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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, November seventeenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, episode
Speaker 1: number sixty three. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: It is founder day for the Omega So a little
Speaker 1: shout out to the broad shout out to the as
Speaker 1: we as we get this show flowing, Nick, give me
Speaker 1: a sixty three and I stretching, guy, it's time him started.
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in a move. Clarence wears that. Clarence
Speaker 1: Hill wears Omega stuff all the time anyway, but he
Speaker 1: was decked out today when he came full it makes
Speaker 1: a lot more sense all of a sudden. Sixty sixty,
Speaker 1: give me sixty three. Kyle Kosher, I like that underrated
Speaker 1: guard in my opinion. Oh yeah, he was like the
Speaker 1: worst worst lineman of the starting five, and he was
Speaker 1: like really good. Yeah, that was a good good player
Speaker 1: with three Pro bowlers and him and Colombo. I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of other sixty threes, Tyler, be honest.
Speaker 1: Bye it is yeah bye bye bye is Glenn Titans, Sir,
Speaker 1: there's a player back in the eight. Never heard that.
Speaker 1: Never heard of Glenn Titans or GTT No, I haven't
Speaker 1: heard him. See, Like, when you throw out a number,
Speaker 1: the first thing that I do automatically is just go
Speaker 1: back to the ninth nineteen eighty three, eighty four teams
Speaker 1: when I was like seven and eight. That was. That's
Speaker 1: one thing. I could just give you a number that.
Speaker 1: But I don't always want to do that. I want
Speaker 1: to mix it up a little bit. But sixty three
Speaker 1: Glenn Titans or yesterday I had to do with Brian Baldinger. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I learned something. Yes, Yeah, what about Aaron Gibson Big
Speaker 1: his head was biggest came from the from the Lions
Speaker 1: five pounds or something. It was like four hundred pounds,
Speaker 1: and they they had to just give the Lions had
Speaker 1: to ship their helmet over and they and luckily they
Speaker 1: didn't have to do a lot of changing of the
Speaker 1: paint schemes and all that stuff. But yeah, he had
Speaker 1: the biggest head ever and they were like, well, we gotta,
Speaker 1: we gotta figure this out. We gotta we don't have
Speaker 1: a helmet like that the last It wasn't Mike's here
Speaker 1: that long, I think for the Desperadoes at one point,
Speaker 1: but he probably had that same helmet. Jeez. All right, dude,
Speaker 1: all right, um, let's let's talk some injuries. We got
Speaker 1: a few guys we need to catch up on Tyren Smith.
Speaker 1: He's now missed two games games and uh and but
Speaker 1: it sounds like there's a possibility he may be back
Speaker 1: this week. Possible. Yeah, well, yeah, we'll stick with possible.
Speaker 1: Stephen Stephen Jones gave him a glowing review on Monday.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, add him to the list of
Speaker 1: people who might be able, who should be able to play,
Speaker 1: And Jerry Jones says, yeah, I agree with that. We
Speaker 1: get this interview, He's like, I get yeah. He's like,
Speaker 1: I get the same report as Stephen does, so yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: they feel good. He's gonna he's gonna be involved in
Speaker 1: the individual you know, the early portion of practice before
Speaker 1: you get into the team reps um. McCarthy said they'll
Speaker 1: evaluate him to see if he does more kind of
Speaker 1: feel like McCarthy just says that to make everybody feel better. Like,
Speaker 1: so I doubt, I doubt he'll do a ton in
Speaker 1: team today, but I guess we don't know that for sure.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he'll be He'll be out there, he'll be
Speaker 1: practicing any idea what he has to do this week
Speaker 1: in order to pet I assume they have some kind
Speaker 1: of threshold where they say, okay, he's ready to go,
Speaker 1: get into the team period, whether it's today or tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Do tackle things, go against a rush and feel okay
Speaker 1: doing it? Feel okay on Friday? Yeah, let mean do
Speaker 1: it Thursday, feel okay on Friday. What's your sense when
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones says on Monday like he's got a real shot,
Speaker 1: add him to the list of guys who should be
Speaker 1: able to step up and go I'm gonna rock with that.
Speaker 1: This is a huge game, absolutely playing the chefs. You
Speaker 1: gotta go out there, and that's went over a lot
Speaker 1: of people. I don't I know you guys probably do,
Speaker 1: but I think it's some some people that probably went
Speaker 1: over the all time great commercial. It was all time.
Speaker 1: That's great commercial. Absolutely, what were you saying, Amber, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say that if that comment had come from
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, initially we would have been like, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: let's not get so excited because we know he's very,
Speaker 1: very optimistic. That's what makes it funny and encouraging. Like
Speaker 1: Stevens not usually, Steven's pretty good about not giving stuff away.
Speaker 1: He plays a little closer to the chess than Jerry does,
Speaker 1: and he's just like, yeah, he's gonna play, so I'm
Speaker 1: I'm taking that to the bank. If he doesn't play,
Speaker 1: I'll be surprised. All right, good talking about Seedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: He did get hurt in the game, it didn't seem
Speaker 1: like it was a huge deal. Seemed like they were
Speaker 1: kind of pulling starters at that point. Anyway, what are
Speaker 1: we hearing about him? It was a boo boo I
Speaker 1: think like, no, I'm not like making fun of CD Lamb.
Speaker 1: I'm just that's a he bruised his arm. He said
Speaker 1: it was nagging at him and it hurt. But like,
Speaker 1: if the game was close, he wouldn't have I don't
Speaker 1: think he would have sat. So for going forward, we
Speaker 1: should be I don't nobody even asked McCarthy about it
Speaker 1: today because it's just a foregone injury as well, it
Speaker 1: sounds like he was additioning out more pain than than
Speaker 1: delivering it, you know, or getting you know. He yeah,
Speaker 1: seriously headbudded Dak in the face. That's pretty funny. Actually
Speaker 1: that's for everybody but Dak. Yeah, I mean he laughed, Dak.
Speaker 1: I mean some inside the NFL got him miked up.
Speaker 1: He was kind of laughing like cheez, CD, thanks man
Speaker 1: of them. That's cool that they able to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought somebody had kind of poked him, you know,
Speaker 1: like after in the postgame press conference, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: happened is I'm thinking somebody poked him and didn't know
Speaker 1: it was like his own teammates. That's a tough, real
Speaker 1: quick point about CD. He's a tough so yeah he
Speaker 1: I mean, if I think he used a different if
Speaker 1: if Dave can can that was a really good one,
Speaker 1: by the way, No, it was not didn't even do it.
Speaker 1: I saw all of our lives flash before my eyes
Speaker 1: as he did that. What's so funny is just like
Speaker 1: like a week ago, somebody even asked me, how do
Speaker 1: y'all what do y'all do when you when y'all drop
Speaker 1: the F bomb. I was like, we don't, we just
Speaker 1: don't do it. Yeah, and then until but yeah, he
Speaker 1: was always the first time he's that probably wasn't the
Speaker 1: first time. But real quick, real quick about CD. It's
Speaker 1: just a great example of like and that's minor, but
Speaker 1: when we talk about players are always dealing with something
Speaker 1: that only gets reported because he sits out for the
Speaker 1: rest of the game and it gets called up to
Speaker 1: the press box, like and we noticed it. We noticed
Speaker 1: when he left the field kind of moving his arm
Speaker 1: with that happens like six times a game. But the
Speaker 1: guy goes back in because it's a close game and
Speaker 1: you have to. That's what we're saying. When you're like,
Speaker 1: everybody's dealing with something in November CD that it probably
Speaker 1: still but it's not going to keep him out of
Speaker 1: the game, you know. But I think the thing to
Speaker 1: remember too is that that's also the nature of football players.
Speaker 1: When there are adrenalines pumping, sometimes they can do things
Speaker 1: that then when it stops, they're like, oh gosh, this
Speaker 1: is not this is a real injury. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think about Robert Woods out in LA They said he
Speaker 1: tore his ACL, he continued with practice, he did his
Speaker 1: post game, I mean, his post practice interview with the media.
Speaker 1: Then later they did some tests on it and found
Speaker 1: out he had torn his ACL. Like that's where you're like,
Speaker 1: it's it's just these guys are a different breed. They
Speaker 1: just aren't normal human beings when it comes to pain tolerance.
Speaker 1: And so that's why you have to at least ask
Speaker 1: the question, is this something more? Because you just never
Speaker 1: know if it's something more once that adrenaline stops pumping.
Speaker 1: All Right, a couple of guys that we want to
Speaker 1: talk about from the standpoint of returning to the lineup,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, Nevill Gallimore. How far are we awaigh on
Speaker 1: those guys and getting them back out there? This is
Speaker 1: this is becoming a subplot, and I totally under stand why,
Speaker 1: especially in the case of Neville Neville Gallimore, because he
Speaker 1: hyper extends his elbow on like August fourteenth, it's Thanksgiving basically,
Speaker 1: it's it's been so it's been three months, yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's not His practice window hasn't started, and people are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, did he have a setback? Is something
Speaker 1: terribly wrong? Where the hell is this guy he hasn't
Speaker 1: had a setback. I think he's out there every day
Speaker 1: rehabbing and doing the stuff that he's supposed to do.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a case of an injury that
Speaker 1: drastically affects the position that he plays. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he's had a setback,
Speaker 1: but I'm not one hundred percent sure that he hasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a long window, right, I thought,
Speaker 1: then they say that's no, it's eight weeks. It was
Speaker 1: it will but that's I feel like eight weeks, but
Speaker 1: people people here six to eight and then you hope
Speaker 1: for the best. So you're straight for a punter. You're
Speaker 1: leaning heavily on that six. Yeah, And I guess you're right.
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure that he hasn't had a setback,
Speaker 1: but I think this is just a case where you
Speaker 1: need your arm strength to do that job. It's not
Speaker 1: something that you can gut through like maybe, um, who's
Speaker 1: a guy that doesn't necessarily need full safe Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you need that leverage. And McCarthy has talked to us
Speaker 1: about this, where it's like you can see him hitting
Speaker 1: the sled and you just know that the arm strength
Speaker 1: isn't where it needs to be to get into a
Speaker 1: game and be useful. I get that that's frustrating, but
Speaker 1: this is weird too, because, like y'all correct me if
Speaker 1: you think I'm wrong, it feels like we're kind of
Speaker 1: close to the end of the season right in your mind.
Speaker 1: Does it kind of feel that way? Yeah, when you
Speaker 1: when you start getting to Thanksgiving? Yeah, yeah, there's eight
Speaker 1: games left to play. We're halfway through. They are at
Speaker 1: the halfway, but it just kind of feels in my
Speaker 1: mind like you're like a month away because the December
Speaker 1: is the end of the season, but they go two
Speaker 1: weeks into January this year because of the seventeenth game.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of football, and so I get that
Speaker 1: it's frustrating, but I don't think it's a huge deal.
Speaker 1: And I think I don't think you're going to see
Speaker 1: the markets or Gallimore until December probably, But even then,
Speaker 1: you're talking about having him for five or six games maybe,
Speaker 1: do you think? I mean, how do you? Because last
Speaker 1: year it was exciting the things that we got to
Speaker 1: see from him, but then with him being out this long,
Speaker 1: do you guys see it like really affecting kind of
Speaker 1: his improvement that he was already doing and him taking
Speaker 1: him maybe a couple of weeks to even I mean,
Speaker 1: my point is like he's been out this long, then
Speaker 1: he comes back, let's say December, and then even then
Speaker 1: you're not really getting much use out of him because
Speaker 1: it's kind of taking him a while to get that
Speaker 1: rost of himself. So at that point, what January is
Speaker 1: when you're really getting good use out of him? Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't need him, that's the great part, right, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's so many guys playing defensive tackle. I'm playing
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Well, you don't need him, so whatever he
Speaker 1: can give you at that point is kind of gravy. Right,
Speaker 1: That's that's where I'm at. If no one else gets injured,
Speaker 1: good point of course, at this point of the season,
Speaker 1: that's when that starts happening. I'm not trying to spin
Speaker 1: it as this positive that these guys aren't available, but
Speaker 1: it at least is fun to think. Let's let's so
Speaker 1: we we said Thanksgiving, right, initially, we we know that's
Speaker 1: not happening, and now I'm even so I'm thinking like
Speaker 1: December twelfth, December nineteenth, those are for both of them.
Speaker 1: Probably no, I see, Um, you know, if you could
Speaker 1: look out the window and see Tank, You're like, you know,
Speaker 1: I would imagine you'd see someone that looks pretty good,
Speaker 1: pretty good, like I've seen worse. You've had just this
Speaker 1: premonition if you could see if you could see him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's like he's working out and in shape,
Speaker 1: and I think he Yeah, I've had that same dream, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like his footwork looks good for a guy that broke
Speaker 1: his foot, if you could see him, probably look better
Speaker 1: than the guy that's probably out there rehabbing with him
Speaker 1: and is going to play on Sunday. I'm getting a
Speaker 1: little crazy here, d law. I didn't have that dream base.
Speaker 1: Let me go back, let me go back to Galimar. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I woke up, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. After that he lost. Yeah, um, I think
Speaker 1: Gallimar though, you know, you're like, well, you don't really
Speaker 1: need him, Like like forty three to three was was nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're only about twelve days removed from like the Bronco
Speaker 1: Bronco Nagurski just running through them and all that, so
Speaker 1: somebody was needed there. It was getting the ass kicked
Speaker 1: on that d line. So I'm just saying, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they could show up the running game a little bit more.
Speaker 1: There's been some time, especially when you get a team
Speaker 1: that really likes to do that. So I'm not sure
Speaker 1: he's the guy to do it, but I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody has needed him, urban you know, somebody coming back.
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I don't I don't want to say
Speaker 1: they don't need him, but I do the fun thing
Speaker 1: for me, you'd love to have both of them back
Speaker 1: a sap. But again, let's just say December nineteenth, just
Speaker 1: as a hypothetical date that they can both play. That's
Speaker 1: still yes, Giants game. That still gives you. So that
Speaker 1: gives you Giants, Washington Cardinals, Eagles. That gives you a
Speaker 1: month of games. Did you say bye? Yeah after that? Okay,
Speaker 1: whatever however you want to call it. That gives you
Speaker 1: a month of games. And then what's the end goal
Speaker 1: for this team, the playoffs. So now you get four
Speaker 1: games to round those guys into form and get humming
Speaker 1: as you get into what matters where like this is
Speaker 1: this is unusual territory for the Cowboys because even in
Speaker 1: eighteen they were trying to catch up, they were trying
Speaker 1: to gain ground because they started three and five. This
Speaker 1: is a weird situation where, yeah, all these games are
Speaker 1: important and you gotta win them, but you can kind
Speaker 1: of you have that target in mind of like we're
Speaker 1: not trying to make the playoffs. We are in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and we gotta get ready for those games, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that makes people uncomfortable, but that's
Speaker 1: where this team's thought process. But the thing is is
Speaker 1: these four or five games in a row are tough.
Speaker 1: Like this is going to be the toughest stretch right here,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to that a little bit more
Speaker 1: as we go through the week and talk about Kansas City.
Speaker 1: They've gotten to this point without those guys, so like,
Speaker 1: it's again, it's it's not the situation where like we
Speaker 1: need you back because we're a game back in the
Speaker 1: standings and we got to do this. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're we're ninety nine percent gonna win the division, ninety
Speaker 1: five percent, whatever you want to say it. And again,
Speaker 1: that's not to diminish the games ahead on the schedule,
Speaker 1: but there are larger things you need to consider as well.
Speaker 1: I feel like until this point, we've been or at
Speaker 1: least me. I'm like, Okay, take your time, It's okay.
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, okay, getting answer up. Let's get
Speaker 1: moving here. It is the number one thing that we
Speaker 1: get asked, like it's our mail bag today on the site.
Speaker 1: I get it. Five tweets about it an hour, and
Speaker 1: I get it. I completely understand why it frustrates people.
Speaker 1: But there's it least a benefit to it. If there's
Speaker 1: a lot of football left to go. I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: like this week, I would love to see and this
Speaker 1: is when we go out to practice. I would love
Speaker 1: to see Randy Gregory on those chords because Gregory can
Speaker 1: come back after the Thanksgiving Day game if if he
Speaker 1: misses three games. But we saw with Dak, we saw
Speaker 1: what he I know, every calf injury in different. I
Speaker 1: get it. But like we saw with Dak, he was
Speaker 1: kind of on those chords, probably ten days or so
Speaker 1: before he actually played in a game. So it would
Speaker 1: be nice if Gregory can come back soon. It would
Speaker 1: be nice to see him start already rehabbing. It's unfair
Speaker 1: to compare, but McCarthy did say it's more of a
Speaker 1: Dak calf injury than a Gallop calf injury. Which is
Speaker 1: very encouraging. YEA, all right, we're gonna take We're gonna
Speaker 1: take our first break and we come back. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have We're gonna be talking about Buckey Brooks of NFL
Speaker 1: Network're gonna talk about the Kansas City Office versus the
Speaker 1: Dallas Defense. We'll do that when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk some Kansas City offense versus the Dallas defense
Speaker 1: they have. Although they they seem to be rounding out
Speaker 1: into form at six and four, they did have a
Speaker 1: three and four start with losses to Baltimore and the
Speaker 1: Chargers and Buffalo and Tennessee. What was the main reason
Speaker 1: for their slow start turnovers. This is a team that
Speaker 1: was leading the league in giveaways. They were turning the
Speaker 1: ball over at an alarming clip. Pat Mahomes was throwing interceptions,
Speaker 1: they were fumbling the ball all over the place, and
Speaker 1: because they were giving teams extra opportunities and costing themselves
Speaker 1: scoring chances, they lost a lot of games. And the
Speaker 1: big thing that teams were doing, particularly that Pat Mahomes,
Speaker 1: is they were sitting in a two deep shield, they
Speaker 1: were park in the safeties in the parking lot, and
Speaker 1: they were testing the discipline and patience of Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 1: And he failed the test because he would continue to
Speaker 1: try and push the ball down the field when there
Speaker 1: was an umbrella there. And he had a number of
Speaker 1: interceptions on tips and overthrows because he's trying to fit
Speaker 1: the ball into windows that just aren't open. So when
Speaker 1: you have Kelsey, why would you do that? Like? Why,
Speaker 1: I mean why? Why it is that just goes down
Speaker 1: to patience? Is it just like he's just one of
Speaker 1: those things where he just wants to let's get this
Speaker 1: thing done quicker, because it seems like you could with him,
Speaker 1: you could kind of dink and dunk down the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's not fun for them, and that makes sense
Speaker 1: like the yeah, yeah, they'd like to go to State Warriors,
Speaker 1: and to go to State Warriors from where they're killing
Speaker 1: you with the three point shot. They are energized off
Speaker 1: big plays, and so when they don't get big plays,
Speaker 1: it's hard for them to kind of get into their
Speaker 1: rhythm and get into the group because they feed off
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill going crazy, Travis Kelcey, Mikole Harman and any
Speaker 1: of the perimeter playmakers making explosive plays. And so when
Speaker 1: they don't get that, Pat Mahomes gets impatient and he
Speaker 1: just hadn't been able early in the year to just
Speaker 1: live with they to five six R completion, We'll take
Speaker 1: our time moving the ball down the field. That frustrates them,
Speaker 1: and so when they don't stick to the script and
Speaker 1: play very patient in detail, it gets sloppy. They can
Speaker 1: get away from them. However, the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: they've shown more patients, they've taken better care of the ball,
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs that no one wants to see are
Speaker 1: beginning to come back. I'd love to hear that they
Speaker 1: got a lot of credit in the offseason for the
Speaker 1: way they just completely revamped their own line trade for
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, drafted to guys, signed Joe Tuney, But it
Speaker 1: hasn't and hasn't looked that great for all the talent,
Speaker 1: at least not to this point in the season. Is
Speaker 1: that is that just a time on task thing or
Speaker 1: is somebody not playing up to their reputation. What's kind
Speaker 1: of been the story there. Orlando Brown is not what
Speaker 1: they thought he would be, and you know, they kind
Speaker 1: of thought that they could put him in and put
Speaker 1: him at a premier spot and he would succeed because
Speaker 1: that's what he wants. He wants to be known as
Speaker 1: a left tackle as opposed to a right tackle, but
Speaker 1: his game is better suited to be in a run
Speaker 1: heavy offense. Too many snaps and pass protection not good
Speaker 1: for him. The rest of the young guys are coming
Speaker 1: home well, and they're beginning to play the kind of
Speaker 1: football that we're used to seeing the Kansas City Chiefs play.
Speaker 1: And so it's one of those things where the more
Speaker 1: that they play, Andy Read gets a better feel for
Speaker 1: who they are and what they're about, and then he's
Speaker 1: able to kind of tailor the game playing to that.
Speaker 1: But I would also say some of this falls on
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. Andy Reid, despite being a college offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: he prefers the photo ball all over the yard and
Speaker 1: sometimes to the detriment. They didn't neglect the running game.
Speaker 1: And when they didn't neglect the running game, they actually
Speaker 1: pay into the hands of defense because the defense wants
Speaker 1: to take away the passing game and they want to
Speaker 1: challenge Kansas City in terms of making them run it.
Speaker 1: But when they don't run it and keep throwing it,
Speaker 1: they kind of play into their hands. Fucking mineus a
Speaker 1: pretty general question. I feel like, looking in the past
Speaker 1: few weeks, the end results of both teams have been
Speaker 1: kind of similar to each other as far as like
Speaker 1: what the defense is allowing versus what the offense is scoring,
Speaker 1: especially this past week with both of them kind of
Speaker 1: coming in with forty plus points. I just want to know,
Speaker 1: how would you compare these two teams in general, what
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are doing currently versus what the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: currently doing. Actually think they're very, very similar on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. I think both teams their best
Speaker 1: defense is their offense. If they can put you in
Speaker 1: a situation where you're forced to chase points and they
Speaker 1: force you to be one dimensional when you have the ball.
Speaker 1: That's the way that they want to play. And so
Speaker 1: both teams want to push the envelope a little more
Speaker 1: on offense so they can make you abandon the running game,
Speaker 1: and then you have to throw into a defense against
Speaker 1: the defense that knows that you have to throw, so
Speaker 1: they can put in their ears back and go rush
Speaker 1: the pass, so they can sit back and coverage and
Speaker 1: go kind of play the ball and read the quarterback
Speaker 1: size the Kencie. The Chiefs have improved the last three weeks,
Speaker 1: particularly on defense. Spacks has kind of gotten the defense
Speaker 1: resolved and fixing. He typically likes to fix things by blessing.
Speaker 1: His answer to everything is able. Let's just dowalod depression.
Speaker 1: We're figured out, see if we can get a play
Speaker 1: or two. And that's what they're living for. And so
Speaker 1: this is a defense that lives off the big play, sacks,
Speaker 1: tackles for losses, interceptions, force fumbles. If they get any
Speaker 1: of those things, then they're playing the game the way
Speaker 1: they want to play it. And so Dallas has to
Speaker 1: be aware it's a ball security game. You got to
Speaker 1: really take care of the football. When you go back
Speaker 1: and look at Tennessee's games. There's one clear outlier in
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's the game they played against Tennessee. Tennessee
Speaker 1: held in the three points, their lowest output all season.
Speaker 1: What did Tennessee do during that game that's shut down
Speaker 1: that offense? And the secondary question of that is does
Speaker 1: Dallas have that sort of repertoire, that sort of scheme.
Speaker 1: Is that something that Dallas is capable of doing to
Speaker 1: have similar results? Well, one thing that you have to
Speaker 1: know when you play Tennessee, you get into a street fight.
Speaker 1: Their answer for everything is more physicality, more toughness. They
Speaker 1: want to make it an ugly contest by putting their
Speaker 1: bodies on you and seeing if you have the mental
Speaker 1: and physical toughness to withstand that steady badger body blows
Speaker 1: that they throw at you throw at you. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: certainly can do that, because when the Cowboys wont too,
Speaker 1: they can be as physical as any other team in football.
Speaker 1: But it's going to require upfront. The defense is going
Speaker 1: to have to play big boy ball many They have
Speaker 1: to be able to win their matchups in the trenches.
Speaker 1: They have to be able to get around and make
Speaker 1: the quarterback uncomfortable. And if they can make the quarterback
Speaker 1: uncomfortable without having to bring added rushes. Then they can
Speaker 1: sit back in coverage and make him throw the ball
Speaker 1: in front of the defense and rally and tackle. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a it's gonna have to be a
Speaker 1: team effort, a concerted effort between the pass rush and
Speaker 1: the coverage. Everybody has to be working on the same page,
Speaker 1: and they have to bring their a games. On Sunday, Bucky,
Speaker 1: I see where Byron Pringle, their receiver runs in the
Speaker 1: four four range, and so Mikoel Hartman can run. Obviously
Speaker 1: Tyreek kill If those three guys were running a relay
Speaker 1: race and you were the fourth one, could they could
Speaker 1: the Chiefs still win the race with those three in
Speaker 1: you can you still bring it? And also can Tyreek
Speaker 1: kind of make up for it if you can't? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they can bring you. See because when you run a
Speaker 1: four bar one, Nick, what you can do is you
Speaker 1: can shorten how much I have to run at the end,
Speaker 1: so I can get I can either get the beaton.
Speaker 1: What I would do is I will start with Tatreek
Speaker 1: to make sure that I had a big league and
Speaker 1: then they would give me the beaton at the very
Speaker 1: end of the exchange on. So I'm only running maybe
Speaker 1: eighty five ninety meters. All they got to do then
Speaker 1: is just hold on for dear life. I can hold
Speaker 1: on a little bit, but I need a big league
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna just close my eyes and even
Speaker 1: though I hear the spikes ticking behind me, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna leave it to tape and see if I can
Speaker 1: finish it. But they are a fast I mean, they
Speaker 1: are a fast team, and when they get going, it
Speaker 1: is problematic. So it'll be interesting to see how the
Speaker 1: Cowboys practice. Sometimes when you play a team as fast
Speaker 1: as those guys, you will put your scout team receivers
Speaker 1: two or three yards down the field, so the guys
Speaker 1: can get used to feeling that pressure on their cushion
Speaker 1: when they're back faming, so they can get used to
Speaker 1: anticipating their speed. I can't follow that up. Well, the
Speaker 1: funny thing that Nick didn't say was who are they
Speaker 1: running against? Because they're running aginst the four of us. No,
Speaker 1: I think they're probably okay. You know, when we come back,
Speaker 1: and we come back in the next segment, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it more. But maybe we'll see who the Cowboys
Speaker 1: is boys. I do know this. When you start talking
Speaker 1: about fastest players and receivers and all that stuff, that's
Speaker 1: one way to get these guys on that side of
Speaker 1: the building start chirping and oh I heard what you said,
Speaker 1: Like nobody wants to be if you're a skill player.
Speaker 1: We mentioned four guys, there will be three or four
Speaker 1: others of all like hello, yeah, you miss me me?
Speaker 1: Hey real quick, you have real quick before we let
Speaker 1: you go. I didn't want to have one other question.
Speaker 1: Understand what Dallas has done on defense? How would you
Speaker 1: strategically defend guys like Hill and Kelsey because obviously they
Speaker 1: are really great, and they're really great with yards after
Speaker 1: the catch. How do you think what do you think
Speaker 1: is the best way to defend an offense like that
Speaker 1: with those two players? So, I mean, here's the dilemma, right.
Speaker 1: The teams that have had the most success have played
Speaker 1: a lot of Cover two against him, too deep safety,
Speaker 1: split the field line. Those guys are about fifteen to
Speaker 1: sixteen yards, minimal pressure in terms of blitz pressure, line
Speaker 1: up and play coverage and make Pat Mahomes throw the checkdown.
Speaker 1: He canna have as much time as he wants to throw.
Speaker 1: But he's gonna have to throw the checkdown and we're
Speaker 1: not going to let the ball fly over the head.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys haven't been a big cover two team to
Speaker 1: this point. I don't know if they practice it enough.
Speaker 1: If they do what they've traditionally done, it'll be some
Speaker 1: man coverage to be some traditional regular zone. I think
Speaker 1: the number one thing has to be no deep balls.
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill cannot catch one over the top of the defense.
Speaker 1: Make everything that they catch go back to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He has to catch you running back to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: The second thing, I need all eleven running to the
Speaker 1: ball like madmen, because this is a rally and tackle game.
Speaker 1: So whenever they catch it, they can have it. But
Speaker 1: I don't want them to get extra yards after the catch.
Speaker 1: So that means defensive lineman, when you rushed the passer
Speaker 1: when the ball is thrown, I need everybody running back
Speaker 1: to find the ball, linebackers and everybody. It has to
Speaker 1: be all hands on debt. We need everybody throwing bodies
Speaker 1: to get them down. And so if they keep the
Speaker 1: ball from going over the head and they rally and tackle,
Speaker 1: they certainly can't contain them. And then in the red
Speaker 1: zone when you play that way the red zone, you
Speaker 1: get three additional defenders the two sidelines and in the
Speaker 1: end marker, So then you got fourteen bodies on the field.
Speaker 1: Keep it in front, and as long as you can
Speaker 1: make them kick field goals, it's a win. They can
Speaker 1: have as many yards as they want to in between
Speaker 1: the twenties. You got to be great in the red zone.
Speaker 1: They do that, the Cowboys can win. All right, good stuff, Bucky,
Speaker 1: we'll have you back tomorrow. We'll talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about the Kansas City defense versus the Cowboys offense. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take our final break. Let's get back. Let's talk
Speaker 1: some more about this Dallas defense and how they're gonna
Speaker 1: match up. We'll do that when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: let's jump into this. Let's jump into this final, this
Speaker 1: final segment. Um. I do want to talk about something.
Speaker 1: I started the conversation a little bit with Bucky on
Speaker 1: I want to get you guys's opinion. Actually, Dallas's ranked
Speaker 1: thirty first right now in yards after catch. They are
Speaker 1: allowing six point two three yards after each reception on average,
Speaker 1: McCarty says. He said in his press conference, is more
Speaker 1: in the Kansas City kills teams with their their yact
Speaker 1: their yards after catch? Is this the most important stat
Speaker 1: for Dallas's defense this week? If we look at this
Speaker 1: stat at the end of the game, will it dictate
Speaker 1: who won this game? No? I mean it's it's very important,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. And it's it's been a problem.
Speaker 1: I haven't done the numbers since the bye week, but
Speaker 1: they gave up twenty seven in the first six weeks
Speaker 1: of the year. That speaks volumes and it's still it's
Speaker 1: I think it's probably been better, but it's still is
Speaker 1: a thing. And that's what these guys do. Like for
Speaker 1: all the we were just saying this during the break,
Speaker 1: Like for all the worry about Tyreek Hill beating you
Speaker 1: over the top, how about Tyreek Hill stopping short, catching
Speaker 1: a thirteen yard hitch, slipping his guy and going twenty
Speaker 1: eight more. You know that that is what's terrifying. But
Speaker 1: that's not what's going to decide this I turnover margin,
Speaker 1: I know, I mean that's basic. But Pat Mahomes loves
Speaker 1: to give you opportunities. He loves it, and it's worked
Speaker 1: out for him the vast majority of his career. He
Speaker 1: should have absolute confidence in himself. But I mean, if
Speaker 1: they can get two or maybe even three, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what's going to decide this game for me. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the way that Bucky was talking about it too.
Speaker 1: Whether the Cowboys play that you know, two safeties back
Speaker 1: like that, I haven't seen them do that much of
Speaker 1: that year at all. Either way, though, the premise is
Speaker 1: going to be keep it, keep him in front of you,
Speaker 1: make him, you know, dump it off short and if
Speaker 1: it's third and twelve and the guy catches a screen
Speaker 1: and gets eight nine yards. I mean, yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get ten or eleven yards of yak, but the punter's
Speaker 1: coming out, so so you know what I mean. If
Speaker 1: you can keep them in front sometimes that's that can
Speaker 1: be a little bit misleading. If your goal is to
Speaker 1: keep everything in front and then go go up and
Speaker 1: make the tackle. That is It's a really good point though.
Speaker 1: Jron curse is he has lived in the box this season,
Speaker 1: like they don't drop two safeties very often, and that
Speaker 1: has flummixed Mahomes all season. Like that's kind of been
Speaker 1: the book on him too. Back. Yeah, and Gus Bradley
Speaker 1: is a cover three guy. He's got history in Seattle
Speaker 1: as well, and he just stubbornly ran cover three on
Speaker 1: Sunday night and they murdered him. They murdered him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he might have been for all I'm that's it very
Speaker 1: much reminded me of a we do what we do
Speaker 1: game plan and the Nasal opponent, the Chiefs were like, awesome,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. So I and we know dan
Speaker 1: Quinn has he hasn't been that way. He's it's it
Speaker 1: hasn't been boilerplate. But I do I wonder if is
Speaker 1: it as easy as being like, well, we gotta we
Speaker 1: need to that maybe this is a scenario where we
Speaker 1: see more of the other guys. Well, maybe we see
Speaker 1: more of Mally Cooker this week than we have because
Speaker 1: the case both back then they need a guy in coverage.
Speaker 1: And I don't know the answer to that, but it's
Speaker 1: interesting to think about. I think we've talked about one
Speaker 1: of the main problems that this Cowboys defense has is
Speaker 1: allowing big place. Bucky talked about that big place that
Speaker 1: Kansas City does. But then also we've seen how the
Speaker 1: defense don't make a really good play, but then the
Speaker 1: one after that, and that goes back to your stat
Speaker 1: I think the one after that, the guy will the
Speaker 1: opponent will catch the ball and then run for however
Speaker 1: many yards. So it's like it's never fully one way.
Speaker 1: It's always okay, they stopped them here, but then give
Speaker 1: up this much and then come back and it's just
Speaker 1: like hold back and forth that I think that this
Speaker 1: week it really might bite them almost been my lip,
Speaker 1: but bite them in the butt this week. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's taught that you game, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a bigger problem than we think. Yeah, you know, Dave,
Speaker 1: I'll go back to what you're saying. I actually hope
Speaker 1: they take that strategy of give me more of Hooker
Speaker 1: and Kazy back there at safety and keep two of
Speaker 1: those guys back. But then let's let's lose a Curse
Speaker 1: as you as your nickel linebacker, and so really you're
Speaker 1: gonna have three safeties on the field. This is not
Speaker 1: a team that scares me at all when it comes
Speaker 1: to running the ball. I feel a lot better about
Speaker 1: trying to do as much coverage as possible, so get
Speaker 1: more secondary guys on the field. Curse is a big guy,
Speaker 1: so he can play that nickel linebacker position. I think
Speaker 1: you do something like that and you might create a
Speaker 1: lot more opportunity for yourself to keep more guys back
Speaker 1: who can cover and possibly get some turnovers. And that's
Speaker 1: the fun thing about Curses. It's not as simple as like, well,
Speaker 1: he's a safety, so you gotta take him off put
Speaker 1: another seting. No, he plays lineback. He's basically a dime
Speaker 1: nickel linebacker. Put put him on kelsey. Here's what Kean
Speaker 1: O'Neil kind of does as well. Right, if Micah and
Speaker 1: Curse are the only two linebackers quote unquote, that play
Speaker 1: and the game that's fine with me. Just get as
Speaker 1: much speed onto the field as possibly. If they do
Speaker 1: not win the turnover battle, do you think that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can still beat them? Can? Sure will, Yeah, But
Speaker 1: if they don't win the turnover battle, I don't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable saying though. I think if if they if they
Speaker 1: if they lose the turnover battle, I think that they're
Speaker 1: going to probably lose the game. But I mean, you
Speaker 1: could be won one or zero zero or whatever. Let's
Speaker 1: say zero nobody. Yeah, then I think the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: probably win the game if I think they're better. I
Speaker 1: will say this, if if it's like two Kansas City
Speaker 1: one Dallas, I think Dallas could still win a game
Speaker 1: like that. It can't be like they got two more
Speaker 1: turnovers in Dallas, like I can't. They can't be plus
Speaker 1: two over whatever Dallas. Then I think they're they're in
Speaker 1: real trouble. I think if it's even they probably lose.
Speaker 1: I just you don't think in an even turnover game
Speaker 1: where they literally end up in a shootout back and forth,
Speaker 1: you don't think Dallas can win that game. I didn't
Speaker 1: say they can't. You don't think they will? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just when you go into hostile environments against teams like this.
Speaker 1: I know it's just one game, but they seem like
Speaker 1: they're kind of rounding into form, Like they seem like
Speaker 1: they're playing a little bit better. What we talked about
Speaker 1: in the first segment about like kind of starting to
Speaker 1: hum in December. They know what that's all about, Like
Speaker 1: they know what putting it together ahead of the playoffs
Speaker 1: looks like. So I just you probably need breaks to
Speaker 1: win games like this. And I'm not trying to talk
Speaker 1: down on the Cowboys. I think they're one of the
Speaker 1: four or five best teams in the NFL right now,
Speaker 1: but I still think you got to have things go
Speaker 1: your way to win games like this. Not saying they can't,
Speaker 1: though they definitely can, just I don't know that they would.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I just wonder what the weather
Speaker 1: is going to be, Like I don't know why I
Speaker 1: keep thinking it's going to be like really windy, and
Speaker 1: if you can just okay, Derek's like, I got this
Speaker 1: because that's accurate, like no doubt about that. Let's just
Speaker 1: see if it's problematic, if the winds swirling and all that. See,
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I feel like my homes can
Speaker 1: probably figure it out better than Dak Will throwing there
Speaker 1: all right, if it's just if it's just throwing the
Speaker 1: ball around, pitching and catch, I think things the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are gonna have a hard time stop at them. Three
Speaker 1: pm Sunday in Kansas City, Missouri. It will be fifty
Speaker 1: six degrees, twelve mo parer winds, no precipitation, partly sunny.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a perfect day for football, absolutely to it, okay,
Speaker 1: and and worry from stadiums. What's around something else? Missouri?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Missouri Missouri. I'm pretty sure Missouri is
Speaker 1: the way you say it, but maybe people think I
Speaker 1: thought we were about to teach you that Kansas City
Speaker 1: is in Missouri, and I was like, surely you've covered
Speaker 1: the NFL Kansas City, kans Well, it's I mean it's
Speaker 1: on the border, and I do, yeah, I do know
Speaker 1: how you can drive up there as well. Inside joke,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I get it all right. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think the weather will be as corporative as
Speaker 1: you can expect it in November in Kansas City. Like
Speaker 1: there could be worse weather situations in this for sure.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I just I feel like I
Speaker 1: need to clarify this because I don't like the way
Speaker 1: I said it, Like I'm not trying to I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to. No, No, that's what I do. I'm always trying.
Speaker 1: Nowhere near as many people listen live as you think
Speaker 1: they do. But um, I see the numbers will go hit.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to suggest that like the Cowboys need
Speaker 1: all these crazy breaks to win the game, like this
Speaker 1: is an even matchup. The Cowboys are a very good team.
Speaker 1: I just tough to win on the road against really
Speaker 1: good teams. So just as that's that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate you guys. Joant us to be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Cowboys offense versus the Kansas
Speaker 1: City defense. That should be a favorable matchup for Dallas,
Speaker 1: but we'll get into it tomorrow too. Then. For Nick Eatman,
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