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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick

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Speaker 1: Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and here we are. It's time for

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Speaker 1: another edition of mix Shots and eventually Mickey Spagnola will

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Speaker 1: of mix shots. We do not have Everson Walls this week.

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Speaker 1: Everson has called out this week and we are here

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Speaker 1: for the next hour and talk about he's on ir

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Speaker 1: We do have obviously we do. You know I can

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Speaker 1: without my headset side as you can. When are we

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Speaker 1: going to open up the phone calls anytime you want,

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Speaker 1: the time you want, any time you want, you want

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Speaker 1: seven two. That's funny because we haven't mentioned it over

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Speaker 1: pandemic hit. So much to talk about we do. But

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Speaker 1: take some phone calls since we don't have Everson to

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Speaker 1: fill up the airspace today here inside the SWBC podcast studio,

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Speaker 1: it's March thirty. First, we're moving into April. And you

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Speaker 1: know what April means? The drafters? What's that crispy? The masters?

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Speaker 1: It beats the Yes, I've got it green jackets very goodly,

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Speaker 1: right yep. And so the twenty twenty two Big Green

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Speaker 1: NFL Drag Scouting Notebook is filling up all right, by

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Speaker 1: the day, by the hour, and so about time we

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Speaker 1: started talking draft over the next few weeks, you've got

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Speaker 1: you got kickers in there. There are kickers in there,

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Speaker 1: all right. There's one from McKinney. There is huh, he's

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Speaker 1: from McKinney and he went to LSU. That's was gonna

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Speaker 1: get drafted. Um. I just read about him, Cade York,

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Speaker 1: Cade York. He's kind of rated. I think the top

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Speaker 1: the kicker, Dicker, the kicker from Texass. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see his name on a list. He did

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Speaker 1: deep into I forgot his name. He didn't kick that much,

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Speaker 1: but he kick. Yes, he was good at extra points.

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Speaker 1: They didn't use him all that much. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize Kaide was from from here. He's from right

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Speaker 1: Steven did his interview from the meetings and somebody asked

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Speaker 1: him about needs in the draft, and the first thing

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Speaker 1: he said was not needs, needs, not just the draft,

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Speaker 1: but things they still need to work on it. And

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Speaker 1: the first thing that came out was kicker. And it's like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: need a kicker, and they really don't. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: there's really not much out there. I did a little

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Speaker 1: free agents or considered Michael Badgeley bad How do you

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Speaker 1: say it badly? Did I say it? Right? Um? Chase

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Speaker 1: so he's now I guess his herline is probably the favorite.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure what the Cowboys want to do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, um Nagar Chris Nagger Nagara he was from

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Speaker 1: I didn't write that down, but he was a street

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Speaker 1: free agent pickup kicker. So what they have to do?

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Speaker 1: spent money, Yes they do. Uh. They probably want to

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Speaker 1: do something different? All right, Chris, I threw a curveball.

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Speaker 1: My server just resett it hung them up or not?

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Speaker 1: I got to turn around. Look at this, Chris Beam.

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Speaker 1: if you drop kicker and you're listening at kicker, if

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Speaker 1: just make sure you're good. That's right, because we haven't

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Speaker 1: done this in a while. That's that's right, all right? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Owners meetings in Florida this week, Um, listen to me

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Speaker 1: about overtime Okay, what did I say last week? Just

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Speaker 1: play football? That's what I say. Just play football, and

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Speaker 1: that's what they just I'll take it a step further

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Speaker 1: for you. Okay, okay, and just let us throw that

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Speaker 1: this out there, all right. The big what's the biggest

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Speaker 1: issue you with overtime? Play overtime? The biggest issue, The

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Speaker 1: So winning the coin flip was the biggest issue of overtime,

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Speaker 1: play football, all right, Let's how about just extending the game.

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Speaker 1: Forget the coin flip, forget resetting the end of regulation.

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Speaker 1: how do they handle it? In the NBA they play

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Speaker 1: five minutes, but they play foot basketball right right, it's

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Speaker 1: not sudden death. They didn't yuck it up. What does

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Speaker 1: the NHL do when they get to the playoffs? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's sudden death, but it's not theirs one to score.

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Speaker 1: But there's both, coin flip both both, yeah, both teams

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Speaker 1: because of the nature of those games. You play has

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Speaker 1: a chance with the ball you play hockey. What do

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Speaker 1: they do in soccer? They play two fifteen minutes overtimes

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Speaker 1: right before they get to the goofy and you've got

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Speaker 1: Sudden death mech sudden death. It well without the all right,

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Speaker 1: but it also becomes sudden death if you just play

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Speaker 1: on right, right, and so you haven't taken away the

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Speaker 1: game and all aspects of the game are still in

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Speaker 1: play this way. Okay, you have if you're on defense

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Speaker 1: And there's and you have no argument. We're just extending

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Speaker 1: the game. So I don't understand why it hasn't even

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Speaker 1: take the coin flip out of it, right, Who cares?

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Speaker 1: And especially in the playoffs, right, especially in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: don't yuck it up, don't come up with well you

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Speaker 1: got to have a two point conversion. And that's not

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Speaker 1: the way you play the game. Play the game normal.

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Speaker 1: I mean in hockey, I understand what they do in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. It's a long season, eighty two games

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Speaker 1: and they go three on three, okay, But in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs on seven in the NFL, yeah, But in the

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Speaker 1: it's sudden death. But seven on seven, you take these alignment,

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Speaker 1: they can't play more than sixty minutes. Those are big guys,

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Speaker 1: and we don't want to tire them out, and you

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Speaker 1: don't want to run the football. Just seven on seven.

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Speaker 1: we have a phone call. I do. I have Kevin

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Speaker 1: and Uniontown, Ohio. Kevin and Uniontown, Ohio. You're the first

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Speaker 1: you guys say. My here's a couple of my theories.

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Speaker 1: next year turnaround instead of additional turnaround because I don't

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Speaker 1: see them. Definitely, we're not as good as we were

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Speaker 1: last year at this time, especially at certain positions. And Mick,

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Speaker 1: do you see us signing an offensive tackle before the draft.

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Speaker 1: Happens there's I know that the pickings are getting small

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Speaker 1: I think on the offensive tackle, they'll keep their eyes

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Speaker 1: doesn't preclude drafting a guy and saying, Okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: this guy's got to start. I think it's open for competition.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing I think you have to

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Speaker 1: remember at offensive tackle is they you know, Terence Steele

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Speaker 1: right now, if they played tomorrow as your starting right tackle, Now,

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Speaker 1: fourth round, so you've got to give him a chance.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that you could just rely on that.

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Speaker 1: So I think at some point in UM I think

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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones talked about it. You know, they're still looking

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Speaker 1: for you know, maybe it's an offensive lineman that's a

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Speaker 1: far as for the turnaround, UM, as you know, with

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Speaker 1: Cowboy fans. There's no such thing as a turnaround, right,

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Speaker 1: They're supposed to win the division. And if you look

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Speaker 1: gonna be favorite just because of the quarterback? Well? I

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Speaker 1: on mix Shots. Hello Carlton, Hello miss Billy, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing? How are y'all doing good? Well? I was

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Speaker 1: just thinking I heard a couple of guys on All

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Speaker 1: y'all podcasts and Joe Loon newses are all the time

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Speaker 1: around the star. If you could talk him out of retirement,

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Speaker 1: you got a guarding center. And then what about us

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Speaker 1: drafted or running back? Uh? I think something would have

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Speaker 1: to jump out at them the third day of the

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Speaker 1: draft running back to a running mom and I think

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Speaker 1: they liked those young guys that they still have rights to.

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Speaker 1: It's a deep running back class, right And in fact,

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Speaker 1: I think across the board this is going this is

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Speaker 1: a deeper draft than and this is without filling up

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Speaker 1: my green notebook entirely, but just by its nature, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a deeper draft than what it was

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Speaker 1: for sure last year and in a normal year. And

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Speaker 1: it's because of the pandemic. So you've got a lot

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Speaker 1: more people in the draft this year, and you had

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Speaker 1: a lot fewer people in the draft last year. I

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Speaker 1: think Mike pointed out, and these were numbers from Will

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Speaker 1: McClay that like a normal year, they would have draftable

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Speaker 1: grades on one hundred and fifty two hundred and sixty players,

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Speaker 1: and this year they have draftable grades on two hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty to two hundred and thirty players because of

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Speaker 1: the pandemic, so that is returned to college. So just

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Speaker 1: use those numbers one fifty one normal year said one

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Speaker 1: fifty to one sixty. Okay, let's say one sixty okay,

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Speaker 1: and then this year and then this year they have

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Speaker 1: twenty to twenty. That's six that's two rounds. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: basically instead of it being in a normal year it's

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Speaker 1: a seven round draft, they view it as a nine

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Speaker 1: round draft and understand that every team has the same

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Speaker 1: number of draftable grades. Well, they are the reason that

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Speaker 1: you get to two hundred and fifty that are drafted

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Speaker 1: and everyone says, oh, yeah, we had a draftable grade

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Speaker 1: on that guy, is because they're not. They're not the

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Speaker 1: same one hundred and sixty players that every buddy has

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Speaker 1: a draftable grade. Hunt So anyway, so basically you can

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Speaker 1: look at it that a third round pick, a fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick this year, you're more likely gonna have a

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Speaker 1: third round grade on them than in a normal year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I think about in those four fifth round picks,

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Speaker 1: they probably in that room down down the hallway, they

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Speaker 1: probably look at those four fifth round picks as guys

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Speaker 1: that they will have third or fourth round draft picks on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because think about it, thirty two teams times seven rounds,

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Speaker 1: that's like two hundred and twenty twenty five somewhere in

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Speaker 1: their two hundred twenty two, twenty four and now you've

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Speaker 1: got draftable grades on two hundred and twenty of them. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this draft is going to be stocked with more players

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Speaker 1: just win. And McCarthy said it, he goes to big

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Speaker 1: thing in this draft is bigger numbers of people that

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Speaker 1: are available. So and that and that likely has has

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Speaker 1: impacted not only the Cowboys but other teams as far

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Speaker 1: as what they're doing here in free agency. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys who aren't in that first wave

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Speaker 1: they're not getting the offers that they want, or they're

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Speaker 1: taking the offers because they're afraid they won't have a

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Speaker 1: So they're taking less money as a veteran guy because

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Speaker 1: teams aren't aren't offering more because they feel like that

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Speaker 1: they can fill needs in the draft more so this

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Speaker 1: year than in a normal ye know, Stephen had an

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Speaker 1: interesting comment and we kind of debated it last week.

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Speaker 1: Offensive linemen or defensive end, And as I was kind

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Speaker 1: of perusing some of the draft lists, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: a bunch that had first round grades and he made

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Speaker 1: and when when somebody asked him about the offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: where does that? And he goes, you know what, he goes.

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Speaker 1: The way they play college football, it's really hard to

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Speaker 1: project offensive linemen these days. So when everybody gets all

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Speaker 1: is he ready to play in the NFL? And over

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Speaker 1: recent years, I think we've seen a lot of busts

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Speaker 1: with those offensive tackles because this isn't college football, and

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Speaker 1: in college football, basically all they're doing is pass blocking

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Speaker 1: that gave me pause about, you know, taking an offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman high in the draft. Yeah, if all things were equal, yeah,

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Speaker 1: could they use and again I'll say it a tackle

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Speaker 1: who can play guard, because usually if you take a guard,

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Speaker 1: that means he can't play tackle. And so at twenty four,

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Speaker 1: you would consider it or you trade down. But your

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Speaker 1: percentage of hitting on offensive lineman high in the draft

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Speaker 1: these days is not as good as it used to be.

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Speaker 1: But with the amount of defensive ends available by time

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Speaker 1: they get the twenty four, there might be one available

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Speaker 1: that you can say, Okay, this guy can turn things around. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: I just thought that was interesting when he made that

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Speaker 1: comment about offensive lineman. And when it comes to wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: we've we've talked about them. Then the need that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have at wide receiver, it's obvious. And man, I

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Speaker 1: look at the wide receivers in this draft, and there

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Speaker 1: there are some who think that there could be seven

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Speaker 1: eight wide receivers go in the first round. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was. It was a really good wide receiver draft

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Speaker 1: last year with the top three guys, and they all

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00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: they all came through in their rookie year. I played well, okay,

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Speaker 1: And I think anymore that these there was a time

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Speaker 1: ten fifteen years ago that there was a transition period

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Speaker 1: that wide receivers had to go through in the league.

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Speaker 1: Now I think the guys can step in and play,

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Speaker 1: and so I think when you're looking at some of

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Speaker 1: these teams like the Cowboys with Cooper, like the Packers

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Speaker 1: with Adams, like the Chiefs with Tyreek Hill. They look

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Speaker 1: at the wide receivers in this draft and they think

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Speaker 1: we can now we may not get a Demante Adams

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Speaker 1: where they not get a Tyreek Hill or a Maury Cooper,

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Speaker 1: but we can get a guy who can who can

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Speaker 1: come in and take a lot of targets and catch

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Speaker 1: a lot of balls as rookie year. And you know

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys coming out off of injuries,

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Speaker 1: right Alabama, ye, Jamison Williams. Williams, Yep, he's not going

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Speaker 1: to be ready in the offseason, right, would you use

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Speaker 1: a first round on him? Maybe you get him in

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Speaker 1: the second. And we know that Cowboys, you've been known

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Speaker 1: to other Alabama gay matching that that also he got

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Speaker 1: hurt and right he I think his was in November

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Speaker 1: injury and so maybe ready in the summertime. That was

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Speaker 1: another wide receiver escape in my mind, that was possibly

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Speaker 1: an injury guy that made would have gone high top ten,

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00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: fifteen that you know he tours it And that's the

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00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: thing with Gallup's ACL and the surgery occurring in February.

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Speaker 1: You need that rookie to be able to come in

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Speaker 1: and contribute right away. Right. So to me, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take a guy like that not knowing that he could

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Speaker 1: be ready to play. You know, they did it with

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee right second round. And here again even with

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. We talked about it with the offensive guard.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys see what they get in the draft as far

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Speaker 1: as wide receiver, and there's there's gonna be receivers out there,

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Speaker 1: veteran guys out there who again would be able to

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Speaker 1: contribute more at the beginning of the season than a

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Speaker 1: rookie would be that you draft correct and again and

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Speaker 1: after the draft, you never know who gets released after

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Speaker 1: I took this guy with my tenth pick because he's

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Speaker 1: going to start. That's I think that's the danger in

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Speaker 1: the draft is if you want when you're drafting players,

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Speaker 1: you're drafting these players for If it's a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: you're drafting him for five years because you have you

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Speaker 1: have his rights for five years. Any other player you're

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Speaker 1: drafting him for four years. It's not just about your

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Speaker 1: needs this year. It's it's how are you set at

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Speaker 1: that position going forward? And that's why when the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: make a decision on Amari Cooper and were he was

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Speaker 1: in his contract right now, you're and with the depth

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Speaker 1: of the wide receiver class and also what you have

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Speaker 1: on your roster, your inventory at wide receiver, where Cedee

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Speaker 1: Lamb is now two years away from getting big money

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Speaker 1: Michael Gallup this year you have you paid big money too.

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Speaker 1: You have to you have to change it over. You

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Speaker 1: have to roll it over in the in the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room. And uh and it just happens to be

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Speaker 1: a position now where there's there's a lot more prospects

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Speaker 1: out there, and so you can you can fill the

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Speaker 1: need as opposed to quarterback. Quarterback there aren't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've proven quarterbacks that they are coming around every year.

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Speaker 1: There's it's a crapshoot a lot of times as far

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Speaker 1: as quarterback goes. You have to have a high draft

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Speaker 1: pick usually to get one. And by the way, I

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Speaker 1: believe it was McCarthy brought this up, although Jerry touched

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Speaker 1: on it. Your quarterback, by the way, is going to

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Speaker 1: go through a normal off season, right He didn't get

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Speaker 1: a chance to work that much. He didn't throw that

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Speaker 1: much last year to all these guys coming back from

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Speaker 1: his injury. So he'll have a normal OTAs, he'll have

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663
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: might be playing in the preseason year. I hadn't even

664
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: thought about it yet. Well, with the report coming out

665
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: yesterday that the Cowboys and Chargers might be practicing practicing,

666
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking that may or maybe a preseason game

667
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: in the Chargers stadium in LA could be the away game,

668
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: right because they get two home games? Oh yeah? Oh wait,

669
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: which was it like two way this year? Because we

670
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: have an extra home game this year, so that's right,

671
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: So two it's three preseason games? Yeah yeah, so one

672
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: in well, they just camp out in LA, right, and

673
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember what we do with Houston, you, well,

674
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: we had two. We had two home games in one

675
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: away last year. Houston was one of them. Yes, yes,

676
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: so we're going to Houston. So the other away games

677
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: Houston probably, So break camp, go to Houstons and come

678
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: home and play somebody body at home. Who do you

679
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: want to play at? Somebody? It's not on the schedule.

680
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: Gang of City's not on a schedule. Okay, let's go

681
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: Gang of City. Okay, and then let's go. Let's go.

682
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: We did. We just made the schedule, and we're gonna

683
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: play at London, at at Jacksonville in London. That's what

684
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: you want to do. Yeah, okay, yeah, please, that's not official, folks.

685
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: It's been eight years. Yeah, it's not official. Are you

686
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: making that announcement? Me? No, I'm not. It's been eight years.

687
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: It was since Joseph Randall played fourteen for the Cowboys

688
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville in London. Wow, and they've got to play

689
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: and they get eight years since they made that Rex

690
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: burkehead mistake in the draft, right, and does Brian had

691
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: the best best single quarter in NFL? Actually nine years

692
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: since almost missed the bus to go to London, by

693
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, you're right, he's outside the French for

694
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: a while. He showed up right like if if we

695
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: were supposed to leave at four o'clock, he showed up

696
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: at three fifty seven and still had to go through security.

697
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: That's why when we remember that I was camped out

698
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: outside the Valley Ranch, we were getting video. I was

699
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: doing a live shot and we were getting video as

700
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: a team's departing to come through. I do remember that,

701
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: and so here's what happened. This was funny. So the

702
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: first day were there, I plugged my computer in and

703
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: it shot the charger. Like I had no charger for

704
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: my laptop. Oh, so I had to go down where

705
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: the cowboys were operating and it was kind of in

706
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: a hallway a couple of floors below us and find

707
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: somebody that had a charger that fit my laptop so

708
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: I can steal some some juice. Right, And so we're

709
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: supposed to leave at eleven thirty to go to the practice,

710
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: and so I'm down there and I was going to

711
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: wait till the last minute to charge my laptop and

712
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: I get a call um, I think it was from Bryan.

713
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: They're on the bus and it's like eleven twenty three

714
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, the bus is getting ready to leave.

715
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 1: I said, what time is supposed to leave? He said

716
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. I said, I still got seven minutes and

717
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: and and I said, as Jason Garrett comes walking by,

718
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm on Dez Bryant time. Eleven thirty means eleventh th if.

719
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: He busted out laugh. But yeah, it's time to go back.

720
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: They get three three next three years they they're playing.

721
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: Then there's a game in Mexico City. And then and

722
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: you had one of the German German cities. I can't

723
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: remember another one. Another one in London at Tottenham, I think, oh, yeah, Hotspur, Yeah,

724
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 1: jackson Jacksonville is playing at the Big Stadium. Yeah, they're

725
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: playing at Wembley. Okay, so let's go. But do you

726
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: want to go Tottenham? No, I want to go the Jacksonville.

727
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: Can't go Tattenham. You don't have them on the schedule,

728
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: all right, so the okay. So Tom Brady retired on

729
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: February first. Forty days later he came out of retirement,

730
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: and then on March thirtieth, Bruce arians says, I'm out

731
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: of here. Well, I'm going upstairs to the front office.

732
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: And Todd Bowles is now the new head coach, of

733
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Farmer Cowboys defensive backs coach. Yeah,

734
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: he spent several years here with Bill Parcels. That's right, yep.

735
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: So what do you think that was surprising? Because we

736
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: kept hearing maybe Aaron's and Tom Brady weren't like see

737
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: an I die and then he ends up coming back

738
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: and he ends up getting kicked upstairs. Bruce Arians, by

739
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: the way, is uh conducting a press conference right now?

740
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: Sixty nine going on seventy? Okay, if I can read it,

741
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: it's very small. Chris Beam just sent me Arians all right,

742
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: here's the quote. It's long. I may not give you

743
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: all of it. Succession has always been huge for me,

744
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: with the organization in probably the best shape it's been

745
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: in in its history, with Tom Brady coming back. I'd

746
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: rather see Todd Bowls in position to be successful and

747
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: not have to take some bad job or crappy job

748
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: is in parenthesy oh he said something else, not crappy.

749
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm probably I'm probably retiring next year anyway, in February,

750
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: So I control the narrative right now. I don't control

751
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: it next February because if Brady gets hurt, we go

752
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: ten and seven, and it's an open interview for the job.

753
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: I got thirty one coaches and their families that depend

754
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: on me. My wife is big on not let all

755
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: those families down. So there you go. That's pretty you know.

756
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: That is also when Bob Stoop stepped down at Oklahoma, right,

757
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: that's why he did it, right to say, and there

758
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: are other coaches that have done that too. It was

759
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: when Stoop stepped down. It was in June, and so

760
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: you're not hiring a new staff then, and you've everything's

761
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: in place. Everything was in place for Lincoln Riley in

762
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: the in the entire staff, and you know that. And obviously,

763
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: Arian says a track record with Todd Bulls, not only

764
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: in Tampa, but he was his defensive coordinator with the

765
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. He has very strong feelings for Bulls, and

766
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: so he wanted to put him in a position and

767
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: he's not leaving the organization. He's going upstairs in the

768
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: front office. And so he's still still there. And you know,

769
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, he is sixty nine years old and turn

770
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: in seventy this year. So yeah, so it makes a

771
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: lot of sense from that standpoint. Maybe we can do

772
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: that when we get old when we get old, When

773
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: we get old, Bruce Arians though his career. You know,

774
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: obviously he didn't become a head coach until an NFL

775
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: head coach until very late in his career. He was

776
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 1: an interim coach with the Colts, and then I got

777
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: the full time head coaching job with the Arizona Cardinals

778
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: less than ten years ago now. But you go back

779
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: and look at his history. He was on Bear Bryant's

780
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: staff at Alabama. That's how far back. He was a

781
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: running backs coach at Alabama nineteen eighty one eighty two,

782
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: Bear Bryant's last year as the Alabama head coach, and

783
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: so Arians was twenty nine years old then, and he

784
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: got the Temple head coaching job the next year at

785
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: the age of thirty. For five or six years he

786
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: was the head coach at Temple and really didn't did not.

787
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: He went to Kansas City shortly after that under Marty

788
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: shot himer Um. And but he was a college coach

789
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: for years, and we then went over the decade of

790
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: the nineties, went back and forth between college and the NFL,

791
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: and then settled in the NFL around two thousand. Do

792
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: you want to nugget about it? Was eighty two. Bear

793
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: Bryant last game. I've got a certificate at the Cotton Bowl.

794
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: It was at the Liberty Ball, the Liberty Bawl, Okay.

795
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: And the year before he was at the Cotton Covered.

796
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: I covered that covered. I covered him at the at

797
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: the Cotton Ball. So eighty two and they they beat

798
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: the snot out of Illinois. Easton was the quarterback. Okay,

799
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: they couldn't protect him. And I remember the post it

800
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: was Cole the postgame interview. They didn't have a room,

801
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: so he stood on some crate like Jimmy used to

802
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: do at training camp, and it's freezing out and I

803
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: looked at him and it was like, God, he's he's

804
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: freezing and he he looks old, right, And I'll be

805
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: darned if like a month later he passed. That's right.

806
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was like in February. It was. I

807
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: can tell you when it was, because it was January,

808
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: like twenty seventh or twenty eighth, No, twenty sixth, because

809
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: it got into It was January twenty six at age

810
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: sixty nine and ages Bruce Arey and I and we

811
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: ended up going to UH Tuscaloosa because I was working

812
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: in Jackson, then Mississippi, and we went to Tuscaloosa to

813
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: cover the funeral. So anyway, I digressed, no, you know,

814
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: um okay, I was just looking up, you know, with him.

815
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: It was so it was a month later, Okay. It

816
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: was like I remember thinking at the time, Okay, this

817
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: guy he coaches all his life and then he didn't

818
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: have coach and yeah, yeah, right, so I could remember.

819
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was that year or the

820
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: year before we went to Tuscaloosa. They were playing Old

821
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: Miss and gonna play ol Miss. So in the middle

822
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: of the week we went there for his press conference

823
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: and I finally got up enough nerve to ask him

824
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: a question, and he didn't like the question, and his

825
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: Southern drawl went up ten times. Right. I have no

826
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: idea what he said to answer me right, because he

827
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: didn't want to answer it. And and it was like, okay,

828
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: I get it right. Because he answered all the other questions,

829
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: I could understand him, but what he answered mine had

830
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: no clue what he said. I was looking it up.

831
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: Joe Paterno is very similar, all right, Bear Bryant, Okay,

832
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: he passed away with less than a month after his

833
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: last game that he coached and Joe Paterno, age eighty five,

834
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: January twenty second, twenty twelve. He coached through the twenty

835
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: eleven season Penn State and then that was it. Yeah,

836
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: So it's amazing, all right on the Cowboys. In fact,

837
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: we're getting ready to tape a blitz which you'll see

838
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: in Dallas Fort Worth on CBS eleven at eleven o'clock

839
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: on Sunday night and also here on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

840
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: Mickey is filling in for Kyle Yeoman's on the blitz

841
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: this week. So one of the things we're going to

842
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: talk about, let's rehearse it right here, okay, Okay. One

843
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: of the things we're going to talk about offensive line

844
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: need versus defensive line need. Okay, which is which is

845
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: more needy. We kind of touched on that a little

846
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: bit talking about what Stephen Jones said about comparing defensive

847
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: ends in this draft to offensive lineman. To me, for

848
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: a first round pick and the money that you spend,

849
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: I think you get more bang for your buck with

850
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: a defensive end than you do with an interior offensive

851
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: alignment or a tackle that late in the draft, Because

852
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: there's going to be a bunch taken before that. I

853
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: can get that in the second round. I think second

854
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: round defensive ends drop off considerably compared to the guys

855
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: that go in the first round. Okay, we're also talking

856
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: about offensive guard versus defensive Let's how about we make Okay,

857
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: you're comparing a guy who can be an offensive tackle

858
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: maybe if he's not right now, but you're looking at

859
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: over the next five years, he'll play offensive tackle for

860
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: you versus an edge rusher. Right, all right, what about

861
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: the need offensive guard versus a defensive tackle, then I

862
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: would I probably, knowing what they have at tackle right now,

863
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: I could play with those guys unless one of those

864
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: big slabber knockers from Georgia's available that can't get moved

865
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage, especially and we're talking not

866
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: so much for although they may take a guard in

867
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: the first round, right or you're talking more second, third round,

868
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: I could see them doing that. And you can hit

869
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: on guards there. Right, it's a guard um because because

870
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: you look at the Cowboys the defensive tackle position, and

871
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: with with the drafting of Osa Digga Zoo last year,

872
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: you got him for three more years. Neville Gallimore, you've

873
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: got him for two more years, okay, and obviously on

874
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: offense at guard. Mc governor, will you only have him

875
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: one more year? And then say what you want about

876
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: we feel good about Galimore and OGGI zoo, yes, you know.

877
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: And you got Wilson that you brought in back, right,

878
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins, I said, Wilson, sorry, and he's on a

879
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: one year deal, and you got Triston Hill. Triston Hill

880
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: who's on in the last year of his four year deal. Right,

881
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: So to me, if you're looking to replace, you also

882
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: have Bohanna as a nose, right, Randy Gregory, I mean

883
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: and here, oh that was another thing that came up

884
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: in all this stuff with McCarthy. When he did his deal,

885
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: he got asked about Michael Parsons and he basically said,

886
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is a linebacker. He can move around. And

887
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: he pointed out that of his thirteen sacks, seven came

888
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: from the linebacker spot, six came from lining up as

889
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: a true defensive ent. And he said that as an

890
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: offensive guy, you are doing me a favor if you

891
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: line up Michael Parsons down in and down out at

892
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: defensive end, because I now know where he's going to

893
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: be if he lines up at linebacker, we have the

894
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: ability to move him around, and you don't know where

895
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: he's always going to be. So to Mike McCarthy, he's

896
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: a linebacker. He's not taking over a defensive end position.

897
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: So just to clear that up, because I think there

898
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: was a lot of people, well you got which still

899
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: may mean he'll have fifteen sacks, right ben, and maybe

900
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: you know seven or eight ers still at defensive end

901
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: when they move him around, But you just don't know.

902
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: Because the other thing, if you think about what they

903
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: did towards the end of the year when they were

904
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: in a four four to whatever, they would line him

905
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: up like a strong side linebacker on the line of

906
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: scrimmage next to DeMarcus Lawrence. Now pick your poison, which

907
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: one you're gonna lock. Here's the other thing. Linebackers can

908
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: play three downs, right, Okay, you get three you want?

909
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: You hope you get a linebacker who can be a

910
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: three down linebacker, usually defensive ends. Although de Marcus Lawrence

911
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: he'll play us hard out for you for sixty snaps

912
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: a game, but he's not You can't ask him to

913
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: play eighty snaps, okay, And usually he's going to be

914
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: in the fifty snap to get the most effectiveness out

915
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: of an edge rusher, he's probably on the field max

916
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: Fifty snaps out of seventy seventy five in a game.

917
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons can be on the field more if you're

918
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: playing him at linebacker. And think about this. So Parsons

919
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: once he started playing predominantly linebacker towards the end of

920
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: the season. So like Kansas City played eighty eight percent

921
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: of the snaps, next game, eighty eight point five, next

922
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: game ninety two nine. Next game it was Washington and

923
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: it was over after three quarters, seventy nine percent, the

924
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Giants eighty eight percent, and then they pulled back. That

925
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: second Giants game, he only played fifty five snaps. So

926
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: you got Lawrence there, I just shut it. Yeah, So Lawrence.

927
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: New Orleans was first game, wasn't it. New Orleans was

928
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: the first game he paid. He played fifty two point

929
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: nine percent, so half the snaps, and then sixty nine

930
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: sixty three, forty one, sixty five and thirty nine two

931
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: and that was the last game. It didn't matter. So

932
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: so you're looking at six at max sixty percent of

933
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: the snaps or a defensive end right and and you

934
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: could always you move them, you could put them at

935
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: defensive end every now and then, but it also don't

936
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: tip it off. But also you want to be in

937
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: a position where you've got quality linebackers, Like if you

938
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 1: want to play him on a certain where you've got

939
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: a base defense out there of a basically a four

940
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: to three whatever where you got Layton Vanderish and Jabril

941
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: Cox on the field at the same time with Michael

942
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: Parsons where they can play linebacker. Well, he's lining up

943
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: as an edge rusher and you're not tipping your hand

944
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: what you're doing, or you know, still you got that

945
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: Kean O'Neil spot in the nickel where which you Brill

946
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: Cox can play that where you can be in a

947
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: nickel and he can still be an edge rusher and

948
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: you've got two linebackers on the field to be able

949
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: to stop the run. Which would be an interesting scenario

950
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: if they get to twenty four and a linebacker or

951
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: two is available, you know, would you do it? Layton

952
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: vanderis on a one year deal. You're hoping Jabril Cox

953
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: comes back to be the guy they thought he was

954
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: after his age. Hey, there's I mean, there's how much

955
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: how much talk has there been out there, all you

956
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: gotta go sign Bobby Wagner. Yeah, you know, well that

957
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: tells that tells tells you that there are a lot

958
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: of fans out there who believe they need a linebacker. Yeah,

959
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: and or just because it's Bobby Wagner. But but if

960
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: you get a first round Bobby, a rookie Bobby Wagner, Yeah,

961
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: and save like he would only cost you against the

962
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: cap the first year, probably a million and a half

963
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: two million dollars instead of eleven that it looks like

964
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 1: Wagner is looking for and one of the reasons why

965
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: I think Stephen Joins Jones put it out the sounding

966
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: like they moved on from that. Then Yeah, that's a

967
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: that's another consideration. And that linebacker from Georgia, you got

968
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: him into the Kobe Yes, Kobe Deane. I like him. Yeah,

969
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: I like him too. Plus he he he checks the

970
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: boxes another in character as well. Yeah, so those things

971
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: that that that will come up. But having Parsons is important.

972
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: And the other point I was going to make, I know,

973
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: we're running out of time the Cowboys when they basically,

974
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, Randy Gregory goes to Denver. Now a lot

975
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: of people thought, well, he averaged fourteen million a year.

976
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: They got all that money to play against the cap

977
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: well his first year cap charge in Denver, and it

978
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: was basically the same contract the Cowboys had was only

979
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: six million dollars. So Jerry looked at it as okay,

980
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: we didn't get that six million, but we took that

981
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: money and got three players, got Dorince Armstrong, Dante Fowler,

982
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: and Layton Vanderish. And I looked it up and those

983
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: guys combined cap hit for this year is eight point

984
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: two million. So the six million they had for Gregory,

985
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: they ended up with three players, and that was his choice.

986
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: Although I just saw he's having rotator cuff surgery Gregory is.

987
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: I just heard it this morning when I was driving

988
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: in and it evidently came up after he signed the

989
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: contract or whatever. They must have known. Well, when you're

990
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: signing a contract like that, I can certainly understand how

991
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: you might enjoy a rotator cuff. I mean, that's a

992
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: lot of heavy lifting go that, you know. So anyway,

993
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: so he's he's he's headed to surgery. But they qualified

994
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: it as we got a three for one. Now is

995
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: the talent the same? I don't know if those guys

996
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: will combine for thirty some quarterback pressures. But he only

997
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: had I'm not only but six sacks, right, Armstrong had

998
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: five and considerably less snaps, so and sixteen sacks over

999
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: the first seven years of his career or whatever. Okay,

1000
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: all right, availability, that's right, that's very important. Okay, that

1001
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Speaker 1: does it for this edition of mix Shots. We're gonna

1002
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,960
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