number play. This number is four

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<v Speaker 2>and a half. It's a stay away spot, six and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, seven, it's a rock solid slam Oakland spot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the only reason why I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>Hilton's gonna play anyway is they've got case next week.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a game where you're gonna need them

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're Indy, you're probably thinking that you can get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here with a win even without Hilton. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for all the factors you said, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit surprised at the breakdown of the consensus.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought more people would be back in Oakland. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, I've got you. If it's six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, if it's seven, I agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 1>For my first pick, I'm not sure how you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>feel about this one, my friend, but I'm going with

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots laying seven to the Bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about this on Monday with Rich Ryan when

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<v Speaker 1>we gave our initial reaction to the lines, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just have this feeling that the Patriots are gonna absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>blow the Bills out of the way. Now, there are

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<v Speaker 1>some questions on the Patriots heading into this game, but honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just that the Bills are really overrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's talk about them for a second, because

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<v Speaker 1>they've been involved in one of my picks for each

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<v Speaker 1>of the last two weeks. I took them going up

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<v Speaker 1>against the Giants and then I bet against them laying

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<v Speaker 1>four to the Bengals last week, but they've played three games.

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<v Speaker 1>They should have lost to the Jets, and would have

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<v Speaker 1>in Week one had CJ. Moseley not been injured in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half. They beat up on a porous Eli

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<v Speaker 1>Manning led Giants team in Week two, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>barely squeaked by what is an adequate but generally unimpressive

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals team at home. Now, the defense is legitimate, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to agree they there. They were very, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year. They allowed just four point nine yards per play,

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<v Speaker 1>that was third best in the league. They're giving up

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<v Speaker 1>almost the exact same number this year four point eight

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<v Speaker 1>yards per play. At Oliver and Tremaine Edmonds are playing

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<v Speaker 1>great for Deavius White continues to play well in coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>They did lose Harrison Phillips. It's going to hurt a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny bit, but I don't really think it's enough to

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference. The defense is really strong, but regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not good enough to stop the Patriots offense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not Almost no defense is. And I say

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<v Speaker 1>that with the full understanding that the Patriots may not

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<v Speaker 1>have Julian Edelman for this game, and James Devlin is out,

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<v Speaker 1>and that actually really affects their running game. It is

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<v Speaker 1>all irrelevant to me. The coaching staff is too good.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll find ways to use James White and Rex Burkhead

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<v Speaker 1>and Philip Rssett will get involved. Brady hasn't exactly lit

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills up in his history against Sean McDermot and

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie Fraser's defense, but in the last two years, the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots have outscored the Bills in Buffalo forty eight to nine.

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<v Speaker 1>And going the opposite way, I do not see the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills being able to put up all that many points

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<v Speaker 1>against the Patriots defense. I mean, regardless of the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of the opponent. That defense is elite. Gilmour is playing

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the best corners in the league. Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>Collins is wreaking havoc all over the field. They've got depth,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got speed. They've got six interceptions already in three games,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they face a guy who has more than

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<v Speaker 1>an interception per game in his career. They have not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed a point in the first half of their last

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<v Speaker 1>five games, dating back to their playoff game against the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs and the Super Bowl against the Rams. The weather

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be fine. That can always be something

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<v Speaker 1>that happens in Buffalo, but it's early, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the sixties and sunny. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a statement game for the Pats. I think they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>in here. They've got another three to zero team who

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<v Speaker 1>really isn't that good. I think they want to make

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<v Speaker 1>a statement. This is their AFC East. They're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let it be wrestled away. So I think they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go up there, and I think they're gonna win

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<v Speaker 1>this game handly. So I will take the Patriots, even

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<v Speaker 1>at that key number. It's a high number, laying seven,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take the Patriots. And I really don't have too

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<v Speaker 1>many second thoughts about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I really legitimately like the call, but only to a

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<v Speaker 2>certain extent. And here's the logic that I kind of see.

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<v Speaker 2>You bring up a ton of good points. This is

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<v Speaker 2>really the Patriots division. Year in year out. The Bills

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<v Speaker 2>could be somewhat of fluff, especially based on who they played,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Jets, Giants, Bangles. But if you take

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<v Speaker 2>a step back and realize who the Patriots have played,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you make the argument for all, well, there's

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<v Speaker 2>enough parody in the league where you're really good teams

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<v Speaker 2>can always beat up on the bad teams. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers, Dolphins, and Jets. Koby, the Steelers are not

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<v Speaker 2>what we thought they were going to be, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>there's no Roethlisberger, and then the Dolphins and the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>are two teams in the NFL. I don't mind the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that, oh, well, the Buffalo Bills haven't played anyboddy

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<v Speaker 2>and now they're really getting their first test. But for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a tough spot for me because I truly

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how good the Buffalo Bills are or aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the assumptions could be made that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>that good. But remember this was a team that was

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<v Speaker 2>getting a lot of hype preseason about their improvements on

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<v Speaker 2>defense and interesting to see how they play here now.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this would have this would have been

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<v Speaker 2>to the Buffalo's advantage if this game's played a little

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<v Speaker 2>later in the year, where it's a little colder, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some snow, maybe you could really lean on the home crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bill's mafia. By the way, how is it not

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<v Speaker 2>on everybody's bucket list to go through a table outside

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo Stadium? Pregame. But look, ultimately I do like the call.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it was a more or less a stay

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<v Speaker 2>away spot at seven hoping to get I'd hope to

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<v Speaker 2>get six and a half on one side or seven

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<v Speaker 2>and a half on the other if I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to bet it. But again, I can't question anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>backs New England against Buffalo, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And to be clear, I don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>one where everybody's going to be backing this pick. Whatsoe?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think people like the Bills and they

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<v Speaker 1>do have a legitimate defense. I want to make that clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not insulting those fans. I went to school in Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree going to tailgating there is crazy and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy spot. The crowd's going to be raucous. But

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<v Speaker 1>without that weather, it's not quite as bad as it

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<v Speaker 1>would be. And regardless, it's just not enough to stop

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots at this point. Honestly, I would feel better

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<v Speaker 1>about the Bills had they lost a game at some

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<v Speaker 1>point coming in. I think when you have the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>East Showdown both three and zero, I think, realistically the

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<v Speaker 1>Pats are just going to go in there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to want to make a statement. The

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<v Speaker 1>injuries are slightly concerning. If Henlelman misses the game, eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to have somebody to throw the ball

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<v Speaker 1>to because Josh Gordon is also battling injury. At least

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<v Speaker 1>last week against the Jets, he was on and off

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<v Speaker 1>the field, so it's a little worrisome he is practicing

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<v Speaker 1>on a limited basis. But regardless, this just feels to

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<v Speaker 1>me like this is going to be the statement game

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<v Speaker 1>for the Pats. So I'm willing to lay the big number.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree seven is a lot, but I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 1>lay it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the call real quick. The receivers injuries, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't real work too much about that, Dan. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, they could just slop me and

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<v Speaker 2>you in there and we could easily have pick up

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<v Speaker 2>five six camels.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not us, but like two reasonably athletic human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably correct. But yeah, no, I agree. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 1>if Edelman misses the game, I'm still taking the Pats

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<v Speaker 1>at this number. It'll be all James White and Rex

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<v Speaker 1>Burkhead and some receiver who I've never heard of before.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm really not concerned about it. Again, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it is the mindset, and I'm a Jets fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I have watched the Patriots closely over the last twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years or so, and realistically, this just strikes me as

0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.800
<v Speaker 1>them being like, oh, really, you're three and zero, You're

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<v Speaker 1>coming here. You're saying you want to take this division,

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<v Speaker 1>you will take it from my cold dead hands. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's just how I see this game unfolding. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an overly popular pick. I think the money,

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<v Speaker 1>if anything, trends towards the Bills here. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>consensus picks are relatively even, maybe even a little shaded

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<v Speaker 1>towards the Bills last time I checked. But in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really comfortable with this game. So I'm gonna do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonna have too many worries about it personally.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to here. Second pick, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>got for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Denver Broncos minus three versus the Jacksonville Jaguars. I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe you could get two and a half, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least you could have gotten two and a half. I

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<v Speaker 2>think now I'm starting to starting to see three and

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<v Speaker 2>a half definitely, like really like three in this spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the logic. I know that the Broncos are ower

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<v Speaker 2>and three, and I know they just lost a really

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<v Speaker 2>bad game to the Packers. You know, it's not bad

0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.480
<v Speaker 2>that you lost to the Packers, but obviously they didn't cover,

0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.439
<v Speaker 2>they didn't play well. They're also one and two against

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<v Speaker 2>the spread, with their loan win being a game against Chicago,

0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.319
<v Speaker 2>where pending when you bet it, they actually could have

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<v Speaker 2>been zero and three against the spread. The reason I

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<v Speaker 2>like the spot here is really in the trenches. You

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at Denver's defensive line and what they

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<v Speaker 2>can bring to the table from the linebacker perspective as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and that Jacksonville offensive line. It's just one of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst and offensive lines in the NFL haven't had really

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<v Speaker 2>that many opportunities to be exposed all that much. Yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Titans, Texans chiefs. Obviously Texans can bring a

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<v Speaker 2>good pass rush, but more or less they kind of

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<v Speaker 2>held Jacksonville in check for the most part. There. Thinking here, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is you get the young quarterback Garner Minshew has to

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<v Speaker 2>travel to Denver. This will be what I believe to

0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.280
<v Speaker 2>be his first true road game as a starter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that he kind of sloted in in Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. But ultimately this is gonna be a tough

0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.400
<v Speaker 2>place to play for him. And again, a lot of

0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:18.800
<v Speaker 2>pressure is going to be assumed to come up the

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<v Speaker 2>middle for him. He's gonna have to do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of scrambling, make a lot of uncomfortable throws. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that it's tough to back Denver and Joe Flacco and

0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.360
<v Speaker 2>how that offense has been producing. But again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you beat Jacksonville, right? You beat them with

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<v Speaker 2>the run game. Denver's got a very good run game

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<v Speaker 2>with Philip Lindsay and Royce Freeman. I would expect them

0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.319
<v Speaker 2>to lean heavy on that. A lot of screens play action,

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<v Speaker 2>and again, you know, the whole Jayalin Ramsey situation is

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<v Speaker 2>still weird. For me. This is a big slam spot

0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.040
<v Speaker 2>for the Broncos. Again. I know they're zero to three.

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<v Speaker 2>I know everybody's drinking the Gardner Minshew kool aid, But

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<v Speaker 2>for me, the numbers a little too small here. Jacksonville's

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<v Speaker 2>getting a little too much respect. I know they get

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<v Speaker 2>the extra A few days after Thursday Night Football, everybody

0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.920
<v Speaker 2>watched them win primetime against the Titans, and everybody just

0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.200
<v Speaker 2>watched Denver lose in a bad one against the Packers. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a week to week league. Really like Demver

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<v Speaker 2>in this spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like the amount of curiosity if the number

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<v Speaker 1>sits at three and a half instead of three?

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<v Speaker 2>I do not like them at three and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, the value, the value is really at three.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to I don't I wouldn't want if

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<v Speaker 2>you guys see three and a half, I wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 2>you to play the hook there. But again it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I always say, you need to be leveraging multiple books.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to find yourself success in this space

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<v Speaker 2>and in this industry, you need to be leveraging multiple

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<v Speaker 2>sports books. Because again it's crazy as it might sound.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you're leveraging four or five sports books,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know it's kind of hard to keep that

0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.640
<v Speaker 2>much money tied up in different areas, But if you're

0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.920
<v Speaker 2>leveraging that many sports books, you're going to notice differences

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<v Speaker 2>in lines. Whether it's fifteen twenty cents here, fifteen twenty

0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.440
<v Speaker 2>cents there, half a point here, half a point there.

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<v Speaker 2>Might not matter in a one week sample, but multiply

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<v Speaker 2>that by fifty two weeks, by three four years. You're talking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're talking easily an additional thirty forty bets

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<v Speaker 2>over the course of a season, maybe even more, that

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<v Speaker 2>are in your favor one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. And one of the things on

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<v Speaker 1>bettingpros dot com is we give the consensus odds, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you want to see what is out there generally

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<v Speaker 1>in the market. But it also lists the various odds

0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that are available at different sports books. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Jaguars and the Broncos, you'll see there

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<v Speaker 1>are some sports books that are at three. There are

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<v Speaker 1>some sports books that are at three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>So you really want to pick and choose your battles.

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<v Speaker 1>As for me, I lean in your direction. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable again to go with Denver. How do they not

0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.720
<v Speaker 1>have a sack on the year? I do not understand.

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<v Speaker 1>My guess is you pointed out the problems with the

0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars line that they're gonna get a bunch. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be motivated this week. I'm a little I

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<v Speaker 1>get a little worried about the Mini bi you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the playing off of Thursday. Teams like that. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like generally come out strong, but They're probably coming off

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a high, and I think Denver really,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if they're gonna do anything this season, which

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<v Speaker 1>they're obviously not, but if they're going to at all

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<v Speaker 1>make a statement for this season, it's gonna be here

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<v Speaker 1>at home against a very mediocre team, against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a kid making his third professional start. So I lean

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<v Speaker 1>towards your way. I don't know if I would have

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<v Speaker 1>enough to take it at laying three, but I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>lean your way. I do think that the defense is

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<v Speaker 1>going to come out and try to make a statement here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to my second pick, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the under on the Panthers Texans, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is at forty seven and a half. Look, Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Allen looked great last week, and frankly, had he been

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback for the Panthers since the start of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that they're three and zero right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is much more because of how bad Cam

0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Newton was. I think everyone's going just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>crazy about evaluating Allen off a game against a truly

0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.920
<v Speaker 1>terrible defense in the Cardinals. I know he looked good

0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.680
<v Speaker 1>when he filled in at the very end of last year,

0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.200
<v Speaker 1>but you really can't draw too many conclusions from that.

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<v Speaker 1>With a full game of tape and obviously a much

0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.720
<v Speaker 1>stronger defense here with the Texans, I think Alan is

0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.840
<v Speaker 1>going to have a much tougher time moving the Panthers

0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.760
<v Speaker 1>towards scoring points. Now. The Texans are solid against the run.

0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.920
<v Speaker 1>They're not spectacular, but they're solid enough. They're same against

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<v Speaker 1>the pass despite the fact that they've had a tough

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<v Speaker 1>matchup with Drew Brees. You mentioned the fact that they

0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.680
<v Speaker 1>can get to the quarterback, and playing in Arizona like

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<v Speaker 1>Allen did last week, it's not even like a really

0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.399
<v Speaker 1>road game. I mean, they never play well at home.

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<v Speaker 1>The fans aren't crazy right now, but playing in Houston

0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 1>certainly is a road game, so I expect the Panthers

0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.800
<v Speaker 1>offense to largely be held in check. On the flip side,

0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.200
<v Speaker 1>their defense overall remains very strong. They're allowing just four

0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.679
<v Speaker 1>point three yards per play, and they're particularly good against

0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the pass. And the fact that they're so good against

0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the paths is really what leads me towards the under here.

0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.679
<v Speaker 1>They put a lot of pressure on opposing quarterbacks at

0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.920
<v Speaker 1>least thirty percent of the time in each of their

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<v Speaker 1>first three games so far. James Bradbury is playing extremely

0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.240
<v Speaker 1>well right now, so is Dante Jackson, and they're generally

0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.800
<v Speaker 1>holding a pass offenses in check. Their real weak spot

0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.359
<v Speaker 1>is against the run, and that's gotten a little better

0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in recent weeks, although some of that is the opponent,

0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.520
<v Speaker 1>but regardless, that is just not where the Texans butter

0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.360
<v Speaker 1>their bread. They don't involve Duke Johnson much. Carlos Hide

0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.480
<v Speaker 1>has been fine, but he is not going to run

0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.199
<v Speaker 1>down the Panthers throat. It's not the place that the

0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Texans can really exploit another team in the end. This

0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 1>strikes me as a kind of tight defensive game where

0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.959
<v Speaker 1>neither team piles up the point. So I'm happily going

0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to take the under here at forty seven and a half,

0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:12.800
<v Speaker 1>like like the call.

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<v Speaker 2>Now for one thing that I will tell you with

0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Houston specifically and Deshaun Watson. First of all, I don't

0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.760
<v Speaker 2>think there's anybody in the NFL that takes more sacks

0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.160
<v Speaker 2>than him, and I don't think it's and I don't

0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:21.920
<v Speaker 2>think it's an issue with that offensive line. He just sits.

0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.080
<v Speaker 2>He just holds onto the ball too.

0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Long, forever, forever. He's gonna get He's gonna get rid

0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.360
<v Speaker 1>one of these times. He's going to get hit this year,

0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I bet, and he's going to be out for at least,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, most of the game. He just he holds

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<v Speaker 1>up ball forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he's a big dude. I mean, you know,

0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:37.680
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to kind of tell that he is, you know,

0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:38.840
<v Speaker 2>on the screen when you look at him next to

0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.040
<v Speaker 2>offensive lineman. But he's a big dude. He's in great shape.

0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:42.879
<v Speaker 2>But you're right, I mean, he's not Michael Vick. You know,

0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.720
<v Speaker 2>he's not Michael Vick, but he's not Cam Newton. He's

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere in between as far as size goes. Sure, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's definitely a big boy, so he could take his

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<v Speaker 2>fair share of hits. But he you know, he's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>holds on it way too long and could find himself

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<v Speaker 2>getting blindsided one of these days, and yeah, be in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of trouble. But ultimately, for me, as long

0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.440
<v Speaker 2>as Carolina can keep this slow scoring for themselves. And

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<v Speaker 2>I say that because Houston just always appears to be

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<v Speaker 2>one of those teams week in and week out that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like if they go down big, you almost

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<v Speaker 2>kind of know they're gonna come back, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>based on how Watson, you know, almost like turns Madden

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<v Speaker 2>on as starts running around back there and finding Hopkins

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<v Speaker 2>fine and fuller. So you would hope that you can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of keep this low scoring in the in the

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<v Speaker 2>low twenties towards the end of it, maybe in the

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<v Speaker 2>low teens, you know, for the first half, because again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel like if Carolina starts getting going,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Houston's gonna get that same mojo. But ultimately it

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<v Speaker 2>does make a lot of sense. It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>tough test for Kyle Allen going up against that Houston

0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:39.000
<v Speaker 2>defensive front, so you think they'd be able to keep

0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.919
<v Speaker 2>him in check. And again Carolina's defense is no such either.

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Would expect plenty of sacks on their end, maybe evenna

0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.800
<v Speaker 2>turn over to really like this spot under as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if if Kyle Allen is what he looked

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<v Speaker 1>like last week, this is just gonna fly over. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's no doubt because you said it exactly right.

0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Houston can look terrible in a game, Watson can look

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.399
<v Speaker 1>totally lo and then as you aptly put it, he

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<v Speaker 1>goes Matten without question. I mean, he can just do

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<v Speaker 1>that and put up twenty one points in the span

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.080
<v Speaker 1>of eight minutes without blinking an eye. But I don't

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:11.920
<v Speaker 1>think that's how this game is gonna play out. I

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<v Speaker 1>could be wrong on Alan, and if I am, then

0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.320
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be able to just light it up.

0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.919
<v Speaker 1>But I don't see that happening in this game against

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<v Speaker 1>a much stronger defense than he played last week. I

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<v Speaker 1>think in the end, it's going to be tight for

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<v Speaker 1>most of the game, So Watson's not going to do

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<v Speaker 1>the thing where he's going to go Superman. They're going

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.240
<v Speaker 1>to do what they can, but again, I don't expect

0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.320
<v Speaker 1>them to be able to do that much on the

0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:31.879
<v Speaker 1>passing side of the ball. I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to use the run game that's gonna eat up

0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 1>some clock which helps the under So for me, I

0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.280
<v Speaker 1>feel pretty good about it. But you know, I if

0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Allen does this again, then I'm going to have

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to completely reevaluate the way I feel generally about the Panthers.

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But for now, I'm willing to write off last week

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 1>for the most part as playing a game against a really,

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.240
<v Speaker 1>really bad Arizona defense. Let's move on to your third

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:52.919
<v Speaker 1>pick here, what he.

0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Got the Detroit Lions getting six and a half bones

0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 2>versus the Kansas City Chiefs. Now, this is a game,

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<v Speaker 2>a number play. You know, most of the guys know

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 2>that they follow me already that I'm all about targeting

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.560
<v Speaker 2>certain numbers. Now you may see this line opened at

0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.439
<v Speaker 2>four and a half. There was actually plenty of spots

0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:11.399
<v Speaker 2>this opened at three and a half. The fact that

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<v Speaker 2>I can get six and a half here with a team,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, that's been competitive in every game they've played. Now,

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.760
<v Speaker 2>if you make the argument that okay, well the Cardinals

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 2>aren't really that good, fine, but they were winning against

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.160
<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals pretty big. They went into a prevent defense

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and allowed Arizona to come back. They handled the Chargers,

0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 2>They most certainly handled the Eagles. That three point score

0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.879
<v Speaker 2>does not nearly show how dominant Detroit was throughout. This

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.440
<v Speaker 2>is just a team that's doing enough to hang around. Now,

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Slay I know, is a little banged up and he's

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<v Speaker 2>a big, a big time player for them on the

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.679
<v Speaker 2>defensive side at the corner position, so hopefully he can play.

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.919
<v Speaker 2>But either way, this is a gigantic number for Detroit. Now,

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.159
<v Speaker 2>I know Kansas City is a very public public betting

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 2>team as they should be that cover a lot of spreads.

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes is very fun to watch. It's a very quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote sexy quarterback with all the big throws and all

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the flashy plays. But again, if there's a team that

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.000
<v Speaker 2>can really slow him down at least somewhat defensively, you

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.119
<v Speaker 2>would think not only could Detroit do it, but you

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 2>would also think that Stafford and Gala Day and carry on.

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Johnson could keep up pace with this team if this

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.600
<v Speaker 2>had to get into the high twenties. Really like the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a big number and Detroit actually

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.920
<v Speaker 2>has an opportunity here to surprise folks and maybe pull

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<v Speaker 2>the upset.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to disagree with anything you said, and

0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Detroit has been one of the surprise teams for me.

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>They are much much better than I expected them. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>my issue with this when I look at them, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not Detroit, really Kansas City. I forget if it was

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.959
<v Speaker 1>Rufus Peabody or if it was Rich Ryan. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking on Monday, who used the term modelbusters, which

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.439
<v Speaker 1>is just you can look at a game and you

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<v Speaker 1>can analyze it and you could say this is what

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>should happen. And that is how I feel exactly the

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 1>reasons that you said. Assuming that Sleigh is there, which

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I know wouldn't move the line much, but here it

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.399
<v Speaker 1>would be pretty significant. When I look at the line,

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that line's too high on what I've seen out of Detroit,

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and based on the fact that Detroit's going to be home,

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 1>they easily could be three and h and yet I

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<v Speaker 1>would have such a tough time going up against Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like what he's able to do sometimes

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>just defies what you can do when you just rationally

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<v Speaker 1>look at a game. Does that make sense what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the ye oh yeah, one hundred percent. I mean,

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, you see this in a bunch of other

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 2>sports as well. NFL it hasn't been as common over

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 2>the last few years. I mean, the NFL is more

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:31.639
<v Speaker 2>or less a true number spot where you got to

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 2>bet certain numbers and you've got to stay away from

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>certain numbers as it relates to the market and the

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 2>betting place. But there are some guys from year to

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 2>year that make a difference. I mean, I remember Cam Newton.

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 2>You know Cam Newton in college you know, reminds me

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 2>of a lot. I mean, you know, Auburn really wasn't

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 2>meant to even be that good that year that he played.

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<v Speaker 2>At least he's he's at least what means the most

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<v Speaker 2>to me in reference to what Mahomes has been doing

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 2>at the NFL level, because you're right. I mean, you know,

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 2>you put the numbers in front of you, you put

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.920
<v Speaker 2>projections in front of you, and and numbers make sense

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>to back almost it almost numbers make sense to almost

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 2>fade Kansas City every week. But week in and week out,

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes overperforms models. And even if you adjust the models,

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can't adjust models where you're projecting Mahomes

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 2>to throw for three to fifty every week. So you know,

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:16.959
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, you're completely right. There

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 2>are certain players that can be model busters, and Mahomes

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 2>has certainly been this way early on his career, whether

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>it's Andy Reid and him being a perfect potion together,

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 2>or you know, just his talent when overlooked by many.

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 2>But regardless, he is quite a stud. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>really like the like the number here. This wasn't that

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I know that teams that Kansasity have been playing have

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>been getting loved the last few weeks. And I know

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore backdoor covers last week. Well, unless you got it

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 2>really late, you would have covered with Kansas City then

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>at four and a half or four. But again for me,

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.640
<v Speaker 2>strong number here with Detroit at home, who's looked very competitive.

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City may have too much speed, but ultimately time

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 2>will tell, and I do believe Detroit can keep pace.

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 2>They've looked really good offensively as well as defensively thus far.

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they really Again, as I've said, they really surprised me.

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:05.399
<v Speaker 1>They've been very impressive pretty much across the board. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you pick this one because I was definitely

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 1>considering picking it, but it hurts a little bit to

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>have to make that actual strong statement against my home,

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad you pick it. I don't disagree with

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>any of the reasoning. I certainly lean towards the Lions.

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether or not eventually when I make

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>my final selections this week, when I place all my bets,

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>whether or not I'm going to actually wind up pulling

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>the trigger. But if I do, I'm sure it's going

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to be on the Lions. Let's go to my third

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>pick here, which is something that also I don't feel

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with, but when I've looked at it, I just

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't really get away from it. And it's the

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals getting six at home against the Seahawks. Now, this

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 1>line has moved, and it's moved pretty hard. I think

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>the look aheadline may have been Arizona getting three and

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>a half perhaps, so it's jumped pretty significantly in favor

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>of Seattle. And the number of bets here is roughly

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent in favor of the Seahawks, but the

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 1>total amount bet is close to fifty to fifty would

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 1>suggest that there's probably more sharpbetters in on the Cardinals,

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think there's an obvious reason why, and that

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>obvious reason is that the Seahawks just are not very good.

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I explained it a lot last week when I took

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.679
<v Speaker 1>the Saints getting four points against Seattle. But they barely

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:18.959
<v Speaker 1>squeaked by the Bengals at home in Week one, and

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>barely squeaked by a Pittsburgh team that had to put

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>in Mason Rudolph mid game, and despite the final score

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>last week, they lost pretty handily to the Saints in

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>their home building. Led by Teddy Bridgewater and again I

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.439
<v Speaker 1>talked about it last in the week. The strength of

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 1>their defensive unit is their linebackers, right, so they just

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty much leave their base package out there all day long,

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 1>which means if you can throw on them, and pretty

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>much everyone can throw on them, then they're vulnerable. Kyler

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 1>Murray liked Deshaun Watson. Then we said he holds the

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.199
<v Speaker 1>ball way too long, and that's devastating when you have

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>a terrible offensive line and the run game it's pretty

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>much non existent.

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>They don't run the ball well, and they don't attempt

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to run it enough. They're twenty six in the league

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.919
<v Speaker 1>in both of those categories. But the way Seattle schemes

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>on defense and the struggles that they have against the pass,

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>I think the Cardinals are going to be able to

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>move the ball fairly well. Now you take the flip

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>side here, the Cardinals defense is terrible, okay, particularly given

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 1>their missing pieces at cornerback. But I look at this

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.679
<v Speaker 1>game as being one where the Seahawks really want to

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>get their run game going against the third worst rush

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>defense in the league. They want to get Chris Carson

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>back on track. Rareshad Penny May come back. They want

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>to run the ball generally as much as any team

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 1>in the league. So if Russell Wilson wanted to, or

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>if he had an offensive coordinator who wanted him to,

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 1>he could go nuts against this pass defense, kind of

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like he did at the end of last game. But

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have an offensive coordinator who wants to do that,

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>So I don't expect their repeat of last week. I

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>expect more of a repeat of the game against the

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Bengals in Week one, where the Seahawks won by a point,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 1>a slow, kind of grinded out, methodical win where the

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Seahawks can do what they do best at four points

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>when I saw when I first looked ahead, I was

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable with that line. But at six, it's just something

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>where I don't think I can get away from it

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 1>because I think that number is just too.

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>High, such a good number. I'm only seeing six on

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>a few spots, So it's really it's really a great

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 2>find find by you there. Yeah, I mean, I don't

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>know how you could lay. I don't know how you

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>could lay more than more than four or five with

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Seattle right now, uh on the road against against most teams. UH.

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 2>So for me, it's and I get it. Arizona's kind

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 2>of looked pretty crappy, you know, whether it was offensively

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 2>or defensively, I don't. Offensively, they've kind of looked together

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 2>per se, but uh, you know, they're also you know,

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 2>they're playing at a pace that's that's kind of frantic

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>at least as far as NFL standard goes. And they

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 2>run a ton of four wide receiver sets, so it

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 2>is kind of actually fun to watch them play. But again,

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>you got to figure, you know that Seattle defense obviously

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>is not near what it used to be. You know,

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the only the only question I would have obviously is

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>if if this became a shootout, ken Arizona keep up,

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 2>because that's kind of been their their issue, you know,

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 2>at least most recently where Carolina kind of they were

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of close throughout and then Carolina just hit kept

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>hitting the gas and then Arizona didn't. You know, you

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of know what you're gonna get out of Arizona's defense.

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>But if they can certainly put a few touchdowns up

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>on the board, they'll easily cover this number.

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, my issue with this is that Murray

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>looks great when games start, right he comes out, he's firing,

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>he's super efficient, He's always like fifteen of sixteen. Because

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that Cliff Kingsbury has the first, you know,

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>few drives scripted and then the game keeps going and

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>they kind of run out of scripted plays and they

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>just need to make it up. And when you have that,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that's when Murray starts looking a little bit like a

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>deer in headlights. So if Seattle gets out to a

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>big lead here, yeah, this bet is certainly in trouble,

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I really think, And just reading the tea leaves, he

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>listened to the way Pete Carroll's talking. Again. Last year,

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>they ran the ball roughly fifty percent of the time.

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>It was the most by far in the NFL. And

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>if they that's what they want to be. They don't

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>want to have Russell Wilson running around like a madman,

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>chucking it down the field, potentially getting injured when he's

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>taking off and running all the time. They want to

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>be a run first team. I think they think they

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>can win this game. I could see even worst case scenario,

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.239
<v Speaker 1>a backdoor cover at the very end, but I just

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>don't see this as something where they're going to get

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>way out ahead I think this is going to be

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>one where it's going to be pretty close throughout. Seattle's

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>not going to put their foot on the gas because

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>that's not how they run their offense, right, I mean,

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>they go crazy only when they're behind, and there you

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>know Wilson is going into the Deshaun Watson superman mode.

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>So in the end, I see it as more of

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a run heavy game. I think they need to get

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Chris Carson right. I think they need to go back

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to doing what they want to be doing. And so

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I see this as much more of a close game

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and a divisional one. Again, I think the Seahawks are

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>going to come out on top. And to your point,

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm looking around right now, and when I

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>look at the odds available in the market, if you

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>look at it on fad Duel, it's only five. I

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>don't love it at that number. Six is much different

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to me than five, certainly than four that it was.

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>But that's the point. Look around. If it's at five, no,

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not nearly as comfortable with it. But at six,

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>as it's available at a lot of places, I think

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm good with that. There like the spot, love the number, yep,

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's recap here. JJ. You like the Raiders

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>plus six and a half or seven against the Colts.

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>You like the Broncos laying three to the Jets and

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the Lions getting six and a half from the Chiefs.

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll take the Patriots laying seven to the Bills, the

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Panthers and the Texans to come under forty seven and

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a half, and the Cardinals at home getting six from

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:13.840
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0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>on to it's a trap where we list the line

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that we are avoiding. Why don't you start us off?

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>So one line in particular that I'd like to avoid

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 2>is a total on Monday night football. I think it's

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna look at a you're gonna see a number

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 2>of about forty three and a half. And I think

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>that a lot of people are gonna are gonna more

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 2>or less look at this game. It's gonna be on

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Monday night. They're probably going to bet it over. For me,

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 2>this is a spot where you have more or less

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 2>two defenses that have really been underperforming, specifically Pittsburgh. But again,

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you have two quarterbacks that are so in question, and

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people aren't even gonna are

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna completely look past the spot up until probably Monday afternoon,

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Monday evening, and the more or less end up convincing

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 2>themselves to bet this game over because it's a small number,

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>but you just have two quarterbacks and two offenses who

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 2>have been completely unpredictable. And it's just not a spot

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to be anywhere near come Monday night. It's

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>not a spot I want to bet the over. It's

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 2>not a spot I want to bet the under. It's

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.479
<v Speaker 2>a tricky number with the two teams. With the two

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>teams and specifically the two quarterbacks, you're getting Matt in

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.719
<v Speaker 2>this game, and again along with the spotty defensive play

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and spotty offensive play. So I'd be interested to see

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 2>anybody that could convince me of why the over makes

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 2>sense or why the under makes sense, because to me,

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>neither does.

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I could not agree with you more. I do not

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>know what to do with this game. I looked at

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>this game just even generally, by the way, even with

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the spread, I have no feel for what this game

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>is going to be. I don't have a good stand

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>of what we're going to see from Mason Rudolph. He

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>looked pretty dreadful against the forty nine ers last week.

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>He came up with a couple of big plays. The

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Bengals are weird. Andy Dalton's throwing for a ton of yards,

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>but especially in the divisional game. And it's primetime too,

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>so you really don't know what Dalton is going to

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>show up. It is a thing where I had zero

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>sense for the total coming on here forty four. You know,

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.399
<v Speaker 1>it seems roughly right, and because of that, I don't

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 1>really lean anyway at all. So I think that's actually

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>a really good call, because it's something where I feel

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>like you look at a bet, and you look at

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a number, and whether or not you use a model,

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>or whether or not you project it in advance and

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.439
<v Speaker 1>then look at it, you get a feel for which

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>way you're leaning, and if it's close to the number,

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that's fine for me. I would have no idea what

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to do here with Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, so I love

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the call. I certainly would stay away from it, and

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I would certainly be all over that as well. For me,

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 1>my bet to avoid is the Chargers laying fifteen and

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>a half to the Dolphins. Now, we might be able

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to save some time on this segment in the future

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>if we just insert the Dolphins and whoever they are

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>playing into my pick here every week for the foreseeable future.

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>The Dolphins are historically bad, historically bad, but they gave

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the Dallas a little scare in the first half. They

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>could have been leading in that game, they didn't funnel

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>it away. And every week when I look at the

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>number in the Dolphins game, I see value in the

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins every single week. But again, Rufus Peabody and Rich Ryan,

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>they talked about this concept of model busters, not a

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>novel thing or anything, but how both the Dolphins and

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes with the Chiefs really fit that mold because

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever model you use is gonna tell you that you

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>should probably take the points. And here you've got a

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 1>West Coast team traveling east. They're a little banged up,

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>they don't usually put up a million points, so I

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>can certainly see value in the Dolphins, but I can't

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>take this game. It's not like the last two weeks

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>where it's twenty points or more than that, but it's

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of points. I just can't in good conscience

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>take the Dolphin, even though that's where I think I

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>see the value. It's the type of game where I

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>just need to avoid, and I think I maybe just

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>need to avoid Dobins games. I don't know how you

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>feel if you've been able to properly analyze these games,

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>but at least with the Chargers lank fifteen and a

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>half at a high number, I'm just not willing to

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>go anywhere near this game.

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.439
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't agree more my issue with betting Miami, and again,

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the numbers and model busting. You

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>know you'll look every week and be like, Okay, well

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 2>you gotta bet Miami plus the points. You know. The

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>problem is is if you watch them play. There is

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 2>just there's no sense of urgency and no sense to

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>even want to be competitive. You know, a few of

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 2>their games they've ended up getting not so much backdoored late.

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 2>But I mean the Cowboys game they should have covered.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were driving at the end of the

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 2>first half to tie the game where they fumbled. And

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 2>again they just kind of make these these head scratching

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 2>plays on offense and defense consistently. I know it's only

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>been three weeks, but I don't understand how anybody can

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 2>truly back this team, at least until they show some

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 2>sense of wanting to actually win a game.

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again, the number to me favors the Dolphins

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>in terms of when I just look at it and

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I analyze it. I mean, the Dolphins are really terrible,

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>but they're not the type of team that can't score

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>at all. Again, they easily could have scored at the

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>end of the first half against the Cowboys, and even

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>so they probably still should have covered that spread even

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>without it until the very end. It's just something where

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just you can't look at it like a normal

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>football team and a normal football game because you just

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know what you're going to get from them whatsoever,

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>regardless of the number that's out there. So it's just

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 1>something for now, I'm avoiding them. If they could show

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>something any sort of urgency, any sort of you know,

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>spark with Rosen under center again for another game, and

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>he looked, you know, a little better than Fitzpatrick. But

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I might be able to start basically, you know, holding

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>my nose and finding the value in the Dolphins and

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>willing to place a wager. But for now, I'm not

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>going anywhere near it. So you're avoiding the total on

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers Bengals on Monday night, which is forty three

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and a half, and I am avoiding the Dolphins getting

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and a half from the Chargers. Now, real quick,

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:05.960
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0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>list our top player prop of the week. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you got.

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Jared Goff over two hundred and seventy six? I believe

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 2>it's two to seventy six and a half passing yards

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>versus Tampa. For me, for those that already know, I'm

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 2>a big Jared Golf home road splits guy. Can't touch

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 2>anything with this guy or the Rams on the road.

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>But when they're home and Jared Golf can hear Sean

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>McVay in his headset, they are extremely targetable. I mean

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 2>he specifically is extremely targetable. This is a defense that

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 2>just got completely slacked by Danny Dimes. Jared Goff's obviously

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>more talented. However, if this was on the road, I

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.760
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't feel as confident, But again, we have a secondary

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 2>definitely leaves a lot to be desired. They've had a

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 2>decent start defensive either there Wiese strange enough have been

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 2>on the offensive side. But in this spot, you'd have

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to assume the Rams are going to be able to

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 2>move the ball. The toll is pretty high. Again, the

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 2>only thing you question is if this somehow is out

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 2>of hand late and they're not throwing. But again, Jared

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.479
<v Speaker 2>Goff just finds his receivers a lot better at home.

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:24.760
<v Speaker 2>He's got McVeigh in the headset, a much more easier

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 2>to read. He finds his targets much better. He goes

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>through his progressions much easier at home. Again, this number,

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 2>for me, feels like a number that I typically would

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>see if he was on the road or something similar.

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 2>On the road. Feel like I'm getting about ten or

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:40.320
<v Speaker 2>fifteen yards in favor here, So give me over Jared

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Goff passing yards two seventy six and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like it. They have not looked great on offense,

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and GoF hasn't looked good, But as you pointed out,

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<v Speaker 1>he's much worse on the road at Carolina, at Cleveland,

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.479
<v Speaker 1>he didn't look particularly good. He wasn't great at home

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>against the Saints. But that's a pretty tough defense going

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>in Tampa Bay, as they showed you. I mean, I

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>was a little excited about Tampa Bay's defense when I

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>looked at them against the Panthers, because Todd Bowles look

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to be doing some work. They've got a few playmakers there.

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>But last week against you know, Daniel Jones, they were

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.320
<v Speaker 1>just totally exposed. So I do think that this is

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of a quote unquote get right game for the

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Rams offense, and I think most of it is going

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to start with Jared Golf, So I do like that

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 1>pick a lot for me. I'm going to go with

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Marlon Mack getting at least one hundred yards rushing at

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>plus one seventy one. Now, this comes down to a

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>few factors. We talked about the fact that t Y

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Hilton may miss this game. At the very least, he's

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:36.439
<v Speaker 1>probably going to be limited even if he does play,

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>so the pass catching options are a few. The Colts

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>have one of the best offensive lines in the league.

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Mac ran for one hundred and thirty two yards against

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Oakland last year when they played, and the Raiders, as

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned earlier, are pretty banged up at linebackers, so

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I see the Colts looking to exploit them that way.

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I think this is a game that the Colts try

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>to control from start to finish, and I think they're

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>going to lean on the run. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to mean upwards of twenty carries for Mac, maybe

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>closer to twenty five depending on how this game unfolds,

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and I see him getting to roughly, you know, a

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit over one hundred. I wouldn't go up to

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty five. That's way too much for me.

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 1>But at plus one seventy one, I'm willing to take

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:12.280
<v Speaker 1>it at those outs.

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I love the Rocks for that play from you. I mean, that's,

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty ballsy. And I say ballsy because projecting

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>run running backs to go over one hundred yards is

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>always always an interesting one or an interesting enigma for

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 2>that matter, regardless of who they're playing. Well, you bring

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 2>up so many good points on the matchup and the

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 2>opportunity there, especially at the dog price, for an awesome,

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 2>awesome payout if it hits, and you're right, if the

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>volume's there, the yardage is more than likely going to

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 2>be there with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really what it comes down to in the end.

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at plus one seventy one, it's something where

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<v Speaker 1>again with the injuries that they have Hilton, I honestly

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they rest Hilton here and I think they

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>get them ready for a big game at Kansas City

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the following week. But either way, I think realistically they

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>think they're going to be able to win this game.

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>And again there are a lot of injuries there with

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the linebackers for Oakland. I do see them leaning there

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>on their run game. So you're going to take Jared

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Goff over. I believe it was two hundred and seventy

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>six and a half yards passing, and I will go

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 1>with Marlon Mack with over one hundred rushing yards. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to do it for today's show. JJ thanks

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot for joining me. Remind everyone where they can

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