WEBVTT - McCabe Meltdown

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<v Speaker 1>Mr garbutschaf teared down this wall. Either you're with us

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<v Speaker 1>The Buck Sexton Show joined the conversation called Buck Toll

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<v Speaker 1>Free at eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight

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<v Speaker 1>four four nine hundred to eight to five the future

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<v Speaker 1>of talk radio buck Sexton. The Trump administration has been

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<v Speaker 1>accused I heard over the weekend of being vindictive and

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<v Speaker 1>mean spirited, and that seems horribly unfair. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was horrible day for democracy. This attack on McCabe really

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of something from a movie. It seems sort

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<v Speaker 1>of tragic and unfair on the surface. So it does

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<v Speaker 1>look vindictive. Should we not take it that way? It

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<v Speaker 1>feels vindictive just because it was the timing of it

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<v Speaker 1>which leads one to believe that this is authoritarian behavior

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<v Speaker 1>or the making of one. Welcome to the Buck section Show. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Man media was in a meltdown over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>about that, weren't they? They're just also upset about McCabe

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<v Speaker 1>getting fired. There's so much to say here, folks. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have some fun with this one. We're gonna really

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<v Speaker 1>air this one out, you know, so you can take

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, take a deep breath, stretch out, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lean into this. Oh my, here, let's let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with this. Trump didn't fire McCabe. Does that seem to

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<v Speaker 1>matter to anybody here? Did do any of these folks

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<v Speaker 1>who were saying that, you know, oh my gosh, our

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<v Speaker 1>institutions are all gonna just collapse? The President United States

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<v Speaker 1>did not fire McCabe. In fact, President United States had

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<v Speaker 1>no direct involvement whatsoever in the firing of McCabe. McCabe

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<v Speaker 1>got fired because of an inspector General report from within

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<v Speaker 1>the FBID. Now that's very significant, folks, That really matters,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can tell you this, a federal bureaucracy is

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<v Speaker 1>going to protect its own until it can't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>until they decide you have to be voted off the island.

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<v Speaker 1>They're usually gonna treat you like one of their own,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna protect you at the senior levels Oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong. Let's not get this twisted. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're some average Joe Schmoe one of these places, they

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<v Speaker 1>may they may decide to feed your career into the

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<v Speaker 1>wood chipper, so to speak. They may decide that you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're done because it will send a message to the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the McCabe level, been there for decades, close

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody, close with Comey. This was Comey's deputy, this

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<v Speaker 1>was Comey's right hand man, Mr. Six ft nine, sanctimony himself,

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<v Speaker 1>James Comey. He of tweeting out Placid Lake scenes while

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<v Speaker 1>writing anti Trump screeds fame. Uh, this is what we

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<v Speaker 1>see here that the Inspector General was the one that

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<v Speaker 1>decided that McCabe has be fired. Now, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go too far down the road of what McCabe

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<v Speaker 1>did was so terrible. He leaked this inform, He leaked

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<v Speaker 1>information and lined about it. That's all we know right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking that if we were to see, if we

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<v Speaker 1>were to see what was contained in the report in total,

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<v Speaker 1>we would we would then understand how does the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>would get rid of one of its own in this way?

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<v Speaker 1>But oh my gosh, the media were in a tizzy

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend based on this. He got fired late

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night. You'll you'll call I told you here on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I thought he was gonna fire. We were

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<v Speaker 1>on firing Watch. I even said on Outnumbered on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was gonna get fired, and he did. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, always bet on Buck. That's what I like

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Always bet on Buck. But you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really change all that much here until we get

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<v Speaker 1>more information, you know, And do I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>was the right thing. Sure, it makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, one more thing before we bust out the

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<v Speaker 1>world's smallest violin for Andy McCabe. Here, let's understand a

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<v Speaker 1>few things. He's somebody who no doubt jammed up, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the law enforcement term of art for blanking somebody

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<v Speaker 1>over jammed up. Uh, tons of people, for lying to

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<v Speaker 1>probably him as an FBI agent in his day, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as lots of other FBI folks, and for just that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really one of the one of the favorite charges

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<v Speaker 1>of the federal government is lying to the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>They love to get you on that one. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even saying lying under oath in a court proceeding. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, lying to a federal agent. Love that one,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's actually something I think should be revisited in

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<v Speaker 1>the context of if you didn't actually do anything wrong

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<v Speaker 1>but lied about something unimportant, should you really should you

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<v Speaker 1>get the Flynn treatment? Oh yeah, that's right. Flynn had

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<v Speaker 1>to sell his house to pay his legal bills. General Flynn,

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<v Speaker 1>he served decades in the military. Does anyone anyone crying

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<v Speaker 1>for him in the media. No, all, they think that's

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<v Speaker 1>totally fair. They are exposing themselves. We are seeing how

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<v Speaker 1>deep the deep state really goes. I would note that

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<v Speaker 1>some polls came out of the weekend. I think actually

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<v Speaker 1>CNN might even published one of them about how most

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<v Speaker 1>people believe there is a deep state. So so we

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<v Speaker 1>can have academics, right, Snyde pieces about how the deep

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<v Speaker 1>state in Turkey is a very specific Yet we got

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<v Speaker 1>an American deep state here, folks, And we already know

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<v Speaker 1>who some of the compos of this crime family are. Camy, Brannon. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to Brandon in a second. Don't think he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna escape this one. McCabe call me Brennan McCabe, Sally Yates,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just getting started. There's a whole squad of folks

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<v Speaker 1>that are click clapper, Oh gosh, be here all day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, struck you can get some of the lower

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<v Speaker 1>level ones to bruce or there was a clear anti

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<v Speaker 1>Trump effort at the top level of d J. It's

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<v Speaker 1>being more exposed with all these revelations. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane the smallest violent for McCabe ever. Understand,

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<v Speaker 1>he's sent people to prison. We're lying him many times.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not getting sent to prison. Other people lie and

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<v Speaker 1>lose their freedom. He's just getting his pension delayed, which

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<v Speaker 1>brings me to the oh, pull over the we ambulance

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<v Speaker 1>retiring at fifty full bench and benefits. That's a good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a good deal. He's not losing his entire

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<v Speaker 1>pension everyone. That's not true. He might have to wait now,

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<v Speaker 1>he might not qualify under the current civil service rules

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<v Speaker 1>until he's I don't know, uh, sixty two or sixty

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like normal person retirement age. He might have

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Oh no, but you're already seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Democrats come out and say that they are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to hire him. That's how clearly political this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right from the beginning. That's how obvious it is that

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<v Speaker 1>this is just my team, their team. McCabe is anti Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore he is embraced by the left. So the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I tell you? Time and again here on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. The left takes care of its own. The

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats make sure that anyone who does bad deeds for

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<v Speaker 1>them has good things come with it. That sends a

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<v Speaker 1>very important message, right you, some of you are a

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<v Speaker 1>Game of Thrones fans. I'm sure you know. Lanisters always

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<v Speaker 1>pay their debts. The left always takes care of its own.

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<v Speaker 1>You get book deals, you get media contracts, You get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, chancellorships at universities, board seats on companies. James Comey,

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<v Speaker 1>who is going to write the most sanctimonious giant pile

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<v Speaker 1>of Tyrannosaurus Pooh? I think imaginable is now the number

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<v Speaker 1>one selling author on Amazon in pre sales. Why because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone assumes that he's gonna, you know, slam Trump. There's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be more of what we already know. But getting

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<v Speaker 1>getting really excited for you know, the the early comy

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<v Speaker 1>years reas a hall monitors like do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>pass attention for you? Sanctimonious people don't change. They if

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<v Speaker 1>they're if they're that annoying, now, trust me, they're annoying

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<v Speaker 1>in high school too. And I think Comy is he?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he a New Yorker? I forget is he? I

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<v Speaker 1>forget where he's Far's in New York or Philly? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm putting him on

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<v Speaker 1>your doorstep. Quinn, he's a Philly producer. Mike is looking

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<v Speaker 1>at me all a k A. Quinn. He's a Philly

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<v Speaker 1>guy if I ever saw one. I'm thinking there's some

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<v Speaker 1>filling with Comy. And I'm just trying to make him

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<v Speaker 1>not a New York ais. I'm gonna feel bad about

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway. So you get this, You get this, uh

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<v Speaker 1>sense that something terrible has happened because McCay has been fired.

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<v Speaker 1>Big deal. He's gonna get speaking, big deal, gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a big book deal. And what oh he's call me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Catholic school boy from New York like me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, so, oh, dude, some of the worst, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the best, but some of the worst are from

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<v Speaker 1>my same my same general you know, pumpkin Patch, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. Right, we're the same me and Comey and

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, you know who else Fitzgerald, the special

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case. Whatever, he not only

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<v Speaker 1>went to my high school, went to my college. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's he's also he's also a New York Catholic schoolboy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a super hall monitor and a and a

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<v Speaker 1>head hunter at the d o J. Who else falls

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<v Speaker 1>in that, But we got some of the best to

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<v Speaker 1>Scalia actually went to my rival high school here in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, Xavier. We all like to say he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get into regions, but then people blew us, so

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<v Speaker 1>we try not to say that too much publicly. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but may he rest in peace. One of the great minds,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great legal minds of of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, comey McCabe. We've seen so much of it exposed,

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<v Speaker 1>but it gets worse, it gets worse. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>at the d o J, in the FBI, where they

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<v Speaker 1>were clear senior officials appointees of the Obama administration, no

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<v Speaker 1>less President Obama in some cases very close to these

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<v Speaker 1>individuals who are obviously anti Trump and took actions against

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump campaign. There's some other folks too who have

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<v Speaker 1>exposed themselves on social media recently. We will get in

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<v Speaker 1>to that, including a former director of my own agency.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm throwing my my own, my pedigree, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>getting thrown to the bus. We got Catholic school guys

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<v Speaker 1>from New York City like comey being sanctimonious. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>got Brennan, former CIA director, who went on a do

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<v Speaker 1>we say tirade or tirade? Do we go both? People?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like people go both the tirade? Right, I

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<v Speaker 1>say tirade, Some people say tarade, I think, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a sharade. I don't know, sharade, sharade, tomato tomato.

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<v Speaker 1>What did Brennan say? And what does it tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about this whole Russia collusion fiasco? And oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Vladimir Puttin on one reelection, we got that, We got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more. We're gonna talk about China's theft of

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<v Speaker 1>intellectual property from the US. Here's what he's there. You go,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you perfectly. Time dropped. We got China talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also gonna get into some discussion of trade and

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<v Speaker 1>how all this trade war tours or you know, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>on home monitors some of my conservative buddies on this

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<v Speaker 1>or throwing a fit. Uh, it doesn't add up, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the numbers, it's not that big a deal,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how you slice it. It's literally not that

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<v Speaker 1>big a deal aluminum steel. I'll give you the details

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<v Speaker 1>in the numbers. When somebody says it's just gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>a trade war and be like, yeah, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>tempest in a teapot, not what people are pretending it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We will also talk a bit about this Cambridge Analytica situation. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't give you too much of a preview next

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<v Speaker 1>running the next break, but just all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>now Facebook and Data are coming under all this scrutiny

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<v Speaker 1>when well, let's just say that this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>very very much a partisan narrative that is emerging about

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<v Speaker 1>all this. Keep in mind that it wasn't long ago

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<v Speaker 1>that the Obama administration was all about minding everything they

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<v Speaker 1>could online. Obama's digital team was the best in the business.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so amazing, the the digital whiz kids that he's

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<v Speaker 1>got and all that stuff. Now it's like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking at social media profile and information and making

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<v Speaker 1>political determinations about it. Good heavens, yeah, of course they are.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is a surprise there should be a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise to no one. But because Trump did it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it must be bad. That's the idea. Because Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>team did it, Now it's evil. Now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>the incredible surveillance machine that is the Internet is scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't scary for eight years of Obama, who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually did spy on journalists and do all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of super shady bad stuff. But you know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a problem that now it's a problem. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>journalists were all at sleepaway camp for eight years and

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<v Speaker 1>now they've now they've come back and they actually want

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<v Speaker 1>to do their jobs. In fact, that's exactly what it's like. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're gonna head a quick break eight four

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<v Speaker 1>eight to five eight four f buck, we have much

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<v Speaker 1>more show. Stay with You don't get to decide when

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the truth and when not to. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>withhold judgment until Horowitz's report comes out because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>say what he found, just say, Harowitz is the inspector general.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's wait and see what he found. Let's wait and

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<v Speaker 1>see what that lack of candor was, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>could judge the fact pattern and the proportionality of the

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<v Speaker 1>penalty of his losing his pension. We can judge all

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<v Speaker 1>that once we understand exactly what he's alleged to a

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<v Speaker 1>vain but but make no mistake, the FBI is who

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<v Speaker 1>recommended that he be fired. It wasn't crazy House Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't a Trump administration. It was his own

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<v Speaker 1>fellow bureau agents. The facts with regard to McCabe are

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<v Speaker 1>very important. They basically have said that McCabe leaked classified documents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's illegal, but then he also lied about leaking classified documents,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know the fbire sticklers on this, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't tolerate lying from their agents. And so if

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<v Speaker 1>all that's true, I see no way that he could

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<v Speaker 1>continue in his office, and that punishment is appropriate. Does

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<v Speaker 1>anyone have an argument against what was said there by

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Gaudy and then Rand Paul. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>those are two of them, two of the Republicans that

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<v Speaker 1>you can count on to to call bs when they

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<v Speaker 1>see it either way. You know, I think that Rampaul

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<v Speaker 1>is an honest and ethical guy. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 1>always right, but I think he's honest and ethical. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that he is too clouded with partisanship to

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<v Speaker 1>see things for what they are. Um and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>the same way about Very Gaudy, although I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because Gouty's not run anymore, I start to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he's he's lost his edge, or maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing it more. It seems to me like he's

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<v Speaker 1>a little too like, well, you know, i'd like the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times right, nice things about me. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>very dangerous for Republicans. They write nice things about you

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<v Speaker 1>for a day and then they trash you, and your

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<v Speaker 1>own people think you're a sellout. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go down that path. But I mentioned before we went

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<v Speaker 1>into the break that it's not just d Oh, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just McCabe and Comy and all these other senior

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<v Speaker 1>FBI folks who are a problem. There's a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at this, including John Brennan, close confidante

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<v Speaker 1>of President Obama's and the former director of the Central

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<v Speaker 1>Intelligence Agents. And keep in mind, folks, that being the

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<v Speaker 1>director of the CIA, it's not like rising to be

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of a company where like the best person

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<v Speaker 1>gets the job or somebody with a proven track record.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the time. These jobs, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say it, go to somebody who the president likes and wants.

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<v Speaker 1>That person in the role was Leon Panetta, some intel genius.

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<v Speaker 1>No Obama liked him. He had some background. They put

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<v Speaker 1>him in these places, right, I mean any number And

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<v Speaker 1>there have been some really Panetta was actually okay as

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<v Speaker 1>directors go. I'm from what I'm told from people who

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<v Speaker 1>were there, and no, uh, there have been some really crap,

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<v Speaker 1>lousy CIA directors over the years. But Brennan was o

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<v Speaker 1>Amas Aids the director, and he was known to be

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<v Speaker 1>very chummy with the press and reputed to want to

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<v Speaker 1>get certain narratives out there into the media. And he

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted out in response to the McCabe firing the following.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a quote from the former CI director of

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<v Speaker 1>the obaministration. By the way, the same CI director who

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<v Speaker 1>was very much pushing the Russia collusion narrative with the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump campaign in full swing during the election. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Brennan was one who was waiving the flags and screaming about,

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<v Speaker 1>oh look at all the Russia. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the one, right, or one of a few. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>find out what he thinks of Trump and oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be surprised by this at all,

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Folks? Quote when the full this is in

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<v Speaker 1>response to President Trump directly on Twitter, this is blue

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<v Speaker 1>check warfare, blue check to blue check. When the full

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<v Speaker 1>extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes

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<v Speaker 1>no own, you will take your rightful place as a

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<v Speaker 1>disgrace demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat

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<v Speaker 1>Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America. America will

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<v Speaker 1>triumph over you. I ask you, my friends, at all honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that not seem like a slightly unhinged thing for

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<v Speaker 1>a former CI director to write about the current commander

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<v Speaker 1>in chief? You will not destroy America. America will triumph

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<v Speaker 1>over you. So we only have a few options here.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the former CI director in Obama's buddy is losing

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<v Speaker 1>it or he thinks that Trump is a clear in

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<v Speaker 1>present danger of the United States. And if that were

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<v Speaker 1>the case, what would the former CI director have been

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<v Speaker 1>willing to do against Trump? While still director? He's holding

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<v Speaker 1>the line for America. Buck Sexton is tex laugh. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, at this point, it does feel

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<v Speaker 1>as if you know it's one you talked to one

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<v Speaker 1>set of people and they think the wheels are coming

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<v Speaker 1>off this administration, and you talked to another set and

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<v Speaker 1>it's exactly the presidency that they wanted. So but the

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<v Speaker 1>fact of the matter is, I don't know if our

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<v Speaker 1>institutions can handle what Trump is doing. We can't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to see if our institutions are going to survive the

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<v Speaker 1>emotional spasms of Twitter. The great line, what does that

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<v Speaker 1>say about our institutions? By the way, if if Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter account can bring them tumbling down, they're not very durable,

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<v Speaker 1>are they. Now that's also crazy because Trump's Twitter is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to bring anything telling down, which is when

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at what's being said some of the

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<v Speaker 1>narratives that have gained traction on the left, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that these anti Trump stories, they're almost like bedtime stories

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<v Speaker 1>now the Democrats tell each other so they can sleep

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<v Speaker 1>at night. They're just nonsensical. They don't add up their

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<v Speaker 1>self contradictory. Did you get Chuck Todd there saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know if our institutions can just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they can survive. Well, if an institution

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<v Speaker 1>like the FBI is going to survive the Inspector General

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<v Speaker 1>has to be able to look for misconduct and when

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<v Speaker 1>it finds it has to be able to punish it. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is this is not the least bit surprising

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<v Speaker 1>from that respect. So I just look at this and

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<v Speaker 1>I say to myself, what are they even talking about

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<v Speaker 1>with this? It was an institution operating exactly as it

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<v Speaker 1>should that fired Andrew McCabe from his job at the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>I would notice that what rand Paul said. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if that has been verified or not yet. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that he was my impression from what I've read,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm admitting that I haven't read the IG report.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody is talking about this has read the IG report yet. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't know if it was classified information or not.

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<v Speaker 1>That he it was classified information, then he has to

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<v Speaker 1>be fired. And also then there's the issue of why

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<v Speaker 1>why doesn't he have criminal charges? But if we're just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about even uh internal information given to the press

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<v Speaker 1>that he then lied about that, why would he not

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<v Speaker 1>get fired for that? It just doesn't it again, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't add up, but it does not make sense. But

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<v Speaker 1>they are completely as you know, in the tank and

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<v Speaker 1>devoted to doing everything they can to make the president

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<v Speaker 1>look bad, up to including embarrassing themselves. They will be embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>They will be embarrassed if and when we ever find

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<v Speaker 1>out exactly what the allegations were in that Inspector General report.

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<v Speaker 1>That much I can tell you because they just see,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh someone was fired who was working against Trump. It

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<v Speaker 1>must be Trump's fault. That's not true. That's not the

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<v Speaker 1>way that this works. Are We got a bunch of calls,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's take some of them before we move on.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into some calls before we switch topics.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll start with Dean in Boston. What's up, Dean doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>Track by Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey, So I'll be quick.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is funny. I'm listening to our own Seth

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<v Speaker 1>Moulton from Massachusetts who says that he would hire this

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<v Speaker 1>guy for three days so he can reach his pension.

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<v Speaker 1>And I stiled, thinking, who retires att with a full pension?

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<v Speaker 1>And why would someone who has that higher level job

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<v Speaker 1>decide all of a sudden, you know what I need

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<v Speaker 1>to put in from my retirement, and I need to

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<v Speaker 1>get out, and this is the earliest date that I

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<v Speaker 1>can get out. I don't know what the did he

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<v Speaker 1>just put that in and said I gotta get out

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<v Speaker 1>of gain. Well, it might have been his planning all along,

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<v Speaker 1>because let me think about if you can get your

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<v Speaker 1>full retirement at fifty, right, wuldn't you do? What did

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<v Speaker 1>you take it? I don't know if this was the

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<v Speaker 1>plan all along. He obviously went early because he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run out, you know, he was trying to run

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<v Speaker 1>out the clock and and had come under a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of scrutiny. The thing is, people ask me like, oh, Buck,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>c I A. I obviously wasn't a career officer who

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<v Speaker 1>spent twenty years there because then I would have had

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<v Speaker 1>to start when I was like five. So I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how the vesting process works and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>What I can tell you, uh, is that one it

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<v Speaker 1>is very hard to get fired from these places. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to do something usually illegal. That's what I always

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<v Speaker 1>tell everybody. If you show up on time, if you

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<v Speaker 1>are where you are supposed to be for your job

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<v Speaker 1>in the federal government, when you're supposed to be there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't actively break the law, it's still and

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<v Speaker 1>but you refuse to do any work of any kind.

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<v Speaker 1>It still takes a long time to fire you. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way the civil service procedures work. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that for some of these gigs. Look, some people

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<v Speaker 1>have great deals. I could sit here and talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about, like UH fireman's pensions in UH California, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the major cities California. They are lucrative.

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<v Speaker 1>They ever, that's the deal, that's what they saw it

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<v Speaker 1>up for. But they've got great deals. The FBI think

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<v Speaker 1>has a pretty good deal. I would note that I've

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<v Speaker 1>read this today and we haven't checked on this, so

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<v Speaker 1>Mike got a fact check me on this one, Producer, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm if I'm off. I read today that Anthony Weener,

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<v Speaker 1>who is currently serving I believe a federal prison sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in prison now right. Anthony Weiner, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>convicted sex offender, will get a million what is the

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent of a million dollars worth of benefits for his

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<v Speaker 1>pension as a former member of Congress, despite being a

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<v Speaker 1>convicted felon sex offender. So there are some places where

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<v Speaker 1>you get great It's a great gig, Dean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can get it in terms of the pension. Yeah, worth

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<v Speaker 1>one point two millions, worth one point to million. Do

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<v Speaker 1>we lose Dean or it is Dean just in awe

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<v Speaker 1>of all the knowledge bombs, I'm dropping you there, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Sorry, now I've done it. What do

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<v Speaker 1>I say to the American public that a House of

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<v Speaker 1>Representatives member who were thinking math has kind of hidden

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<v Speaker 1>agenda to try and get his name out for the

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<v Speaker 1>presidency sometime in the near future. But what does it

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<v Speaker 1>say that they step up after the Federal Bureau of

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<v Speaker 1>Investigation kind of internal affairs department and an inspector general,

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<v Speaker 1>a completely separate agency, decide that this person should be terminated,

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<v Speaker 1>and he then steps up and says, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hire him from three days so he can get

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<v Speaker 1>his pension, right exactly? What what are we supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>think of our trusted institutions then? And this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is like the equivalent of saying, well, the FBI's processes

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<v Speaker 1>don't matter anymore. What matters is getting Trump and what

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<v Speaker 1>manages supporting people who tried to get Trump. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying. Yeah, yeah, alright, Dean shields him and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much for the call. Dean isn't a stute fellow.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie in Ocean City, Maryland. Hey, Charlie, Hey Buck, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad you call and shields high brother. How do you sir? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just listening earlier to day on some talk

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<v Speaker 1>shows and they pointed out there's a report out that

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<v Speaker 1>McCabe is actually net worst about eleven mill And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think I was just a simple bricklayer. If

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<v Speaker 1>he made a hundred thousand a year in twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>that's only two mills. How do you get eleven? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>his wife is a doctor, right, uh huh, So, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean she might be making I don't know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what. I don't know what doctors in Virginia. She

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<v Speaker 1>was a primary care physician. I believe she could probably

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<v Speaker 1>make a half million dollars a year. Yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the man, okay, his pench is what fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>thousand a year. If you're asking me, how are they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a networthy of eleven million, Charlie, the answer is,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know, um, but it's worth looking into.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, they could have family, you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>could have family money. There's a lot of ways that

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<v Speaker 1>people can have money that don't necessarily you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>but I see this with who is the guy um

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<v Speaker 1>senator from Arizona who was the majority Harry Reid. How

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<v Speaker 1>is it that Harry Reid was what could afford living

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<v Speaker 1>in an in an apartment in the Ritz Carlton, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like the most expensive place in all of d C.

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<v Speaker 1>That was where he lived when he was in d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Where in Harry Reagan that kind of cash? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at their friend Nancy, I mean she well she

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<v Speaker 1>married a rich guy. Yeah, that's the old fashioned way

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<v Speaker 1>marry somebody a lot of money. That's a good way

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. Charlie Shields simment, thank you for calling in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll look a little more into whether or not McCabe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but that's there's always the option of your

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<v Speaker 1>family money. Uh maybe maybe Dr McCabe writes novels under

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<v Speaker 1>a pen name and it's done very well. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all kinds of ways that people make money you

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<v Speaker 1>woun't know about, but it's it's worth looking, worth looking

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I would say this, I'm guessing FBI has

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<v Speaker 1>financial disclosures and so they probably know a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>about how McCabe did or did not make money. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not seeing that is a big issue, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep an eye on it. I'll make that promise

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I want to switch gears because Cambridge Analytica

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<v Speaker 1>is getting a lot of attention. Facebook lost billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in value today. It was down about five scent

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. In trading. I don't pay that close

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<v Speaker 1>attention to the markets, but Facebook had a very bad day.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's freaking out about this thing, and to me, well

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<v Speaker 1>a few things. One is that they're freaking out because

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<v Speaker 1>it involves Trump, so that always automatically, when Trump's arrangement

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<v Speaker 1>syndrome kicks in, everything is oh my gosh. Uh. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're acting like it's a huge surprise that people will

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<v Speaker 1>use the data they can glean from social media and

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<v Speaker 1>uh use that for the purposes of constructing political messaging

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<v Speaker 1>and memes and campaigns and everything else. Social media makes.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason these places are are so lucrative, and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason they offer you a service for free is to

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<v Speaker 1>aggregate your data to then capitalize off of that data.

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<v Speaker 1>That that is what social media does. That is how

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook is essentially a giant printing press. Of money, They

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<v Speaker 1>take the information about you, they take your activities, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they tailor advertising to you. And Facebook, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>has clamped down hard on just you know, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they are doing things these days. And it's their

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<v Speaker 1>way or the highway. As I've been saying for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, we are in these progressive left wing mega

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<v Speaker 1>platforms and there's been no choice for a lot of folks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. People now are well, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go in a whole rand here about something else. Cambridge

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<v Speaker 1>Analytica involved at the Trump campaign. People are freaking out why.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll answer the question after the break. Cambridge Analytic UH

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<v Speaker 1>was birthed out of a company called scl Group, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a military contractor based in London. It UH this

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<v Speaker 1>this data was used to create profiling algorithms that would

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<v Speaker 1>allow us to explore mental vulnerabilities of people UM and

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<v Speaker 1>then map out wigs to UH inject information into different

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<v Speaker 1>different streams or channels of content online so that people

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<v Speaker 1>started to see things all over the place that that

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<v Speaker 1>may or may not have been true. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>company that that really took fake news to to the

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<v Speaker 1>next level by powering it with algorithms So that's Christopher Wiley,

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<v Speaker 1>who helped found the data firm Cambridge Analytica. It's getting

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<v Speaker 1>so much news media attention right now and people are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how it has well. He said that it

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<v Speaker 1>has an arsenal of weapons in a culture war as

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it. Here's what's happened. You have different companies

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<v Speaker 1>that are always trying to find ways to aggregate the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we're all doing online all the times. These

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<v Speaker 1>social media platforms, my friends, are like intel collectors on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Every click, every look, every like, all the stuff we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing all the time. We just think it goes into

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<v Speaker 1>some you know, vast cloud and who cares? And sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's somewhat true. Although I've been saying for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>just wait until one of these social media companies decides

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<v Speaker 1>to release the you know, private chat that some guy

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<v Speaker 1>had on Facebook with his mistress twenty years ago when

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<v Speaker 1>he's running for president, Because that's gonna happen. Guaranteed that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, just a question of when. And people say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're private company, they can do whatever they want.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna do? They violated their terms of

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<v Speaker 1>service and they can say they changed their terms of

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<v Speaker 1>service the private company. Unless Congress passes laws to protect

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<v Speaker 1>people from the exploitation of their private information on these

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>social on these third party platforms, then that's the way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it's gonna be. But so, here's what

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<v Speaker 1>happened with Camera gen Analytical. They are a group that's

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<v Speaker 1>looking at all this different social media data and they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find ways to create the most well to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the psyche of the masses really and then they

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<v Speaker 1>exploit that information. They exploit exploit that information advantage for

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<v Speaker 1>the purposes of politics. In this case, it seems that

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<v Speaker 1>they may have hired a company Cambridge Analytica, and their

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<v Speaker 1>ties to the Mercers and Benning and this is all,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, you know there you mind, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the Obama team back in twelve and uh two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, they were doing stuff that people thought,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, you know, they're look at how great

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<v Speaker 1>their digital team is looking at all this Facebook information

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<v Speaker 1>and data, and everyone's crunching all these numbers all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem that, well, there's a few things going on

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<v Speaker 1>here with the Camera Generalytic. One of them is they

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<v Speaker 1>may have hired another company to be kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>front that would have you take a personality quiz and

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<v Speaker 1>then you answer all these questions about yourself. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it might have also given you might have also

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<v Speaker 1>given that app uh access to your data, your friend lists,

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<v Speaker 1>your likes, all that stuff. And this is standard. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these apps say you know, can I have

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<v Speaker 1>access to? And it lists all the different things. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the brave new world we live in now. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you say yes, then guess what that means that

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<v Speaker 1>that service has access to sure enough all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why a lot of these things that we

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<v Speaker 1>think are free are free for us. But they do

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<v Speaker 1>come at a cost. And the cost is your information

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and your privacy. And that information is now out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you think it's protected, just start reading about

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.719
<v Speaker 1>some of the major cyber breaches that have happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>including places like the government and and others that their

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<v Speaker 1>whole reason for existing is to prevent cyber breaches. Right there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing a lot of work, a lot of effort

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<v Speaker 1>to try and make sure that does not happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>they get breached. So don't think that all Facebook has

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it. It It must be safe. But they you heard that

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<v Speaker 1>guy wildy when we started the segment here saying that

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<v Speaker 1>they're like weaponizing people's ideas, exploding psychological vulnerabilities. Another way

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<v Speaker 1>of saying it is, yeah, they're figuring out what's on

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<v Speaker 1>people's minds, what's popular, and then they're constructing narratives and stories,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that includes fake news, maybe it doesn't. Probably

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>does that will get the most clicks and shares and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. By the way, every media entity I know

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>is doing this in one way or another. This is

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the game now, folks. This is what is going on.

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>It's only being treated as so nefarious now because it

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<v Speaker 1>involves Trump and some of the Trump or Trump's associates,

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>people like Bannon and Mercer, who is bankrolling Trump. She's

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<v Speaker 1>the daughter of the billionaire Robert Mercer. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>going on in all kinds of ways. I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>this coming for a while. I've been trying to sound

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<v Speaker 1>the alarm as much as possible that the Internet in

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<v Speaker 1>particularly with the advent of the social media platforms and

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 1>their dominance in our discourse. I mean, I know people

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<v Speaker 1>now who are like, well, you know, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>build my business. I'm just gonna sell directly over Facebook

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Okay, you can do that for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what happens when Facebook realizes that your company

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>is deriving a vast majority of its revenue from them?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you think that they can know that

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<v Speaker 1>and then decide that they're gonna use the leverage they

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<v Speaker 1>have over you to demand even higher rates and more.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're giving so much power to these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook is the biggest example, but you know, Twitter, um, Instagram, Snapchat,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>which I've always thought was kind of garbage, um, but

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>these are collecting information on millions and millions of people

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<v Speaker 1>and they're using that. Make no mistake about it. They

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<v Speaker 1>are using the information they get from your day to

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<v Speaker 1>day activities, every like, every click, every digital thought that

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you leave online, and that may not be used against

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you personally, but it will be used by these companies

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>to get an information advantage. And in the massive digital

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>propaganda wars that are going on right now, social media

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>platforms are the front line. Um more on camera. Ge

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<v Speaker 1>Atletic a for you tomorrow, promise he's holding the line

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 1>for America. Buck sex in his back. This neighborhood is

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>still being locked down right now for safety. Again, we're

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>doing this in over abundance of caution so that we

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>can keep this neighborhood safe. What we process the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>What I can tell you is based on the preliminary

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.280
<v Speaker 1>review we have done at this time. We have seen

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<v Speaker 1>similarities in the device that exploded here last night and

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the other three devices that have exploded in Austin starting

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>on March two. Again, this is preliminary information, but we

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 1>have seen similarities. The big difference in this device again

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>is we believe that a trip wire was used in

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<v Speaker 1>this device. Welcome to our to of the Buck Sexton Show,

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Tough News out of Austin, Texas, where you have a

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>fourth a fourth bomb exploding this time, as you heard

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>from the Austin Police Chief, there as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>a trip wire, so a more sophisticated device. And now

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the narrative from law enforcement down in Austin when we're

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>hearing it has shifted away from what was initially it

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>seemed like some perhaps even hate crime based attacks. So

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>now they just have a madman, a serial bomber on

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<v Speaker 1>the loose, and they have very little to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>From what we've been told so far, you've got four bombings.

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>There have been fatalities, there have also been some people

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>wounded as a result of it, and they're looking for

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>help right now down in Austin. They're looking for someone

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>to come forward from the public, because the analysis of

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>an actual bomb after it's gone off is a painstaking process.

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not something that happens very quickly. You need to

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>find the pieces of it, that shrapnel has to be analyzed.

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>You're looking for any signature that you can find on

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>any of this, looking for d n A, looking for

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the components. Using devices, can you reverse engineer the device

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>in such a way it might give you clues about

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>how someone put it together and where they got that information.

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe if you might get lucky and have some unique

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>component to it that is traceable, right, that's um, that

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is what I believe. That's actually how the Oklahoma City

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>bombing of the of the Federal building there by Timothy McVeigh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they found a VIN number among the UH

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in the debris and that was the big break in

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that case. You see, sometimes when you're looking for a bomber,

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:20.320
<v Speaker 1>they make it much easier. I remember during the Fisal

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Shazad case in two ten, the would be Times Square bomber.

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>He left the car that he tried to blow up,

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>make into a vehicle board and provides explosive device. He

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>left the car in times square, so you trace the

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>car and then you're able to trace the able to

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>find a whole bunch of information on they're able to

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>trace the phone that he had used. He had a

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe he had a burner phone. He had a

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>pay as he goes cell phone. Um. And then he

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>got to the airport and almost got back to Pakistan.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>They had to catch him on the plane at the airport.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>He almost got out of the country, but he did

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>leave clues. He left information that law enforcem could work with,

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.800
<v Speaker 1>including me. I remember being called in that weekend after

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the bomb almost went off. Um, he did not. He

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>was not a skilled bomb maker. Otherwise you would have

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>had a high casualty count that day. But this time

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 1>around with Austin, it doesn't look like police have have

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 1>much to go on so far. UM. Here's the Austin

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Police Chief on on where the investigation stands. There has

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>already been a significant presence from our federal partners since

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 1>these events began, and as we reported yesterday, we have

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:32.320
<v Speaker 1>over five hundred agents and their teams working on Austin

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>cases alone, and we have additional resources being brought in

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:39.240
<v Speaker 1>again by both of those agencies, And as has already

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.959
<v Speaker 1>been broadcast, there is a hundred thousand dollar reward out

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>there for someone who can give us a tip leading

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to the identification of the suspect or suspects in this incident.

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>So they're looking to law enforcems looking to get lucky.

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Here someone will come forward and say, you know what

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I've I've got something for you. Or maybe it's someone

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>who just wants the hundred k who was trying to

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>keep silent before mind their own business, so to speak,

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and now they're gonna step forward, and who knows, we'll

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>have to see. You have five agents working on this case.

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>In the Austin area. Four bombings as I As I mentioned,

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and the addition of a trigger device to this one

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>means that this is now something that could have I

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>could have gone off and killed anyone, children, anybody. I mean,

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like it is. Target of the first

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>three bombings were package bombs that were opened by individuals.

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.240
<v Speaker 1>They were left on there I believe, left on their porches,

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and they were left in what was a predominantly minority

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>area of Austin. So there was also initially put out

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:44.720
<v Speaker 1>there by I don't know if it was the media

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>or and law enforcement or just the media, but the

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.479
<v Speaker 1>notion this might have been a hate crime. Now it's

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>looking like there's a greater randomness to all of this.

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>The most recent bombing, I believe two people injured, neither

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 1>of them killed. But the most recent bombing was a

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>uh more well off part of the city and was

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>triggered by a trip wire. So that's just anybody in

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the area. People are asking the question about is this

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>terrorism or not. That's a discussion that I've gotten involved

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.439
<v Speaker 1>in at the national media level and a whole bunch

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of cases in the past. There's just not enough to

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>go on right now. We just don't know um and

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 1>anything put out there right now about motive feels like speculation.

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, this, this could be uh this could be

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>domestic terrorism. Absolutely. It also just could be a completely

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>sick and deranged individual who wants to send bombs or

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>or plant bombs and kill people just because you know,

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 1>we we don't know. So I don't have much on

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 1>the analytics side to give you on why I think

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>this person maybe this person is doing this. As to

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 1>how they find him, this is where you hope that

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>all these different ages. You've got a t F down there, FBI,

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Austin City Police, I'm sure you get state police. I'm

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>sure Texas Marshals are all the men. Everyone's FBI. Ever,

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 1>everyone's in on this one as they should be, um

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>because this is now a city under siege in a sense.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:19.280
<v Speaker 1>You've got people that are concerned about and and rightfully

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 1>so concerned about just walking around the streets. Right these

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>are essentially I e. D. S going off in Austin,

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and they have no real leads that we know of,

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 1>and there's no sense that they're gonna be able to

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>catch this person anytime imminently unless they get some sort

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of a break. Now we're hoping that maybe, uh, they'll

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>be able to reverse kind of the surveillance footage from

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>different cameras, maybe street cameras or um in different buildings nearby.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is where they try to piece together

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 1>whatever they can to just get that one break in

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the case, because right now it is bleak. It's terrible.

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I've read the stories of a young man who was killed,

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, opening this. He's with his mother, and mother

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 1>was severely injured. They brought this package into their into

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>their kitchen, and just this is it's so the whole

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:18.760
<v Speaker 1>thing is so evil and so senseless. So I really

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>hope that they managed to track down whoever is responsible

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and hold them to account and prosecute them the fullest

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>extent of the law. I'm assuming this was to me

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>on right on his face, this is a death penalty case. Um,

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>just based on what's going on already, and we'll have

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 1>to see if there's some kind of a manifesto, possible

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 1>political motivation behind this, you know, war against the government.

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Timothy with baby before. Someone who's you know,

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 1>who knows, could be any idea, you know, could be

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 1>any terrorist or extremist ideology. We just don't know right now.

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>We don't have much to go on. So if we

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>have anything that breaks during the show, I will bring

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>it to you. We're watching the case very close, Lee,

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and our thoughts and prayers are with those in the

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>city of Austin tonight. We're we're thinking about you also, um,

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, stay safe down there, and let's let law

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>enforce and do their work and hope they come up

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>with some solutions. Quickly, we'll hit a quick break. We'll

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be right back. Trump and trade and of course China, China.

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Trump talking about what he is going to do with tariffs.

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>But I've been trying to look at this from as

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>many perspectives as we possibly can here in the Freedom Hup.

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>We have somebody who is an actual expert on trade

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>will join us now here were the peace it's up

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>on the hill. How much does trade impact Americans? Not

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>all that much. We have Derek Scissors on the line.

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>He is an international coonymous at the American Enterprise Institute. Derek,

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. I'm glad to be here. So

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I really like your piece because you're saying, look, the

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>people that are saying that this is a huge deal,

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 1>and if Trump does this thing he says you're gonna do,

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the economy is gonna come tumbling down. It's a little

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>bit of chicken little going on. Yeah, It's the basic

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>story here on trade is if you have very strong,

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>paid trade policies for a long period of time, that

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.320
<v Speaker 1>can matter even to a really big country like the

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:34.320
<v Speaker 1>United States. But our economy, if you use gross domestic products,

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>is eighteen trillion dollars. Every steal on aluminum product. We

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>import everyone, no exceptions, all countries billion um. You do

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the math. It's just not a big deal. It's hard

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>for trade to matter to the U. S can have

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.399
<v Speaker 1>to matter the US over time. Sure can really big

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 1>sanctions against China matter. Sure the steel tariffs are not

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna matter. What do you say to people who say, oh,

0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 1>but Derek, if maybe it's only about fifty billions at

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>forty eight billions for stealing aluminium, but there will be

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 1>all of these reprisals and retaliation. Well, I mean the

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>rest of the world's We have the biggest coconomy in

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the world, but the rest of the world's economy is

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 1>bigger than ours. If we're importing forty eight billion dollars

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 1>from everybody and everybody's economy put together as bigger than ours,

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>why do they care so much about the forty eight

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars? There could be retaliation. I agree that the

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>retaliation will probably be worth about forty billion dollars um.

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 1>So this is not I think the way to attack

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the stealing aluminum terraces. What are we trying to accomplish?

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>And and that's where I would push the President of

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the administration, like what are we trying to accomplish here?

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Tell me exactly where you're going with this. But the

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>idea that what we did is really going to hurt

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>us or them or both of us, and then they're

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna do this, They're gonna have this huge retaliation. Why

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 1>would they have huge retaliation against what really is a

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 1>small trade step by the United States. They're gonna talk

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot about it because they want to look like

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>they're they're being tough for their own people, just like

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:58.800
<v Speaker 1>President Trump does. But again, their retaliation is going to

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 1>be small, just like our and was small. And in

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 1>terms of what China is doing, that is uh that

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that would go in the category of unfair. Just for

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody listening, Well, what does China do from a trade

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>perspective that gives them an advantage over rivals? That would

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>rufflesome feathers in the Trans Pacific partnership side of the aisle? Right,

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 1>the people that believe that if we all just got

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>together and did more trading, everything would be great, Well,

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>we do two things, one of which the administration is

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>looking into and we may hear what they're gonna do

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 1>about it as soon as this week, and the other one,

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>which I'll talk about a second, but the first one

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that the aministrat is looking into is they they steal

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>or or try to push companies into transferring technology or

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:44.280
<v Speaker 1>intellectual property. And basically the problem there is American firms

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>are the most innovative in the world. Not in every field,

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:48.800
<v Speaker 1>but overall, we have the most innovative companies, We have

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the most innovative workers, we have the most innovative people. Well,

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 1>if we innovate on the Chinese say hey, thanks for

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the innovation, we're just gonna steal it, or we're gonna

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>push your companies saying you can't do any business in

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>China unless turn over this technology. Um. They we don't

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 1>get the benefits from that that we should are are

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Our companies can't sell as many goods because the Chinese

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>are competing with them, which means fewer jobs for American workers.

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's what the administration is looking at right now.

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>It's it's China taking the thing that we do best

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and trying to steal the advantages of it. Um. The

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>other thing that they do is they heavily subsidize their

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:25.240
<v Speaker 1>their Some of their firms stayed on enterprises in China

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>and those firms don't export because even heavily subsidized, they're

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>not competitive. But it basically means that Chinese market is

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.760
<v Speaker 1>closed to a lot of American goods because Chinese standard

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 1>enterprises never lose. You can't outcompete them, you can't drive

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>them into bankruptcy because you have better products, you're a

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 1>better company, you're better workers, doesn't matter. They don't lose.

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's the block on the Chinese market that they

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:47.399
<v Speaker 1>don't let their stated on enterprises lose, and then if

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that weren't enough, they go out and they take American

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and other countries innovation. Now, the issue of technology is

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>actually something I'm going to address later from a national

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>security perspective. But when the president and everyone we're speaking

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>to Derek Scissors from the American Enterprise Institute, he's an

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 1>international economist. When the President says that we're getting killed

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>on trade, China is doing all this bad stuff on trade. Uh,

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>he's speaking in very general terms. But what is he

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>really trying to get at? Yeah, I mean that's that's

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a good question. During the campaign and and sometimes as

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>president of President President Trump has really emphasized cutting into

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the bilateral trade deficit. So if you can if you

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>include goods and services. The US has about a three

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.520
<v Speaker 1>billion dollar bilateral trade deficit with China last year, and

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.320
<v Speaker 1>President Trump just you know, that really bothers him, and

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>he'd like that to come down to, you know, a

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred billion dollars. He knows he's not going to go away,

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>but he wants an improvement. He wants it to stop

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>rising and start dropping. But does he have a point?

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Is that a problem because people tell us it's not

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a problem. I don't think that's the problem. This is

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:54.839
<v Speaker 1>the way I would put in. The US and China

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>have really big economies. You know, you put them together

0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:00.280
<v Speaker 1>in terms of gross domestic products GDP, it's thirty trillion dollars.

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>If the Chinese were good trade partners. If you had

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:04.880
<v Speaker 1>asked me a question, you said, you know, what do

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the Chinese do that that upsets people who you know,

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>have a very positive view of the world, um like

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.399
<v Speaker 1>our tv P partners. And I said, I I don't know,

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and none of my friends know. And we've been working

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.320
<v Speaker 1>at this for years and they're great trade partners. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't care about the trade deficits. What bothers me is

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>what they do the trade deficit is an outcome. So

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, three forty million do sounds like a lot

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.240
<v Speaker 1>of money. But if China was a great trade partner

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that was open to American products, that didn't steal American technology,

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I know that that's just the way

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 1>it is. The story I think the President is getting

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>at is they have that trade surplus because they're not

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>good trade partners, um and and you know what I

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.720
<v Speaker 1>want is to change their practices. I think the President

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.120
<v Speaker 1>would just be happy if the trade deficit fell for

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, for whatever reason, the Chinese just buy a

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 1>bunch of US soybeans, um. So there's a little bit

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 1>of a split there. I don't think the trade deficit

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 1>is a problem. I think what China does is the problem.

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the President really just wants the trade deficit

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>to shrink. And on the issue of UH steel specifically,

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 1>are we going to be able to see some improvement

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>in you know, US industry and steel output. But I

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:13.680
<v Speaker 1>would assume then if it's only fifty billion dollars or importing,

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 1>there are limitations on how much of an impact this

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:18.720
<v Speaker 1>will have in the economy apart from the national security

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>aspect of it. Right, and so yeah, I mean, if

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>if you apply tear after everyone, you didn't grant any exceptions,

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you and you've got all steel allans, the limited paris

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 1>only ten percent. You're not gonna stop importing forty eight

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars, which is the total last year. It's gonna drop.

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.920
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna drop to like thirty five billion because those

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 1>products got more expensive. So we're talking about thirteen billion

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.840
<v Speaker 1>dollars more production in the United States. That's not nothing.

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:47.160
<v Speaker 1>But for people who are familiar with this industry, even

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 1>steel is heavily automated. It's a lot of capital spending

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to set up a steel mill. They're not as many

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.959
<v Speaker 1>workers as there used to be. Would it create some jobs? Yeah?

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>How many jobs will it create? I'm afraid not very many.

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>It's also not going to cause the cost of your

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 1>car or your plane fly to your house to go

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>staring through the roof. That's my point about. You know,

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>both sides are exaggerating how important this is. But cutting

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 1>steel imports by ten fifteen billion dollars, it's it's just

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:13.959
<v Speaker 1>not going to create very many jobs. Let me ask

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you what we got you on the phone here. One

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 1>more about about NAFTA, You've said before that you've had

0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:21.360
<v Speaker 1>it on my show that NAFTA it is time for

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it to be renegotiated. So people that kind of roll

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>their eyes look skyward and all that when Trump says

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>we got to renegotiate NAFTA, it does need some some updating.

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>What would be the best way for Trump to go

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>about that? Right, So, it absolutely needs some updating. It's

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a twenty three year old agreement. It was path breaking

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>at the time. You know, whether you think it's terrible

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:43.879
<v Speaker 1>or great, people tend to agree that it was path breaking. Um,

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it does need some updating. The world has changed a

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>lot since then. You know, we didn't have digital trade then,

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have trade through the internet. We didn't have

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:53.319
<v Speaker 1>people buying things online and anything like the quantities that

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>we have now. So, I mean there's another situation where

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I think the President is right that it needs updated.

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I think what the administration is negotiating with to try

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to modernize the agreement and to say to Mexican Canada, look,

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the US is very good at services. You need to

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.320
<v Speaker 1>allow us to be able to sell our stuff digitally

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and not have taxes or restrictions or planning games. So

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:15.319
<v Speaker 1>that those are good things to try to do. The

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:18.480
<v Speaker 1>President also really wants our bilateral trade deficit with Mexico

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 1>to fall, and that's going to be really hard because

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the Mexican economy is basically not growing. So if you're

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 1>just trying to upgrade and improve nafter, you can do it.

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:28.359
<v Speaker 1>And if you in the Mexicans and the Canadians don't

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:29.960
<v Speaker 1>go along, it's their fault. But if you're trying to

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:32.360
<v Speaker 1>get the trade deficit the fall, that's gonna be a

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>tough sell. Because we're growing faster than Mexico. It's gonna

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 1>be really hard for them to buy more products from

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the United States when they're not buying more of their

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 1>own products. Derek Scissors of AI. Everybody go to a

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 1>EI dot org to read their latest research. Derek, thank

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining. Thanks to your peace. Thank you.

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it. Say we're gonna roll into a quick break,

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 1>will be back in just a few minutes. We're gonna

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 1>have Jesse Kelly joining later this hour. Talk about raising

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 1>young men because he's got a couple of young men

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that he's raising kids. I don't, so he's an expert

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 1>on that. I'm not. You'll be joining. We'll talk about that.

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Stay with me. He's back with you now, because when

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops.

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 1>As a millennial, I've heard a lot of the stories

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 1>out there from those of you who are boomers gen xers.

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Is Jen why a thing too about how you know, well,

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 1>when I was going to college, I I was a

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>bar back and I you know, worked as a golf

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>golf caddy over the summer, and you know, you have

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you have all these stories about how you're saving money

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:50.320
<v Speaker 1>for college or or raising money for your college tuition

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>when you're in it, and they make great stories to

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 1>tell your kids. And one of the get off my

0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>lawn things you often hear from the boomer generation is,

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:02.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, kids these days, they're just they expect someone

0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 1>else to pay for it, or it's all it's all

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 1>taking out debt, and then they're hoping the debt will

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 1>just be wiped away. I would note that that is

0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a major major platform for the sander Nista left wing

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Democrat Party going forward. You got a trillion

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 1>dollar student loan bubble out there, people are just gonna

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 1>say that, yeah, just we should just have debt forgiveness

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 1>of it, just forgive the debt. What do they think

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:28.799
<v Speaker 1>about what that would mean? No, they don't. But it's

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:31.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna get bigger because there's no way people are gonna

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 1>be able to pay off a lot of those loans um.

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.640
<v Speaker 1>But there's a great piece in the New York Time,

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the Wall Street Journal at the New

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:41.760
<v Speaker 1>York Times, you can't work your way through college anymore,

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and it just talks about how different the situation is

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:49.879
<v Speaker 1>now when you're talking about a particularly a four year

0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:52.000
<v Speaker 1>private college, but even a lot of these states schools.

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 1>The difference between what it used to be to go

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to a place like Yale, for example, very fancy, very

0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 1>elite school, versus what it would be to go to

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Yale today. And this is then filters down all the

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 1>way across the spectrum. So the notion that you could

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 1>wait tables, you know, you could have some job as

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>a lifeguard at the beach, save money and pay off

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a semester at college that's gone, you would have to

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 1>be making well. He gives you this, gives you the

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:23.080
<v Speaker 1>numbers here, and I'll walk you through someone numbers. Here's

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>what he writes. This is by Richard West the Wall

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Street Journal. That's right for all you get off my

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>law types. You guys, when it when it came to

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.840
<v Speaker 1>college tuition, I'm gonna say it, you had it easy.

0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 1>You had it easy compared to what's going on today.

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:38.720
<v Speaker 1>It is out of control now. And I would also

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:40.840
<v Speaker 1>know that you're supposed to get an advanced degree now,

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:42.960
<v Speaker 1>just to have one, even if you don't use it.

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.320
<v Speaker 1>And I know so many people that have j d s.

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, went to law school, and it's like, oh,

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 1>what do you do? I work in marketing? What do

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you Why do you have a j d? Heh? You know?

0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Is you know? I gotta gotta be competitive three years

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>of law school anyway. Here's what Richard West writes in

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.959
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty six as a freshman at year Yil. Here's

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a Yale man, he's a yearly. I waited tables in

0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:08.840
<v Speaker 1>a student dorm for about one dollar an hour, ten

0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:12.320
<v Speaker 1>hours a week. I received a full scholarship. But even

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 1>if it had ended, I recall that Yale's all in

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>price is amazing. Yale is all in price, including tuition,

0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 1>room and board, was eighteen hundred dollars a year. And

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 1>my work while in school during the term ten hours

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 1>a week would have covered a sixth of that, So

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.919
<v Speaker 1>you would while you're in school. This is not even

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 1>paying it off after you get out of school. While

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you were in school in six you could pay off

0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a chunk of your Yale tuition, and then when you

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 1>graduate you have even lesson. As everyone knows, you've gotta

0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:50.080
<v Speaker 1>pay interest on the debt and everything else on the loan.

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:53.880
<v Speaker 1>He goes on. Today, tuition room and board of Yale

0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 1>run sixty six thousand, nine hundred dollars. Now for a

0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, I know they're gonna say a book

0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundred dollars and nineteen fifty six was a lot

0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>more than than it is today. Uh, it wasn't sixty

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars. Might have been I don't know. We

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>could actually look at what the uh what the inflation

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:15.440
<v Speaker 1>calculator would say for it. I don't know, maybe maybe

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 1>five ten x, you know, maybe something like that. It was.

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't almost seventy grand now eighteen hundred bucks and

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty six wasn't seventy thousand dollars? Okay, so that

0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 1>much I know, no false, And we're not talking about

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty six. This is nineteen fifty six. So he

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 1>goes into some of the number crunching here. This is

0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 1>just before we all, you know, hear all the stories.

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:43.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, order order trojure my university classes and four

0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>fut or snow. And I was carrying on my back

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the lumber for my job as a campus lumberjack. You know,

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I was carrying around paying her off the hard waree

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 1>splinters in my hands when I was doing multi variable calculus.

0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, we hear all these stories. You know, people,

1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, are you finished with the sawmill at nine am?

1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was on campus at ten am paying it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's all great, but it doesn't really work that

1:00:09.040 --> 1:00:12.840
<v Speaker 1>way anymore. Here's what he writes. Quote today, tuition, room

1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and board at Yale run sixty six dollars working the

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<v Speaker 1>same amount as I did even at twelve dollars an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>An increase of roughly one third after inflation, produces income

1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:29.040
<v Speaker 1>of thirty six dollars, or slightly more than five of

1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the total to earn enough to pay for one sixth

1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of a Yale education, which require an hourly wage of

1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:44.120
<v Speaker 1>more than thirty seven dollars. Yeah, not a lot of

1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:46.760
<v Speaker 1>college kids are getting thirty seven dollars an hour for

1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:50.640
<v Speaker 1>their job unless they're an s A T hooter maybe um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what that markets like these days either,

1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:55.600
<v Speaker 1>but this is where we start to look at how

1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.959
<v Speaker 1>higher education is just completely out of control in terms

1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of costs right now. I also think the quality has

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<v Speaker 1>gone down dramatically. You look at what was required curriculum

1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of these schools back in the fifties

1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:09.439
<v Speaker 1>and sixty So for the get off my law types

1:01:09.480 --> 1:01:11.560
<v Speaker 1>out there, you've got some you've got some stuff, you've

1:01:11.560 --> 1:01:14.920
<v Speaker 1>got some likes to stand on. Uh. But now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get everyone coming out of school with women in

1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:21.640
<v Speaker 1>gender studies degree thirty forty fifty, sometimes a hundred thousand

1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:26.440
<v Speaker 1>dollars in debt, and this has become the norm. This

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<v Speaker 1>is now the expectation for a lot of well, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the expectation, and society is is pushing people into this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just assumed that you shouldn't do trade school. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just and I want to say, assumed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you are like Buck, I went to trade school.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't assume that. I'm talking about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the general cultural thrust right, the uh, the media, the

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<v Speaker 1>institutions around us. How do here's a good example, how

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<v Speaker 1>do high schools generally measure the success of their graduates?

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<v Speaker 1>What percentage go to college? It's not what percentage get

1:02:03.000 --> 1:02:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a good paying job right away and start saving for

1:02:06.040 --> 1:02:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a down payment on a house and creating skills and

1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:11.960
<v Speaker 1>financial security for themselves. That's not how they measure success.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe they should change that a little bit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they should probably have a what yeah, okay, what level

1:02:17.560 --> 1:02:21.120
<v Speaker 1>of people are uh coming out here? What percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>people are coming out and going to college? But it

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<v Speaker 1>would also be worthwhile to have what percentage of students

1:02:27.240 --> 1:02:31.600
<v Speaker 1>leave this high school and have gainful employment within the first,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twelve months of graduating. If that's what they

1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:37.200
<v Speaker 1>choose to do, we really need to change this. If

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<v Speaker 1>if I knew now, or if I knew them what

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<v Speaker 1>I know now about what it would mean to go

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<v Speaker 1>away for four years and be told to just study

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<v Speaker 1>and better myself and read. Oh my gosh. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think even spending a year to working or serving your

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<v Speaker 1>country the military is an obvious choice, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>other capacities in which I think service would even be

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<v Speaker 1>very illuminate eating. This needs to be a much bigger

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<v Speaker 1>national conversation along with school choice. Uh. There are so

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<v Speaker 1>many places here where conservatives are actually on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the conservatives are on the side of innovation and improvement.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the liberals who are part of these sclerotic,

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<v Speaker 1>stubborn bureaucracy that refuses to change, that excuses failure, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>always finds a way to transfer the responsibility to failure

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<v Speaker 1>onto someone else's shoulders. And it's just unwilling to look

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<v Speaker 1>at what's really happening in education in this country despite

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<v Speaker 1>all the spending. You know, they're so quick to make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of Betsy Devas, who's at least trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>something to help kids in particularly inner city schools, in

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<v Speaker 1>in minority uh minority areas with low average incomes. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to help those students, and people want to

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<v Speaker 1>mock her. I know she's mocked on SNL over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>When I look at this now and I see top

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<v Speaker 1>to bottom education has become too expensive. It is not better.

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<v Speaker 1>It is focusing on less applicable skills, and it's inexcusable

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<v Speaker 1>because technology and the availability of information has never been

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<v Speaker 1>better than it is right now. So we've just got

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up with some of the ideas and policies

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<v Speaker 1>and use the technologies we have so that everybody's finding

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<v Speaker 1>their best path, whatever that may be. I gotta roll,

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<v Speaker 1>no break team, I'll be back. Welcome back everyone. We

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna switch gears here for a moment and uh

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<v Speaker 1>get into some some man time. We've got Jesse Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>with us. He is a former Marine. He is also

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<v Speaker 1>former Congressional Kennedy. He writes, he does TV appearances. He's

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<v Speaker 1>all around pundit and uh opinionated fellow. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>great piece up on the federal list. Why a good

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<v Speaker 1>father prepares his sons for war, and we have Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>now to tell us why that is. Jesse, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining Good talk to Are you down

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas? Where are you right now? Coming to us Fry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down in Texas. I'm down in Houston. So I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you Northeast people are freezing at tests up there

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<v Speaker 1>because it's eighty degrees down here and follow me. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I am refusing to believe that we are

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<v Speaker 1>about to get hit. Almost I think to the day

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<v Speaker 1>the first day of spring with the North easter. That

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like it's too cruel. But enjoy, enjoy your

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<v Speaker 1>your warmth down in Texas while we freeze up here.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jesse, tell me about why good good son prepared, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>a good father prepares his son for war, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>why that's part of the reason why men were created

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<v Speaker 1>on the men are the protectors of society, not of

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<v Speaker 1>just this society, of any society, and power never disappears,

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<v Speaker 1>it just changed his hands. So if we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>strong men, then you get bullies and jerks who pick

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<v Speaker 1>on the week. And that's why you're seeing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more of that in this society today because we're rating

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<v Speaker 1>and raising a connald generation of boys, and we've told

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<v Speaker 1>them they need to be sensitive and all these other

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<v Speaker 1>things instead of telling them you need to be a man,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to protect those weaker than you. And Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned in your piece a journalist by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of will likech I believe, who wrote about his experience

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<v Speaker 1>shooting a twenty gauge, not even a twelve gauge, a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty gage shotgun. Can you just give us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of the backstory there, because this is quite this

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<v Speaker 1>is quite a tale. Somebody sent me the tale. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>this Will has a series. I mean, he has an

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<v Speaker 1>actual series about raising boys. He's got a couple of songs,

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<v Speaker 1>and he tells the story about how horrible guns are

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<v Speaker 1>and how scared he was. I guess when he was

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<v Speaker 1>a boy, just a young boy. His dad just hand

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<v Speaker 1>him at twenty gauge with no instructions, no help, no

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<v Speaker 1>safety classes. The kid holds it up, a from his body,

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<v Speaker 1>shoots off around into a field. The gun goes flying,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids scared to death. That's good. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>most embarrassing thing I have ever read in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as a fatherhood thing. That's not Will's problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Will's father's problem. Every man should teach his son

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<v Speaker 1>how to handle a weapon comfortably. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>raise the Navy seal. Teach your son how to handle

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<v Speaker 1>himself with a weapon, hand with safely, make sure he

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<v Speaker 1>respects it, make sure he knows how deadly it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and that teach him to be fast and deadly with it,

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<v Speaker 1>because he may have to do one that. I also

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<v Speaker 1>had to note that in in this piece. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, so Jesse, you now realize that it is

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<v Speaker 1>incumbent upon you to write how to How to Raise

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<v Speaker 1>a Son properly series, right, because we've got the progressive

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<v Speaker 1>left wing version from this fellow Mr Leitch, but now

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<v Speaker 1>we need the Jesse Kelly version in in total, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this piece is a great start, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm just gonna put some more work on your plate, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>along with the podcast, and we're gonna keep hearing the

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<v Speaker 1>freedom of demanding you launch in the next six months.

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<v Speaker 1>But tell me, tell me more about will Light and

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<v Speaker 1>this notion that he's upset that his children are sick

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<v Speaker 1>or that his his boy specifically because they're white males,

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<v Speaker 1>are succeeding, and how that's not good. He gets a

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<v Speaker 1>call into his teacher, to his son's teacher. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife's go in and sit down in front of

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<v Speaker 1>his son's teacher and finds out that his kid is

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<v Speaker 1>doing great in school, that his kid is brilliant and

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<v Speaker 1>personable and his grades are great, and the teacher specifically

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<v Speaker 1>said his son was a golden child, and was Will happy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>But also, and he writes us down in the piece,

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<v Speaker 1>a part of him was really concerned, does his son

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<v Speaker 1>only have that success at the expense of the others.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't and I quote this, haven't white men already succeeded enough?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I cannot imagine how twisted up and tormented

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be as a father to get a

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<v Speaker 1>glowing report about your son and be uneasy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a mixed up person in science, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna mixed up as boys if you pass down to

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<v Speaker 1>we're speaking of Jesse Kelly's former marine and uh you

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<v Speaker 1>can follow him on Twitter at Jesse Kelly d C Jesse. I.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked the part of your article in The

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<v Speaker 1>Federalist here where you went into it's not just about

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<v Speaker 1>don't allow yourself to be bullied. It's also teaching your

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<v Speaker 1>kids don't allow anyone to bully somebody else. That that bullying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's all these national anti bullying campaigns, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all fine and good. I think sometimes totally they're

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<v Speaker 1>a little off as to how to prevent bullying. But

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<v Speaker 1>bullying is very bad. But the real way to get

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<v Speaker 1>it to stop is one, as you said, as a father,

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<v Speaker 1>tell your kids, I better never hear about you bullying

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else who's weaker than you, because I will ring

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<v Speaker 1>down the fury. Uh and too if you see, if

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<v Speaker 1>you see anyone else who is being bullied you, as

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<v Speaker 1>an honorable young man, it is incumbent upon you to

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<v Speaker 1>step in and stop that bullying. It is everything that

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<v Speaker 1>the people praying on the week are the worst people

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and part of every man's duty is

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<v Speaker 1>to stop that, put a stop to that. And you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>My sons have been told several times you will never

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<v Speaker 1>bully somebody, or you will not enjoy it, but you

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<v Speaker 1>will stop a bully. And if you get in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>in school or you get sent home, you get suspended

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of days. Guess what that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>an enjoy a couple of enjoyable couple of days for you,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna be in no trouble in my household.

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<v Speaker 1>A few months ago, my nine year old stop the

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<v Speaker 1>bully in school was taken on another small kid. As

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine, I'm huge and my son is huge,

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<v Speaker 1>and he put a stop to it. I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>so proud of my dad on life, and that extends

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<v Speaker 1>into adulthood too. That's not just the schoolyard camp campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason you see so much of this disgusting harassment

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<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood is because there were Matt No meds to

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<v Speaker 1>stand there, no man to step in and tell Harvey

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<v Speaker 1>Weinstein to sit down or he's gonna get touched in

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<v Speaker 1>his face. Because all the anti bullying programs in the

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<v Speaker 1>world are fine, that's good, but there is still no

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<v Speaker 1>substitute for balling up your fists and smashing it into

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's nose. Jesse, what are the two or three most

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<v Speaker 1>important things that you think that right now, every uh

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<v Speaker 1>young man in America should hear from either father, older brother, guardian,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it is that is the the the prominent male

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<v Speaker 1>figure in his life. What what are the two or

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<v Speaker 1>three things you think everyone should be told now, given

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<v Speaker 1>the direction of the culture, which is obviously not really

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<v Speaker 1>handling this the way that it should. No whining life

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<v Speaker 1>is unfair, and it is your duty to protect those

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<v Speaker 1>who are weaker than you. All right, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>We can put that on a we just put that

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<v Speaker 1>on a T shirt. Actually, Jesse Kelly was I'm with it,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, Jesse. Your piece and the Federalist is great.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody should check it out. It is all about how

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<v Speaker 1>to raise a son who is quote prepared for war,

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<v Speaker 1>not just in the military sense, but in the being

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<v Speaker 1>a good person who defends other sense. Jesse, anywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>want to direct the folks listening to find your stuff

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<v Speaker 1>for more what you're up to. Come find everything I

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<v Speaker 1>do on Twitter at Jesse Kelly d C. Every article

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<v Speaker 1>I do, everything I talk about everybody'll hit. Everything I

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<v Speaker 1>do is all on there at Jesse Kelly DC. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also have a Facebook page Jesse Kelly. If you

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<v Speaker 1>start it should pop right up. All right. Fantastic, Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, sir for your service, for your time,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the drinks you're gonna buy me the next

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<v Speaker 1>time you're New York City. I appreciate it. I got

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<v Speaker 1>your brother. I'll be there all right, talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>to Jesse. Thanks man. Alright, team, we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>roll into a break here for the third hour of

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<v Speaker 1>the Box Sexton Show, which is going to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>bit about China and how they're stealing our technology. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear it. He's back with you now because

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>never stops. You are now entering the Tle Operations Center.

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<v Speaker 1>A programs must be kept strictly need to know Team

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<v Speaker 1>Bucket is cleared and ready for the buck Brief. How

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<v Speaker 1>China pushes the limits on military technology transfer is the

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<v Speaker 1>title of the article in the Wall Street Journal. It

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<v Speaker 1>should be how China is stealing us blind when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to our most critical national security technology are most

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<v Speaker 1>critical commercial proprietary technology, and how this is not only

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<v Speaker 1>being done on a scale that would infuriate most Americans

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<v Speaker 1>if they actually knew what the heck was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's largely being done out in the open. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me explain. This was a piece by a memory of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress Bob Pittinger where he's talking about some of these

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<v Speaker 1>joint projects that are out there. I mentioned this to

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<v Speaker 1>you last week, how uh broad Colm was not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to take over quaal Calm. These are very high tech

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<v Speaker 1>chip manufacturers and telecommunication companies because President Trump was just like, Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. There are important national security implications for

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<v Speaker 1>this technology. We can't let China be in control of

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<v Speaker 1>one of our most important, one of our most important

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<v Speaker 1>companies in that area. Technically, the company would have been

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<v Speaker 1>owned in Singapore, would have been acquired by a Singapore

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<v Speaker 1>based company, but Singapore has deep ties to China. The

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese have a lot of influence to bring to bear

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<v Speaker 1>in Singapore, and if they had slowed things down or

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<v Speaker 1>Garne in another direction, that Chinese could indirectly get a

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<v Speaker 1>major advantage in the race for five G telecommunication technology.

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<v Speaker 1>This is important stuff, folks, and we think about it

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<v Speaker 1>in the data day as well. This would mean you

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<v Speaker 1>could download an entire high definition movie in a second

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<v Speaker 1>instead of twenty minutes on your WiFi. Think about what

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<v Speaker 1>that also means though, for the transfer of military technology

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<v Speaker 1>and for just communication across the board. This is critical stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet this somehow he's into major story. We also

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<v Speaker 1>don't hear much about what the Chinese are really up

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<v Speaker 1>to in the open. Recently, we've gotten a better sense

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<v Speaker 1>of what they're hacking. UH efforts have led to. We're

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<v Speaker 1>getting we're starting to learn more from our own government

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<v Speaker 1>about just how intrusive Chinese hacking efforts have been into

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<v Speaker 1>our systems. But what about the things that are happening

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<v Speaker 1>out in the open. This is from this Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>journal piece. I wanted to share some of it with

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<v Speaker 1>you and then tell you that it's even worse than

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Pittinger is saying here. But here's how he starts

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<v Speaker 1>the piece. Quote, for years, the Chinese government has evaded

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<v Speaker 1>America's technology transfer safeguards and been allowed to vacuum up

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<v Speaker 1>military applicable technologies from US companies. The Chinese have perfected

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<v Speaker 1>the weaponization of investment as a legal means to achieve

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<v Speaker 1>this massive transfer of dual use technology, bolstering China's military modernization.

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<v Speaker 1>If the US loses its military technology advantage over China

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<v Speaker 1>and other adversaries, it will one day cost American lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And he cites specifically the effort by Broadcom, Singapore based

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<v Speaker 1>company to take over Qualcom, which Trump shot down. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at what has already happened, what is

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<v Speaker 1>already going on here, you see that there are US

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<v Speaker 1>companies that are lobbying against any restrictions on their very

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<v Speaker 1>cozy relationships with Chinese based companies because they want access

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<v Speaker 1>to the markets. This is about the bottom line for

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<v Speaker 1>those companies. But in order to get access to the markets,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, the Chinese Communist Party, which runs the economy

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the government, will insist on US companies

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<v Speaker 1>sharing some very sensitive dual use technology. This has happened

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<v Speaker 1>in many cases as cited in this piece in the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal. Here are just a few of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote in general, Electric formed a joint venture with Aviation

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<v Speaker 1>Industry Corporation of China, one of China's premier state owned

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<v Speaker 1>enterprises and the primary supplier of aircraft for China's military.

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<v Speaker 1>Sharing cutting edge avionics technology, a v i C now

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<v Speaker 1>has an enhanced capability to produce high performance aircraft cockpit

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<v Speaker 1>controls and displays, as well as communications and navigation systems

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<v Speaker 1>which it can adapt for Chinese warplanes. So thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>JEEZ venture in China, Chinese war fighters, specifically in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>aviators might have an advantage in the future. This is

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<v Speaker 1>very serious stuff, and I think part of the problem

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<v Speaker 1>here is that the left and academia in this country

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<v Speaker 1>do not want us to know. They do not want

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<v Speaker 1>you to be familiar with the full extent of the

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet penetration of sensitive US government agencies. They're basically was

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<v Speaker 1>a Soviet agent in every single major US government agency

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<v Speaker 1>at the start of the Cold War and all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up to those with direct access to the President.

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<v Speaker 1>The Soviet theft of nuclear technology because of the Rosenbergs

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<v Speaker 1>is somewhat well known, but how many Americans know that

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<v Speaker 1>the penetrations of US avionics technology, for example, led to

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<v Speaker 1>us to miscalculate what kind of advantage we would have

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<v Speaker 1>in the air. During the Korean War. We figured that

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<v Speaker 1>our first generation of jets, never mind even on some

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<v Speaker 1>of our propeller planes, would dominate the skies in our

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<v Speaker 1>fight with North Korea. But guess what. The MiG fighters

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<v Speaker 1>they came up against were flying circles around the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>we put up in the air. Because the Soviets had

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<v Speaker 1>stolen our best stuff and used it for their own purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually had an advantage. And therefore Soviet planes that

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<v Speaker 1>we went up against in the Korean War had an advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how the great game of nation states and

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<v Speaker 1>civilizations has played out for millennia, and we in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, are blithely unbothered by what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's time for all of us to wake up on

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<v Speaker 1>this one. This is where the important I've got more

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<v Speaker 1>for you from this Wall Street Journal piece quote in

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<v Speaker 1>ten Ge formed a joint venture with another Chinese company

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<v Speaker 1>handing over advanced battery technology that could have battlefield applications

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<v Speaker 1>such as powering heavy ground vehicles. The same year, General

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<v Speaker 1>Electric formed a partnership with Chinese government affiliated Huawei to

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<v Speaker 1>develop cloud based industrial applications for the Internet of Things.

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<v Speaker 1>This arrangement could result in long term cyber vulnerabilities for

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<v Speaker 1>the US, in part because, like so many so called

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<v Speaker 1>private companies in China, Huawei is beholden to the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>Communist Party and is functionally an arm of the Chinese government.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like I said. Likewise, IBM has systematically transferred high

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<v Speaker 1>and computing technology to China. By according to a working

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<v Speaker 1>group of experts in the National Security Agency and Energy Department,

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<v Speaker 1>China had attained a near peer status with the US

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<v Speaker 1>in high performance computing. Without a doubt, IBMS technology transfers

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<v Speaker 1>have contributed to China's enhanced high performance computing capabilities. This

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<v Speaker 1>will lead to a severe compromise of our national security

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<v Speaker 1>as we have a loss of leadership and high performance

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<v Speaker 1>computing end quote I mean, and there's even more in

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<v Speaker 1>IBM formed a joint venture with a Chinese company in spur,

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<v Speaker 1>handing over the capability to manufacture its own computer servers.

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<v Speaker 1>That same year, IBM established a partnership with the state

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<v Speaker 1>owned China Telecom, agreeing to hand over cloud computing technology. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>We have US based companies that are handing over the

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<v Speaker 1>keys to the store, and yeah, they're doing it because

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<v Speaker 1>they want access to the Chinese markets. They're just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at their bottom line. But there are clear dual use

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<v Speaker 1>applications here, and this is the kind of technology that

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<v Speaker 1>if we actually go to war with China in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>could be a major problem for us. Think about a

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<v Speaker 1>world in which China actually has the technological advantage over

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<v Speaker 1>us militarily. What if they have the best, the fastest,

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<v Speaker 1>the smartest in planes, submarines, technology of all kinds that's

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<v Speaker 1>applicable in the battlefield. That's what we are heading toward

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<v Speaker 1>right now. If we don't get a handle on this,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so much our R and D can do

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<v Speaker 1>to keep us ahead of China if China can keep

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<v Speaker 1>stealing our research and development. And yet everyone's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>asleep on this one for the most part. We all

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<v Speaker 1>just want cheap flat screen televisions and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>junks sent over in huge quantities for us to purchase

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<v Speaker 1>at the cheapest possible price, and companies like General Electric

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<v Speaker 1>and IBM are just happy to pad their bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't see or don't care to see the national

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<v Speaker 1>secure the implications of this. But when we faced off

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<v Speaker 1>against our most recent near peer global competitor, the Soviet Union,

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<v Speaker 1>it was our technological advantage that was among the most

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<v Speaker 1>important things We had to keep them in check. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>our economy ran them into the ground, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>much closer to us militarily than they should have been

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<v Speaker 1>at numerous points in the Cold War. Because of all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. The Soviets stole Chinese how the second biggest

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<v Speaker 1>economy in the world, and it's growing very rapidly. They

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<v Speaker 1>have embraced a market mentality for the purposes of wealth

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<v Speaker 1>creation and production. It's just state controlled, but their economy

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to creater and collapse into nothing. They

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<v Speaker 1>are looking to supplant us as the most powerful nation

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<v Speaker 1>on earth, and they're stealing some of our most valuable

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<v Speaker 1>intellectual property in that pursuit. And not only that, we

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<v Speaker 1>have US companies that are handing it over to them.

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<v Speaker 1>The Trump administration needs to take action here. I'll follow

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<v Speaker 1>up more on there's a bill making its way through

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<v Speaker 1>Congress that will discuss In fact, I'll try to see

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<v Speaker 1>if you get one of the co authors, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>the author of this piece in the Wall Street Journalill

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<v Speaker 1>come on and talk. I've got more team, stay with me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only a matter of time before it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, and now it has. The first person on

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<v Speaker 1>record has been killed by a self driving or autonomous vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened in Arizona, and it is the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>It will not be the last time. But it does

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<v Speaker 1>have some implications I think for where all this is heading,

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<v Speaker 1>where all this self driving phenomenon is gonna go. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And first of all, it's just it's tragic, you imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was somebody behind the wheel of this

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<v Speaker 1>uber self driving car in Arizona, but they put it

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<v Speaker 1>on autopilot essentially, and it struck a woman in a crosswalk.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's what I've known all along about this. People

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<v Speaker 1>say that there are roughly what, gosh, I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand. I think auto fatality is a year something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, something in that neighborhood. Maybe it's less now

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<v Speaker 1>I think that might have been the all time high. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing about those fatalities is that they are

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<v Speaker 1>spread out among Oh wow, forty forty thousand people died

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<v Speaker 1>in motorbile vehicle accidents. I thought it was thirty thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>It's even more than I thought. But a vast majority

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<v Speaker 1>people don't often talk about this vast majority of vehicular

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<v Speaker 1>fatalities involve driver error, which is not surprising. Um In

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<v Speaker 1>in many cases I should actually check and see what

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<v Speaker 1>the stats are. I think it's just people that make

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake, much more so than it is people who

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<v Speaker 1>are impaired or who are doing anything illegal necessarily during

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people forget to look one way and you

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<v Speaker 1>know they go through the light or things like that

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<v Speaker 1>are are obviously a large portion I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the what the percentages are, but a large portion of

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<v Speaker 1>auti fatalities. But anytime a person dies in a car crash.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one thing that here in New York City

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<v Speaker 1>growing up was was different than it was in other

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<v Speaker 1>places around the country. I remember when I got to college,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed how friends of mine, all of my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much to a person, had at least one of

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<v Speaker 1>their friends died in a car accident in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a high school aged person that they knew

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<v Speaker 1>had died in a car accident. At worst. Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from New York City, none of us even were driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Really maybe some of us. I drove senior year of

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<v Speaker 1>high school, but that just wasn't a problem for for

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<v Speaker 1>us to be worried about. We had we had other

1:27:02.240 --> 1:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>things to worry about. But anyway, the overwhelming number of

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<v Speaker 1>cases of a driver of fatalities a driver air but

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<v Speaker 1>in all those forty thousand or so deaths, the liability

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<v Speaker 1>for it is spread around to the individuals involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the crash, not the car company. Al Right, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a a Ford Fiesta and you crash into

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's in a Prius and there's a fatality in

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<v Speaker 1>that other car, that's something that you and your insurance

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<v Speaker 1>companies are dealing with, but it's not something that falls

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<v Speaker 1>squarely on the shoulders of the manufacturer. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how they're going to handle this from an insurance standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there probably are ways, which is why they're

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing this. But if any time there's a autonomous vehicular

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<v Speaker 1>accident that ends in a fatality, it ends up being

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<v Speaker 1>the company's fault, the company can be sued. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see how you have a situation that doesn't essentially turn

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<v Speaker 1>into the equivalent of one long running class action lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>against Uber or against whichever company wins this race for

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<v Speaker 1>autonomous driving dominance. And I also know that there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that are gonna that are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>push back against having all of the different vehicles out

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<v Speaker 1>there that are machine driven, that are run by algorithms,

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<v Speaker 1>that are run by artificial intelligence. People like to drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone in my family, all the males in my family,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, really like driving a lot. I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with it, but I don't enjoy it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>whenever someone says, hey, I'll drive you, I'm always like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds good, go ahead. You know. I'm not somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who fights for the steering row. I just don't really care.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also someone who now has avoided I haven't rented

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<v Speaker 1>a car in in years because I would just prefer

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<v Speaker 1>to Uber wherever I am, I have no entry. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had some of the most negative consumer experiences of my

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<v Speaker 1>life have involved car companies. I hate the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the hard sell for the bogus additional insurance,

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<v Speaker 1>all the little extras they try to throw on. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>here's your little garment GPS, and if you lose it,

1:29:14.720 --> 1:29:16.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like a thousand dollars or some I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, right, I hate all that stuff. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a big Uber proponent. I just don't know how Google Uber.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a massive technology race that's going on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they deal with the issue of

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<v Speaker 1>the liability of if you are relying on computers to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, you know, if you're relying on computers to

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<v Speaker 1>be driving vehicles, unless you can dramatically drop down the number,

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<v Speaker 1>which is part of the argument. I mean, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of interesting philosophical components here, but unless you dramatically

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<v Speaker 1>drive down the number of overall fatalities, it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that you have a big problem of how do

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<v Speaker 1>we pay for all of the liability that we have

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of this? You know, computers are gonna fail,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's just another And this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>technology based argument, um, And we're gonna be switching here

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<v Speaker 1>into a discussion of a movie that I saw over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend in a few minutes, The Shape of Water.

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<v Speaker 1>It was terrible, but I'll give you more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, I get a little nervous even with things

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<v Speaker 1>like elevators. Having been stuck in my fair share of elevators,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just hate that sense of loss of control.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if someone shows me the statistics about driving a

1:30:35.840 --> 1:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>car or someone else driving me in a car, that

1:30:37.840 --> 1:30:40.519
<v Speaker 1>it's much less safe than what the autonomous vehicles will

1:30:40.520 --> 1:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>be able to to accomplish in in a few short years.

1:30:44.439 --> 1:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a part of all of us, that

1:30:46.000 --> 1:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a part of us as human beings that just

1:30:48.160 --> 1:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to have some say, some control

1:30:52.120 --> 1:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>over are well, whether we live or die in this case.

1:30:56.880 --> 1:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>And even if the technology is better, it's gonna take

1:30:58.800 --> 1:31:01.599
<v Speaker 1>a while for us to switch about anyways. Autonomous vehicle

1:31:01.600 --> 1:31:03.479
<v Speaker 1>as a subject. We'll get into more going forward, but

1:31:03.960 --> 1:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>first fatality and uh, it's gonna slow this whole process

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<v Speaker 1>down a bit, and very sad. We're gonna run to

1:31:10.200 --> 1:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a quick break team. We'll be right back. He's back

1:31:23.080 --> 1:31:25.439
<v Speaker 1>with you now, because when it comes to the fight

1:31:25.520 --> 1:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>for truth, the fuck never stops. This may very well

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<v Speaker 1>be the most sensitive asset ever to be housed in

1:31:32.920 --> 1:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>this facility. You may think that thing looks human, stands

1:31:39.200 --> 1:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>on two legs, right, but we're created in the Lord.

1:31:43.120 --> 1:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>J You don't think that's what the Lord looks like.

1:31:46.280 --> 1:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>This creature is intelligent, capable of language, of understanding emotions.

1:32:02.880 --> 1:32:06.479
<v Speaker 1>When he looks at me, he doesn't know how I

1:32:06.520 --> 1:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>am incomplete he sees me. I. That was from the

1:32:13.360 --> 1:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>trailer for the Shape of Water, which won the Oscar

1:32:17.120 --> 1:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>for Best Picture. I felt like I was obligated on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday to watch this movie. Plus MS Molly wanted to

1:32:25.960 --> 1:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>check it out, and I said, okay, fine, And I

1:32:28.320 --> 1:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>remember thinking to myself, how bad could it really be?

1:32:32.960 --> 1:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>It won the best Picture for the entire year. Oh boy,

1:32:39.160 --> 1:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I was wrong. It was even worse than I expected.

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<v Speaker 1>The Shape of Water is about a woman who has

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<v Speaker 1>a sexual relationship with an aquarium pet. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>going to get too far into a criticism of the

1:32:56.600 --> 1:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>movie being kind of slow, the dialogue being lackluster, and

1:33:01.320 --> 1:33:03.559
<v Speaker 1>all the rest of it, the whole thing being trite.

1:33:04.080 --> 1:33:08.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually more annoyed about the messaging in this film

1:33:09.200 --> 1:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and also the completely predictable lens that it looks at

1:33:15.400 --> 1:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>this situation that has created this this fantasy. But on

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<v Speaker 1>the the biggest charge what I just said that this

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<v Speaker 1>is about a woman who has a romantic relationship, has

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<v Speaker 1>a love affair with an aquarium pet. For those who

1:33:34.680 --> 1:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>would say, oh, Buck, that's not fair. I say, at

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<v Speaker 1>what point does it become clear? In this movie, which

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<v Speaker 1>is about essentially the creature from the Blue Lagoon or whatever,

1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>or the Deep Lagoon, whatever, that monster creature is gets

1:33:49.280 --> 1:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>captured by some government scientists and then the experiment on it.

1:33:53.960 --> 1:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>And this woman is cleaning up the room where they

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<v Speaker 1>keep the monster, not exactly the tightest secure early in

1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the world, and then she decides that she really likes

1:34:03.240 --> 1:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the sea monster, and they start getting kind of playful.

1:34:07.760 --> 1:34:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Then she brings it home, plops it in her bathtub,

1:34:11.160 --> 1:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>and proceeds to get amorous. I will say, and by

1:34:16.400 --> 1:34:19.599
<v Speaker 1>the way, you see a good bit of that in

1:34:19.640 --> 1:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>this movie that won the Academy Award for Best Picture. Now,

1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:27.559
<v Speaker 1>I've seen a couple of different methods of trying to

1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>explain this away. I think it is bizarro on many levels,

1:34:33.280 --> 1:34:37.679
<v Speaker 1>and and I think it is quite weird. Um, I'm

1:34:37.720 --> 1:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>not okay with the whole thing. But people say, Buck,

1:34:41.000 --> 1:34:44.439
<v Speaker 1>look at other fairy tales, even the great fairy tales

1:34:44.479 --> 1:34:47.320
<v Speaker 1>we were told as children, right, the princess who kisses

1:34:47.360 --> 1:34:51.519
<v Speaker 1>the frog. Yeah, but the frog turns into a human being.

1:34:51.680 --> 1:34:54.639
<v Speaker 1>That's the whole point. It's actually supposed to be a human.

1:34:54.960 --> 1:34:57.439
<v Speaker 1>People say, oh buck, what about Beauty and the beast.

1:34:57.479 --> 1:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like she's with some kind of a

1:35:01.080 --> 1:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>large wolf like creature. It's actually human who has a

1:35:05.200 --> 1:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>spell on him. All right, that's different. This sea monster

1:35:09.520 --> 1:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>that the woman in the shape the shape of water

1:35:13.960 --> 1:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>falls in love with, at no point becomes a human being,

1:35:18.680 --> 1:35:22.639
<v Speaker 1>is actually a human being, is even partially a human being.

1:35:23.240 --> 1:35:26.559
<v Speaker 1>It's a fish from what we can tell. And then

1:35:26.600 --> 1:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I know the response would be well backed. But it

1:35:29.439 --> 1:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>does sign language and it understands her, the protagonist, so well.

1:35:35.800 --> 1:35:39.919
<v Speaker 1>And to that, I would say, chimpanzees can do sign language,

1:35:40.040 --> 1:35:44.360
<v Speaker 1>in fact, can do it quite well. And yes, dogs

1:35:44.520 --> 1:35:49.240
<v Speaker 1>can understand emotion quite well. And while you know, I'm

1:35:49.400 --> 1:35:54.479
<v Speaker 1>quite fond of dogs, they are not human beings. And

1:35:54.680 --> 1:35:58.639
<v Speaker 1>I think that the messaging in this movie is lame

1:35:59.080 --> 1:36:02.559
<v Speaker 1>as well as a bit creepy. Never mind the fact

1:36:02.640 --> 1:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that who who's the bad guy? Oh, of course a

1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>they might as well have had him. He's this white,

1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>square jawed government guy. He might as well have had

1:36:12.840 --> 1:36:16.599
<v Speaker 1>a big maga hat on. For the entirety of the movie,

1:36:16.640 --> 1:36:18.919
<v Speaker 1>even though it takes place, I guess in the late fifties.

1:36:20.080 --> 1:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>But he's all about you know, the government and God

1:36:24.200 --> 1:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and America at and he's the worst. He is an unfeeling, sadistic,

1:36:31.120 --> 1:36:34.479
<v Speaker 1>terrible piece of trash. And everyone else in the movie

1:36:34.520 --> 1:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>that you might identify as being somewhat of a liberal,

1:36:37.600 --> 1:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>even the communist traitor, the guy who's a double agent

1:36:43.840 --> 1:36:48.720
<v Speaker 1>for the Soviets, right, he betrays his American colleagues. He's

1:36:48.760 --> 1:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>pretending to be someone he's not. Even he has some

1:36:54.160 --> 1:36:56.639
<v Speaker 1>salvation the movie because well, I don't want to give

1:36:56.680 --> 1:36:58.720
<v Speaker 1>it all away in case you want to watch it,

1:36:58.760 --> 1:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>but every one has redeeming characteristics and qualities except for

1:37:05.600 --> 1:37:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the white male Christian government you know FBI guy. Basically,

1:37:12.640 --> 1:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>this is what I always have to laugh about. The

1:37:14.160 --> 1:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>media hates white males and the FBI by and large,

1:37:18.040 --> 1:37:20.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, they really are against them for a whole

1:37:20.320 --> 1:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>bunch of reasons, except for any white males of the

1:37:23.800 --> 1:37:27.519
<v Speaker 1>FBI that are useful in bashing Trump or or who

1:37:27.600 --> 1:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>are trying to take the Trump presidency down. But but

1:37:31.040 --> 1:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the Shape of Water is just it was a really

1:37:34.360 --> 1:37:36.599
<v Speaker 1>bad movie. I mean, they should rename it the Shape

1:37:36.760 --> 1:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of Goose Turd, because that's what it was that at one.

1:37:40.439 --> 1:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Best picture is just more evidence of what I've been

1:37:43.760 --> 1:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>saying for some time, which is that the movie industry

1:37:47.280 --> 1:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>is in a really weak spot these days. TV is

1:37:50.720 --> 1:37:54.879
<v Speaker 1>doing well overall, and I think it's going to continue

1:37:54.880 --> 1:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>on this path. But the Shape of Water, it's just hollow.

1:38:01.040 --> 1:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing. It is unredeeming in in every way. Uh.

1:38:07.840 --> 1:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>And I just couldn't believe it that that this is

1:38:09.880 --> 1:38:12.240
<v Speaker 1>what This is not just a movie that I'm trashing, folks.

1:38:12.280 --> 1:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>This is supposed to be the collective wisdom of Hollywood

1:38:15.120 --> 1:38:18.639
<v Speaker 1>is what is the best movie of Like I said,

1:38:19.360 --> 1:38:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Big Goose, Turt, We'll be right back. I like to

1:38:38.479 --> 1:38:42.679
<v Speaker 1>think of myself as an innovator. Team there are times

1:38:42.680 --> 1:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>when I have to stop and give myself a little

1:38:45.320 --> 1:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>bit of credit for being a trendsetter or perhaps a

1:38:51.080 --> 1:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>pioneer of style, at least when it comes to food

1:38:56.880 --> 1:39:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and eating of meat. So I realized this because I

1:39:01.720 --> 1:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>made a ribby for Ms. Molly and I on Friday,

1:39:05.479 --> 1:39:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and I will tell you that it was seared perfectly

1:39:08.240 --> 1:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and it was amazing. The dollar cast iron pan that

1:39:13.240 --> 1:39:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I got myself was one of the better investments I

1:39:15.960 --> 1:39:21.240
<v Speaker 1>can remember making in recent years. But the next day,

1:39:21.400 --> 1:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, you know, what is one to

1:39:24.520 --> 1:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>do with leftover ribby? Oh, that's right, I'm going to

1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>make steak and eggs. That was also amazing, by the way,

1:39:34.479 --> 1:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>But then I thought to myself, what am I going

1:39:36.760 --> 1:39:40.479
<v Speaker 1>to do with some of that delicious thick cut bacon

1:39:40.520 --> 1:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that I have in my fridge that I specifically got

1:39:43.360 --> 1:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>so that I could cook it to absolute perfection on

1:39:46.120 --> 1:39:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Saturday and have a hashtag Buck brunch. Why is it

1:39:51.600 --> 1:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>just steaking eggs, my friends, when it could be steak

1:39:55.840 --> 1:40:02.479
<v Speaker 1>and eggs and bacon. Ah. Indeed, so I went with

1:40:02.520 --> 1:40:06.799
<v Speaker 1>all three the trifecta steak, eggs, and bacon for brunch

1:40:06.880 --> 1:40:10.280
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. And this is what everyone should do going forward.

1:40:10.479 --> 1:40:12.479
<v Speaker 1>There's no need to cut out the bacon just because

1:40:12.479 --> 1:40:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you're having the steak. Maybe just limit yourself to a

1:40:15.960 --> 1:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>pounder sew. And with that, I would like to get

1:40:20.200 --> 1:40:33.479
<v Speaker 1>into some roll call. Team Buck. It's time for roll call,

1:40:33.960 --> 1:40:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and remember, if you want to be a part of

1:40:40.439 --> 1:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>roll call, you can send us a message on Facebook

1:40:43.880 --> 1:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>at facebook dot com, slash Buck Sexton or official Team

1:40:48.120 --> 1:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Buck at gmail dot com. If you'd like to send

1:40:50.760 --> 1:40:54.559
<v Speaker 1>an email We are also thinking about setting up a

1:40:54.680 --> 1:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>special voicemail that we would be able to have recording

1:40:58.400 --> 1:41:01.559
<v Speaker 1>when we're not on air, and then those of you

1:41:01.600 --> 1:41:03.760
<v Speaker 1>who have a voice message you'd like to leave so

1:41:03.800 --> 1:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that the rest of the team can hear it, we

1:41:05.800 --> 1:41:08.559
<v Speaker 1>could do that. So if you couldn't listen live, for example,

1:41:08.600 --> 1:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>if you happen to be one of our wonderful podcast listeners,

1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>well then we very much could put your audio on

1:41:17.520 --> 1:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>air when we do our next live show. First up

1:41:21.240 --> 1:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>on roll Call is Roger. He writes, Buck just heard

1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the podcast uh from the Friday show about Bob Dylan

1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and gurgling with Gergen. It made me laugh out loud.

1:41:35.720 --> 1:41:39.479
<v Speaker 1>No easy task, shields Hie. Thank you very much. Roger

1:41:40.360 --> 1:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>with Gergan and Bob Dylan also make me laugh. Monica

1:41:45.320 --> 1:41:48.599
<v Speaker 1>next up here, she writes, Uh, this is the husband

1:41:48.600 --> 1:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of Monica and I ate these in Belfast. You asked

1:41:53.800 --> 1:42:00.880
<v Speaker 1>was their Irish ethnic food? Here it is Shepherd's pie. Okay,

1:42:01.080 --> 1:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that's I'll take it. Not exactly something that's gonna get

1:42:04.400 --> 1:42:07.559
<v Speaker 1>me too excited in the world of culinary excellence, but

1:42:07.640 --> 1:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Shepherd's pie is indeed. Is it Irish thrower? Is it English? Oh?

1:42:12.080 --> 1:42:13.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get the middle of that one.

1:42:14.080 --> 1:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's get to Erica, and she writes, I really listened

1:42:19.040 --> 1:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to Thursday's program to get the name of the Progressive

1:42:21.680 --> 1:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Hostility study. Since none of my Google searches found it,

1:42:25.800 --> 1:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I tried again to conduct the exact title and nothing.

1:42:29.520 --> 1:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Tried Duck duck go, and voila, there was the study. Well, Erica,

1:42:34.880 --> 1:42:36.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about this duck duck go, but maybe

1:42:36.640 --> 1:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>it's better for some thing than Google. I'll have to

1:42:39.120 --> 1:42:41.760
<v Speaker 1>check it out. But the piece that I mentioned was

1:42:41.800 --> 1:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>on quillette dot com and it was or I went

1:42:45.360 --> 1:42:47.559
<v Speaker 1>into some depth about it and just mentioned it, and

1:42:47.640 --> 1:42:54.439
<v Speaker 1>it was the Psychology of Progressive Hostility. Next up here,

1:42:54.800 --> 1:43:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Joey Annette, wow Buck, you're right, Sessions did fire me, Cabe.

1:43:01.600 --> 1:43:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Jeff is a little late to the party, but he

1:43:03.479 --> 1:43:06.720
<v Speaker 1>finally showed up with a haymaker. Now he'll just un

1:43:06.800 --> 1:43:10.519
<v Speaker 1>recuse himself and fire Muller and stop this stupid waste

1:43:10.520 --> 1:43:14.479
<v Speaker 1>of taxpayer money masquerading as an investigation. Shields high and

1:43:14.560 --> 1:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>keep up the good work. Well, Joey in Annette, I

1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:20.639
<v Speaker 1>will say that I not only called the firing on radio,

1:43:21.040 --> 1:43:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I also went out there on Outnumbered on Fox News

1:43:24.680 --> 1:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>on Friday and said, Hey, guess what, there's gonna be

1:43:28.040 --> 1:43:32.439
<v Speaker 1>a firing of McCabe And uh, I was correct, So

1:43:32.600 --> 1:43:35.879
<v Speaker 1>thank you for noting that I was in fact correct.

1:43:36.640 --> 1:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Next up here, hold on one second, is Philip, and

1:43:44.000 --> 1:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>he writes, Hey, man, I'm sure you've probably been told already,

1:43:48.280 --> 1:43:54.519
<v Speaker 1>but producer Mike was incorrect about the population of Russia. Yes, Philip, Uh,

1:43:54.600 --> 1:43:57.559
<v Speaker 1>I was in fact basically correct. I said a hundred

1:43:57.560 --> 1:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and twenty million. The population of Russia's actually a hundred

1:44:00.760 --> 1:44:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and forty million. Producer Mike on Friday told me it

1:44:03.720 --> 1:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>was seventy million based on a quick Google search. Do

1:44:07.160 --> 1:44:12.240
<v Speaker 1>not worry. We will shortly assign him a code read Dick.

1:44:14.240 --> 1:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Once again, this goes to my theory that even when

1:44:16.720 --> 1:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I might be wrong, I'm usually right. Uh

1:44:20.760 --> 1:44:25.280
<v Speaker 1>let's see, Dale, He writes, really enjoyed your sidebar the

1:44:25.320 --> 1:44:28.599
<v Speaker 1>other evening about missed a game series near and dear

1:44:28.680 --> 1:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to my heart, So Buck, which brother did you pick

1:44:31.840 --> 1:44:35.439
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the original game, Dale, I cannot

1:44:35.439 --> 1:44:37.639
<v Speaker 1>tell a lie. I didn't get that far and missed

1:44:37.680 --> 1:44:39.360
<v Speaker 1>because I was really young when I was playing it,

1:44:39.439 --> 1:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and some of those puzzles may have stumped me, but

1:44:43.439 --> 1:44:46.320
<v Speaker 1>miss was. I remember going into computer stores in the

1:44:46.360 --> 1:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>early days of home PCs, or it is of PCs

1:44:52.120 --> 1:44:55.760
<v Speaker 1>home PC would be repetitive, and there were missed. There

1:44:55.800 --> 1:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>were copies of missed everywhere. I also remember really not

1:44:59.040 --> 1:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>liking Mac computer uters for a while because all of

1:45:01.720 --> 1:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the video games were for PC windows, and if you

1:45:06.240 --> 1:45:10.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted good games, Mac was not the choice for you.

1:45:10.880 --> 1:45:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And then later on people pretty much stopped using their

1:45:14.840 --> 1:45:17.599
<v Speaker 1>computers for games. I feel like, in general at all

1:45:17.640 --> 1:45:21.120
<v Speaker 1>went to PlayStations and these other consoles with the big

1:45:21.120 --> 1:45:24.760
<v Speaker 1>flat screen TVs. But I did not get very far

1:45:24.960 --> 1:45:28.360
<v Speaker 1>in missed. I must be honest with you. Now, we've

1:45:28.360 --> 1:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>got Pablo who writes listening to your show recently, and

1:45:32.640 --> 1:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about visiting Vietnam. We're heading there a

1:45:36.080 --> 1:45:39.639
<v Speaker 1>week from Monday and are super pumped. We're doing Hannoy

1:45:39.800 --> 1:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>for a few days in a Cinnamon Cathedral UH hotel

1:45:43.760 --> 1:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and then onto how Long Bay for a few nights.

1:45:46.800 --> 1:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>We're disappointed to miss h some of the stuff, but

1:45:49.880 --> 1:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>pumping nonetheless. A Pablo, I think you're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>great time. I love the food. I think it's I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's a really interesting place and very very

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<v Speaker 1>different from other cultures and other countries around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But have a great time and let us know what

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<v Speaker 1>you think. And for those of you who asked what

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<v Speaker 1>cuisine I'd recommend to start with, I mentioned Foe, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the most famous, which you usually spelled p h o,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sliced beef in a kind of soup slash

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<v Speaker 1>noodle stew. But the other thing that I really love

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<v Speaker 1>is a rice pancake called a band saw, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you can get that, I would say that's a very

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<v Speaker 1>good place to start. And Boon Cha, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>noodle dish, is also really excellent. By the way, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons I like this food so much, Vietnamese

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<v Speaker 1>food is that it doesn't use that much soy sauce,

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<v Speaker 1>so as a ciliac, I can eat most things on

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<v Speaker 1>the menu. It uses mostly rice instead of flower noodles,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's just for full disclosure. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>only cuisines that is a an ethnic cuisine that is

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<v Speaker 1>really easy for people who are gluten intolerant to enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>William is up next to here, He writes, quit crying

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<v Speaker 1>about being old. I started Tae Kwondo at forty four,

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<v Speaker 1>after twenty years of army service and over a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>days in Iraq, and five kids. The five kids are

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<v Speaker 1>much more challenging than convoy security. William, You're right, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I uh, I shouldn't be given any I shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>complained at all. I don't know how all you folks

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<v Speaker 1>out there who are parents, I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Uh. Kimberly is next up here, she writes, Buck,

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<v Speaker 1>I love your show, O S S Team Buck, North Carolina. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, Kimberly, I appreciate it. Next one

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<v Speaker 1>here in roll Call is Christie. She writes, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's at least one movie in which Colin Farrell does

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<v Speaker 1>not suck. He plays a hit man alongside a fellow

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant actor in uh In in Bruges. Interesting film and

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful scenery. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy St. Patrick's Day, and yeah us you're allowed to say,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all we don't mind, Christie, O S S. Member, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, Christie. Hope y'all have a great

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Patrick's two down in Uh? Where were you? OSS member?

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<v Speaker 1>From where? I'm not clear she was from the South,

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<v Speaker 1>between which we know Christie. I haven't seen in Bruges,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have heard good things, so maybe I'll add

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<v Speaker 1>that to my now very rapidly expanding list of shows

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<v Speaker 1>that I must check out. So um, with that team,

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to close up shop here in the

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Hunt for the day. Thank you always for being

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<v Speaker 1>with me. Please uh spread the word about what we

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<v Speaker 1>do here and see you tomorrow shield Hie