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Speaker 2: He understand the part of narratives, so deed shaming you

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Speaker 2: I believe the position thug finds himself in as Yo.

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Speaker 4: Doug tweet and the elite. I still don't know what

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Speaker 4: how somebody can interpret his behavior as mentioned. That's all

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. Said he said, when you say how people

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Speaker 4: based on what Baseball to mation. Me as a fan

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Speaker 4: and that a'm mind to meet. Both of those things

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Speaker 4: Ge it's not my business. I don't care by intrust

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Speaker 4: know how he gets receive. That's what I'm saying. I'm

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Speaker 4: let you know since that has happened and he came

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Speaker 4: home just I'm my gun. Yeah, he's done quite a

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Speaker 4: few sold out shows. Yeah, the country. He dropped albums

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Speaker 4: get it because I'm gonnaell you, why don't get matters?

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Speaker 4: Because the people that have been buying his music that's

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Speaker 1: What's my says, that's right.

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Speaker 4: It's about if Ug says, yes, I say, that's what

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Speaker 1: Yes I happen.

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Speaker 4: What I just say. I'm just looking at it. The

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Speaker 2: Actual, Yo, this is why I love my job because

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Speaker 2: there was a tweet that is now been deleted. It says,

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Speaker 2: don't know you, my guy. Again, this is a declaration

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Speaker 2: for Thug distancing himself. When we listen to people like Joe,

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Speaker 2: forgetting what scenario Thug has found himself in. For the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years, people have been using Young Thug's

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Speaker 1: But there's a point where.

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Speaker 2: You get in the cool kid calling and the Drakes

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Speaker 2: Diddies call you, and the Jade calls you. Right in

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Speaker 2: when the cool kid community.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know no one.

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Speaker 4: I a bunch of is it a total disrated niggas

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Speaker 4: that had it lost it? Everybody ain't got it's new

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Speaker 4: niggas on the scene. That niggas want a minute, all

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Speaker 4: them niggas. That's that's basically picked a side. When it happened,

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Speaker 4: they need him one more than he needs them. That's

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Speaker 4: a things are gonna call him when it when he's

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Speaker 1: They gonna call him.

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Speaker 2: And here's where I want to stop, because it ain't

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Speaker 2: a joke if we never get serious. Right, I've heard

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Speaker 2: that someone I can't remember where I heard that. It's

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Speaker 2: you're wrong about this. Let's look at who Young Thug's

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Speaker 2: Young Thugs friends are like Future he's been on the

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Speaker 2: biggest run, like respectfully the Gunner. He sold ninety one

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Speaker 2: same mouse. If you let them talk long enough, you

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Speaker 2: can hear him, Hayden. You can hear him creating narratives

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's your biasness are you say to just say that.

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Speaker 2: The interesting part about this is it's thug and Gunna

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Speaker 2: meek all you to know something. They tricking y'all with

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Speaker 2: way to handle this. Again, I keep telling these dudes

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Speaker 2: and that's some nasty behavior. It's like, yo, bro, nobody

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Speaker 2: If somebody sit there, it don't even matter. And I

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Speaker 2: You got to have some You gotta have some influence,

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Speaker 1: Why he won't say that? Yo?

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Speaker 2: Y'all got me fxed up. I ain't did no gay stuff.

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Speaker 2: I ain't with the gay shit. Keep my name out

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Speaker 2: the next thing they say? Man, he throwing his friends

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Speaker 2: to do media, and it's to do the kind of

434
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 2: media that gives your fans the clips and fuels and

435
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: talking points to defend you in some of those immens

436
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: and allow you to keep living your life. But sometimes

437
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: people get too cool to do media and their brand

438
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: will literally suffer from it because your narrative is created

439
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 2: by the people who don't mind cutting the cameras on

440
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: the people that don't mind sitting here two three hundred

441
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: thousand people listening. You dig what I'm saying, just trying

442
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: to make it through their day. But they're being influenced

443
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: and you're putting two and two together for them, and

444
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: it's making sense about why he fell off, of why

445
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: he owned, or why he supposed to did this, or

446
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: why this is the scenario. It makes sense for them

447
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 2: because most of America is the kind of people that

448
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: are by the outfit off the mannequin.

449
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: So they need the.

450
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: Narrative presented their form. They need you to tell them

451
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: what to think. They need to tell them, oh, that's

452
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 2: the same flowing us. They don't give a five if

453
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: it's the same flow into it. Tell them to care

454
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: about it's the same flow. I remember, remember when the

455
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: baby were going through that, Yo, they gonna trick y'all

456
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: out of doing y'all.

457
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: Didn't learn this from fifty cent.

458
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: Fifty cent came and told y'all, rue ma ain't doing

459
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: too much saying down in corny. He stopped singing, and

460
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: fifty went to singing and never let nobody talk him

461
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: out of singing. He was in the height of his

462
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: beef talking about take you to the candy Shaw because

463
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: it's a strong mind.

464
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: You gotta know.

465
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean this shit with a mind. I mean this

466
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: shit with a mission. I mean deep waters. I'm sealed

467
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: Team six. It's two three hundred million out there. I

468
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: got to go grab you.

469
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying. So fifty cent got the buckle down.

470
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: Trick a sucker, and all due respect to Joab, I

471
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: don't know if you're a sucker, but I'm saying his mindset,

472
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: tricker in the change in his whole get down and

473
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: then do what he was doing, because that's what's a pilling.

474
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: Why would these try to trick little baby in the

475
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: switching this flow? When stealing little baby flowing going to

476
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: get deals you got implement and little babies flow and

477
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: having four and five and six million listens on Big

478
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: Boy deals, I'm stealing this flow while y'all trying to

479
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: tell him to switch his flow. But if I don't

480
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: know how to cover up in the storm, these suckers

481
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: throw and shit at a real You got to know

482
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: how to cover up in this shit, homie, because if

483
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: they get your confidence, you going left with them. These

484
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: suckers just need something to talk about. They gonna talk

485
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: about it either way, homie. But back to Doug and

486
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: Gunna and let me relax, because I feel marvelous. I

487
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: think this was less about who needs who, and this

488
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: is Thug trying to take control of his narrative. And

489
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: what's important and interesting to me is that you got

490
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: people that's in media, which means they understand the power

491
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: of narratives, do not get confused understanding the part of

492
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: the narratives. So these shame in you for trying to

493
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: take control of your narrative. Listen, if I'm Thug, I

494
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: know people are sitting on uncertainty whether me.

495
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: Ain gonna work it out. I don't know what they're

496
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: gonna do, but I'm.

497
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: Telling you this fans brands features real ones, families, all

498
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: kinds of shit that's uncertain about how Thug feels about Gunner.

499
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: How do you get that out? I believe the position

500
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: Thug finds himself in as Yo. I've been quiet for

501
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: two years straight and being able to say nothing. This

502
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: is me coming off the heels of being as talkative

503
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: ever I've ever been in my life. Because I was successful,

504
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: I ain't been able to say nothing in two years.

505
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: I've lost control over my own narrative. They don't know

506
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: who my friends are. They don't know who thee told

507
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: on me, who ain't told who I'm still cool with,

508
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: Who ain't cool and went in there and told on me,

509
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: got out, snitched, got rich. I don't know what's going on.

510
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: I ain't even control of my own narrative. People wearing

511
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: my flags holland Wye sall this told on me, this.

512
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: Praying for me.

513
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: You got some interviews acting like they praying for me

514
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: after they done testified on me. You got it done

515
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: to please owe me this right, come home, Let's keep it.

516
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: Gangst about the scenario to young hen he trying to

517
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: take back, He trying to take back control of his narrative.

518
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: It's been two years of silence for these young men.

519
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: Let just listen to a little bit more. We cook

520
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: in the day.

521
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 4: So if i't I turn your back on the rest,

522
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 4: y el still flyway by both your your shuho, who

523
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: but who else you would flint? I'm rad that's sold

524
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: and something while he was there. I'm just saying, why

525
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: would thug? Because I do that, I just agree with.

526
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: I think that is the part of conversation. Why would

527
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: thugs step on his own dope? I can't see him

528
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: ever doing that one.

529
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: That's a two.

530
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 4: Any event that he did, I think it's got a

531
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 4: bigger This is all speculative.

532
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 5: Ian.

533
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: When Thug was locked up, Guya came out, he dropedwo projects.

534
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: So whatever money was generated when it was the revenue

535
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: was generated from the project, thugs might have need that money.

536
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna be mumpstor why youre generating money for

537
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 4: me when I'm a fuf spituationrtn't want to be uney

538
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: those stirrh Oh's second stud and that's what they do

539
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 4: in the street. You will cut your nose off to

540
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 4: spite your face. If you're standing on principle. I know that,

541
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: I know be having principal talk.

542
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: I bast talk.

543
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: If you're going to talk and you're looking at it

544
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 4: from Thug's perspective, you are saying, fuck that money. I'm

545
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 4: standing on principle. No, no that if he was saying that,

546
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 4: he would have told the judge the one person I

547
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 4: need to speak to I want to be able communicate

548
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: with that was a member of this case. It is

549
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: my brother and gunna way don't mean you fuck it.

550
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: Like I have to talk to him.

551
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 4: I mean no, I can't always only why I hate

552
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 4: the principle. Niggas. Now, y'all conveniently speak down when you want,

553
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 4: but I'm not fucking with you bene on my principle.

554
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 4: You're like y'all cot wat dat big him want drink?

555
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: Wait wait, tim a gay, I'm might to do it

556
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: to cut you for the lib it's my works.

557
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 5: You are not stop.

558
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: We have to stop an scentition. You are not dropping

559
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: your cash out.

560
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: No really don't.

561
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: You don't doing it even if you need to such.

562
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: Noye got hundre years the musicin It's point me a

563
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: one person that's done it. We alway ad is a

564
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 4: pattern of niggas work through their dispency because it's way

565
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 4: to much money about music business. Don't get fool with

566
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 4: that shit. Y'all tell you fuckings free bodies. Sorry that

567
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 4: shit don't work on it, man, yo.

568
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: Dog let.

569
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: That'sholly if you did it to gots you paper workhen

570
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: red the fucky y'all talking about it, you know what

571
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: I mean? Figure, I was saying, Oh, it's pritibilt Moreshi,

572
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 4: I'm sick of it. Nigga's out here doing shit for

573
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: a dollar. That's better than I've be finighting. Try with

574
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: the mos high prist lawyers in the univer I'm saying,

575
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: you get a million nigs? Do you have boots? Now

576
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: turned down your top to herc HS say y'all saying

577
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: bring up, I'm taking down. I'm righty Tsonnigga, set that down.

578
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: Done.

579
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: You don't heal the gay whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

580
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: whoa whoa.

581
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: Let me stop them right there for a second. I

582
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: want to let the record reflect number one, that this

583
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: is a trick that the media does a lot of times.

584
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: For me.

585
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: It's funny. But if you know, you know, and if

586
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: you don't, you don't. They've now took this conversation into law.

587
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: They are now playing with the bread of young thug

588
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: Gunner all these others in La La land with the

589
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: bread having a conversation. And while that's good for podcasting.

590
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't think we need to stand on it. If

591
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: it lacks validity, if it's not the gospel, let's not

592
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: stand on it and start having a conversation on this

593
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: platforms Now, let's zoom out. Number one, Thug never spoke

594
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: about tearing up a contract. So now the fact that

595
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: Joe Budden is hollering in the camera saying, you principal

596
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: out there, shut that shit up. You doing shit for

597
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: the money in your lying tell it to your street homeboys.

598
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: Thug never said he was ripping up the contract. What

599
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: Thug is addressing is the cultural influence.

600
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: Number one. When we think about why Sale in particular

601
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: in the South.

602
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: Wy Sale young Thug, the equity that they've built up

603
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: over the years in this culture, the cachet that he

604
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: believes someone that may have did what he thinks is

605
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: the wrong thing against his case could still be eating

606
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: off of. Why not take control of that narrative? Now,

607
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: I don't agree with it two weeks out of jail,

608
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: because it's a lot on the line. We want to

609
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: stay clear. But this is why you gotta have media

610
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: next to you. You gotta really lock in with someone

611
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: that they know. Now they said be with Thugnim and

612
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: Thugnim got to have him around so when they speak,

613
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: they know, hey, you know he ain't said Homie said it.

614
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: But Homie be around slim them. And this is what

615
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: I was telling, babing them the entire times, like, Yo,

616
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: you got me as an entity?

617
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: What y'all need to feed me? Feed that to me.

618
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: I take it to the people.

619
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: This is what gets your fans to know what your

620
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: narrative is. You got to stay on top of that.

621
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: It's very important. Narrative goes right to product. Nowadays they

622
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: run hand in hand. It's a collaborative concert in which

623
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: narrative and product has to work in concert for you

624
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: to go platinum. There's no more going platinum just off

625
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: one or the other in this niche market that win.

626
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: I mean, at some point, these mytho maniacs that are

627
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: behind these microphones and on these cameras have to put

628
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: theirselves in someone else's shoes and have some level of

629
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: empathy and say, yo, all right. Thug has not been

630
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: able to speak for two years. He's been fighting for

631
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: his life. And this is why I say there's no

632
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: real honor in street code, but there's honor in accountability,

633
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: and that's man shit. But there's no honor in the

634
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: street cold because you'll get out in there look at

635
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: you and say some of this shit that these people

636
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 2: are saying. But here's the thing. Thug was quiet all

637
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: the way up until the day they let him go.

638
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: His freedom was on the line, and they had him

639
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: in court and they said, if you just testify, I

640
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: will let you go to day. But if you don't,

641
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna telling people give you twenty five years. We're

642
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: gonna telling people near you to the cross if you

643
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: don't testify, but if you get up there, we'll let

644
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: you go today.

645
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: And he still didn't open his mouth.

646
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: And I speak on that because maybe those are the

647
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: principles and morals that Thug lives by, and so if

648
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: those are my principles and morals, and y'all, y'all got

649
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: it mixed up thinking that I may still be in

650
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 2: position to endorse that while going through this, I couldn't

651
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: imagine what.

652
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: It feels like. I gotta clarify that.

653
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: How do I say it? They got me why I

654
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: can't say it, Like, how do I do it? But

655
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: while I'm going through this, they think I stand for

656
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: that I don't want nothing to happen to the homie,

657
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: but I gotta take control over my narrative. I've been

658
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: silent for two years. Thug never mentioned Thug, not one

659
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: time mentioned that he was gonna tell the contract. He's

660
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: got too much invested. If I was Thug, I would

661
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: even take the options on the contract because you invested

662
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: a lot of money in the Gunner. You built this

663
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 2: brand up, You gave a lot of culture cachet to him.

664
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: Gunner is a phenomenal artist. I told Turbo that last

665
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: track that they made is I like that track. Gunner

666
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: is a phenomenal artist and made some great records. But

667
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: the cachet came from Thug, and so that investment costs

668
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: on both ends. It cost me my time and energy

669
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: effort is sometimes my money. But it's damn sure gonna

670
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: cost you a percentage of whatever it is you got

671
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: coming in because what I pull into you you can't

672
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: get nowhere else. I gotta melt this shit down and

673
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: pour it into your saft. You ain't having this kind

674
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: of flavor in that shit you whipping up. You whipping

675
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: up some shit, But I'm gonna pull this slam shit

676
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: on it and it's gonna into some monumental shit, and

677
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: unfortunately that that comes with a debt that has to

678
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: be paid. But I truly believe that we're in a

679
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: weird place in media where you got Joe Budden them

680
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: arguing something that young Thug never said. He said, I

681
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: don't rock with you. That's different than I'm not doing

682
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: business with you again when when he said shit like that,

683
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: it's speaking to the fence sittings. If you done chose

684
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: your side, it's ain't even for you.

685
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: But this is for the fence settles.

686
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: If this was a real tweet for me, it's the

687
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: direct addressing of uncertainty of fans brands in Otherwise, his

688
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: fans is his fans. One thing that has been abundantly

689
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: clear over the last year is that Gunner's fans is

690
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: his fans, and they gonna rock with Gunner. But that

691
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: don't mean Thug gotta be silent, and and because Doug

692
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: don't rock with him, don't mean he gotta tear the

693
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: contract up. And because Thug say he don't rock with

694
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: him publicly doesn't mean Joe Budden and the Mit throw maniacs.

695
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that he's saying he tearing up a contract.

696
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: He never said that.

697
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: It's just my co sign ain't on that. No more

698
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: good luck, no disrespect. And you see Gunnar people come back, Yo,

699
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: our coat sign ain't on that, no more good luck

700
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: both of you. Again, these dudes will figure that out

701
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: on their own time. I think it's important to bring

702
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: light to the conversations happening in the culture and also

703
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: give our perspective. We're gonna watch a little bit more

704
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: and move on. We got three folk topics today.

705
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: We on file. Let's continue.

706
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 4: He said, I don't have to deal with that, no

707
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 4: more rock. I'm gonna short circuit listening to you. That's

708
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: just missed.

709
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: My response.

710
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 4: It's not because I got to respond to your point.

711
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: My response to that is he don't have to deal

712
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: with him or talk to him for his contract to

713
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: be announce correct. He don't have to have noation.

714
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: We gonna way.

715
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 4: His contract is still saying I'm not hurting, and that's

716
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: a can re resac I don't believe that these are

717
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: doing that. I think that they are lying. And for cameras,

718
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 4: maybe not Dirk, we will say maybe not A short

719
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: list of.

720
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: People that again, this is a new point.

721
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: This conversation, if you ask me, shows that there's a

722
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: very lackluster effort as it pertains the researching and also

723
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: cultural equity as it pertains to the South. Listen, when

724
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: we talk about the rat and the snitch and all

725
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: of that shit is cloudy, it's blurry, and I frankly

726
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: don't give up about it at this point. And that's

727
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: me Big Loan speaking for it up that podcast and

728
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 2: all of its affiliates. But here's something that I would

729
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: want to address. I just want to be clear why

730
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: Joe Budden is on a platform calling young Thug alaar

731
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: that young Thug never mentioned tearing up a contract and

732
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: he has been doing business with Gunner without.

733
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Speaking with him for the last two years.

734
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 2: So let's be clear about the business man that young

735
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: Thugs as well as all of us in the South,

736
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: because when we speak about that principle, we also look

737
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: across the road and we look at future in Roco.

738
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: In that scenario in which something happened, they got the

739
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: business done and they kept it moving. You can have

740
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: disagreements with people and keep the business moving. Joe, I

741
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: know you're watching everything I do the same way you

742
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: get doctor Umar Johnson after me every single time because

743
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: I know you my biggest fan. But when we talk

744
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: about Future and he had an artist from Florida by

745
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: the name of Boston Richie.

746
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: Boston Richie was on fire, literally on fire.

747
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: Took him to Epic, got him a major deal, think

748
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: it was a two or three million dollar deal.

749
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: Future was at the head of that.

750
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: Some snitching allegations came out and that Bird disappeared from

751
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: his pending. I believe that the business is still going.

752
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: But again, the FBG bird comes with a co sign.

753
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: The wise sale logo is a co sign. The CBFW

754
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: FOURPF is a co sign, The QC logo is a

755
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: co sign.

756
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: You dig what I'm saying. Some of the these spots

757
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: are cold signs.

758
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: And what happens is when you can misrepresent and that

759
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: can even be a case made that you're still affiliated.

760
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: There's benefits to go with that.

761
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: And so again I want to be clear for the onlookers,

762
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: the n income poots and the people who don't do

763
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: their research that this conversation about Thug tearing up the

764
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: contract with Gunna never took place. This is young Thug

765
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: set in a public boundary that my silence can no

766
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: longer be used as a tool, and I will now

767
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: take control of my narrative. After two years of being

768
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: quiet and watch y'all celebrate people that confuse y'all with

769
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: my likeness, my brain, and my celebrity. This is what

770
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: Thug has been going through for the last two years.

771
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: And so he come out and then people saying, well,

772
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: he acting too tough. Man, you ain't gonna tap your contract.

773
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Come online and tell your contract up. Yo, you guys

774
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: grow up, man, you guys grow up, do some research

775
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: and stop being mentho MAINI man, let's move on.

776
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: We got allowed to talk about today.

777
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: Also, let me say this for the people that's wondering

778
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: why there needs to be a public declaration of Thug

779
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 2: separating itself from Gunner again, those dudes will speak. Those

780
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: dudes have a long history. I don't know how they

781
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: handle that. I can't speak to it because I don't know.

782
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 5: Bo.

783
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: For the people that's wondering why this is taking place

784
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: is again, I truly believe Thug thinks that his silence

785
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: has been used as a tool by people who may

786
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: or may not even still been on his good side.

787
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: And so if you notice from Gunner there's been shows

788
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: where it's still been free.

789
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: Slime king slime on the bill.

790
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: Boards, and he's still been endorsing Thug like they still

791
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: have a relationship. And so now with knowing what you

792
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: know that they probably haven't communicated over the last two

793
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: years in any kind of way, but there's still been

794
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: him posturing like the relationship is there. Some people can

795
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: look at that like he's holding it down, but others

796
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: look at that like he's using the young Thug co

797
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: sign even against people like WAM and other people in

798
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 2: the game where it's like man, me and Thug still brothers.

799
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: He did interviews and still spoke like that, because again,

800
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: when you put yourself in gunnup situation, he can feel duped,

801
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: he can feel tricked. Yo, My lawyer didn't even man,

802
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: I don't even know, right, I don't even know how

803
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: that happened.

804
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: I spoke to it when it happened.

805
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: It said the correct thing for Gunner to do was

806
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: to deny that plea, take that plea back in front

807
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: of the judge and ask for a bond. He was

808
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: the person with one case. I truly believed that the

809
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: day that they brought that plea to him, if he

810
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: would have asked for a bond. After rejecting that plea

811
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: and taking that plea up to the courts, I believe

812
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: they would have let him out in the same way

813
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: that you seen that judge let Thug out knowing that Yo,

814
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: if he gave y'all a signature and testified, y'all would

815
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: have let him out today. So he cannot be a

816
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: public nuisance because his signature would have got him out today.

817
00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: It's common sense.

818
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: But because of all of the shows, all of the gatherings,

819
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: all of the interviews, all of the clips, and the

820
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: fans being uncertain, I believe after two years, young Thug

821
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: is finally trying to take over his narrative and I

822
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: believe they got it wrong on this one. So salute

823
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: to the Joe Budden podcast and the live audience.

824
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next subject.

825
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: We're on fire today, I Beat Jay Maine and Rainwater

826
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: went on Say Cheeze TV. For those who do not

827
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: KNOWY Beat J Maine and someone from Chicago. Rainwater is

828
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: MO three's manager, legendary artists from Texas who has now

829
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: deceased Rip MO threey Beat J Maine has been doing

830
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: this thing around town where he's been pushing peace.

831
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: He comes from Chicago.

832
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: You know, my heart goes out to all of the

833
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: people in Chicago as they are in a war amongst

834
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: themselves and the ghetto doesn't produce the kind of handbook

835
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: that will allow us to deal with death in a

836
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: way where we can let things go. I believe that

837
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: Chicago game that they've been playing for so long ultimately

838
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons Dirk is in the scenario

839
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: that he's in because that's what was bred and taught

840
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: to him.

841
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Is that unfortunately up through his as a life or

842
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: a life.

843
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: So peace and pushing peace is a very sensitive topic

844
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 2: in Chicago, and I need that to be clear as

845
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: we walk down this road and deal with this interview

846
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: because there's been a lot happening surrounding this fybj Main

847
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: dude and his posturing and positioning. If ybj Main comes

848
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 2: from a block that's arch enemies with Little Dirt, Chicago

849
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: has been having his shirt versus Skins thing going on

850
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: for the better part of ten years, in which it's

851
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: been old Block verse sixty third and then a number

852
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: of different songs. You've heard rappers reference that I'm not

853
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: from sixty third or I'm not from Old Block and

854
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: one Folk. You know, it's been these kind of vibrations

855
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 2: amongst these two crews for as long as I knew

856
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: about Old Block and sixty third, and so because fybj

857
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Main comes from sixty third, which is an area and

858
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: this is just from my brief understanding, I don't know

859
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: a lot about it. I have spoke with Tay Savage,

860
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: salute to the homie. I'm gonna get him on soon.

861
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: And me and Mama Duck actually had an interview last

862
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: week that we had to counsel because evidently her lawyers

863
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: doesn't want her to speak about certain things, and for me,

864
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: it just didn't make sense for us to continue with

865
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: that interview. But I would assure you if me and

866
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Speaker 2: Mama Duck would have sat down and had probably been

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Speaker 2: the best interview in the world for her and probably

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Speaker 2: one of the more touching interviews for me to be

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Speaker 2: able to show myself in a different light dealing with

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Speaker 2: a mother's that's dealt with death of that magnitude.

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Speaker 1: But she was the mother of FBG Duck.

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Speaker 2: F YBJ Main and FBG Duck are of the same lineage,

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Speaker 2: of the same cruise and clicks and neighborhoods and things

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Speaker 2: of that nature, and that's their crew.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: FYBJ Maine has found himself in a scenario where he's

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Speaker 2: done well for himself online and he's kind of blew up,

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Speaker 2: and so he's been pushing peace.

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Speaker 1: The Dirk hit him.

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Speaker 2: The Dirk hit him and had him come out at

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Speaker 2: the United Center in Chicago. It was a big look

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Speaker 2: for him with the push and the peace talk. As

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Speaker 2: you know, before Dirk was arrested, he had when Muslim

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Speaker 2: and was kind of trying to change his perception and

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Speaker 2: imagery in the public eye to show him that he

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Speaker 2: is making a change for the for the right reasons.

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Speaker 1: And this conversation comes.

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Speaker 2: Up about whether or not it was genuine. Did Dirk

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Speaker 2: know the fairs would come in? Like this is long

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Speaker 2: conversation about what if?

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Speaker 1: What if? What if? What if?

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Speaker 2: I want to talk today about f yb Jmain, Little

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Speaker 2: Dirk and this conversation that they've had on Sat Cheese

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Speaker 2: with Multre's manager Rainwater.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot to get into, oh for people who

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Speaker 1: do not know who these gentlemen is.

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Speaker 2: So what we're about to look at is fyb Jmaine

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Speaker 2: and Rainwater speak about f yb Jmain going on stage

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Speaker 2: with Little Dirk, who is quote unquote his opposition is

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Speaker 2: f yb J Main chasing Cloud or is he genuine

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Speaker 2: pay attention rotation?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Man, this Wallow two six seventyere now tuned into it

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Speaker 2: up there podcast Man with my Man loom Man.

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Speaker 1: Check him out.