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Speaker 2: on the bookshelves at your favorite local bookstore. Now, without

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Speaker 2: any further ado, today's guest is none other than Damian Porter,

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Speaker 2: former SAS Special Air Service I believe out of New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna correct me, and I'm going to guess he's

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Speaker 2: D Squadron, but I'm not gonna say twenty two. What

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Speaker 2: are you welcome?

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Speaker 3: Hey man, Red, thank you so much here, dude, New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: So yes, at the time, it was first New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Special Ada Service Group. I was a commando and Dace

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Speaker 3: Terrorists Technical Assault Group, and then it moved on to

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Speaker 3: being renamed as commandos. And we can talk about the

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Speaker 3: distinction there between SAS Spash Green Roll operators and commando operators,

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Speaker 2: Just just like with the no Gloves right, No gloves right?

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Speaker 2: Is that the no gloves right? The Iran siege and

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Speaker 2: the no Gloves right? What's his name? Hold on? I

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Speaker 2: know it. I try to get him on the show.

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Speaker 2: But I do have a friend from twenty two, but

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Speaker 2: he's out of England. Is that as you guys work together?

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Speaker 2: If you guys were twenty did you know Phil Campion?

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Speaker 3: So I've been trying to get Phill on the show.

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Speaker 3: Nice guy, Oh, no kid, Yeah, straight up. He's got

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Speaker 3: such an amazing story. So New Zealand, Australia and British

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Speaker 3: On Towo too. We all collaborate. We had a guy

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Speaker 3: which I don't even know if they're inn operation anymore.

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Speaker 3: Was brilliant those guys, the leaders in hostage rescue.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely phenomenal counter terrorist hostage rescue going after it. Oh

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Speaker 2: man boy, yeah says right, just that right there, that

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Speaker 3: You know where we still call ourselves the Queen's Killers

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Speaker 3: And the prefaces on the Delta. In the raining Tehran

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Speaker 3: Is it to So we were the Sandy barre or

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Speaker 2: He invented that. It's the silver ferns.

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Speaker 2: Job, the guy's in black. Yeah. There's a video game

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Speaker 3: That's like what we do here. We do airsoft war

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Speaker 3: and that's something very cool. There's very many loadouts that

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Speaker 2: Worldwide, right, worldwide. People want to look like SAS. Why

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Speaker 3: They started it. Man. You know, I'm literally I got

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Speaker 2: The rats, desert Rats, maybe the desert Rat.

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Speaker 2: Off of his branches. He's he's the culprit of the

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Speaker 2: desert Rat, exactly right. I love that. I love it.

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Speaker 2: We'll give him a shout out here and handsome rob.

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Speaker 2: Of course we're creating an awesome you know flash for

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Speaker 3: A the wing the winged dagger, and that was what

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Speaker 3: David Stirling, the creative the British SS invented. He he wrote,

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Speaker 3: So that's our parent unit was New Zealand ESAs Group

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Speaker 2: The weird that. Now. Now you said you got out

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Speaker 2: you're the how not to Die guy? Okay, so you

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Speaker 2: done probably a lot of fast ropes, a lot of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really named it, man, you knowed it? And gosh, gosh,

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Speaker 3: you ever do. I interviewed Greg pup Johnson, a New

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Speaker 2: you know, getting in and out of the car. We've

430
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: probably seen it or heard it or seen it on

431
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 2: your social media scrolls like some self defense thing, but

432
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: it's real. You can put your keys in your face

433
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 2: exactly to have them sticking through. Like my pencil is

434
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Speaker 2: right there. If you had a pencil that that thing

435
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: in the nearest vampot is John Wick action, isn't it? Yeah?

436
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: Right there? You know there's a there's a funny thing.

437
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: I did a movie called Firestarter Rekindled and it has

438
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: this guy named Malcolm McDowell in it, and he was

439
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 2: in a movie called Clockwork Orange and uh, he's the

440
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: main guy in Clockwork Orange and he's from the UK,

441
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: but he was filming in Utah and I was playing

442
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: the dad to the fire starter for the Stephen King

443
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: mable for Sci Fi Channel, and he has to shove

444
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: one of these in my ear. Oh oh yeah, yeah yeah,

445
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you behind the scenes spoiler alert. It's

446
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 2: a shunt. It's a shunt. So what it is is

447
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: it's supposed to collapse, so it looks full size. Yeah,

448
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: and inside of it is a blood pellet. And so

449
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: he's supposed to shove it into my ear as if

450
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: he kills me and I'm strapped into the chair. He

451
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: actually shoves it into my arm, and the blood that

452
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: comes out of my ear is my blood. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

453
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why that the pencil, the John Wick thing.

454
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: You know, there's some PTSD filming a movie. Look, you

455
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 2: know funny. I also have another I have a New

456
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: Zealand connection with a movie I'm in. Yeah, do you

457
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: know the Motorcyclist Burt Monroe?

458
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: I do. I love that movie. Actually, I watched that

459
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: movie The Wills Foster Indian in the middle of my training.

460
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: That's right, I am. I had. I had a small,

461
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: little like featured extra role in that. But I'm on

462
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: the salt Flats as an official with the white and

463
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: blue shirt and the whole time with Tony Hopkins and

464
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: you know as he's playing Burt Monroe and the director.

465
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I just want to blank. He's like

466
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: the largest landowner in New Zealand. Roger donalds. Oh wow, Yeah,

467
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: he's like one of the largest landowners over there.

468
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 3: Wow.

469
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: Just buying it up all the time, all the time.

470
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: He made a few good No, he made no way

471
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Speaker 2: out with Kevin Clost. Yeah. I don't know if you

472
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: ever saw that where he was like this the Russian

473
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: spy in the military. Wow, tell me something. Now, do

474
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: you do film or television? Have you ever?

475
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: There was a documentary made on nine New Zealand says,

476
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: and they followed us around for years and filmed that.

477
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 3: I haven't done any film or television. I don't think

478
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: I was in and an advertisement once a little extras

479
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: role would but no, nothing nothing like you have my friend.

480
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, it's all fun and games. You know.

481
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: I mean, you look like you got some guns that

482
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: would show up like Arnold on the on the screen.

483
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Bro, like that whole like

484
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: Dylan and Dutch in Predator where they're grabbing arms together. Know,

485
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: so how do you how do you maintain that?

486
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: Thanks for asking?

487
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: How do you maintain your physique? Yeah?

488
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 3: Look, I just turned fifty years old. All I can

489
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: say is just keep doing something. You know, when I

490
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: was young, I was a bodybuilding champion natural, I was

491
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: only young, and in little Okay, I was a Pan

492
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 3: Pacific so international bodybuilding champion.

493
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: And I just kept going, how tall are you? Just

494
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: tell tell my listener how tall you are. They might relate.

495
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 3: So I'm old, So I saying feet and inches, I'm

496
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Speaker 3: five foot eight and I'm six foot five.

497
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Speaker 2: Holy cow, just to give us, just to give our

498
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Speaker 2: listener a little bit. Yeah, like if you're out there

499
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: and you're five foot five, five foot eight, five foot nine,

500
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: this dude here is doing everything that you might want

501
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: to be going to do too. Yeah. Look, you're just

502
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: saying you're.

503
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: You've got to stay in shape. And I was at

504
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: the I've got my garage Jim out the back and

505
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: sometimes I go to a little gym on the beach.

506
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: I've got a membership there because I'm rehabbing an injury.

507
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: And this guy said to me, what sport do you play?

508
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: And I'd actually taken my little boy there. He was

509
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 3: sitting there reading and playing lego while I was exercising

510
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: in the corner. And I looked over my boy and said, actually,

511
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 3: I trained for him, and I trained for my boy

512
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: that I can pack him up and save him when

513
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: I need to. And it's nice. There's a saying one

514
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: of my guests say, I'm not vain, but I'm not vain.

515
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: It's nice to look good. But the way I look

516
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: is a side effect of my training, which I'll answer

517
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: your question on, not that I'm training for how I look.

518
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: So I lift about four times a week, five times

519
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 3: a week. It's main the upper body because I had

520
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 3: a broken ankle for some time. I'll train tabata bike

521
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: and I'll train the ski urg and row and put

522
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 3: circus together. But thirty to sixty minutes every day, I'd say,

523
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: I do, and that's not that long. It's important to

524
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 3: do that. And I eat right as well.

525
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are watching what you eat right. Health and

526
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: wellness is a big part of you, is that correct?

527
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, toiled it for many years, Thank you, and I

528
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: love passing on that knowledge. But it's not rocket science.

529
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: We all know what to eat really, we don't need

530
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: a doctor tail us or some crazy diet.

531
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: Book and what to drink water? Rightyeah, yeah, exactly. Water

532
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: is good for you, keeping as simple, like funny. Just

533
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: before you, just before I got on with you today,

534
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: I was watching somebody talk about how many seventy seven

535
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: grams of sugar equals and sugar cubes or how many

536
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: tea spoons in a cup, you know, in a glass,

537
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: and it was for you know, we have mountain dew

538
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: over all, which is I don't know if it's allowed.

539
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's allowed over in Australia because

540
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 2: it's got yellow number five, right, So there's a lot

541
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: of things that aren't allowed over there, but coca cola,

542
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: you know, is coca cola good or his diet coke better?

543
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: And so the guy was doing he's a diabetic and

544
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: he's going over both. And one's got aspertained and doesn't

545
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: spike his blood sugar as much. Still probably not good

546
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: for you. The other thing was coke, which had like

547
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: twenty two sugar cubes per serving, per serving, twenty two

548
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: sugar cues. He put them in a glass. He's like,

549
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: this is basically what you're drinking twenty two sugar cues.

550
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 2: He say, forget that, just drink water. But he's on

551
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: the you know, one of those scrolls that I see,

552
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: and I myself has started boxing. I've been boxing Big Phil,

553
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: my friend Big Phil from Sas. Yep, he's constantly boxing.

554
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: I saw his fights.

555
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: I saw the sty Sas versus America fights the other day.

556
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, I hosted that.

557
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Yeah, and I love that.

558
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: That would draw a lot of them.

559
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: You know, dude, some of got the one dude he

560
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 2: got his nose shattered, okay, and he's staying at our

561
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: flat that night. I don't know how many of the

562
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: guys wanted to keep going out. We were like east

563
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: Side London and like, hey, it's three in the morning,

564
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: now let's go out. And is like I think I

565
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: should go to the doctor. And I was like, we're

566
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: in a foreign country. We're American veterans that are beat up.

567
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: Why in a hospital? This is not our war today.

568
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: You got to suck this up on the plane ride tomorrow. So,

569
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: you know, it does scramble you a little bit. These

570
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: guys are hard, and you know, dudes that the essays

571
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: guys were bigger than the Navy Seal guys. Yeah, we

572
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: had a Delta Force guy, Travis Kraus was there. And

573
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: then boy, all their names Delgado. Now he's a big

574
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: dude for Marine Recon. And when those two were fighting,

575
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: that's right, Jason Delgatta, that's right to give him a

576
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: positive shout out, right, he's a he's a stud. And

577
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: then there was like Eric Davis, all these guys just.

578
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: Hey, Eric Davis. From that I.

579
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: Interviewed, Yes, you must have interviewed Eric. Yeah, former snipers

580
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: for Yeah, he fought. Yeah, he fought, dude. Oh yeah,

581
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Eric fought. I sat right with him talking to him,

582
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: and we were having a beer. And actually here's how

583
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: it went down. We were meeting for the team fight

584
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: in London. Everybody's rallying up at this restaurant. It's by

585
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, right around twenty sixteen, and everybody's

586
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: meeting for the first time to know everybody. And I'm

587
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: at the end of it, at the end of the table,

588
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: and Brandon's at the other end, and I'm over by Eric.

589
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: Eric's at the head, Brandon's at the other end, So

590
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 2: I'm sitting right next to Eric and the waitress comes over.

591
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 2: She's like, do you want to drink? And I was like,

592
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: y'all have a beer. And we were talking and he's like, wait,

593
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: didn't you say you were a Mormon rat. I was

594
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: like yeah. He's like, I'll have a beer too, and

595
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: I was like what. He's like, yeah, I'm Mormon too.

596
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: But you know, when there's two of us together, it's

597
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: like is one of them drinking the other one? So

598
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: not to say anything bad, but that's how I got

599
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: to know Eric, all right, And then after that I've

600
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: just become friends with him. And he's a you know,

601
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: I mean, anybody that can push Chris Kyle into the

602
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: ground and try to make him quit seal sniper Corse,

603
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: that's the guy. It's him, you know. And so many

604
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: famed people that he in the military community, that he oversaw,

605
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: people who didn't even get notoriety, right, Yeah, no one

606
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 2: talks about right like, there's no movie, not ever going

607
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: to be a movie. It didn't happen, This wasn't here.

608
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: You don't know about this. There's a thing in your

609
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: brain that blows up if you talk about it. You know.

610
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Eric's a great guy. In honor to have him

611
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: on the show. I was just love talking to them

612
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: in front of knowledge. But there's two things that comes

613
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: out of our conversation there. One is self defense and

614
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: the other sports. Neither of those are related to winning

615
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: a violent confrontation. Self defense, there's no such thing. Self

616
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: defense is illegal. This is for the listeners. It's a

617
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: legal defense in court. That's what that is. If you're

618
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: going to a self defense school, it's a marketing term.

619
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: I don't teach self defense. I teach Europe. I teach

620
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: world or two combatives. I teach my special forces training

621
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: experience and a police experience. Self defense. If you're defensive,

622
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: you just been a little ball. You have to win.

623
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: There's no such thing. And the other was sports. You know,

624
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: boxing is a great sport, but one guy broke his

625
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: nose and then the other had to draw. That's not

626
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: going to work. So there's a huge difference between sports.

627
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: And all the people in this world that are of

628
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: any caliber speak to it. Michael don Vito speaks to it,

629
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 3: Tony Blauer, all those sort of people. You know, sport

630
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: is great, but there's no rules. So when the bad

631
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: guy says, hey, give me a wallet or I'll kill you,

632
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: and you give me the wallet and then he stabs you.

633
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: You can't go. Oh, you didn't play by the rules.

634
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: It's a criminal.

635
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: You know.

636
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 3: I don't believe the bad guy. And if you're going

637
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: to go into a fist fight with someone, which I

638
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: don't know why you would, and the other guy pulls

639
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: out a knife and stabs you, and you think that's unfear,

640
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: you really need to take a good look at your surroundings.

641
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: Bad guys don't play by the rules, and sport is

642
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: not a real fight.

643
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny you said that. I talked you

644
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: a little bit about my dad being former Green Beret, etc.

645
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: He taught me when I was a little kid. He said,

646
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 2: if you're ever in a fight, you just grab the

647
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: balls or whatever is there because there's no rules in

648
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 2: a fight. There is no fair fight. He said, there

649
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: is no fair fight. And the fact that you're saying

650
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: that right now just reiterates what dad said. There is

651
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: no fair fight. There might be a pencil on the

652
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: ground out of your school books flying. I'm not saying anything,

653
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying if you're yeah, I don't want

654
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: to get into any type of a fisticuffs altercation with

655
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: anyone want to I want to have a discussion.

656
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: We're having a nice discussion that could turn into an

657
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: angry discussion, which people might call an argument. But if

658
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: you want to fight, someone's going to end up in

659
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: hospital or dead because why would why would we go

660
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: to hands on? Now, especially females as an ambush attack,

661
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: it's hands on straight away. But if you're if you

662
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: let your ego get involved and you go to to

663
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: then put hands on someone or they put hands on you,

664
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: you've just lost it straight You lost the game straight away,

665
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: and you and you might not go home that night

666
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: to your family. You know. It's there's just no such

667
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: thing as a fair fight. There's a quote you can

668
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: put out, but I want to teach people, hey, walk

669
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: away or protect yourself immediately and eliminate that threat. And

670
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't want people to.

671
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: Have to be there.

672
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: If we can use as you said sort of twenty

673
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: minutes ago, situation awareness, we see things a little bit more.

674
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: Let's pass the knowledge onto those people who haven't been

675
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: trained like us.

676
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: Read that's right now, just knowing a little bit more

677
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: head on us. Just looking to your right, looking to

678
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: your left. At every stop light before I go through it,

679
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: even if it turns green on me, I'm like, let

680
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: me just take a quick look. I don't care about

681
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: anybody behind me because it's in me. Yeah, you know,

682
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: if they're like, I look, get going, I'm not texting.

683
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: I promise, don't hank me for that, Okay. I'm just

684
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: making sure it's clear to go through the intersection.

685
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: And I saw that today on the way to school.

686
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: We saw someone not give way at a give way

687
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: sign and almost take out the maserati that we had

688
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: the right away. I'll ask you a question, read how

689
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 3: safety do you feel going out at night with all

690
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: those Special Forces guys and the vibe they put out

691
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: and seeing what they saw.

692
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: I felt really safe, okay, because I learned it's not

693
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: my war from Eric Davis. And that was because we

694
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: were standing in front of a chips and fish and

695
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: chip shop, fish and chips and some kebab shop or

696
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: something on the east side, and all of a sudden,

697
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: I was just eating my chips, right and this drunk

698
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: lady comes over and she just looks at me and

699
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: she's wasted and she just reaches in. I put vinegar

700
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: on my stuff, and she came and I was watching

701
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: this drunk chick just go to town on my chips.

702
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't even want them anymore. But

703
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm watching this and Eric and all those guys are like,

704
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: who's she And I was like, she's wasted wanting to

705
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: eat my chips, so she spits them out because she's

706
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: got vinegar. Vinegar on your chips. I'm like, yeah, they're

707
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: going on my fish toobe. Man, this's my fries. Out

708
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: of nowhere, Out of nowhere. This dude goes running out

709
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: of the corner of my eye up the street and

710
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: just floors it into this dude's face out of nowhere.

711
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: His face is spurting blood. Then he kicks him onto

712
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: the curb and Eric date and I was like, oh,

713
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: my first thing stinks are what? Oh shit? What just

714
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: I should help? I should give care. Yeah, Davis hit

715
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: me on the shoulder said not our war, let's move,

716
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: and I was like walking away looking over my shoulder, like,

717
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: not our war, you know, poor guy, not our war.

718
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: He didn't call it. That guy jumped him, and all

719
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Mann, you know, you got the police,

720
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: the peers coming through, and I was like, yeah, not

721
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: our war. As soon as I saw those blue checkers.

722
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: I was like, not us, non America. I can't talk

723
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: back to those cops, not my war, not my passport

724
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: to handover. You know what I'm saying, like, what are

725
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: you doing in this violent thing with all these Navy seals? So, yeah,

726
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: situational awareness, you know, and we were walking it was

727
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: like three in the morning, and we're I would have

728
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: not wanted to mess with that group. Yeah, exactly exactly.

729
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: They not only were aware of the situation, they comprehended

730
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: the situation really really well at that time of the morning.

731
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: And that's why I pose that question to you. You know,

732
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: they're seeing stuff and they're calm to a degree that

733
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: others may not be, and that makes you calm. It's

734
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: just great to be a surrounded They're going to see

735
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: those streets well before the other people do. And again,

736
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: you're going to knowledge transfer. I want to transfer the

737
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: knowledge to other people.

738
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: Or like Eric Davis is upgraded, I might not have

739
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: been as upgraded. And he looked and he already knew

740
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: rat you're a nice guy, bro, but not our war,

741
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: not today.

742
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

743
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, and that's true. I

744
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: hope he hears this. I'm attacking him in it at

745
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: Eric Davis's tell us that now your podcast is the

746
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: how Not to DIEG podcast? Right, No, No, And so.

747
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: My instagram, my instagram is how not to dieg on

748
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: my podcast that you know. We connected eventually through Brandon Webb.

749
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 3: What an amazing guest he was, so I was so

750
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: humbled to have him on as a straight talk mind

751
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: and muscle podcast encompassing so many things. You know, I

752
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: could have mined. I could have like a top psychologist

753
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: on which I have one of the top psychicolists in

754
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: the world. Muscle, I could have one of the All

755
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: Blacks coaches on, or I could have mined with a

756
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: Delta Force guy talking PTSD. Or I could have a

757
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 3: muscle with say a Navy seal talking about seal prep.

758
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: So it compasses a whole bunch of those things as well.

759
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you, since you're one of the first,

760
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: which many people prayed on, No, I think you're one

761
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: of the first, like actual trainers out there that are right,

762
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: one of the first personal trainers. Is that what I studied? Yah,

763
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: that's correct.

764
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: I was one of the first personal trainers in the

765
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: world at Les Mills back in like nineteen ninety one.

766
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah right, And so Arnold Schwarzenegger says, do you wake

767
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: up and go to bed every day? And do you

768
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: drink water? That's why I go to the gym. He's like,

769
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: I go there because it's who I am and what

770
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: I do. And someone's like, are you ever going to

771
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: give up going to the gym? And he's like, do

772
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: you give up sleeping and eating? It's like, so I

773
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: want to bring that full forward because in about forty

774
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: days since I started my boxing regiment, I've been going.

775
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: I've gone about thirty out of the forty days to

776
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: the gym, learning all my ones and twos and combos,

777
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: and I've lost about six pounds of fat.

778
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: Excellent.

779
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 2: I like watching that melt on the floor between my feet,

780
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: the drips and the sweat. Okay, I love to show that.

781
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: And what do you think? You know, you're just saying

782
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: do something, do something? Be active? Right? Someone might be

783
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: listening to this. They could be driving the lorry or

784
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: a truck driver that's what we call him over here.

785
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: It might be a lorry driver. I've learned your language,

786
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 2: and Bob's your uncle, right, is that right? Yeah?

787
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well well done?

788
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: But you know what's a good thing for someone who

789
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: wants to join the military, who's thinking about going in

790
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: who what should they be trying to think about, you know,

791
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: the guy that wants to just get into basic training.

792
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: And whether it's in New Zealand or the US, what's

793
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: something that they should be focusing on. Is it running?

794
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: Is it mental? What do you think?

795
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: I think that fitness brings mental toughness. That's my personal

796
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: opinion based on what I did to past selection and

797
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: anybody else that I know. Fitness is a base and

798
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 3: then mental toughness is above that. But you can't have

799
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: one without the other. It's going through hard things. What

800
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 3: I think they should focus on is first just start walking.

801
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: Start getting some longer walks in and the weekend go

802
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: for a nice hike and enjoy the view. Enjoy the

803
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: view when you out there. Don't just put some music

804
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: on and be in pain. Enjoy the view you have

805
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: a look around, and then progress that to running and

806
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: between that kind of like Arnold said, you just do things.

807
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: I suggest press ups and set ups and chin ups

808
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: every day, every day, you know, just make it five

809
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: five five five press ups, five chin ups, five setups,

810
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: and then progress that me personally, I progress things each week.

811
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't walk reud. I was on crutches out of surgery,

812
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: so I was below what a baby would be. I

813
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 3: couldn't even crawl around and put any weight on my leg. Progression,

814
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: progression is important, and give yourself that goal. But give

815
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: yourself a starting point and give yourself an endpoint. If

816
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: the endpoint is getting into basic training and they've got

817
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: to run test and a press up test, you know

818
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: what you've got to do. See where you're starting at,

819
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: and then just progressively make it so. And if you

820
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: want to lose weight, which you didn't ask directly, but yes,

821
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: talk about that losing weight. You know that workout will

822
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 3: burn a minimum amount of calories, even if you run

823
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: your guts out for an hour.

824
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: It's not a lot.

825
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: I think it's six hundred calories. Seven hundred calories. I

826
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: mean go to Starbucks and get a double chocolate chip

827
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: fabuccino or a burger blow that. What really burns calories,

828
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: and it is calories and carries out is what you

829
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: do in the day. So again, me lying on the

830
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: couch for six weeks recovering, I was burning no calories.

831
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 3: I had to bring my food down. It was real

832
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: and now when I can move more, you move more.

833
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 3: Just get out and move more through the day. So

834
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: you know, they say the simple thing like park your

835
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: car further away, but from the interest of the store,

836
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 3: just move more. And if the easiest way to measure

837
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: that is get a five dollars pedometer and get twelve

838
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: to fourteen thousand steps and that will make you lose

839
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: weight more. It's easy to.

840
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: Use your cell phone. You use your cell phone. Today's

841
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: cell phones have it right there, So I bet you

842
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: hang on. I'm not sure does that got to sneak on?

843
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: It is that? It is? Oh? You still that's your phone?

844
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I've got the social media, I've got the

845
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: online stores and things. I make sure that when I'm

846
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: out and about I can't excess those things. And I've

847
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: got a phone here it's got snake. Yeah, it's not snake.

848
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: I think that's like one hundred thousand dollars on eBay

849
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: right now. You might just want to google that. I

850
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: think the first generation iPhone just sold for one hundred

851
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: and seventy thousand dollars from two thousand and seven. Wow,

852
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm not even joking with you. Wow, it's a little

853
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: yea you might be like, well, how much it might Yeah,

854
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: I actually looked through my drawers to see if I

855
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: can find old AT and T and Nokia phones. Dude,

856
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: that's so nice, you look.

857
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: Just move more. Move more is the important thing, and

858
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: just easy moving and the pedometer is the simplest way.

859
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: And do some press ups, chin ups and setups or

860
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: something like that. Something's going to help and you don't

861
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: go to I've got my garage with chains and uh

862
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: and weights, and I put brake discs on on the

863
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: on the.

864
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: I saw break discs, was that you Yeah? They blue?

865
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: Is it on your blue? Blue?

866
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: Is the blue is the old old weight? And then

867
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: on the app. So I changed the brake roaches in

868
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: my car. I mean all that I could use these.

869
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: They might fit on the bar.

870
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: That's on your Instagram, right, I swear I saw that. Yeah,

871
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: the how not to dye guy Instagram. If you get

872
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: one person to follow you from this, I hope they

873
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: going like that picture because that's where I was like,

874
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't take much. And I also saw some young

875
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: man in Africa in a village trying to train to

876
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: become a professional basketball player in the rain, in the heat,

877
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: and no matter what but what he's using is using

878
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: old plastic water bottles as is his weights for his

879
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 2: bench press. And he's got like old tires that he's

880
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: like doing his stretches with and everything. But the dude

881
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: is shredded. Yeah, he is shredded. He doesn't have some

882
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: huge fitness gym that's around the corner that he's locked

883
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: in two month over month and he doesn't even use.

884
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: He's literally like, you know, what's up, I'm in the rain.

885
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm he made like a He took a piece of

886
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: tin roof and folded it so it was like a

887
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: U and he put it under the basket so when

888
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: he shot the ball, it would roll back to him.

889
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: No oh yeah, yeah, he's the things you see when

890
00:42:59,320 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: you're scrolling.

891
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: You know, I've got some I've got a y bell.

892
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: It's it's kind of like a kidtlebell down bell butt.

893
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: That's the other started story. They weigh twelve kilos and

894
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: I need to lift more. So I tied with some string,

895
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: tied a five kilo plate on either side to it,

896
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: so I could have seventeen kilos yesterday.

897
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: Right right, And I kept adapting to it. Yeah why not?

898
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: Why not?

899
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: See, I just started doing so with this boxing, it's

900
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: very cardio calisthetics, very aerobic. You know. I didn't realize

901
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: how much I was getting into with boxing, right the

902
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: techniques I thought I used to make fun of boxing.

903
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: I don't make fun of boxing. I don't the Mike

904
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 2: Tyson fights and stuff like, oh you can't last with Tyson,

905
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: I understand, right, and so and so. I just learned

906
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: how to do twenty complete burpies the other day, like

907
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: complete kickout back, push up, you know, burpies. But I

908
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: wasn't doing improper for about thirty days because I'm a

909
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: big dude. I'm too eighty eight, but now I'm two

910
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: eighty two and six foot five and dropping down and

911
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: pushing back my legs is a chore. Yeah, And I

912
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: see these other dudes in there, and I was like, man,

913
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: I gotta do this. The other day, I went and

914
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: got some good athletic shorts, not my normal cargo shorts.

915
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: I got some stuff that will allow my junk to

916
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: move freely and like have some spandex inside. Bro. I

917
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: was doing burpies like. I was so proud of myself.

918
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: Every time I drip drip sweat, I was just like,

919
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm changing my body.

920
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: They say, sweet, sweetest fat, crying.

921
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: Good good cry. I look in the mirror and I

922
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: flip my stomach off all the time. I'm like, I'm

923
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: coming for you. I'm like, the only thing in front

924
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: of me is you, and it's my mirror. It's this me, me,

925
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm the only thing that's stopping me from doing anything

926
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: better for me is me.

927
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 3: Well read, you say that I interviewed two ladies. One

928
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: was one hundred and ninety kilos, So that's close to two.

929
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: Hundred two point three pounds of kilos. So you're talking

930
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: about pounds, yeah, three hundred PUDs. Yeah, it's something about

931
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: one thirty.

932
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 3: I'm about of pounds and you know, five foot five.

933
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: I interviewed here. So she ended up she didn't have

934
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 3: any mirrors in her house because she didn't want to

935
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: see herself. And she looked in her photo. Somebody took

936
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: a photo of her and she went, oh my god,

937
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: I'm three hundred pounds. She became a fitness bikini model.

938
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: It just snapped her. YEP.

939
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: So she made the decision and I interviewed her, and

940
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: I asked her this one question, is the whole angle

941
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: of the interview was? You know, is it mental or

942
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: is it something else? He goes, it's a choice. I

943
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: chose to get rid of all the mirrors in my

944
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: house and never have a photograph so I didn't have

945
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: to look at myself. She then saw the photo, she chose,

946
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 3: it's my choice to do that. Another lady she weighed more.

947
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: She weighed around about three hundred and eighty pounds, and

948
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: now she's down to about one hundred and fifty and

949
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: she's lost two people people, so people, she doubled her

950
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: weight in pregnancy after pregnancy, sorry, and she goes so fat.

951
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: She had to go grocery shopping at two am in

952
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: the morning so she wouldn't be embarrassed, and she used

953
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: a motorized scooter. She made a decision. And I love

954
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: what you said. It's a decision because you said, the

955
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: only thing stopping you is you. If someone decides to

956
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: make the decision to go for a selection, to join

957
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: the military, to lose six pounds, to stop boxing, to

958
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: do fourteen thousand steps, all these things are decisions, and

959
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: if it's to be, it's up to me. Is a

960
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: very simple quote that I think is relevant here.

961
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: You know, and when you said you're not really training

962
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: for like this physique or this style. You're just training

963
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: for your son or for your family and the loved

964
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: ones around you. I have that same vibe. I know

965
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: that results will come. I can already start seeing it

966
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: in like my arms and whatnot and my shoulders. I

967
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: know that those results would come because I want to

968
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: look like a boxer. I know what a boxer looks like.

969
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: And even if it's butterbean, bro come at me, man, Okay,

970
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: go ahead, He's solid, dude. I wouldn't fight butterbeans like Okay,

971
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: but Cardio still big dude. He's like huge dude. But again,

972
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: when I go over and see Big Phil or Rob

973
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: Paxman or all these guys that were boxing. You know,

974
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: Rob's my size six five, you know, big dude, and

975
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: he's up there boxing maybe Delgado who's like maybe six

976
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: foot Wow. You know. I mean there's a big, a

977
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: big size difference between the US guys and the SAS guys.

978
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. Yeah, like Jim, you know these

979
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 2: guys I'm repping that. I'm saying off the top.

980
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: Of your Yes, Jason Dogada, I cand of remember seeing names,

981
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 3: and then so I remember do got on linked with

982
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: Jason when I have seen it written down and Paxton.

983
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: Is I think also former twenty two maybe sas or

984
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 2: he might be regiment.

985
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 3: The other guy. There's another a says guy there. He

986
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: he was on the TV shows fod his wins. But

987
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: he's a skulla all now there's all the acts. He's

988
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: a bridge Jason.

989
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: Okay, he did. I did find them four. I've done

990
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: three of them. I've gone over to England three times

991
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: with the US team to host it, and it's been

992
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: it's been Alie Chinton, it's been or Ali, and it's

993
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: been Jim. But Jim's last names. I only think of

994
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: a Instagram it's like one seven seven to two. It's

995
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: like twenty two D Squadron. It's you know, and uh

996
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: Rob Patton and then Matt Hell You're fought and Cray

997
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: is the name I'm thinking of. Oh Callin. Yeah, there

998
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: was another guy that was supposed to fight for the US,

999
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 2: but he couldn't make it. He does deadly skills. Oh,

1000
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 2: Clint Emerson was supposed to fight on that card.

1001
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 3: Clint is a great guy headed on the show. Yeah,

1002
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: really cool dude. Look his stuff that he teaches, you know.

1003
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: So I actually referenced Clinton the article that's coming up

1004
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: for the Auckland shooting. His skills of you know, you're

1005
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: on the other side of a door, get take off

1006
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: your belt and wrap it around the automatic door closer.

1007
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: He just saves your life with an idea.

1008
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, carry a zebra pen. You know, a

1009
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: zebra pen is metal, It can go an He demonstrates

1010
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: with a piece of plywood. He goes yep, right through

1011
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: the plywood with it, and he's like, and no one's

1012
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: going to take it from you at the security checkpoint

1013
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: because it's a zebra pen looks like a pen. So,

1014
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: I mean the little things that are in his little

1015
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: Deadly Skills book, you know, to keep you from daying

1016
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: like what you're look at.

1017
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: They're not little things. I mean, I said, with that

1018
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: guy that turned out to be a drug user, the

1019
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: first thing I went and did was get my boots.

1020
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: So I teach people less and I'm going to do

1021
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: a video beside my bid I have my boots. You

1022
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: can't fight and be your feet. How many times you

1023
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: see people break their hands or break their their feet

1024
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 3: and you have see so many times all the time.

1025
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: You're not going to break your feet in the boots.

1026
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: You can run out naked, but you got some boots on.

1027
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 3: That's what that's my first weapon before I'm going and

1028
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: getting and I wouldn't do it here because in Australia,

1029
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 3: before you getting body armor and a gun, I'm putting

1030
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: the boots on, so then I can then start to

1031
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: work up.

1032
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: Right, that's like your first line, your boots, Like, hey, yeah, boots,

1033
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: just like the dude tail in his shoes. He's like,

1034
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about the lion because you got to

1035
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: run from the line and you wilps.

1036
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 3: Just from the military, I don't think you would it

1037
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: on in the Air Force, but in the military general military,

1038
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: when we air our feet out, you'd only ear one

1039
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: one foot out at a time. So you take one

1040
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: boot off foot powder on, ear it out because you've

1041
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: been in the wet in New Zealand, and then you

1042
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: do the other one. So you got a boot on

1043
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 3: the ground at all times, like a foot on the

1044
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 3: ground when you're moving forward. You got one one team

1045
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: or one person creating a firm base, moving moving, moving,

1046
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: and then the other one. So these simple things and

1047
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: you know the one hundred deadly skills with Clint and

1048
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 3: people say the little things, but those things that pin,

1049
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: that zebra pin might save your.

1050
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: Life one hundred percent. And you know, I've got a

1051
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: friend in the army who carries a zebra pin because

1052
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: of Clint and his advice, and we've had his books

1053
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff through. You know. It's

1054
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: funny how it's a small world. That's all I have

1055
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: to say, all right, because here we are talking in

1056
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: two different time dimensions, two different days, about people that

1057
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: we both talk about and have. Yeah, these interactions, no wonder.

1058
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: Brandon's like rad get Demian on the show and I

1059
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: was like, you know, no, no, kidd, you know. And

1060
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: yesterday I was like, let's do it now, let's go now,

1061
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: and You're like, ye, in two hours, let's get because

1062
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: we're both awake. You know, it's like, what time is

1063
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: it if he's a weak now, I'm like and I'm

1064
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 2: a week Now, what time does it have to work

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00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 2: for us? And I was like, am, because it's about

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00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: what ten am in your times on right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we're coming up to ten am, and

1068
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 3: you're so right the small world. I was telling someone

1069
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: that I did a podcast and a radio show the

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00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: other day and I listed some of the guests, and

1071
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: she's like, how do you get these people? I was like, well,

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00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: it just sort of it's organic. You know, I'm talking

1073
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 3: to you. Phill End up coming on in a couple

1074
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: of months, and it's because we share that same love

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00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: of helping others. I believe without being an egotistical and

1076
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 3: we get it. You know. Brandon was again, I go

1077
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 3: back to what I said half an hour ago. Brandon

1078
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 3: owns one hundred million dollar media company, plus soft Rep.

1079
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 3: I'd read about him for like three or four years.

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00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 3: I'd read his book, I read Eric and Eric's book

1081
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: on that as well, and then I just fished out

1082
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: to him. Yeah, look, I just reached out to him

1083
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: and he said, yeah, I'll come on the show. And

1084
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: he made time during Thanksgiving and I was stunned. And

1085
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: because he knows that I can share his story to

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00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: good people. And you know, if we can share one

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00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 3: thing that one person, sorry, one thing that helps one

1088
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: person on the show, then I've done my job and

1089
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: that's what I'm here to do.

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00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: Now. Do you, foresee, do you have a book, do

1091
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: you have anything that is going to be coming up?

1092
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: Do you think you'll sit down and write a memoir.

1093
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. I have actually partnered with

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00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna leave it. If they're going to say British,

1095
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 3: I won't say what he does. I was just say

1096
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: a British operator. And we are going to be creating

1097
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 3: an audiobook first, and then that's going to transcribe into

1098
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: a written book and that'll be over the.

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00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: Next year or two or I look forward to getting

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00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: a copy or listening to it. You know, it's such

1101
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: a cool thing to have these audiobooks these days, where

1102
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: you know you can listen like they're listening to us

1103
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: or watching us right now. There's nothing like reading a

1104
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: good book. But you know, the audio is very popular

1105
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: these days, so I wish you most success with that.

1106
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: And I know I've had your time for about an

1107
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: hour and it doesn't even seem like that. It just

1108
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: flies by so quick, and I know our listener knows.

1109
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to wind it down because you've got things

1110
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: to get on with your day and continue to stay.

1111
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: You know, you're firefighter. Thanks for your service firefighting by

1112
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: the way over there. I'm sure everybody that you help

1113
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: really appreciate you being on site when you show up,

1114
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: you know, first it's a great world, It really is.

1115
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: I haven't been. I haven't been on the job for

1116
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: six months with my broken ankle. It is a long

1117
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 3: term injury. But look popped in the station and now

1118
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: and then and look at it's an amazing job. That

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00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 3: one and again that's people running towards danger. Good people

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00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 3: doing that. Male and female. We have one standard over here.

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00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 2: It's great. Look shout out. Is there a station number

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00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: like over in the US. You got a number for

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00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 2: your station?

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00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: Hey, that's funny because I had been to Orlando. I've

1125
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 3: been to Orange County the fire station there. But my

1126
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 3: fire station here in Western Australia is Clearmont fire Station.

1127
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a great bunch of guys, small station.

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00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: It's a real home. And yeah, of course, thank you

1129
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: for the opportunity.

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00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: Who's the best? Who's the best cook? You got it?

1131
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: Let's get let's let's start some wars. Who's the best

1132
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: cook there? Who's the best? The best? Is it? You?

1133
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: Who is it?

1134
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll throw it out there for my buddy Sean

1135
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: pulled away from bondsay in England. He's an import, luck

1136
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: I am, and yeah he can he can do a

1137
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: main pool belly that boy.

1138
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. There's a shout out. So if

1139
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: you want to be a firefighter, go join his his

1140
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 2: squad and get some pork belly. Well, listen, I'm gonna

1141
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: wind down and just remind you that we have a

1142
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: merch store. It's got Softwap goods in it. You can

1143
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: go check out Brandon Webb's new book Blind Fear, which

1144
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: has just released this month. Go check it out, get

1145
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: it for Christmas, for your father, for your mother, go

1146
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: check out the audio books. I'm the voice of the

1147
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: character Finn and Cold Fear and Steel Fear, so I'm

1148
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 2: very thrilled to have that opportunity and I'm really pleased

1149
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: and thank you Brandon for introducing Damian Porter to me

1150
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: today and having you become part of my life. So

1151
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: welcome to my family and soft Rep Mafia. I'm happy

1152
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: to be a partner with you here, So thank you

1153
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 2: so much.

1154
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: Thank you Ried. I'm actually honored, I really and thank

1155
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 3: you so much for up chain. It's been great to

1156
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: check to you. I love you to know a pission

1157
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 3: from the other side of the world in an interview

1158
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: in such a organic way, and it's just been a pleasure.

1159
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 3: Thank you for your interview skills and get the information

1160
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 3: out to you.

1161
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: Every Body, you're welcome. And again, if anybody wants to

1162
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: go check out Damien's instagram, it is how Not to

1163
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 2: Die Guy, and I have to look at the ceiling

1164
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: because I have to say how Not to Die Guy.

1165
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: So go check out how Not to Die Guy on Instagram,

1166
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: Friend him and h and follow along and see if

1167
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: you can get some coaching tips. I bet you could

1168
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: reach out and ask him some questions too. So I

1169
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: just want to say thank you on behalf of soft

1170
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: Rep Brandon Webb and the whole cast and crew, Anton

1171
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: who does my producing. Another shout out for you, Bro.

1172
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: I know you're going to hear it, So thank you

1173
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 2: to Chris and Mark and everybody else and my wife.

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00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 2: This is Rat saying peace.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Silk rep Radia