Speaker 1: West Coast is DJ Head.
Speaker 2: You can check me out live here at the bouleg
Speaker 2: kV podcast and everywhere that you get your cracker barrel.
Speaker 3: Yo, it's the bluele cav Podcast.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: We got a special guests in here.
Speaker 4: My guy, my brother, DJ Head West Coast. Welcome, sir,
Speaker 4: I'm back. He's back. Yes. First of all, congratulations, had
Speaker 4: I want to tell you to your face because I
Speaker 4: know I texted you and I told you on the phone,
Speaker 4: but I'm just super proud of you, dog. I love you,
Speaker 4: and it's not I just love the moment you're having
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Thank you, And you've, like this whole time, been pushing
Speaker 4: the same line. You've never like swayed in terms of
Speaker 4: like your integrity, and it's like you played the very
Speaker 4: like patient game. And it's glad to I'm just glad
Speaker 4: to see like everyone else recognizing like what you've been
Speaker 4: doing for LA for so long, and like obviously this
Speaker 4: moment with Kendrick and the pop hours, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, it was dope.
Speaker 3: Couldn't have been anybody doper out there.
Speaker 2: Shout out to a peace Lang, Shout out to the
Speaker 2: Free Lunch Agency.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the city and the homies too for
Speaker 2: really showing up and making an event of success. A
Speaker 2: lot of people had to put things aside and make sacrifices.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 4: It was dope. Yeah, and uh, you know for people
Speaker 4: who don't know obviously you, I mean you came out
Speaker 4: swinging just with everybody and their mom and I love
Speaker 4: how problem ended your set because like, like, what is like,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, the crowd fucking it was amazing.
Speaker 3: What was the process.
Speaker 4: Of putting the artists who came out during your set together?
Speaker 1: I wasn't. It wasn't. I can't take credit for that.
Speaker 1: That was pg Lang. So you didn't pick the artists, Nah,
Speaker 1: it was pg Lang.
Speaker 2: They came to me with, hey, here's what we're here's
Speaker 2: what because you gotta think this is like they don't
Speaker 2: do anything that's just loose leaf, right, You've never seen
Speaker 2: anything just random loose leaf.
Speaker 3: And everything's very purpose Yes.
Speaker 2: So they came to me and was like what. First
Speaker 2: of all, shout out to Tim Henshaw and the Free
Speaker 2: Lodgenon Agency. They were like Tim reached out and was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know dot want you to open the show. I
Speaker 2: was like, are you fucking serious? Like yeah, like that's
Speaker 2: how we're gonna kick the show off. You're going to
Speaker 2: be the first thing. And he wants sees on the
Speaker 2: show's fire.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, what's the play And they're like, well, they
Speaker 1: selected artists. Here are the artists that we're here. Here's
Speaker 1: the list that.
Speaker 2: We're thinking of, and we just want you to curate
Speaker 2: this in a way that makes sense from a DJ's perspective.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, bet.
Speaker 2: And two artists were added last minute, which was ol
Speaker 2: Osama and RJ And those are super last minute. But
Speaker 2: you know, I can't take credit for that, Like if
Speaker 2: it was up to me, I would it would be
Speaker 2: hell of people that was I mean, Vince Staples was going,
Speaker 2: Grido was going.
Speaker 1: Joe wasn't there, Like it was a bunch of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe Moses, I felt like, was the one that
Speaker 4: Joe and Grido in terms of like having records that
Speaker 4: you'd be like wanting to see the crowd like.
Speaker 2: So my plan was, again if everybody, if you were
Speaker 2: watching the st or you were there, I was there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But if you were watching the stream, you notice like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to going at four. And the thing about
Speaker 2: logistics is we couldn't even fit everybody that we that
Speaker 2: everybody that they picked, we couldn't even fit within the show.
Speaker 2: So I had to make executive decisions and shout out
Speaker 2: to Perico and Kaylin, like Pirico's his own artist, but
Speaker 2: he came out with I had him do keep right
Speaker 2: with it with Kaylin, and then I had a z
Speaker 2: Chik and Roochie do the song together. It's their biggest
Speaker 2: songs called Lighted Up, So I had them do a
Speaker 2: song together and I just kind of just made the call,
Speaker 2: like hey bro, Phoenix Flexen ended up being there.
Speaker 1: He was a rehearsal to.
Speaker 4: I was thinking that they were going to transition from
Speaker 4: Geeka Leak to a shoreline song no time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so you know, shout out to OJZ and
Speaker 2: Phoenix and Rory and the teen for like being understanding.
Speaker 2: But it was like you got to understand, this is
Speaker 2: not a concert that's contained in the forum.
Speaker 1: This is being streamed.
Speaker 3: It's a show in a production.
Speaker 2: It's a full TV show that requires logistics and timing,
Speaker 2: Like we had to time our sets out. Mustard had
Speaker 2: turn in his list of which songs he was going
Speaker 2: to play in the mix in between artists before artists,
Speaker 2: And so at four o'clock when I was supposed to start,
Speaker 2: we were running behind because for whatever reason, production was
Speaker 2: running behind. I couldn't even play the records I was
Speaker 2: gonna play as a DJ set before I brought Ramble.
Speaker 4: Out right, So you were supposed to hop on and
Speaker 4: just warm up the crowds as a DJ. I was
Speaker 4: d kind of like what Mustard did.
Speaker 2: Correct, I was gonna DJ, but we were half an
Speaker 2: hour already into the show. It's like, we gotta go,
Speaker 2: so again. I would like to have everybody on.
Speaker 4: The fucking show, Little Veda, you know, little little Vada.
Speaker 2: I wanted to have lived on it. I wanted to
Speaker 2: have like you, everyone who knows me knows what I'm wan.
Speaker 2: For sure, I would have everybody on the show. Sure,
Speaker 2: Logistically it just doesn't make sense. It doesn't we don't
Speaker 2: have time for that whatever. So I just may do
Speaker 2: it what I was given and I didn't need.
Speaker 4: I had to.
Speaker 2: I had to sacrifice my DJ set and it just
Speaker 2: is what it is, like. I didn't even I wrote
Speaker 2: a monologue. I wrote a monologue that I was gonna that.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, then I had after the monologue,
Speaker 2: I had a DJ set, and then I was gonna
Speaker 2: bring Ramble out. I just came out, said a little
Speaker 2: quick sun and brought Rumble out.
Speaker 4: And that was Rymble's first performance ever. Yeah, which is
Speaker 4: I mean shot to Rymble. Yeah, I mean shot the
Speaker 4: Sampizro kicking it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a big and you know what, And
Speaker 1: that was changed in rehearsal as.
Speaker 3: Well, the song he did or him opening.
Speaker 2: Him opening, I was gonna have so again we're DJ,
Speaker 2: so you understand. I was putting the set together. So
Speaker 2: the idea was, hey, there's three names on the marquee.
Speaker 2: It's you, Mustard Dot and as you're putting the set together,
Speaker 2: that's going to do a performance. You and Mustard have
Speaker 2: DJ sets, but live performances of the of the records.
Speaker 2: So I'm putting the set together like I'm DJing in
Speaker 2: the mix that way, and people are coming out as
Speaker 2: I'm playing the records.
Speaker 4: It felt like it was building up to like to me,
Speaker 4: like obviously like like what and RJ at towards the end,
Speaker 4: because like n og Z towards the end, it's like
Speaker 4: it just was very it made sense.
Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even like oh, this person's new or because
Speaker 2: I was my initial set and I have I ain't
Speaker 2: think I research this, but.
Speaker 1: My initial idea.
Speaker 2: I wasn't have Wally open mm because he was gonna
Speaker 2: come out and do a cappella and like how we
Speaker 2: did the set, I was gonna have Wyley the sense
Speaker 2: they come out and do all through the flow and
Speaker 2: it was gonna be a cappella just to set the
Speaker 2: tone and then the beat comes in and then I
Speaker 2: was gonna have like a roller coaster like Okay, we're
Speaker 2: familiar with this kind of unfamiliar and then go back up.
Speaker 2: Then then as we were going through it, it didn't feel
Speaker 2: right in rehearsal and shout out to PG Lane the
Speaker 2: homies over there, like they just let me make calls
Speaker 2: and I was like, nah, I'm gonna change the whole
Speaker 2: set around. Let me let me work on it whatever,
Speaker 2: and they let me. They let me do my thing.
Speaker 4: What was the how like you said that Zoe and
Speaker 4: RJ got added super late, was that like your call
Speaker 4: or their call or.
Speaker 2: It was just Don just got the call like hey
Speaker 2: we need to hey, we need we want to add RJ.
Speaker 1: Can you call them? I'm like, yeah, it was seven
Speaker 1: seven am the day up, oh ship.
Speaker 4: It was just like that.
Speaker 2: It just honestly just went hella fast. And I think
Speaker 2: for the most part, I think, you know, they did
Speaker 2: a good job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: For sure, it was great.
Speaker 4: And then do you know the background because I remember
Speaker 4: seeing like a paper of the set list for Mustard
Speaker 4: and Tyler wasn't on it.
Speaker 2: I didn't know Tyler was gonna be there because I
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't know Tyler was gonna be there until
Speaker 2: he was walking. He literally walked past me backstage, like
Speaker 2: we were in the hallway. I was right outside of
Speaker 2: a Kendrick's dressing room. So because I was waiting, Top
Speaker 2: had went in to go talk to him. I was
Speaker 2: waiting to go in and talk to him, and so
Speaker 2: Tyler walks in the door. We shake hands and he
Speaker 2: was like and even Sallast was like, that's Tyler the Creator.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know he was gonna be here, but
Speaker 2: it was that happening right in that spot where we
Speaker 2: were standing, Like Lebron walked by and then fucking I
Speaker 2: don't know whoever I'm like the Weekend Walking by Rick
Speaker 2: Ross was there and I'm like, yo, what are these
Speaker 2: people doing here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: They weren't.
Speaker 1: They're not on the set list, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like, not that I didn't see, I didn't see dot
Speaker 2: set list, but me and Mustard had to collaborate on
Speaker 2: our sets so we can overlap right right right. So
Speaker 2: I didn't know about none of that shit. I didn't
Speaker 2: even know Tyler was performing. I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was that was out of the whole night that.
Speaker 2: I'm just backstage and I heard they werena loose, that
Speaker 2: Tyler crowd.
Speaker 4: Pop was it was outside of Kendrick. I was just
Speaker 4: the Tyler coming out, and I don't think anyone expected
Speaker 4: any Nah.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that shit. I didn't even know what
Speaker 1: that was gonna do.
Speaker 4: I gotta ask you this. I was surprised that Lebron
Speaker 4: didn't make his way on stage, because it feels like
Speaker 4: the Lebron thing to do. Did he do you know
Speaker 4: if he tried to get on stage?
Speaker 1: Nah, he didn't. Okay, he was chilling where he was at.
Speaker 4: He was just chilling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because there was this little, this.
Speaker 2: Little area where we were all hanging out whatever, like
Speaker 2: side stage, and he was just over there with his
Speaker 2: I think with his family or something.
Speaker 1: Chilling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking about things being like super intentional and like,
Speaker 4: you know, there were people who were there who could
Speaker 4: have came out and did stuff, but they weren't from LA. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and everybody who came out performed. The only thing that
Speaker 4: was in LA that happened was E forty narrating the show.
Speaker 4: But you gotta have you gotta have you gotta have that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I mean that was per It's full right, Like
Speaker 4: nobody who touched that stage wasn't.
Speaker 2: I believe it was intentional. I never even asked about it, right,
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I didn't approach it like, yeah, this is
Speaker 2: my ship. Yeah, they gave me, Hey, this is what
Speaker 2: we need you to do. I just executed my job.
Speaker 2: I didn't question anybody. I didn't do anything. It was like,
Speaker 2: because it's not about me, right, And I think that
Speaker 2: a lot of people can attest to that. Even the
Speaker 2: way I was conducting the sessions, it was like, it's
Speaker 2: not about me, bro, it's not about you. It's about
Speaker 2: Dot and this, and we need to make this look dope. Collectively,
Speaker 2: so I didn't even approach it from like, oh, here's
Speaker 2: my input on this or this is what I think.
Speaker 1: I just was worried about getting the task done. I didn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy too, because like being there, like just
Speaker 4: from like a fancy I was. I actually watched the show.
Speaker 4: I mean obviously my son was there, but Letty was
Speaker 4: sitting next to me with Jorge, and uh it was
Speaker 4: it just felt like it felt like one of them
Speaker 4: moments they're like, man, I'm gonna remember the rest of
Speaker 4: my life. I was sitting right here.
Speaker 1: Fat me too.
Speaker 4: Like it when it kicked off, like when Kendrick came
Speaker 4: out doing Euphoria, which is my favorite song out of
Speaker 4: all the songs that have dropped throughout this whole thing,
Speaker 4: I lost my fucking mind. But like you standing there,
Speaker 4: did you kind of feel the like gravity of like this.
Speaker 1: You did well?
Speaker 4: By the way, you should have gotten a better position
Speaker 4: on that photo because you're getting cropped out on all
Speaker 4: here because you're right on the edge.
Speaker 1: I'm not tripping about that, you know how I am.
Speaker 4: Someone made a T shirt and like you could see
Speaker 4: half of you on there. I'm not sure, No, I
Speaker 4: know you're not I know you're not.
Speaker 2: But so before I went on stage, because we had
Speaker 2: our cues, we worked out our cues, and E forty
Speaker 2: starts playing, and I'm just standing there on st I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember some of my monologue, right, so
Speaker 2: you can get some shit off, So I can get
Speaker 2: some shit off, yeah, because other than I would have
Speaker 2: just read the whole thing and you know, did the
Speaker 2: whole teleprint or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: But I was trying to get my shit there.
Speaker 2: I was trying to remember certain things that I did
Speaker 2: want to make sure I said, and then at that point,
Speaker 2: you just going off feeling. So I just went up there,
Speaker 2: and at first I still behind the turntables, and I
Speaker 2: was just like, all right, let me just get right
Speaker 2: to it and not hold people up. Then I'm like, nah,
Speaker 2: let me, let me go ahead and take the moment
Speaker 2: and just you know, work the crowd or whatever and
Speaker 2: let people see me and try to try to absorb
Speaker 2: some of that energy. But I was, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, I wasn't thinking about it. If you think
Speaker 2: about it, you're gonna you will fucking psych yourself out.
Speaker 1: And start you'll lose your ship for sure.
Speaker 2: So I was even backstage when we were lining I
Speaker 2: was lining the homies up and telling her I couldn't
Speaker 2: because people were like.
Speaker 1: Yo, this is fucking crazy, this is history.
Speaker 2: Like you understand, I can't get in that because if
Speaker 2: I get into that then I'll fuck up miss a
Speaker 2: Cue or miss you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just got to play the game, in the
Speaker 4: game to do the work. Yeah it worked out, man,
Speaker 4: it was. It was wonderful. I got to ask you
Speaker 4: man like you. You also just launched the new radio
Speaker 4: show on Serious with Gina, effective.
Speaker 1: Immediately immediately three weeks in two weeks in third show
Speaker 1: just haired.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how's that been?
Speaker 4: Life changing? Like it's like, you know, obviously, Gina has
Speaker 4: been doing her thing, putting in work for years behind
Speaker 4: the scenes, in front of the camera, whole fashions, et cetera,
Speaker 4: all the way back to when she was doing stuff
Speaker 4: with Adam. So what was it like, give me the
Speaker 4: background of like when the idea started with her to
Speaker 4: do this show?
Speaker 2: So me, So honestly, we've been working with Gina with
Speaker 2: four years now something like that for something like that,
Speaker 2: and she's been on our team and you know, like
Speaker 2: I mentor her and try to make sure like everything's straight.
Speaker 2: But then one day we when I left iHeart and
Speaker 2: she ended up leaving No Jumper.
Speaker 1: We both had an idea. What we were trying to figure.
Speaker 2: Out, like what the idea for the show is, Like,
Speaker 2: what's the idea for the show, what's the premise of it.
Speaker 2: So we were trying to come up with names and
Speaker 2: ideas and we were shooting back and forth it and
Speaker 2: we were on the phone with Salace one day and
Speaker 2: I said, and I forgot if she said it or
Speaker 2: I said, it was like, yeah, we want to feel
Speaker 2: something like when you get terminated, it's like something effective immediately,
Speaker 2: And Sialace just goes like, wait, what would you say,
Speaker 2: Like something like, because we're trying to play on the
Speaker 2: fact of our employment status, when you get them letters right,
Speaker 2: effective immediately you are no longer with the company, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah.
Speaker 1: And so so I was like, what would you say.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, something like that, and he.
Speaker 2: Was like, that's it, effective media, It's like effective immediately,
Speaker 2: that's it. I'm like yeah, And then we just kind
Speaker 2: of ran from it. And then I went shout out
Speaker 2: to j One and you know, Ron Mills and Sway
Speaker 2: Sway really because I called Sway like fourth quarter last
Speaker 2: year and I was like, Yo, I want to do
Speaker 2: the syndicated thing, blah blah blah. He put the he
Speaker 2: put me in touch with the higher ups over there,
Speaker 2: and they ended up giving me what I wanted, Like
Speaker 2: we did a non exclusive deal. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: syndicate not only not only on serious but on terrestrial
Speaker 2: FM radio. That's got some announcements coming out in the
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. So yeah, that really is how
Speaker 2: it started. But where I'll see it.
Speaker 1: Going is bigger than radio or podcasts because obviously you
Speaker 1: and Chuck started together doing homegrown radio.
Speaker 4: So ye with the new show, where does that leave
Speaker 4: the homegrown radio?
Speaker 2: So homegrown homegrown, We're still doing our thing. I look
Speaker 2: at Homegrown more like the rap radar shit okay, like
Speaker 2: when beat Out and Elliott was doing ay thing, so
Speaker 2: that'll be more sophisticated. We actually are, we actually are
Speaker 2: doing We have one rhapsody dropping soon.
Speaker 5: Some more like the long form Yeah, effective effective immediately
Speaker 5: is like the radio show daily talk, topics, news, fun whatever,
Speaker 5: also celebrity interviews, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But the homegrown pod is more like long form deeper conversations.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, like, that's the one thing
Speaker 4: about radio nowadays is just like, I mean, shit, man,
Speaker 4: where do you feel. I mean, look, you've been out
Speaker 4: of radio what two years? How do you feel going
Speaker 4: back into it? Yeah, because obviously, you know, I don't
Speaker 4: want to get in the background of why things didn't
Speaker 4: work out at iHeart for you. But it was an
Speaker 4: interesting situation in which I remember we went.
Speaker 3: To a concert that was sponsored by Amazon Music.
Speaker 1: Once it's Kendrick Lamar, it was, it was Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 4: It was yeah, and there was Amazon Music.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, an iHeart sweet. Yeah, We're like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 4: But with that being said, getting back into it, because
Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day, like radio
Speaker 4: is not what it used to be. But it's also
Speaker 4: if you do it, if you do it right, if
Speaker 4: you know what you're doing, if you you know, aren't
Speaker 4: just mailing it in, Like a lot of these personalities
Speaker 4: are across the country, there is a place for it
Speaker 4: to still matter.
Speaker 3: It does matter, Yeah, No, for sure.
Speaker 2: I think it's another place where I mean, I think
Speaker 2: all free medium is going to be around forever. TV radio,
Speaker 2: same shit free It's all going to exist because it's
Speaker 2: a free medium and people don't have to pay for
Speaker 2: to consume it. But I think what radio is going
Speaker 2: is bigger shows, less personalities. I don't necessarily see like
Speaker 2: a lot of smaller shows existing anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't think that people.
Speaker 2: Like people still care about having a compersonal connection to
Speaker 2: the station and the radio.
Speaker 1: They don't care about live and local. They just want
Speaker 1: they just want good content.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they want to hear their Honestly, they want
Speaker 4: to hear their favorite song in the morning.
Speaker 1: That's all they care about.
Speaker 2: Like, because even when you talk about like hip hop
Speaker 2: in the sense that people like, oh we want that
Speaker 2: pewre shit, people don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: They want jammin as songs.
Speaker 4: Yeah. They just want to hear what they want to hear.
Speaker 4: That's it. It is what it is like. That's why
Speaker 4: there's research and call out and all that shit. Like
Speaker 4: you know, And I think two people got to understand that,
Speaker 4: like the what we call p ones in radio, which
Speaker 4: are like the die hard show up to the remote.
Speaker 4: Back in the day you'd have a bumper sticker on
Speaker 4: your car. Those people who are like p ones, they
Speaker 4: are not like at the end of the day. Those
Speaker 4: are for the most part, you want to have, not
Speaker 4: to get into the fucking geekiness radio talk, but you
Speaker 4: want a p one to try to get a meter. Right.
Speaker 4: If you're a radio station and a pe one of
Speaker 4: yours gets a meter, which is how they get ratings
Speaker 4: they're calculating them through PPM, then you're lit because they're
Speaker 4: gonna listen all fucking day. But usually those people who
Speaker 4: carry the meters, who determine the ratings, or who are
Speaker 4: p ones, they're not. They don't care about the double
Speaker 4: XL Freshman cover that just drops. No, they don't care.
Speaker 2: About like they don't care that, they don't care that
Speaker 2: Vince Staples wasn't on stage at the pop up.
Speaker 4: Nah, They're just like excited for the Kendrick moment and
Speaker 4: and Drake and and and and That's what's It's almost
Speaker 4: like this Kendrick and Drake thing pushed about this is
Speaker 4: about as good as it's gonna get in terms of
Speaker 4: real hip hop and bars and like, you know, the
Speaker 4: art form being like so commercially like working, like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like these records are like Euphouria
Speaker 4: is a six minute record getting played in power rotation
Speaker 4: and it's not really a hook on it.
Speaker 3: There's not a hook anyway.
Speaker 4: Repeat, But I hate the way that you yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean that's I mean, but still but it's like like
Speaker 4: that's where we.
Speaker 1: All tried, yeah, saying like that's there, you know, there's
Speaker 1: a little something for you.
Speaker 4: But it's it's just you know, I think people got
Speaker 4: to understand that, Like when we do radio, it's different
Speaker 4: than when we do the YouTube stuff or when you
Speaker 4: do homegrown radio or when you do your shit, because
Speaker 4: it's like, bro, the radio shit is it's it's it's
Speaker 4: I don't want to use microL wave, but it kind
Speaker 4: of is like it's surface level listening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just background that people put it on at work.
Speaker 4: And the people who are like die hard into the
Speaker 4: station for the most part, they're usually like mid thirties,
Speaker 4: like early forties, and they love their station that they
Speaker 4: grew up listening to and they don't understand how to
Speaker 4: get they don't want to get Spotify because you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, so I think it's just a
Speaker 4: it's a different thing. Like when we do our radio show,
Speaker 4: me and James, it's like it's way different. The ship
Speaker 4: we run through the filter, like should we talk about this? Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know if they don't care about the you know,
Speaker 4: a thirty four year old females working two jobs and
Speaker 4: got four kids gives a fuck.
Speaker 2: About it, cares about that stuff. So it's hard. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not hard as long as you know what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Pick good content, pick good spots. You made good radio on.
Speaker 4: What do you think about the Freshman cover that just dropped?
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 4: It said not like us with absolutely zero LA artists.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the biggest commercial because I've tried to
Speaker 4: see it through the I'm running a New York magazine
Speaker 4: because that's what I look at Double ex cell As,
Speaker 4: it's Vanessa and them are all in New York. Right
Speaker 4: to me, the biggest snub would have been three with
Speaker 4: old Baby in LA.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: See the thing is, and I don't care necessarily about
Speaker 2: the frist. I stop caring about a lot of that shit. Right,
Speaker 2: here's a barometer on what DJ head cares about. If
Speaker 2: you see DJ Head involved in it, then he cares.
Speaker 2: We got snubbed in Grammys over and over again. I
Speaker 2: want to join the Grammy Board. My people in the community.
Speaker 2: I want to join the Boys and Girls Club. I
Speaker 2: joined radio station because I care about radio, like our YouTube,
Speaker 2: podcast and content. I care about those things. If you
Speaker 2: don't see me involved in it, I really don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck. And the thing is the double XL Freshman
Speaker 2: cover is just an example of institutions not being cold
Speaker 2: truly tapped in, which that's not far that's not a
Speaker 2: far fetched idea. Most of these platforms and companies are
Speaker 2: not tapped in. They're not, I want to say, tapped in.
Speaker 2: They're not culturally aware of certain things and moments that
Speaker 2: actually matter.
Speaker 1: To the culture.
Speaker 2: If it's supposed to gauge cultural impact and so like
Speaker 2: when you have a three one oh baby who probably
Speaker 2: should have who did probably belong on the cover for sure,
Speaker 2: right then you take something like not like us and
Speaker 2: you put that and you make that the subheading for it.
Speaker 3: Not like us meant not like us in LA.
Speaker 1: Or to me, there's people in New York who just like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's use this, Yeah, this is a hot this is cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they don't understand the cultural relevance or impact
Speaker 2: of what this thing is. And that has been my
Speaker 2: problem throughout the last two three months that everything's been
Speaker 2: going down, is you have to be culturally aware so
Speaker 2: you don't culturally play yourself. And that's that was my
Speaker 2: thing with the whole battle back and forth, for even
Speaker 2: with the Doubles, like a lot of things have cultural
Speaker 2: nuance that people don't understand, and if you don't understand that, you.
Speaker 1: Should just be like, hey, I don't get this, I
Speaker 1: don't get it. Hey, you know what I mean? I
Speaker 1: remember you during was it twenty twenty twenty twenty when
Speaker 1: everything was going down with George Floyd? You would call me,
Speaker 1: you would call Sautas, Hey, bro, I want to do
Speaker 1: something like how can I help? Like what I got to?
Speaker 1: What can I do?
Speaker 2: Those things matter because now it's like, Okay, if I
Speaker 2: don't know, let me tap a motherfucker in who knows?
Speaker 1: How can I be of service? How can I help this?
Speaker 2: This cover shows to me same thing everything else been
Speaker 2: showing me. Whether it's or shows, whether it's whatever, it's
Speaker 2: just you don't have people in the room who are
Speaker 2: either one confident boisterous enough, or who don't even have
Speaker 2: the platform to speak up and say, hey, we probably
Speaker 2: shouldn't do that, you know, I mean, you know what
Speaker 2: we shouldn't do.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: A half white, half black person and make reference to
Speaker 2: somebody who's culturally black and culturally potent, rich in culture, and.
Speaker 1: May say, hey, you're rapping like slaves. Who's in the
Speaker 1: room for that? Yeah, So I look at all those things.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's not it's not to slight
Speaker 1: anybody or to diss anybody. It's just no one's in
Speaker 1: the room and has the authority or the player or
Speaker 1: the nuts to snu because sometimes people don't want input
Speaker 1: and so it doesn't then have to be nuts. It
Speaker 1: could be you don't empower this person enough to challenge
Speaker 1: you on this, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny. That's one of the things I tweeted.
Speaker 4: I was like, imagine getting discs for having your music
Speaker 4: having substance.
Speaker 3: Like what what are we doing? Like, No, that's real.
Speaker 4: I just thought, you know, it's funny because I posted
Speaker 4: the cover and I didn't even read it, not like
Speaker 4: us part I just put I didn't even see that.
Speaker 4: So no, I just posted it because you know, I
Speaker 4: got you know, OT's my boy and I'm happy for him. Man,
Speaker 4: big ext the plug and skill of baby like Dude
Speaker 4: there's the guys on there that really deserve to be
Speaker 4: on there, But like I was just like, there's nobody
Speaker 4: from LA, like the two names that you know. It
Speaker 4: was three one oh and zero and it was like,
Speaker 4: I know for a fact, I looked up on Spotify
Speaker 4: just to see monthly listeners and I was like I always
Speaker 4: got more monthly listeners and like half this cover, Like.
Speaker 2: Hey bro, my thing is again I always say this,
Speaker 2: and actually, you know, I'm not even gonna say that.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not gonna rehash that point. I'll say this,
Speaker 2: what we heard is niggas don't like the West Coast,
Speaker 2: and then that's why with it, I'll push the line
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 3: That's yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know what, dude, It's crazy because
Speaker 4: I always me and you would always have these conversations
Speaker 4: about like the bias that's in the industry.
Speaker 1: Which is why I'm over overtently biased, right.
Speaker 4: But it's funny because I used to always just be like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, like you might be wrong. But
Speaker 4: when I see like the way these guys just hate
Speaker 4: what's happening right now for no good reason other than
Speaker 4: the kids from LA, it feels like at least like
Speaker 4: the mall thing is super strange to me. Me like, just
Speaker 4: like it's just You're like, it's true. Motherfuckers really just
Speaker 4: don't fuck with La.
Speaker 1: And it's not even in LA. They don't fuck with
Speaker 1: the Bay either, the whole West coast. They don't fuck
Speaker 1: with Seattle. They don't fuck with like Arizona, they don't
Speaker 1: fuck with Nevada nothing. It's they don't fuck with Albuquerque.
Speaker 2: I know a fire ass artist from Albuquerque, don't I
Speaker 2: don't I know his song, I don't know his name,
Speaker 2: but he's fired from Albuquerque.
Speaker 4: New Mexico's crazy.
Speaker 2: The thing is, Bro, they just don't fuck with us,
Speaker 2: and that's okay, but at least say I don't fuck
Speaker 2: with you. That's why I respect people who are overtly racist,
Speaker 2: right because it's like.
Speaker 3: Hey, at least I know where I stand with you.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: Don't be secretly racist.
Speaker 1: Don't be secretly racist, because that's Joe check.
Speaker 3: That's where systematic racism kicks it.
Speaker 2: That's where That's why I was That's why I was
Speaker 2: challenging during the during the back and forth, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: don't secretly why don't secretly give bootleg k of the record,
Speaker 2: and the record doesn't exist nowhere else.
Speaker 4: Put the record out right, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Like, let's let me let the
Speaker 1: world know how you feel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, plant your flag officially. Yeah, it's definitely interesting. When
Speaker 4: when because I know you and I were talking a
Speaker 4: bit about during the I talked to you the Friday
Speaker 4: night that it was probably my favorite night as a
Speaker 4: hip hop fan of my entire life, and that.
Speaker 1: Was that's because you're messy.
Speaker 4: I woke up in the morning and the Compton record
Speaker 4: had dropped, which was the final Hey man, are you sure?
Speaker 4: Are you sure? Later on that night, I'm driving to
Speaker 4: Arizona with my sister and my kid in the back seat,
Speaker 4: and then The Family Matters comes out, and I remember
Speaker 4: I listened to it and I think I called you
Speaker 4: before meet the Grahams came out, and I was like, Oh.
Speaker 3: He ain't got ship.
Speaker 4: He's just making shit up, Like because anybody who knows
Speaker 4: Dave and Kendrick and their dynamic, You're like, oh, you're
Speaker 4: really just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks.
Speaker 4: And then like twenty minutes later, no, fifteen minutes, I'm
Speaker 4: refreshing my shit. What the fuck? When I first heard
Speaker 4: Meat the Grams Dog, I was screaming. I was like,
Speaker 4: I couldn't even believe it.
Speaker 1: It was like.
Speaker 3: And like it.
Speaker 4: It could have ended right there with no Not Like Us,
Speaker 4: and it would have just been like you suck the
Speaker 4: life out of this dude, man. But then was it Saturday.
Speaker 4: The next day Not Like Us comes out and it's
Speaker 4: a hit record, and I'm just like, I just broke
Speaker 4: because you know, I've been sending tweets because you know,
Speaker 4: I'm very I've been extremely.
Speaker 3: Critical with Drake for years.
Speaker 4: I'm a big push of Tea guy, huge Kendrick guy,
Speaker 4: and so I remember I've been I've been I've been
Speaker 4: tweeting like this, ain't this, ain't this, ain't what like
Speaker 4: After like that came out, This ain't this, ain't this,
Speaker 4: ain't meet me. I kept tweeting, Hey, I was tweeting
Speaker 4: shit without knowing anything. I was just tweeting boogeyman loading
Speaker 4: like just ship. I was just because I know, like
Speaker 4: this shit is different, and so when not Like That
Speaker 4: came out, I just felt like everybody could suck my dick, man,
Speaker 4: I told y'all. And by the way, man, all you
Speaker 4: fucking Drake beehive, weirdo ass bodass accounts. I did not
Speaker 4: know that there were grown men whose whole entire life
Speaker 4: revolved around leaving comments on Twitter. You fucking in sell fucks,
Speaker 4: stop playing Fortnite and beating your dick to fucking the
Speaker 4: motto the model is a fire record, great record. Shout
Speaker 4: out to might be the most culturally tapped in song
Speaker 4: he's ever done.
Speaker 1: That's not true, shout out to the bay culturally tapped in.
Speaker 4: And he went to the bay and mac Dre's mom
Speaker 4: in the video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, you mean, like from all okaygo what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3: Anyway, but I didn't know.
Speaker 4: But but I'm sure you've been dealing with these same comments.
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I've been taking screenshots. I make a scrap
Speaker 2: book out of all of my slamers.
Speaker 4: Oh it's so crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm be getting slander for what two months too, And.
Speaker 4: I had everybody say I'm glazing.
Speaker 1: I just learned that one. Throughout the battle glazing.
Speaker 3: I pinned.
Speaker 4: I always pinned the most disrespectful ones. You pin them
Speaker 4: for a retweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just learned glazing. Like in the last two months.
Speaker 2: That was a good one. I didn't know what the
Speaker 2: fuck they were saying.
Speaker 3: Initially, apparently I'm Jay Glazer Maine.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm DJ Gibbshead, who glazes.
Speaker 3: Anyway. The whole time, I'm just you know, ship.
Speaker 2: The thing is, you know, it's funny about when you
Speaker 2: were dry. I think I remember when you called me.
Speaker 2: But beyond that, family matters drops. The video is out.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, like, okay, he shouted, he spends
Speaker 2: some money.
Speaker 4: Ain't even the right type of van, fuck it.
Speaker 2: Whatever his symbolism cool whatever, you know, I don't expect
Speaker 2: him to understand, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Maybe you couldn't get the van in time. Who knows. Maybe.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yo, I'm watching it. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: he went to the restaurant. That's such a Drake thing
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: Then I'm looking at it and he sends the stuff
Speaker 2: about the Hoummies.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, he got nothing, nothing like that's crazy.
Speaker 4: The most memorable line that Drake said throughout this whole
Speaker 4: thing was about metro booming, shut your ass up and
Speaker 4: make some.
Speaker 2: Drums, And I'm just like wow. Then I thought it
Speaker 2: was a miss because.
Speaker 1: Well, again, you wouldn't know this if you're not up,
Speaker 1: if you're not culturally of that. But when someone directly
Speaker 1: is pressing your line, you dressed that person, not everybody
Speaker 1: who has said event. So I think you you segregated
Speaker 1: your attention span and now you've left yourself vulnerable.
Speaker 4: It was two records in a row that he addressed
Speaker 4: everybody and not just Kennon, and again not having people
Speaker 4: in the room who like, hey, you know what, that's
Speaker 4: not no, no, no, that's not the p It's funny because
Speaker 4: when he put out the last record that was like
Speaker 4: the White Flag, I called you again right away and
Speaker 4: you were like, it's over, it's over. I talked to Kendrick,
Speaker 4: it's over. But it's funny because I thought, well, at
Speaker 4: least he addressed him directly for a whole song, because
Speaker 4: he didn't do that prior to that, because it's like,
Speaker 4: what again, It's like, we know he's short, we know
Speaker 4: like he's a short guy, and he cares about his people,
Speaker 4: and uh, he wears a certain size.
Speaker 1: Shoe, and well, you know what's funny is when the initial.
Speaker 2: Again, I want to I want to shout out to
Speaker 2: Doc and Dave and and too because you know, it
Speaker 2: was a lot of shit going on, and you know,
Speaker 2: they empowered me. But at the same time it was
Speaker 2: still like I wasn't speaking for them.
Speaker 1: I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't fully aware of everything that was going on
Speaker 2: until like later on. But when the push Ups this
Speaker 2: shit came out. Somebody told me that.
Speaker 1: He called the record push Ups because of what I said,
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't have a title. I remember, it was
Speaker 1: just a record.
Speaker 2: It it was just a song that Academics was playing
Speaker 2: the record or whatever, and he didn't put it out.
Speaker 2: It was just Academics was the only one in the world.
Speaker 4: With the record, and he the first version was like
Speaker 4: it was like a leak or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, cool.
Speaker 2: So I said what I said, like, you know about
Speaker 2: you posting pictures whatever, and then your push Ups record.
Speaker 2: And then somebody was like yo, you know, like oh,
Speaker 2: the next day I found out when when it would
Speaker 2: actually get put up.
Speaker 1: Somebody called me.
Speaker 2: No need to say all of that, but someone called
Speaker 2: me and said, yeah, you must have really said I
Speaker 2: pushed his button because he's putting the record out.
Speaker 1: I said, when he said thirty minutes, said say.
Speaker 4: Look because you said it's not on DSPs. It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It claimed it, it wasn't on it. SoundCloud, it wasn't
Speaker 2: anywhere was the only person with the record. So I
Speaker 2: went on Twitter and I was like, Yo, the boy's
Speaker 2: putting the record out.
Speaker 1: It'd be up in thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: It was up thirty minutes later, push ups, and so
Speaker 2: I think that's when people were like, oh shit, you know,
Speaker 2: let me see like he knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 3: And then you called the Camia Cabello.
Speaker 1: Thing shot that records, that record's coming out, but you
Speaker 1: called that The thing is bro And this is I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this, because.
Speaker 4: What did you say about it? You pretty much said,
Speaker 4: don't hold up that young lady's record.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: I had information about him holding up a record for
Speaker 2: Camilla Cabello, and I was like, yo, but the thing
Speaker 2: is it wasn't really I wasn't using Camilla as a
Speaker 2: pawn for Cloud or for anything like that. It was
Speaker 2: more like, bro, just because I'm running a fade with you,
Speaker 2: don't hold this girl career up.
Speaker 4: She needs this record. Let her get a record off.
Speaker 4: To be fair, though, if you're Drake and you just
Speaker 4: found Kendrick for doing songs with Maroon five and Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4: And in the middle of that conflict, you drop a
Speaker 4: Camia Cabello feature.
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, what do we talk?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: So in that same breath, by the way, he also
Speaker 1: danced to the Tailor Show. So in that same breath,
Speaker 1: why are you doing shit you're not proud of?
Speaker 4: You're right? Why even do it? Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do whatever I do. If I fuck
Speaker 2: up or whatever, I'm gonna own it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Hey, I fucked up. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Whatever, just cool.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the record is fuck up, but
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, don't punish somebody else for some shit
Speaker 2: you got going on, like you got sometimes you gotta
Speaker 2: follo on your sword, right, Just let her put the
Speaker 2: record out, bro, like you shoot the video, go do.
Speaker 1: Let her do her outside of this shit. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't just her.
Speaker 2: The whole industry kind of shut down for like two weeks,
Speaker 2: like nobody's dropping nothing. Everybody get the fuck out the way.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what's gonna happen. And then you know,
Speaker 2: Dot took his time and cooked his food.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's interesting too because the double standard that was
Speaker 4: being held between to like that verse being released and
Speaker 4: how long it took Drake to put anything out compared
Speaker 4: to when push ups dropped and then the Euphoria release gap.
Speaker 4: It was like people were all of a sudden extremely
Speaker 4: forgetful that it took Drake like a month to reply
Speaker 4: to the like.
Speaker 2: That, but then fuck the month. He's been getting poked forever.
Speaker 2: They've been doing that ship forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for years.
Speaker 4: All the stuff, Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that shit don't matter, bro. The thing is salute
Speaker 2: to him. Like I said, I've been saying this for
Speaker 2: the whole what two and a half months, three months?
Speaker 2: Just make your songs, right, Make your songs, bro, We're
Speaker 2: gonna play them. You're gonna play them. I'm gonna play them.
Speaker 2: We're gonna play the records he makes hits. Make your bobs,
Speaker 2: But don't play the culture game. You're gonna lose if
Speaker 2: you play the culture game. That's like, and one thing
Speaker 2: I will say this about I can say this about you. Actually,
Speaker 2: you're probably the only one that I know that out
Speaker 2: of the people that I'm thinking of in my head
Speaker 2: from people that like that are white, who who exists
Speaker 2: in the space. You can't play the culture game with
Speaker 2: somebody like me. You're gonna lose, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Because you don't you're not culturally potent in that way.
Speaker 2: And so all I've been saying to him is, bro,
Speaker 2: make your do your ship, do you do your records,
Speaker 2: cav do your podcast, but don't play the culture game
Speaker 2: because you're gonna get You're gonna get eviscerated. And it's
Speaker 2: not even gonna be it's not even gonna be fair.
Speaker 2: It's not even a fair fight. And then that's also
Speaker 2: why it was like all right, all right, he's got enough,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like fuck it, you know,
Speaker 2: we got the number one record in the world, Like.
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting. Like also the like bringing
Speaker 4: like saying Hyg's name on a record. It's like YG
Speaker 4: was at the pop out on stage and what looks
Speaker 4: to be in the music video.
Speaker 1: I don't have a comment on that, but.
Speaker 4: Have you heard that there's this this West Coast remix coming?
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about nothing.
Speaker 3: Nice do you feel like?
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this head, because obviously you've been
Speaker 4: pushing the West Coast line so hard for so many years, right,
Speaker 4: how does the West not how do they make sure
Speaker 4: to properly take advantage of this current moment, because to me,
Speaker 4: it feels like the chance to take it back to
Speaker 4: ninety three, ninety four and like take the crown. Atlanta's
Speaker 4: had it for so long.
Speaker 2: Hit records shit, at the end of the day, the
Speaker 2: day go in shout out the glowrilla. We we just
Speaker 2: need records, and we have to go in with a
Speaker 2: consorted effort to create undeniable records.
Speaker 1: I think everybody goes in.
Speaker 2: It's not everybody, but a lot of people, not even
Speaker 2: just in LA but in hip hop.
Speaker 4: A lot of people go in to booth and just.
Speaker 3: Fuck around, punch in, punch out.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 2: I like that, and it's like, bro, no, that's not
Speaker 2: how the magic is made. Sometimes you can get away
Speaker 2: with that, but more more times than not, it's a
Speaker 2: collaborative effort. There's thought behind it, there's deep meaning. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of intention that goes into these hit records.
Speaker 2: And what good is the spotlight if you if you
Speaker 2: don't have nothing for it? And so I think right now,
Speaker 2: the initiative for everybody that I've been pushing, I've been
Speaker 2: on the phone for two weeks non stop all day.
Speaker 1: Put records out, hit records, hit records, work together, bring
Speaker 1: somebody in the studio. Who's gonna who's gonna contest.
Speaker 4: You, work out, maybe work outside of your comfort circle.
Speaker 1: Bro. All of that shit matters.
Speaker 2: And it's not just for La It's for the Bay,
Speaker 2: it's for Sacramento.
Speaker 1: It's fun, it's for San Diego, everybody.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 2: I think, I think also to what I noticed, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of camaraderie. I just connected two of
Speaker 2: the homies today who hadn't worked together, Like, Hey, hook
Speaker 2: me up with so and so. Put them on both
Speaker 2: on FaceTime. A boom, all right, yea, I'm finish sing
Speaker 2: you something fin to send you someth let's jump on
Speaker 2: this whatever.
Speaker 1: So that's coming.
Speaker 2: And then you got you know why, Jesus announced just
Speaker 2: read up three is dropping. Mustard just announced his album
Speaker 2: You Got the Song with Travis Scott. Roddy has got
Speaker 2: a smash in the tuck. It's a lot of ship
Speaker 2: that's about to happen.
Speaker 4: Tie.
Speaker 2: I gotta have sould making making some he made, I
Speaker 2: gotta have sold making slaps.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, so I think, like.
Speaker 4: You said, like those guys you just mentioned, they gotta
Speaker 4: like now they gotta deliver. And then it's like the
Speaker 4: cream rises to the top, right, and then Kaylen can deliver,
Speaker 4: and then Zoe can deliver.
Speaker 2: And I just talked to Kaitlyn today and it was
Speaker 2: the same type of thing. And it's just like I
Speaker 2: got I've been talking the problem Jason Martin.
Speaker 4: Blast you know, Black Blast Ship's coming about about.
Speaker 1: You know, getting in with these younger dudes and helping
Speaker 1: them with their records.
Speaker 2: Because like, if we're being honest, like Jason Martin is
Speaker 2: one of the best to do it that's ever come
Speaker 2: out of out of this section from a song, from
Speaker 2: a song crafting perspective, he's one of the best. And
Speaker 2: so I need him to fuck with these dudes, and
Speaker 2: I need these dudes to listen to him.
Speaker 1: It's just what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like like I think that at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, like understanding the moment too is important,
Speaker 4: Like you got to understand so that way, you know,
Speaker 4: like I can't just go to the studio and just
Speaker 4: do what I've been.
Speaker 1: Doing, No, and you can't.
Speaker 2: Your business has to be right, right, the homies can't
Speaker 2: be be your publisher, Like, what do you what does
Speaker 2: he know about publish?
Speaker 4: Shout out to three one Old Baby two, who obviously
Speaker 4: has had a smash record before this, and uh, the
Speaker 4: new record.
Speaker 2: Is yeah, But I'm just saying, like, yo, get your
Speaker 2: business together and if you don't call me right, I
Speaker 2: can help you with that.
Speaker 4: What do you think about There was some icon that
Speaker 4: said that he thought there was a lack of Mexican
Speaker 4: representation on stage. I like to who icon la Icon?
Speaker 4: He's a podcast podcaster. But I also like to point
Speaker 4: out Coyote. Shout to the boys from Coyote. They they said,
Speaker 4: I love Coyote.
Speaker 2: Their fucking Coyote is literally I think Kyrie's my favorite
Speaker 2: Latin artists.
Speaker 4: They're killing it. But they had said that the one
Speaker 4: person who actually deserved to be up there was up there.
Speaker 1: Oh geez, he got hits, They got the records man
Speaker 1: so much respect.
Speaker 2: Like to be honest, like, I don't even know if
Speaker 2: there's anybody on the Latin side that I respect more
Speaker 2: than Coyote from a skills standpoint and also from a
Speaker 2: mentality standpoint.
Speaker 4: They want to earn everything. They want to earn it
Speaker 4: all and they're doing everything the right.
Speaker 3: Way, and I just I just respect them dudes.
Speaker 2: They bet on themselves, like it's to me, those dudes
Speaker 2: are the epitome of what people should be looking at
Speaker 2: if you're.
Speaker 4: Gonna do it yourself.
Speaker 2: I agree and so but yeah to what they said,
Speaker 2: I don't care about that like that. To me, it's
Speaker 2: just a lot of people speaking out of ignorance and
Speaker 2: don't and don't understand. I mean, and the meaning behind
Speaker 2: that is misconstrued. But whatever. To me, I don't get
Speaker 2: I'm no longer. I'm fucking forty now, I don't. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna argue with nobody on the internet. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna fight nobody. Hey, if you want to fight me,
Speaker 2: you got it, you won you mean say it on camera?
Speaker 2: You wan like, I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about it. I paid way
Speaker 2: too much money in taxes, so I'm just like, I
Speaker 2: don't got time for that ship. I mean, So I'm
Speaker 2: not finna be arguing with people about nothing. Whatever it is,
Speaker 2: you right, you want, and if you want to have
Speaker 2: a conversation, we have a conversation.
Speaker 1: I'll offer some authenticity to you. But I'm not about
Speaker 1: to go around the.
Speaker 2: World trying to correct everybody on their miss their misconceptions
Speaker 2: of what it is.
Speaker 4: I just had another thought on my head. We need
Speaker 4: a OT Genesis smash right now. We need one. We
Speaker 4: need one right now. Where's ot at man?
Speaker 1: Ot is on tour.
Speaker 4: You gotta put that tequila down.
Speaker 2: Ot Ot is on the road too. I think he
Speaker 2: I don't know where he was going to.
Speaker 4: That was. You know what's funny is until like write
Speaker 4: this moment, I was like, oh shit, ot should have
Speaker 4: came out.
Speaker 2: I thought about that too, but it's like, you can't
Speaker 2: get it because I remember people like man Long Beach.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, if you have four hours and that's
Speaker 2: gonna eat up a good hour and a half.
Speaker 4: Of that Snoop was on tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got two and a half hours from
Speaker 2: start to finish to curate and how do you You
Speaker 2: can't do that.
Speaker 3: It's just there's just not enough time.
Speaker 1: It's logistically impossible.
Speaker 2: Plus changeover plus and a lot of people don't understand
Speaker 2: how shows work. You have to do changeover, you have
Speaker 2: to do line switching, like they can't just oh, you
Speaker 2: have to close your laptop and bring the next djil
Speaker 2: It don't work like that. And so anyway, long story short,
Speaker 2: we need ol T record. I know Joe's Joe just
Speaker 2: dropped or he is dropping like it's some ship coming.
Speaker 2: I want to be honest. I'm waiting for a new
Speaker 2: Plow record.
Speaker 3: Him and a cool gen are about to drop movie too.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on a new Plow record. Bro.
Speaker 2: I need Plow to come in and produce a lot
Speaker 2: of these records for these dudes.
Speaker 4: They need some beats.
Speaker 1: I need Plow to come in produce.
Speaker 2: And I want to see I want to see some
Speaker 2: cross some cross collaboration from other people. Like there's this
Speaker 2: dude I forgot his name, whishu you remember his name?
Speaker 2: Out of Sacramento.
Speaker 1: He's fucking dope.
Speaker 3: Uh deep about the bag?
Speaker 1: No, I mean everybody, it's another guy that's just coming up.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 2: I sent him a book. But anyway, I want to
Speaker 2: see cross collaborations. I want to see people doing secular
Speaker 2: non secular music. I know you atheists, but Miles Minnick
Speaker 2: is fucking fire.
Speaker 3: I know I saw you.
Speaker 1: I had never heard of him until you posted that
Speaker 1: he was at the Miles.
Speaker 3: Where is he from.
Speaker 1: He's from the Bay okay, so but he's a Christian rapper.
Speaker 1: He's a Christian rapper and it's not what you think.
Speaker 3: But it's not like overly like.
Speaker 1: It's imagine imagine plow in church. Mm hm oh it's cracking. Listen,
Speaker 1: Oh it's cracking. It's cracking.
Speaker 2: Shout to Miles minic Bro, him and dars Bro like
Speaker 2: that ship different. So it's like a lot of Russells
Speaker 2: Zold Simon. He just dropped stump, which is gonna be
Speaker 2: to me, it's gonna be a slow burn, but it's
Speaker 2: gonna be one of.
Speaker 1: Them records that's gonna go video. Yeah, it's gonna go.
Speaker 2: And then, like I think, based on what I haven't heard,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm supposed to put up on pull up on
Speaker 2: r J. But I know he got some ship that
Speaker 2: he about to drop to because he got a big
Speaker 2: shot at the Palladium.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think RJ is the best performer in l A.
Speaker 1: I could, I could see it.
Speaker 4: I just I don't think anybody just when RJ hits
Speaker 4: the stage, Bro, it's a suspected. It's just different. Like
Speaker 4: when he bro, I knew he was in I knew.
Speaker 4: I knew because I know how much you love RJ,
Speaker 4: so I just knew he was coming. I was like,
Speaker 4: I can't wait for RJ to hit that motherfucker. He's
Speaker 4: gonna turn this bitch off. Yeah, but yeah, shout out
Speaker 4: to RJ. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, RJ is like he's special.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I think we're in a good place. Like
Speaker 1: RJ got a big show at the Palladium coming up,
Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna be career defining for him
Speaker 1: if he does it right. Yeah, I think, uhause you
Speaker 1: got to remember all this, like Nipsey did his Palladium show,
Speaker 1: the Victory Lap show, and then Roddy did his Palladium show,
Speaker 1: Blast did his Dom did his plate. Like I think
Speaker 1: that Palladium show kind of sets everybody up.
Speaker 4: It's always like a you know, it's like something you
Speaker 4: check off. It's like it goes Roxy. Okay, I got
Speaker 4: my Roxy show. The palladiums like you said, like the
Speaker 4: nip one, the Roddy one. Like I remember the first
Speaker 4: time Roddy did Pladium and he was playing the keys.
Speaker 4: That was like so iconic. It's like, oh shit is
Speaker 4: different now different?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Blast did two nights in a row. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Dolo that shit crazy. So it's like a lot of
Speaker 1: these dudes like Blast is coming too. You know, I
Speaker 1: like him fucking fade, I'm sure on the way, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like I like them fucking with different types of
Speaker 2: music too, for sure. I really, to be honest, I
Speaker 2: really wish I don't know what the politic is, but
Speaker 2: I really wish we could do some more black and
Speaker 2: brown shit.
Speaker 1: I really want that.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean r J and Left he did a
Speaker 4: dope record.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not saying I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about across the board, about like southern California,
Speaker 2: northern California.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like that shit will be fire.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: You know what Jude, that is?
Speaker 2: You know what I really want to hear. I want
Speaker 2: to hear I want to hear Coyote on some plo shit.
Speaker 4: That would be crazy.
Speaker 1: Sheould be crazy, Bro, them rapping ass foods on some
Speaker 1: plow ship, it might go crazy. I want to hear
Speaker 1: Lefty gun play on some plow ship. I agree, I
Speaker 1: think there's we need that, bro. Like, Like the best
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 2: Run we had was when Mustard was running during mustards
Speaker 2: whole crazy run and then during that La to the
Speaker 2: base shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think like, when you think about that that
Speaker 4: period there was Mustard, Legua Stars and then Plow and
Speaker 4: it was just like b K yep HBK Gang and.
Speaker 1: It was different.
Speaker 2: The energy was up, and I think like and also
Speaker 2: and I want, you know, I want to make sure
Speaker 2: this is conveyed. Stop making slow ass music. Nobody wants
Speaker 2: to hear that dreary ass slow ass shit.
Speaker 4: No more.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm done with that, so go get with your producers,
Speaker 2: get with your engineers, make your ship ninety ninety bpm
Speaker 2: and up I get. I'll give you eighty five. Eighty
Speaker 2: five bpm is the slowest record I'm playing moving forward.
Speaker 1: So it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Are there any female m seas in La that? Because
Speaker 4: it yo the Couzzos, I know they performed. The Couzzos
Speaker 4: got energy right. That shit was dope.
Speaker 2: They got so much energy, and I was I love
Speaker 2: that for them because they they don't get that look
Speaker 2: like that, and I loved I love seeing these.
Speaker 1: The Couzzos up there. I know, Age, you got some
Speaker 1: shit coming. There's this girl.
Speaker 2: I wish I could remember her name, but she hard.
Speaker 2: She's a dope ass rapper from here.
Speaker 4: Fuck. I still feel like we need like the face
Speaker 4: of like the female face in LA is up for grabs.
Speaker 4: It is up for grabs, yeah, because right now I think,
Speaker 4: like on like a California, I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 4: it isn't up for grabs. Technically it's Doja Cat. Well, yeah, man,
Speaker 4: Doja Cat.
Speaker 1: I count Doja Cat like people count Kendrick.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But she's yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: She's such a brilliant MC, brilliant artist.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember, what's crazy.
Speaker 2: I remember doing a two Dough Boys event in two thousand,
Speaker 2: Like fucking what year.
Speaker 3: Was that two Dope Boy shout out to Shake and.
Speaker 1: Mack twenty twelve or something like.
Speaker 4: That about right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was DJing a two Dope Boys event and I'm packing
Speaker 2: my like Mecca jumps on the turntable, so I'm done.
Speaker 2: So I'm like I'm about to go, and I'm walking
Speaker 2: out the door of my bag and this girl jumps
Speaker 2: in front of me. She got on these whiskers and shit,
Speaker 2: I'm like what the fuck. And she's like, hey, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's up. She's like I'm like, she's like, I'm Dojah.
Speaker 2: I'm like what. She's like, what's your name, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm DJ. She was like, well, I'm Doja Cat. I said,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is a Doja Cat? She said, she
Speaker 2: said that's my name. I'm like, okay, what's so nice
Speaker 2: to me. She's like, yeah, it's nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: I'm about to go rap and she just she's a
Speaker 2: rappers bro. She's like, she was like a two dope
Speaker 2: this I'm saying, she's like a real head. And you
Speaker 2: would understand this because you've been here out here long enough.
Speaker 2: This event was in like the industrial warehouse downtown, like
Speaker 2: on the backside of the Third Street Bridge, like crazy,
Speaker 2: super underground, Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, two Dope Boys was like definitely the.
Speaker 2: First class and furious type shit, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1: Just this white girl in there just and she was
Speaker 1: like wrapping her.
Speaker 4: Ass off because Doojah white or she mixed. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think she's mixed, right, Oh, she's mixed.
Speaker 1: The only thing was she looked she looked like a
Speaker 1: white girl at that time.
Speaker 4: I want I.
Speaker 3: Want Dojah to like just bang l a a little more.
Speaker 1: She I mean, the thing is Dojah is I.
Speaker 4: Don't mean bang like on some gang shit. But just
Speaker 4: like you know, obviously her song is called the Gray Hills,
Speaker 4: and she you know she But I just I feel
Speaker 4: like this moment that's happening right now, like somehow she
Speaker 4: needed to acknowledge it, be a part of it, be
Speaker 4: on the side of this.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I just I don't think she
Speaker 1: needs to do that.
Speaker 3: She don't need to do nothing.
Speaker 1: She's her own thing for sure.
Speaker 2: What I would like is for Djah to participate on
Speaker 2: a level that it's beneficial to the city, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like we always talk about like Dot
Speaker 2: participated and you see the ramifications of that, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: She's from the valley.
Speaker 4: The Valley. Yeah. Well it's funny too because like you
Speaker 4: and I had always kind of like I wouldn't say
Speaker 4: butt heads, but we're on different sides of the Tyler
Speaker 4: the Creator fandom. Yeah, I've always I mean, I apologize
Speaker 4: to you, no I saw you. I saw you, But
Speaker 4: like you know, I've been wucking with him since you know,
Speaker 4: the Odd Future Wolfgang.
Speaker 3: But you're very when.
Speaker 4: You start talking about crazy shit and the devil and
Speaker 4: all the wild shit that Tyler used to talk about
Speaker 4: when he was an Odd Future Wolfgang kill him all
Speaker 4: and all that shit. It just wasn't for you log off, Yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure. And but you know, there'd always kind of
Speaker 4: been like you know these like separate LA's on the
Speaker 4: hip hop side where you would like look at like.
Speaker 1: I think it's like four different LA's.
Speaker 4: There's like the guys like the Internet and Tyler and
Speaker 4: and then there'd be the RJ's and and the more
Speaker 4: you know, street centric sides where politics are very prevalent
Speaker 4: in the imagery and the music. Then they would you say,
Speaker 4: like the Fairfax kind of wave, which was odd future
Speaker 4: casey Veggie's.
Speaker 1: Dom Dom well Down's from Lamart Park.
Speaker 2: But same, So what are the other two then? So
Speaker 2: I would look at it, it's like you got you
Speaker 2: got like the Lamart Park. Actually I would say it's three.
Speaker 2: I would say it's the street guys. You got the
Speaker 2: hipster crowd, which is that like.
Speaker 1: Tyler all that kind of shit, and then you have.
Speaker 2: The other and the other would be like a Doja
Speaker 2: cat right, she don't really fit into would you.
Speaker 3: Consider look as the other?
Speaker 1: Nah that is from Compton for real?
Speaker 4: No, No, I know, but I'm saying like in terms
Speaker 4: of like that because I always like, when I think.
Speaker 1: You're looking at it as a sound thing, trick in
Speaker 1: the imagery thing, don't look at.
Speaker 4: It like that.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the trick. That's how he got him right.
Speaker 2: You have to look at it like Dot has always
Speaker 2: made references in his music that ties him to the
Speaker 2: community he comes from, for sure. Same thing Roddy Roddy
Speaker 2: O Roddy sounds like he's from the South. Roddy wear Dicky.
Speaker 1: Suit on on the Grammy Awards and says cousin his music, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they're in twenty twenty. Right culture.
Speaker 2: Culture is prevalent in both of those people, regardless of
Speaker 2: what the sec what it is that you're hearing.
Speaker 1: I look at it.
Speaker 2: Differently because doja you can look at her shit and
Speaker 2: not know where the fuck she's from. Fact she's She's
Speaker 2: culturally ambiguous, which works for her. She's from here. We
Speaker 2: claim her right one hundred percent. Tyler's from here, we
Speaker 2: claim him one hundred percent. But you can look at
Speaker 2: their art and not know where they're from. That's true,
Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying. So, and even Tyler it
Speaker 2: has culture in his music for sure, the way he
Speaker 2: dances and shit.
Speaker 4: Tyler's an a nigga.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I look at it differently just because the
Speaker 2: way Doja is. She became a pop star immediately, and
Speaker 2: then she had to remind you niggas that she could.
Speaker 1: Rap, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: This last album she had to tell.
Speaker 1: Y'all got Doljah fucked up for sure, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like dog.
Speaker 4: You can rap.
Speaker 3: I think she's honestly, yeah.
Speaker 1: Those just fucking over a lot of girls, and from
Speaker 1: a rat perspective, definitely keep it a lot of men too.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, to keep it a buck.
Speaker 1: She those is kind of fucking over a lot of
Speaker 1: you do for sure.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you Roddy obviously you've you know,
Speaker 4: Roddy's somebody who's one of my favorite artists. You know,
Speaker 4: please excuse me for being anti social. I remember he
Speaker 4: gave us that title where We're at We're at a
Speaker 4: uh and uh. You know, I feel like he's an
Speaker 4: introvert and I feel like the pandemic. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: the pandemic affected somebody more than maybe the trajectory that
Speaker 4: Roddy was on in terms of him not necessarily being
Speaker 4: able to get in that full festival season when the
Speaker 4: Box was the number one song in the world, and
Speaker 4: you know, think about it. December twenty nineteen is when
Speaker 4: the album drops. Yeah, and in March twenty twenty is
Speaker 4: when we shut down.
Speaker 1: Everything done.
Speaker 4: And you know, I know there was multiple versions of
Speaker 4: his second album, and you know, I know that you've
Speaker 4: been really close with Roddy and helping him in the
Speaker 4: studio and stuff, and just like, you know, it was
Speaker 4: just it feels good to see. I feel like Roddy's
Speaker 4: backing is like in is bag for real, like like confidence.
Speaker 2: Wise, confidence wise, yes, but Roddy had to you got
Speaker 2: to think. It's like I don't want to equate him
Speaker 2: like this. They're going to probably not like this on
Speaker 2: the internet. But it's kind of like when I talk
Speaker 2: to my big homies about Mike Tyson and you take
Speaker 2: a nineteen twenty year old and you give him ten
Speaker 2: million or twenty million dollars or whatever it is, it's
Speaker 2: like here, it's like, yo, I'm nineteen, right, he won.
Speaker 1: Roddy was rich when he was. Roddy was really.
Speaker 2: Rich at twenty one years old, crazy like in real
Speaker 2: life rich, not like small rich rich, big rich. Yeah,
Speaker 2: at twenty one, So it's like, what were you doing
Speaker 2: at twenty one years old?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So I always think, I always people I want people
Speaker 2: to just visualize that, right, And I don't want to
Speaker 2: give like a number. But let's say let's say you're
Speaker 2: twenty one years old, somebody gives you twenty million dollars.
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: What do you do? Do you do?
Speaker 2: You be like, you know what, I need to get
Speaker 2: focused and make my next album, right, I need to
Speaker 2: get in here and take this shit. You're like, yo,
Speaker 2: then you got to deal with family. You gotta do
Speaker 2: with the homies, you gotta do with everything coming at
Speaker 2: your mile a minute. So when I've had these conversations
Speaker 2: with him, he just like I just talked to him.
Speaker 1: Actually, he called me yesterday.
Speaker 2: We talked about half an hour yesterday and he was
Speaker 2: just saying, like how much he appreciates our conversations.
Speaker 4: And he's grown as a man.
Speaker 2: You know, at this point, he's a father, right, he's
Speaker 2: you know, you had your kid young, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, eighteen, So he's a dad now and he's
Speaker 2: like learning how to be a man, and he's dealing
Speaker 2: with the homies. And he's dealing with politics on a
Speaker 2: different level where he got all of these white people
Speaker 2: handling his business affairs. He got businesses in Miami, he
Speaker 2: got businesses over here. He has businesses that are making
Speaker 2: a lot of money every year, right that are outside
Speaker 2: of music.
Speaker 4: People you don't even like, we don't even know about it.
Speaker 1: You don't even know about these businesses.
Speaker 2: And so I think his mentality is just different at
Speaker 2: this point, which translates into the music. And that's what
Speaker 2: people are getting right now. Like I told him a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, like you gotta let these people in.
Speaker 2: You gotta let people in. It's only so long you
Speaker 2: could do the jewelry and the cars and shit like that.
Speaker 2: People want to know who the fuck you are. People
Speaker 2: want to know what you stand on where you stand,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like that's that's been a
Speaker 2: big criticism with with Drake for all these years. We
Speaker 2: don't know where he stands on anything. You don't know
Speaker 2: how he feels about Black lives matter. You don't know
Speaker 2: how he feels. You don't know what shit, You don't know.
Speaker 4: How That's what I've been saying for years. You don't
Speaker 4: know how he feels about Trump. He doesn't have an
Speaker 4: opinion on shit, on nothing except for these bitches.
Speaker 2: And so my point is exactly. And so my point
Speaker 2: is I was telling Roddy like, you gotta let us in.
Speaker 2: I know, but they don't know. And so I think
Speaker 2: he did that with Survivor's remorse, like he's phenomenal. Like
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, cause he didn't even let me see
Speaker 2: the video until like we were on the phone at
Speaker 2: four in the morning before it drops, and he sent
Speaker 2: me the video maybe like I don't know, four hours
Speaker 2: before it came out of it came about like six
Speaker 2: am or whatever, I mean something like that, and he
Speaker 2: sent me the link. We were on the phone because
Speaker 2: he was blowing my phone and it was like it
Speaker 2: was early as fuck, like four.
Speaker 1: In the morning and some shit. I'm like, bro, what's up.
Speaker 1: Everything good? I thought something happened. He's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, you know, like we were having
Speaker 1: a private conversation, but he sent me the video. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I called him right back. This is what the fuck
Speaker 1: I've been talking about. When you listen to the song,
Speaker 1: it's cool, it's a good song. When you watch the video,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's a different impact, and to me that was important
Speaker 1: for him specifically. We know where Kendricks from, we know
Speaker 1: where he's staying up, we know you could pretty much
Speaker 1: extrapulate what he's on.
Speaker 4: Well, I think too, like feed the Streets early Roddy,
Speaker 4: it was very like.
Speaker 2: This is where he's from, this where Yeah, you guys,
Speaker 2: you don't know how he feels, right, We don't know
Speaker 2: what he thinks, right. You know where he's from, and
Speaker 2: the imagery is there. You can see his homies in
Speaker 2: the project, but you don't know what's on his mind, right.
Speaker 2: And I always try to explain the artists. You have
Speaker 2: to figure out a way to translate that to people
Speaker 2: who love your music, even in order to garner new fans,
Speaker 2: because even when we do interviews, we don't talk about
Speaker 2: just the album. I want to talk to you about fatherhood.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about like when we
Speaker 2: had an offset and or whoever come in.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to you.
Speaker 2: About being a dad, because if I don't like your
Speaker 2: fucking album, I might connect to you as being a dad.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: It might not be about the music.
Speaker 4: It might be about a lot of people nowadays, like
Speaker 4: they become fans of artists before they hear the music.
Speaker 4: Like I have so many people, y'all. I love Mexicano
Speaker 4: Tea man. I saw him on your podcast, I saw
Speaker 4: him on Joe Rogan, and I saw him on Homegrown,
Speaker 4: and then they go to the music, and then they
Speaker 4: go to the music.
Speaker 2: And so I think with Roddy, that's where he's at now.
Speaker 2: He's he's man enough, and he's and he's being transparent
Speaker 2: enough to allow the public into his life. And that's
Speaker 2: why you see like him having his kid and or
Speaker 2: you see and.
Speaker 4: He's like one of the best songmakers of the last
Speaker 4: I don't even know, Like I know people didn't like
Speaker 4: a second second album, but there's a lot to love
Speaker 4: on that album.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I just feel.
Speaker 2: I just realized I don't remember who I was songing to.
Speaker 2: But like Roddy makes Roddy makes jamming ballads.
Speaker 4: That's fair. And I was like, damn, late at night,
Speaker 4: I never thought about it like that.
Speaker 2: But he makes jam and ass ballads and he makes
Speaker 2: ballots that are palatable in this in this climate, and
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I never.
Speaker 3: Thought it real.
Speaker 4: For people who don't know it was said that doctor
Speaker 4: Dre was not too keen of you and your criticism
Speaker 4: of the Compton album. Hm, did you get to see
Speaker 4: Dre I.
Speaker 3: Stayed out his way, he stayed out of his way?
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 2: That wasn't the time of the place. I want to
Speaker 2: have a I would love to have a conversation with you.
Speaker 4: How important do you think doctor Dre and Snoop are
Speaker 4: to this moment?
Speaker 1: It's intermountable. Yeah, you don't get none of it Without
Speaker 1: Snoop and Dre, you don't get I'm back, let me
Speaker 1: back up.
Speaker 4: You got a new dog Pen album that just came out,
Speaker 4: Death rows.
Speaker 1: Man Shot Out to the Death the dog Pound album. Bro.
Speaker 2: I was so relieved to hear that because it wasn't
Speaker 2: it was people expected. But it starts slowly turning into
Speaker 2: not with people like that DJ Premiere record was crazy. Sure,
Speaker 2: like people think like corrupt is one of the Corrupt
Speaker 2: is like a really great MC godlevel MC bro for sure,
Speaker 2: And people got corrupt fucked up. They got dass fucked
Speaker 2: up too, but corrupt it's different. So I was I'd
Speaker 2: love to see that. But let me back up. Let's
Speaker 2: take Snoop out of it. You don't get none of
Speaker 2: this ship without Doctor Dre. For sure, nothing nothing moves
Speaker 2: without doctor Dre. You don't get n w A, you
Speaker 2: don't get easy, you don't get nothing.
Speaker 1: What uh death Road? Nothing. And so the biggest hip
Speaker 1: hop tree ever, let's.
Speaker 2: Take, let's take, let's go ahead and remove Snoop and
Speaker 2: it's it's all Rose Leader Dre.
Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor Dre's a fucking genius.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just hope that this moment also motivates them to
Speaker 4: to Obviously, Snoop is active, you know.
Speaker 2: Snoop It I love Snoop because Snoop participates in the Coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, him and Quicker on tour right now in Canada,
Speaker 4: I think. But in terms of like you know, Dre,
Speaker 4: it's like, shit, man, you were in the Houdini video.
Speaker 4: You just puffed up on stage with Kendrick.
Speaker 1: By the way, I like that Eminem song.
Speaker 4: Yes you and a lot of fucking dudes who look
Speaker 4: like me. They're fucking post forty.
Speaker 3: That song sucks.
Speaker 4: I like it. I mean, you know what, No, no,
Speaker 4: let me let's put out worse songs.
Speaker 1: I like the video.
Speaker 3: I like the Yo. So the problem that I had with.
Speaker 1: Let me let me let me back up. I love
Speaker 1: the video.
Speaker 4: The problem I had with the song is I heard
Speaker 4: it on its own about the video.
Speaker 3: And so when you when you just listen to it,
Speaker 3: and then when I saw.
Speaker 4: The video, it's like, oh, I get it. It was like,
Speaker 4: oh this this old version of him came through the portal.
Speaker 4: I get it. And and honestly, it is a catchy
Speaker 4: ass hook. It is a catchy hook, and he's he's
Speaker 4: wrapping his ass off on the song it is. I
Speaker 4: hope that this, you know, back in the day, Eminem
Speaker 4: used to set up every album with my name is
Speaker 4: or just Lose It or one of these goofy singles,
Speaker 4: And I hope that this means we're gonna get an
Speaker 4: amazing body of work from Eminem, because I actually like
Speaker 4: the life. Do you remember when you and I were
Speaker 4: in the studio and the Eminem fucking trackless dropped and
Speaker 4: I don't fucking I just wanted to break everything because
Speaker 4: I was just so to bro. Eminem had a decade
Speaker 4: of just putting out less than favorable music in my
Speaker 4: humble opinion, but music to be murdered by was great.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wouldn't. I haven't been a fan of
Speaker 1: none of the Eminem stuff.
Speaker 4: The last album was good. Music to be Murdered By
Speaker 4: was actually like fucking great.
Speaker 2: No, No, Eminem was an elite MC for sure. I
Speaker 2: wasn't a fan of the music, but like.
Speaker 4: That Revival album is one of the worst album since
Speaker 4: I released.
Speaker 1: I would love to get a steap peek of this
Speaker 1: new album.
Speaker 4: Hear me too, man, hopefully, you know, I just want
Speaker 4: everybody to be inspired to drop, like okay cool, you know,
Speaker 4: like shots to muggs.
Speaker 3: Mugs been working like low.
Speaker 4: Key with like TF and Jay Worthy and and you know, shit,
Speaker 4: let's do a fucking cybercill album. Let's fucking you know.
Speaker 4: We just got the DJ Quick and Jason Martin album.
Speaker 4: There's there's people motherfuckers are working. Yeah. I like.
Speaker 1: I like the fact that I like that.
Speaker 2: It's also embrasive too, because there was a whole time
Speaker 2: period where hip hop is as an age as an
Speaker 2: age cap and you have to get out the way.
Speaker 1: But now it's like nah, bro, and.
Speaker 4: Even like the you know, on the Mexican side, like
Speaker 4: I feel like Mexican hip hop in LA has never
Speaker 4: been stronger. Like it's great right now. You know, we
Speaker 4: talked about coyote lefties, you know, for for how do
Speaker 4: you feel about lefty lefties? Makes no music and.
Speaker 2: Now it's a market for everything. I think I want
Speaker 2: to see, Like, hey, so I want to see pace.
Speaker 2: I want to see the ogs really really embrace the
Speaker 2: new producers. I think that's going to make a world
Speaker 2: of difference, sure, because that's one thing that I do
Speaker 2: give to the East Coast and even the South. I
Speaker 2: guess they do the same thing.
Speaker 1: You'll you you will hear.
Speaker 4: You know, like.
Speaker 2: Fifty cent work with a new producer all the time,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you'll see that that
Speaker 2: that's a thing that's not really a thing out here.
Speaker 4: Like also, though I wouldn't mind the young kids working with.
Speaker 2: Like battle Cat or like, I want the same thing too.
Speaker 2: But at the same.
Speaker 4: Time, because I think Desi Hollow has done a really
Speaker 4: good job of being he's from Ocean Side, but he's
Speaker 4: making classic West Coast music and it's like working for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got dudes like Doggy Style, like right
Speaker 1: like he like all these different people.
Speaker 2: I would love to see just the blending of it
Speaker 2: because it's only going to make everybody better.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 2: I need my guy mars. I need him to do
Speaker 2: his part. I need him to get in with LOWD
Speaker 2: of grade. I need these things to happen in order
Speaker 2: for the progression of.
Speaker 3: Shots A big hit shots to hit Boy two.
Speaker 1: Big hit Big Hit is a prime example. What the
Speaker 1: fuck I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: There's a there's they got four songs, big hit got
Speaker 2: I think like four songs.
Speaker 3: With m crazy, big hits crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like bro like he's he got out of prison
Speaker 1: and got to work, got cracking, got it cracking.
Speaker 3: Kendrick album coming.
Speaker 1: I guess so I share woul Hope so right? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know you tell me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm assume so you in the group chat, right,
Speaker 4: I'm not in the group chat that Cherry.
Speaker 1: I'm not in no group chat. I'm in a group
Speaker 1: chat with you.
Speaker 4: Whatever number I have for Dave Free has been green
Speaker 4: bubbles for like six years.
Speaker 2: Nah shout out to Dave Man Like again, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be surprised if we got something soon, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's not me. It also was Nope.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this hed, how dope was it
Speaker 4: to see? Because it felt like this moment pushed the
Speaker 4: TD shit together. I'm not saying that it was like fractured,
Speaker 4: but you know, Kendrick left did the pg lang thing.
Speaker 4: But this moment to see everybody back together and say,
Speaker 4: you know what, I know. I might not be on
Speaker 4: the label no more, but this is where it started.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up because this brings me
Speaker 2: back to what we started with, and that's culture. Cultural
Speaker 2: nuance matters, relationships matter. There's never been a fracture in
Speaker 2: that way. It's just a we want to see the
Speaker 2: homie do his own thing.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Now, this is where culture matters. Let's say there is
Speaker 2: a thing. There wasn't, but let's say there is a thing.
Speaker 2: Let's say let's say that. Let's say that DOT doesn't
Speaker 2: fuck with TD and vice versa. Right, top don't fuck
Speaker 2: with dot. Let's say that hypothetically speaking, right, if you're
Speaker 2: an outsider, you can't come over here and pick on that.
Speaker 4: We can pick on that, we can, but you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: That's what people don't understand about cultural nuance and where
Speaker 2: and how and where we come from. If I have
Speaker 2: a brother and he special needs, I can make fun
Speaker 2: of my brother.
Speaker 4: You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't make fun of my little brother.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, that's a problem.
Speaker 2: That's why culture matters, and that's why being authentically from
Speaker 2: those things matter, because if you don't, then you violate
Speaker 2: said things, and now you get violated.
Speaker 4: And then you look stupid, then you look crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and now you're jow Rule, but is much more famous.
Speaker 4: I like Jiu hey man, I liked the New York
Speaker 4: im from New York mes Maris. All that shit was cool,
Speaker 4: but just never was the same again, was it? Anyway?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have Jirou produce my festival, but I fuck
Speaker 1: with ji for sure.
Speaker 4: I love jaw yeah, you know, but these things weren't
Speaker 4: the same after back then, and I smelled pussy, you know,
Speaker 4: all that good stuff. Anyway, head, I appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 4: I'm about to piss my pants. Effective immediately Sundays.
Speaker 1: On Serious I'm Serious Scent hip Hop Nation, but.
Speaker 3: Five pm Pacific time.
Speaker 1: Five. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can also find effective immediately, effective immediately on the
Speaker 2: YouTube podcast all that Homegrown.
Speaker 1: Radio still going, Homegrown is still going?
Speaker 4: Are you gonna put out any I feel like now
Speaker 4: you got to put an album out. You've always talked
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
Speaker 4: DJ had album on the way that was to look
Speaker 4: at Sallas DJ head album on the way. A lots
Speaker 4: going on man, and then oh we did you know
Speaker 4: this whole time we didn't even talk about your show
Speaker 4: with the Elliot Wilson and Joe.
Speaker 1: The bigger picture makes you tap into the bigger picture.
Speaker 4: Elliott Wilson, I appreciate you holding the Gold accountable for
Speaker 4: his fucking thirty year long bias against you know everything
Speaker 4: that's that's not Drake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Drake han't been around for thirty years.
Speaker 4: No, but I mean not even that, Just like just
Speaker 4: the East coast bias that we always are.
Speaker 1: Talking about, he's West Coast Wilson.
Speaker 3: Now now he's West coast Wilson.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Elliott Wilson, man, go get a bar
Speaker 2: to the bigger picture. Hip hop d X up rocks.
Speaker 2: Shout to the family over there. We're building something real special.
Speaker 4: I saw your conversation and they were saying, is it
Speaker 4: crazy not to consider Kendrick top ten? I think it's insane. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: not to consider him top ten. I'm saying number one
Speaker 4: is either j Z or Kendrick Lamar, And that's it.
Speaker 1: That's the conversation.
Speaker 4: And if you don't like that, suck some of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4: Understand creature on your fucking podcast.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why that's even a conversation.
Speaker 4: Literally, it's Kendrick.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even on the show. On the show docket.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why are you even talking about this?
Speaker 4: I had him, I had him at about five, but
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, he dismantled a whole generation's goat whatever
Speaker 4: and never was Michael.
Speaker 1: I don't have a comment on that.
Speaker 4: But just just surgically picked him apart, like, oh man,
Speaker 4: it was just rough. It was like, you know, the
Speaker 4: Clippers of the nineties going against like the Lakers of
Speaker 4: the eighties or something like. It was just it was
Speaker 4: like Michael Oli Kandy, he turns Drake into Michael Olowa
Speaker 4: Kandi bro. You know what I'm saying. Like it's a
Speaker 4: basketball reference and not a lot of people are gonna
Speaker 4: get number one overall.
Speaker 3: Pick went to the Clippers, big old.
Speaker 4: But Kwanmie Brown is ass right, you know, Kobe to
Speaker 4: Kwame Right anyway.
Speaker 1: Oh, I got a question for you, rap. So you
Speaker 1: do radio every day?
Speaker 2: We can't curse on the radio, correct, Like we can't
Speaker 2: say fuck.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: So if you know us, if you're playing a song on.
Speaker 2: The radio and the word fuck is coming up, and
Speaker 2: you know it's coming up, you have you've said it
Speaker 2: in your mind, like this word is coming up, so
Speaker 2: I have to take that out right right, Okay, So
Speaker 2: the same thing will be applied to the in word.
Speaker 2: If you know the in word is coming up, then
Speaker 2: you've said it in your brain to mute it out loud.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yeah, see that's what I thought.
Speaker 2: Jeremy Heck doesn't think. So he thinks that he can
Speaker 2: mute inwards in.
Speaker 1: His head, so he says it out of his mouth.
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't say it at all, but he said
Speaker 2: that he can't mute. He said that he doesn't say
Speaker 2: it at all, even in his break he's lying.
Speaker 4: That's what I said.
Speaker 2: You have to say the in word in your mind
Speaker 2: in order to stop yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, while I'm rapping songs, I definitely self edit.
Speaker 1: But like you have to say the word in your mind,
Speaker 1: the inwards.
Speaker 4: Flying in my head. I'll tell you what you're not.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna tell me when when Trinidad James allgoed,
Speaker 4: everything is on the nd word ain't flying in my head,
Speaker 4: like what are we talking about? Hey, tell his Canadian
Speaker 4: ass stop being so soft and stand on business. He's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you don't understand. Flying around, he's like, you know, you
Speaker 4: don't understand. It's just a it's just a negative in
Speaker 4: my head. My head doesn't compute the word. I'm so whoa,
Speaker 4: I'm so woe. I'm the head. It doesn't even know.
Speaker 1: Don't work like that.
Speaker 4: That's how it works. Djhad, thank you brother, West Coast
Speaker 4: Boom