WEBVTT - Episode 79: Aaahh!!! Real Monsters

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of Netificent. I am

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<v Speaker 1>one half of your host, Danny Fernanez, and sitting across

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<v Speaker 1>from me as always. Hey, how's it going. If you

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<v Speaker 1>did you missed me last week? Yeah? Oh yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>we had fun, but we definitely missed you. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have loved some of your takes, even though uh privately

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<v Speaker 1>you've already given me some candy Man takes. Yeah. We're

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of sp October, so we've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>all Halloween slash like spooky based episodes and today is

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<v Speaker 1>not any different. We're covering a real Monsters, which is

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<v Speaker 1>something that I grew up with, so I think out

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<v Speaker 1>of all of the core Nickelodeon shows, this was the

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<v Speaker 1>one that I resonated with the most. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have someone who it's very near and dear to his heart.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a writer, producer, and showrunner who's concludes The Simpsons,

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<v Speaker 1>the PJS which we're just seeking out about Lego Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars F is for Family. It is Michael Price. Hey, Hi, Hi, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you. You have a long list of things? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one, Real Monsters Are Real Monsters was one

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<v Speaker 1>of my first so that's why it's such it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a show that I even thought about a lot lately.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you mentioned asked me to come on and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it, I was so happy too, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was really at the very beginning of my career. It

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the first jobs I ever had, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was I was so thrilled to have it and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great just a great fun show. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to shout out it was like a mutual

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<v Speaker 1>follower of ours because I I was like posting I

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<v Speaker 1>love all real monsters. I think I had a picture

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<v Speaker 1>like I have a T shirt, I'll have to post

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<v Speaker 1>it for everybody, and they tagged you and said you

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<v Speaker 1>should have a Michael price on and that's how they

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<v Speaker 1>got connected. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Well, we've been starting

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<v Speaker 1>our show with what we're seeking out about. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are you speaking out about this week? Well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's Tuesday right now. So in about two days,

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<v Speaker 1>I just passed a billboard for it, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>El Camino, which is breaking bad sequel movie that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just so exciting to see. And I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in theaters, possibly too Netflix, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I imagine it will probably come out like at

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<v Speaker 1>midnight on Thursday night into Friday, and so I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be sitting there watching it as soon as it

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<v Speaker 1>comes on. That's a show. Breaking Bad was the show

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<v Speaker 1>that I did not get into until it had been

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<v Speaker 1>on like four years. As I watched the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>and it was so dark and so bleak, and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try another one. And the second one, if you remember,

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<v Speaker 1>is the one where he's got that guy tied up

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<v Speaker 1>in the basement. Oh yeah, It's like this is too

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<v Speaker 1>much for me. And then a couple of years went

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<v Speaker 1>by and all my friends, uh working on the Simpsons,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about it, and then I started reading about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, all right, I'll start it now.

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<v Speaker 1>And boy was I so happy that I did. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a similar one. I had friends who were

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and I think, looking back now, this had

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<v Speaker 1>to be around on season three. But it was when

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<v Speaker 1>the kid uh yeah, yeah, the one on the bike. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well not without trying not to give too much away,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you should have already did it. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was like my introduction to it. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a rough one. But then like everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>so hyped for the final season that like I binged

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<v Speaker 1>like the all the win up until the pen ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>season so that I could watch along for the final season.

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<v Speaker 1>Which it was great to be able to watch along

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<v Speaker 1>and wait week by week. But Breaking Bad is not

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<v Speaker 1>a show you should binge. It's very heavy, so you

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<v Speaker 1>was like, after some episodes I'd have to like take

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<v Speaker 1>a break and just put it on this Yeah, although

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<v Speaker 1>last year I went back through and watched it all again.

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<v Speaker 1>I did watch over the course of like two or

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks something. Have you watched better? Oh? Absolutely. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my really good friends is I'm better call Saul.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Eileen Fogerty, and she plays Mrs Wynn,

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<v Speaker 1>the lady who run Salon. So she Spennet and I

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<v Speaker 1>know a couple of old Bill Burr who I work

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I peraps your family is place Koobi Breaking Bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, I was also an officer. Family

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<v Speaker 1>is We have Matt Jones who plays Badger and Breaking Bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the voices and family too. So in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we were at a party, like a season premiere party

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<v Speaker 1>the last November for um Forever your Family, and I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him are you gonna be on a better call, Saul?

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, no, I don't think so, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>something better or whatever. I think you just heard about

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. And then like two weeks later they announced

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, you know, like I said, oh, that must yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's in it and it's not a spoiler. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in for it. But now they said, like so many

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<v Speaker 1>other people are in this party last night premiere party

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<v Speaker 1>where they're all there, like Brian Cranston and Dianor and

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<v Speaker 1>they're all there. It's like, how many of you are

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<v Speaker 1>they in the movie? Are you doing in it? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I have the funniest story took my mom. She just

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<v Speaker 1>she loves Jimmy Alan, as a lot of moms do,

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<v Speaker 1>and it took her to his show and Brian Cranston

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<v Speaker 1>was the guest, and so we're sitting there in the

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<v Speaker 1>audience and Brian Cranston comes out and very loudly, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom goes, oh my god, the dad from Malcolm in

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle. And I'm like, mom, he's done a lot then,

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<v Speaker 1>he's done a lot since then. But also Malcolm in

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle, he was great. That's such a mom thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say. If he what about you? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>geeking out about? Well, you know, um, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of gamers the games listen no Destiny, uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, shadow Keep was released and everyone everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>asking if I was going to come back forward, if

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna play, and uh, you know really, uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think this is all I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say about it. People keep asking if I'm back, and

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't really had an answer, but now, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking I'm back. I've been playing. That is like one

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<v Speaker 1>first of all as my favorite on bite from John Wick,

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<v Speaker 1>and I reference that so much, like it's just it

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<v Speaker 1>was such a cool part of the movie too. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been playing. I was playing all day. I was streaming,

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<v Speaker 1>uh for like six hours today just playing through. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's great if you played like the first Destiny

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<v Speaker 1>because it's on the moon, so it referenced a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like Krota and like the old raids and you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting to do all that fun stuff. And like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people showed up for the stream today of

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<v Speaker 1>flu of Heat came and we we were just bouncing

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<v Speaker 1>around the moon and it's been a fun experience. So

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I'm back in Destiny now. Did you, like

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<v Speaker 1>when Tom Holland came back and he did that Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>of Wall Strong that was going anyway, I love a

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<v Speaker 1>good like, like a good reference that will say what

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<v Speaker 1>you're you want to say for you. It's so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was I I watched, like I know that scene,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was so funny to watch it and then

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<v Speaker 1>think of it in reference to the Spider Man in

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<v Speaker 1>the m c U. Uh. The thing that I'm geeking

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<v Speaker 1>out about is well, thank you everyone that came to

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<v Speaker 1>any of my panels at New York Comic Con. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so great getting to meet y'all. And Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>Disney Princess panel was one of the coolest things that

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I mean, it was so weird slash like.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to take in the moment to be on

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<v Speaker 1>stage with these iconic women that have voiced I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Jodie Benson has been the voice of Ariel for over

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years. Uh, and Pedo Harrah, who was Belle Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Hale who took over at Cinderella, She's been doing Cinderella's

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<v Speaker 1>voice for over twenty years. And a Nikanoni Rose who's

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<v Speaker 1>a voice of Tiana. And it was just I told

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<v Speaker 1>myself I'm not gonna cry. And I even like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have tissues and I brought like toilet paper and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm not gonna cry. But a Nika told

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<v Speaker 1>his story and started crying and then I cried. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is such an intimate moment that we get to share,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, just it was. It was amazing and there

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<v Speaker 1>were like a thousand people there, so thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that came. And that is just I'm geeking out

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that when I was little, I just

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<v Speaker 1>would dance and sing to their music and their words

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew all of the songs by heart, and

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<v Speaker 1>then to be on stage with them was was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is my geeky thing this week, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are diving into I want to know who came up

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<v Speaker 1>with all of these Did you all just call you

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<v Speaker 1>called it real monsters so that it was always yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like or we just called monsters or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, you always you always show folk

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<v Speaker 1>come from the theater originally, so in the theater, you

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<v Speaker 1>sort of just it's not Sweeney Todd, it's Sweeney or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not Oklahoma it's or it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>or the one that the one theater speak out with here,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to say it this way is Scottish plow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole different thing, the Scottish the Scottish play.

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<v Speaker 1>When I asked you to be on it, though, I

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<v Speaker 1>made sure I didn't want to be disrespectful, so I

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<v Speaker 1>made sure I like all the a's and all of

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<v Speaker 1>the exclamations. I think it's three A, two ages. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what it is. You still got it? Yeah? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually before we dived into that, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know when did you because this was your first was

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<v Speaker 1>this my first animated show that I worked on? When

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<v Speaker 1>did you realize, Because we have a lot of writers

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<v Speaker 1>that listen, when did you realize that you could do

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<v Speaker 1>this professionally? Well, I mean I knew that I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. I come from the East Coast from

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<v Speaker 1>New York, New Jersey area, and I did a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of theater and then I started doing improv sketch comedy,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was when I first realized, Okay, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm funny, you know, I'm not just funny around the

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<v Speaker 1>house whatever. I think I can do this and and

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<v Speaker 1>perform in front of an audience and make somebody laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>So then that got me thinking, all right, maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>a job in that somehow, you know. And uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when I came out here, um, I just started.

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<v Speaker 1>I had, I was, I was. I was doing a show,

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<v Speaker 1>a two person show with a writing partner, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what got us a little bit of attention out here

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<v Speaker 1>and got us some representation, an agent and a manager.

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<v Speaker 1>So suddenly I was like, Okay, now now I see

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<v Speaker 1>that there's possible way forward into this place. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just wrote like spec scripts and all that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, cook a couple of years of like knocking

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<v Speaker 1>around and not getting anything happening, and taking all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy jobs, like right in this neighborhood, in this

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood neighborhood, I had so many ridiculously awful jobs that

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<v Speaker 1>he even tell like phone rooms and awful stuff. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>but finally I got hired on a on a sketch

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<v Speaker 1>comedy show with a packet of sketches, a very low

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<v Speaker 1>budget kind of like a Saturday Nette lifestyle show that

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<v Speaker 1>was called The News any w Z. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>on like syndicated. Uh it's early nineties, and um, that

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<v Speaker 1>only lasted a couple of months. But from that I

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<v Speaker 1>met a guy. His name is David Litt, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was that show was one of his first jobs. And

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<v Speaker 1>when that show ended, he called me like a week

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<v Speaker 1>or two, a couple of weeks later saying, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>just got a job on this Nickelodeon cartoon show called

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<v Speaker 1>Real Monsters. And he was the staff writer on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, wait, wait, those kind of shows work

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<v Speaker 1>is that this is the staff will write so many episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also need like freelance people to come in

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<v Speaker 1>and write other episodes. So he goes, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and like talk to us about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>writing an episode? So I did. And that's so David

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<v Speaker 1>got me in there. Uh So, I mean he's always

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<v Speaker 1>been he was a great guy. I haven't seen him

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<v Speaker 1>in a long time, but he went on to an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing career. He co created the sitcom called The King

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<v Speaker 1>of Queens. That's yes, So I mean he doesn't probably

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<v Speaker 1>never need to work every that I was just going

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<v Speaker 1>to say he's super rich. I'm sure he is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a wonderful guy. But he got me in.

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<v Speaker 1>He got me in the door a Real Monsters and

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<v Speaker 1>so I wrote my first two episodes on a freelance basis,

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<v Speaker 1>and then UM for the second or third season of Monsters. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they knew me for that, and then they brought me

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<v Speaker 1>in the sort of pitch. The people who running it

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<v Speaker 1>were replaced by another guy running it, and they brought

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<v Speaker 1>me in to pitch some stories and they didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>go all my stories, but then they thought it remembered me,

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<v Speaker 1>and then someone left another guy went on to have

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<v Speaker 1>a huge All these guys I've went worked on this

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<v Speaker 1>Nickelodeon show had like just giant suitcom careers. A guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Steve scro Van who left because he got a

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<v Speaker 1>job on Everybody Loves Raymond. She went off and like

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<v Speaker 1>was on Raymond for its entire run. UM, but I

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<v Speaker 1>replaced Steve on the staff and that was on the

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<v Speaker 1>staff for the rest of that time. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I think I wrote about fourteen episodes of that show.

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<v Speaker 1>But the first two were on a freelance spaces and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest were once I got on staff. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you also went on to have this. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't create the King of Queens, but yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>been all right, it's been all I mean, Monsters really

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<v Speaker 1>was this bouncing pad for all these great right. Why. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great what a great place to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, uh, it was class key Chupo was the

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<v Speaker 1>studio that admit it made it. And they were were

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<v Speaker 1>in this little building on Highland Avenue in Hollywood, right

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<v Speaker 1>the low um By Fountain Avenue. There's a Jack in

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<v Speaker 1>the Box right across the street. It's still there too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the Klassky Chupa wasn't there anymore. Oh it's yes.

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<v Speaker 1>The hairplace, Yeah, it's a hairplace, and there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little tiny school there and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>some of the characters are still painted on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Character on the side of the building. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was still there because those monsters are still there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>still there. They're still That's where we worked and uh

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<v Speaker 1>we just sat in a little room, a little office

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<v Speaker 1>writing and uh writing our stories. And then the recording

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<v Speaker 1>studio was there, so we get to go see the

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<v Speaker 1>records with these amazing actors. I mean, the people who

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<v Speaker 1>started the show were great. Uh. Um, Charlie Adler, who's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great voice over people of all time. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then uh, I don't have her name from Christine

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<v Speaker 1>Christine Kavanaugh, she's the late Christine Kavanaugh. She was wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>like named David eccles who it was a sound guy

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<v Speaker 1>at Krassky Chupa had a really interesting funny voice. He

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<v Speaker 1>was became Crumb, the guy with the eyeballs. And but

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<v Speaker 1>then the guest actors would come in. The casting director

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<v Speaker 1>was a woman named Barbara Right who would just cast

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<v Speaker 1>these amazing actors so like people like you would never

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<v Speaker 1>expect to show up, like Tim Curry and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>people who now like have had big careers later like um,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy named Sander Berkeley, you know Xander Berkeley. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in the original term. He's a terminator too. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who who was um John Connor's like step stepfather

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<v Speaker 1>gets killed with like the thing through the face. Yeah, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Sander Berkeley. Has been in a million things. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Toby hass has been in a million things.

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<v Speaker 1>But like Big Margot Kidder, the late Margot kid Like,

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<v Speaker 1>these people just come through just doing like one voice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because this woman was a great woman who

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<v Speaker 1>like like these people. So I get to sit in

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<v Speaker 1>and watch these amazing voice sessions, and and the animators

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<v Speaker 1>were great. It was just just a really fun experience. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So for people that don't know that haven't heard of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how. But the show focuses on three

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<v Speaker 1>young monsters. It's its Obelina and Crumb, who attend a

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<v Speaker 1>school for monsters under a city dump and learned to

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<v Speaker 1>frighten humans. Uh. Many of the episodes revolve around them

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<v Speaker 1>making it to the surface in order to perform scares

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<v Speaker 1>as class assignments. The series premiered October at eleven am

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<v Speaker 1>on Nickelodeon. That's cute. That was a good slot, running

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<v Speaker 1>a total of fifty two episodes over four seasons. The

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<v Speaker 1>final episode air December six. So, like you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Adler voiced its do you hate? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite or like one? I hate to ask this

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<v Speaker 1>good to ask your favorite monster? For sure? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he was so he was because he was He was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit me too, because he was like very

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<v Speaker 1>nervous and anxious and always worried. And you know, Crumb

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<v Speaker 1>was the cool one who liked nothing bothered him. And

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<v Speaker 1>Obeliina was super cool and stylish, which I wasn't. So uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely it is. Yeah, I liked writing for him too.

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<v Speaker 1>He was fun to write for. Yeah, that was always fain.

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<v Speaker 1>He had those uh am, I remember those blue lips, right,

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<v Speaker 1>blue lips. No, I'm tripping. He was kind of purpleish

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit looking thing with big fangs and like giant ears,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Blini was basically like a cany giant lips,

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<v Speaker 1>and Crumb was a little roy if you weren't off,

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<v Speaker 1>he had blue like they kind of both had blue,

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<v Speaker 1>just depends on the how they were drawn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no I'm not crazy. Yeah, he had the blue lips,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had the curly legs. Yeah, a little yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like a little nervous guy. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>love and Charlie was just, I mean, did an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>job performing him. But he was just a fun guy

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<v Speaker 1>to have around. He's still he's still very busy and

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<v Speaker 1>uh he directs a lot voice overacting now, but he

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<v Speaker 1>still acts a lot and he's really amazing. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it is if you also somehow don't know is the

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<v Speaker 1>small Red Monster. He's the main protagonist anti Heroes series,

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<v Speaker 1>and he changes between him and Obilina, and his method

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<v Speaker 1>of scaring humans is the ability to grow bigger. I

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<v Speaker 1>always remember his garden. Uh. And but due to his

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<v Speaker 1>large ears, he's often confused with a bunny rabbit, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think that happened when when he had like a

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<v Speaker 1>fail scare and like they thought he was as Yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it extends to be on the nervous. Uh. It extends

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<v Speaker 1>to be nervous. And he also has a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>self confidence, partly from trying to live up to the

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<v Speaker 1>legacy of his father, slick Ist, who was the academy's

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<v Speaker 1>most renowned student. Yeah. These roommates with Obilina and Crumb,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is also best friends with him. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>to the Monster Academy and he's one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>monsters who can hear the pool of Elders, the source

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<v Speaker 1>of monstery existence that is made of the very substance

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<v Speaker 1>of fears. Right. Can you imagine y'all like in this

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<v Speaker 1>writer's room making up this for quote unquoted kids show.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know who came up? Do you? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>there with a pool of elders? No? I was not.

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<v Speaker 1>The show was created by man name Peter Gaffney and

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<v Speaker 1>Gabar Chupo, who was the head of studios. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I joined, it was already well on

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<v Speaker 1>the work, so I just came in and did my

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<v Speaker 1>first couple of episodes. But my first episode, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to remember. I don't think I pitched the story. It

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have been because I didn't know anything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the one that people seem to remember the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Was my first one, which is where Crumb got a

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<v Speaker 1>pimple that that came alive and started talking to him

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<v Speaker 1>and it was voiced by Jim Belushi. But I remember

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<v Speaker 1>writing that having a good time and that the pimple

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<v Speaker 1>became more popular than him and he sang a song,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, yeah. It was just I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I can't believe. Because I grew up as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid just loving cartoons, uh specifically Bugs Bunny cartoons.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would come home from school every day, and

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<v Speaker 1>where I lived in New York, there was a Channel

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<v Speaker 1>five in New York, which is show Bugs Bunny from

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<v Speaker 1>half and from like three o'clock to three thirty. So

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<v Speaker 1>I come home from school, turn on the TV half

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<v Speaker 1>an hour of Bugs Bunny. But I became so obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>about it, like that's if if I was doing that

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<v Speaker 1>show all these years ago when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say I was nerding out about Chuck Jones because

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<v Speaker 1>I knew the names of all that I could recognize

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<v Speaker 1>the director's style. Tell it Chuck Jones from Frizz Feeling

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<v Speaker 1>from a Bob Mackimson from a Frank tash Lyn. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and I so so I have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to work in animation. Was just I had planned

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<v Speaker 1>on it, but it just really because that guy David

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<v Speaker 1>Litzon you want to try and right on this cartoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just ended up loving it. I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>here I was this kid from Jersey, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood, like working for a cartoon show. It just

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<v Speaker 1>was a thrill. Did you collect any of the like

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<v Speaker 1>do you still have any of the real A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of dolls, Yeah, they're in a box somewhere. And they

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<v Speaker 1>gave us a cool Nickelodeon bathrobe for Christmas one year

0:19:55.400 --> 0:20:00.240
<v Speaker 1>character it. Yeah, yeah, you had the Nick magazine right, Yeah.

0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I used to want that so badly. They would just

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<v Speaker 1>show those commercials constantly. I just want to show the

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<v Speaker 1>power of our own monsters lore that in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen, you know, Goslin sixty on Devian Art fan

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.680
<v Speaker 1>art of Slick is iks his dad and his mother

0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:25.879
<v Speaker 1>with her pregnant with wow, that's a lot if I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's not I mean it's it's p g. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's well, I know, Danny's making it seem

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm going now this Danny fan some and no flash,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'm gonna try not to go that this

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<v Speaker 1>if it was ever drawn anywhere on anything that they're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, weird, weird. We have to do it the

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<v Speaker 1>the the Nerdificent episode on Rule thirty four. We will

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<v Speaker 1>do that. But also I know, because you follow me

0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.359
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and haven't unfollowed me, that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with a lot of my crap. Moving into Oblina,

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<v Speaker 1>who was voiced by Christine Kavanaugh. Um So Obelina often

0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Biggers I related to her the most. That felt like

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<v Speaker 1>those were my brothers. I have two brothers and I

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<v Speaker 1>was Obelina growing up. Um often Bigger's with it is

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<v Speaker 1>one of her two roommates. Oblina also goes to Monster Academy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the brains of the group and is very well

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<v Speaker 1>behaved on like I or Crumb, but she does treat

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<v Speaker 1>Crumb very well. There was a note in here. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like she's the one woman that treats him well.

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<v Speaker 1>Sad Um Obelina comes from a wealthy monster family and

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<v Speaker 1>is considered by Gromble to be his best student. She's

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<v Speaker 1>shaped like a black and white upside down Candy Cane.

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<v Speaker 1>One of her favorite methods of scaring humans is reaching

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<v Speaker 1>within herself and pulling out her internal organs. She has

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<v Speaker 1>considerable talent for shape shifting into various terrifying forms. She

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<v Speaker 1>also has a talent for inducing nightmares and humans by

0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:05.040
<v Speaker 1>sticking her finger in their ear and tickling their brains

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 1>while they sleep. So I have seen cause play of her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I respect that because it's very hard to cause

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<v Speaker 1>playing upside down Candy Cane. Absolutely, Oh yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think the greatest thing of Obleina and really the

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<v Speaker 1>design of all the monsters they're they're all ugly. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>is ugly, but like there's even with Obliina, like the

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<v Speaker 1>way her lips are designed. They're always so lumpy in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that you're like, what is going on here? Crumb,

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:38.640
<v Speaker 1>who actually was one of my favorite short, smelly, very

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>hairy monster I lives with a Blina and ICUs Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>his teacher the Gromble often yells at him. Crumb holds

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>his eyes in his hands since they're detached, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>treated very very nicely by But that's what I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>his only female friends. Only female friends. Like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of his family, crumbs eyeballs are not attached to his body.

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<v Speaker 1>If he requires the use of both, hay and he

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<v Speaker 1>can carry his eyes in his mouth his most valuable

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<v Speaker 1>tool and scaring. It's his own overwhelming armpit stitch as

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 1>well as using his eyeball. Remember that's true. I wonder

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 1>if Gama de Toro maybe borrowed a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>after Yeah, oh possibly, Yeah. I just remember they would

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<v Speaker 1>do such close views of his armpit, like the hair

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 1>coming out and just like such up close. Yeah, it

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a time. I mean, I don't even know if

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 1>shows like this exists, because this was also the time

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>of Ren and Stempy was out on Nickelodeon. But I

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I see stuff like this on nick anymore.

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like it was more allowed at that time?

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess that just have been. I'm sure he could

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 1>probably do that now, it's just been like people don't

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.440
<v Speaker 1>go into that stuff as much anymore. I remember I

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.720
<v Speaker 1>always love the ren and Snippy thing. I love ar

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and Snippy anyway. But my favorite thing and Sponge about

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 1>this that a lot, which is when you go to

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>a close up and it's when he was like super insane,

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, with all the skin and uh, you know,

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like super ugly and grotesque. I love that. I'm always

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to work that into the simp for the Simpsons. Yeah, family,

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>we have to take a really quick break. Then we're

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>going to hop back into all real monsters right after

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 1>this and we're back. Michael. I wanted to know, because

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you're you talked about the Pimple episode, was there other

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:33.119
<v Speaker 1>ones that you remember that? Yeah, out for you the

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>first two I wrote. Maybe that's the ones I remember

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the most because they were the first was the Pimple,

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>then they wrote one because the other the fourth main

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>character was called the Gromble, their teacher, uh, and he

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>was this weird, four legged green thing that wore red pumps.

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.919
<v Speaker 1>That was my favorite. So he's a little bit of

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever queer. I'm very happy about it. Yeah,

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he's great, and he was voiced by a great actor

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>named Gregg Berger, who um I still run into occasionally.

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>You know he occasionally does some stuff on The Simpsons,

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>so he's a really nice guy. And I followed him

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and he's incredible. He still was working all

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the time. Uh, he was great. So the other one

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I wrote, the second one that wrote that first season,

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>was about the Grombel's mother coming to hang out, and

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>we got Andrea Martin from SCTV to play the ground. Um.

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I did a couple. I was looking at them yesterday

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>earlier today. I was like, I remember that now, I

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>remember that now, I remember that now. There was one

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>with um Obelina's lips. I think that I broke where

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:36.719
<v Speaker 1>she lost her lips, but then they found they landed

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>on the face of like a supermodel and turned the

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>supermodel into a bigger supermodel and they had to get

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>the lips back. I think that turned into one of

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 1>the stories I love to tell, which is because we

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with the people at nicol At Nickelodeon

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>were for the most part, we're pretty cool, but we

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 1>would have to their Nickelodeon at that time. I don't

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>know if there's the same way, but they were very

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of uh kind of micromanaging in Wayne, like giving

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>notes on everything, so we you know, you think she's

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a silly cartoon show, but we would have to go

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 1>to them every time we wanted to do a new story.

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>We we'd go meet with them, the executives Nickelodeon, like

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.159
<v Speaker 1>once every couple of weeks and pitch all our stories

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and then that we wanted to do and they could

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 1>say yes or no. So once we got through that,

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>then we would write the stories and then we go

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>in and have these modest conferences with them. And it

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>might have been that one about the lips where you

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>know the three because carminal Blina they had to get

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>the lips back and the supermodel had them. The idea

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>was that they're going to break into her house late

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>at night and and like do like a heist and

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>steal the lips back and so uh so in the

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 1>scene I wrote in the script, they wrote, there's a

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 1>scene earlier in the day when they go, okay, I

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>know we have to do and then you cut to

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>that night and they're doing like the kind of mission

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>impossible thing, like sneaking in and one of the executive

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>from Nickelodeon said, well, you know in this scene here

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 1>on page eleven, they say we're going to hoist it

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 1>and that's during the daytime, and then you cut to

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the heist and it's at night and I go, yeah,

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>and they go, well, what were they doing in the

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:03.439
<v Speaker 1>hours in between? I said, I said, I don't know.

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>I went to the movies. Like thanks about that, you know,

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 1>so I definitely not children. So I literally like I

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>couldn't help it, Like usually you're trying to be nice

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to them, but I kind of like just I just

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>burst out laughing. So I think it was that episode.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, yeah, there's there are so many of that

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I did. Most of my memories are about like being

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>there and writing and working on and being with the

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>people you know, and yeah, and like that. It was

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a crazy, crazy experience. It was just a wonderful group

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of people. Was there like episode that you wish you

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>could have done, or maybe an episode you pitched that

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you're like, I wish we did that? Well, yeah, the

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>one there was one because I remember after I had

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>done this first two uh, then they called me in

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>after it. They were in the starting the second season

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and I got a call from the people who would

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>work to Classy Tupo saying, would you like to come

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>in and pitch stories to the new the new head writers.

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>So I said absolutely, and I was out of work.

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Right then the other show i'd been on, that news

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>show got canceled, and I, you know, I was out

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of work, and I was like, I gotta try to

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>get something going. And I went and I pitched them

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>this story and they didn't go with it, but it

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 1>was about how I think it ended up being in

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a later episode where it was a thing because they

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>lived under the source system, and so my idea was

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>that it was super Bowl Day in in the above

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>world the super Bowl, and used to be the thing

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>they used to say, like during the super Bowl, during

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the halftime the Super Bowl, that's when everybody across the

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>United States goes to the bathroom, you know. So it

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>was the thing about they would have like a big

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>surfing competition and it was time to the half time

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>with the Super Bowl. So I remember pitching that story

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and they were like okay, okay, um, but they said, oh,

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, none of my pitches went got to

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I'll never forget because I was just

0:28:56.400 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>still starting out. I was newly married, and um. I

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>left that day and it was really cold and rainy,

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and went. My wife and I had one car and

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>uh and I went and I sat in that sizzler.

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a sizzler on Highland Avenue. I don't I don't

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>think there anymore. I think it shut out. But I

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>sat there and this year, so that's how long that

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>sizzler has been. Yeah, it was there forever. And then,

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>like she said, she would pick me up at like

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>five o'clock, and it was four three. I sat there

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>really sad. Tell my story about the monsters surfing on

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the you know, super Bowl Day. Uh so that was

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the one that got away. But I think I think

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>later on they used it like as a as like

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>a piece of another story. So I felt good about

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 1>it later. Okay, hopefully they paid you for them. Well,

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I think by that point I might have been on

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the step. I'm already. Yeah, I do have to say

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>from it. I think I've told this story in here.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>But my mom used to be teased for her lips.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>She had big, full lips, and she they would call

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.719
<v Speaker 1>her Sandy big lips. Also like kids were like, couldn't

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>think of the better. Yeah, you old Sandy big lips.

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>But that was one of the things because the women

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>in my family have really full lips, and I remembered

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that about Oblina, Like it was just so we'll look,

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>we'll take representation wherever we can get it. And that

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>was the thing that I loved about her having these big,

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>full lips. It just like reminded me of the women

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>in my family and I loved that so much. Um.

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>And then when my mom grew up, everybody was getting

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>them injected to get their lips like her. So there,

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>you gons was a good representation for people who are

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>growers not showers. Wow, the joke was right there. I

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>couldn't leave it sitting. It was right there. Um, this

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to be fun because I would love talking

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>about the production and you can be like no our role.

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Monsters was created by Godboard Chopo and Peter Gaffney and

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>was the third animated series produced by Chupo's company Class

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Class Key Chupo. Which it's so funny because I'm relearning

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it because as a kid, I was always was like

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>class by goose Bow. This classy Chupo cowboys wife was

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Arlene Arline. Yeah, started the studio together so tight. Um,

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>just a power couple. You have to stand, which also

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>created the animated shows road Rats and Duckman on the USA. Okay,

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I knew about rug Rats, I didn't know that was

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>them who did duck Man. Yeah. One of my great

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>memories was that once they started working on that show,

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that same guy David let He he I wasn't like

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:36.959
<v Speaker 1>on the staff of the show yet, but he was.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>And they had a premiere party for the premiere of

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>duck Man at the Chubo's house and I went to

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>see it. That was my first like Hollywood party, and

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I went to Yeah, that was a great I mean,

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>anybody there who's listening duck Man. It was a really

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>amazingly funny show. Yeah, well, I think kind ahead of

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>its time a thousand percent. Yeah, I totally agree. Before

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the final title was chosen, which took over five years,

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the series had a working titles Monsters and Real Monsters,

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>which you already said, yeah, I know the Park Yeah,

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the Exacts. Yeah yeah, thats like it said. It took

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>five years and then it was like, uh, that was

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>what they needed, the extra magic they needed to seal

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the deal. And whoever whoever wanted the three a's to

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>two h is and the three exclamation points, Yeah, they

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>probably focused tested in it, Like the kids were like,

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>we like when you scream, Like all right, well that's

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the name of it. Yeah. The show was conceived after

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Chubo and his wife's uh and creative partner Arlene Klasky,

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>were approached by the network Nickelodeon create a follow up

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>series to rug Rats That begs the next question, how

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>do we go from rug Rats to this? Are too

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>wildly different shows, but I love both. They were both

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>big parts of my childhood. Chubo drew some sketches of

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>possible monsters on a piece of paper and successfully pitched

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the idea to the network. Well that's because I mean,

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that he was a genius, but also because

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>he had rug Rats, because the idea of ever Yeah,

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I hear these stories of it, and I just told

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>him a joke in the room and they bought it.

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I had to make an entire bible for this for

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>them to want to buy by show. You get you

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>get to those points, you know, like I think when

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the news was going around where like Lena Waite just

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>came in and she didn't have an idea and it

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>was like yeah, but she also made tiny furniture, which

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>was this like Indie Darling that blew up Festival Festival.

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So they're like, we want to make something with you,

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.479
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, yeah, okay that when they already

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>want you, When when they already want you there will

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>help work it with you. Plus like in the long run,

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's a lot less work when they can feel

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like they were a big part of it. That's that's

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>what I find. It's like we made it, oh man um.

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Nickelodeon programming director Herb Scannel said the character design and

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>all Monsters was partially inspired by Yellow Yellow Submarine in

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>ninety animated films inspired by the Beatles. I can see that. Yeah,

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it's really that's an amazing movie too, very weird characters. Yeah,

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>especially I think they said in that Nickelodeon I mean

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that Wikipedia article like the Gromble looks a lot like

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Blue Meanies. Yeah, that's a crazy movie. It's not really good.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>It's no sense. But I on the era of the Beatles.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're supposed to watch it sober No,

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>probably not, probably not. I saw it first as a

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>little kid. Oh my god, I did too, because they

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>is that the one like don't they have like I

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know because you know, there's the way, especially like

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>early nineties media, there's like stuff that is the I P.

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And there's stuff like inspired by it that might not

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>be but wasn't. There was there like thing where they're

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>all wearing yellow suits and someone's like spring them with

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 1>sugar water or something. Probably, I mean that movie is

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>really nuts. It's really beautifully insane. The fun part is

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>going to be either I'm right or someone probably what

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about and tell me. I remember there were

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>these guys in that movie called the Apple Knockers that

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 1>were these giant guys like with They were like twenty

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>feet tall and they carried big apples and they would

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>knock you on the head with them. It's all crazy.

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>We have to take another quick break and then we're

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 1>going to hop back into Auto Monsters right after this

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and we're back. I didn't know, so David eccles, was

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the voice of Crumb, said okay, yeah, I did not

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>know that. He voiced the monster under Chucky's bed in

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>The rug Rats, So that comes full circle. He was

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>a monster in that world, and then a monster he was,

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure a guy who just worked in the

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>sound department at class Key Tupo and then he had

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>a really was a funny guy, had interesting voice, and

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe he did that thing in rug Rats.

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>And then when they came up with the Monsters, they said,

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>if you want to do this too, yeah, all right, yeah,

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I love just have a weird voice. Yeah. Uh. And

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>they did actually have an official crossover. So in the

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>sixth season of Rugrats, Kasblina and Crumb crashed Tommy Chucky,

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Phil Little Dill and Angelica's Spooky slumber Party. It was

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>called ghost Story and uh, this iconic crossover. Yeah. So

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about at the break, we were talking

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that Nickelodeons rebooting a bunch of these shows.

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Apparently right there. I think they're doing new rug Rats,

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>They're doing new Hey Arnold. They had a movie for

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey Arnold, uh, that came out last year, and then

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>they also had Rocko's movie came out Rocko. That's right,

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>So why not Monsters. I'm right here to give me

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.720
<v Speaker 1>a call, call me up, get the gang back together.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>There were the writers on that show were one. I

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 1>mentioned some of the other guys already, but Mark Steen

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>was the guy who ran it most of the time

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 1>that I was there. And was a guy named Mark Palmer, uh,

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Spencer Greene, Mary Elizabeth Williams. Just we were the main staff.

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>They're just great, great people to work with and really

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 1>talented and funny people. Yeah. And also it was just

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>like such weird. I love that it embraced the weird grossness,

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially because children love that. But also I

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>think that that might be why all of these iconic

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>writers that came together to kind of start in this room.

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's why it resonated with us even

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>now decades later, that it was just such a It

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>was just doing something different that I feel like a

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of the other shows weren't doing at the time.

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right. I mean they were very encouraging, the people Nickelodeon.

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I made some jokes about them before. They were really

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>very encouraging and they love what we did and they

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>let us do crazy things and then so you know,

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it was fun. Is there anyone you'd want to shout

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>out that you know you worked with? Uh? Yeah, someone

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I haven't had a chance to mention until now is

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a guy named Chuck Swinson who was our animation director

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and kind of the main producer of the animation. Uh.

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>You know Chupo Chupo, you know was ahead of the studio,

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>but Chuck really was the main director and worked with

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 1>animation people, and he also did all the directing like

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>he would direct the voice actors. So I was so happy,

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>like I said earlier, to get to see these amazing actors.

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>So I admired come in. But then I really learned

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 1>how to do it, you know, from Chuck, because I

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>training as a theater director, but I had never seen

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>vocal directing before and he was just just great and

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a real wonderful guy. Who I hope he's out

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>there if you can hear this high check. But I

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>learned so much from him, and he was a really

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>a real sweet and wonderful kind of like he kind

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:35.879
<v Speaker 1>of was a teacher as well, because he's a little

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>bit older and he had been in the animation business

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, so he was very patient with

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>us and sort of explained to us like why maybe

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>something we had written maybe should be different because it

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>would be better for the animation. And he was just

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a really a real great guy. Yeah, this year was

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>like the first time I did like writing for animation.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>And it is funny how like you know, um so

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I wrote for season two of Ticktone, and so you

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>know before that you're just in a with all the

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 1>writers and the showrunnering. You're just you know, goofing off

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>doing the jokes. And for Takedown we had you know,

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>the animation director in there with us, and it was

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>always interesting to like pitch something and be like, oh, yeah,

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 1>that does sound cool. That's very expensive. I was like, okay, cool,

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try and tone it back then. That's always

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 1>a funny note. I remember at when I was writing

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>at full Screen, they just wanted everything to like go

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>viral or whatever, and they'd be like, this guy's limit

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want and we'd like send in our script

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and then get it back like okay, so not so much,

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, tone it back. Yeah. I actually did an

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>animation workshop at six point Harness, which is great animation studio.

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>They're awesome. They've done so many shows and I have

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 1>such They had some animation directors and I'm like, such

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.399
<v Speaker 1>a different world than being in the writer world. Jumping over.

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what you have to do now, but

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like just seeing yeah, there's responsible for so much. Yeah,

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting too, because you know there's like two different

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>kinds of animated shows, or maybe they're like there's the

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>kind that are more writer driven, like the Simpsons is

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>completely right or driven. An Officer Family, because I come

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>from the Simpsons, is very right or driven, but for

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the most part, like the Nickelodeon or the Cartoon Network

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>style shows are more for the most part of kind

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>of more animator animator driven. So I worked on the

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 1>show with Disney, uh like almost twenty years ago now,

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and I was called Teacher's Pet. That was great, but

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>that was sort of a melding of both. So it

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>was very right or heavy. But our director was a

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>guy in tim Bi Workland who had come from Rocco's

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Modern Life, and so he was used to like just

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of like the animator does it all, you know.

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>So we would write these elaborate scripts and be like,

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>what what is this? I don't need this? He would say,

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>all I need is like three words on a cocktail

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>navka And why do you write all this stuff? You know?

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>So it was a real tug of war sometimes between

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>the two styles, you know. Uh So, yeah, yeah, that's

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>so funny. Uh speaking of Rocco's Modern Life, I did

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>want to say that Charlie Adler, who again is the

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>voice of it, is also voiced Ed Bighead. As another

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 1>inside joke, it is sometimes says ed Bigheads catch phrase,

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I hate my life. So yeah, that's just another thing.

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go over some trivia real quick before

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>we head out. It is has two uv las. I

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know who decided that. I do remember that, though,

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember that. I have one last question that I

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>want to ask just and then this one's more of

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a general writing question. You know, you said you wrote

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>for Disney, and you wrote for AH, and now you

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>write for like more adult comedies like f Is for

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Family and Simpsons. What do you feel is like the

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>main difference between writing for the two mediums. It's not

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>much different. I don't feel like even with Monsters and

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>even with Disney the Disney shows, we were mostly just

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to make ourselves laugh and enjoy, you know, make

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>entertain ourselves and as long as we didn't hear anything

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>saying like you can't do that little kids are watching it,

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>um not that much different. It's just like, you know,

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you you learned to adapt to the characters you're working for,

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>writing for, and and this the stuff that you're doing.

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>But the general way the shows are created are very

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.959
<v Speaker 1>very very similar. Yeah, except except on Monsters. We didn't

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>really have a room like like a Simpsons has written

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>like a sitcom with like a writer's room. Um. With Monsters,

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:25.760
<v Speaker 1>we had mostly are we would go off and maybe

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>we'd sort of break the stories together with each other,

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>but then you just go off and write and then

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 1>the show writer would say, okay, here's notes and he's

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>finished writing in the script. But we never did like

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of punch ups like that. That's the only thing

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>that's different. Have you gotten to go to any cons

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>or anything and see people, cause playing is like the

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>characters you've written for. Not yet, not yet. I mean

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I've seen some Simpsons people, of course, because everywhere, but

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's family, But I've seen some pictures of them,

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>but I've never seen them in in life, you know,

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>some dying to go. I'm sorry I miss New York

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>comic con um, but I've got a standing of a

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>comic con a couple of times, and yeah, just to

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>see somebody dressed as one of our characters would be

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>really hilarious for I would love that. Alright, people, if

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>you have it out there. Halloween's coming up to it

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>for Family. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you.

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:13.879
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything that you're allowed to plug or we? Uh?

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Season four R Family is in the works right now.

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>It'll be coming out sometime early in the first three

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>or four months of twenty We don't know exactly yet,

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>but uh, certainly by by like April, it should be

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 1>out on Netflix. So uh. And The Simpsons just continues

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to run, run, and run, although Simpson is going to

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>start airing not airing, I guess streaming on Disney Plus

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in November and while continuing to be also on cable

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>on the f X channel f x X channel. Yeah. Yeah, So,

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and we have a new they're putting out a new

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:54.439
<v Speaker 1>DVD set, like a first twenty season complete box set

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of The Simpsons, very limited edition, like only a thousand

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of them are being sold. Wow. Yeah, so dang, but

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 1>most of them are out most of the DVDs are

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>already out there, but they're selling it as one big box. Yeah.

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And also follow you on Twitter where we became. Yes,

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 1>my Twitter handle is Mike Price in l A, which

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>is a Twitter handle I chose very hastily ten years ago.

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Everyone says every says I could change it, but I

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's just that's what it is. I almost

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>had that too. There's so many Danny fernandez is that

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I had to do m s. I did Miss Danny

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>for it, and it sounds even when people are mad

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>at me, it sounds like they're addressing me. Miss Danny

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:36.359
<v Speaker 1>fernand is awful thing that I can't say. And if

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you're a fan of us, your family. There's a writer's

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>account which is f I F F Netflix, which is

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>like our writer's account. So I I usually it's usually me,

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just me in my house, but we put up

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:51.760
<v Speaker 1>we put up photographs of like if you like the show,

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Like just last night, we were editing a show, so

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I like take a little screen grabs and throw all

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>pictures so you have a sort of given idea of

0:44:57.760 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>like how we're doing or if we do if we

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>were doing hoarding session, maybe I'll take a picture of

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a recording session or things like that so you can

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>sort of keep track of how we're doing when we're

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>coming out. Yeah, you know who's good friends with Bill Burt?

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Our friend Marcella. Yeah, she's friends with his wife. We

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>talk o'nea for him many times. He is Bill is

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the greatest guy in the world. I'm so thrilled that

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I got to work with him. He's great. Tooth too

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Younger comics, Yeah, that's what I've heard. Yeah, he's and

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>he's phenomenal. I mean I've seen him. I've now seen him,

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>uh you know, live several times. Usually I've ever seen

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>him at a small club. Usually get to see him

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 1>at like Madison Square Garden or something like that. But

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>he's amazing and it's just a great guy. And me

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>always if you want away on Twitter and Instagram, if

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<v Speaker 1>he's on Twitch, if you have Twitch Prime, Twitch Prime

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<v Speaker 1>have to reap every month, y'all know by now Discord

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<v Speaker 1>Discord for Slash Salt Squad and as always, stay ne